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B
B
B
And
chair,
if
I
could
ask
mrs
mercelino
to
please
call
a
roll.
C
B
B
Yes
and
I'd
like
to
just
add
that
in
this
case,
victor
hyatt,
commissioner
victor
hayek
is
not
here.
I
should
note
that
he
is
not
able
to
join
us
tonight
because
he
also
has
the
general
plan
advisory
committee,
which
is
also
meeting
tonight.
So
we
thank
him
for
his
service
on
that
committee
and
with
that,
ms
marcelino,
can
you
please
make
the
public
comments
announcement
for
us
tonight.
A
A
A
A
B
Thank
you
very
much,
ms
marcelino.
So
there
are
no
public
comments
and
with
that,
then
we
will
go
directly
to
our
summary
notes
of
march
17
2021
and
that
is
in
your
packet
commissioners,
under
item
five,
and
this
from
what
I
understand
is
simply
a
review
of
our
summary
notes.
No
action
is
required.
B
So
if
you
could
all
just
take
a
minute
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
make
sure
that
those
are
in
in
order
that
you
don't
have
any
chance
any
changes
and
if
there
are
no
comments,
we're
going
to
move
to
item
number
six.
B
The
first
engineers
report
is
to
be
presented
by
our
senior
engineer,
jim
michiko,
and
it
is
our
montgomery
road
traffic
concerns
information
item
report
by
senior
engineer,
jim
ashiko
and
again
I
want
to
remind
everyone.
No
action
is
required
if
it's
okay,
mr
mashinko
I'll,
turn
the
floor
over
to
you.
D
Oh
just
excuse
me
just
inadvertently
hit
the
wrong
button
here.
I
would
have
to
go
back
to
the
share
screen.
D
Okay,
yes,
thank
you,
chair
lemo.
This
is
an
information
item,
as
you
just
mentioned
on
the
recent
traffic
concerns
expressed
by
the
residents
of
montgomery
road
between
aberdeen
and
de
las
flores
to
jans
road.
The
item
was
referred
to
the
traffic
commission
after
a
number
of
residents
recently
shared
their
traffic
concerns
to
staff,
as
well
as
in
emails
to
the
city
council.
D
Here's
a
neighborhood
map
which
points
out
the
segment
of
montgomery
road
that
is
of
interest.
It's
just
over
half
a
mile
in
length,
montgomery
road
serves
as
a
residential
collector
street
as
it
collects
and
finals
traffic
within
the
neighborhoods
interior
streets.
This
road
is
unique
because
it
also
provides
access
to
the
canal
valley.
Adult
school
montgomery
serves
a
neighborhood
that
is
bounded
by
florist
to
the
north
23
freeway
to
the
east,
jans
road
to
the
south
and
more
park
road
to
the
west.
D
This
segment
of
montgomery
has
had
some
level
of
traffic
concerns
for
over
30
years,
so
I'm
going
to
describe
some
of
the
history
and
the
importance
of
neighborhood
support
before
any
significant
traffic
measures
are
implemented.
From
this
point
forward,
the
city
is
not
actively
considering
any
action
at
this
time
and
we
have
not
received
any
petitions
that
demonstrate
the
required
majority
of
the
neighborhood
support
any
alterations
to
neighborhood
traffic
circulation.
D
To
start,
let's
look
at
a
typical
roadway
cross
section
shown
here
the
curve
current
pavement
width
is
28
feet
from
world
curve
to
roll
curve
and
it's
within
a
60
foot
wide
right
away.
This
is
one
of
the
few
city
streets
that
have
qualified
and
approved
for
speed,
humps
to
control,
speeding.
D
Although
speed
is
a
primary
concern,
our
field
studies
have
indicated
that
speed
humps
along
the
street
are
effectively
keeping
the
prevailing
speeds
at
or
below
the
25
mile
per
hour.
Speed
limit
here,
I'm
going
to
share
you
a
series
of
slides
showing
the
various
traffic
controls
set
up
throughout
the
neighborhood
first
off
are
the
speed
humps
on
montgomery
road
installed
in
1989,
there's
10
in
place,
as
I
just
mentioned,
they
are
keeping
most
speeds
at
or
below
25
miles
an
hour
in
1997.
D
And
this
map
is
shows
the
stakeholders
within
the
waverly
heights
neighborhood,
depending
on
the
measures
the
montgomery
road
residents
propose,
traffic
would
be
forced
to
shift
to
other
streets
if
traffic
is
reduced
on
montgomery
over
the
years.
We
have
advised
the
residents
that,
if
they
desire
to
implement
other
forms
of
traffic
control
to
lessen
the
volume
of
traffic
on
their
street,
it
could
impact
traffic
on
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
in
general.
Traffic
measures
to
reduce
traffic
on
one
street
does
not
necessarily
eliminate
a
problem.
D
D
D
D
The
data
shows
23
to
42
of
traffic
on
montgomery
road
are
shortcutters
during
those
four
survey
periods,
here's
a
bar
chart
that
shows
the
history
of
traffic
volume
measurements
dating
back
to
1987
when
the
traffic
volume
levels
were
3
400
vehicles
per
day
after
the
speed
humps
were
installed
in
1989,
the
traffic
was
reduced
to
2300
vehicles
per
day.
D
We
have
a
red
horizontal
line
on
this
chart
to
show
the
roadway
capacity
of
a
typical
residential
street,
which
is
2500
vehicles
per
day
through
2001.
The
traffic
volume
levels
were
below
this
line,
but
in
2006
the
traffic
volume
levels
were
back
to
what
they
were
before
the
speed
humps
were
installed
and
has
held
rather
steady
at
roughly
3
500
vehicles
per
day
through
2016.
D
D
In
2006,
a
group
of
montgomery
road
residents
contacted
staff
regarding
their
concerns
over
traffic
and
speed
and
other
traffic
related
issues,
and
at
that
time
staff
performed
a
number
of
traffic
measurements,
which
I
covered
earlier
and
discussed
a
number
of
engineering
options
to
calm
traffic
along
montgomery
road
which
I'll
get
into
more
detail
shortly.
The
residents
were
advised
that,
to
achieve
their
goal
of
reduced
traffic
volume,
the
residents
would
have
to
obtain
majority
support
from
the
collective
neighborhood
not
strictly
from
the
residents
of
montgomery
road
in
the
form
of
a
petition
that
they
circulated
themselves.
D
The
residents
did
not
obtain
the
support
of
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
to
curb
the
usage
of
montgomery
road.
