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Description
Planning Commission 4/12/2021
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Yes
good
evening
and
thank
you,
chairbus
several
correspondents
items
were
received
on
agenda
item
number
7a
and
provided
to
the
planning
commission
one
last
thursday
and
then
earlier
or
later
this
afternoon,
in
supplemental
packets,
and
there
are
no
additional
announcements
concerning
tonight's
agenda
items.
Thanks.
A
Just
so
everybody
knows,
but
first
we
can
go
on
to
public
comments.
Now
is
the
time
for
public
comment.
At
this
time,
any
person
may
address
the
commission
regarding
a
city
planning
matter.
That
is
not
on
this
evening's
agenda.
Should
the
commission
wish
to
discuss
an
issue
raised
by
a
member
of
the
public?
The
issue
will
be
referred
to
staff
for
a
scheduling
on
a
future
agenda.
Anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
under
the
public
comments
must
complete
a
speaker
card
and
file
it
with
recording
secretary
before
the
public
comments.
A
Portion
of
the
agenda
is
called
speaker's.
Remarks
should
be
addressed
to
a
to
the
commission
as
a
whole
and
not
to
an
individual
commissioner
or
staff
member
unless
otherwise
provided
by
the
commission.
Speakers
are
limited
to
five
minutes.
The
monitor
in
front
of
you
will
show
you
the
remaining
time
you
have
secretary
gwar.
I
believe
we
do
not
have
any
public
speakers
tonight.
Correct.
A
Is
not
present
correct?
Okay,
we
will
try
to
come
back
to
him
in
7a,
just
to
double
check
all
right,
then
we'll
move
on
next.
We
have
the
consent
calendar
with
the
minutes
of
march
29
2021.
Do
any
of
my
fellow
commissioners
have
any
comments
or
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
I
would
move
to
approve
the
minutes.
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A
C
C
Good
evening,
I'm
john
brooks
I'm
here
this
evening
to
provide
information
on
the
development
of
the
city's
climate
environmental
action
plan,
our
c
app
and
its
relationship
to
the
general
plan
update
in
2014.
The
city
conducted
an
extensive
community
engagement
campaign
to
develop
a
future
vision
for
the
city.
One
of
the
top
10
guiding
principles
selected
by
the
community
was
a
commitment
to
environmental
leadership
and
the
development
of
a
climate
action
plan.
C
In
addition,
city
council
has
set
the
development
of
the
sustainability
strategic
plan
as
one
of
its
top
10
priorities
in
the
climate
and
environmental
action
plan
is
among
the
top
10
priorities
for
the
next
two
years
that
council
identified
at
the
march
30th
planning
meeting,
and
here
we
show
the
elements
of
the
climate
environmental
action
plan.
Our
goal
is
to
develop
this
plan
in
parallel
with
the
general
plan
this
year,
so
that
they
are
aligned
and
mutually
supportive.
C
Those
components
shown
in
here
in
the
dark
green
have
already
been
completed.
The
light
green
are
in,
process
are
been
developed
and
the
blue
boxes
are
the
additional
components
that
we
are
working
on
now
to
complete
the
sea
out.
The
c
app
will
detail
the
strategies
and
actions
that
the
city
will
take
to
pursue,
will
pursue
to
protect
the
environment
and
address
the
challenges
of
climate
change.
C
C
A
c
apt
part
really
equals
a
cap,
a
climate
action
plan
which
many
of
you
may
be
familiar
with,
but
it
also
includes
other
environmental
issues.
For
instance,
we
have
had
stakeholder
members,
suggest
adoption
of
a
dark
skies
ordinance
or
some
have
suggested,
an
ordinance
to
eliminate
gas-powered
landscaping
equipment.
Those
would
not
be
substantial
contributors
to
reducing
overall
greenhouse
gases,
but
they
would
affect
our
environmental
quality
of.
C
C
Significant
strides
have
been
made
in
reducing
community
emissions
over
the
past
decade,
even
as
the
city's
population
has
grown
with
2018
emissions
13
and
a
half
percent
lower
than
2010
values.
This
reduction
is
primarily
due
to
energy
conservation,
a
transition,
a
more
renewable
energy
and
improved
vehicle
fuel
efficiency.
C
This
chart
shows
historical
and
future
community
greenhouse
gas
emissions
based
on
a
business's
usual
model,
I.e.
It's
assuming
that
no
specific,
further
mitigation
actions
are
taken
by
the
city
or
the
state
transportation
making
up
approximately
50
percent
is
shown
in
orange.
In
the
bottom,
the
yellow
is
electricity,
natural
gas
and
brown,
followed
by
the
more
minor
sources
up
here.
C
The
reduction
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions
from
electricity
that
resulted
in
2019
from
the
communities
switched
to
clean
power
alliance
at
100.
Renewable
is
very
evident.
You
can
see
it
kind
of
falling
off
the
cliff
here
and
just
a
dramatic
reduction
in
this
business.
As
usual
scenario,
emissions
are
projected
to
be
28
below
2010
values
by
2030
and
remain
fairly
steady,
trending
roughly
with
population
thereafter,
since
electricity
emissions
reductions
have
largely
been
realized,
the
remaining
ways
to
achieve
significant
further
reductions
are
to
address
the
other
major
emission
sources,
namely
transportation
and
natural
gas
use.
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C
C
I
think
I
looked
a
little
too
far.
The
stakeholders
have
been
participating
in
a
series
of
four
stakeholder
meetings
on
various
topics
of
the
c-op.
These
stakeholder
meetings
have
been
well
attended
by
the
public,
with
between
60
and
100
participants
at
each
active
discussions,
polls
and
q
and
a
have
taken
place
throughout.
C
C
So
I'll
present
a
couple
of
examples
of
how
the
cm
and
the
general
plan
fit
together.
For
example,
in
looking
at
transportation
emissions,
a
goal
within
the
general
plan
might
be
to
reduce
the
vehicle
miles.
Traveled
also
referred
to
as
vmt
frequently
as
an
outcome,
and
to
do
that,
we
could
have
a
couple
strategies
here,
like
providing
improved
amenities
for
transit
riders,
provide
a
connected
bike
and
pedestrian
network
or
pursue
mixed-use
compact
development
in
appropriate
locations.
C
C
Here's
a
second
example
of
a
desired
outcome
that
could
be
incorporated
into
a
general
plan
policy,
reducing
building
energy
emissions
and
here's
some
potential
strategies,
energy
efficiency
requirements
for
remodels,
requiring
heat
pumps
for
pull
heating
and
new
pools
a
reach
code
to
require
all
new
construction
to
be
electric.
Only
our
electric
preferred
and
maximize
participation
in
the
clean
power
alliance.
At
the
100
percent
clean
power
level,
none
of
the
strategies
have
been
decided.
C
A
developer
can
incorporate
those
findings
by
reference
into
their
proposed
project
and
thus
save
the
city's
planning
department
from
having
to
conduct
a
separate
sql
analysis
on
that
issue
and
the
c
app
will
be
able
to
undergo
the
sql
process.
At
the
same
time
as
the
general
plan
and
they're
going
to
use
a
consistent
set
of
baseline
conditions
and
growth
assumptions
to
ensure
that
they're
mutually
supportive.
C
A
D
I
wanted
to
ask
about
a
personal
hobby
horse
of
mine,
as
you
know,
I'm
in
favor
of
banning
internal
combustion
engines
and
leaf
blowers
and
other
small
landscaping
appliances
in
the
city.
I
realized
that
doing
so
would
not
be
a
significant
reduction
in
greenhouse
gases
city-wide,
but
it
would
definitely
improve
the
health
of
the
person
using
that
appliance,
and
it
would
also
this
also
touches.
Our
noise
element
of
our
general
plan
would
result
in
a
noise
reduction
for
the
user
and
in
the
immediate
surroundings.
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E
C
C
E
C
C
Those
are
actually
goals:
they're,
not
mandates
for
the
community,
but
the
city
council
at
the
january
12th
meeting
did
kind
of
set
that
as
the
floor
that
we
should
be
shooting
for
and
we
should
try
and
exceed
those
levels.
So
the
city
council
has
asked
staff
to
develop
strategies
that
help
the
community
exceed
the
state's
goals.
A
I'm
getting
head
nods,
so
I
just
had
one
quick
follow-up
on
this.
This
is
the
second
meeting
that
we've
had
where
we're
talking
about
things
in
the
general
plan
and
public
community
outreach
and
the
acorn
has
been
referenced
both
times
as
kind
of
the
primary
source
of
contact
for
for
residents
great
shout
out
to
the
acorn.
It
is
our
local
paper
and
a
great
source
of
community
news,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
all
understand
that
the
ad
buys
that
are
happening.
A
There
are
only
for
the
the
print
option
when
you
read
an
article
online
through
the
acorn.
Those
ads
are
actually
driven
by
google,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
city
is
aware
that
when
you're
doing
an
ad
buy
you're
only
buying
for
the
print
as
opposed
to
the
print
and
online-
and
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of-
is
that
acorns
delivery
isn't
universal
throughout
the
city
itself,
it
is
primarily
to
single-family
homes,
and
so
we
do
not.
A
A
A
F
G
All
right
so
so
yeah
as
chair
bus
stated,
we
basically
have
the
general
plan
consistency
review
of
the
capital
improvement
program
for
the
next
two
fiscal
years.
I
would
like
to
note
tonight.
I
also
have
brent
sakaida
here,
he's
a
budget
officer
liz
perez
facilities
manager
as
well
as
a
nader
hidari
who's.
The
deputy
public
works
director
and
city
engineer,
and
they
would
be
available
to
answer
any
questions
regarding
any
of
the
projects
or
the
budget
associated
with
the
cip.
G
So,
as
a
bit
of
background,
the
cip
basically
includes
short-term
projects
for
the
next
two
fiscal
years,
as
well
as
some
long-term
projects
that
are
funded
over
a
longer
period
of
time.
It's
organized
into
11
project
categories,
basically
dealing
with
facilities,
housing,
landscape,
streetscape
library,
open
space,
storm
water,
street
transportation,
traffic,
undergrounding
wastewater
and
water.
G
So
the
planning
commission's
review,
it's
required
under
california
government
code,
section
65401,
basically
that
this
planning
commission
needs
to
report
on
the
consistency
of
any
public
works
project
in
relation
to
the
adopted
general
plan,
and
our
evaluation
basically
took
a
look
at
all
the
different
project
categories
for
the
next
two
fiscal
years
and
looked
at
the
overarching
general
plan
goals,
as
well
as
the
individual
goals
and
policies
contained
within
each
of
the
general
plan.
