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Thousand Oaks Planning Commission Meeting 3/14/22
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E
Just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
our
planning
managers,
kari,
finley
and
steve
kearns.
They
both
served
admirably
as
acting
deputy
directors
in
a
department
and
also
serving
as
chair
for
the
planning
commission
over
the
course
of
the
last
year
and
a
half.
They
did
a
fantastic
job
with
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
them,
as
I
take
a
moment
to
introduce
our
new
deputy
director
of
the
department.
Mr
john
dugan.
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Most
recently
he
comes
to
us
from
monterey
county
where
he
was
the
deputy
director
of
the
resource
management
agency.
There
john
has
been
accepted
into
the
really
the
hall
of
fame
of
planning
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f-a-I-c-p,
which
is
given
to
long-term
career
professionals
that
have
served
admirably
in
the
profession.
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We're
really
excited
to
have
john
here
and
we're
looking
forward
to
him
serving
the
community
in
the
commission
in
his
spare
time.
He
still
teaches
at
the
university
of
texas
in
their
graduate
program,
he's
also
taught
graduate
studies
in
planning
at
fresno
state
university
and
also
cal
state
northridge.
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Should
the
commission
wish
to
discuss
an
issue
raised
by
a
member
of
the
public?
The
issue
will
be
referred
to
staff
for
scheduling
on
a
future
agenda.
Anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
under
public
comments
must
complete
a
speaker
card
and
file
it
with
the
recording
secretary
before
public
comments.
Portion
of
the
agenda
is
called.
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2019-704-83
proposal
for
the
canejo
canyons
bridge
project,
construction
of
a
12-foot,
wide
140-foot,
long,
steel,
truss
bridge
across
canajo,
creek
and
hill
canyon,
with
an
accompanying
375-foot
access
road
and
the
removal
of
one
native
coast
live
oak
tree
and
seven
non-native.
Southern
live
oak
trees,
a
mitigated,
negative
declaration.
Mnd
has
been
prepared
for
the
project
for
conformance
with
the
california
environmental
quality
act.
Sequa.
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Good
evening,
chair
newman
and
members
of
the
commission,
my
name
is
jessica
magana
and
I
will
be
presenting
this
item
for
you
tonight.
The
item
before
you
is
what
we
refer
to
as
the
conejo
canyon
spring
bridge
project.
This
item
includes
a
development
permit
2019,
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protective
tree,
permit
2019
and
mitigated
negative
declaration.
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the
project
location
is
approximately
330
feet.
Northwest
of
the
treatment
ponds
at
the
hill
canyon
treatment
plant.
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This
also,
this
request
also
includes
a
protected
tree
permit
for
the
removal
of
one
coast
live
oak
tree
and
seven.
Southern
live
oak
trees
and
encroachment
within
the
protected
zones
of
three
southern
live
oak
trees
and
one
scrub
oak.
A
mitigated.
Negative
declaration
has
been
prepared
for
the
project
for
conformance
with
the
california
environmental
quality
act.
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The
project
site
is
located
on
a
495
acre
parcel,
but
the
project
site
itself
is
up
0.61
acres
in
size.
The
site
is
designated
as
existing
parks.
Golf
courses
open
space
in
the
city's
general
planned
land
use
map
and
zoned
open
space,
which
allows
for
the
construction
of
recreational
structures
and
improvements
such
as
bridges.
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To
give
you
a
little
bit
more
context
on
the
site,
I've
included
various
images
from
in
the
next
few
slides.
Here
we
have
a
recent
image.
Looking
west
onto
the
project
site,
the
approximate
location
of
the
site
is
labeled
in
red
in
the
middle
of
the
screen,
which
will
be
the
location,
approximate
location
of
the
proposed
access,
road
and
bridge
the
the
city's
hill
canyon
treatment.
Plant
ponds
are
located
just
east
of
the
site,
the
city's
and
in
the
foreground,
you'll
see
you'll,
see
the
hill
canyon
road
in
the
distance.
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Here
we
have
additional
images
as
if
you
were
standing
at
the
project
site
on
the
left.
We
have
the
same
perspective
from
the
previous
image
looking
west
across
the
creek.