Ten
years
later
in
2016,
another
group
of
residents
along
montgomery
road
approached
the
city
with
the
same
concerns
expressed
a
decade
earlier.
This
particular
group
hosted
a
neighborhood
meeting
at
the
grant
brim
hall
library
to
express
and
discuss
their
traffic
issues
on
montgomery
the
city
participated.
As
the
residents
presented
a
proposal
to
calm
traffic
to
the
neighborhood,
they
proposed
five
specific
actions,
some
of
which
would
have
to
be
decided
upon
by
the
school
and
park
districts.
D
D
The
decision
to
implement
some
of
the
measures,
such
as
an
alternate
access
point,
would
involve
the
school
and
park
districts.
Each
of
these
measures
have
varying
degrees
of
severity,
the
greater
the
severity,
the
greater
potential
diversion
of
traffic
and
associated
impacts
onto
other
neighborhood,
other
neighborhood
streets
or,
ideally
pushing
traffic
back
to
the
surrounding
arterial
streets.
D
The
city
has
a
policy
on
street
closures,
approved
by
the
city
council
in
1992,
under
resolution
92-167,
and
to
qualify
for
consideration
of
a
street
closure.
A
petition
signed
by
a
minimum
60
percent
of
affected
property
owners
is
needed
to
demonstrate
neighborhood
support
of
the
lead
petitioner's
proposal.
D
If
a
petition
requirement
is
met,
staff
would
then
study
the
location
to
determine
if
the
policies
numerical
criteria
are
met,
as
well
as
look
into
the
legal
and
emergency
response
access
issues
surrounding
the
potential
closure
of
the
street
and
here's
an
example
of
a
street
closure
implemented
on
caye
contento
at
moore
park
road
about
30
years
ago,
which
eliminates
shortcut
traffic
between
moorpark,
road
and
olsen.
Road,
this
location
met
all
the
criteria
of
resolution
92-167.
D
This
design
allows
for
emergency
vehicles
to
drive
through
them
through
the
plastic
vertical
posts
at
the
ends,
and
we
do
have
solid
steel
posts
with
signs
in
the
middle
segment
to
serve
to
close
off
through
traffic.
There
are
occasional
drivers
and
motorcyclists
that
drive
over
or
through
the
plastic
post,
resulting
in
the
need
for
enforcement.
D
D
This
concept
eliminates
the
shortcut
commuter
traffic
flowing
through
the
neighborhood,
yet
still
retains
access
for
local
residents
and
for
the
adult
school
one
closure
would
not
work
alone.
Since
shortcut
traffic
would
simply
divert
to
the
secondary
route.
Closing
off
both
the
primary
and
secondary
routes
to
shortcut
traffic
is
needed
to
eliminate
the
shortcutting
through
the
neighborhood.
D
This
concept
likely
redistributes
neighborhood
traffic
patterns
on
nearly
all
neighborhood
streets,
yet
may
not
create
significant
inconveniences
for
all.
It
would
likely
split
the
neighborhood
in
half,
meaning
that
the
residents
on
the
north
side
would
no
longer
have
access
to
jans,
and
the
residents
on
the
south
side
would
no
longer
have
access
to
flores.
D
D
D
B
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
michenko.
That's
an
excellent
report.
Before
we
move
on
to
speakers
on
this
report.
Do
we
have
any
questions
of
staff
from
our
commissioners.
B
E
E
Maybe
you
can
just
fill
me
in
on
on
exactly
what
the
resolution
92-167
says,
because
it
just
it
seems
like
when
you
have
a
a
traffic
issue
that
has
been
going
on
for
so
long
in
a
city
and
so
long
on
one
particular
street,
and
some
of
the
figures
show
that
at
some
point
up
to
42
percent
of
the
traffic
going
down
montgomery
road
is
a
shortcut
piece
of
traffic.
E
Why
is
it
so
contingent
on
the
neighborhood
to
come
up
with
a
proposed
solution
versus
the
guidance
of
really
the
experts
in
the
room
and
city
staff?
So
maybe
you
could
help
me
just
kind
of
shed
some
light
on
what
that
resolution
says
and
what
are
the
requirements
because
it
just
I
struggle
with
that,
because
these
are
average
neighborhood
residents
that
are
concerned
about
traffic.
That's
that's
that's
what
they
know.
They
know,
there's
an
issue
and
they're
looking
for
guidance
from
the
experts
in
the
room.
As
to
a
solution.
B
B
Is
that
the
reason
that
you
do
need
significant
support
from
the
neighborhood,
regardless
of
the
traffic
issue,
is
for
nothing
else,
the
domino
effect
our
problem
gets
fixed
and
it
becomes
their
problem
or
their
problem,
and
so
for
that
reason
the
resolution
sets
benchmarks
that
need
to
be
achieved
and
by
the
way,
I'm
not
speaking.
B
B
For
example,
there
are
some
streets
that
if
we
were
to
put
in
the
right
mitigations,
we
would
immediately
solve
a
traffic
problem
for
that
street,
but
unfortunately,
the
streets
surrounding
that
street
would
now
gain
a
new
traffic
problem.
With
that,
I,
if
I
haven't
messed
up
your
your
answer
to
your
question,
mr
michiko,
let
me
let
me
stop
my
interrupting
and
get
back
to
you.
D
Okay,
no,
that's
I
think
chair
chair,
limo
you're,
a
hundred
percent
correct.
The
the
street
closure
policy
is
set
up
only
for
our
residential
streets
and
we
have
it
set
up.
It
begins
with
that
petition
process
because
we
do
want
that
neighborhood
support.
Otherwise,
as
chair
alumni
will
describe,
you
just
have
that
domino
effect,
you're
pushing
it
from
point
a
to
point
b
and
then
then
street
b
is
going
to
approach
the
city
saying:
okay,
you
did
street
a
now.
What
about
us?
D
So
that's
why,
in
this
case,
there's
a
lot
of
interior
streets
throughout
that
neighborhood.
I
think
they
all
need
to
be
involved
in
the
process,
and
you
know
it's.
They
should
all
determine
whether
or
not
you
know
changes
in
their
circulation
pattern,
how
they
get
to
the
store,
how
they
get
to.
You
know
all
destinations
that
they're
going
to
to
and
from
you
know
they
should
all
have
a
say
in
the
matter.
E
B
I
don't
know,
quite
frankly,
I'm
very
familiar
with
almost
all
of
the
warrants
necessary.