Elements.
G
G
50
of
that
is
actually
going
to
be
paid
via
the
quimby
fees
that
have
been
collected
by
crpd
through
development
in
the
city,
and
so
these
projects
all
basically
are
consistent
with
the
general
plans
goal
as
far
as
providing
an
overall
framework
for
a
planned
and
unified
community
providing
a
balance
of
facilities
throughout
as
well
as
providing
maintaining
park
and
recreation
facility
and
then
other
elements
such
as
our
social
element,
dealing
with
quality
services
and
programs
and
also
our
public
element.
Public
buildings
element
as
well.
G
So
another
category
is,
we
have
housing
projects,
and
actually
this
has
not
been
included
in
in
the
most
recent
years,
within
the
cip
and
prior
to
the
dissolution
of
the
redevelopment
agency.
It
was
typically
included
in
the
cip,
but
this
year
it's
been
re
introduced,
partly
due
to
the
need
for
housing
and
also
reinforced
by
the
city
council's
goal,
setting
just
this
past
week.
G
So
as
part
of
that,
you
know,
the
money
can
be
used
for
a
variety
of
priorities.
You
know,
including
permanent
supportive
housing,
emergency
home,
shelters,
contributions
to
land,
trust
and
affordable
housing.
There's
no
specific
projects
identified
at
this
time,
but
having
the
money
set
aside
actually
put.
G
So
this
slide
we
just
kind
of
coupled
together
the
landscape,
streetscape
and
then
the
street
projects
on
one
you
know
the
landscape,
streetscape
or
typically
those
kind
of
community
enhancement
or
beautification
projects
such
as
thousand
oaks
boulevard,
streetscape
improvements.
You
also
have
westlake
boulevard,
landscape
improvements
and
also
some
rehabilitation
and
planting
of
oak
trees
up
in
zuniga
ridge,
as
well
as
replacing
trees
and
landscaping
damage
via
the
woolsey
fire.
G
And
those
are
you
know
all
consistent
with
both
our
overarching
general
plan
call
policy
as
far
as
preserving
the
spaciousness
and
the
attractiveness
of
thousand
oaks,
as
well
as
circulation,
element
and
conservation
element
and
the
scenic
highway
element
policies
our
street.
Oh,
I
should
also
mention
our
forestry
helmet
and
then
you
know
as
far
as
street.
Those
are
typically
the
types
of
projects
that
are
associated
with
circulation.
G
So
more
of
the
roadway
improvements,
you
know:
construction,
whiting,
rehabilitation
and
a
variety
of
other
kind
of
modifications
and
construction
to
help
create
the
circulation
patterns
through
the
various
modes.
So
those
are
all
consistent
with
both
our
general
plan
overall
goal
for
integrated
circulation
and
transportation
systems,
as
well
as
circulation,
element
policies
and
our
safety
element
policies
as
well.
G
Then
we
have
the
variety
of
wastewater
and
water
projects,
so
the
focus
on
that
for
the
wastewater
is
primarily
on
the
whole
canyon
treatment
plant
and
also
the
implementation
of
its
master
plan
and
and
then
in
terms
of
water
supply.
Just
the
overarching
ongoing
efforts
to
ensure
viable
and
dependable
water,
short
storage
and
distribution
system,
as
well
as
the
repair
replacement
of
upgrade
of
those
existing
infrastructure,
as
well
as
a
groundwater
utilization
project.
That's
under
going
right
now,
so
other
projects
we
have
undergrounding
of
overhead
power
and
communications
facilities.
G
So
just
real
quick,
just
at
the
end
of
last
month.
As
far
as
the
timeline,
the
city
council,
capital
facilities
subcommittee,
reviewed
this
proposed
cip
tonight.
The
planning
commission
we're
asking
you
to
review
for
general
plan
consistency
tomorrow
night
will
be
followed
by
the
city
council
study
session
on
the
proposed
cip,
with
the
anticipated
public
hearing
and
adoption
in
june
8th
this
year
for
the
final
cip.
G
A
F
G
G
G
I
I'm
not
saying
that
it
gets
scrapped,
I
mean,
and
I
mean
I
don't
have
any
of
that
information
handy,
but
I
mean
in
past
presentations
for
the
general
plan
update.
You
know,
the
predominant
housing
type
within
thousand
oaks
is
still,
you
know,
single-family
and
will
very
much
remain
so
so
you
know
as
we're
looking
at
addressing
future
housing
needs,
possibly
yeah
that
multi-family
percentage
goes
up,
but
you
know
that's
yet
to
be
determined.
F
G
F
G
Okay,
okay,
because
I
I
didn't,
we
didn't
really
cite
any
of
those
in
terms
of
the
cip
analysis.
That's
before
you
tonight,
yeah
so
yeah.
That
is
a
you
know,
a
policy
to
allow
the
clustering
of
residential
development
in
those
two.
You
know
constrained
lands
that
have
you
know,
topographical
resources
that
need
to
be
protected
and
so
forth.
So
so.
G
Correct,
I
mean-
and
I
mean
I
think
partly
that
is
you
know,
we're
getting
into
kind
of
zoning
implementation
tools
and
so
forth,
and
I
mean
again,
like
the
residential
plan
development
zone-
allows
that
flexibility,
where
you
can
concentrate
development
to
the
developable
portions
of
the
land.
If
you
preserve
those
other
areas
that
are
constrained
so.
F
Okay,
thank
you.
I
have
one
last
question
and
that's
more
of
the
gist
of
what
you
were
talking
about
and
you're
talking
about
the
undergrounding
and-
and
I
don't
know
how
much
the
city
is
emphasizing
that
I
was
just
kind
of
curious
because
to
me,
petraro
road
is
a
scenic
corridor
and
I
wonder
if
that's
anywhere
on
the
list
for
undergrounding.
H
Yeah
that'd
be
my
pleasure.
This
is
not
our
idaho
city
engineer.
Good
evening.
Yeah,
the
the
public
works
department
is
still
proceeding
forward,
based
on
a
city
council
established
list
of
undergrounding
master
plan,
which
was
from
1992.
There
was
about
34
locations
on
there
about
a
third
of
them
have
been
completed,
including
raino,
road,
thousands,
boulevard,
hillcrest,
centu
park
road
and
several
others.
I
don't
believe
petrero's
on
there
I'll
I
can.
I
can
revisit
that.
H
I
think
maybe
a
part
of
that
is
because
the
majority
of
the
toreros
may
be
unincorporated,
and
maybe
it's
not
as
high
of
a
traveled
arterial,
as
maybe
some
of
those
other
streets,
the
ones
that
are
still
on
the
list
which
are
like
you
know,
looming
potentially.
Next
are
the
remaining
piece
on
moore
park,
road
and
jans
road
and
a
few
other
locations,
but
I
don't
believe
I
saw
catrero
on
that
list
previously.
F
I
H
Yes,
so
the
rule
20
is
the
edison
program
and
there's
three
tiers.
There's
the
tier
that
edison
does
the
project
themselves
and
those
are
the
rule
28
projects
and
those
are
the
monies
that
edison
collects
from
the
ratepayers
and
eventually
it
builds
up
to
us
to
a
level
where
they
can
go
and
do
a
larger
community
project.
Those
are
you
know
few
and
far
between,
because
it's
kind
of
a
once
every
20
years
project.
H
H
H
H
Than
sce
provides
some
rebates
and
some
tax
credits,
which
makes
those
projects
a
little
more
affordable
and
then
20c
projects
are
fun
projects
that
are
done
typically
by
developer
at
his
own
expense.
Without
any,
you
know,
participation
from
the
city,
so
it's
kind
of
all
three
measures
that
we've
been
pushing
forward.
There
is
no
general
fund
contribution
toward
undergrounding.
I
Make
sense
the
follow-up
question
I
had
was
with
regard
to
public
safety
power
shutdowns
and
in
light
of
the
frequency
and
more
than
likely
no
end
in
sight.
The
white
cliff
circuit
seems
to
be
the
most
affected
and
more
than
likely
related
to
the
overground
or
up
ariel
lines
that
extend
up
earth's
road
on
the
east
side,
which
is
adjacent
to.
H
Yeah,
so
that's
up
near
olsen,
that's
our
olsen
road
pump
station.
Maybe
that's
the
one
you're
referring
to
the
cip
budget,
that
the
draft
cip
budget
does
not
specifically
call
out
the
locations
of
the
undergroundings,
because
it
has
to
be
a
little
bit
dynamic
to
be
able
to
match
up
with
the
development
projects,
and
you
know,
give
us
a
kind
of
a
better
bang
for
the
buck.
If
we're
going
to
be
doing
that
type
of
work.
But
that's
a
good
comment:
there
we're
still
learning
a
lot
about
this.
H
You
know
psps
it's
kind
of
a
whole
new
thing,
but
you're
right
that
certain
circuits
have
been
hit
a
lot
worse
than
others
and
we're
just
getting
that
data.
I
saw
a
few
reports
a
few
weeks
ago.
That
said,
you
know
x
circuit,
had
you
know
six
shutoffs,
I
think
partially
in
response
to
that.
Sce
is
gonna,
be
or
they're
saying
they're
gonna
be
a
little
sensitive
to
doing
shutoffs
to
those
same
neighborhoods
who
had
multiple
shutoffs
before.
H
I
I
H
Yeah,
the
solid
waste
fund
typically
is
not
used
for
capital
projects,
so
we
can.
We
can
revisit
that
and
see
if
that
fund
balance
is
really
a
solid
waste
that
fund
balance
or
that
if
it's
truly
a
solid
waste
capital
project
balance,
so
we
can
look
into
that.
It
likely
may
not
be
intended
just
for
for
capital
projects.
We
are
doing
a
few
projects
here
and
there
we're
doing
our
first
city
owned
solar
project
at
the
msc
right
now,
and
there
may
be
a
few
other
ones
going
on,
but
in.
H
I
D
D
G
G
D
D
M
Just
a
quick
clarification,
you're
correct
it's
only
for
the
fiscal
year
22
and
23
capital
projects,
but
as
a
best
practice,
staff
includes
three
additional
years
to
include
projects
that
that
might
take
a
little
bit
longer
or
and
also
as
a
a
plan,
moving
forward
to
see
what
we
have
to
look
out
for
in
the
next
three
years.