You
can
see
the
fire
road
trail
in
the
distance
there
that
I
noted
previously
on
the
right.
We
have
an
image
from
the
same
location,
but
looking
in
the
opposite
direction.
Looking
east,
you
can
see
the
row
of
non-native
oak
trees
in
the
distance
that
are
adjacent
to
hill
canyon,
road.
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The
large
I
do
want
to
point
out.
The
larger
tree
on
the
left
is
a
cottonwood
that
will
actually
be
protected
in
place
again.
Both
of
these
photos
were
taken
at
the
approximate
location
where
the
access
road
will
be
located
and,
as
you
can
see,
this
area
is
relatively
flat,
with
scattered
vegetation,
a
major
reason
why
this
site
was
chosen
as
a
good
location
for
the
proposed
project.
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Here
we
have
a
few
photos
deeper
into
the
channel
channel
looking
west,
showing
typical
conditions
along
the
riparian
area.
On
the
on
the
right,
you
can
see
sorry
on
the
left.
You
can
see
the
fire
road
in
the
distance
and
on
the
left
on
the
right
image.
Sorry,
you
can
see
just
behind
that
palm
tree.
We
have
a
closer
image
of
the
one
coast
live
oak
that
is
proposed
for
removal.
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Here
we
have
another
aerial
image
of
the
site.
This
one
shows
access
into
this
area
into
the
hill
canyon
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
have
access
provided
by
three
non-connecting
routes.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
vehicular
access
to
this
area
is
primarily
provided
through
santa
rosa
road
by
entering
directly
through
hill
canyon,
road,
which
extends
into
the
canyon
from
the
north
and
provides
access
only
to
the
areas
east
and
north
sides
of
the
channel,
and
that
road
is
labeled
in
blue.
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So
a
few
goals
for
the
project
include
to
provide
trail
users
such
as
hikers,
mountain
bikers
and
equestrians,
safe
access
between
wildwood
park
and
conejo
canyon
by
allowing
them
to
maintain
remain
on
the
existing
trail
network.
Rather
than
utilizing
the
hill
canyon
road,
which
again
was
not
designated
to
accommodate
such
trail
users,
the
bridge
would
would
allow
trial
users
to
cross
hill
canyon
road
at
a
single
point,
with
adequate
visibility
in
both
directions.
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So
creating
a
single
point
of
access
for
trail
users
on
the
service
road
is
far
safer
than
the
current
option.
That
puts
pedestrians
and
cyclists
where
they
travel
approximately
one
mile
up
the
service
road
intended
again
only
for
service
vehicles
and
trucks
associated
with
hill
canyon
treatment
plant.
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As
you
can
see
on
this
screen,
there
is
in
the
lime,
green
there's,
coyote,
brush
scrub
in
an
active
floodplain
area
adjacent
to
the
site.
The
location
of
the
bridge
would
sit
at
a
higher
elevation
and
away
from
the
coyote
brush
scrub.
Above
the
100
floodplain
zone,
the
bridge
location
was
determined
through
constraint
through
a
constraints
analysis
more
than
a
comparative
approach.
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Here
we
have
an
elevation
of
the
bridge.
The
bridge
will
be
a
steel
truss
bridge
again
approximately
140
feet
in
length
and
will
be
single
span.
Design
between
two
supports.
The
bridge
itself
will
be
composed
of
pre-weathered
steel.
With
a
concrete
deck,
the
bridge
will
be
manufactured
off-site
and
installed
using
a
crane
to
lower
it
in
place.
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Existing
roads
will
be
used
during
construction
activities,
including
rancho
conejo,
boulevard
and
hill
canyon.
Road
construction
will
and
is
anticipated
to
commence
in
the
fall
of
2020
and
take
approximately
180
days
to
complete
equipment
that
will
be
used
for
the
construction
of
the
bridge
will
include
loaders
dozers
drilling
rigs
and
cranes.
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F
Here
we
have
a
figure
demonstrating
the
project
area
with
the
tree
locations
that
will
with
the
trees
that
will
be
affected
by
the
proposed
construction
activity.
Again,
eight
proposed
trees
will
be
removed
and
those
are
identified
in
the
red
circles
and
four
trees
identified
as
yellow
circles
are
the
ones
that
will
have
encroachment
within
their
protected
zones.