I
don't
know
if
those
come
from
our
city
or
if
they
come
directly
from
the
state
or
if
it's
a
combination
thereof,
but
I
can
tell
you,
commissioner,
fletcher
virtually
every
traffic
mitigation
that
exists,
ties
to
some
sort
of
warrant
or
standard
that
must
be
met
in
order
to
proceed
to
the
next
step.
B
E
And-
and
I
certainly
understand
and
agree
with
you,
mr
chair,
but
you
know
I'll
tell
you:
I've
gotten
significant,
a
significant
number
of
neighbors
reached
out
and
spoke
to
me
on
this
issue
and
really
where
they
came
from.
Is
they
just
kind
of
put
up
their
hands
and
said:
we've
lived
on
this
street
for
15
20
years,
and
this
doesn't
seem
to
be
in
it.
You
know
really
what
it
was
is.
E
This
doesn't
seem
to
be
an
issue
the
city
cares
about
and-
and
it's
very
sad
to
hear
when
our
residents
say
that,
because
I
know
that's
not
true,
and
you
know
I
I
addressed
it
the
best
I
could
because
I
don't,
unfortunately
know
the
history
from
2006
on,
but
I
just
want
to
make
very
clear
tonight.
What
really
are
the
standards?
Why?
Why
does
city
staff
act
on
a
certain
way
or
what
you
know?
B
Let
me
do
this
if
I
may.
First
of
all,
I
know
we're
going
to
hear
that
again.
We
I
do
know
for
a
fact
that
if
there
is
anyone
who
has
been
concerned
about
a
traffic
issue
for
more
than
six
to
eight
months,
they
have
had
those
standards
explained-
and
I
happen
to
know
by
looking
at
my
packet
tonight-
that
the
montgomery
road
folks
definitely
know
what
the
requirements
are,
because
they
have
been
through
them
two
or
three
times
and
without
success.
B
That
being
said,
though,
this,
I
think
may
be
something
that
we
would
handle
under
our
discussion
after
public
comments.
I
think
if
there
are
specific
questions
about
the
report,
but
I
do
think
we
should
discuss
this
after
we
have
the
the
residents
a
chance
to
speak.
So
let's
do
this.
Are
there
specific
questions
about
the
report
we
received
and
then,
of
course,
we
will
have
discussion
after
our
residents
get
to
speak.
E
B
Sure
I'm
sorry
I
I
didn't
recognize
that
little
sign
there,
so
I
should
have
I'm
sorry,
commissioner
ferris.
Please
go
ahead
with
your
questions
to
stamp
all.
C
Right
thanks,
so
the
the
one
one
question
I
guess
I
had
out
of
this
is
that
when
it
comes
to
closures,
when
the
current
manner
by
which
we
close
it
is
either
it's
closed
to
all
traffic
or
it's
not
closed.
C
It
was
just
something
I
don't
know
if
that's
that's
something
that's
available
or
as
chair
limo
has
mentioned,
that
there
might
be
some
warrant
that
doesn't
quite
tie
to
allowing
for
that.
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
a
creative
way
of
getting
potentially
what
commercial
fletcher
is
saying
is
like
it's
either:
do
it
or
don't
do
it
and
that's
kind
of
the
only
thing?
Is
there
a
new
way
you
know
technology
is
supposed
to
solve
everything
right
so.
D
Yeah
we're
not
aware
of
any
type
of
technology
that
you
know
like
an
automated
system,
maybe
where
there's
a
clock,
that's
attached
to
a
gate
that
automatically
closes
in
and
opens
depending
on
what
time
of
day
I
mean
that's
something
that
we
could
probably
look
into,
but
I
think
street
closures
in
southern
california
are
rather
rare.
So
usually,
if
they
go
in
there,
it's
a
permanent
closure.
F
And
I
guess
I'll
stay
add
to
that
sheriff.
I
made
that
probably
also
serves
for
the
predictability's
sake
too.
I
mean
for
either
with
delivery,
trucks
or
mail
or
emergency
services
and
so
forth,
having
different
hours
or
if
it's
open
or
closed
might
cause
its
own
problems
or
wind
up
sending
vehicles
down
the
road
which
didn't
realize
it's
closed.
Now
they
have
to
make
a
u-turn,
and
we
don't
have
you
know
a
proper
cul-de-sac
there.
So
there
are
some
other
challenges,
potentially
with
having
a
dynamic
timing
of
the
street
open
or
closed.
F
But
again,
as
as
jim
michigan
mentioned,
we
can
definitely
look
into
that
that'd.
B
Be
worth
asking
thanks?
Yes,
thank
you,
commissioner
ferris.
Are
there
any
other
questions
of
our
commissioners
prior
to
us?
Getting
some
public
comment.
B
If
not,
then
I
will
ask
ms
marcelino
we
do
have
speakers
on
this
subject.
Is
that
correct.
A
Yes,
chair,
one
individual
has
requested
to
speak
on
this
item.
Speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes
and
for
the
record,
no
written
statement
was
received.
A
G
Yes,
sir,
we
can
okay,
this
is
my
name,
is
joel
shnowski,
I'm
a
resident
of
waverly
heights
and
just
to
kind
of
keep
the
the
commission
brief.
We
had
been
a
group
of
us
neighbors
have
been
communicating
with
mr
haderi
and
mr
mashiko
over
the
past
couple
weeks.
G
Regarding
this
issue,
we
have
pretty
much
unanimously
come
to
the
conclusion
that
we
would
like
to
petition
for
the
road
closure
for
what
mr
mishiko
had
provided
in
2016,
which
was
the
closure
just
south
of
kaye,
jasmine
off
montgomery
and
then
also
the
additional
closure
just
south
of
cairo
jasmine
off
of
brush
hill.
G
One
of
the
things
that
we
would
like
to
get
more
information
from
the
city
is
is:
if
we
are
to
do
this
petition,
we
would
really
appreciate
the
traffic
commission
providing
us
with
as
much
data
and
information
as
possible
before
we
do
the
petition,
and
that
includes
guidelines
on
emergency
access.
If
this
closure
is
supposed
to
go
through
also,
you
know
regarding
that
picture
of
the
the
other
closure
street
closure.
G
That
would
be
obviously
preferred
over
the
the
plastic
ones
and
so
getting
information
on
the
guidelines
of
that
emergency
access.
How
it
would
be
affected
a
specific
date
on
the
effects
to
the
prof
proposed
traffic
closure,
and
you
know
how
much
potential
traffic
will
actually
be
reduced
on
each
side.