So,
but
right
now
we're
only
looking
at
those
first,
two
fiscal
years.
D
E
Thank
you
chairbus,
and
I
guess
I'll
pick
up
on
somewhat
of
a
similar
theme.
I
know
the
governor
just
passed
some
kind
of
resolution
with
regard
to
preparing
for
the
next
wildfire.
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
didn't
whether
or
not
there's
going
to
be
any
budgetary
issue
that
will
require
the
city
to
implement
something
to
implement
whatever
it
is.
The
governor
did
or
to
take
action
as
to
whatever
the
governor
did.
H
E
H
L
M
So
what
happens
is
initially
the
project
managers
when
they
go
through
and
request
that
the
various
projects
go
onto
the
wish
list
come
up
with
a
priority
and
usually
what
we
do
is
during
the
review
process.
We
do
make
sure
that
we
look
at
priority
one
projects
initially
first
and
then
the
priority
twos
are
necessary,
but
not
essential
and
then
priority.
Three
projects
are
the
nice
to
do's.
It
would
be
nice
if
we
have
any
extra
money
which
is
tight
right
now,
but
and
those
would
be
put
put
off
a
little
bit
further.
M
A
Thank
you,
you
got
it.
Thank
you,
commissioner
lansin.
That
was
very
informative.
I
I
I
am
actually
out
of
questions
there,
but
everybody
got
mine
and
then
some
so
all
I
will
follow
up
with
is,
if
you
guys
need
any
help,
deciding
where
to
spend
those
money
and
want
any
of
my
pet
projects.
Please
send
me
an
email,
I'll,
be
more
than
happy
to
to
give
you
my
list
of
things
that
I'd
love
to
see
in
the
city,
but
that
was
a
wonderful
report.
F
B
A
B
Item
7a
hearing
having
been
advertised
as
required
by
law,
is
hereby
open
to
consider
agenda
item
7a
special
use
permit
sup
2020-7
to
allow
a
sports
training
facility
with
an
alternative
use
of
parking
facilities
within
an
existing
industrial
complex
located
at
2382
townsgate
road.
The
applicant
is
harcan
enterprises
inc,
and
this
is
regarding
future
elite
academy.
A
J
J
The
request
is
to
operate
a
gym
in
the
m1
zone
and
they're.
Also,
the
applicant
is
also
requesting
approval
of
an
alternating,
shared
use
of
parking
facilities,
and
this
allows
projects
when
there's
a
parking
shortage
to
be
able
to
share
parking
with
the
other
tenants
when
everybody
has
different
peak
times
and
so
they're
able
to
use
the
parking
when
other
businesses
are
closed.
J
J
J
J
Staff
cannot
support
two
of
the
findings.
The
first
one
is.
The
project
does
not
comply
with
the
number
of
required
parking
spaces
required
by
the
code,
and
we
believe
that
future
lead
academy
is
a
more
intensive
business
operation
than
the
other
industrial
tenants
in
the
center,
because
it
involves
a
lot
of
large
numbers
of
people.
High
turnover
parking
spaces
at
certain
peak
times,
and
this
could
cause
conflicts
with
the
other
use
tenants
and
is
not
compatible.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
There
are
two
training
sessions
during
the
school
day
and
they're
each
two
hours,
long,
first,
one's
between
eight
to
ten
a.m
and
the
second
one
is
12
to
2
pm
at
around
11
o'clock,
students
transition
to
the
other
activity,
whether
it's
you
know
going
back
to
schooling
or
to
work
out
and
they're
transported
to
these
locations
by
the
van.
That's
that
the
future
elite
academy.
J
Operates
in
the
evenings
between
4
to
9
p.m,
monday
through
friday
is
when
the
private
group
training
starts,
and
this
is
open
to
youth,
high
school
college,
students
and
other
adults.
Each
class
is
one
hour
long
with
a
maximum
of
five
athletes
and
one
trainer,
and
they
can
have
three
classes
going
on
simultaneously.
J
J
J
J
J
J
This
operation
would
generate
a
requirement
of
55
parking
spaces
when
looking
at
the
other
tenants
and
adding
up
their
parking
requirements,
including
the
parking
program
that
was
approved
for
the
church.
We
come
up
with
73
spaces
for
a
total
of
128
spaces
and
therefore
coming
up
with
a
15
space
parking
deficit.
J
J
J
J
I
guess
they
started
a
social
club
and
also
has
some
special
events
on
saturdays
when
they
bring
out
the
cars
and
people
walk
around.
So
that
was
not
considered
as
part
of
the
analysis,
and
it
was
discussed
that
at
four
o'clock
is
the
peak
parking
time
for
future
elite
academy
when
the
other
businesses
are
winding
down,
so
they
may
be
winding
down,
but
they
have
not
yet
closed.
So
there
could
be
some
some
a
few
conflicts
there.
J
J
J
J
J
This
is
something
else
that
was
pulled
up
their
website
and
see
they're
currently
in
session
for
the
2020-2021
academic
year,
and
that
there's
a
demand
for
high
school
already
and
higher
grade
level.
Expansion
is
on
the
horizon,
so
this
leads
us
to
think
that
they're
going
to
be
expanding
the
business.
J
There's
something
else
that
came
from
the
website
who
will
be
training?
They
have
monthly
memberships,
that
they're
offering
and
that
fitness
is
for
everybody.
It
seems
like
not
just
athletes,
but
for
anybody
who
wants
to
work
out-
and
these
times
are
throughout
the
day
and
monday
through
friday,
and
it
was
also
advertised
that
there
was
yoga
going
to
be
offered
on
saturday
and.
J
J
J
J
J
J
However,
if
the
planning
commission
decides
to
approve
the
sup,
it
needs
to
do
the
following
things:
it
needs
to
provide
findings
of
approval.
Those
five
findings
needs
to
state
that
the
project
satisfies
sequa
and
staff
will
bring
back
the
project
to
the
planning
commission
after
it's
been
reviewed
with
the
applicant.
J
J
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
miss
young,
very
much
for
your
presentation.
I
want
to
begin
with
a
scoping
question.
Perhaps
is
for
mr
heather
less
than
half
an
hour
before
we
began
our
sound
checks.
This
evening
we
received
a
different
set
of
plans
than
those
that
were
included
with
public
notice
with
the
agenda
that
came
out
last
week,
and
my
question
is
what
is
before
us
this
evening,
which
set
of
plans
should
we
be
using
in
our
assessment
of
this
application.
E
That's
a
great
question,
mr
newman.
Let
me
just
state
that
staff's
presentation
from
as
young
as
based
on
the
plans
that
she
received
weeks,
if
not
months
ago,
so
to
your
point.
If
there
are
new
plans
that
are
being
considered
by
the
applicant
that
the
applicant
is
adamant
must
be
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
reviewed.
We
need
to
have
that
discussion
from
right
now,
I'm
not
positive
that
that
is
the
case.
E
But
at
this
time
I
think
we,
unless
it
changes
with
applicant,
given
information,
we
need
to
see
where,
where
they
are,
and
if
that
is
the
case
where
they
have
a
new
set
of
plans
that
they
are
submitting,
that
they
want
the
planning
commission
to
consider.
We
can
take
that
up
once
we
understand
that
position.
D
So
do
I
understand
correctly,
then
thank
you
for
that.
Do
I
understand
correctly
that
our
alternatives
are
either
a
to
approve
or
reject
the
application,
including
the
plans
previously
received.
That's
that's
option
a
or
b
and
we'll
ask
this
of
the
applicant
when
it's
their
turn
but
b.
If
they
say
no,
no,
no.
D
E
That
would
be
correct,
generally
correct.
I
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
again
we
are
basing
the
presentation.
Mr
young's
position
is
based
on
the
plans
that
she
reviewed
over
a
period
of
time.
So
again
to
your
point,
our
position
is
as
laid
out
by
ms
young,
and
maybe
mr
kirk
might
have
something
to
add,
but,
as
you
pointed
out,
if
it
turns
out
that
they
were,
they
want
a
different
set
of
plans
that
they
really
need,
because
that
might
affect
the
conditions
as
well.
D
D
D
I
appreciate
that
and
that's
that's
one
reason:
I'm
asking
what
what
is
before
us
tonight
and
that
the
answer
that
is
mister
here
just
underlined
is
the
set
of
plans
that
you've
worked
and
you
and
your
colleagues
have
been
working
on
for
some
time.
It's
not
the
plan.
We
received
two
two
microseconds
before
the
meeting
again.
J
N
Correctness,
commissioner,
newman,
that's
a
really
good
point:
the
staff
report,
the
analysis
that
was
provided
to
you
was
based
on
a
set
of
plans
that
are
attached
to
your
packet.
The
set
of
plans
that
were
submitted
tonight.
Staff
has
not
had
a
chance
performing
analyses
and
the
parking
and
operational
standards
could
be
different
and
could
result
in
different
metrics.
That
would
be
evaluated.
D
So
exactly
I'm
just
I'm
I'm
very
strong
answer
today:
the
set
of
plans
that
I
have
not
had
a
chance
to
review
or
not
in
scope.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
clearing
that
up
with
regard
to
this
young's
presentation
and
and
an
area
that
isn't
scoped,
you've
indicated
that
there
is
training
and
I'm
sure
the
difference
between
tutoring
and
a
tutoring
center
in
school
may
come
up
later
in
the
hearing,
but
with
regard
to
whatever
business
activity.
Fda
is
engaged
in
in
an
m1
zone
area.
J
N
Yeah
most
most
of
our
tutoring
centers
are
located
in
commercial
zones.
We
have
had
a
few
in
the
past
that
did
occupy
industrial
areas
and
operate
there.
They
are
considered
in
our
code
as
a
as
a
training
facility,
so
training
facilities
are
allowed
the
m1
zone
and
that's
how
they've
they've
gotten
in
there.
The
intensity
is
one
thing
we
do
to
take
a
look
at
it.
N
D
N
We
did
reach
out
to
many
of
the
tutoring
centers.
A
lot
of
them
are
not
available
because
of
the
covet
up.
You
know
order
and
they're
just
not
operating
like
we
normally
would
we
stopped
by
a
sullivan
learning
center
and
they're
limited
on
their
hours,
so
they
they
have.