F
The
location
of
these
trees
will
be
installed.
On-Site
will
be
determined
by
a
qualified
restoration,
specialist
location
and
details
of
the
off-site
planting
areas
will
be
provided
in
the
restoration
plan
described
in
the
mitigation
measures.
Conditions
have
been
applied
to
minimize
the
impacts
from
as
many
protected
trees
on
site,
where
feasible,
with
the
inclusion
of
conditions.
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F
F
Based
on
the
analysis
and
findings
and
constraints
in
this
report,
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
development
permit
the
protected
tree
permit
and
adoption
of
the
mitigated
negative
declaration
and
mitigated
monitoring
and
reporting
program
in
accordance
with
the
california
environmental
quality
act.
Based
on
the
findings
and
subject
to
the
suggested
conditions
contained
in
the
detached
resolution.
F
B
G
I
understand
that
this
is
a
joint
project
between
lots
of
different
agencies
and
I'm
looking
over
my
notes
here
between.
Obviously
the
department
of
public
works,
there's
costco,
there's
crpd
and
the
caneo
open
space
foundation
have
all
of
those.
Other
agencies
approve
this
process
to
the
point
where
this
approval
then
would
be
able
to
go
forward,
or
is
there
still
additional
approvals
from
those
agencies
that
would
be
necessary.
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G
Good
in
terms
of
the
purpose,
I
understand
the
concept
is
to
connect
the
trails
provide
for
emergency
access.
As
to
the
trail
issue,
are
we
doing
anything
on
the
other
side
of
the
trail?
To
then
make
sure
that
people
that
are
crossing
the
bridge
and
the
road
know
to
continue
on
with
that
trail
and
not
walk
up
the
service
road,
which
was
the
point.
G
No,
that
makes
sense.
I
was
on
that
road
and
it
was
not
wide
enough
for
more
than
a
car,
notwithstanding
even
the
attempt
by
the
the
mirror
to
kind
of
create
some
vision.
There
was,
I
know
some
discussion,
the
community
about.
Does
this
help
alleviate
any
parking
issues
either
at
wildwood
or
at
the
other
location
down
the
street?
It
doesn't
seem
like
that
to
me,
but
I
wanted
to
see
your
input.
H
G
H
Potentially,
I
think
it
may
depend
on
where
somebody
is
coming
from.
Certainly
if
they're
coming
from
the
north
to
visit
us,
the
hill
canyon
location
would
be
much
more
convenient
as
opposed
to
driving
down
the
101
further
and
then
coming
into
town,
traveling,
up
lynn
and
then
turning
west
on
arbel
is
to
park
at
that
lot.
G
G
H
They
will
be
24-inch
box
trees
and
we're
still
determining
the
exact
breakdown
because
they
won't
all
fit
on
either
side
of
the
new
access
row.
There
just
simply
isn't
enough
space,
so
we're
going
to
look
a
little
bit
more
closely
at
how
many
will
actually
bit
on
site
and
then
the
balance
of
them
will
actually
be
planted,
probably
about
a
third
of
a
mile
downstream
between
the
stream
and
the
access
road.
I
I
H
The
single
span
and
then
hoist
it
into
place,
that's
actually
how
our
initial
bridge
was
constructed.
The
initial
bridge
was
delivered
to
the
site
in
two
pieces.
I
bolted
together
in
that
little
existing
parking
lot
and
then
hoisted
into
place
with
a
tremendously
large
crane.
It
was
kind
of
pretty
amazing
to
see
that.
I
H
H
Probably
happen
concurrently
with
habitat
restoration,
we
are
required
to
get
permits
from
the
california
department
of
fish
and
wildlife,
which
is
a
regulatory
agency
that
has
jurisdiction
over
that
channel
and
so
for
the
impacts
to
habitat
that
the
bridge
footings
will
cause
we're
required
to
do
some
compensatory
mitigation
for
that
loss
in
habitat.
So
when
that
planting
takes
place,
I
think
that
we'll
do
the
trees.
At
the
same
time,.
