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A
A
A
And
that
is
a
great
flag.
Thank
you
so
much
so.
If
we
can
ask
ms
vasquez,
could
you
please
call
the
roll
please.
C
D
A
A
Thank
you
and
he
did.
Let
us
know
that
that
was
going
to
be
the
case.
Now,
if
you
could,
please
read
the
the
notice
for
public
comments.
B
This
is
the
time
and
place
for
public
comments.
Registration
for
public
comments
was
available
until
the
start
of
the
meeting
for
those
wishing
to
address
the
traffic
commission
regarding
items
on
the
agenda
or
on
a
subject
within
the
city's
jurisdiction.
Speakers
for
specific
agenda
items
shall
be
called
and
heard
during
that
specific
item.
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
traffic
commission
as
a
whole
in
all
documents
for
the
commission
and
the
official
record
should
be
presented
to
the
recording
secretary
prior
to
the
meeting.
B
B
One
individual
has
requested
to
speak
and
pursuant
to
traffic
commission
standards,
public
comic
speakers
are
allowed
two
minutes
for
the
record.
We
have
not
received
a
written
statement
under
the
public
comments.
Section
also,
please
silence
all
cell
phones
during
the
meeting
and
please
remember
to
mute
your
microphones
when
you
are
not
speaking.
B
E
A
Okay,
let
me
just
hold
on
just
just
one.
Second,
please
miss
norville
being
that
it's
not
on
that
subject
matter.
What
is
the?
What
are
we
permitted
to
do
being
that
it's
a
public
comment
and
we
only
have
one
speaker
in
public
comment,
not
the
16
or
17
on
the
other
matter.
Can
we
let
public
public
comment?
Can
you
try
and
trim
it
to
three
and
let's
take
it
from
there.
E
It's
about
this
line,
striping
options,
bridge
gate.
A
Oh
okay,
is
there
a
reason
that
it's
not
in?
We
usually
have
any
comments
on
a
agenda
item
under
that
item.
F
A
A
G
Okay,
no,
I
think
we're
yeah,
that's
just
information!
If
you
have
any
comments
on
it,
we'll
be
glad
to
take
them.
A
A
G
Okay,
thank
you,
chair,
limo,
just
wanna
make
sure
I'm
unmuted
at
this
time.
G
Yes,
thank
you
chair
lemon.
This
item
is
to
consider
what
a
roadway
striping
proposal
for
bridgegate
street
west
of
westlake
boulevard
to
resolve
resident
traffic
interns.
Here
we
go.
G
Here's
a
location
map
that
shows
the
third
mile
long
segment
of
bridge
the
gate
shown
in
blue
west
of
west
lake
boulevard
vitrero,
is
to
the
south
and
triovo
canyon.
Road
is
to
the
north.
Bridgegate
is
a
collector
street
that
has
a
35
mile
per
hour,
speed
limit
in
october
of
last
year.
G
The
first
photo
is
looking
west
after
entering
from
westlake
boulevard
notice,
here
that
the
road
has
no
striping
and
is
46
feet
wide.
There's
ample
room
for
through
traffic
bicycle
and
pedestrian
traffic
and
curbside
parking
homes
along
the
this
portion
of
the
street
take
side,
frontage,
here's
another
view
further
west.
This
photo
is
looking
eastbound
near
the
intersection
with
brookview
avenue.
In
this
picture,
you
can
see
there's
no
sidewalk.
On
the
south
side,
we
have
standard
sidewalk
on
the
north
side,
adjacent
to
the
homes.
G
As
shown
in
the
pictures,
the
lack
of
road
striping
and
the
46
feet
wide
road
affords
drivers
plenty
of
room
to
maneuver
their
vehicles
to
resolve
the
traffic
concerns.
Staff
was
asked
to
consider
implementation
of
a
number
of
traffic
measures,
including
speed
limit
reduction,
speed,
humps,
always
stop
sign,
control
and
mark
pedestrian
crosswalks.
G
G
So,
with
the
requested
measures
by
the
residents
not
eligible
for
implementation,
the
city
proposes
implementing
roadway
striping
to
calm
traffic
between
belcroft
avenue
to
westlake
boulevard.
There
are
two
concepts
that
were
included
in
the
staff
report
and
this
first
photo
shows
one
that
features
center
line
striping
and
painted
shoulders.
G
The
second
option
to
strike
bridge
gate
features
a
center
turn
lane
and
painted
shoulders.
The
advantage
of
this
option
is
that
it
reduces
rear-end
conflicts
at
driveways
and
intersections
and
offers
more
separation
between
east
and
westbound
vehicles.
This
is
staff's,
preferred
option
and
given
the
set
of
concerns
voiced
by
the
by
the
residents,
adding
roadway
striping
could
ease
the
resident's
traffic
concerns.
G
Date
we
mailed
out
approximately
300
meeting
notifications
to
the
area
highlighted
in
yellow
on
this
map.
The
meeting
notice
invited
the
residents
to
provide
their
input
to
the
commission
this
evening
and
so
far
we've
received
two
emails
supporting
road
striping.
They
both
prefer
the
center
line,
striping
options
shown
in
the
report.
G
We
also
received
feedback
from
33
residents,
opposed
to
quote
striping.
I
would
like
to
add
that
there
are
other
similar
streets
like
bridgegate,
where
a
collector's
street
has
a
higher
speed
limit
and
narrows
to
a
standard
residential
street
with
a
25
mile
per
hour,
speed
limit
these
streets
include,
parkview
drive,
michael
drive,
campus
drive
and
based
on
our
experiences
on
these
similar
streets,
where
we've
used
road
roadway
striping
we're
proposing
a
similar
approach
here
on
bridgegate.
G
If
public
support
is
not
apparent
and
the
commission
does
not
support
adding
striping
to
bridgegate
the
striping
proposal
would
be
discontinued.
We
realize
that
the
majority
of
feedback
received
is
not
in
favor
of
road
striping.
However,
the
city
is
committed
to
improving
traffic
safety,
and
that
is
why
this
item
is
being
considered.
This
evening
concludes
the
staff
report
and
we'll
be
pleased
to
answer
any
questions
of
the
commission.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
machinko.
I
think
the
report
was
excellent
and
I
appreciate
the
information
we
received
with
our
packet
as
well
before
we
move
forward.
I'd
like
to
ask
our
commissioners:
do
you
have
any
questions
of
staff
directly
related
to
the
report.
A
I'm
seeing
that
no
one
does,
I'm
sorry
drew
you
do
please.
Mr
commissioner
fletcher.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
just
a
a
quick
question.
Thank
you
very
much
for
a
thorough
presentation,
kind
of
laying
out
the
options
you
had
mentioned.
One
of
the
options
I
believe
had
was
more
of
a
bike
lane
striping
with
that
center
lanes
center
lane
stripe
down
the
down
the
middle.
I
guess
why
just
walk
me
through
just.
Why
wasn't
that
a
you
know?
Why
isn't
that
not
a
preferred
option,
just
considering
its
residential
streets,
I
just
was.
It
was
more
curiosity
than
anything
yeah.
G
Yeah,
I
think
we
could
have
gone
any
different
direction
with
these
striping
options.
Bike
lanes
would
definitely
serve
a
benefit
in
this
type
of
community,
where
you
know
you're
going
to
get
a
number
of
cyclists
in
the
area,
but
I
guess
in
in
terms
of
like
some
of
the
descriptions
of
traffic
putting
in
the
center
turn
lane
that
option
that
we
stated
as
our
preferred
option.
G
C
And
if
I
get
it
out,
I
think
that
center
turn
lane's
been
implemented
on
la
granada
east
of
herbs,
road,
which
is
a
somewhat
similar
situation
with
a
wider
street
that
we're
looking
to
do
some
traffic
calming
there
may.
C
Other
factors
that
resulted
in
that
striping
solution
being
implemented
for
that
roadway.
But
it's
been
there's
precedent.
H
For
that,
and
and
just
by
all
means-
I
I
don't
discount-
I
actually
like
staff's
preferred
option
personally,
but
I'm
always
interested
in
you
know.
If
we
can
get
bike
lanes
more
bike
lanes
in
the
city
as
much
as
possible.
Kathy's
smiling.
She
sees
it,
I'm
on
always,
certainly
for
it
just
because
that
helps
helps
our
our
bike
helps
us
with
being
a
bike
friendly
city.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
the
question
back.
I'm
I'm
finished,
mr
chair.
I
G
Well,
that
was
one
of
the
first
things
we
did
out
there
early
on
after
we
were
alerted
by
the
residents
of
the
concerns.
We
did
a
field
inventory
of
what's
out
there
and
noticed
at
the
speed
limit
signs.
The
payment
markings
weren't
there,
so
we
added
the
35
payment
marking
next
to
the
sign
and
there's
a
25
mile
per
hour
sign
further
up
by
valcroft.
We
added
that
pavement
stencil
down
here,
but
usually
in
a
residential
area.
G
A
Were
they
were
included
because
in
the
in
the
picture
that
was
on
our
screen,
the
speed
limit
was
actually
on
the
street.
A
A
I
have
not
gone
deep
into
the
packet,
I'm
doing
that
right
now,
while
we
speak
it
it.
I
will
tell
you
that
the
photographs
in
our
packet
don't
show
the
same
depth
as
to
where
the
street
was
marked.
G
Yes,
that's
correct
our
the
packet
photos,
don't
show
all
the
photos
I
showed
in
the
powerpoint.
So
you
will,
I
think,
in
the
report.
You
only
find
the
options
that
we
laid
out
for
striping
and
I
think,
a
couple
photos
of
the
street,
but
not
of
the
stencils.
A
One
of
the
things
that
I
can
help
you
with
a
little
bit
is
that
we
have
found
that
and
I
and
I
would
defer,
probably
to
to
sergeant
patterson
and
his
staff,
but
we
have
found
that
most
of
the
people
that
are
the
quote,
quote-unquote
rule,
benders
or
rule
abusers
are
all
local
or
significant
majority
or
local,
and
so
that,
usually,
when
we
make
a
measure
as
simple
as
that
or
as
low-key,
as
that
it
works
initially
and
then,
as
the
people
become
familiar
against
their
neighborhood
and
they
know
the
lay
of
the
land.
A
It's
not
paid
attention
to
us
closely.
That
being
said,
if
any
staff
or
sergeant
patterson
would
want
to
react
to
that,
please.
G
Yes,
that's
correct
your
limo,
usually
whenever
we
implement
something
new,
there
is
a
immediate
change
in
driver
behavior
because
they
notice
it's
a
new
condition,
so
they
adjust
and
adapt.
But
over
time
you
know
people
become
used
to
that
condition,
and
then
you
know
they
sort
of
don't
have
that
same
focus
as
when
they
first
drove
that
road
when
they
saw
it
for
the
first
time
with
that
new
striping
configuration
the
example
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
years
ago
we
had
a
street
avenida
de
los
arbilis.
G
We
repainted
that
road.
After
an
overlay,
it
had
a
center
line
down
the
middle
of
the
road
and
it
was
four
lanes.
We
changed
that
road
to
a
three-lane
road,
which
is
a
single
lane
in
each
direction
and
a
two-way
turn
lane
down
the
middle
collisions
on
that
road
immediately
dropped.
So
you
know
that's
one
of
the
things
that
road
striping
can
do
is
it
can
reduce
a
number
of
the
traffic
conflicts
that
you
see
on
the
roadways,
so
the
preferred
option
that
staff
had
pointed
out
in
the
staff
report?
I
I
I
understand
that
on
the
main
thoroughfare,
but
in
a
residential
neighborhood,
though
do
we
have
any
data
showing
that
if
we
do
stripe
it,
it
does
have
an
impact
on
it.
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
the
justification
of
putting
stripes
down.
If
we
don't
have
do
we
have
any
evidence
in
a
similar
residential
neighborhood
to
show
that
you
know
by
doing
this,
it
does
work
or
does
not
work.
A
Well,
we
do.
We
do
have
evidence,
it's
been
referred
to
over
time
as
a
road
diet
and
other
things,
but
when
those
calming
measures
are
put
into
effect,
while
some
of
us
would
say
we
can't
always
have
the
effect
that
we
really
really
want.
A
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
that,
yes,
we
we
do
have
proof
that
it
does
calm
the
traffic
with
many
many
people.
I
can't
tell
you
the
majority,
there's
it's
difficult
to
put
a
measurement
out
other
than
we
know
that
complaints
go
away.
Traffic
collisions
happen
less,
but
we
have
we
gone
out,
for
example,
on
a
lot
of
these
roads
and
done
the
same
traffic
measurements
that
got
us
to
this
point.
G
Yeah
well
there
you
know,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
streets
like
bridgegate
in
the
city,
where
you
have
a
a
wide
road.
I
think
in
the
report
I
pointed
out
three
similar
streets
where
you
started
with
a
wide
road
as
you,
you
know,
go
further
down
and
you
start
entering
deeper
in
the
neighborhood.
The
road
narrows
up
all
those
streets
that
I
pointed
out.
We
did
use
some
type
of
truck
striping
treatment
to
bring
a
little
bit
more
order
to
to
the
road
versus.
G
Most
people
are
probably
driving
on
the
side
of
the
unpainted
imaginary
center
line,
but
then
you
know,
there's
always
going
to
be
a
handful
of
drivers
that
are
going
to
be
driving.
They
see
a
slow
car
in
front
of
them.
They
have
a
wide
unmarked
road.
They
may
you
know
they
may
think
about
passing
that
other
car,
so
that
that's
what
road
striping
does
it
influences
their
thinking
into
not
doing
some
of
those
poor.
You
know
driving
driving
behaviors
also.
A
One
of
the
reasons
that
people
are
not
able
to
stay
within
this
imaginary
line
is
because,
when
they're
busy
texting
or
sending
messages
or
answering
emails
or
visiting
websites
while
they're
driving,
they
have
a
very
difficult
time,
even
staying
within
the
imaginary
line,
and
so
that
sort
of
helps
them
a
little
bit.
Remember
where
they're
supposed
to
be
while
they're
busy
trying
to
do
all
of
their
social
media
work
while
driving.
I
do
have
to
interrupt
us
with
a
question,
and
this
is
just
one
of
our
technological
questions.
A
We
have
people
asking
us
questions
as
to.
Why
don't
we
do
this
or
why
don't
you
do
that?
Or
do
you
realize
I'm
here
and
I
want
to
speak,
I'm
under
the
impression
that
we
are
only
answering
back
and
going
back
and
forth
with
folks
in
a
live
setting
so
that
it
can
be
recorded
and
so
that
the
public
knows
what
everybody
else
knows.
Is
that
correct?
Mr
woman?
A
A
Right
so
I
would
caution
all
of
us
not
to
react
to
anything
that
may
come
down
the
pike
on
the
on
the
chat,
because
it's
unfair
to
all
participants.
A
Do
we
have
any
other
questions
from
our
commissioners
of
staff,
okay,
hearing
none,
then
we
will
ask
for
public
comment
or
I'm
sorry
for
the
comments
on
this
agenda
item
right
now.
So,
ms
vasquez,
will
you
call
this
item?
Please.
B
Okay
looks
like
currently,
we
have
20
individuals
who
have
requested
to
speak
on
the
item.
Speakers
are
allowed
two
minutes
and
for
the
record,
35
written
statements
have
been
submitted
to
in
support
33
opposed
to
staff
recommendations.
B
J
Hi
everyone.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
appreciate
everyone
listening,
I
am
against
striping
bridgegate.
I
do
not
believe
that
I
think
we're
talking
about
separate
issues.
In
my
my
perspective,
all
of
the
incidents
and
traffic
issues
that
have
happened
on
bridgegate
is
due
to
speed.
Not
collisions
head-on,
collisions.
All
in
my
my
awareness
is
they.
J
All
incidents
have
been
single
vehicles
that
have
run
up
on
the
curb
or
run
up
into
somebody's
yard,
and
I
think
that
striping
will
make
our
neighborhood
street
of
bridgegate
look
like
a
main
thoroughfare.
I
don't
believe
striping
reduces
speed.
I
think
it
allows
people
the
ability
to
go
a
little
bit
faster,
and
I
think
that
the
striping
also
does
not
address
the
pedestrian
crossing
issue
that
we
have
at.