You
know
they
do
have
multiple
kids
at
one
time,
but
they're
limited
on
how
long
they
off
they
operate.
D
D
J
Yes,
I
just
want
to
say
that
when
I
first
talked
to
the
applicant,
when
they
were
going
over
what
kinds
of
activities
they
were
doing,
one
of
them,
one
activity
or
one
part
of
the
program-
was
offering
a
school
for
seventh
and
eighth
graders
within
this
building,
and
I
had
told
them
that
you
know
it's
not
permitted
with
the
in
the
m1
zone
and
then
later
on
when
they
submit
their
application.
They
said.
Oh,
we
found
another
building,
we're
going
to
sign
the
lease,
and
I
said
well
where
is
it?
J
D
Yeah,
of
course,
the
website
is
public
or
an
instagram
feed
is
public,
and
I
believe
you
should.
Is
it
the
case?
Well,
let
me
ask
you
as
a
question:
is
it
the
case
that
you
shared
pages
from
the
website
and
or
from
the
instagram
feed
that
were
at
variance
with
what
was
represented
as
the
business
activity
in
the
application.
E
Once
we
learned
more
about
the
gym
use
and
this
this
new
program
that
they
were
going
wanted
to
process,
that's
when
more
attention
was
given
to
what
do
you?
What
are
you
actually
proposing
here
exactly
and
then
based
upon
that
it
was
and
they
were
informed
that
they
needed
to
go
through
svp
process
or
special
use.
Permit
process.
E
Yes,
I
could,
if
you
made
mr
kearns
or
arrive,
I
just
jump
on
here.
So
as
you
look
at
attachment,
six
there's
a
history
of
information
that
we
provided
to
you
regarding
various
instances
that
we
had
so
one
of
those
is
that
when
you
have
a
the
building,
permit
was
initially
pulled,
but
that
requires
in
other
permanent
people
such
as
a
electrical
permit
and
a
plumbing
permit.
For
example,
those
were
actually
requested
initially,
but
not
pulled.
So
as
time
went
on,
no
inspections
were
being
done.
E
E
We
took
that
in
and
the
city's
position
is
that,
based
on
our
review
of
the
document,
not
one
building
inspector
for
the
city
signed
off
on
any
document
like
that.
Not
only
that,
but
there
was
no
polling
of
the
plumbing
and
electrical
permits,
so
those
would
never
have
been
finalized
either
because
they
never
pulled
those
permits,
and
the
final
thing
is:
there
were
dock.
There
was
information
on
that
document
for,
for
example,
a
mechanical
permit,
which
was
never
even
pulled
by
the
applicant
in
the
first
place,
so
that
was
signed
off
on.
E
D
D
D
J
D
Okay,
but
but
for
purposes
of
code
compliance,
the
city
is
required
to
allocate
a
set
number
of
parking
spaces
per
a
set
amount
of
square
footage,
depending
on
what
and
the
ratio
of
those
may
differ.
I
understand
based
on
zoning
but
but
or
or
landings
type,
but
if
there
is
a
requirement
to
allocate
set
ratio
or
parking
spaces
to
form
space.
Is
that
correct.
J
D
D
Okay
and
then
one
last
question
on
that,
it
sounds
from
your
report
and
you
pointed
to
several
pieces
of
marketing
collateral
website
instagram
from
the
applicant
in
support
of
this,
that
a
concern
that
a
concern
of
the
cities
is
that
the
activities
currently
described
may
grow
in
in
nature
and
scope
may
involve
more
activity.
More
people
more
of
a
demand
for
parking
than
are
currently
envisioning.
Is
that
a
fair
statement.
N
If
I
could
just
add
to
that,
the
two
main
concerns
in
front
of
you
tonight
from
planning
perspective
are
the
compatibility
issue
with
the
other
tenants
in
the
center,
as
well
as
the
parking
supply
versus
the
actual
parking
demand.
So
those
are
the
two
concerns
we
made
in
the
findings
and
that
was
in
the
stat
board
as
well.
D
And
I
I
probably
should
follow
up
on
that,
just
just
to
be
clear
on
on
what
you're,
referring
to
there,
mr
kearns,
when
we
as
planning
commissioners
grant
a
special
use
permit.
There
are
five
tests
that
we
apply
and
three
of
them
are
not
in
question,
but
two
of
them
are
one
is
compatibility
with
surrounding
uses,
and
one
is
parking
is
that
is
that
a
fair
statement.
A
F
Okay,
okay
and-
and
you
mentioned
that
they
were
doing-
you
had
two
comments-
that
they
were
doing
some
extra
social
events
that
hadn't
been
noted
before,
and
then
you
also
said
that
they
weren't
in
the
parking
study.
What
was
it?
The
whole
business
wasn't
put
in
the
parking
study,
or
was
it
just
these
extra
social
things
that
were
not
in
the
study?
You
know.
J
They
were
included
in
the
parking
study
as
one
of
the
industrial
uses.
What
wasn't
included
were-
and
I
I
found
out
by
calling
them
you
know-
I
saw
something
on
a
website
where
they
mentioned
about
having
this
social
club,
which
are
really
for
members
that
have
their
cars
parked
there
and
just
a
place
where
they
they
can
hang
out
and
then
also
on
saturdays.
J
They
were
having
like
infrequent
events
where
they
take
all
the
cars
out
from
the
building
and
park
them
in
the
parking
lot
and
have
coffee
and
walk
around
and
talk
to
each
other.
Those
things
were
not
whether
or
not
they
would
create
a
big
impact.
We
don't
know,
but
it's
just
one
another
part
of
the
whole
picture
that
we
feel
is
a
little
bit
unknown.
F
J
J
I
haven't
heard
any
comments
lately.
I
know
the
applicant's
been
they've
probably
had
people
parking
along
the
street
and
they
they
have
the
van
to
bring
the
kids
over
and
they're
probably
parking
a
lot
over.
On
the
other
side
staff
did
ask
about.
You
know
we
we
wanted
to
study
of
what's
happening
at
the
school
site.
You
know
because
we
don't
want
to
create
a
parking
problem
at
that
site
either,
but
I
was
told
that
they
only
need
six
parking
spaces
there,
because
the
whole
building
is
empty,
except
for
them.
I
Of
course,
you
have
to
do
it
at
least
once
per
meeting
right,
so
for
my
own
edification,
in
being
that
I
work
elsewhere
and
and
not
familiar
with
all
the
zoning
but
and
for
the
viewers
as
well.
What
constitutes
the
m1
zone
aside
from
industrial
park,
I
mean
what
what
uses
are
allowed
as
a
result
of
that
zoning
or
in
that
zoning.
J
J
Right
hospitals
are
not
permitted
in
you
know.
In
a
industrial
area
I
mean
in
our
city,
we
have
them,
you
know,
that's
also
a
pl
zone
playgrounds.
You
know,
I
mean
a
lot
of
cities,
just
don't
allow
sensitive
uses
in
an
industrial
area,
but
there
are.
There
are
cases
where
it's
okay,
when
you
know
it's
demonstrated
that
there
won't
be
any
problems
that
you
know.
I
J
I
J
J
E
You,
chairperson,
I
only
have
a
few
questions
since
my
commissioners
did
such
a
good
job
getting
all
the
ones
I
had
ready
to
ask
out
of
the
way
miss
young.
The
only
follow-up
I
had
is
again
kind
of
what
commissioner
newman
was
focusing
on.
I
know
we
were
looking
at
pictures
from
instagram
and
other
social
medias
did
did
somebody.
It
sounds
like
somebody
from
the
city
staff
went
into
the
facility
to
see
something.
Is
that
correct.
L
E
Yes,
so,
yes,
there
were
many
situations
in
which
staff
went
out
there,
whether
to
ex
based
on
complaints
that
we
received
to
see
if
there
was
operation
happening
again,
because
they
don't
have
a
permit
to
operate
at
this
time.
So
it
was
to
you're
going
to
establish
that
there
was
operations
even
going
on
and
then
with
cobit.
There
were
concerns
and
complaints
received
regarding
a
gym
being
operated
during
covid
and
so
again,
staff
again
how
the
county
worked
with
health
orders
would
be
that
city
staff,
for
example.
E
The
thousand
notes
would
actually
be
the
initial
investigator
for
the
county
and
then
report
to
the
county
and
have
the
county
review
it
and
make
decisions
on
issuing
orders.
So
that
was
done,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
in
this
case,
issue
orders
were
issued
to
stop
operating
due
to
code
concerns,
so
those
two
things
have
happened.
So
there
were
observations
made
by
staff
and,
as
ms
young
stated,
we
do
have
co-compliance
officers
if,
if
needed,
to
discuss
again
basic
observations
that
they
made
during
their
times
out
there.
E
B
Most
of
just
were
follow-ups
from
the
complaints
that
we
received
from
the
citizens
that
jim
was
operating
out
of
the
visits
that
I
did.
I
did
go
inside
witness
adults
working
out
inside
and
a
lot
of
my
exterior
observations
were
of
youth
being
dropped
off
between
the
school
and
the
gym
and
also
working
out
inside
the
gym
portion.
E
B
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Lanson
all
right.
Everybody
asked
a
lot
of
good
questions,
so
let
me
see
what
I
got
here.
I
want
to
follow
up
on
commissioner
link's
question
about
m1
scope.
We
talked
a
lot
about
industrial
warehousing
uses.
My
question
is:
do
churches,
social
clubs
and
batting
cages
fall
into
that
m1
designation
because
all
three
of
those
things
either
currently
exist
or
have
existed
at
that
address.
J
A
Okay:
okay,
that's
good
enough
all
right!
Okay,
then.
The
other
question
I've
got
is:
is
the
tutoring
center
that's
not
located
on
site
correct!
I'm
understanding
this
correctly.
That
tutoring
center
is
at
a
separate
location
where
kids
are
being
shuttled
back
and
forth.
Is
that
at
an
m1
site,
because
they
hear
a
lot
of
people
asking
about
this
facility
and
about
children
being
learning
at
a
tutoring
facility
at
an
m1
location?
A
N
A
J
J
N
I
can
clarify
a
tutoring
center
in
itself
has
been
interpreted
via
our
code
to
be
allowed.
Wherever
training
is
allowed,
training
facilities
are
allowed
this
originally,
when
future
elite
came
in,
they
had
a
classroom,
use
a
school
use
within
their
existing
tenant
space.
We
advise
them
at
that
point
that
they
could
not
have
a
school
in
the
m1
zone.
