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Item
number
four
written
comments:
announcements:
supplemental
packets,
continuances;
do
we
have
any
written
comments,
announcements
or
continuances
at
this
time.
A
Thank
you
public
comments.
Okay,
I
have
two
for
seven
eighths
and
nothing
for
now.
Should
I
still
read
that,
and
now
is
the
time
for
public
comment
at
this
time,
any
person
may
address
the
commission
regarding
a
city
planning
matter.
That
is
not
on
this
evening's
agenda.
Should
the
commission
wish
to
discuss
an
issue
raised
by
a
member
of
the
public?
The
issue
will
be
referred
to
staff
for
scheduling
on
a
future
agenda.
A
Anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
under
public
comments
must
complete
a
speaker
card
and
file
it
with
the
recording
secretary
before
public
comments.
Portion
of
the
agenda
is
called.
The
speaker's
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
commission
as
a
whole
and
not
to
an
individual
commissioner
or
staff
member.
A
A
That's
I'm,
commissioner
lansin.
Oh.
E
A
And
just
as
a
matter
of
did
any
of
my
commissioners
actually
push
the
motion
button
because
that
didn't
come
up
either.
So
we
may
be
having
some
problems
with
my
computer.
A
I
did
yeah
so
okay.
Well,
we
we
can.
We
can
do
this
anyways.
Would
the
clerk
please
open
the
public
hearing.
C
C
F
Thank
you,
chair
members
of
the
planning
commission,
members
of
the
public.
The
project
before
you
tonight
is
for
pre-zone
and
annexation
of
two
parcels
located
within
the
ventu
park
area
of
the
city.
Here
you
can
actually
see
these
are
the
parcels
in
question.
One
fronts
directly
onto
the
eastern
parcel
fronts
directly
onto
ventu
park,
road
and
the
western
parcel
fronts
onto
edwards
road,
which
is
a
private
road.
F
So
in
this
case
there
are
it's
two
completely
separate
parcels
that
were
just
submitted
as
one
application.
So
that's
why?
What's
coming
before
you
for
two
different
properties?
F
With
the
city
limits
now
the
annexations
they're
finalized
by
the
ventura
county,
local
agency
formation
commission,
however,
the
city
we
have
to
go
through
the
review
process
and
approve
them
and
then
also
forward
a
recommendation
for
the
annexation
request
to
the
ventura
county
lafco
a
little
bit
of
history
on
lafco,
since
it's
more
of
like
a
agency,
we
don't
really
hear
about
it-
was
actually
created
in
1969
by
the
state.
It's
an
independent
agency
that
controls
boundaries
of
cities
and
other
special
districts.
F
So
things
like
a
cemetery
district,
a
water
district,
so
they
control
those
boundaries
and
it's
really
in
order
to
help
encourage
it's
the
orderly
formation
and
expansion
of
cities.
So
if
you
want
to
create
a
brand
new
city,
you
have
to
go
through
lafco.
If
the
city
wants
to
annex
they
have
to
go
through
lafco,
and
a
lot
of
this
was
in
order
to
in
order
to
encourage
the
preservation
of
agricultural
resources
and
limit
the
extent
of
sprawl.
F
F
F
Additionally,
on
the
existing
conditions
under
the
venture
county's
jurisdiction,
the
two
parcels:
they
actually
have
a
rural
agricultural
zoning
designation,
which
it
does
allow
for
a
single
family
residential
as
la
as
well
as
some
limited
agricultural
uses
for
those.
So
when
the
city
is
annexing
in
those
particular
properties,
we
actually
have
to
pre-zone
them
with
the
closest
compatible
zone.
F
Now,
even
those
thousand
oaks
we
do
have
in
a
rural
agricultural
zone,
which
is
almost
on
par
with
the
county
jurisdiction,
the
parcels
themselves,
they
actually
do
not
have.