J
That
is
also
on
the
south
side
of
the
street,
between
willsbrook
court
and
westlake
boulevard,
and
I
think
we
are
dodging
the
issue
by
talking
about
painting
stripes
and
turning
this
into
a
main
thoroughfare
looking
street
when
it's
a
residential
street
and
we
we
need
to
put
in
measures
to
help
pedestrians
cross,
which
would
also
bring
traffic
to
a
stop
at
certain
points
on
that
street,
and
I
and
jim,
I
appreciate
everything.
You've
done.
You've
been
super
responsive
of
gentlemen.
A
A
J
A
Mr
kennedy,
hi,
okay,
let
me
move
on
with
the
next
speaker
and
try
mr
kenny
hud
at
the
end
of
our
speakers.
Sure.
K
My
name
is
michelle:
hakel
I've
lived
for
23
years
on
bridgegate
street.
I
have
two
children
that
were
born
in
this
house
on
bridgegate
street
that
rode
their
bikes
to
westlake
elementary
school.
I'm
a
triathlete
I
run
and
ride
my
bike.
I
have
countless
miles
on
bridgegate
street
and
I
have
never
considered
the
traffic
on
bridgegate
street
to
be
an
issue.
I
have
never
seen
an
incident
with
a
bike,
a
pedestrian
or
a
car
you're
all
talking
about
collisions
and
that
this
striping
is
going
to
prevent
collisions.
B
K
Eighth
street-
and
I
think
that's
a
real
pro
problem
with
this
whole
project-
is
that
what
you're
doing
is
going
to
create
more
harm
and
risk,
and
I
see
that
on
west
lake
boulevard
caltrans
put
in
striping
and
it's
incredibly
insane
unsafe
now,
so
we
don't
want
to
see
that
happen
to
bridgegate
street.
We
also
don't
want
no
parking
on
the
other
side
of
the
street,
because
then
we'll
have
people
making
unsafe
u-turns
to
get
to
the
north
side
in
park.
The
street
functions
very,
very,
very
well
as
it
is.
K
Yes,
we
have
some
people
that
drive
too
fast,
but
those
people
are
going
to
drive
too
fast,
regardless
of
the
striping.
It
may
stop
them
for
a
few
weeks,
because
they'll
wonder
how
they're
supposed
to
drive
on
it,
but
they
will
go
back
to
their
their
speeding,
just
as
the
commissioners
here
have
noted
that
it
works
for
a
little
bit,
but
a
little
bit
is
not
not
worth
ruining
the
street
in
the
neighborhood.
For.
Thank
you
very
much
and
time
is
that.
A
L
L
Okay,
something's
going
wrong
because
marjorie's
upstairs
and
she
was
going
to
say
something,
and
so
was
I
and
I
got
the
little
button
to
say
on
mute,
so
miss
she's
on
the
phone
trying
to
do
it
so,
okay,
why
don't
we
do
this
here.
A
G
L
Grab
her
good
evening,
everybody
I've
lived
in
my
home
since
1984
and
I
travel
the
road
frequently.
Yes,
some
cars
do
speed
on
bridge
gate,
on
bailcroft
and
in
the
neighborhood,
not
to
mention
our
freeways
and
highways.
Unfortunately,
that's
just
how
life
works.
We
obviously
don't
want
repeat
of
lives
lost,
so
I
feel
this
discussion
is
worthwhile,
but
I
think
there
must
be
some
other
options
to
consider
which
I
don't
think
have
been
addressed.
L
I
don't
feel
turning
our
neighborhood
bridge
feed
into
a
marked
up
road
with
double
yellow
lines,
confusing
hash
mark
painted
shoulders
as
an
answer
to
speeding
cars.
It
might
slow
some
of
these
speeding
cars
initially,
but
because
of
the
commute
confusing
marked
streets
in
the
long
run,
they're
going
to
figure
out
how
to
drive
fast
again
and
we're
going
to
be
right
back
to
where
we
were.
This
is
a
neighborhood
street,
not
a
major
thoroughfare.
L
I
believe
the
city
wants
input
from
people
who
live
in
the
neighborhood
who
drive
the
streets
every
day
and
to
that
point
sending
the
affected
homeowner
letters
was
a
great
idea.
However,
I
find
the
letters
confusing
in
in
that
letter.
You
you
said:
if
you
can't
make
the
meeting
do
do
something
by
march
17th.
That
was
very
confusing.
L
So
for
this
reason
I
think
you
need
to
continue
this
discussion,
so
everybody
can
be
a
part
of
it
in
your
only
provided
options.
A
and
b
you
included
no
parking
on
the
south
side
of
the
street.
I
don't
feel
this
a
good
option.
Very
often,
there's
cars
parked
on
the
south
side
of
the
street
by
hikers
and
bikers
who
use
the
trails
right
at
bridgegate
and
veil
club
now
you're
introducing
pedestrians
crossing
the
street
without
crosswalks.
L
In
addition,
there
are
other
park
cars
that
park
along
that
side,
postal
trucks,
delivery,
trucks,
utility
trucks,
neighbors
stopping
to
use
their
cell
phones
because
they
don't
work
at
the
house.
I
personally
feel
the
hash
mark
painted
shoulders
are
very
confusing
unsightly
and
unnecessary,
but
also
I
only
I
also
understand.
A
E
Yes,
marjorie
ormsby
west
lake
village.
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you
for
your
opportunity
to
speak.
I
prepared
for
three
minutes
but
to
truncate
the
areas
that
I
had
emailed
you
all
just
to
address
new
information.
Okay,
so
I
see
that
speeding
and
safety
is
the
issue,
but
I
believe
that
striping
is
not
the
solution.
E
E
You
say
you
can't
add
humps
of
speed,
limit
signs
that
are
truly
effective
approaches
here
because
of
a
code
then
change
the
code
lines
won't
equal
safe
for
streets.
It
seems
like
striping
is
the
easiest
choice?
Not
the
best
one
with
street
striping
vision
will
be
even
more
impaired.
Take
a
look
at
your
minute.
E
We
crawl
out
of
the
strap
sign
at
vailcroft
avenue
to
try
to
peer
around
it
to
see
if
a
car
is
approaching.
That
van
is
a
safety
hazard
for
all
on
bill,
croft
and
perhaps
a
reason
for
the
two
accidents
you've
noted
option
b
would
interfere
even
more
with
that
line
of
vision,
as
it
pushes
cars
closer
to
the
parking
side
of
the
street
where
vision
is
impeded,
possibly
causing
more
accidents.
Moving.
That
van
would
largely
address
your
gap
crossing
judgment
onto
bridgegate
from
veilcroft,
also
over
the
past
30
years.
E
The
trees
on
the
south
side
of
the
road
have
uprooted
the
asphalt
and
all
of
us
drive
towards
the
middle
to
avoid
the
roots
many
times,
we've
waited
a
long
time
before
the
issue
is
addressed,
lines
will
not
deter
residents
from
avoiding
those
roots
when
they
reappear,
and
they
will
option
will
be,
will
be
more
impacted
with
this
situation,
as
the
driving
lane
will
be
closer
to
the
uprooted
trees.
Your
time
is
up.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
E
Sorry,
just
so,
you
know
usually
there's
an
unmute
button
for
everyone
to
click,
but
the
way
that
you
have
it
set
up.
You
have
to
find
it.
So
that's
why
people
are
having
a
hard
time
you
might
want
to
scan
on
the
pictures,
people
who
are
having
a
hard
time
finding
the
unmute
when
it's
your
turn,
okay
traffic
commissioners.
Mr
mashiko,
thank
you
very
much
for
giving
us
this
time
to
speak.
E
My
name
is
robin
stidham
myself
and
my
husband
have
been
thousand
oaks
residents
for
over
25
years,
we've
owned
the
house
that
we
live
on
right
off
of
bridgegate
for
24
years.
E
We
love
foxmoor
hills,
we
love
our
neighbors
and
we
love
our
neighborhood
and
we're
very
concerned
about
turning
bridgegate
into
what
would
really
look
like
an
urban
street
people
have
mentioned
about
the
striping
on
west
lake
boulevard.
What
they
didn't
mention
is
they
didn't
even
give
us
a
turn
lane
to
turn
onto
bridge
gate.
So
when
you
even
mention
striping
people
just
cringe,
because
it
is
ridiculous.
What
goes
on
in
that
striping?
It
just
makes
people
more
confused.
E
People
have
also
mentioned
about
the
date
of
march
17th
to
submit
correspondence
on
being
the
deadline,
and
so
I
also
do
agree
with
that
that
you
have
one
minute.
Thank
you.
The
other
thing
that
I
did
want
to
mention
and
thank
you,
mr
michiko,
for
sending
the
the
staff
report,
because
I
have
been
reading
it
and
trying
to
understand
why
you
can't
have
the
speed
limit
reduction.
E
Why
we
can't
have
speed
pumps,
why
you
can't
have
all
of
these
things
and
I'd
like
to
ask
if
there's
any
kind
of
dispensation,
because
this
street
is
in
a
neighborhood
and
it
it
it
does
not
go
out
to
anything.
It
just
stops
to
30
320
homes
that
maybe
there's
a
dispensation
that
we
could
use
because
it
just
seems
like
we
missed
the
idea
of
having
25
mile
per
hour,
because
we
have
45
feet
instead
of
the
40
feet
and
because
our
homes
aren't
facing
bridgegate.
E
A
A
And
I'd
just
like
everyone
to
know
that
you
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
unmute
until
it's
your
time
to
speak
so
then
you'll
see
either
the
red
microphone
by
your
name
or
you
will
or
you'll
see
three
dots
at
the
top
of
your
own
screen
that
allow
you
to
unmute
or
you
can
go
to
the
bottom
left
screen
general
screen
and
unmute
that
way.
Mr
copeland,
europe.
Thank
you.
D
Can
all
right
awesome?
Okay,
so
I
live
on
bill
croft
and
have
been
there
for
the
last
five
years.
I'm
I
generally
oppose
any
lining,
but
at
the
same
time
I
understand
the
desire
to
control
the
traffic.
It's
a
fairly
bizarre
area
because
of
the
width
of
west
lake
boulevard
right
in
that
area,
as
well
as
the
width
of
the
road.
As
you
turn
onto
bailcroft.
Excuse
me
onto
bridgegate.
D
I
am
definitely
against
the
turn
lane,
because
the
turn
lane
would
make
no
sense
the
only
people
that
are
going
to
be
turning
into
the
streets
or
the
people
that
are
turning
north
and
that's
the
ones
that
are
coming
in.
If
you're
coming
south
exiting
the
neighborhood,
it's
very
very
few
people
are
going
to
be
coming
out
and
turning
left,
so
the
turn
lane
just
simply
is
is
not
necessary.
D
D
And-
and
I
can
see
the
danger
there-
it's
very
difficult
to
see
them
even
when
I'm
not
texting
or
playing
on
the
web
on
my
phone
as
I'm
driving
I'm
kidding,
but
these
people
are
in
danger
and
I
love
the
idea
of
the
bike
lane,
so
maybe
just
a
simple
center
line,
if
you
absolutely
feel
it
necessary,
but
definitely
a
bike
lane
would
help
bring
the
traffic
more
into
the
center
and,
at
the
same
time,
I
think
help
give
the
controls
that
you're,
looking
for
as
well
as
the
protection
to
the
people,
but
again,
I'm
also
in
agreement
with
the
majority
of
my
neighbors
and
that
the
I'd
like
to
try
to
avoid
any
additional
markings
just
because
it
preserves
the
neighborhood
part
of
the
of
the
street.
D
The
last
quick
comment
which
is
not
going
to
be
germain
to
tonight
is
that
traffic
light
at
westlake,
boulevard
and
bridgegate
is
horridly
unable
to
recognize
cars,
as
you
come
in
from
bridgegate
to
westlake
boulevard
and
it's
causing
a
lot
of
people
to
run
the
red
light,
especially
on
the
weekends,
because
the
sensitivity
is
really
off.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
your
time
is
up,
but
we,
but
I
know
staff
will
record
that
concern
and
look
into
that
and
if
they
don't
get
back
to
you
directly,
then
we'll
we'll
have
that
information
at
our
next
meeting.
I
do
want
to
let
people
know
so
that
they
don't
waste
some
of
their
space
and
their
comments
that
the
striping
that
took
place
on
westlake
boulevard
was
done
two
years
ago
and
that
was
under
the
supervision
of
caltrans
city
of
thousand
oaks
literally
had
nothing
to
do
with
that.
A
A
E
Well,
yes,
I
can
hear
you
too
and
I
go
along
with
brad
and
marjorie
and
michelle
hegel
and
all
the
rest
of
them
that
live
in
this
area.
I've
been
here
for
44
years,
and
I
have
not
in
this
house
up
on
a
bridge
gate
and
I
have
never
just
like
rest
like
michelle
said.
I
have
never
really
here
seen
a
lot
of
people
speeding
and
they
do
not
pass
you.
If
you're
coming
in
off
of
west
lake
boulevard
they're,
not
passing
you
like,
they
do
on
west
lake
boulevard,
everybody
is
pretty
cordial.
E
You
know
that
you
just
do
and
even
going
out
nobody
if
you
had
that
middle
line
in
that
middle
lane
in
there
you'd
find
people
it's
a
turning
line.
You
find
people
passing
each
other
all
the
time.
I
think
that
I
think
the
striping
is
absolutely
horrible
and
the
only
thing
that
I
have
had
a
problem
with
it's
sometimes
like
on
one
of
the
pictures
you
showed.
We
have
one
minute
which
was
going
north.
I
guess
it
was
down
at
the
corner
of
bridgegate
and
brookview
a
car
parked.
E
There
are
our
work
cars,
which
was
one
time
when
the
house
and
the
corner
was
being
renovated.
It
was
paint
trucks
and
work
trucks
and
all
that,
and
also
when
somebody
comes
down
to
work
on
those
control
panels,
they
park
there
and
you
have
to
end
up
going
out
onto
the
into
the
middle
of
the
road
in
order
to
see
if
anybody's
coming,
because
they
block
the
line
of
sight
and
that's
a
very
important
part.
So
you
don't
want
people
parking
on
the
north
side
of
the
street
at
corners.
E
E
E
Great,
so
I've
lived
here
since
94..
My
name
is
rod
mclead
from
west
side,
west
lake,
and
I
was
curious
as
far
as
what
we're
trying
to
address
at
this.
I
asked
you
know:
what's
the
problem
statement,
if
it's
safety,
the
first
thing
is:
why
don't
we
have
a
crosswalk
where
the
kids
are
crossing
the
streets
right
in
front
of
the
the
legal
center
or
right
there
by
the
post
box,
they're,
not
walking
down
the
west
lake
to
cross
the
street
there
and
coming
back
to
the
bus?
E
A
E
All
right
so
I'll
reclaim
the
time
that
you
took
mike
what
we're
trying
to
address
with
this
entire
striping
issue.
I
don't
understand
the
way
of
trying
to
make
this
street
look
like.
I
mean
thoroughfare,
because
it's
not,
I
heard
the
word
feeder
street.
This
is
a
community
street.
There
are
people
that
live
on
bridge
gate
so
that
doesn't
make
sense.
The
statements
we
made
about
striping
don't
address
speeding,
they
don't
address
accidents,
they
don't
address
anything.
B
D
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
sir
hi
guys,
my
name
is
brandon
bertel
and
I
live
here
in
west
lake
village,
just
off
bridge
gate.
D
First,
I
want
to
thank
all
you
guys
for
taking
the
time
to
you
know,
review
the
dangerous
feed
issues
here
at
long
bridge
gate,
I'm
a
veteran
of
the
united
states
marine
corps,
I'm
a
graduate
of
ucla,
I'm
a
proud
father
of
three
and
my
wife,
and
I
bought
our
home
here
off
bridgegate
several
years
ago,
mostly
because
of
what
a
safe
and
amazing
community
it
is.
I
love
living
here.
D
D
First,
the
traffic
report
was
conducted
at
the
height
of
a
once
in
a
century
event
where
traffic
was
reduced
to
almost
zero.
I
do
not
feel
that
the
report
reflects
the
high
volume
of
traffic
traffic.
I've
waited
past
two
years
prior
and
I
see
it
picking
up
again.