Subsequently,
they
got
a
business
license
at
the
yoga
works
location
for
a
tutoring
center
copy
that
okay,
that.
A
I
was
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
how
they've
got
two
different
facilities,
different
businesses,
so
I
I
do
also
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
this
business
currently
exists
and
is
currently
in
operation,
despite
the
fact
that
we're
discussing
whether
or
not
they
should
allow
be
allowed
to
be
in
operation.
That's
correct!
Right,
yes,
and
this
business
also
was
responsible
for
the
denial
of
another
business
next
door
that
was
reviewed
by
the
city
council
is
what
you're
telling
me.
E
A
Or
may
not,
they
may
not
have
any
any
responsibility
for
that,
but
they
were
there
as
an
existing
business
and
representative
of
the
business
community.
Here
saying
that
they
did
not
want
that
business
present,
despite
the
fact
that
they
were
operating
currently
without
city
permission,
essentially
right.
E
Well,
as
stated
earlier,
when
I
brought
up
the
leap
dispensary
issue,
it
was
because,
during
that
opposition
that
they
expressed,
they
mentioned
that
they
were
going
to
operate
this
gym
and
training
facility,
and
this
unique
type
of
business
that
they
were
presenting
to
this,
and
that's
how
we
got
into
wait
a
second.
What
are
you
actually
doing
at
this
location
or
where
you're
proposing
and
that's
how
we
started
this
whole
process
with
sup
application.
A
A
D
J
N
If
I
could
add
into
here,
this
is
jeff
ware
billing
services,
division
manager.
There
were
actually
no
building
inspections
conducted
at
this
property
on
the
existing
issued
billing
permit.
The
inspections
that
were
being
conducted
were
twofold.
Initially,
it
was
because
we
received
complaints
that
building
improvements
were
being
conducted
without
a
permit.
That
was
the
initial
one
that
eventually
resulted
in
the
issuance
of
a
stop
work
order,
while
the
permit
process
was
moving
forward.
D
Okay,
I
was
actually
asking
a
slightly
different
question,
which
is
whether
it's
customary
for
city
staff,
either
code
compliance
or
planning
staff
to
go
on
site
to
a
location.
In
the
case
of
code
compliance,
it's
customary,
isn't
it
for
city
staff
to
to
go
on
site
if
there
are
complaints,
received,
correct,
okay
and
then
same
question
for
planning
staff.
If
an
application
is
under
review,
is
it
customary
for
city
staff,
maybe
not
a
hundred
percent
of
cases,
but
in
some
or
many
cases,
to
go
on
site
to
inspect
a
site.
D
A
Thank
you
vice
chair
newman.
So
now
we
will
be
moving
on
to
the
applicant's
representative
to
speak.
You
have
15
minutes
to
speak.
Please
state
your
name
and
city
of
residence
for
the
record.
I
believe
that
representing
the
applicant
will
be
mark
sellers
march
I'll,
as
you
have
the
floor,
sir,
and
if
you
can
unmute
yourself.
K
K
A
while
ago,
the
applicant
signed
a
five-year
lease
went
in
to
get
tenant
improvements
to
the
city,
finance,
building
safety,
counter
they
were
approved,
they
were
permits
for
issued
and
then
he
asked
were
any
other
permits
needed
for
what
I
want
to
do,
the
sports
training
facility,
and
he
was
just
the
owner
person
no
now.
Unfortunately,
a
lot
of
people
take
what
counter
people
say
as
god,
but
and
he's
thinking
that
he
had
all
the
permits
needed
to
open
and
operate
sports
training
facility.
K
A
A
B
A
A
A
At
this
point,
does
anybody
have
a
contact
phone
number
from
mr
sellers?
I
think
that
we
should
recess
for
10
minutes
see
if
we
can
establish
a
connection
with
mr
sellers.
That's
useful
and
and
then
continue
the
meeting.
If
that's
okay
with
everybody,
please
all
right.
Let's
do
that!
We're
going
to
go
ahead
and
recess
for
10
minutes,
we
will
be
back
at
17..
In
the
meantime,
we'll
try
to.
A
L
L
A
A
A
K
All
right,
I
hope
everybody
can
hear
me
now-
I'm
sorry
about
that.
I
was
just
pointing
out
that
the
applicant
has
never
operated
one
of
these
facilities
before
the
applicant
is
new.
In
this
kind
of
use,
the
applicant
went
down
in
the
building
and
safety.
Actually,
first,
the
applicant
signed
a
five-year
lease
went
down
to
building
and
safety
and
said
I
want
to
do
some
tenant
improvements.
K
He
got
those
tenant
improvement
permits
for
those
tenant
improvements
approved
and
he
asked.
Is
there
any
other
permit
that
I
need
to
operate
this
training
facility?
He
was
told
over
the
counter.
No,
there
wasn't
that's
it.
He
probably
shouldn't
have
relied
on
the
representation
from
somebody
in
building
safety
over
the
counter,
but
he
did
and
went
back
and
started
on
the
tenant
improvements,
and
then
they
suddenly
discovered
that
the
property
next
door
was
going
to
be
a
cannabis
dispensary.
K
K
He
knew
that
it
was
either
the
cannabis
has
to
move
or
I'm
losing
my
lease.
I
don't
have
a
business.
We
went
to
the
city
council,
the
city
council
basically
said
we
want
to
see
something
for
our
kids
and
the
cannabis.
Business
can
go,
find
another
location
and
that's
was
the
first
time
anybody
ever
mentioned.
You
need
a
special
use
permit
or
we
think
you
need.
L
K
Special
use
for
it,
it
wasn't
even
a
firm
conviction
from
the
planning
director
and
just
a
little
bit
of
history.
I
represented
billy
miller
billy
miller
was
a
football
star
at
westlake,
high
school
went
to
usc
and
was
an
all-american
there
and
then
went
on
to
the
new
orleans
saints
billy
came
to
me
and
said:
I
want
to
open
up
a
sports
training
facility
in
the
same
industrial
zone
just
down
the
street.
K
I
then
called
the
planning
director
john
prescott
sat
down
with
him,
and
we
realized
that
this
was
not
a
gym.
This
is
an
appointment
only
facility
that
this
would
only
have
a
limited
number
of
attendees
on
a
daily
basis,
and
mr
prescott
agreed
that
we'll
just
do
a
deed
restriction
and
just
say
you
can't
have
more
than
30
people
at
a
time.
It's
got
to
be
appointment
only
and
it's
not
going
to
be
unlimited
membership
and
that's
how
billy
miller
opened
his
facility
in
the
same
zone
and
operated
for
many
years
without
any
problem.
K
So
this
special
use
permit
for
this
kind
of
specialized
use
was
a
complete
surprise
to
us,
and
we
think
that
it's
really
not
a
gym
because
of
that
focused
use.
We,
however,
apply
for
the
special
use
permit.
We
hired
walker
and
consultants
to
do
a
shared
parking
study,
and
that
came
back
that
basically
said
the
peak
hour.
You
need
23
spaces
and
also,
at
the
same
time,
under
the
lease
with
the
landlord,
we
had
the
right
to
use
24
spaces.
J
K
Get
people
there
which
don't
need
to
park,
they
can
drop
off
their
athletes
and
leave
so
the
real
impacts
on
that
center
are
minimal,
and
I
can't
think
of
having
a
better
neighbor
than
a
church.
That's
closed
almost
every
day
and
peak
is
on
sunday
when
my
clients
operations
are
closed,
so
it
seems
to
be
a
situation
that
works
out
well
and
what
I
really
feel
is
going
to
be.
K
The
control
here
is
the
landlord
there
who
manages
all
the
uses
who
manages
all
the
parking
is
a
very
tough
smart
businessman
and
he's
represented
by
tough
legal
counsel.
I've
already
experienced
that
and
if
the
future
elite
ever
causes
a
problem
with
parking
by
impacting
the
other
tenants
that
landlord
is
going
to
determine
that
that
bring
an
action
to
terminate
that
lease.
K
J
K
Classes
and
basically
the
scope
of
the
operation
to
that
that
was
set
forth
in
the
parking
study
and
we're
willing
to
accept
those
and
go
on
with
that,
and
just
basically
try
to
get
something.
That's
good
for
the
kids.
This
has
been
an
awful
time
for
businesses.
I
have
a
lot
of
tenants
that
I've
gone
out
of
business
and
it's
something
that
I
think
the
city
ought
to
be
trying
to
encourage
and
help
this
applicant
and
provide
a
little
flexibility
here
rather
than
some
of
these
rigid
numbers.
O
O
Hi
everybody
thank
you
so
much
for
allowing
us
an
opportunity
to
speak.
It's
been
a
long
time
coming.
I
want
to
thank
lori
young
specifically
for
the
last
15
months
of
all
the
back
and
forth,
and
everything
that
we've
had
to
go
through
with
lori.
It
has
not
been
an
easy
time.
It's
not
been
an
easy
time
for
us
either.
The
future
lead
academy
that
time
where
it
became
difficult
started.
O
15
months
ago
I
signed
my
lease
on
11
1
of
2019
as
a
is
a
youth
training
center,
which
was
exactly
what
it
was
filed
with
the
state
government
of
california
and
the
federal
government
as
part
and
my
ppm
private
placement
memorandum,
for
my
investors
is
a
youth
training
center
and
a
tutorial
academy.
That
was
also
explained.
O
We
went
to
the
city
to
get
our
permits,
but
let
me
back
up
to
really
where
this
story
begins,
and
I
don't
want
to
take
a
lot
of
time
on
this,
because
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
time,
I'm
hoping
to
answer
questions
at
the
end.
I
was
informed
after
I
signed
my
lease
that
I
knew
that
my
neighbor
was
signed
after
me
was
going
to
be
a
dispensary.
O
I
found
that
out
after
I
had
already
signed
mine
a
month
and
a
half
later
that
that
was
going
to
go
to
city
council
six
months
later.
The
issue
we
had
at
that
point
is
that
becoming
became
somewhat
of
a
battle.
At
that
point,
we
went
to
the
city
never
being
in
this
business.
Before
my
nephew
brock
tybin
went
to
the
city
city
to
the
meet
to
the
to
the
counter,
with
dan
garcia,
our
general
contractor
and
applied
for
the
application
to
get
our
the
bill
done
when
we
asked
them
specifically.
O
Do
we
need
an
sup?