They
do
not
meet
the
minimum
lot
size
requirements
for
the
city's
world
rural
agricultural
zone,
which
is
set
at
a
minimum
of
one
acre.
F
So
with
that
in
mind,
and
not
wanting
to
create
a
legal
non-conforming
lot
with
regarding
the
zoning
designation
staff,
then
took
a
look
at
the
other
zoning
designations
within
that
the
city
has
the
next
closest
available
one
that
would
fit
the
purposes
for
the
intended
purposes.
For
these
lots
would
actually
be
the
city's
residential
plan
development
or
the
rpd
zone
district.
F
That
zoning
is
still
compatible
with
the
county's
rural
agricultural
zone,
because
it
still
allows
for
these
single-family
developments
within
the
existing
area.
Also,
the
subject
parcels
they
do
meet
the
minimum
lot
size
requirements,
that's
set
by
the
rpd
zone,
which
is
5500
square
feet
also
both
of
these
parcels.
They
are
located
directly
adjacent
to
existing
rpd
neighborhoods
that
are
within
the
city,
so
we're
not
actually
doing
any
type
of
a
spot
zone
by
going
through
and
doing
the
rpd
designation.
F
Now
that
we've
staff
kind
of
established
the
the
base
zone,
we
actually
then
have
to
look
at
what
type
of
subzone
would
be
accurate
for
for
these
parcels.
They
are
sub
zones.
They
are
required
in
order
to
establish
the
the
density
that
could
be
allowed
within
these
particular
areas.
F
Right
now,
the
proposed
subzone
is
4.5
units
per
acre
or
4.5
view,
and
this
is
so
that
it
actually
complies
with
the
general
plan.
Land
use,
designation,
the
low
density
residential
allows
for
2
to
four
point.
Five
units
per
acre
of
note
for
the
both
of
these
lots.
They're
actually
emphasized
that,
even
if
we
apply
the
4.5
units
per
acre,
it
will
only
allow
for
us
one
single-family
residence
on
there.
So
we're
not
going
to
get
an
apartment,
building
or
anything
else.
It's
just
going
to
be
a
regular
single
family
home.
F
Additionally,
thousand
oaks
is
primarily
a
full-service
city
as
well
so
based
on
all
of
these
other
facts,
the
annexation
and
the
pre-zone.
They
actually
meet
the
intent
of
the
lafco
guidelines,
the
project
tonight
it
is
exempt
from
the
provisions
of
sequa
under
section
15319,
because
it's
for
the
annexation
of
two
small
parcels
and
their
intended
future
use
can
also
be
is
also
exempt
from
the
provisions
of
sequa.
In
this
particular
case,
a
single-family
home
is
exempt
from
sequa
used
under
section
15,
303,
and
so
that's
all
contain.
F
So
then,
staff
made
the
determination
that
the
pre-zoning
and
the
annexations
they
are
one
consistent
with
the
general
plan,
two
they're
compliant
with
the
applicable
laws,
regulations
and
policies
of
the
city
in
the
state.
It
would
not
be
detrimental
to
the
public
health
safety
and
general
welfare
and
the
project
is
exempt
from
the
provisions
of
sequo.
F
If
the
planning
commission
does
approve
the
project
approved
the
recommendation
tonight,
the
next
steps
would
be
for
the
city
council
review
and
approval
a
ventura
county,
lafco
review
and
approval,
as
well
as
a
precise
plan
of
design
application
to
the
planning
department
and
building
a
safety
plan
check.
Thank
you.
D
I
appreciate
your
explaining
the
differences
between
the
county,
ra
zoning
designation
and
the
city's
rpd
and
how
they're
compatible,
essentially,
in
this
case,
the
public
notices
that
went
out
and
the
notices
to
the
commissioners
up
until
last
week.
All
said
that
this
case
was
going
to
be
about
ra
zoning.
D
F
Yes,
so
the
way
that
the
noticing
was
reading-
it
did
say
a
re-zone
or
pre-zone
to
ra,
but
there
was
a
second
part
of
that.