G
And
and
finally,
you
know
what
timeline
do
we
have
to
you
know
once
we
initiate
the
petition,
how
long
do
we
have
to
you
know,
gather
the
appropriate
majority
signatures
from
the
you
know:
400
stakeholder
homes,
and
so
I
I
kind
of
threw
out
a
lot
there,
but
I'd
love
to
get
a
little
bit
more
feedback
on
those
items.
B
Thank
you
just
one.
Second,
thank
you,
mr
shinowski.
I
appreciate
your
participation
tonight.
We
will
turn
things
over
to
staff,
to
try
and
provide
an
answer
to
your
question,
or
at
least
take
your
question
and
get
back
to
you,
nadar
or
mr
hidar.
Would
you
do
that
take
go
ahead?
Please
take
the
phone.
Sorry.
F
I'll
I'll
begin,
there
was
a
couple
questions
that
just
on
the
last
one,
how
much
time
within
that
for
the
petition
to
be
submitted.
There
is
no
formal
time
limitation
or
shot
clock
or
any
of
that
for
the
petition
to
be
circulated
around
from
the
neighborhood.
It
can
be
submitted
to
the
city
at
any
time
so
that
that
makes
that
element
of
it
a
little
bit
more
clear
and
then.
D
Yeah,
I
think,
as
far
as
data
I
mean
we
can
provide
any
data
that
we
have.
I
mean
we
have
data,
probably
dating
back
to
19
on
montgomery
road
and
some
of
the
surrounding
streets.
But
but
you
know,
part
of
the
challenge
is
you
know,
we'd
like
to
know
you
know,
is
the
neighborhood
supporting
this
before
we
expand
a
large
amount
of
resources
to
set
out
traffic
counters
on
every
street
in
that
neighborhoods,
because
I
think
that's
sort
of
what
this
is
probably
going
to
requires.
D
A
large
volume
of
traffic
counts
to
be
conducted
speed
so
that
if
something
does
go
in
we're
going
to
want
to
know
what
the
before
and
after
data
looks
like
to
see
what
the
impact
is
on.
Basically
every
street
in
the
neighborhood
and
also
probably
take
a
look
at
travel
time
considerations.
How
long
does
it
take
you
to
go?
You
know
if
your
half,
the
neighborhood
is
cut
off
the
north
side
and
the
south
side?
D
You
know
what
are
your
travel
time
changes
as
you
use
your
alternate
routes,
and
also
the
other
impact
would
be
our
speed's
going
to
go
up
on
some
of
these
other
streets,
they're
going
to
be
now
seeing
more
traffic
than
they
were
before,
so
that
might
result
in
a
request
for
speed
humps
on
some
of
these
diverted
streets.
So
there's
a
there's
a
lot
to
look
into
here,
but,
and
part
of
that
is
why
we
have
the
requirement
for
the
petition
that
the
neighborhood
has
to
be
on
board
with
this
before
the
city.
B
If
I,
if
I
could
just
weigh
in
real
really
quickly,
I
need
you
to
clarify
one
thing
for
me:
when
our
speaker
spoke
of
neighborhoods
and
and
you
of
shareholder
stakeholders,
the
number
of
400
was
mentioned.
Does
that
number
of
400
include
every
resident
or
every
address
that
is
impacted
besides
that?
Just
on
that
one
road,
in
other
words,
does
it
cover
the
full
neighborhood
or
what
we
would
consider
the
domino
effect,
the
potential
domino
effect
area
and-
and
I
would
like
to
just
get
that
clarified
and
then
we
will.
F
Yeah
on
that,
to
clarify
that
particular
question:
yes,
we
jim
can
potentially
pull
up
that
map
again,
but
that
400
properties
is
the
that
neighborhood
does
comprise
that
neighborhood
and
that's
the
that
has
been
the
scope
of
the
impact
of
potentially
impacted
properties
that
we've
been
looking
at
kind
of
cohesively.
You
know,
as
we
discussed
earlier,
there's
a
it.
F
You
know
we
want
to
consider
the
impacts
throughout
the
neighborhood
and
not
you
know,
consider
only
a
part
of
the
equation
and
then
find
out
there's
problems
later
that
were
unintended
consequences.
F
So
part
of
this
is
you
know,
as
the
residents
study
this,
they
have
to
determine
the
pros
and
cons
of
the
various
options
and
there's
certain
compromises
that
have
to
be
made
between
convenience
of
having
the
ability
to
to
access
both
streets,
flores
and
jams,
depending
on
which
side
of
the
community
you're
in
versus
the
desire
to
you
know,
calm
traffic
or
reduce.
You
know
non-local
traffic
from
driving
through,
so
there's
those
are
the
kind
of
compromises
that
the
residents
will
have
to
weigh
in
and
their
ultimate
decision.
F
B
You
and
as
we
open
up
to
questions
from
the
commissioners
when
we'll
have
our
discussion,
of
course
after
you
get
your
information
from
staff,
but
I'd
like
to
let
you
know
as
after
spending
so
many
years
on
the
commission,
I
can
tell
you
that
the
reason
there
are
two
reasons
that
that
we
go
with
getting
the
petitions
done.
First
number
one:
it
is
a
way
of
notifying
and
including
the
entire
neighborhood
in
the
process
and
getting
a
legitimate
concern
before
we
have
significant
expenditure,
get
a
legitimate
concern
from
the
neighborhood.
B
That
being
said,
it
is,
it
is
hard
work.
There's
no
doubt
about
it.
Getting
the
petitions
out
and
signed
is
a
hard
work,
but
it's
necessary
data
to
have
before
we
spend
a
lot
of
money
and
with
that,
let's
open
up
to
questions
of
staff
from
our
commissioners
and
if
you
want
to
do
the
old-fashioned,
raise
of
the
hand
I'd
appreciate
it.
So
I
don't
miss
anybody.
B
I
know
mick,
I
know
your
background.
You
put
it
then
on
the
moon
and
you're,
realizing
that
you
know,
I'm
still
amazed
that
men
got
to
the
moon,
so
you
have
to
just
roll
with
me,
but
no
I
I
know
that
you
are
a
rocket
scientist
and
I
know
this
is
not
rocket
science.
But
when
you're
trying
to
teach
me
it's
a
little
tough,
so.
B
Right,
okay,
so
does
anyone
have
any
questions
for
staff
and,
let's
start
downloading
commissioner
ferris,
do
you
have
any
questions.