B
J
Yes,
I
hiked
down
there
from
the
the
rancho
canal
road
and
I
was
lucky
enough
to
have
a
city
staff
member
to
take
me
there
and
she
talked
about,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
I
understood
this
correctly,
that
the
picture
you
saw
with
the
the
stream
where
the
where
the
bridge
is
going
on.
The
other
side
from
where
I
stood
was
the
treatment
plant
and
she
said.
J
K
K
However,
the
current
crossing
is,
you
know,
substandard,
as
you
can
tell,
and
it's
subject
to
seasonal
conditions,
and
so
it's
more
like
twice
a
quarter,
maybe
or
twice
every
six
months
or
something
so
certainly
not
twice
a
day
that
in
the
future,
that
would
be
the
idea
that
this
bridge
would
facilitate
what
is
currently
a
you
know.
A
30
minute
drive
into
a
five-minute
drive.
K
D
Thank
you,
sir
newman,
mr
stark,
I
I
apologize,
I
don't
know
who
you
are
and
if
you
are
here,
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
okay,
nice
to
meet
you.
I
appreciated
the
the
response
to
my
questions
that
I
had
over
the
weekend
with
respect
to
the
the
analysis
that
was
performed
as
part
of
the
report
I
had
expressed
some
consternation,
I
think
about
how
it
seems
we
have
one
alternative
for
the
alignment
here,
as
opposed
to
this
being
an
alternative
analysis
type
situation.
D
So
I
I'm
wondering
how
come
maybe
is
the
question
we
didn't
look
at
this
with
maybe
an
eye
for
reducing
the
amount
of
fill
as
part
of
the
project.
3000
cubic
yards
is
not
a
small
amount
of
earth
that
needs
to
be
trucked
in
here.
I
could
take
a
guess,
but
I
would
say,
there's
probably
200
truckloads.
D
D
But
wouldn't
it
be
also
possible
to
extend
the
terminus
of
that
trail
to
actually
meet
up
with
the
alternate
location
I
mean.
Imagine
that's
mostly
flat
out
there.
It
appears
mostly
flat
out
there,
so
I
mean.
Potentially
there
are
other
ways
of
I
would
say
mitigating,
but
certainly
avoiding
the
you
know.
D
The
established
grove
that's
been
placed
intentionally
at
that
location
rather
than
just
sort
of
plowing
through
it,
as
as
shown
that
if
the
alignment
or
a
an
alternative
alignment
were
considered
that
maybe
some
of
the
impacts
might
have
been
minimized,
and
I
get
that
we
are.
This
is
a
mitigated
negative
declaration.
So
we
are
mitigating
these
impacts
by
planting
trees
elsewhere,
but
maybe
to
start
with
that
wouldn't
have
been
have
been
an
issue.
L
Well,
ideally,
our
impacts
on
the
ground,
the
decision,
the
location
decision,
part
of
that
was
trying
not
to
create
more
trails
and
more
roads
trails
also
have
environmental
impacts.
So
we,
while
it's
probably
physically
possible
to
move
a
trail
it
it
adds
that
extra
impact,
the
trees
that
are
there
is
non-native
trees.
L
D
L
It's
a
complicated
project
with
lots
of
different
goals
and
related
parts,
so
we
have
multiple
constraints
such
as
the
existing.
You
know,
location
of
the
existing
trail
locations,
the
existing
road
locations
we
have
topographic
constraints
and
jurisdictional
constraints,
as
well
with
in
moving
to
some
other
areas,
would
require,
would
get
us
into
federal
jurisdictions
that
we'd,
just
as
soon
avoid.
L
We
have
sight
line
constraints
as
well
for
safe
passage
of
the
road
and
we'll
be
in
an
area
where
the
riparian
corridor
is
the
narrowest.
As
we
start
moving
down
downstream,
we
we
start
getting
into
an
area
where
the
riparian
core
we'd
be
going
to
a
wider
riparian
corridor,
and
we
might
face
more
jurisdictional
issues.
D
D
B
B
B
K
So
we
had
to
select
a
project
to
present
tonight
and
we
believe
this
is
the
one
those
those
southern
oaks
were
planted
not
very
long
ago
and
they're
not
native
trees
anyway.
So
that
was
also
part
of
the
consideration
for
those
and
with
the
overriding
factors.