It's
or
other
compatible
zoning,
and
so
because
at
the
time
of
the
noticing
was
was
going
out.
Staff
was
unsure
of
the
specific
type
of
zone
that
would
be
going
there,
so
it's
by
including
the
other
compatible
zoning
in
there.
It
gave
us
some
breathing
room
to
make
that.
D
Determination
and
as
you've
explained,
it
is
our
rpd
and
ra
are
entirely
compatible
in
this
case
right,
okay,
so
my
other
question
is
about
pros
and
cons.
There's
there's
a
benefit
for
the
applicants
in
this
case
is
that
they're
they're
able
to
buy
water
and
sewer
services
from
the
city
by
having
these
parcels
incorporated?
D
F
There
are
some
pros
and
cons
to
both
the
annexation
and
then
deciding
not
to
annex.
Definitely
one
of
the
pros
is
that
we
would
get
some
property
taxes
from
the
new
from
any
new
development
that
does
go
into
these
onto
these
respective
lots.
F
Additionally,
we
would
be
it's
like
we
do
have
expenditures
of
other
city
services
out
to
those
particular
areas,
so
that
could
factor
in,
but
overall
this
is
since
it's
already
a
highly
developed
county
peninsula
I
mean,
ultimately,
this
area
could
foreseeably
be
seen
or
the
entire
area
could
foreseeably
be
seen
annexing
into
the
city
as
time
progresses
on,
in
this
particular
case,
they're,
two
very
small,
single
family
lots,
and
so
and
really
just
because
they
are
directly
adjacent.
F
We
have
to
go
through
this
annexation
process
in
order
to
allow
other
property
owners
to
develop
their
property.
D
F
Correct
yeah,
so,
what's
only
before
the
commission
tonight
is
the
annexation
of
these
two
particular
parcels
and
then
they're
that
respect
to
pre-zone.
B
B
F
Correct
so
the
the
limit
of
the
commission's
actions
tonight
are
strictly
based
on
the
pre-zone
and
the
annexation.
The
if
the
city
council
approves
the
annexation
and
if
lafco
approves
the
annexation
as
well.
Ultimately,
it
proves
the
annexation.
F
The
applicant
would
then
have
to
cut,
submit
a
precise
plan
of
design
to
the
planning
department,
and
it's
at
that
time
we
would
consider
the
actual
on-the-ground
physical
development,
and
it's
in
the
review
of
that
application,
that
we
would
make
the
determination
of
you
know.
Can
we
process
the
administrative
are
going
through
at
staff
level
or
if
it's
triggering
something
that
would
require
it
to
come
to
planning
commission.
So.
F
G
All
right,
I
got
a
couple
of
questions
now,
one.
Why
is
the
application?
A
joint
application?
Are
they
two
separate
owners?
Is
that
for
convenience.
F
They
are
two
separate
owners.
They
were
submitting
their
the
annexation
applications
almost
exactly
the
same
time
so
in
terms
of
just
convenience
of
processing
for
them
and
also
for
the
sit
for
city
staff.
So
it's
just
a
three
two
one.
F
G
Okay,
all
right
and
then
of
note
to
me
so
we're
talking
about
this.
This
whole
area
is
a
county
peninsula
still
at
this
point,
but
they
get
their
water
and
sewer
from
the
city.
Correct,
that's
correct
and
we're
talking
about
annexing
these
two
properties.
Are
we
talking
about
a
greater
conversation
about
the
entire
neighborhood
too.
F
No,
so
the
the
annexation
is
only
strictly
for
these
two
particular
parcels
and
the
there's
not
a
conversation
regarding
the
the
greater
portion
of
the
neighborhood
okay.
F
So
here
we
have
it's
a
a
little
map
right
here
in
the
black
dotted
line,
that's
actually
the
city
boundary,
and
so
this
parcel
in
red
on
the
left
and
there's
a
little
parcel
in
red
on
the
right.