I
routinely
see
vehicles
traveling
in
excess
of
60
miles
per
hour
and
I'd
like
you
guys
to
look
at
the
photos
I
submitted
to
jim
of
the
two
accidents
on
my
at
my
house
and
in
front
of
my
house.
D
The
first
accident
is
a
car
of
a
young,
a
car
that
crashed
onto
my
property.
It
almost
completely
into
my
house,
going
over
60
miles
per
hour.
We
got
over
40
thousand
dollars
in
property
damage
and
I'm
just
lucky
that
one
of
my
kids
wasn't
killed
or
someone
wasn't
dangerously
hurt.
The
second
accident
is
that
another
individual
who
crashed
through
the
I
don't
know
what
you
call
that
thing,
but
the
gate
there,
along
bridge
gate
and
his
carl
went
to
the
wash.
D
He
almost
hit
an
old
woman
before
he
crashed
through
there
at
an
excessive
high
speed.
Those
two
accidents
are
not
the
accidents
that
michelle
described
earlier.
Those
two
accidents
are
not
in
jim's
report
that
you
guys
have.
I
am
now
averaging
two
major
accidents
at
my
house
or
in
front
of
my
house
a
year.
Your
time
is
up,
accidents
are
crowley
from
speed.
I
need
your
help
guys
thank.
A
You
thank
you
for
your
comments,
mr
bertel,
before
you
leave.
Thank
you
also
for
your
service.
Let's
move
with
our
next
speaker,
please.
B
E
Hi
annie
alexander
and
I
live
in
westlake
village.
I
have
two
children
who
attend
west
lake
elementary.
I
oppose
striping
on
bridgegate,
because
I
do
not
want
it
to
look
like
a
main
thoroughfare
and
I
feel
that
it
doesn't
effectively
slow
cars
and
it
also
doesn't
provide
crossing,
which
is
a
major
issue.
E
I
do
not
feel
safe
having
my
kids
across
gate
to
go
to
school.
The
crossing
sign,
unfortunately,
hasn't
worked.
The
sun
is
in
driver's
eyes.
They
drive
way
faster
than
the
speed
limit,
which
is
already
pretty
high,
especially
at
the
broad.
The
bottom
of
bridgegate
rick
also
brought
up
a
great
point
that
locals
eventually
stop
following
the
rules,
and
I
feel
that
stop
signs
will
not
have
that
issue.
Thank
you.
A
E
E
I
have
never
found
there
to
be
an
issue
with
safety
on
the
road
that
road
striping
would
resolve,
and
the
speeders
will
continue
to
speed,
and
I
think
the
reason
that
everyone
is
bringing
up
the
west
lake
road
striping
done
by
caltrans
is
just
showing
an
example
of
how
road
striping
does
not
work.
If
it
doesn't
work
on
westlake
boulevard
and
cars
are
not
paying
attention
to
the
striping
there,
then
why
would
it
be
something
that
people
pay
attention
to
in
our
residential
neighborhood?
E
I
too
feel
that
stop
signs
would
be
a
better
solution.
So
thank
you.
A
F
E
E
F
Agree
that
if
we
do
striping,
it
really
doesn't
impact
the
behavior
patterns
of
people
driving.
F
B
M
Yes
hi:
this
is
john
ellis
resident
of
wesley
village
for
over
20
years
in
foxmoor.
Hills
now
for
over
four
years
appreciate
the
time
for
everyone
tonight
and
I
think,
as
you
heard
repeatedly
from
everyone
here,
you
know
our
primary
issue
that
we're
dealing
with
here
really
is
speed.
M
Overall,
though,
I
think
we've
got
three
main
issues:
speeding
being
the
biggest
one,
of
course
across
the
board,
and
while
I
think
bridgegate
is
not
really
a
main
thoroughfare
in
the
in
the
same
sense
that
westlake
village
or
wesley
boulevard
is,
it
is
a
main
thoroughfare
actually
for
everyone
in
foxmoor
hills,
and
I
think
it's
a
big
problem
why
we
actually
have
speeding,
because
you
essentially
have
everyone
who's
trying
to
come
in
and
out
of
foxmoor
hills
using
that
as
the
quickest
way
to
sort
of
get.
M
You
know
out
to
the
101,
and
so
unfortunately,
it's
also
on
a
hill.
So
you
have
a
lot
of
people
who
basically
are
either
speeding
to
get
home
or
speeding
to
get
out
of
here,
and
it
just
creates
a
huge
issue.
Another
major
issue
that
we're
facing
is
visibility.
Turning
on
the
bridge
gate
from
parked
cars,
so
you
have
people
who
are
parking
on
bridge
gate,
really
making
it
impossible
for
one
minute
around
the
area.
M
In
fact,
there's
a
motor
home
right
now,
outside
of
my
court-
that's
been
sitting
there
that
I
really
can't
see
when
I'm
turning
out
and
then,
of
course,
I
think,
as
mike
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
is
you've
got
people
crossing
bridge
gate
at
the
bottom
of
the
hill
close
to
our
court,
and
so
I
think
the
proposed
center
stripe
solution
is
only
gonna,
not
really
gonna
slow
cars
down
and
the
side
striping's
only
gonna
make
the
visibility.
Worse.
M
B
Okay,
we're
going
back
to
see
who
else
is
available
max
kenny
hodd,
please
click,
unmute
and
state,
your
name
and
city
of
residence
for
the
record.
A
A
Mr
kenny
had
can
you
hear
us?
I
believe
that
after
two
tries
we're
going
to
need
to
move
on
and
then
move
on
with
our
meeting.
Please.
B
Okay
jay
bertel,
please
click
unmute
and
state,
your
name
and
city
of
residence
for
the
record.
E
Hi,
my
name
is
jessica
bertel
and
I
live
in
westlake,
west
lake
village
and
right
on
bridgegate.
Basically,
I
have
three
little
kids,
all
under
10
who
use
bridge
gate
with
myself
and
go
on
bike
rides.
We
go
to
west
lake,
we
go
to
the
green
belt
every
single
day
and
I
have
a
bird's
eye
view
of
bridgegate
and
I
will
say,
speeding
is
absolutely
a
problem.
I
see
cars
go
up
to
60
miles
an
hour
up
and
down
bridge
gate.
E
I
know
some
of
the
residents
say:
that's
not
a
problem,
because
I
have
that
bird's
eye
view.
I'm
able
to
see
it
every
day
all
day
and
I'm
like
I'm
usually
in
the
kitchen
watching
I
don't
think
striping
will
help.
E
I
honestly
think
that
we
need
something
to
make
the
cars
stop
so
that
these
kids
and
pedestrians
feel
safe,
walking
on
bridge
kids
going
to
school
kids
going
to
the
bus.
Stop.
We
need
a
stop
sign,
I
believe.
Maybe
we
need
crosswalks
speed
humps
right
now.
We
just
have
an
open
wide
street
where
people
are
gunning
it
back
and
forth.
You
have
one
minute.
E
I
think
that's
it.
I
think
that
might
be
it.
I
will
say
I've
seen
three
car
accidents
in
the
last
two
years.
I
know
those
were
in
the
report,
but
I
saw
them.
I'm
not
sure
why
maybe
they
weren't
in
the
police
report,
but
I've
seen
it
with
my
own
eyes.
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
jim
shiko
who's
been
working
with
me
for
a
year
and
a
half
now
several
emails,
several
phone
calls
and
I
really
appreciate
working
with
us
and
helping
us
out.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you,
miss
patel,
our
next
speaker.
B
I'm
sorry
does
someone
have
who's
the
next
speaker
who
missed
after
amy
david.
C
Perhaps
we
can
allow
any
of
the
remaining
speakers
who
didn't
have
a
chance
to
be
heard.
There's
a
raised
hand
function.
A
Okay,
I
don't
I
don't,
have
the
ability
to
see
any
hands
raised,
do
either
of
my
colleagues
all
right,
how
many
people
were
there
that.
C
We
received
one
one
raised
name
so
far:
okay,.
E
E
E
One
minute:
okay,
thank
you,
I'm
just
wondering
if
there
were
other
issues
or
other
options
that
were
considered
other
than
striping,
because
none
of
us
believe
that's
going
to
fix
the
problem.
A
C
We
see
one
additional
speaker
and
that's
amy
davis.
A
A
All
right,
so
let
me
try
this.
There
are
three
different
ways.
Depending
on
how
you're
on
with
us
that
you
can
unmute,
you
can
unmute
by
putting
your
cursor
to
the
top
right
above
your
name
and
choose
unmute
from
the
menu
that
you
can
cause
to
drop
down.
You
can
go
to
the
bottom
left
of
your
screen
and
choose
to
unmute
that
way,
but
we're
going
to
need
to
move
our
meeting
along.
Can
you
please
try
all
of
those
ways
to
unmute
ms
davis.
K
K
C
J
This
bowling,
this
is
actually
a
mark,
her
her
husband
and
I
just
wanted
to
just
briefly
just
sort
of
agree
with
our
neighbors,
the
bertels
and
just
say
we
do
hear
the
speeding.
You
know
at
all
hours
of
the
night
going
up
and
down
the
street
and
disagree
with
the
striping
aspect.
J
Don't
think
that
that
really
will
help
just
as
long
you
know
as
much
as
everyone
else
has
basically
been
saying
and
think
that
a
stop
sign
or
some
bump
somewhere
along
the
line,
if
that's
possible,
is
probably
the
best
way
to
curb
this
speeding
that
that
does
happen
and
that
we
do
hear
you
know
at
odd
occasions
and
and
and
they
did
they
had
cars.
J
Turning
up
from
bridgegate
onto
brookview
go
into
their
front
yard,
it's
dangerous.
They
have
kids
and
you
never
know
who
could
have
been
out
there.
People
walking
people
walk
along
that
street
and
up
a
brook
view
and
down
bridge
gate
all
the
time,
and
if
someone
had
been
there
it
could
that
could
have
been
a
fatality.
So
I
just
feel
like
if
there
is
a
way
to
have
one
minute
on
the
code
and
and
and
do
something
in
that
regard,
that
would
be
great.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
poland.
I'm
going
to
make
the
assumption
that
is
our
last
speaker
of
the
evening.
Is
that
correct
I,
before
before
we
open
things
up
for
questions
from
our
commissioners,
because
we
do
have
two
of
our
commissioners
that
are
relatively
new.
I
want
to
make
certain
that
we
are
efficient
in
the
way
we
discuss
this.
So
it's
important
for
you
to
know
that
there
is
no
benefit
in
us
discussing
a
stop
sign
period.
A
Stop
signs
are
not
permitted
to
control
speed.
That's
not
our
jurisdiction,
that's
the
state
of
california!
Believe
me,
not
only
have
I
heard
many
requests
for
stop
signs
over
12
years.
I've
made
many
requests
for
stop
signs
over
12
years
and
after
after
having
the
benefit
of
attending
seminars
and
learning
the
facts.
A
Stop
signs
are
not
a
considered
option
here,
so,
unfortunately,
our
residents
are
not
always
aware
of
that.
In
regards
to
speed
humps,
there
are
certain
warrants
that
need
to
take
place
and
certain
things
that
need
to
take
place
and
that's
not
necessarily
out
of
the
question,
because
another
traffic
study
could
take
place
in
a
higher
volume
time
and
maybe
yield
one
of
those
warrants.
A
A
Last
but
not
least,
we
are
always
fortunate
to
have
the
opportunity
to
listen
to
as
many
citizens
as
possible,
but
unlike
city
council
or
even
planning
commission,
a
planning
commission
deals
with
the
rules
and
code
as
they're
set
forth
and
they
and
city
council
do
have
a
lot
more
rights
than
we
do.
Our
responsibility
is
simply
based
in
safety,
as
opposed
to
convenience
or
aesthetics,
and
so
with
that,
I
would
like
to
open
up
questions
of
staff
by
all
of
our
commissioners
before
we
do
any
discussion
amongst
ourselves.
A
G
G
As
far
as
the
notes
I
took
yeah-
and
I
want
to
expand
on
some
of
the
comments
you
made
stop
signs.
I
think
those
are
one
of
the
most
frequently
received
requests.
We
get
probably
on
every
street
in
the
city,
because
people
think
they're
for
speed
control
they're
not
for
speed
control,
they're
for
regulating
right
away
at
the
busiest
intersection
in
the
city.
G
I
think
if
we
had
stop
signs
at
you
know
every
other
intersection.
You
know
you're
going
to
take
20
minutes
just
to
get
you
know,
half
a
mile
and
so
yeah
there
are
warrants
to
you,
know,
determine
when
stop
signs
can
be
put
in
and
those
are
based
on
an
eight-hour
period.
We
look
at
roughly
500
vehicles
per
hour,
averaging
in
each
of
those
eight
hours,
200
from
the
minor
leg
300
on
the
major
and
for
this
type
of
street
you're
not
going
to
reach
those
levels.
G
People
ask
for
speed
humps,
as
commissioner
lemmel
said.
Yes,
there
are
requirements
for
that.
A
petition
process
is
what
gets
it
going,
but
those
are
reserved
for
our
25
mile
per
hour
residential
streets.
This
is
35
miles
per
hour.
If
we
were
to
put
speed
humps
on
the
street,
we
would
have
to
have
some
overriding
circumstances
to.
You
know
deviate
from
our
standards
on
something
like
that.
G
Other
people
asked
for
reducing
the
speed
limit
it's
35
miles
per
hour
and
that's
set
on
state
law.
The
vehicle
code
governs
on
how
we
set
our
speed
limit.
We
perform
a
radar
survey
of
the
vehicles
traveling
the
street
and
based
on
what
the
drivers
are
driving.
It's
it's.
What
we
call
the
85th
percentile
speed.
We
set
the
speed
according
to
that
speed
that
most
people
are
driving,
and
I
think
the
the
other
issue
was
for
oh
crop
mark
crosswalks,
mark
crosswalks.
G
We
do
have
a
crosswalk
marking
policy,
it's
also
another
very
common
request
that
we
get
and
they
are
not
devices
to
control,
driver,
behavior
or
slow
people
down
because
usually
mark
crosswalks
are
invisible
to
to
a
driver.
If
you're
about
200
300
feet
away,
you
probably
can't
see
that
there
is
a
mark.
G
Crosswalk
present,
but
we
do
put
you
know,
put
those
in
in
certain
circumstances
where
there's
a
continuous
high,
continuous
high
flow
of
pedestrian
activity
from
you
know
where
there
may
be
a
destination
point
where
there's
a
continuous
draw
of
people
always
wanting
to
cross
the
street
and
all
these
intersections.
G
These
are
all
legal
crossing
points,
whether
it's
marked
or
unmarked,
so
a
mark
crosswalk.
Is
there
also
to
use
to
be
used
when
it's
not
clear
that
you
know
that's
the
crossing
point,
but
all
these
intersections
along
bridgegate.
Those
are
all
legal
crossing
points,
whether
it's
marked
or
or
unmarked.
G
Someone
asked
the
question
earlier
on.
You
know.
Why
are
we
looking
at
this?
I
pointed
out
early
in
the
presentation
that
the
main
issues
here
are
speed,
pedestrian
safety
and
then
the
poor,
driving
behaviors
and
those
are
always
hard
to
control.
G
There's
not
a
whole
lot
of
measures
out
there
in
the
traffic
engineering
world
to
control
driving
behavior,
because
you
know
everything
rests
on
the
compliance
and
what
the
driver
is
going
to
do.
Speed
humps
are
one
of
the
few
devices
that
we
do
use
that
can
control
driver
behavior
because
it's
going
to
influence
drivers
when
they
feel
that
physical
jolt
on
the
vehicle
it's
when
they
drive
over
a
speed
hump,
that's
going
to
influence
them
to
drive
a
bit
slower.
G
I
think
the
safest
route
is
probably
using
the
signal
at
westlake
and
bridgegate,
because
most
of
the
homes
or
all
the
homes
are
on
that
that
north
side
of
the
street.
So
if
they
stay
on
that
north
side,
they
continue
down
bridgegate,
they
get
to
the
signal
at
westlake.
They
have
the
signal
controls
there
in
place.
They
have
the
pedestrian
buttons
and
displays
to
guide
pedestrians
across
the
street,
and
you
know
let
the
pedestrians
know
when
it's
their
time
to
to
cross.