Also,
there
is
the
anticipation
that
this
project
will
get
constructed.
K
There's
the
community
is
desiring
of
the
project
and
there's
a
kind
of
a
narrow
window
of
time
to
be
able
to
proceed
with
the
project,
given
the
bird
nesting
season
and
many
of
the
other
factors
that
are
constraints.
So
what
is
before,
you,
we
believe,
is
the
as
the
recommended
project
to
proceed
with.
B
G
D
In
essence,
it
would
just
be
angling,
the
eastern
abutments,
so
that
the
alignment
of
the
bridge
would
the
western
edge
would
move
more
southerly.
Okay,
the
eastern
above,
would
move
northerly,
and
then
you
could
swing
the
road
out
further
to
the
north.
I
mean
again,
I
do
do
this
for
a
living,
so
I'm
just
sort
of
trying
to
picture
this
in
my
head
and
look
at
the
the
topographical
map
and
and
see
what
maybe
they're
whether
it's
possible-
and
it
looks
to
me
like
the
geographic
features-
are
fairly
similar.
D
In
that
case
I
mean
we
are
yeah,
obviously
we're
further
down
the
line
on
this.
The
plans
were
completed
in
2019,
so
this
has
been
sort
of
a
done
deal
sitting
on
the
shelf
for
a
little
while.
So
let
me
just
have
to
approve
the
projects
in
front
of
us.
I
mean
again,
I'm
not
going
to
design
from
the
dais,
but
if
to
me
a
project
of
this
magnitude,
I
would
have
preferred
to
have
seen
various
alternatives.
D
G
G
M
In
melissa
whittamore
with
my
consultants,
we
prepared
the
ism
d
for
the
agency
on
this.
With
regard
to
the
the
trees,
the
oak
trees,
the
was
it
hill
fire,
I
believe
in
2018.
Yes,
hill
fire
ran
through
that
area,
damaging
many
of
the
trees.
Now
most
of
them
are
going
to
continue
to
grow,
but
with
the
mitigation
involved
in
this
project
we
will
be
or
the
the
city
will
be
planting
brand
new
trees
and
there's
typically
a
five
to
seven
year.
M
M
So
that
is
a
potential
benefit
for
the
project
and
the
city
as
a
whole.
Not
only
will
you
be
retreat,
replacing
existing,
not
quite
healthy
trees
with
new
trees,
you're
also
doing
it
at
a
four
to
one
ratio
and
then
with
regard
to
alternatives
under
sequa,
because
there
were
no
potentially
significant
impacts.
No
and
no
public
controversy
controversy
on
this
project.
M
It
was
not
required
to
do
an
eir
and
mitigation
or
sorry.
Alternatives
are
only
required
for
eirs
and,
as
jessica
mentioned
in
the
beginning,
they
did
choose
the
section
of
that
creek.
That
would
impact
the
least
amount
of
jurisdictional
areas
which
was
important
because
mitigating
for
impacts
to
jurisdictional
areas
can
get
really
costly.
I
All
right,
I
I
just
I
just
want
to
know
what
everybody's
dog
in
the
fight
is
then,
since
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
discussion
that
sequa
doesn't
require
multiple
options
on
this.
What
are
the
benefits
for
each
of
your
agencies?
My
understanding
is
public
works
just
saves
their
the
gasoline
required
for
the
trips
for
their
for
their
workers.
H
Also,
by
having
this
better
connectivity,
our
rangers
can
access
that
area
much
more
efficiently
because
they
too
it
to
access
this
area
either
need
to
take
the
101
and
exit
at
santa
rosa
road
and
travel
east
or
take
more
park.
Road
north
go
down
norwegian
grade
and
then
travel
south
on
santa
rosa
road.
So
it
is
given
the
area's
location
it's
difficult
to
get
to
efficiently,
so
this
will
be
beneficial
for
our
staff
as
well,
and
then,
additionally,
we,
a
nice
added
benefit
in
addition
to
public
safety.
H
Is
we
allow
or
provide
our
open
space
visitors
with
a
nicer
open
space
experience
because
they
don't
need
to
be
on
that
asphalt,
road
and,
as
we've
chatted
about
previously,
that
road
was
not
designed
to
accommodate
equestrians
mountain
bikers
or
anybody
on
foot?