F
Those
are
the
identified
parcels,
but
as
you
kind
of
look
at
the
city,
the
black
dotted
line
we've
already
annexed
other
properties
that
were
part
of
the
original
ventu
park,
development
yeah.
G
I
remember
that
these
parcels
were
originally
sold
in
the
back
of
magazines
in
the
20s
back
east,
yes
later
to
be
developed,
I'm
familiar
with
the
history
of
that
neighborhood,
but
but
I'm
just
kind
of
fascinated
that
we're
literally
annexing
two
parcels
out
of
an
entire
neighborhood.
That's
what
we're
discussing
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
was
clear
on
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
Are
there
any
other
questions?
Okay
and
then
now
we
ask
for
the
applicant
or
the
applicant's
representative
to
speak.
You'll
have
15
minutes.
F
So
if
I
may
chair,
I
actually
don't
know
where
my
applicants
are
tonight.
I
actually
spoke
with
them
at
the
counter
today
and
they
said
they
indicated
they
were
going
to
be
here.
I
don't,
I
don't
know
where
they're
at
though.
A
And
this
can
proceed
without
them.
Yes,
okay,
then,
let's
proceed
and
we
do
have
a
let's
see
this
is
kind
of
throwing
me
for
a
loop
here.
A
We
can't
ask
them
any
questions
all
right.
We
do
have
two
public
comment
cards.
We
have
two
speaker
cards,
so
you
will
each
have
five
minutes
and
please
state
the
name
of
your
name
in
your
city
of
residence.
As
I
call
you
up
and
the
first
one
is
steve.
A
H
A
H
H
Okay,
just
so
you
know,
my
property
is
right
behind
the
one
on
edward
that
you're
applying
for,
and
so
my
ultimate
question
is:
how
will
I
be
affected,
and
I
I
know
that
you're
only
talking
about
annexation
tonight,
but
from
this
point
it
goes
to
the
planning
commission
to
to
present
a
building
plan
to
put
up
a
building,
and
first
part
of
that
is
attaching
to
all
the
utilities
sewer
water
power,
blah
blah
blah.
H
I
need
to
know
if
I'm
going
to
be
affected
by
that
in
any
way
the
person
that
was
interested-
and
I
don't
know
his
name-
I
forget
his
name
approached
me
several
months
ago-
he
knocked
on
my
door
and
and
was
telling
us
that
he
was
buying
this
property
behind
us
and
that
he
needed
to
dig
up
our
property
to
attach
to
the
sewer.
H
I
got
a
problem
with
that.
So
when
we,
when
you
get
to
answering
these
questions,
I'd
I'd
really
appreciate
that.
I
We
have
a
very
quiet,
fabulous
neighborhood
and
there's
hardly
any
noise.
It's
like
paradise
and
we've
kept
it
that
way
and
not
that
I'm
saying
anyone's
going
to
come
in
and
make
a
lot
of
noise
or
whatever,
but
just
just
the
building
thought
makes
my
skin
crawl.
I
A
Okay
and
there
are
no
more
speaker
cards,
so
I
will
go
back
to
staff
and
perhaps
they
can
answer
the
questions
and
make
some
comments.
F
Thank
you
chair,
sorry
about
that.
So
to
answer
the
first
question
about
existing
water
and
sewer
there
that
particular
area
there
are
some
service
agreements
that
the
county
has
with
the
city
in
order
to
provide
some
water
and
sewer
these
particular
lots
they,
since
they
are
directly
adjacent,
they
do
have
to
hook
up
directly
into
the
city
and
that's
why
we're
going
through
the
annexation
proceeding
the
annexation
proceedings
in
terms
of
sequa
and
the
impacts
for
the
actual
property
under
so
the
california
environmental
quality
act.