What
do
we
need?
No,
this
is
all
you
need.
They
stamped
our
plans
and
we
went
to
work
and
then
the
battle
started.
I
can
probably
guarantee
that
all
the
complaints
for
our
construction
or
whatever
it
was
came
from
leaf
dispensary
next
door,
because
we
knew
the
battle
was
coming
then
covet
hit.
O
I
was
in
construction
for
four
months
up
until
april
27th
when
they
held
the
city
council
meeting
during
the
lockdown,
so
we
were
forced
to
go
to
a
city
council
meeting
during
a
lockdown
when
nobody
was
going
to
be
able.
The
surrounding
neighbors
could
not
review
the
the
the
information
that
leaf
dispensary
was
trying
to
open.
We
went
in
there,
we
presented
our
case
and
at
that
point
it
was
brought
to
our
attention.
Did
you
have
an
suv-
and
I
said
it
that
many?
What
are
you
talking
about?
O
Did
no,
we
do
not
have
an
sup.
I
think
I'm
on
record
as
saying
that
day
as
if
we
will
leave
this
meeting,
and
I
will
do
whatever
it
takes
to
work
with
the
city.
I
will
be
a
good
partner.
Whatever
you
need
me
to
do,
I
will
go.
Do
I
promise
you
that
and
then
for
the
next
30
days
after
that,
they
decided
leaf,
was
not
a
suitable
tenant
for
the
next
30
days.
We
over
and
over
reached
out
to
the
city,
did
not
hear
back
from
the
city
until
6
30.
on
6
3.
O
We
were
told
that
we
needed
an
issue.
We,
the
information
that
we
needed
for
an
sup
final.
We
went
ahead
and
filed
that.
Let
me
back
up
dan
garcia,
who
did
the
work
according
to
the
plans
that
were
stamped
by
the
city
under
what
we
expected,
we
thought
was
correct
was
then
I
I'm
not
in
construction,
I'm
I'm
in
the
sales,
business
and
building
brands
and
creating
a
a
place
for
youth
to
be
to
change
their
lives.
That's
what
I
do.
It
was
informed
to
me.
O
O
We
were
told
from
the
day
the
city
council
meeting
was
adjourned
all
the
way
through
may
and
june.
Nearly
every
single
day,
the
city
received
a
call
that
we
were
doing
something
intercorrect
for
coven
or
out
of
compliance,
and
we,
through
the
grapevine
heard
that
that
was
leaf
dispensary
over
and
over
and
over
again
and
tonight,
rory
young
said
something
to
the
effect
that
that
she
hasn't
heard
from
anybody
in
forever
a
long
time.
O
Well
from
what
I
understand,
they
found
another
location,
so
she
hasn't
heard
any
complaints
about
us
in
months,
but
it's
really
odd
that
it
was
all
back.
Then
I'm
not
blaming
anybody
or
casting
any
doubt,
because
I
do
want
to
say
this.
We
made
a
lot
of
mistakes
early
on.
We
made
some
critical
errors
in
trusting
this
person
at
the
counter.
I
made
critical
errors
in
trusting
the
gc
to
do
his
job
correctly
and
those
were
critical
errors
on
our
part.
So
I
will
take
responsibility
for
that.
O
What
ended
up
happening
in
september
is
our
sup
was
taken
off
the
table
because
they
were
saying
that
we
were
not
compliant
with
government.
We
were
not
that
are
that
we
didn't
have
our
plans
of
permit
stamped
and
signed
off,
and
the
inspection
was
fraudulently
made
up,
which
was
absolutely
ridiculous.
O
When
I
found
out
dan
garcia,
my
gc
handed
me
the
inspection,
the
inspection
report
had
a
name
on
it.
We
sent
it
to
ann
the
co-compliance
officer
and
I
have
an
email
back
from
her
that
says
got
it.
Thank
you
never
heard
another
word
again,
I'm
under
the
impression
everything's
fine,
everything's
good.
Then
I
find
out
that
nobody
in
the
city
has
ever
even
seen
this
document
before
never
signed
it.
O
My
gc,
when
I
asked
about
it,
I
have
not
heard
from
him
since
I
can't
find
him
so
I
fired
him
and
I
fired
three
people
associated
with
that
project
at
that
time,
and
I
raised
got
ready.
I
hired
new
people
to
come
in,
create
new
plans
and
create
a
new,
a
new
sup
filing
with
new
parking
report
per
the
cities
requested
me
to
do,
and
I
even
have
maybe
15
or
20
emails
to
the
city.
O
Clearly
asking
we
want
to
work
with
you,
please
come
meet
with
us.
I
asked
patrick
air
here.
Sorry,
please,
take
a
look
at
please
come
meet
with
us.
Let's
sit
down
at
your
office,
I
want
to
just
show
you
what
we're
doing
we
want
to
create
a
good
environment
for
the
city.
Please
give
this
opportunity
to
us
months.
We
go
by
no
response
to
10
days,
no
response.
Finally,
patrick
said
we
can't
meet
with
you,
because
the
city
is
closed
down.
O
O
We
were
changing
as
we
went
forward
with
the
business
to
try
and
accommodate
all
the
negative
remarks
and
things
that
had
happened,
we're
trying
to
change
it
all
well,
at
the
same
time,
you
go
back
to
some
things
that
laurie
said
here
that
and
let
me
just
go
back.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
time
left
and
I
hope
I
can
keep
talking,
because
this
is
very,
very
critical
to
saving
lives
and
the
kids
that
we're
involved
with
right
now.
So
I
hope
you
allow
me
to
do
that.
O
The
reality
of
it
is
this
business
model.
We
are
not
a
school.
The
sup
staff
report
is
littered
with
inconsistencies
and
assumptions,
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
this:
we
are
not
a
school,
we
are
not
a
gym.
We
are
a
private
training
facility
that
is
not
open
to
the
general
public.
We
are
not
a
school.
O
O
O
We
are
a
training,
a
training
center
for
kids,
youth
and
pro
athletes,
private
training
with
private,
with
private
individuals
we
are,
and
then
the
tutorial
academy
is
just
that.
It's
a
hybrid
kids
come
in
with
their
own
laptops.
They
open
up
their
own,
their
own
curriculum
on
a
lighting
academy
or
whoever
else
their
private.
Their
online
school
is
if
they
have
a
question.
D
O
A
L
D
We
have
some
things
that
there
are
things
that
we
agree
on
mutually
we're
both
pro-education
we're
both
definitely
pro-sports,
so
you've
got
some
agreement
on
there.
This
is
not
the
question,
or
these
are
not
the
questions
before
us.
This
is
the
questions
are
whether
the
sup
application
meets
the
five
tests
that
are
that
that
were
required
to
consider
to
grant
the
application,
and
I've
got
a
few
questions
about
that
application.
D
First,
off
the
marketing
materials
from
future
elite
academy
that
were
shown
this
evening
made
references
to
the
word
high
school
made
references
to
core
curriculum,
math,
english
science
and
social
studies
and
those
those
terms
particularly
high
school,
sound,
an
awful
lot
like
school
to
me.
So
the
question
is:
what's
the
difference
between
tutoring
and
school.
O
O
As
I
stated
in
my
in
my
private
placement
memorandums
and
my
filings
with
the
state
and
my
violence
with
the
government
on
a
federal
level,
it
doesn't
even
state
that
we're
in
school.
So
let
me
answer
this
just
specifically
about
the
marketing.
The
marketing
is
very
clear.
Okay,
that
we,
if
you
go
to
my
website
right
now,
you'll
even
see
it
says
in
lightroom
academy,
on
it
the
ibm
is
the
school
provider
that
we
offer
people
if
they
want
to
be
involved
in
it.
O
O
Now
the
high
school
thing
so
we
haven't,
we
will
never
be
in
the
high
school
space
ever.
That
is
not
our
space.
Our
niche
is
seventh,
eighth
and
eighth
grade
reclassification.
Now.
What
we
I
think
that
might
have
been
a
little
misunderstanding
there
about
high
school
and
that
it
was
read
incorrectly.
I
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
at.
I
don't
remember
that
marketing
piece
the.
O
I'd
have
to
take
a
look
at
that
again
because
we
have
no
intention
of
being
a
high
school
ever
and
we
have
no
accreditation
to
do
so
in
any
way
whatsoever,
and
I
don't
think
that
that
piece
of
marketing
material
states
that
that's
what
we're
going
to
do.
But
I'll
have
to
take
a
look
at
that
now.
To
answer
your
other
question,
which
was
I'm
sorry
going
back
to
your
other
question
about
the
marketing?
Oh
they're
always
going
to
be
the
core
curriculum.
H
O
Sure
sure
so
we
again,
I
cannot
provide
classes,
I
cannot
provide
school.
We
do
not
do
that.
It's
a
and
lighting
academy
in
lighting
and
laurel
springs
are
a
high
level
online
platform.
You
have
to
pay
for
just
like.
If
you
took
your
online
classes
from
oaks,
christian
or
whoever
it
is
that's
their
school,
that's
where
they
go
to
school
every
day,
and
I
at
the
at
the
deep
space
learning
center,
there's
tutors
that
are
there
to
answer
questions.
O
If
the
student
has
a
question
in
their
school,
just
like
there's
no
difference
between
going
to
west
lake
high
school
and
you're
in
that
school
and
there's
a
tutor
that
can
help
you,
that's
the
tutoring
service.
We
do
not
provide
school,
we're
not
accredited
to
be
a
school,
we'll,
never
be
a
school,
that's
not
part
of
our
business
plan.
So
so
this
whole
thing
that
we're
running
a
school
we're
not
we're
running
a
tutorial
service
that
has
a
training
element
with
a
training
element.
O
The
reality
is
and
to
answer
that
question
you
know
we
have
our
student
athletes
that
we
pick
up
in
south
central
lla
and
we
bring
them
out
here
because
they
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
to
those
about.
30
kids
did
not
have
an
opportunity
to
have
school
this
year.
They
didn't
have
any
opportunity
for
a
place
to
go
in
a
place
because
they
don't
even
have
wi-fi,
and
these
are
elite
athletes.
D
O
And
let
me
let
me
just
also
include
this
with
that.
We
have
been
put
in
a
horrible
position
with
this
whole
thing
that
we
feel
from
the
city.
We
got
blocked
on
september
from
submitting
plans.
We
were
not
allowed
to
submit
any
new
plans.
We
were
blocked.