C
No,
not
this
time
mine
was
about
the
abilities
of
what
we
might
have
available.
So
thanks.
D
Yes,
we
took
two
measurements
in
2016
at
separate
times.
C
And
is
what
were
the
two
measurements
taken
in
2016
because
of
the
the
concern
raised
by
the
resurgence
of
a
concern
raised
by
the
neighborhood
regarding
traffic
on
montgomery.
D
Okay,
I
don't
recall
the
particulars
back,
then
I
think
one
was
related
to
the
residents
who
who
spoke
and
raised
their
concerns,
and
I
think
the
second
one
was
prior
to
the
meeting
that
we
held
at
the
library
we
just
wanted
to
take
one
more
count,
just
to
make
sure
you
know,
did
the
data
change
before
we.
You
know
had
that
meeting.
C
Is
is
there
any?
Is
there
any
hypothesis
as
to
what
has
led
to
the
increased
traffic
on
montgomery
since
2006?
C
It
seems
like
suddenly,
you
know
sometime
between
2001
and
2006,
it
kind
of
increased
significantly
and
it's
been
held.
It's
held
pretty
steady
over
the
past,
you
know
15
years,
and
I
just
I
just
wonder
if
if
the
city
has
any
guess
or
understanding
as
to
why
the
traffic
has
increased.
D
I
guess
one:
one
of
the
things
I'll
point
out,
though,
is
that
we
have
had
more
bypass
traffic
in
the
city
as
the
23
freeway
is
congested
during
those
peak
hours.
So
as
a
result,
when
some
of
that
freeway
flows
off
onto
our
arterial
streets
like
moorpark
road,
okay,
when
more
park
road
gets
congested,
people
find
okay.
Now
I
want
to
find
another
way
to
reduce
my
travel
time,
and
so
they
start
cutting
through
the
neighborhoods
and
it's
not
going
to
be
24
hours
a
day.
D
C
If,
if
that,
when
that
comes
to
completion
is,
is
there
any
prognostication
that
you
know
the
bypass
traffic
or
the
cut
traffic
is
going
to
slide
back
down
to
you
know,
maybe
under
3
000
cars
per
day.
D
Yeah,
I
don't
think
we
have
any
projections
of
what
the
improvements
to
the
23
freeway
will
do.
Yeah.
You
know,
that's
something
that
you
know
a
lot
of
the
traffic
from
this
point
forward.
You
know
it
may
be.
You
know,
may
not
reach
those
2016
levels
as
businesses
and
things
are
done
differently.
The
way
people
are.
You
know,
teleworking
from
home
things
like
that.
So
you
know
we're
we're
sort
of
curious
ourselves
as
to
what
our
traffic
volume
levels
are
going
to.
D
You
know
revert
to,
or
is
it
you
know
ever
going
to
reach
those
higher
levels
again,
we're
not
sure.
B
I
have
a
few
first
of
all,
speed
humps
were
installed
in
1989
and
virtually
immediately
had
an
impact
of
a
reduction
of
almost
30
percent,
and
my
question
is:
is:
is
it
possible
that
between
1989
and
two
thousand
two
three
or
four,
that
the
speed
humps
have
worn
down
and
they're
less
of
a
deterrent
than
they
used
to
be,
and
do
they
need
to
be
perhaps
something
as
simply
as
shored
up
or
reinstalled?
B
That
would
be
one
question
and
the
next
question
sort
of
tails
off
on
something
that
mr
mashiko
just
brought
up,
and
that
is
there
is
absolutely
positively
a
new
normal.
We
just
don't
know
what
the
new
normal
is.
We
know
that
there
are
estimates
of
anywhere
from
10
to
35
percent,
less
work-related
commuter
traffic
because
of
companies
taking
things
like
zoom
and
others,
and
working
more
flex
schedules
with
their
employees
and
all.
And
so
my
after
you
answer
my
question
on
the
speed
humps.
B
My
next
question
is,
very
simply:
should
we
be
waiting
for
at
least
12
months,
even
with
a
petition
for
at
least
12
months
after
100
opening
takes
place
so
that
we
can
get
a
judge
on
what
the
new
normal
is,
because
I
think
if
the
new
normal
is
affecting
people's
work,
it
may
also
affect
the
adult
school
with
how
they
may
offer
some
of
their
class
offerings
anyway.
Mr
michigan,
could
you
comment
on
the
necessary
the
need
of
rehabilitating
speed
humps,
if
necessary,
or
okay,
yeah.
D
In
general,
the
the
speed
humps
they
don't
get
compressed
significantly
over
time.
They
do
maintain
their
shape,
and
I
would
imagine
that
over
time
that
montgomery
has
had
several
overlays.
So
when
the
overlays
occurred,
the
speed
humps
were
removed
and
then
rebuilt
back
to
standard
three-inch
high
specifications.
D
So
we
we
do
check
them
immediately
after
they're
built,
so
we're
confident
that
they've
maintained
their
shape
over
the
years.
Thank.
B
You
I
think
what
would
be
proper
here
is
if
members
of
the
commission
feel
it's
beneficial
to
have
any
discussion
for
staff
or
to
share
any
opinions
with
staff.
Now
would
be
the
time
to
do
it.
Please
keep
in
mind
that
this
is
not
an
action
item.
This
is
an
information
only
item
at
this
point,
so,
of
course
we
won't
be
taking
the
vote.
B
Do
any
of
commissioners?
Have
anything
they'd
like
to
have
said
on
the
record
for
staff
to
be
aware
of
in
regards
to
this
other
than
we
will
find
out?
You
know
how
the
community,
the
neighborhood,
I
should
say,
feels
in
regards
to
gathering
those
or
to
polling
those
400
residents.
E
I
wanted
to
just
jump
in
mr
chair.
If
I
could,
I
would
just
come
back
tail
back
to
a
question
because
I
know
you
know
mr
shanowski
is
is,
I
believe,
the
representative
for
the
neighborhood.
If
I'm
not
mistaken-
and
you
know,
I
think
the
most
important
thing
coming
out
of
this-
this
is
an
informational
item.
This
has
been
something
long
sought
after
by
some
of
the
neighbors
in
the
community,
could
staff
or
just
make
sure
you
know
my
only
thought
is.