F
Its
main
purpose
is
to
look
at
any
potential
significant
environmental
impacts
that
a
project
will
have
on
the
environment
and
in
cases
like
this,
so
just
going
through
this
portion
of
the
of
the
project,
this
project
would
actually
be
exempt
from
that
quality
act
because
we're
not
doing
any
sticks
on
the
ground.
We're
not
actually
it's
not
constructing
anything,
and
it's
just
going
through
that
annexation
proceeding.
So
there's
certain
areas
of
this
environmental
review
that
that
doesn't
apply
to
this
particular
project.
F
What'll
happen,
though,
is
in
terms
of
the
primary
impacts,
we'll
actually
to
you
know,
as
an
adjacent
property
owner
will
most
likely
be
going
through.
It's
like
the
construction
phase
of
any
single
family
home
if
everything
else
is
approved
further
down
the
line
I
just
want
to,
let
you
know
is
that
so,
when
we
go
through
the
entire
precise
plan
of
design
process,
it
triggers
what's
known
as
a
notification
notice
of
application.
F
So
that's
another
public
hearing
notice
that
we
actually
send
out
to
all
the
residents
within
a
400
foot
radius
of
the
property,
so
you
would
actually
be
noticed
again
once
we
actually
have
a
proposed
development
on
the
site,
and
then
it's
really
at
that
time
that
we
can
then
better
address
any
concerns
that
you
have
regarding
physical
development
of
the
site,
and
that
includes
where
the
sewer
and
water
connections
are
actually
going
to
go
and
all
of
that
pathway.
So
that's,
hopefully
that
can
actually
answer
your
question
at
that
time.
F
If
not,
I
can
actually
get.
I
can
meet
up
with
you
after
the
hearing,
so
we
can
further
discuss
this
in
terms
of
the
the
last
one.
This
it
is
primarily
for
the
last
comment:
it's
for
single-family
residents
and
in
terms
of
having
it's
like
the
quiet,
neighborhood
and
everything
else.
F
It's
it's
great
that
we
have
that
the
city
we
do
have
ordinances
that
are
in
place,
particularly
it's
like
the
noise
ordinance
in
order
to
kind
of
control,
any
nuisances
that
we
have
there
I
mean
there
will
be
during
construction.
There
will
be,
we
will
have
some
noise,
but
beyond
that
there
are
other
city
ordinances
that
can
be
utilized
in
order
to
try
and
maintain
that
atmosphere.
The
existing
atmosphere
out
there.
A
Thank
you,
and
maybe
just
to
piggyback
on
that
there
are
always
restrictions
on
construction
as
to
a
time
frame
during
the
day
how
early
the
construction
can
start,
how
late
it
can
go
and
weekends
and
stuff
like
that.
So
there
are,
the
city
does
place
constraints
on
the
building
itself.
The
building
process
itself.
A
Are
there
any
other?
Commissioner.
D
J
Good
evening,
commissioner,
newman
I'll
try
to
answer
that
the
there
are
two
different
ways
you
can
get
if
you're
on
an
island
or
in
a
peninsula.
That's
the
county,
surrounded
by
city
lands.
H
J
Of
those
is
to
obtain
an
out
of
service
agreement
with
the
adjacent
city,
and
the
second
way
is
to
annex-
and
in
this
case,
because
they're
adjacent
lafco
sent
them
to
the
city
to
to
confer
with
us
and
public
works
on
that.
And
it
was
determined
that
we
should
go
forward
with
the
annexation
request.
D
J
G
I've
got
a
question
so
if
they
are
annexed,
will
that
change?
How
first
responders
operate
in
that
neighborhood?
Do
they
get
a
different
level
of
service
because
they
are
part
of
the
city
response
times
which
part
of
the
county
sheriff's,
the
one
that's
contracted
is
t.o
or
the
county
responds
to
their
calls.
F
A
Any
other
any
other
questions
for
staff.
I'm
sorry!
I
can't
call
you
up
again,
but
I'm
sorry,
I
am
closing
the
the
community,
the
public
hearing
right
now
and
I
will
open
up
the
floor
for
a
motion
or
discussion.