G
Okay,
someone
asks:
is
there
a
way,
maybe
that
there
can
be
overriding
considerations
to
implement
some
of
the
measures
like
you
know,
speed
humps,
stop
signs
things
like
that.
That's
something
that's
out
of
staffs
hands
at
this
point.
You
know
we
are
bound
to
the
rules
and
regulations,
usually
by
the
vehicle
code,
traffic
traffic
manuals
and
things
like
that.
If
the
commission
feels
that
maybe
the
street
has
some
overriding
circumstances,
they
can
identify
what
they
are
and
then
we
can.
G
We
can
take
a
look
at
you
know
putting
in
some
of
the
devices
that
we,
you
know,
typically,
wouldn't
that
wouldn't
qualify
for
this
type
of
roadway.
G
Another
person
mentioned
about
the
signal
at
westlake
at
bridgegate.
The
delay
there
as
they
try
to
get
out
of
bridgegate
is
very
long.
We
did
follow
up
on
that
request
because
someone
voiced
that
to
us
a
couple
days
ago,
so
we
got
a
hold
of
caltrans.
They
advise
us
that
the
signal
detection
there
at
the
intersection
is
damaged
so
they're,
going
to
schedule
repairs
to
get
that.
You
know
back
up
and
running
again
so
that
the
signal
changes
much
quicker
than
what
it
is
today.
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
before
we
go
to
commission
discussion,
we
will
open
up
for
our
commissioners
to
ask
questions
of
staff.
A
M
I
was
using
my
raised
hand.
M
So
I
there's
a
few
questions
and
maybe
maybe
if
I
can
kind
of
recite
a
few
things
and
maybe
jim,
can
you
take
some
of
those
down
or
whoever
might
be
the
best
to
to
answer
them?
I
thought
I
heard
I
thought
I
heard
someone
in
the
beginning
parts
of
the
report
that
the
speed
limit
on
on
bridge
gate
at
this
particular
part
is
35
miles
an
hour,
but
the
average
speed
that
we've
seen
with
what
we've
seen
is
37.
G
Yeah,
when
we
did
our
surveys
in
in
october,
this
is
during
the
pandemic.
As
someone
had
mentioned,
we
didn't
have
any
data
for
this
road.
In
terms
of
you
know
what
the
daily
traffic
volumes
are
and
what
the
speeds
are
other
than
the
radar
survey
that
we
use
to
set
this
speed
limit.
G
So
we
set
out
our
traffic
counting
devices,
which
are
those
rubber
hoses
that
you
relay
across
the
street,
and
we
got
our
daily
traffic
volume
of
about
just
about
1500
vehicles
per
day,
and
then
those
devices
can
measure
speed
and
we
had
an
85th
percentile
speed
of
37
miles
an
hour
which
means
85
of
the
traffic
is
traveling
up
to
37
miles
per
hour
or
less,
and
the
speed
limit
is
35.
So
that's
pretty
much.
I
mean
for
this
type
of
road.
G
This
is
very
a
common
speed
limit
that
you
see
on
comparable
roads,
but
yeah
I
mean
during
the
course
of
a
day
there
are
going
to
be
speeds.
They're
going
to
be.
You
know,
up
to
10
miles
per
hour
faster
and
then
there's
going
to
be
the
drivers
who
drive
significantly
slower
than
sir.
G
M
Yeah,
so
certainly
during
the
pandemic,
the
number
of
the
the
traffic
volume
might
be
suppressed,
but
I
wouldn't
expect
that
the
distribution
of
speeds
would
be
any
different
than
than
what
we
might
see
at
any
other
time
right.
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
get
it
get
a
sense
if
I
had
heard
that
right
second
thing
was
there:
you
had
mentioned
with
respect
to
like
the
crosswalks
or
any
any
of
these
other
things
you
had
mentioned
kind
of
a
con.
M
A
continuous
pedestrian
traffic
as
being
one
of
the
kind
of
like
threshold
conditions
is
to
consider
that
I
I
gather,
though,
based
upon
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
the
concerns
are
less
about
continuous
pedestrian
traffic
and
more
about
the
times
at
which
there's
a
significant
amount
of
pedestrian
traffic,
and
mostly
children,
trying
to
get
back
and
forth
from
west
lake
elementary
and
doing
school
drivers.
So
there's
going
to
be
surges
in
in
where
that
is
so.
Are
there
particular
ways
for
us
to
take
that
into
account
with
respect
to
what
we
do?
M
G
G
I
mean
just
by
being
out
there
just
judging
I
mean
again,
this
is
during
the
pandemic,
school's,
not
in
session.
You
know,
our
pedestrian
accounts
are
probably
not
going
to
be
that
high,
but
also
keep
in
mind
that
on
that
south
side
of
the
street,
you
know
most
of
that
road
has
no
sidewalk.
G
So
if
you
were
to
start
from
the
north
side
to
get
to
the
south
side,
there
is
no
sidewalk
there.
So
if
we
put
in
a
marked
crosswalk
it's
going
to
lead
to,
you
know
the
side
that
has
no
sidewalk,
and
that's
probably
not
you
know.
The
best
thing
that
you
want
to
encourage
is
to
guide
a
pedestrian
where
there's
no
receiving
sidewalk.
G
M
M
People
might
not
want
to
go
there
if
they
feel
like
there
isn't,
isn't
much
traffic
to
cross
the
road
so
that
they
can
get
to
the
school
without
having
to
deal
with
that.
I
think
I
mean
I
feel,
like
that's
kind
of
fundamentally
one
of
the
concerning
issues
that
we're
kind
of
being
asked
to
deal
with
right
now,
right,
yeah,.
G
G
I
know
in
the
past
we've
we've
seen
reports
where
the
pedestrian
collision
rates
are
actually
higher
when
it's
marked
versus
when
it's
unmarked,
because
the
fact
that
when
it's
marked
sometimes
the
pedestrians
crossing,
they
drop
their
guard.
They
see
that
there's
painted
lines,
there's
markings
they
they're,
not.
You
know
paying
attention
to
oncoming
traffic
because
they
feel
that
false
sense
of
security.
But
when
it's
unmarked,
you
know
they're
more
likely
to
keep
their
eyes
on
oncoming
traffic
their
head
up,
not
looking
at
their
phone
things
like
that.
M
And
you
mentioned
that
in
the
report,
and
I
think
that
that
these
are,
I
think,
all
the
challenging
issues
that
we're
we're
having
to
deal
with
here.
The
one
other
thing
one
one
of
the
other
members
of
the
public
that
came
and
spoke
with
us
sort
of
asked.
I
understand
that
the
policies
say
these
are
the
reasons
why
we
can't
do
things
and,
as
always
mentioned,
some
of
these
things
are
caltrans
that
one's
a
harder
one.
Some
of
these
things
may
be
city
policies,
but
are
are
there?
M
Is
it
clear
that
there
is
a
what
that
difference?
Is
that
it's
clear
that
this
neighborhood
would
not
qualify
under
that
that
it
seems
like
they're
just
under
threshold
to
be
able
to
have
the
policy
go
against
them?
One
of
the
things
that
that
I'm
just
thinking
of
is
that
that
the
the
it's
the
width
of
the
road
is
46
feet.
M
Not
that
I
want
a
solution,
these
things
get
to
be
really
expensive,
but
if
you
reduce
the
you
know,
if
you
had
hard
barriers
and
reduce
the
actual
roadways
to
40
feet,
you
know
those
get
to
be
expensive.
Things
are
those
are
those
options
or
those
things
that
that
this
this
neighborhood
are
able
to
lobby
for
that's
that
are
reasonable.
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
they
they,
I
think,
they're
looking
for
the
creative
ways
for
them
to
help
their
their
safety
issues
right.
G
Yeah,
you
know
again
when
we
have
our
engineering
rules
and
regulations,
we
have
to
more
or
less
follow
them.
If,
if
you
know
like
the
traffic
commission,
if
you
feel
like
this
is
a
neighborhood
or
the
street,
you
know
there's
some
special
circumstances
here
that
you
believe
the
you
know
requirements
that
staff
has
to
follow.
You
know
you
know
we
should
deviate
from
them.
You
can
make
a
recommendation
to
counsel,
and
you
know
then
that's
something
that
we
can.
G
You
know
consider,
for
example,
like
speed
humps,
one
of
the
issues
with
speed
humps.
This
is
a
collector
road.
This
feeds,
you
know
we
only
mailed
320
homes
in
this
neighborhood.
It
probably
feeds
probably
over
400.
So
if
you
put
speed
humps
on
this
collector
road,
you
know
the
first
thing
that
the
fire
department,
their
concern,
is
response.
Time.
M
G
Again,
if
you,
if
you
put
in
introduced
speed,
humps
on
a
road
like
this-
and
this
is
about
a
third
of
a
mile
long,
you
know
that's
quite
a
bit
of
speed,
humps,
that
the
fire
truck
would
have
to
drive
through,
say
if
there's
an
incident
at
the
very
end
of
the
street.
M
Yeah
all
right,
I
think,
I'm
those
are
a
number
of
questions.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
for.
A
I
G
No,
I
I
don't
think
we
would
we
would.
We
would
have
changed
the
recommendation
that
you
know
in
this.
A
G
I
guess
the
reason
why
that's
more
of
a
pro
for
a
home,
that's
taking
side
frontage
is
that
their
front
window
is
not.
You
know
staring
right
at
if
you
put
in
road
striping
versus.
If
it's
you
know,
they're
taking
side
frontage,
their
front
window
is
looking.
You
know,
dirkily
across
the
street
on
on.
You
know
the
side
street
that
they
front.
G
No,
that's
not
a
determining
factor.
We,
I
guess
we
just
wanted
to
point
out
all
you
know
for
road,
striking
over
the
years
that
we've
been
putting
in
road
striking
just
wanted
to
point
out.
You
know
the
things
that
we've
encountered
and
what's
sort
of
been
the
the
benefits
or
what
are
maybe
some
of
the
reasons
why
it
would
make
it
more
beneficial
to
put
it
in
versus
not
really
putting
it
in.
I
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
the
the
residents
you
know
part
of
their
concerns
about
the
striping
piece.
If,
if
you
know
kids
aren't
playing
on
front
lawns
in
front
of
it
and
it's
on
the
side
of
your
houses,
it's
not
directly
visible.
I
What
the
the
main
concerns
would
be
from
from
a
perspective
of,
I
guess,
aesthetics
of
what
it
looks
like
or
having
to
look
at
it
or
such
so.
Okay.
I
The
other
thing
is
the
so
have
we
done
speed
enforcement
on
that
road
like
do
we
have
any
data
as
like?
Has
there
been
do
we
they're
tickets
issued?
Has
there
been
any
type
of
of
follow
through
from
from
the
complaints
and
being
new?
I
don't
know
so
I
don't
know
how
these
things
like
are
generated.
I
The
report
says
that
we
received
you
know,
complaints
from
from
residents
and
such
so
are
there
like
set
numbers
like
how
many
complaints
we
get
that
dictates
movement
in
this
direction
or
something
that
we
do
and
do
we
take
the
steps
of
of
doing
some
kind
of
speed
enforcement
first
on
site
before
we
even
get
to
this
point.
G
Well,
typically,
when
we
receive
concerns
like
the
ones
that
we're
voice
here,
speeding
seems
to
be
the
number
one
issue
we
do.
You
know
they
contact
the
police
or
the
or
we
do
pass
their
concerns
on
to
the
police
department
for
enforcement.
G
They
they
did,
deploy
a
radar
trailer
for
for
some
time
where
it's
it's
that
equipment.
That
says
you
know
your
speed
is,
and
it
tells
the
driver.
That's
you
know,
driving
by
what
the
speed
that
they're
driving
to
discourage
them
from
from
speeding.
A
I'd
like
to
interrupt
here
for
one
second
and
give
it
admonishment
to
both
our
commissioners
and
to
our
participants
listening
at
home.
Please
do
not
send
any
messages
via
chat
to
the
commissioners,
because
it's
not
available
to
the
whole
public
and
the
commissioners
are
only
allowed
to
weigh
what
you
were
here
physically.
Speaking
of
so
comments
on
the
staff
report,
the
commissioner's
comments
and
all
that
I
would
ask
you
please
not
to
send
it
because
it
does
not
fit
the
criteria
of
making
it
available
to
the
public.
Go
ahead.
I
D
Yeah
the
first,
the
first
part
of
it
is
education
with
the
radar
trailer
which
was
put
out
there
as
part
of
the
request
and
then
based
on
that
and
going
out
there
and
being
present.
We've
done
that
there
have
not
been
very
many
of
any
tickets
issued.
That
I'm
aware
of.
I
don't
know
what
period
of
time
you're.
L
D
For
as
an
answer,
but
we
have
been
out
there,
but
when
the
totality
of
the
circumstances
of
the
city,
that
is
a
smaller
portion
of
where
we
can
spend
our
time.
A
One
thing
that
I'd
like
staff
to
explain
particularly
to
our
new
commissioners
is
the
baileywick
that
we
are
in
with
the
police
and
speed
limits.
Because
years
ago,
many
years
ago,
over
25
years
ago,
there
was
a
traffic
engineer
here
in
thousand
oaks,
and
I
believe
he
went
all
the
way
to
the
state
supreme
court
and
got
a
ruling
that
if
the
police
had
people
85
percent
of
the
people,
they
stopped
over
the
speed
limit
that
speed
limit
could
be
raised
because
they
were
viewed
as
a
speed
trap.
A
So
if
the
best
thing
that
I
can
say-
and
I
would
ask
staff
to
explain
it
more
professionally,
but
it's
one
of
those
things
of
be
careful.
What
you
wish
for,
because
if
you
have
a
ton
of
people,
speeding
and
people
think
this
is
crazy.
As
do
I.
But
if
you
have
a
bunch
of
people
speeding
on
your
street,
you
may
get
your
speed
limit
raised,
not
likely
to
happen
on
a
residential
street
because
of
other
factors.
A
But
we
should
never
forget
that,
because
if
speeding
is
a
real
problem,
the
police
have
to
tell
the
truth
and
when,
when
they
have
enough
people
speeding
kiss
your
old
speed
limit
goodbye.
But
I'd
like
staff
to
explain
that
a
little
bit
more
professionally
and
efficiently
than
I
did.
G
Oh
okay,
yeah.
I
think
that
goes
back
to
years
and
years
ago
you
know,
there's
a
practice
called
downward
speed
zoning,
where
I
believe
the
traffic
speed
limits.
Were
you
know,
they're
influenced
a
lot
by.
You
know
the
public,
so
you
know
some
of
the
speed
limits
were
set
lower
than
what
the
radar
surveys
that
we
you
know
our
data.
That
shows
what
most
people
are
traveling
they're.
G
They
were
set
too
low,
so
the
courts
came
down
on
the
cities
and
and
said
you
know
you
have
certain
speed
limits
that
are
set
too
low.
You
guys
cannot
enforce
the
speed
limit
unless
you
reset
them
properly.
So
I
think
we
had
a
handful
of
those
streets
in
the
city,
so
we
had
to
increase
the
speed
limit
by
in
most
cases
it
was
five
miles
an
hour
because
we
had
them.
You
know
set
too
low
in
general.
G
That's
when
you
know
speed,
trap
comes
in
and
then
the
the
tickets
are
not
upheld
in
court
and
you
have
to
raise
the
speed
limit,
but
most
of
our
streets
right
now
we're
in
real
good
shape.
We
did
go
through
a
little
period
where
some
of
the
speed
limits
were
increased,
but
you
know
right
now
we're
in
very
good
shape
in
terms
of
our
speed
limits
being
legal.
I
Yes,
so
can
I
can
I
get
some
clarification
on
like
what
is
the
the
process
here,
like
how
many
complaints
do
we
have
to
get
before
we
initiate
any
kind
of
action
like
like
on
this,
for
example,
I
mean
I
I
would
like
to
see
like
some
data
on
this
to
say
you
know,
we've
gotten
complaints
from
80
residents
or
100
residents
or
like
is
there
some
kind
of
set
criteria
that
we
use
where
we
follow
up
with
this
and
then
what,
at
what
stage
is?