E
I
just
want
to
really
set
a
a
clear
timeline
for
mr
shanowski
and
the
neighbors
that
if
they
go
out
and
diligently
get
this
survey
and
get
the
results
and
turn
it
into
the
city,
what
would
be
the
next
steps
and
how
would
a
timeline
kind
of
look,
look
like
just
just
just
to
be
very
clear
and
and
make
sure
that
they
understand,
and
maybe
it's
something
that
you
know
you
can
just
you
can
just
respond
with
we're.
Gonna
follow
up
and
work
very
closely
with
them
and
lay
out
that
timeline.
E
But
that's
the
one
thing
that
really
the
neighbors
that
I
spoke
with
wanted
to
stress
is
is:
if
we
do
everything
the
city
wants
us
to
do.
What's
the
timeline
before
we
actually
can
see
some
physical
results.
So
that's
the
one
thing
I
I
wanted
to
stress
it.
It
may
not
even
require
a
response
from
mr
bashiko
or
any
of
staff,
but
you
know
it's
just
something
that
that
had
crossed
my
mind,
especially
if
mr
shanowski's
still
with
us.
I
believe
he
may
be
so.
D
Yeah
I
I'll
just
start
yeah.
I
think
right
now,
with
the
way
our
traffic
volume
levels
are
right
now
we
know
that
they
are
lower.
Typically,
when
we
do
our
traffic
surveys,
we
like
to
do
them
during
non-um
or
when,
when
school
is
in
session,
everything's
running
a
hundred
percent
right
now
we're
not
at
that
level.
I
think
if
we
did
a
survey
today,
just
like
we
did
back
in
august
of
last
year,
we
had
lower
numbers.
D
So
if
we
did
a
survey
now,
I
think
the
numbers
are
going
to
definitely
be
on
the
lower
side
and
may
not
help
his
cause.
So
I
think
periodically
we
are
prepared
to
do
some
counts
within
the
neighborhood
because
of
the
concerns
here.
So
I
think
we
will
be
taking
some
some
additional
surveys
just
to
see
where
we're
at.
As
you
know,
right
now,
things
are
opening
up.
So
we
do.
We
have
noticed.
D
Not
just
counts,
we're
going
to
do
license,
plate
surveys
as
well
and
and
that
I
believe
the
like.
If
there's
a
closure,
it's
for
24
hours,
I'm
not
sure.
If
we're
going
to
do
them,
you
know
for
24
hours,
but
we're
probably
going
to
pick
most
of
the
daylight
hours
of
the
day.
Just
to
see
you
know
what
is
the
range
I'm
sure
during
the
commute
times,
the
shortcutting
percentages
are
going
to
be
much
higher
and
then
during
the
non-peaks
they're
going
to
drop
off
significantly.
E
Just
I
I
had
one
more
quick
comment,
mr
chair.
I'm
sorry
one
of
the
in
talking
with
the
neighbors
one
of
the
reasons
that
they
brought
up.
Why
there's
so
much
passion,
I
think
behind
it,
and
this
is
again
for
staff
just
to
take.
Is
there
is
that
60
foot
right
away
on
montgomery
and
with
so
many
families
being
in
the
neighborhoods?
There's
not
really
any
good
sidewalk
to
walk
on
when
you,
when
you
kind
of
come
out
of
montgomery,
so
that
was
just
something
else
I
wanted
to
raise
just
this.
E
It's
what
I
heard
when
I
talked
to
some
of
the
neighbors
is
is
with
a
sidewalk.
Maybe
we
would
have
be
not
so
worried
about
the
traffic,
but
when
we
have
kids
there
and
children
and
families
that
want
to
walk
out
to
access
some
of
the
commercial
zones
around,
you
know
commercial
areas
around
the
property
or
the
residential
neighborhoods.
E
B
Thank
you
before
we
move
on
our
public
works
director.
Mr
finley
had
a
question
or
a
comment.
I
Yeah,
just
just
real
quick
and
this
kind
of
goes
to
the
general
general
theme
of
the
whole
thing.
Montgomery
is
a
public
street
and
and
no
and
and
that
neighborhood
is
all
public
streets
and-
and
actually
I
think
that
neighborhood
was
probably
originally
built
by
the
county,
or
at
least
the
majority
of
it
and
actually
came
to
the
city
as
it
is.
I
I
But
all
that
being
said,
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
always
balance
is
the
the
consequences
of
any
action
we
make
to
to
all
of
the
residents.
Because,
again,
there's
there's
residents
in
certain
neighborhoods.
They
bought
a
certain
house
because
they
liked
a
certain
thing
about
that.
Neighborhood
and
as
soon
as
you
go
starting
to
change
access
points,
even
speed,
humps.
For
goodness
sakes,
people
people
are
impacted
and,
and
they
boy
they
will
fill
these
chambers.
I
If
you,
if
you
didn't,
ask
them
a
question
and
ask
them
what
they
thought
they
will
come
here
and
we
will
you
know
we
will.
We
will
get
to
hear
their
side
of
the
story
they're
not
here
tonight,
because
we're
not
proposing
to
do
anything
and
that's
why
that
petition
process
is
so
important
and
that
that
can
be
not
even
just
closing
a
street.
We
curb
extensions.
I
I've
had
neighborhoods
come
and
glued
over
curb
extensions,
so
it's
important
and
crosswalks.
We
we
proposed
raised
crosswalks
and
someone's
like
no,
not
in
my
neighborhood,
so
no
matter
what
we
do.
There's
there's
people
on
both
sides
of
every
issue
and
and
if
you
can
get
consensus
in
a
neighborhood,
you
know
what
we'll
bring
anything
forward.
That
makes
sense,
because
that
that
means
we
have
community
support
and
it's
just
it's
just
step
one
and
and
and
imagine
your
own
streets
in
your
own
neighborhoods.
I
F
F
It
kind
of
because
of
that
reason,
because,
even
though
you
know
60
percent
of
the
residents
may
support
it,
you
could
have
a
very
agitated
40
are
saying
you
know
I
didn't
ever
bargain
for
any
change.
F
I
I
wasn't
anticipating
any
changes
to
my
street
when
I
bought
this
house
so
and
in
fact,
jim
michiko-
and
I
have
advised
the
the
neighborhood
representative
that
you
know
the
higher
the
number
the
better,
because
just
60
by
itself
has
been
proven
in
the
past
to
not
really
be
enough
for
the
speed
humps
and
that's
why
the
council
had
adjusted
that
threshold
to
75.
F
I
One
last
last
thing
I
want
to
say
is
as
staff:
we
are
absolutely
supportive
of
working
with
the
neighborhood
to
find
solutions
to
find
traffic
calming
solutions.