D
Thank
you
again.
I
want
to
thank
both
speakers
for
coming
tonight.
Thank
the
applicant
as
well
thanks
staff
for
their
presentation.
I
understand
there
are
some
concerns
about
what
might
happen.
Change
is
always
unsettling
and
not
always
good.
That
said,
we're
what
we're
discussing
tonight
is
really
a
change
on
a
heading
on
a
piece
of
paper
and
that's
all
we're
not
doing
anything
to
the
environment
tonight,
we're
not
making
any
sewer
hookups
tonight
or
water
hookups,
or
anything
like
that.
D
We're
just
debating
whether
to
recommend
we're
not
even
deciding
that
we're
recommending
something
that
someone
else
will
decide
whether
the
status
of
something
should
go
from
county
status,
to
city
status
and
as
staff
has
told
us,
either
way
it's
all
going
through
the
same
pipes
anyway.
So
this
is
really
just
a
question
of
legal
status
before
us
tonight
and
that's
all
so
with
that.
I
am
going
to
go
ahead
and
recommend
that
we
recommend
cases,
z,
2019
dash,
70199
and
anx
2019-70198.
D
A
Okay,
it's
still
not
coming
up
on
my
screen.
So
do
we
want
to
do
some
on
the
computer
and
I'll
just
do
a
okay.
I
will
vote
yes
and
then
everybody
else
can
do
it.
The
technological
way.
A
Okay,
I
do
the
thing:
okay,
all
right!
A
I'm
sorry,
we
need
to
proceed
with
this
hearing
at
this
time.
The
city
staff
will
be
happy
to
talk
to
you
after
the
meeting
or
tomorrow
during
business
hours.
If
you
don't
mind
waiting
around,
I'm
sure
they'll
be
happy
to
discuss
everything
with
you,
but
at
this
time
we
we
need
to
open
the
next
hearing.
C
C
K
Good
evening,
chairman
mcmahon
members
of
the
commission,
as
previously
mentioned
for
your
consider
consideration
tonight,
is
an
application
to
allow
storage
and
maintenance
of
a
private
vehicle
and
arcade
game
collections
in
an
existing
industrial
building.
K
K
K
This
is
the
planner
area
that
is
discussed
in
the
staff
report
that
needs
refurbishing
or
rehabilitation,
as
well
as
the
ones
in
the
parking
area.
K
K
Subsequent
permits
were
obtained
to
allow
the
the
installation
of
mezzanine
that's
about
6900
square
feet,
and
in
june
of
this
year
the
applicant
filed
the
subject.
Application.
K
The
applicant
intends
to
utilize
the
industrial
building,
to
store
and
perform
maintenance
on
his
private
vehicle
and
arcade
game
collection
to
break
down
the
floor
plan.
On
the
first
floor,
there
will
be
a
show,
car
carousel
car
storage
system
offices,
restroom
and
an
electrical
room
in
the
mezzanine.
There
will
be
some,
it
will
be
you
it
will
use
for
arcade
games,
antique
items
as
well
as
provide
office
area
and
a
rest
room.
K
K
K
Special
use
permits
are
permits
that
evaluates
the
activities
and
uses
that
may
or
may
not
be
appropriate
for
the
vicinity
or
the
the
location.
The
project
conditions
are
imposed
on
that
specialties.
Permit
that
I
cite
that
are
site
specific
in
evaluating
a
special
use
permit.
The
planning
commission
must
find
that
the
proposed
project
is
compatible
with
the
land
uses
in
the
vicinity
and
will
not
be
injurious
or
detrimental
to
public
health
or
welfare
to
surrounding
properties.
K
The
project
is
located
within
an
industrial
park.
There
are
other
uses,
the
other
uses
within
the
vicinity
of
the
project
are
manufacturing,
automotive,
repair,
commercial
and
industrial
contractors
and
commercial
recreational
facilities
to
name
a
few.