Is
this
in
as
far
as
a
recommended
response,
meaning.
A
First
of
all,
first
of
all,
there
are
no.
There
are
no
numbers
that
I've
been
aware
of
for
12
years
that
I've
been
under
commission.
There
are
absolutely
no
numbers
when
it
comes
to
safety,
it
could
be
one
person's
complaint.
It
could
be
three
people
complaining
after
an
accident
happened,
it
could
be
one
person
complaining
who's
brand
new
to
the
neighborhood
and
they
have
more
kids
and
everybody
else
in
the
neighborhoods
retire.
A
I
don't
believe
that
I
have
ever
seen
there
be
a
criteria
before
something
comes
to
the
commission
and
that
works
the
other
way
as
well.
We
may
have
25
people
complaining
about
something
and
if
certain
actions
aren't
taken
by
those
25
people,
it
doesn't
necessarily
come
to
the
commission.
So
this
is
a
complaint
that
has
been
regular
for
at
least
two
people
that
I'm
aware
of
both
of
which
I
believe
spoke
this
evening,
but
to
my
knowledge-
and
I
will
always
be
corrected
by
staff.
A
To
my
knowledge,
there
is
never
a
benchmark
when
it
comes
to
a
safety.
Concern
is,
is
that
correct?
Mr
michiko
yeah.
G
Yeah,
that's
correct,
I
mean
you
know.
I
mentioned
that
we
looked
at
okay,
lowering
the
speed
limit.
You
know,
possibility
of
speed,
humps
stop
signs.
We
took
some
measurements
of
you
know.
I
believe
it's
a
willsbrook
court
to
put
in
always
stop
sign.
So
we
took
our
measurements
there
to
see
if
it
qualifies
for
stop
sign
control,
and
then
we
also
evaluated
for
putting
in
mark
crosswalk.
G
So
the
answer
to
all
those
different
engineering
solutions
they
were
not
satisfied
and
therefore
we're
down
to
striping
striping
is
something
that
we
can
put
in.
It
doesn't
have,
you
know
any
specific
warrants,
but
if
you
look
at
what
the
concerns
are,
striping
could
resolve
some
of
the
issues,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
you
know
taking
it
to
the
neighborhood.
If,
if
they're
open
to
the
idea
of
striping
we're
asking
the
question
and
right
now,
it
seems
like
they're
not
open
to
that
idea
of
striping.
A
It's
interesting,
though,
I
want
to
make
a
point
that
I
I
kept
track
of.
The
majority
of
people
were
not
interested
in
striping.
There
is
no
doubt
about
those
who
spoke
tonight.
I
will
also
tell
you
that
I
have
counted
here.
Roughly
75
percent
of
the
people
who
spoke
tonight
stated
that
speed
is
a
problem
there.
They
just
don't
like
the
aesthetics
or
they
don't
believe
striping
will
work.
A
So
I
want
to
make
certain
that
we
separate
what
we're
allowed
to
separate.
I
care
about
safety.
I
care
about
people's
concerns
when
someone's
breaking
or
appear
to
be
breaking
the
law.
Aesthetics
are
very
low
on
the
on
the
totem
pole
because
we're
not
the
planning
commission,
we're
not
a
design
review
board,
we're
here
solely
to
deal
with
safety.
So
I
want
to
make
certain
that
everybody
knows
that
we
did
get.
A
C
Yeah
no,
I
was
just
going
to
also
comment
that
while
there
isn't
a
criteria
to
elevate
issues
or
to
evaluate
streets
for
safety
improvements
for
each
of
the
selected
alternatives,
many
of
them
we've
been
discussing.
There
are
defined
criteria
that
are
set
and
approved
by
either
the
state
or
the
city
council
for
such
as
we
discussed
earlier,
speed,
humps
and
stop
signs
and
so
forth.
So
there
are
numerical
criteria
for
those,
and
in
this
particular
instance,
we
do
have
data
in
terms
of
traffic
counts
and
speeds
that
were
obtained
again.
C
It
had
been
mentioned
that
they
were
obtaining
during
a
period
of
time
where
you
know
they're
suppressed
the
traffic
accounts.
At
that
point,
in
time,
that
could
be,
one
option
is
to
you
know,
re-evaluate
as
the
schools
are
gearing
up
seemingly
for
a
full
opening
in
the
fall,
so
things
could
continue
to
be
evaluated,
but
at
the
moment
you
know,
generally,
we
have
a
blank
slate
out
there.
The
street
doesn't
have
any
significant
striping.
There
are
some
signage
and
so
forth,
but
it's
kind
of
a
blank
slate
to
make
the
traffic.
C
You
know
calming
measures
with
striking.
That
has
been
done
elsewhere
in
the
city
and
empirically
the
idea.
L
C
When
you
narrow
a
lane,
people
will
drive
a
little
more
cautiously
than
they
will
if
they
have
the
entire.
You
know
46
foot
of
a
blacktop
in
front
of
them
to
you,
know
kind
of
drive
through
so.
A
I
Questions
along
those
lines,
then
I
mean
what
I
will
say.
What
I
would
like
to
see
is
you
know
we're
making
these
statements.
As
to
that
you
know
the
it's
going
to
slow
traffic
people
are
going
to
stay
within
the
lanes.
It's
going
to
control
speed.
I
Well,
what
I
would
like
see
I
mean:
are
there
any
any
type
of
of
any
other
road
in
the
city
where
we
have
done
this
similar?
I
know
it's
not
going
to
be
exact,
but
something
parallel
where
we
did.
These
pre
took
data
beforehand
and
then
took
some
data
posts
to
say
yes,
striping
does
work
right
and
I
I
understand
that
the
striping
pieces
on
main
roads
are
are
one
thing,
but
on
through
residential
streets
I
think
may
be
different.
So
that's
something
that
I
would
say
hey.
I
You
know
what
we
did
this
on
road
x,
y
and
z.
Here
was
the
data
beforehand
and
here's
the
data
after
to
show
that
you
know
I'm
just
looking
for
that
justification.
I
want
to
support
this,
but
I'm
looking
for
that
justification
to
say
that
yeah
we're
going
to
strike
the
street
and
it's
going
to
have
an
impact.
C
Yeah
yeah,
we
don't
have
a
data
with
us
right
now,
but
we
do
have
speed
data
that
we
periodically
record
for
streets,
and
we
can
cross-reference
that,
with
some
of
these
improvements
that
have
been
made,
I
will
say
that
it's
not
not
going
to
be
an
appreciable
you're,
not
going
to
see
a
10
mile,
an
hour
drop
just
with
striping.
I
mean
that
you
need
more
physical
barriers
and
to
try
to
achieve
something
like
that.
C
However,
as
we
mentioned
earlier,
it
looks
like
the
traffic
speed
data
that
was
collected,
matches
the
speed
limit
of
the
street
generally
35
and
37.
So
that
doesn't
seem
to
be.
You
know,
an
area
that
that
that's
a
that's,
a
great
variance
from
the
posted
speed
limit.
A
Yeah
I
do
want,
I
think,
there's
many
benefits
to
striping
that
go
beyond,
but
mr
michiko,
then
let's,
let's
get
the
rest
of
commissioner
hayek's
questions
and
we
still
have
commissioner
fletcher
with
questions
and
yet
we
still
have
discussion
later.
G
G
I
think
all
those
streets
were
striped
already
when
the
developments
were
built.
This
is
one
of
those
situations
where,
when
when
this
development
was
built,
the
the
decision
was
made
just
to
keep
the
road
unmarked
and
now
you
know,
there's
concerns
being
raised
because
of
the
way
you
know
with
that
wide.
With
a
roadway.
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
want
to
address.
We
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
discuss
two
two
of
the
public
comments
tonight
mention
insufficient
notice,
and
I
just
want
to
confirm
attachment.
Five
is
the
copy
of
the
residential
notification
letter
received
by
the
neighbors
correct,
because
that
would
that
would
indicate
it.
It
did
have
proper
june
notice
and
not
the
march
notice,
as
as
was
mentioned
earlier,.
G
Yeah
I'm
looking
at
attachment.
Five.
The
there
was
an
error
in
the
bottom
paragraph
where
it
was.
I
did
it,
let's
say,
march
17th,
meaning
I
see
it
now,
yeah,
that's
the
part
where
the
residents
were
discussing,
but
the
top
of
the
the
letter.
The
date
of
june
is
is
correct
and
the
meeting
date
is
is
correct.
H
Okay,
my
because
my
biggest
concern
obviously
is
is
notice
and
being
at
a
public
meeting.
You
have
that
correct
notice
notice
on
there.
Thank
you
for
that
clarification.
I
just
wanted
to
come
back
to
that
kind
of
coming
back
to
what
the
chair
said,
and
I
commissioner
ferris
mentioned
it.
I
think
kind
of
encompassing
some
of
his
comments.
H
Can
you
just
confirm
with
me,
because
we
have
so
much
of
the
neighborhood
on
a
lot
of
the
way
we
do
things
and
the
way
we
operate
are
really
based
on
state
law
and
traffic
manuals
written
by
really
california.
The
state
of
california
is
is:
is
that
correct.
G
Yes,
that's
correct:
we
have
a
couple
rules
and
regs
that
our
city
council
has
adopted
like
the
speed
humps
and
the
crosswalk
marketing
policy,
but
usually
99
are
more
or
less
from
the
state.
H
G
Yes,
you're
correct:
that
is
a
vehicle
code
issue.
H
Within
reason,
we
have
some
ways
of
going
around
that
on
the
let
me
find
it
in
the
staff
report
just
so
I
can
reference
it
properly.
H
The
parking
issue
you
mentioned
in
the
staff
report
that
the
city
is
currently
in
the
process
of
this
is
page
three
of
the
staff
report
just
to
about
midway
down.
H
The
city
is
currently
in
the
process
of
restricting
parking
along
the
south
side
of
the
street
in
response
to
a
petition
from
the
neighborhood
that
was
encompassed
in
a
lot
of
our
public
comments
tonight,
but
it
doesn't
seem
to
be
part
of
what
we're
being
asked
to
decide.
It
sounds
like
it's
already
being
handled
and
addressed.
Is
that
correct,
or
are
we
to
also
kind
of
address
the
parking
issue.
G
G
You're
not
asked
to
look
at
the
parking
issue,
that's
something
that
we're
handling
separately.
There's
you
know
we're
making
a
decision
whether
or
not
it
should
be
a
no
parking
anytime
or
no
overnight
restriction.
I
think
people
made
some
comments
regarding
that.
H
Yeah
and
that's
really
the
only
reason
I'm
bringing
it
up
is
just
because
it
was
part
of
public
comment.
I
want
to
just
be
very
clear
for
the
folks
listening
tonight
what's
really
before
us
and
then
what
is
already
being
addressed
and
handled
by
staff.
I
think
it's
an
important
distinction
so
that
you
know
we
don't
lose
any
of
our
audience.
H
Sorry,
I
just
had
one
more
again
coming
down
to
your
staff
report
on
page
six
about
midway
through,
and
I
think
this
was
addressed
a
little
bit
in
commissioner
hayek's
comments
or
answers
to
his
his
questions.
You
mentioned
the
recommended
course
of
action
is
an
incremental
approach
to
problem
solving
so
assumably.
H
The
actions
we
could
take
tonight
are
really
a
first
step,
and
I
think
you
mentioned
earlier
that
city
staff
could
essentially
keep
looking
at
the
issue
and
seeing
if
any
of
those
warrants
or
thresholds
are
met
later
on,
as
we
get
out
of
the
pandemic,
open
up
our
schools
and
and
see
how
the
traffic
patterns
may
change
is.
Is
that
correct.
G
Yeah
that
that's
correct,
generally,
when
we
look
at
traffic
solutions,
you
know
not
one
thing
is
going
to
fix
everything,
so
you
always
can
start
small.
Then
work
your
work.
Your
way
up
on
these
measures.
H
Okay-
and
I
think
again,
that's
that's
an
important
distinction
to
make
here
tonight
is.
Is
we
have
options
before
us?
Traffic
patterns
change
things
change?
We
can
still
continuously
look
at
this
issue
and
address
it,
but
you
know
finally,
actually
that
last
com
last
con.
It's
more
of
a
comment,
so
I'll
reserve
that
for
later
on,
in
this.
A
Okay,
after
we've
heard
some
of
these
questions,
commissioner
ferris,
please.
M
Thank
you.
I
just
did
have
one
more
question
and
I
think
this
kind
of
comes
back
into
the.
I
get
the
sense
that
the
one
of
the
main
concerns
of
pedestrian
traffic
and
crossing
is
is
because
of
the
pedestrian
traffic
going
to
school,
and
it's
do
they
currently
have
like
a
crossing
guard
or
some
something
there
to
be
able
to
help
mitigate
any
of
those
traffic
concerns.
M
A
C
M
M
This
is
a
it's
a
pedestrian
thoroughfare
for
school-aged
children
potentially
to
just
to
get
to
the
the
school
which
is
is
in
the
area,
but
maybe
not
immediately
adjacent.
I
don't
know
if
that
is
something
that
is
able
to
be
looked
into
because
it
seems
like
that
would
be
something
that's
very.
M
They
want
the
traffic
to
stop,
certainly
to
help
pedestrian
traffic.
The
stop
sign's
not
going
to
do
it
the
crossing.
You
know
the
crosswalk
painting
isn't
going
to
do.
I
mean
those
are
the
things
that
we've
kind
of
talked
around.
Are
there
solutions
to
deal
with
the
real
problem
which
seems
to
be
coming
to
our
attention?
That's.
A
Thank
you
any
other
questions
of
commissioners.
A
I
guess
what
I
I
will
do
is
put
forth
a
motion
just
to
get
us
on
the
on
the
get
an
emotion
on
the
table
for
discussion
purposes.
A
I
think
that's
probably
the
way
for
us
to
begin
a
solution
here.
I
believe
that
recommendation
of,
if
I,
if
I'm
correct
in
in
my
notes
here,
the
preferred
option
between
one
and
two
by
staff
was
option.
One
is
that
correct.
G
A
A
Okay,
unless
we
were
to
have
a
24
hour
a
day,
seven
day
a
week,
police
force
at
every
single
intersection
and
mid
block
on
every
street.
Nothing
is
foolproof.
I
believe
that
striping
is
a
great
initial
measure.
A
I
do
not
know
if
we
will
need
to
go
further
and
try
and
come
up
with
other
solutions
that
we
don't
have
before
us
now,
but
I
do
know
that
striping
does
work
as
a
calming
measure
that
doesn't
mean
that
it
wipes
out
speed
violations.
A
A
A
I
also
realize
that
there
are
things
that
are
off
the
table.
We
should
also
know
that
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
city
council
is
the
only
ones
who
can
go
against
or
or
change
from
state
law
is
because
there's
a
financial
situation
to
the
city.
When
you
go
the
opposite
of
state
law,
the
city
is
financially
responsible
or
financially
liable,
and
so
for
that
reason
I
put
the
option
b
forward
for
minimal
striping
and
that's
the
motion
on
the
table
and
we
will
open
it
up
now
for
council
discussion
and
comment.
A
I'm
sorry
for
commissions,
discussion
on
that
motion,
so
who
would
like
to
go
first.
M
I'll,
okay,
I'll
kick
it
off.
I
I
think
I
I
think
we've
we've
seen
today
there's
that
this
is
a
very
challenging
situation.
There's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
things
here,
that's
been
brought
to
our
attention,
there's!
No
as
they
like
to
say
it's
like.
If
this
were
easy,
it
had
already
been
done
by
now
right.
M
So
so
I
you
know,
I
I'm
at
that
point
where
I
do
see
the
pros
and
the
cons
that
have
been
listed
out
in
the
report
and
from
my
review
and
listening
to
the
testimony
and
listening
to
some
of
it,
I'm
maybe
less.
I
see
less
of
the
pros
being
true
pros
so
that
whenever
it
comes
into
the
balance
of
them,
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
the
right
solution
to
move
forward
with
in
order
to
to
to
deal
with
the
situation
at
hand.
M
One
one
specific
comment
on
the
this
was
at
the
option
b.
I
I'm
actually
I'm
actually
not
in
favor
of
that
one
only
because
there
was
a
gentleman
that
brought
up
a
good
point,
which
was
it's
a
left
hand.