You
name
it.
We
will
sit
down
with
anybody
who
wants
to
talk
about
options
and
go
through
go
through
any
and
all
of
them,
but
we
just
need
consensus
in
order
to
to
actually
recommend
something
to
the
commission.
B
B
I
know
that
if
I
hear
from
three
people
that
raises
my
bar
a
little
bit,
but
I
think
here
at
the
commission,
it's
important
for
us
to
to
get
their
comments
in
writing,
because
that
helps
us
understand
what
the
neighborhood
is.
Truly
thinking
versus
just
commenting
to
one
or
two
of
our
commissioners
with
that.
If
there
are
no
more
comments
from
staff
for
our
commission,
we're
going
to
move
forward
on
item
six
b,
which
is
the
lawrence
drive
and
teller
road
interception
and
that
will
be
presented
by
our
engineering
associate
masood
rasabi.
H
My
name
is
mr
zavi,
and
I'm
an
engineering
associate
in
the
public
works
department,
capital
projects,
division
I'll,
be
providing
you
with
an
update
on
the
lawrence
drive
and
teller
road
intersection
improvement
project
before
discussing
the
current
state
of
the
project.
Let
me
first
begin
with
a
brief
project
overview.
H
As
you
can
see,
the
large
offset
about
30
feet
is
a
visual
barrier
to
predictable
flow
of
traffic.
The
city
conducted
the
traffic
study
warrant
analysis
in
2009,
based
on
increasing
traffic
volumes.
The
intersection
has
outgrown
the
level
of
efficiency
of
an
always
stop
control,
particularly
so
when
looking
forward
as
the
area
is
growing
and
a
more
efficient
level
of
traffic
control
is
needed.
H
This
is
the
westbound
view
of
tele
road
approaching
the
intersection.
As
you
can
see,
the
30
foot
offset
causes
a
visual
barrier
to
flow
of
traffic
and
the
eastbound
view
of
teller.
Road
approaching
lawrence
drive
the
double
yellow
lines
line
up
with
the
edge
of
the
road
on
the
east
of
lawrence
drive.
H
The
major
goal
was
to
address
the
intersection
offset.
This
image
shows
the
city's
existing
right-of-way
at
this
location
to
eliminate
the
offset.
We
can
utilize
this
existing
right-of-way
to
align
tele
road
on
both
sides
of
lawrence
drive.
Therefore,
we
looked
at
options
of
single
lane,
roundabout
and
signalization
with
major
road
widening
here's.
What
a
potential
roundabout
would
look
like
advantage
of
this
advantages
of
this
option.
Are
it
eliminates
the
offset
uses
existing
right-of-way
and
improves
intersection
visibility?
H
The
disadvantages
of
this
option
are:
it:
has
the
highest
design
and
construction
costs
upwards
of
thirty
three
and
a
half
million
dollars,
total
unfamiliar
intersection
intersection
configuration
recently.
The
first
functional
roundabout
on
an
arterial
street
was
constructed
on
duesenberg,
also
conflict
with
underground
utilities,
loss
of
catch
basin
on
tele
road
impact
to
landmark
trees
on
the
northeast
corner,
impacts
to
existing
driveways
on
teller,
on
both
teller,
road
and
lawrence
drive.
H
Here's
the
concept
of
signalization
with
major
road
whitening.
The
advantages
of
this
option
are
same
as
the
roundabout.
It
eliminates
the
offset
uses
existing
right-of-way
and
improves
intersection
visibility,
but
also
it
improves
pedestrian
safety
with
four-way
crosswalk
and
improved
lighting
and
increased
capacity
for
through
movement
in
westbound
direction.
H
H
H
Here's
the
civil
drawing
of
the
proposed
intersection
improvements.
I
recognize
that
this
might
look
a
bit
busy,
so
here's
a
cleaner
version
of
the
same
plan
showing
the
overview
of
the
proposed
intersection
improvements,
as
you
can
see,
on
tele
road,
eastbound
and
westbound
will
be
aligned
on
east
side
of
lawrence
drive.
H
The
current
single
westbound
lane
will
be
transformed
and
we
will
have
dedicated
left
turn
through
and
through
right
lanes,
as
well
as
reconstruction
of
the
southern
edge
of
the
street,
which
will
allow
complete
alignment
of
the
two
sides
on
the
west
side
of
lawrence
drive.
Re-Striping
will
create
two
lanes
to
match
the
alignment
on
the
east
side
on
lawrence
drive.
H
H
H
City
staff
has
performed
various
outreach
efforts
and
has
incorporated
public
input
and
comments
into
the
project.
In
addition,
the
design
and
specifications
of
the
project
will
incorporate
elements
such
as
construction,
phasing
and
night
work
to
minimize
impacts
to
the
public
during
the
construction.
H
The
staff
recommendation
is
to
receive
report
and
recommend
approval
of
the
final
design
concept
to
the
city
council,
so
that
staff
can
seek
city
council
authorization
to
advertise
the
project
for
construction
bits.
This
concludes
my
presentation
for
lawrence
drive
and
tele
road
intersection,
improvement
project
and
we'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
project
related
questions.
Thank.
B
You
thank
you
very
much,
mr
razavi.
That
was
an
excellent
report,
very
concise
and
as
someone
who
drives
that
intersection
many
many
many
times
a
week,
I
think
your
solution
sounds
very
good
with
that.
Let's
first
open
it
up
for
any
questions
from
our
commissioners
of
staff.
F
E
E
H
Yeah,
absolutely,
we
will
not
be
losing
any
bicycle
facilities.
Okay,
that
the
street
is
is
signed
as
coexisting,
a
bicycle
and
a
car
vehicle
coexisting.
It's
still
going
to
remain
the
same.
One
thing
that
we
will
lose.
I
mean
the
the
biggest
issue
on
this
may
be
that
the
parking-
but
that's
that's
aside
from
the
fact,
there's
no
bicycle
facilities
that
will
be
lost
in
this.
E
Okay,
was
there
any
consideration
just
as
a
follow-up?
Was
there
any
consideration
to
make
any
additions
or
improvements
to
the
intersection
for
bicycles,
perhaps
painted
lanes
or
just
you
know,
helping
you
know
because,
as
a
bicyclist,
I
always
like
to
see
what
ways
we
can
make
improvements
or
make
any
considerations,
and
I
know
it's
better
to
you
know
as
they
say,
to
kill
two
birds
with
one
stone,
but,
as
you
guys
are
looking
at
the
area,
I
just
was
there
any
other
considerations
for
any
bicycle
improvements
along
teller.