No
commercial
activity
is
being
proposed
at
the
the
subject
site.
K
This
project
is
category
categorically
exempt
under
section
15301.
My
use
of
existing
facilities.
K
The
proposed
activity
is
consistent
with
the
general
plan,
specific
plan
15
and
the
municipal
code.
It
will
not
be
detrimental
to
public
health,
safety
or
general
welfare.
It's
category
categorically
exempt
under
sql
incompatible
with
surrounding
land
uses
as
a
matter
of
clarification,
condition.
Number
five.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
require
the
applicant
to
restore
the
existing
or
the
the
landscaping
that
needs
refurbishing.
K
So
I
will
read
a
proposed
condition
and
I
would
suggest
that
the
applicant
listen
as
well,
and
I
quote:
landscape
repair,
slash
restoration
prior
to
the
issuance
of
a
certificate
of
occupancy.
The
applicant
shall
submit
a
landscape
and
irrigation
plan
for
review
and
approval
by
the
community
development
department.
K
The
plan
shall
include
details
to
be
implemented
by
the
applicant
that
repair,
restore
and
renovate
the
existing
landscape
and
irrigation
system.
The
landscape
materials
to
be
planted
shall
consist
of
native
drought,
drought,
tolerant
materials.
The
plants
shall
be
consistent
or
exceed
city
land.
Con
plan
shall
be
consistent
with
or
exceed
city,
landscape
and
irrigation
standards,
and
with
that
staff
is
recommending
to
adopt
that
the
planning
commission
adopt
the
resolution
approving
sup
2019-70606.
D
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
mr
chua,
for
your
report
regarding
of
the
staff
report
stated
that
there's
and
you
just
reiterated:
there's
no
commercial
activity
here,
there's
no
public
access.
That's
stated
in
the
staff
report.
D
D
D
So
is
it
staff's
view,
then,
that
that
there's
no
significant
public
safety
hazard
posed
by
this
application?
That's
correct
great
then.
The
final
thing
I
had
is
when
I
did
my
site
inspection,
there
was
a
roofing
crew,
putting
tar
or
something
up
on
the
roof.
I
presume
that's
out
of
scope.
That's
not
part
of
the
permit.
No,
it's
construction
work
very
good.
Thank
you.
G
So
I
got
a
couple
questions.
One
there's
a
body
shop
exemption
for
this
permit
is
my
understanding.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
it
is
so
what
does
that
mean
exactly.
K
Body
shop
body
shop
is
for
repair
of
automotive
body
for
okay.
G
I
I'm
I'm
friends
with
jay
leno,
I'm
familiar
with
his
setup
and
are
we
saying
that
he's
not
allowed
to
have
a
paint
booth
in
there
to
paint
cars
because
we
are
saying
he's
allowed
to
do
restorations
so
in
some
cases,
when
you're
pulling
an
engine
transmission
out
of
a
car
you're
taking
the
whole
front
end
of
it
off
you're
pulling
the
front
clip
out
if
he
wants
to
do
stuff
like
that,
disassemble
vehicles,
where's
the
where's,
the
line
between
restoration
and
body
work
is,
is
what
I'm
curious
about.
K
Well,
body
works
requires
approval
by
apcd
and
this
is
not
being
reviewed
by
the
aapcd
and
the
applicant.
When
the
application
was
filed
was
asked
if
they
would
be,
they
would
have
body
work
and
they
did
not
say
so
so
they
indicated
okay.
So
maybe.
G
That's
the
question
I'll
ask
the
applicant,
then
okay
and
then
the
other
question
I
had
is
since
we're
saying
this
is
a
private
collection.
If
he,
as
all
collectors,
do
gets
bored
of
a
car
and
wants
to
sell
it,
is
he
allowed
to
do
that
off
of
his
private
property
from
his
collection
at
that
location?
Or
does
he
have
to
move
those
vehicles
off
site
to
sell
them
somewhere
else?