It's
a
it's
a
turn
lane,
but
the
turn
lane
only
makes
sense
if
you're
coming
east
out
of
the
thing,
because
that's
the
only
place
where
you
can
end
up.
M
M
You
know
more
more
lanes
and
and
limited
lanes
for
people
to
move
through,
but
they
still,
it
may
just
be
temporary,
and
people
may
feel
compelled
that
it's
it's
not
something
that's
useful
in
in.
What's
there,
I
also
you
know,
I'm
striping,
I
like
striping
in
my
neighborhood.
I
can
also
understand
you're
right
next
to
this
green
belt
and
and
the
striping
sort
of
it
does
change
the
aesthetic
of
there.
It
was
listed
as
a
con
in
in
the
the
staff
report,
and
I
I
I
empathize
with
that.
M
I
think
that,
for
the
reasons
why
I
don't
think
it's
it's
gonna
address
the
issues
at
hand.
For
that
reason,
probably
not
in
favor
of
the
motion.
But
again,
I
I
think
it's
it's
more
you're
trying
to
figure
out.
Is
it
51-49
one
way
or
another?
I
think
this
is
a
really
really
tough
decision
so
and
I
appreciate
staffs,
I
think,
diligent
work
and
trying
to
really
lay
a
lot
of
these
things
out
and
being
responsive
to
the
neighborhood,
so
whether
we
fall
yay
or
nay.
M
On
a
motion,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
all
understands
a
lot
of
good
hard
work
here.
So.
H
Thank
you.
You
know,
I
think,
a
lot
like
commissioner
ferris.
I
I
struggle
with
the
idea
of
of
striping
as
being
a
solution,
but
you
know
I
keep
coming
back
to.
Maybe
I
keep
coming
back
to
what
mr
chair,
you
said,
and
this
was
my
comment
that
I
reserved
is
really
it's
a
it's
a
safety
mechanism.
It's
it's
safety
is
what
our
concern
is.
Safety
is
what
this
body's
concern
is,
and
I
look
at
so.
H
If
I
vote
against
and
this
motion
were
to
fail
or
if
it
you
know,
it
is
the
will
of
of
this
group,
nothing
gets
done
and
the
problems
still
remain.
The
safety
issues
still
remain,
and
at
best
we
have
city
staff.
That's
going
to
address
the
parking
issue
on
the
south
side
and
then
I
also
kind
of
struggled
with
why
option
b-
and
I
came
back
to
what
commissioner
ferris
mentioned
on
the
public
comment-
being
that
seems
kind
of
silly
to
put
a
middle
turn
lane
in
there.
H
H
F
H
Very
very
tripped,
and
hopefully
that
accomplishes
the
overall
goal
is
to
reduce
the
speed
so
and
I
I
also
came
back
to
you
know
the
question
I
asked
mr
michiko:
is
it's
an
incremental
step?
It's
not
going
to
solve
the
problem
tomorrow.
It's
not
going
to
solve
the
problem.
You
know
in
the
summer
when
they
get
get
get
all
this
thing
painted,
but
I
think
it's
it's
it's.
It's
the
right
step
to
solve
or
begin
to
address
this
issue.
H
So
I
I'm
on
the
side
of
supporting
option
b
and
staff's
recommendation,
because
I
I
don't
see
the
other
options.
I
mean
I'd,
love
to
see.
You
know
dedicated
bike
lanes
in
there.
That's
just
a
personal
preference,
but
if
we
reduce
the
south
side
to
no
parking,
I
think
the
bikes
will
figure
out
where
they
can
and
cannot
go.
I
think
the
safety
mechanism,
for
you
know
bikes
coming
out
of
that
area
and
going
along
west
lake
to
go
around
the
lake
and
I
think
that'll
be
addressed.
H
So
you
know
I'm
generally
supportive
of
option
b,
but
you
know
I
kind
of
come
back
again
to
what
commissioner
ferris
said.
It's
it's
it's
a
5149
because
aesthetically,
I
don't
think
it's
necessarily
the
best,
but
with
the
options
we
have
based
on
state
law
and
what
regulations
we
have
to
operate
under,
I
think
it
will
begin
to
hopefully
address
speed
because
they
may
not.
You
know
our
public
comments
largely
said.
There
is
a
speed
problem
there
and,
if
safety's
our
priority,
then
we
should
be
looking
at
ways
to
address
speed.
I
So
if
we're
saying
that,
there's
a
speed
problem
there,
it's
based
on
comments,
but
the
the
the
data
revealed
that
85
percent
of
the
cars
coming
down
are
below
37
or
below.
What
is
that
a
comparison
to
a
regular
residential
street?
Is
that
higher
or
lower,
or
is
that
around
where
residential
streets
sit.
A
Well,
am
I
to
understand,
or
can
we
understand
as
a
group
that
15
of
the
drivers
are
over
37
miles
per
hour
on
that
street,
at
85
percent
or
37
and
under
you've
got
a
fair
assumption?
A
That's
correct,
so
so
the
question
is
you
know
how
what
how
many
of
them
are
over?
Okay,
no.
I
A
A
So
I
I
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
commissioner
hayek's
mouth,
but
if
you
were
to
compare
this
on
similar,
I
don't
know
how
many
residential
streets
we
have
in
thousand
oaks
that
are
35
miles
an
hour
okay,
but
there
is
a
significant
incremental
difference
between
25
miles
per
hour
and
35
miles
per
hour.
So
if
we
all
believe
this
really
is
kind
of
a
residential
street
that
has
the
right
to
be
35
miles
an
hour,
then
the
way
I
look
at
it
from
a
data
driven
standpoint
is
holy
smokes.
A
A
I
So
in
the
in
the
report,
parkview
drive
and
campus
drive
both
similar
35,
leading
to
a
25
mile
per
hour
zone
and
michael
drive
a
little
bit
different
30
to
a
25..
So
we're
we've
been
saying
that
striping
helps,
but
we
don't
I
haven't
seen
we
haven't
presented
data
that
shows
it
helps
in
these
types
of
streets.
We've
brought
up
roads
like
arbelis
and
other
main
roads
and
thoroughfares
with
speed
limits
of
upwards
of
50
miles
per
hour.
So
my
my
question
is:
you
know,
work
we're
acknowledging
that
speeding.
I
I
So
if
in
a
similar
street
like
parkview
or
michael
or
campus,
drive
is
if,
if,
if
you
measure
you
do,
the
same
kind
of
study
on
those
streets
is
15,
something
that
you're
going
to
see
on,
because
you're
not
going
to
see
100
on
every
on
any
street.
So
you're
going
to
always
going
to
see
above
and
below
so
is
15
in
that
range,
where
you
would
expect
to
see
vehicles
outside
of
the
posted
speed
limit.
C
Yeah,
I
think
this
directly
correlates
to
the
how
the
speed
limits
are
set
so
because
they're
set
based
on
the
85th
percentile,
the
fact
that
80,
you
know
the
35
and
37
are
very
close
to
each
other
and
that
a
15
of
the
traffic
is
traveling
above
37
that
matches
right
up
with
how
the
speed
limit
was
set
for
the
streak
which
was
set
for
35
miles
an
hour
based
on
the
fact
that
85
percent
of
the
traffic
is
traveling
below
that
and
15
is
traveling
above
that,
so
any
35
million
our
street
in
the
city.
C
A
The
challenge-
that's:
what's
posted
the
challenge
that
we've
always
had
as
we
we've
always
tried,
strived
to
have
some
kind
of
data
support,
not
just
for
making
a
decision,
but
for
going
back
and
judging
whether
that
decision
was
good,
bad,
fair
or
needed
to
be
looked
at
again
is
that
there
are
really
no
similar
situations.
Every
situation
is
different.
I
can
tell
you
what
was
explained
to
me
many
years
ago.
A
If
you
have
a
situation
that
lived
with
the
kids
that
were
under
16
years
old
for
the
first
16
years,
their
parents
moved
in
there
as
soon
as
all
those
kids
got
cars.
All
the
data
changed
instantly,
so
you
know
we're
we're
dealing
with
for
one
of
a
better
way
of
saying
we're
dealing
with
a
moving
target.
Always
that's!
Why
I'm
not
I'm
not
the
brightest
bulb
on
the
tree
when
it
comes
to
data.
A
A
A
I
think
that
if
this
this,
I
think,
is
a
medium
interim
solution.
I
think
this
is
something
that
staff
is
going
to
look
at
a
long
time
and
bring
us
back
into
it
if
necessary,
but
I
think
we
need
to
remember
that
it
is
incremental
and
it
is
there's
no
decision
that
we
will
make
here
ever
that
is
foolproof
and
there's
also
no
decision
that
we
can
make
only
based
upon
data,
because
if
we
were
fortunate
enough
for
that
to
happen,
then
our
staff
wouldn't
need
a
commission.
A
A
I
will
tell
you
one
little
bit
of
data
that
I
have
heard
or
that
I
would
like
to
use
in
regards
to
the
road
diets
that
have
taken
place.
Already.
A
Complaints
went
down
significantly
to
me
when
complaints
go
down,
then
I
would
next
go
to
do
accidents
go
down
reportable
reported
accidents,
then
I
would
go
to
the
police
and
say
well.
Have
you
checked?
Did
speed
go
down
as
well
right?
All
of
those
things
play
into
it.
For
me,
the
only
thing
that
never
plays
into
it
for
me
is
aesthetics.
C
Just
one
more
first
sake
of
comparison,
parkview,
which
is
35
feeding
into
a
25
similar,
is
this
as
the
center
turn
lane
that
was
implemented
into
it.
So
it's
not
unstriped.
It
has
striping,
which
include
the
center
turn
lane.
H
H
If,
in
theory,
if
we're
just
going
off
of
obviously
you
know
hard
data
would
change
that
if
we
had
that,
but
that's
my
bigger
issue
is
you're
you're
encouraging
I
mean,
unfortunately,
it's
just
the
way
that
street
is
laid
out
that
we're
encouraging
you
know
if
we
don't
try
to
trim
it
at
that
35
mile,
an
hour
section
we're
going
to
have
an
increased
group
speeding
into
that
larger
neighborhood.
So.
A
I'd
also
like
to
ask
staff
a
question
for
us
to
consider
in
other
areas
other
states-
I've
not
seen
it
in
california,
they
use
something
that
is
loosely
referred
to
as
a
dot
bot
or
a
bot
dot
whatever
it
is
department
of
transportation
dot
in
it
entering
into
a
turning
lane.
Okay,
so
the
protectors
at
either
side
of
turning
lane,
and
I
I
apologize
for
the
dog,
but
I
want
to
try
my
best
to
make
this
point.
Are
we
able
to
put
those
excuse
me?
A
Are
we
able
to
put
those
dots,
those
dots
that
have
a
negative
impact
on
your
tires,
that
you
know
give
you
a
headache
by
crossing
over
them?
Are
we
able
to
use
those
entering
in
and
out
of
a
turn
only
lane,
because
to
me
that
would
be
one
hell
of
a
speed
deterrent
as
well?
You
only
do
it
once
before.
You
realize
you've
knocked
the
alignment
out
of
your
car
and
now
you're
going
to
pay
a
bill
for
speeding
if
it's
not
a
speeding
ticket.
G
No,
we
really
haven't.
I
don't
think
we've
used
those
maybe
years
ago,
those
were
used
at
some
point,
but
the
problem
with
the
rumble
strips
is
that
you
know
the
vibration,
the
noise,
especially
if
it's
near
homes.
I
think
that
might
create
a
lot
of
complaints,
but
it
doesn't
get
them.
It
does
get
the
message
across
to
the
driver.
You
know
they
feel
that
vibration
they're,
probably
going
to
steer
clear
of
driving
over
those
or
or
reduce
their
speed.
A
I
I
would
ask
the
staff
to
answer
it.
I
would
say
that
this
is
the
smallest
basic
instrumental
process,
I'm
aware
of,
but
mr
michiko,
mr.
G
Yeah,
well,
you
know,
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
look
for
a
solution
that
you
know
finds
that
middle
ground
that
people
can
accept,
but
at
the
same
time
is
going
to
be
effective
and
you
know,
as
we
mentioned
striping
it
can
do
some
things.
It
may
reduce
speeds
one
or
two
miles
an
hour.
You
know
long
term,
but
it's
not
a
permanent
change
in
driver
behavior,
but
at
the
same
time
the
difficulty
here
seems
to
be
that
the
neighborhood
disagrees
with
the
aesthetic
portion
of
it.
C
And
also
another
alternative:
if
we're
talking
about
incremental
approach
would
be
to
do
the
center
line
striping
only
as
a
starting
point
and
then
do
the
elements
that
mr
mishiko
mentioned,
and
then
you
know
evaluate
further
so
that
we
can
hone
in
on
a
particular
option
that
would
find
that
middleware.
C
If
it's
a
benefit
I
could
put
up,
we
can
put
up
those
four
images
again
for
as
the
altis
since
it's
been,
you
know
maybe
an
hour
or
two
now
that
since
you've
laid
eyes
on
them,
but
it's
up
to
the
commissioners.
C
C
A
C
Let
me
then
go
to
the
next
level.
There
we
go.
C
This
was
a
modified
alternative
to
what
was
in
the
I
think
option
a
in
the
packet
this
one
we
could.
We
could
probably
do
without
that
cross
hatching.
There
were
some
comments
from
the
residents
that
the
cross
hatching
was
not
desirable,
and
so
this
it's
been
blacked
out.
Basically,
so
it's
just
this
edge
line.
C
This
was
implemented
on
valley
on
lakeview
canyon.
Sorry,
a
couple
of
years
ago,
also
to
help
keep
the
cars
away
from
the
homes
to
a
degree
and
kind
of
channel
them,
keep
them
in
a
little
more
of
a
tighter
space
because
they
don't
have
the
whole
wide
street,
and
this
was
the
alternative
with
the
centerline
striping
and
the
bike
lanes.
C
That
was
also
there
and
then.
Lastly,
this
was
the
center
turn.
This
is
the
option
b,
10
return
lane,
which
also
has
blacked
out,
so
it
wouldn't
have
the
cross
hatching.
I
G
25
miles
the
the
last
bro
block
there,
I
believe
there
is
maybe
about
four
or
five
homes
that
take
direct
frontage.
A
So
the
last
I
item
that
you've
shown
on
the
screen
right
now
that
is
option
b.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
all
right,
so
let
me
ask
this
question:
while
we're
having
discussion,
what
would
be
if
we
were
to
look
at
just
for
the
sake
of
our
discussion,
let's
say
b
is
the
most
severe
incremental
approach.
G
Yeah,
the
next
step
down
one
level
down
from
this
would
be
the
option
a
where
it's,
instead
of
that
turn
lane
in
the
middle
just
a
center
line
stripe
with
those
shoulders
the
edge
lines
to
define
the
shoulders,
but
no
no
cross
hatching.
G
A
Should
that
be
necessary
or
do
you
feel
it
needs
to
come
back
to
the
commission
if
we
were
to
go
with
b?
I'm
sorry
with
a.
G
Well,
if
we
implement
something
like
a,
we
would,
you
know,
go
ahead
and
do
some
after
studies
before
and
after
studies,
and
then
provide
the
data
and
bring
the
before
and
after
data
back
to
the
commission.
So
you
can
see
the
what
the
results
were.
A
Okay,
so
I
would
would
you
please
put
a
on
the
screen
and
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
to
ask
our
commissioners
opinions
on
option
a
as
again
we'd
use
the
word
incremental
over
and
over
again
as
a
as
an
incremental
approach,
starting
with
a
I'd
like
to
get
our
commissioners
to
weigh
in
on
that
and
we'll
start
in
the
same
order.
We
went
last
time,
let's
start
with
commissioner
ferris,
commissioner
fletcher
and
ryan
and
and
wind
up
with
commissioner
hyatt,
mr
ferris.
How?
M
So
I
I
don't
think
it
changes
how
I
would
would
vote
on
the
measure,
although
I
will
say
it
does
eliminate
the
what
potentially
is
not
as
functional
part
of
of
option
a
having
a
turn
lane
that
doesn't
provide
any
functionality
for
people
going
west.