One
side
said
that
you
need
an
sup
and
the
other
side
said
you
can't
get
permits
until
you
have
an
sup
sup
side
said
you
can't
get
an
stp,
so
you
have
the
permits.
O
Permit
side
said
you
can't
get
an
sp
enlist
or
permits
until
you
get
an
suv
and
we'll
shut
down
blocked
for
trying
to
submit
anything
that
went
on
for
months,
so
we
were
put
in
a
position
in
the
middle
of
a
covey
pandemic
and
I'm
now
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
later
in
this
project,
and
we
have
been
put
off
and
put
off
and
put
off
and
put
off
and
put
off,
and
the
communication
has
been
very
relaxed.
Okay,.
D
We
receive
a
new
set
of
plans
that
I
presume
are
different
and
my
question
to
you
is
the
following:
is
it
your
preference
that
we
instead
look
at
the
current
plans,
which
we're
really
not
permitted
to
do
at
this
evening's
hearings,
because
they're
not
part
of
this
hearing,
because
that
that
would
open
the
door
to
continuing
this
hearing
to
some
later
need
or
are
the
plans
that
were
previously
submitted?
The
correctness.
O
A
A
D
Hold
on
just
a
moment,
sir,
let's,
let's
be
clear,
there
was
a
set
of
friends
submitted
by
the
applicant
on
your
business
city.
Staff
went
through
them
for
weeks
and
planning
commission
by
law
has
to
get
them.
I
think
it's
72
hours
prior
to
public
hearing
by
practice
it's
longer
than
that,
it's
five
days
before
public
hearing.
D
So
it
sounds
like
what
we've
all
got
reviewed
for
days
last
weeks
is
different
than
what
the
applicant
would
like
us
to
review,
and
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
on
there's
a
there's
a
disconnect
there
we
will.
We
will
make
a
determination
with
with
in
consultation
with
you
as
the
applicant,
whether
we
should
continue
this
hearing
to
a
date
sooner
future
date
or
have
an
up
and
down
vote
on
the
application
before
us.
But
let
me
be
very
clear
on
this
point.
D
E
If
you
were
to
approve
the
stock,
this
project,
you
would
have
to
accept,
they
would
accept
those
conditions,
so
the
issue
again
is
raised
that
if
we
do
not
have
the
current
plans,
the
planning
commission
has
no
authority
right
now
to
approve
the
current
set
of
plans
that
they,
if
mr
the
applicant,
is
actually
if
the
applicant
is
actually
saying
that
this
is
the
plan
today.
The
ones
that
were
submitted
half
an
hour
ago
are
the
ones
that
they
want.
E
Okay,
that
is
that
is
important
for
all
of
you
as
commissioners
to
understand
that
you
don't
have
authority
to
do
that.
The
other
concern
is-
and
I
appreciate
the
applicant's
comments
about
this-
is
that
staff
again
goes
back
to.
I
think
mr
miss
young
actually
said
it
a
few
hour
or
so
ago
where
she
said
in
march
end
of
march.
We
received
a
set
of
plans
and
from
an
architect,
and
we
asked
what
were
these
plans
about
and
they
said
that
was
a
mistake.
E
Ignore
that
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
is
because
we
were
gonna,
have
to
continue
the
hearing
anyway,
because
we
had
those
new
plans,
we're
gonna
have
to
review
those.
So
that
is
concern
I
have
for
you
tonight
once
I
heard
mr
brett,
I'm
sorry,
mr
harrison
state
that
tonight,
as
mr
newman
brought
out.
These
are
the
plans
we
want
submitted.
E
I
think
it
goes
back
to
the
option
that
that
we
presented
earlier
that
mr
newman
clarified
with
me,
and
that
is
you
either
ask
for
continuance
and
it
can
be
do
a
date,
certainly
or
just
we
can
reset
the
hearing.
It
doesn't
either
one
or
we
go
forward
with
what
the
plans
are
that
were
reviewed
a
long
time
ago,
and
that's
where
we
get
the
concern
is
that,
what's
you
know,
I
don't
know
what
those
plans
are
today
I
haven't
seen
them.
E
I
know
staff
hasn't
seen
or
if
they
have,
they
need
to
do
that
analysis
to
ensure
that
whatever
they
are
they're,
they
can
be
presented
to
you
with
with
information.
So
you
can
make
a
decision
so,
unfortunately,
tonight
you
can't
make
a
decision
on
on
the
plans
that
they
want
you
to
understand
and
my
then
my
concern
is,
if
you
were
to
approve
this
project.
The
conditions
are
based
on
the
old
set
of
plans,
which
we
go
back
into
a
circular
situation
that
we
have,
and
so
again
I'm
just
providing
that
information.
E
So
again,
my
recommendation
would
be
to
ask
for
the
continuance
now
and
the
only
reason.
Why
is
because
I
don't
know
the
questions
you
have.
I
don't
know
if
those
questions
are
going
to
be
changed
based
on
the
information
that's
presented
when
we
have
the
new
plans
that
they
want
us
to
review.
So
those
are
the
two
critical
things.
There
are
many
other
things.
E
I
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
signed
up
tonight
to
speak,
and
I
understand
that
as
well,
so
I
don't
say
this
lightly
other
than
if
the
applicant
wants
you
to
look
at
those
new
plans.
You
cannot
right
now
approve
those
plans
because
you
haven't
seen
them
and
it's
not
appropriate
for
you
to
rule
on
those
kind
of
plans,
and
so
that's
literally
the
basic
element.
E
I
know
we
talked
about
school
and
all
that,
but
the
the
biggest
issue
is
the
parking
for
the
site
and
the
use
of
the
site
that
has
been
going
on
in
staff's
opinion
and
and
and
from
this
information.
But
again,
I
think,
if
they're
really
going
to
go
forward
with
this,
with
the
set
of
times
that
they
want
right
now.
I
I
think
we
would.
I
don't.
I
don't
see
the
value
of
continuing
it,
but
that's
again,
for
you
guys
consider
I'm
just
giving
you
the
information
in
my
recommendation
based
on
this
new
statement.
D
D
E
And
it's
important
to
note
chair
bus
that
they
have
to
one
obviously
agree
to
the
continuance.
I
don't
think
we
can
do
a
date,
certainly
because
I
don't
know
for
staff.
I
can't
speak
for
staff,
but
I
don't
know
what
the
plans
mean.
So
I
would
hate
to
say:
oh,
let's
go
to
a
date,
certainly
because
we
just
don't
know
that
all
right,
we'll
consult
with.
E
Again,
my
thought
would
be
to
continue
it
to
a
time
that
immediately
year
about
time
with
with
the
applicant,
if
that's
what
the
position
is-
and
the
final
thing
is
based
upon
this
applicant's
statement
tonight,
I
would
recommend
that
they
officially
state
that
they
are
withdrawing
the
old
plans.
So
we
don't
have
that.
O
O
K
K
A
O
I
think
I
think
I
might
just
I
think
that
I'm
willing
to
move
forward
with
this
planning
commission
hearing
tonight.
You
know
our
these
kids
lives
depend
on
it.
My
staff,
my
employees,
lives,
depend
on
it
and
the
reality
of
it
is
the.
The
modifications
to
the
plans
are
extremely
minor
and
they
were
really
just
you
know
corrected
so
that
I
could
get.
O
I
can
try
to
deliver
those
to
the
city
and
get
the
permits
stamped
and
ready
to
go,
and
we
can
get
them
to
the
place
for
inspections,
and
that
was
the
biggest
thing
for
me
tonight.
We're
an
open
door.
I
just
want.
I
just
want
to
work
with
the
city.
I
want
you
guys
in
our
place,
tell
us
what
we
need
to
do.
I've
been
saying.
A
D
A
D
D
That
that
indicated
that
that
permits
or
that
building
inspectors
had
signed
off
on
electricity
and
plumbing,
for
which
permits
had
previously
been
pulled
and
for
a
mechanical
which
had
never
been
applied
for
and
the
city
staff
testified
that
it
checked
with
all
of
the
city's
building
inspectors,
and
none
of
them
had
signed
off
on
this.
So
my
question
is:
where
did
these
phantom
signatures
come
from?.
O
So
dan
garcia,
who
is
our
gc,
who
I
am
happy
to
give
his
contact
information
to
the
city?
He
is
the
one
that
took
care
of
this.
He
did
the
inspection
he.
What
I
was
told
was
he
had
somebody
come
in.
Did
the
inspection
gave
us?
The
inspection
gave
me
the
inspection
report.
When
I
came
back
from
out
of
town,
I
was
out
of
town
at
the
time
my
nephew
brock
tybin,
who
was
running
this
operation,
who
no
longer
works
for
the
company
was
working
with
dan,
garcia
dan
garcia
brought.
O
O
O
The
gentleman
that
came
into
the
facility
and
said
that
he
was
the
building
inspector
that
had
a
yellow,
vest
on
and
so
and
I
wasn't
there
so
this
is
secondhand
information
for
me,
so
dan
garcia,
you're
happy
to
call,
and
he
he
tells
me
that
absolutely
one
thousand
percent
it
was
inspected
and
it
was
done.
I
since
fired
him
since
I
couldn't
get
it
get
a
get,
a
reasonable
understanding
of
that,
and
I
told
the
city
when
I
heard
from
this
back.
We
didn't
hear
about
this
until
september,
so
I
fired
him
and
my
note.
O
D
E
Chair
bus
excuse
me
just
just
be
clear
because
we
used
unfortunately
used
the
word
continuance
a
couple
of
different
ways.
So
I
just
want
to
have
clarity
that
I
understand
from
the
continuing
questions
from
mr
newman
that
we
are
continuing
with
the
hearing
tonight
and
staying
with
the
old
set
of
plans.
E
O
In
light
of
everything,
that's
gone
on
with
the
city
so
far
and
a
lot
of
misinformation
that
we've
been
given,
I'm
a
little
apprehensive
to
agree
to
old
plans,
and
then
I
go
to
submit
the
new
plans
for
my.
My
new
permits
that
I
have
to
have
to
get
my
current
inspections
and
get
approved
by
city.
Saying
these
don't
match
what
you
were
approved
for.
A
A
A
B
A
E
A
E
Okay,
if
I
make
sure
best
just
to
cut
to
the
chase
here
yeah,
you
know
I
don't
want
to
keep
on
going
back
and
forth.