There.
D
D
We
do
use
video
detection
nowadays,
so
with
the
video
we
are
able
to
set
up
detection
zones
that
are
much
easier
for
the
cyclists
to
be
detected,
and
you
know
that's
one
of
the
things
with
the
technology
that
has
advanced
over
time
is
that
yeah
we
are
able
to
accommodate
more
and
more
bicyclists
in
the
through
lanes,
which
normally
they
have
to
wait
for
a
car
to
show
up
or
get
off
the
bike
and
go
push
the
button.
You
know
that's
more
or
less
been
eliminated.
E
B
Are
you
any
other
commissioner
questions?
Thank
you
very
much
steph.
I
know
that
at
this
time,
then
we
can
ask
if
there's
any
commission
discussion.
This
is
an
action
item.
The
item
we
will
be
voting
on
is
well.
We've
received
the
report,
but
to
recommend
approval
of
this
final
design
concept
that
we've
seen
tonight
and
request
staff
seek
city
council
authorization
to
advertise
the
project
for
construction
bids.
A
Before
that
care,
I
would
like
to
mention
that
for
the
record,
no
one
has
requested
to
speak
and
the
written
statement
was
received
on
this
item
and
now
I'm
going
to
call
this.
Thank.
B
C
A
Commissioner
pletcher,
yes
vice
chair
email,
yes,
care,
lambo,.
C
A
A
Any
person
wishing
to
appeal
a
decision
of
the
traffic
commission
shall
file
a
written
appeal
and
pay
an
appeal
fee
with
the
city
clerk
department
within
14
calendar
days
of
this
decision.
The
matter
will
be
referred
to
the
city
council
at
the
earliest,
reasonable
and
available
date.
The
appeal
fee
will
be
refunded
only
if
the
city
council
overturns
the
traffic
commission's
decision.
An
appeal
form
is
available
from
the
recording
secretary.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
ms
marcelino,
and
next
we
will
move
to
item
seven.
Actually
I
I
believe
we
can
just
move
to
item
seven
because
it
is
a
status
report
and
I
would
like
to
hand
this
off
to
who
will
be
making
that
status
report
tonight.
There's.
No,
there
is
no
action
required
who
will
be
making
the
report
on
the
status
of
those
two
items:
7a
and
7b.
D
Yeah
I'll
just
give
a
brief
recap
of
what
item
seven
says:
chair
limo.
These
are
the
two
items
you
heard
at
the
last
meeting:
the
item
on
the
mark,
crosswalk
with
rap
flashing,
beacons
for
wendy
drive
at
charlotte
street
for
pedestrian
safety.
That's
going
to
our
city
council
on
may
11th
for
approval
and
then
on
june,
8th.
The
item
on
the
flashing,
yellow
arrow
left
turn
displays
are,
will
be
reviewed
by
our
city
council
for
so
for
approval.
So
we
can
go
on
to
implementation.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Any
any
of
our
commissioners
have
any
questions
on
those
items
hearing
none.
Then
we
will
move
to
item
eight,
which
is
commission
referrals
from
march
17th,
and
there
are
none
the
work
and
program
schedule
which
is
attached
and
we
won't
go
into
that
unless
any
of
you
have
questions
over
that
of
that,
I
should
say
and
hold
on
just
a
second
here,
the
wrong
meeting
here
we
are
anyone
have
any
comments
on
our
work
program
and
commission
schedule,
which
is
attached.
B
Hearing
none
do
we
have
any
traffic
commission
comments
or
discussion
prior
to
our
last
agenda
item
okay,
so
we
have
an
item
to
decide
on
in
regards
to
our
meeting
scheduled
for
may
19th.
We
have
actually
taken
both
actions.
What
I
mean
by
that
is
in
the
past,
we
have
canceled
the
meeting
to
the
following
month
or
we
have
also
which
I
don't
think
we
like
doing
anymore,
but
we've
also
had
one
meeting
that
we
started
years
ago,
a
half
hour
late
to
accommodate
the
ride
of
silence.
B
I
would
like
to
put
it
out
to
our
commissioners
or
to
staff,
which
you
think
is
best,
but
how
do
we
feel
about?
Well,
let
me
ask
this
so
that
we
can
have
a
discussion.
What
does
the
work
schedule?
Look
like,
in
other
words,
is
staff's
job
made
more
difficult
by
us,
literally
canceling,
the
may
19th
meeting
and
just
dealing
with
whatever
work
is
on
your
plate
on
the
the
june
16th
meeting.
D
Okay,
yeah,
I
just
want
to
jump
in
on
that
one.
We
really
have
really
no
items
pressing
to
come
back
for
having
a
meeting
in
may.
What
we're
hoping
to
do
is
have
two
items
for
june,
because
if
we
come
back
next
month,
we
may
have
just
one
item
and
then
have
one
item
in
june.
So,
instead
of
having
one
item
at
each
meeting,
have
both
items
in
in
the
month
of
june.
B
Thank
you.
It
is
very
kind
of
you
to
be
so
respectful
of
our
time
as
well.
So
with
that,
is
there
commission
discussion
on
voting
to
cancel
our
may
19th
meeting?
Let's
start
with
that,
first.
E
B
E
To
make
a
motion
to
cancel
the
may
19th
2021
meeting,
it
coincides
with,
of
course,
the
right
of
silence
and
move
it
to.
Our
next
meeting
would
be
june.
B
Okay,
so
what
we
will
do
is
this:
I'm
do
ms
marcelina
do.
I
need
a
second.
B
No
okay:
we
have
a
motion
to
cancel
our
may
19th
meeting
any
discussion
on
that
hearing.
None!
Ms
marcelino,
would
you
call
the
role
for
a
vote
on
that?
Please.
B
B
I
hope
you
know
we
value
all
of
you
but
like
to
single
out
a
particular
staff
member,
and
there
is
no
specific
purpose
for
me.
I
did
not
receive
any
tickets
or
anything,
but
I
want
to
thank
sergeant
carl
patterson
for
his
service
to
our
city
and
for
probably
having
to
put
up
with
the
most
obstinate
citizens
we
have,
because
if
we're
stopped
for
traffic
he's
not
a
guy,
I
want
to
see
so
with
all
that
we're
going
to
adjourn
our
meeting
until
wednesday
june
16
2021.