Well,.
K
Not
necessarily
I
mean
he
can
do
sales
as
long
as
he
he
can
do
private
sale
as
long
it's,
not
a
commercial
activity.
Okay
and.
G
E
A
E
E
B
Hi,
mr
malibi,
just
a
few
questions
so
just
to
confirm
all
of
the
cars
that
would
be
in
the
facility
are
all
owned
by
the
one
person.
Yes,
so
he's
not
going
to
be
holding
cars
that
belong
to
other
people
and
mix
and
matching.
So
it's
not
the
intention.
E
B
But
at
this
point,
do
you
want
to
reserve
the
ability
to
have
somebody
else's
cars
in
the
facility?
Aside
from
the
collector,
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
understand.
It
sounds
like
again
just
from
your
answer.
There
may
be
other
cars
owned
by
other
people
at
some
point
that
would
be
in
the
collection,
along
with
the
collector,
do.
B
Okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
as
to
exactly
the
the
cars
that
are
going
to
be
at
the
at
the
location.
Second
of
all,
do
you
envision
a
security
system
and
cameras
and
things
being
put
inside?
Of
course,
how
many
cameras
are
you
putting
outside
the
building.
E
E
This
is
brian
depayne,
he's
the
project
manager,
an
on-site
manager,
probably
about
30
cameras,
maybe
six
outside.
B
D
E
Well,
we
haven't
brought
on
board
a
security
consultant
yet,
but
we
will
and
we
don't
mind
stipulating
to
that.
Okay,
that's
a.
A
Thank
you.
We,
I
don't
think
we
have
any
public
comments.
If
you
have
nothing
more
to
say,
you
can
sit
down.
G
A
A
A
No,
it's
not
thank
you
all
right,
commissioners,
let's
see
I'm
closing
the
public
hearing
and
and
do
we
have
any
more
questions
for
staff.
K
I
would
like
the
commission
to
make
our
recommendation
to
include
the
the
revised
condition
number
five
as
part
of
the
interview.
B
K
B
B
A
B
B
You
have
to
submit
the
plan
to
the
community
development
department
and
that
plan
again
is
to
restore
repair,
renovate
the
existing
landscaping
and
irrigation
system,
and
when
you
do
that
plan,
when
you
submit
it,
it
has
to
comply
with
or
exceed
the
city,
landscape
and
irrigation
standards.
B
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
commissioner
bus
for
reminding
us
of
that.
I
appreciate
that
okay,
so
I
will
now
open
the
floor
up
promotion
and
or
discussion.
A
D
I
have
no
objections
at
all
to
this
project
and
I
like
to
see
nice
cars,
but
I
also
want
to
respect
the
privacy
of
this
applicant.
So
with
that,
I
will
move
that
we
approve
sup
2019-70606.
A
A
A
Okay,
item
number:
nine
commission
comments
and
av
1234
reports.
Are
there
any
comments
from
my
fellow
commissioners,
commissioner?.
D
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
Just
just
a
quick
housekeeping
note.
I
will
be
out
of
town
for
the
scheduled
november
4th
meeting.
A
B
Excuse
me
chair
no
follow-up
and
upcoming
issues.
I
would
like
to
mention
that
currently,
there
are
no
items
scheduled
on
the
planet
commission
agenda.
However,
that
could
change.
You
just
want
to
put
that
out
there.
So
please
keep
those
dates,
reserved
and
clear
and
along
those
lines,
city
council
has
set
their
meeting
schedule
for
the
2020
year
and
consistent
with
city
requirements
and
policies.
The
planning
commission
schedule
will
continue
to
be
the
monday
preceding
city
council
meetings
for
the
2020
year
and
included
in
your
packet
is
dates
to
hold
for
2020.
A
Thank
you
anything
else
at
this
time
right.
The
meeting
is
now
adjourned
to
the
next
meeting
october,
8th
2019,
at
6
pm.
Thank
you.
Everybody.