It
sort
of
resolves
that
issue,
but
I
don't
think
it
changes
my
it
weighs
it
only
a
little
bit,
but
not
enough
to
change
the
vote.
So.
Okay,
thank.
H
You,
commissioner
fletcher,
could
I
ask
if
we
were
to
go
with
the
option?
A.
H
G
Yeah
under
option
a
yeah
and
or
b,
I
think
we
would
try
to
keep
the
travel
lanes
very
similar
11
feet
in
watt
in
width.
What
changes
is
the
width
of
those
those
shoulders
which
were
the
edge
lines?
The
edge
lines
would
be
further
towards
the
middle
of
the
street.
If
you
just
have
just
the
center
line,
but
then
the
edge
lines
would
be
closer
to
the
homes.
You
know,
because
you're
you're,
adding
in
that
center
turn
lane
under
b.
H
It
understood
I
have
to
tell
you
just
just
real,
quick
and
I'll,
throw
it
out
there
that
I
I
do
like
the
option
without
the
stripe
shoulders.
Having
that
kind
of
on
the
table
is
is
interesting
if
it
means
that
staff
is
going
to
continue
to
continue
to
look
at
it
and
possibly
consider
coming
back
with
some
proposed
changes.
H
I
think
it
was
option.
You
know
you
had
up
on
your
your
screen.
I
think
was
option
b,
option
b
number
one
or
it
just
removed
those
striped
shoulders.
That
was
kind
of
an
something
that
I
would
like
to
bring
up
to.
My
fellow
commissioners.
A
I
I
I
I
think
I
don't
know
I'll
go
with.
I
want
to
hear
what
everybody
has
to
say.
I
will
tell
you
that
we
need
to
eliminate
one
before
we
start
discussing
either
another
or
a
hybrid
of
the
two,
because
we
don't
have
the
benefit
of
having
them
on
the
screen
during
all
of
this
discussion,
so
I
was
under
the
guise
of
trying
to
cause
some
level
of
con
consensus,
as
well
as
calming
people's
concerns
that
we
weren't
incremental
enough.
A
That
was
the
only
reason
why
I
suggested
considering
option
a
so.
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
is
doing
option
a
doesn't
accomplish
anything.
So,
let's
now
go
forward
with
any
other
comments
that
commissioners
have,
because
it
won't
do
any
good.
It's
not
going
to
it's
not
going
to
build
consensus
to
go
with
option
a
from
what
I'm
hearing
I
want
to.
Let
commissioner
hayek
by
all
means
weigh
in.
Do
you
have
comments,
commissioner,.
G
Yes,
yes,
it's
it's,
it
is
46
pretty
much
uniform
and
then
it
drops
transitions
to
that
38
feet.
Width
as
you
get
to
the
very
end.
A
Other
comments:
okay,
we
have
a
motion
on
the
table.
Let's
go
ahead
and
decide
whether
or
not
it's
viable.
Ms
vasquez.
Can
you
call
for
the
vote.
H
A
Option
b,
as
supporting
option
b
as
presented
by
staff,
is
that
option.
A
Let's
have
the
commission
weigh
in
and
see
if
it
means
anything
to,
and
let's
start
this
time,
let's
start
with
commissioner
hyatt,
then
ferris
then
fletcher,
commissioner
hayek.
Does
that
change
anything
for
you
if
the
hatching
is
eliminated.
I
H
I
would
not
necessarily
mind
having
the
hatching
eliminated.
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
cleaner
and
it's.
It
is
a
step
down
in
terms
of
striping,
but
at
least
it
is
a
incremental
another
incremental
step
that
we
can
take
to
kind
of
find
that
happy
medium.
A
H
Well,
I
think
I
think
it
addresses
some
of
the
aesthetic
issues
that
were
raised
by
some
other
commissioners
and
it's
something
that
I
you
know
struggle
with,
and
I
think
that's
something
that
the
we
heard
from
public
comment
is
a
concern
as
to
aesthetics.
So
I
I
mean
I
I
realize
safety
is
the
important
mechanism
here,
but
it
does
kind
of
further
address
some
of
those
other
issues.
A
Okay,
so
here's
what
I
think
we're
going
to
do
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
call
for
the
vote
for
the
motion
as
it
stands,
and
if
we
eliminate
that
motion,
if
that
motion
in
fact
fails,
then
we'll
look
for
another
motion
that
may
be
more
desirable.
So
with
that,
let's
call
for
the
motion,
as
it
was
made
to
it:
support
staff
option
b.
K
I
H
B
H
C
Let
me
this
one.
H
Yes,
I
will
make
the
motion
to
approve
this
as
a
recommendation
being
the
basis
of
it
accomplishes
begins
to
accomplish
the
possibility
of
reducing
the
speed
and
also
takes
into
some
consideration
the
aesthetics
and
some
of
the
public
comment.
We
heard
tonight
trying
to
reach
that
happy
media
and
that
staff
really
is
looking
for
in
the
direction
that
staff
is
looking
for
to
really
continue
to
work
and
and
and
bring
down
this
issue.
H
So
I
I
would
propose,
what's
on
the
screen,
as
recommendation
for
approval,
I
don't
know
where
my
other
commissioners
are
on
that.
But
at
this
point
I'm
looking
for
that
happy
medium.
I
think
I've
kind
of
changed.
E
C
Did
have
the
alternative
with
the
bike
lanes?
It's
slightly
different.
You
know
we
could
fine-tune
things
a
little
bit,
but
did
the
screen
change
to
the
one
with
the
bike
lanes
now,
not
yet
all
right,
yeah,
the
sharing
is
being
very
finicky.
C
Here's
the
here's
that
one
I
was
just
alluding
to.
I
believe
this
is
essentially
it
has
the
same
edge
line
and
then
the.
In
addition,
it
has
a
kind
of
a
defined
bike
lane
to
promote
biking.
H
I
would
because
there
is
no
real,
distinct
difference
long
as
there's
no
real,
distinct
difference
in
the
way
that
those
look
and
they
don't
look
different
to
me,
I
would
I
would
make
amend
my
motion
to
include
the
bike
lanes.
A
M
And
and
maybe
maybe
I'll
try
and
clarify
again,
I
I
feel
this
is
a.
This
is
a
challenging
issue.
I
think
commissioner
fletcher's
maybe
mentioned
it
is
that
if
this
is
in
fact
an
incremental
approach
and
that
we
will
still
have
staff
continue
to
work
on
what
we
think
is
the
right.
I
A
All
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
call
for
the
vote
and
then
I'll
give
you
an
idea
of
what
we're
going
to
end
up
doing.
Ms
vasquez.
Could
you
please
call
for
the
vote.
E
I
H
B
B
Any
person
wishing
to
appeal
a
decision
of
the
traffic
commission
shall
file
written
appeal
and
pay
an
appeal
fee
with
the
city
clerk
department
within
14
calendar
days
of
this
decision.
The
matter
will
be
referred
to
the
city
council
at
the
earliest,
reasonable
and
available
date.
The
appeal
fee
will
be
refunded
only
if
the
city
council
overturns
the
traffic
commission's
decision.
An
appeal
form
is
available
from
the
recording
secretary.
C
Just
a
clarification,
I
guess,
on
a
2-2
vote.
I
guess
that
does
not
constitute
a
approval,
because
we
have
that
was
that
the
final
vote
two
two
year
and
two-nil
the.
A
Way
that
I
would,
I
would
defer
to
the
city
attorney,
I
believe
it
has
to
do
with
the
way
that
it
is
worded.
In
other
words,
if
the
motion
was
made
well,
let's
leave
this
to
the
city
attorney
to
explain
instead
of
me
trying
to
I.
C
A
Okay,
so
what
I'm
going
to
suggest
is
that
these
solutions
are
brought
back
to
discuss
with
the
full
commission
on
at
our
next
meeting.
A
A
A
I
think
that
we,
we
need
to
get
a
more
definitive
approach
from
a
full
commission,
and
I
would
ask
that
an
abbreviated
version
of
this
presentation
take
place
at
our
next
meeting.
Is
that
my
question
for
the
city
attorney
is:
is
that
right
and
proper,
or
when
a
motion
fails?
Is
it
done
until
another
solution
is
brought
by
staff?
What
is
the
proper
way
to
handle
this.
D
Request
that
it
be
brought
back
on
the
next
regular
meeting
and
because
you're
not
dealing
with
the
full
commission
right
now,
you
can
certainly
do
that.
D
You
could
ask
staff
to
provide
some
additional
data
that
would
assist
you
in
making
your
decision.
You
could
ask
staff
to
generate
some
more
data,
that's
not
affected
by
the
pandemic.
That
was
one
of
the
concerns.
So
there's
any
number
of
things
you
can
do
moving
forward,
because
you've
heard
it
doesn't
mean
that
you
can't
hear
it
again.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
so
my
suggestion
would
be
that
we
bring
back
this
this
item
at
our
next
meeting,
when
we
would
anticipate
having
a
full
commission
and
whatever
really
pertinent
data
we
can
get.
I
would
like
to
have
available
to
our
commissioners,
and
you
know
I
I
would
tend
to
think
that
we
are
going
to
get
different
numbers
in
the
fall.
There's
no
doubt
in
my
mind
about
that.
A
I,
I
feel
somewhat
a
sense
of
guilt
by
laying
things
off
to
the
fall
just
because
we
want
to
get
more
information
and
we
tend
to
know
what
that
information
is
going
to
be
okay,
but
you
know,
if
that's
the
way
it
needs
to
be
that's
the
way
it
needs
to
be
so
I
would
like
staff
to
make
a
decision
of
whether
they
feel
it's
better
to
bring
it
back
at
the
next
meeting.
A
So
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
it's
if
it's
worth
it
to
bring
it
back
next
month.
Let's
do
this,
let's
see
what
let's
come
back
with
an
abbreviated
presentation
with
one
of
your
recommendations.
Staff
for
us
to
choose
from
is
delaying
a
decision
until
after
measurement
is
set
up
in
the
fall,
and
let's
let
the
commission
vote
on
that.
A
So
whatever
recommendations
you
make,
if
you
happen
to
make
all
four
of
these
or
you
make
two
add
to
that-
please
a
rationale
to
why
we
would
wait
when
the
dates
that
we
expect
measurement
to
take
place
and
when
that
data
would
be
reported
back
to
us,
and
let's
take
a
look
at
that
at
our
at
our
july
meeting.
Please,
okay,.
A
I
I
don't
believe
that
we
do
need
emotion
on
this
matter.
The
matter
was
disposed
by
the
failure
of
a
motion,
I'm
making
a
request,
which
I
believe
is-
is
my
right
as
the
chair
that
we
bring
this
back
as
an
agenda
item
in
july,
with
one
option
being
placed
in
front
of
the
commission
that
we
can
also
defer
to
specific
data
driven
dates
again
to
the
city
attorney.
M
Point,
chair,
limo,
you
typically
you
you
do
have
that
right.
D
As
any
member
of
the
commission
does,
because
this
has
been
heard
by
the
the
members,
the
commissioners,
I
think
they
they
should
be
allowed
to
weigh
in
on
whether
that
would
be
futile
or
whether
that
would
be
productive,
and
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
prudent
course
of
action.
In
this
case.
A
Okay,
let's
go
ahead
and
take
the
time
to
do
that.
I've.
The
reason
that
I'm
making
an
assumption
that
it
may
or
may
not
be
futile
is
because
we
we're
making
another
decision
with
a
with
a
short
commission.
But
okay,
I
want
to
follow
the
rules.
So
what
is
it
that
we're
going
to
discuss
now?
Because
we're
not
we're
not?
I
do
not
need
to
make
a
motion
we
just
want
them
to
weigh
in.
Is
that
correct.
D
Correct
now,
my
my
the
reason
I
I
bring
it
up
chair
is
that
if,
if
you're
asking
us
just
their
staff
to
come
back
with
just
a
recommendation
on
whether
or
not
they
want
to
do
any
more
research
or
or
that
just
for
informational
purposes,
that's
one
thing:
if
you're
asking
staff
to
come
back
with
something
for
you
to
rule
on
for
to
make
a
decision
on
that,
I
think
would
be
something
that
your
other
commissioners
would
want
to
weigh
in
on
here's.
My
without
anything.
A
A
I
don't
know
what
mechanism
you
use
to
bring
this
back
and
I
think
it's
wrong
for
us,
based
purely
on
aesthetics
for
the
most
part
to
to
ignore
the
facts
that
we
have
been
given,
make
a
ruling
and
then
not
gather
more
data
behind
those
facts
and
take
a
look
at
it.
So
you
know
at
this
point
in
time.
I
want
to
have
the
most
expeditious
thing
to
move
on
in
our
agenda
at
this
point,
because
we're
we're
now
crossing
over
into
no
longer
making
judicious
decisions,
but
beating
a
horse
and
the
horses.
D
Chair
chair,
I
think
you
can
ask.
I
think
you
can
ask
your
other
commissioners
if
they
have
any
objection
to
your
proposed
course
of
action,
and
that
would
be
perfect.
A
Thank
you.
So
that's
what
we'll
put
let's
go
around
the
horn.
Anyone
have
any
objections
to
that
suggestion.
M
A
M
H
A
I'm
not
saying
anything
of
how
the
outcome
would
be
at
the
next
meeting.
I'm
saying
that
we're
bringing
it
back
and
one
of
the
options
is
to
make
no
decision
other
than
to
say
we're
going
to
go
with
we're
going
to
go
with
study.
Only
enhanced
study,
only
that's
one
of
the
options
that
will
be
added.
A
No,
I
did
not.
I
asked
staff
to
come
back
with
anywhere
from
the
two
to
four
options
they
have
now
and
to
add
an
option
to
it.
That
is
study
only
on
a
date
or
a
period
certain
that's
what
I
asked
and,
and
I'm
pretty
sure
that
that
is
what
has
been
the
understanding
of
commissioner
ferris.
Commissioner
fletcher,
is
that
correct?
A
I
A
I
You
you're
making
comments
that
we
are
ignoring
the
data
and
I
take
you
know
you
can
say
that
that
you're
ignoring
the
data,
but
I
don't
think
it's
appropriate
for
you
to
say
that
we
are
ignoring
the
data,
so
you
know
I
I
like
it
that
when,
if
you're
going
to
make
comments,
you
can
make
comments
based
on
your
opinion,
your
perspective,
don't
you
don't
include
me
in
the
we
when
you
say
we,
because
the
vote
didn't
go
your
way.
So
you
know
I
I
just
don't.
I
don't
want
it
to
be
that
way.
I
We
we
work
under
the
brown
act.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
voice
our
opinions.
I
I
ask
for
clarification
on
data.
I
brought
up
aesthetics
because
aesthetic
was
brought
up
in
the
report
that
because
on
the
frontage
issue
as
a
pro,
so
you
know
I
I
don't
think
that
you
know
I.
I
would
ask
that
you
refrain
from
making
comments
that
lump
your
assumption
as
to
why
a
decision
was
or
was
not
made
by
anyone
other
than
yourself.
A
A
I
don't
think,
and
I'm
going
back
12
years
ago,
so
I
will
apologize
for
an
aged
response.
I
don't
think
because
I
was
new
on
the
commission
that
everything
that
happened
before
me
no
longer
existed,
and
so
I'm
expecting
that
same
courtesy,
but
I
solved
that
problem,
so
we
don't
need
to
beat
that
horse.
We
were
told
by
staff
that
there
are
instances
where
the
road
diets
have
worked,
but
that
there
were
none
that
were
identical
to
this.
A
A
We've
already
heard
everyone
weigh
in
on
the
commission.
We
were
weighing
in
on
whether
or
not
it
was
okay
to
bring
it
back.
What
I've
heard
is
there
is
a
modicum
of
consensus
that
we
will
bring
back
two
or
four
of
the
options
that
you've
already
presented.
A
We
will
add
an
option
that
has
a
specific
period
certain
as
to
if
we
decide
that
we're
not
happy
with
those
options
with
the
next
commission
that
one
choice
we
can
make
is
to
go
to
a
period
specific
where
we
may
be
able
to
gather
more
data,
and
so
that's
what
I'm
going
to
with
the
the
help
and
the
guidance
of
the
city
attorney.