It's
not
for
me
at
this
time
to
debate
what
the
applicant's
position
is
and
how
the
city
is
reacting
to
it,
because
that's
not
going
to
do
us
any
good
tonight.
What
I
would
say
is
that
it's
very
simple
for
me
that
they
had
plans
that
they
submitted.
E
We
worked.
Staff
worked
on
those
plans
and
that
is
what's
before
you
tonight.
As
stated
earlier,
there
were
news
plans
that
were
submitted
at
the
end
of
march
that
we
asked
about,
and
they
said
forget
those
that
that
was
a
mistake.
Apparently
those
were
not
a
mistake
or
no,
they
haven't
addressed
that
doesn't
matter
the
bottom.
The
bottom
line
is,
is
that
there
are
plans,
staff
has
not
elected
them.
E
Yes,
we're
going
to
be
going
based
on
the
plans
and
we
don't
want
those
plans
changed.
We
want
you
to
make
a
decision
based
on
the
plans
that
they're
representing,
so
that
is
important,
that
we
have
that
clarity,
because,
yes
they're,
the
initial
received
that
we
have
was
a
warehouse
with
a
bathroom
change.
E
That
was
what
we
received
and
that's
when
again
before
leaf
and
we
started
getting
to
leaf,
which
again
is
a
non-issue
except
for
the
fact
that
there
was
a
understanding
that
they
had
a
project
and
now
it
turned
out
to
be
a
gym,
and
so
once
that
happened,
that's
when
all
this
effort
extra
work
goes
into
a
special
use
permit
and
that's
just.
Unfortunately,
those
are
the
factors
that
we
have
tonight.
O
I
just
found
that
out
a
week
later,
when
laura
young
called
me,
she
or
she
sent
an
email
to
me
and
mark
and
said
hey.
Why
did
you
submit
a
new
sgp
file
with
new
plans?
And
I
said
what
are
you
talking
about
and
I
went
I
was
never
cc'd
on
this.
Never
had
anything,
my
architect
sent
them
direct
direct.
I
looked
at
them
and
there
was
some
inconsistencies
with
the
walls
and
a
couple
of
doors
and
two
offices
upstairs.
I
called
laurie
and
I
said
lori.
No,
please
do
not
submit
this.
O
A
F
F
Also,
our
applicant
is
very
unsure
of
where
he
stands,
because
if
we
as
as
I
understand
what
he's
just
said,
if
we
do
approve
this
and
then
he
submits
the
plans
he
wants,
he
doesn't
feel
comfortable
that
he's
going
to
get
the
the
permit
that
he
wants.
So
in
my
mind,
we
have
no
choice
but
to
continue
so
that
everybody
knows
that
we're
all.
On
the
same
page,
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
continue
this
to
a
date
uncertain.
F
O
Man
ma'am.
I
appreciate
that
comment.
Thank
you
so
much,
but
let
me
just
take
that
one
step
further.
I
would
be
okay
with
the
continuance.
If
there
was
some
assurance
that
the
new
plans
that
I'm
going
to
deliver
will
be
accepted
and
looked
at
based
upon
the
decision
making
tonight
as
long
as
there's
no
major
contradictions
to
what
we're
asking.
A
K
L
A
N
N
N
We
do
not
allow
as
a
matter
of
practice
uses
that
are
not
authorized
to
come
in
pretend,
improvement,
work
and
that's
just
that's
just
a
matter
of
practice
and
it's
a
good
practice
just
like
we
don't
we
encourage
people
or
future
tenants
to
not
sign
a
lease
before
they
have
a
permit.
That's
understood.
O
A
E
Yeah
my
recommendation
earlier
was
that
we
do
not
set
a
date
certain
just
because
we
have
to
look
at
the
plans
and
we're
not
going
to
pick
a
date
and
have
the
same
thing
happen
again.
So
again,
my
recommendation
was
to
not
pick
a
date
certain
and
have
it
re-noticed
and
do
with
that
process
to
be
clear,
but
it's
up
to
the
chair
what
they
want
to
do
and
and
we'll
go
and
for
staff
as
well.
But
that's
not
really.
I
mean
it's
really
for
staff
to
make
a
decision
at
the
end
of
the
day,.
D
K
D
I
do
I
I
want
to
concur
with
mr
heer
in
that
we
want
to
give
the
applicant
an
opportunity
to
have
the
plans
in
indeed
the
entire
application
be
the
application
that
the
applicant
wants.
What
we're
hearing
tonight
is
that
the
plan
component
of
the
application
is
not
planned,
that
the
applicant
wants
and
there's
more
flexibility.
D
If
we
go
the
date
uncertain
route
to
give
the
applicant
every
opportunity
to
dot
every
I
cross,
every
t
make
sure
that
all
components
of
the
application,
including
the
plan,
are
the
ones
that
the
applicant
wants
and
by
the
way
we
don't
know
tonight
whether
that
plan
may
be
the
one
that's
already
in
the
application
or
the
one
that
was
just
received
today
or
some
hybrid
of
the
two
in
the
future.
But
by
giving
more
flexibility
of
an
uncertain
date,
the
applicant
has
more
of
a
chance,
in
my
view,
to
get
everything
working
together.
O
So
I'll
address
that
just
very
briefly-
and
I
appreciate
everybody's
patience-
thank
you.
The
issue
is
this.
I
was
told
in
november
we
would
have
our
sup
hearing
in
january
and
it's
now
april,
so
I
would
waited
five
four
four
five
months
and
we
made
a
couple
of
corrections
on
the
plans,
the
plan,
the
business
model
and
what
we're
doing
with
the
business.
H
B
All
right
can
I
clarify
something.
I
also
would
concur
that
we
probably
want
to
do
a
date
uncertain,
because
we
have
to
review
the
plans.
The
analysis
is
based
on
what
the
floor
area
says
and
what
the
zoning
requires,
and
that
leads
to
conditions
of
approval
and,
typically,
what
stat
will
staff
will
do
is
give
the
conditions
of
approval
to
the
applicants
and
their
team
to
look
over
prior
to
them
coming
back
to
playing
commission
and
so
that
we
have
a
consensus
of
whether
or
not
they
agree
with
those
conditions.
O
E
E
So
it's
better
for
you
to
get
everything
and
all
the
ducks
in
a
row
and
bring
the
entire
package
to
us
so
that
we
can
look
at
it.
So
we
don't
have
another
continuance
to
the
extent
that
all
of
a
sudden
there's
changes
or
other
things
that
happen
at
that
point.
So
it's
much
better
idea
to
get
the
uncertainty,
even
though
I
know
you
want
certainty,
but
it
can
know
that
now
we
obviously
are
having
this
process.
E
O
And
I
appreciate
that
and
again
you
know
we
just
want
to
do
this
right.
We
just
want
to
be
a
good
partner
to
the
city.
That's
all
we
want
at
the
end
of
the
day,
so
I
just
want
that
open
line
of
communication
to
be
able
to
deliver
whatever
it
is
that
we
need
to
do
I
just
that's.
We
just
have
to
do
that
and
I
just
I
just
want
to
make
that
really
clear.
You
got
it
then.
A
Mr
harrison
are
you
comfortable
with
an
open-ended?
I
am
okay,
then
I
should
go
ahead
and
continue
this
open-ended
at
this
point.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Mr
harrison,
I
thank
you
very
much
for
the
public
speakers
who
probably
waited
very
patiently
at
this
point.
Your
opinion
is
very
valuable
and
means
a
great
deal
to
us,
and
I
hope
that
you'll
be
back
for
us
when
we
do
revisit
this
this
topic
and
and
give
mr
harrison
his
hearing.
A
A
Right,
I
am
going
to
move
on
now
to
commission
comments
and
ab1234
reports,
so
now's
the
time
for
comments,
santa
ab
1234
reports.
Are
there
any
comments
from
my
fellow
commissioners.
I
saw
everybody
with
their
hand
up
earlier
so
now
you
all
have
time
to
talk.
Who
wants
to
go
first,
commissioner?
Newman.
D
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
I
just
want
to
mention
briefly
that
that
the
chair
and
I
both
attended
planning
commissioner
academy
virtually
the
past
couple
of
weeks
and
I
previously
attended
it.
I
have
to
say,
there's
definitely
something
lost
in
the
virtual
route.
I
missed
meeting
commissioners
from
all
over
the
state
face
to
face,
but
nonetheless
there
were
still
some
very
good
sessions,
including
a
very
good
session
on
current
legislation.
That's
pending
that
may
have
very
significant
impacts
on
housing
here
in
thousand
oaks.
E
A
E
F
A
E
I'll
use
my
usual
time
to
to
advise
we're
now
in
the
orange
tier
with
regard
to
covid.
We
had
over
the
weekend
about
40
infections
per
day,
which
is
is,
is
okay,
it's
it's
more
than
we
had
so
we're
kind
of
going
up
again.
So
again,
please
be
diligent
with
regard
to
wearing
masks
being
social
distance.
Even
if
you
have
your
your
vaccination,
which
is
great,
still
honor
those
things
because
again,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
those
numbers
down
so
that
we
can
do
this
meeting
in
person
pretty
soon.
I
A
Got
it
all
right,
then.
I
also
want
to
follow.
As
commissioner
vice
chair
newman
expressed.
I
attended
a
planning
commission
conference
virtually
this
past
week
or
two
weeks
ago
now,
and
I
am
hopeful
that
the
information
that
I
that
I
gleaned
from
that
meeting
will
aid
me
and
and
with
my
hand,
on
the
tiller
here
as
as
a
member
of
our
planning
commission
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
and
with
that
we'll
move
on
staff.
L
B
Yes,
thank
you
for
announcements.
The
next
general
plan
related
meeting
will
be
a
combined
community
meeting
and
general
plan
advisory
committee
meeting
on
april
21st
to
review
the
preferred
land
use
alternative,
also
a
reminder
that
the
full
schedule
for
the
general
plan,
update
of
upcoming
events,
is
posted
on
the
general
plan
update
website,
which
is
again.
A
B
Yes,
the
next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
april
26th
and
again
it's
going
to
be
the
general
plan
update
team,
bringing
forward
the
preferred
land,
use
alternatives
for
discussion,
comments
and
recommendation
to
the
city
council,
and
that
is
the
last
scheduled
item.
We
have
right
now
for
planning
commission,
but
of
course
we
have
one
that's
being
continued
and
we'll
get
that
back
as
soon
as
we
can.