So
really,
we
believe
it's
very
important
to
get
folks
our
visitors
off
that
road.
L
I
would
just
add
that
this
bridge
is,
is
a
linkage
between
two
substantially
large
open
space
areas.
We
have
the
entire
wildwood
open
space
area
on
one
side
and
we
have
the
canejo
canyons
on
the
other,
being
able
to
link
these
two
with
a
safe
trail.
Access
provides
our
citizens
with
access
to
almost
5
000
acres
of
open
space
that
is
all
integrated,
so
it
checks
off
a
big
box
in
terms
of
koska's.
L
B
G
Thank
you
chair.
I
live
in
the
dos
vientos
area
near
sycamore,
canyon
and
there's
lots
of
trails
and
people
make
up
their
own
trails
and
I
have
to
say
probably
once
a
week
I
hear
helicopters
around
from
people
trying
to
be
saved
because
they
went
off
trails,
so
I
I
appreciate
the
desire
and
the
focus
of
trying
to
create
a
safe
trail
to
connect
the
parks.
G
It's
it's
very
frustrating
when
I
hear
the
helicopters-
and
I
know
there's
somebody
else
who
decided
to
make
up
their
own
trail
and
and
I'd
like
to
not
have
that
happen.
So
this
is
a
great
way
to
connect
that
process.
I
like
the
fact
that
it's
a
joint
process
between
all
of
our
different
agencies-
I
think
that's
fantastic.
G
G
G
B
G
G
I
I'll
follow
and
concur
with
mr
lanson.
I've
been
hiking
out
in
that
area.
I
think
the
first
time
I
made
it
down
to
the
hill
canyon
area
was
probably
1989,
so
I've
been
hiking
that
neck
of
the
woods
for
a
long
time,
and
I
now
have
young
children
and
I
concur
that
walking
them
along
a
a
paved
road
is
not
necessarily
the
most
ideal
way
for
them
to
experience
open
space.
So
I
am
very
enthusiastic
about
the
construction
of
this
and
how
it
connects
our
trails,
and
so
with
that
I
will
move
along.
J
D
I
certainly
don't
disavow
the
need
and
the
the
purpose
of
this
project.
I
certainly
think
that
it's
going
to
make
life
better
for
a
lot
of
people,
the
hikers,
the
maintenance
staff.
I
can
tell
you
the
number
of
times
that
I
have
seen
a
city
of
thousand
oaks
vehicle
head
north
on
the
23
for
no
particular
reason
other
than
to
get
off
a
tier
rajata
to
drive
to
hill
canyon.
So
I've
seen
it
with
my
own
eyes.
D
That
said,
do
I
think
maybe
the
road
alignment
could
have
been
done
differently
and
perhaps
better
yes,
that
said,
I
can
still
support
the
project.
I
think
that,
maybe
you
know-
and
again
I
don't
want
to
minimize
the
the
work
that
has
been
done
thus
far,
but
you
know
the
the
point.
A
to
point
b
may
not
always
be
the
best
route,
in
my
personal
opinion.
So
but
I
mean
again
I
can.
D
B
B
B
B
B
A
B
C
A
G
Thank
you
chair,
mr
duke.
I
just
want
to
say,
welcome
and
we'll
try
to
be
nice
and
and
and
do
everything
we
can
to
help
you
out
and
mr
kearns
congratulations.
You've
now
get
rid
of
us
and
you
don't
have
to
no
I'm
kidding,
but
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
all
you've
done
in
terms
of
being
part
of
this
process
during
this
this
difficult
time
and
you've
done
a
fantastic
job.
My
only
question
was:
where
is
the
general
plan
update
and
vis-a-vis
our
involvement.
A
B
Very
good,
thank
you.
I
too
want
to
add
my
thanks
to
mr
kearns
and
to
miss
finley
who's,
not
here
tonight
very
much
appreciate
the
yeoman's
work.
You've
both
done
over
the
over
the
difficult
pandemic
period.
So
thank
you
all
right.
Moving
on
to
staff
update,
I
think
we
go
back
to
mr
kearns
for
this.
Are
there
any
follow-up
items,
announcements
and
upcoming
issues.