A
That's
what
I'm
suggesting
that
our
staff
come
back
with,
and
with
that
I
am
going
to
exercise
the
option
as
the
chair
to
close
off
discussion
on
this,
because
we
do
have
other
items
on
the
agenda
that
we
need
to
move
forward
with.
A
I
believe
we
have
one
more
at
least
one
more
action
item
and
okay
here
we
go
and
that
is,
and.
A
F
From
the
beginning,
okay,
can
you
see
that
yeah
thumbs
up
or
something
is
this
being
shared?
Yes,
it
is.
Thank
you
great.
Thank
you,
okay
and
just
a
little.
I
like
information
like
this.
It
should
take
about
eight
minutes
for
my
presentation,
so
just
sit
back
and
just
enjoy
yourself
here.
Thank
you
because
that's
what
this
is
all
about.
F
Okay,
so
thank
you
charlemagne
this
evening,
you're
going
to
hear
a
report
on
the
city
draft
local
road
safety
plan.
F
The
local
road
safety
plan
is
a
new
traffic
safety
plan
that
provides
a
city
with
a
data
driven
analysis,
largely
based
on
collision
information.
The
plan
identifies
traffic
safety
concerns
and
prioritizes
countermeasures
to
improve
traffic
safety.
Countermeasures
are
engineering
improvements
that
enhance
traffic
safety.
F
The
plan
looks
at
collision
data
city-wide
and
helps
us
understand
what
the
traffic
safety
issues
are,
which
help
to
prioritize
corrective
measures.
For
example,
rear-end
accidents
are
the
most
frequent
type
of
collision
in
the
city
by
understanding
that
this
is
a
city-wide
issue,
it
also
allows
us
to
look
city-wide
on
a
roadway
network
network
resolution.
F
The
conclusions
in
the
plan
are
data-driven
and
can
be
used
to
explain
to
the
public
where
the
city's
priorities
are
opposed
to
an
emotional
reaction
when
an
isolated
collision
occurs.
Other
uses
for
the
plan
will
be
to
help
prioritize
projects
in
the
city's
capital
improvement
budget.
It
will
also
help
staff
be
ready
to
be
able
to
apply
for
state
and
federal
grants
when
funding
becomes
available.
F
And,
of
course,
the
question
is:
why
are
we
doing
this
now?
First,
the
plan
was
prepared
using
a
caltrans
grant.
The
grant
was
in
the
amount
of
72
thousand
dollars
and
the
city
provided
an
eight
thousand
dollars
match.
So
the
to
prepare
the
plan
cost
eighty
thousand
dollars.
The
importance
of
the
plan
is
starting
in
spring.
2022
caltrans
will
require
cities
and
counties
to
have
an
adopted
plan
in
order
to
apply
for
federal,
highway
safety
improvement
program
funds.
F
So
the
plan
is
full
of
data,
and,
although
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
all
the
details,
the
backbone
of
the
plan
is
to
analyze
collisions
by
type
and
severity.
The
chart
provides
a
good
summary
of
the
city's
exclusion
history
for
the
past
10
years.
You
can
see
from
the
graph
that
overall
collisions,
which
is
the
orange
line
at
the
top,
have
decreased
slightly
over
the
last
10
years.
F
The
reduction
is
good,
but
there
are
also
nearly
a
thousand
collisions
per
year:
city-wide
pedestrian
and
bicycle
collisions,
which
are
the
green
and
blue
lines
account
for
about
four
percent
of
the
total
collisions.
However,
the
bicycle
and
pedestrian
collisions
account
for
25
of
killed
or
severed
injuries,
as
shown
redline.
F
The
plan
identified
four
areas
of
emphasis
and
are
listed
on
the
slide
for
each
area
of
the
emphasis.
The
plan
recommends
engineering
countermeasures
to
reduce
the
occlusion
rates.
They
range
from
simple
actions
such
as
installation
of
traffic
signs,
or
can
be
more
involved,
such
as
restriping
an
intersection
entire
road
segment.
F
The
most
common
types
of
collisions
include
rear,
end
broadside
and
hit
objects.
One
of
the
most
leading
collision
patterns
is
rear.
End
collisions,
which
is
largely
caused
by
speeding
safety
concerns
related
to
bicycling
and
walking,
is
the
lack
of
biking
bicycle
facilities
at
the
101
freeway
over
and
underpasses
freeway
overpasses,
including
lynn,
orchard
venture
park
and
wendy
experienced
bicycle
related
collisions.
Teo
boulevard
was
a
key
arterial
roadway
identified
to
have
a
high
concentration
of
bicycle
related,
collusions
and
lastly,
nice
time.
Collisions
at
signalized
intersections
were
also
noted
to
be
higher
than
collisions
during
the
day.
F
According
to
the
collision
records,
unsafe
speed
is
the
second
most
common
collision
factor
to
address
speeding.
The
police
department
enforces
the
speed
limit
and
issues
citations
to
motorists
driving
more
than
15
miles
an
hour
over
the
posted
speed
limit
on
higher
volume,
roads,
higher
speed
roads
such
as
lynn,
westlake,
canaan
and
thousands
of
boulevard
to
reduce
collisions
caused
by
speeding
motorists.
The
plan
recommends
installing
radar
feedback
signs
on
nine
higher
speed,
arterial
throat,
replay
segments.
F
F
Pedestrians
that
are
a
high
risk
of
being
killed
were
severely
injured
in
crashes
between
2015
to
2019.
There
were
549
crashes
involving
pedestrians
with
four
fatals
and
15
severe
injuries.
The
city
has
50
marked
crosswalks
across
streets
that
are
uncontrolled
by
a
traffic
signal
or
an
always
stop.
The
plan
recommends
improving
10
of
these
crosswalks
by
providing
an
electronic
rectangular
rapid
flashing
beacon
warning
system
with
advanced
warning,
flashing
beacons.
The
beacons
will
be
activated
by
a
pedestrian
push
button
when
the
pedestrian
wants
to
cross
the
street.
F
The
system
enhances
safety
by
increasing
driver
awareness
and
has
proven
to
increase
yield
rates
up
for
pedestrians.
The
city
recently
installed
these
systems
on
thousand
oaks
boulevard.
The
public
has
said
that
the
flashing
warning
lights
are
effective
at
getting
a
driver's
attention
which
causes
them
to
yield
sooner
than
if
the
warning
lights
were
not
present,
staff
has
confirmed
this
with
field
observations.
F
According
to
the
collision,
data
about
six
percent
of
the
occlusions
occur
after
sundown
at
41
of
the
signalized
intersections.
You
might
have
seen
the
new
retro-reflective
borders
at
the
caltrans
intersections.
They
have
been
installed
on
the
on
and
off
ramps
along
the
101
and
23
freeway.
The
reflective
yellow
borders
make
the
signal
heads
more
visible
in
both
daytime
and
nighttime,
and
service
reminders
that
the
intersection
should
be
treated
as
an
always
stop
control
intersection
when
all
displays
go
dark
during
a
power
outage.
The
plan
recommends
installing
reflected
back
plates
at
city-owned
traffic
signals.
F
The
plan
also
includes
a
section
on
non-engineering
safety
measures
that
target
specific
areas
of
emphasis
such
as
young
drivers
vice
plus
heads
and
dui
education.
For
example,
it
mentions
the
start:
smart
drivers,
education
program,
that's
given
by
the
ventura
county
sheriff's,
the
smart
start
program,
educates
newly
licensed
and
future
licensed
drivers
on
good
driving
practices
and
consequences
of
poor
driving
behavior
their
program
raises
awareness
and
is
a
proactive
method
to
reduce
the
number
of
team,
related
injuries
and
deaths
due
to
collisions.
F
I
mentioned
earlier
that
caltrans
will
require
agencies
to
have
a
plan
to
apply
for
a
highway
safety
improvement
program
funding
in
spring
2022,
because
the
local
road
safety
plan
and
data
was
available.
This
past
fall.
I
was
able
to
use
the
data
provided
in
the
draft
plan
to
submit
application
for
port
projects.
As
you
can
imagine,
we
were
very
excited
to
find
out
natural
that
the
city
was
awarded
just
over
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
three
of
the
four
projects.
These
projects
include
the
back
plates,
rectangular,
rapid
flashing,
beacons
and
guard
rail
improvements.
F
The
city
needs
to
provide
a
match
of
approximately
seventy
thousand
dollars
to
obtain
the
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
traffic
agreements.
F
So
with
that
I'll
take
a
breath,
this
is
the
staff
recommends.
The
staff
recommendation
is
in
the
staff
report.
Should
the
traffic
commission
confer
with
the
recommendation,
we
expect
to
board
the
recommendation
of
the
city
council
to
formally
adopt
the
local
road
safety
plan
later
this
summer,
and
that
concludes
the
staff
report.
We'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
of
the
traffic
commission.
F
A
You
very
much
so
you're
welcome
first
thing:
we'll
do
is
open
up
questions
for
staff
and
the
first
hand
I
see
is
commissioner
fletcher.
H
I'm
just
really
I'm
short
and
sweet
here,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
thank
you
for
the
report
focusing
on
safety.
One
quick
question:
you
had
your
slide
up
on
venture
in
101
talking
about
the
bike
lane
safety
measures
is
that
similar,
perfect
yeah?
Is
that
similar
to
what
was
done
on
on
west
lake
boulevard
over
the
over
the
101?
Some
of
the
bike
lanes
safety,
because
I
just
remember
when
I
was
on
the
commission
earlier
and
we
voted
on
the
west
lake
boulevard,
sidewalk
improvements.
H
That
was
a
big
discussion
point
for
us
and
I
think
that
was
just
a
phenomenal
job.
What
was
done
for
bike
safety
on
there?
I
just
just
was
curious.
Is
that
the
similar
idea.
F
It's
similar-
this
is
even
more
bike
safe
with
the
buffered
bike
lanes
going
across
the
bridge.
What's
similar
is
the
shark's
teeth
and
the
flashing
beacons
across
the
crosswalk,
but
yeah
it's
very
similar,
but
it's
even
we
could
say
it's.
It
adds
more
more
improvements
to
make
it
safer.
H
I
So
I
will.
I
will
say
that
when
someone
tells
me
something,
I
don't
consider
that
data
this
report
is
data.
It's
based
on
data.
It's
it's.
You
know.
I
may
not
agree
with
all
the
recommendations
in
it,
but
I
could
see
they're
based
on
data.
I
think
the
amount
of
data
in
here
is
is
really
informative.
I
I
think
it
was
really
well
put
together,
so
I
have
to
compliment
the
the
city
team
on
on
all
this
and
I
wholeheartedly
think
that
this
is
something
surely
that
is
going
to
be
beneficial
for
our
community.
Thank
you.
D
M
Just
just
a
lot
of
staff
for
the
the
report
and
the
thoroughness
of
this
I'm
very
interested
the
the
unique
aspects
of
of
these
traffic
technologies.
Sort
of
that
who
would
have
thought
like
the
the
reflective
back
plates.
Actually,
would
I
mean
it's
just
such
a
simple
thing.
M
It
seems
like
and,
and
it's
it's
something
that
provides
a
lot
of
awareness
about
the
fact
that
it's
a
you
know,
signaled
area
and
the
the
one
one
question
I
did
have
about
the
report
is
is
from
staff's
perspective
whenever
we
analyzing
every
one
of
the
intersections
and
it's
sort
of
sorted
by
the
number
of
incidents
and
but
then
therefore,
compared
with
the
compared
with
the
volume
of
it
and
the
rate
at
which
those
things
which
do
the
city
generally
focus
on
a
sheer
number
of
incidents.
M
F
Well
and
that's
that's-
the
purpose
of
this
report
is
to
look
at
it
systemically
throughout
the
city,
so
we're
looking
at
rates
we're
looking
at
severity
and
we're
looking
at
type
of
collision.
So
it's
all
those
components
all
together,
instead
of
exactly
that,
if
there's
just
we'll
say
a
big
horrible
accident
on
westlake
boulevard,
that
gets
all
the
city's
attention
like
wait.
There's
there's
other
issues
going
on
throughout
the
city,
but
yeah
it's
the
rate,
but
it's
a
combination
of
many
things.
M
A
Thanks,
I
also
want
to
thank
kathy
for
the
report.
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
attend
the
the
meeting
in
february
with
you
and
really
I
I
thought.
The
input
from
all
the
members
of
the
committee
and
everybody
who
was
visiting
was
was
very
good
and
helpful
as
well.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
with
that
we
will
first
ask
ms
vasquez:
do
we
have
any
speakers
on
this
subject.
A
Thank
you
very
much
with
that.
We
will
entertain
a
motion
to
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
the
staff
recommendation.
I
I'll
make
the
motion
to
accept
the
staff's
recommendation.
A
M
Just
a
clarification,
mr
chair,
this
does
not
involve
striping
of
anything
at
this
stage
right,
it's
just
the
report
and
the
sorry
I'm
trying
to
trying
to
make
it
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
light
here.
Please
please
continue.
A
M
A
B
Commissioner
ferris,
yes,
commissioner,
hayek
yes,
commissioner:
pletcher.
C
A
All
right
and
with
that
that
brings
us
to
item
number
seven,
which
is
the
status
of
prior
traffic
commission
recommendations
and,
mr
mashiko,
will
you
be
handling
this.
G
Yeah,
that's
just
something
real,
quick
that
last
month
or
the
last
time
we
met,
you
folks
took
a
look
at
the
lawrence
drive
till
road
intersection
improvement
plans
and
that's
the
design.
I
think
they
brought
to
you
the
last
meeting.
It's
moving
forward.
It's
almost
complete
the
design
is
almost
complete
and
later
yeah
in
the
summer
we're
going
to
be
moving
towards
the
bid
process
so
that
move
that
project
is
going
to
be
moving
closer
towards
construction.
A
Excellent.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
The
next
item
would
be
commission
referrals
from
april
21st,
and
there
were
none
and
you've
all
had
the
chance
to
see
the
attached
work,
program
and
commission
schedule
in
regards
to
our
work
program.
Are
there
any
questions
of
staff
by
the
commissioners.
A
Hearing
none
we'll
move
on
with
item
number
10,
which
is
the
staff
request,
traffic
commission's
input
regarding
the
format
of
future
meetings
to
consume,
to
continue
on
zoom
versus
returning
to
the
the
board
room
at
city
hall.
A
H
I'll
I'll
just
jump
right
in
I'm,
I
don't
have
much
to
say
other
than
I'm
happy
to
do
either
way,
it'd
be
great
to
get
back
to
in
person,
but
I
do
know
that
the
governor
continued
provisions
of
the
brown
act
that
allow
these
meetings
to
continue.
So
I'm
I
really
am
good
either
way.
Whatever
staff
wants
to
do.
I
I
will
support.
I
Do
we
do
we
still,
we
still
stream
the
videos,
even
if
we
go
back,
live
correct.
A
A
But
but
we
do
not,
but
we
do
not
allow
remote
comments
if,
in
other
words,
you
have
to
be
at
the
boardroom
to
do
a
public
comment,
you
cannot
phone
in
or
use
a
zoom.
A
Well,
I
would
say
that,
based
upon
past
experience,
I
always
like
to
be
in
person.
However,
there's
one
thing
that
I
do
like
better
about
zoom
and
that
is
it's
more
accessible
to
the
public.
What
I
mean
by
that
is,
if
mom
or
dad
are
doing
homework
with
a
kid
or
having
dinner,
they
can
do
so
until
their
item
comes
up
which
they
usually
cannot
do
unless
they
have
a
friend
at
city
hall,
that's
gonna,
call
them
and
say:
okay,
you've
got
15
minutes
to
get
here
hurry
up.
A
So
I
think
that
there's
a
tremendous
benefit
to
the
community.
That's
number
one
number
two,
I
think,
there's
a
very
good
benefit
to
us
and
to
staff,
because
in
the
event,
we're
called
away
for
business
or
whatever
we
have
the
ability
to
participate
in
the
meeting
the
same
way
as
if
we
were
here.
A
Last
but
not
least,
I
know
that
many
businesses-
I
can't
say
most
at
this
time,
but
many
businesses
are
planning
to
have
a
hybrid
schedule
where
they're
only
going
to
be
in
person
somewhere
between
60
and
40
of
the
time.
Everything
else
will
be
done
by
zoom.
A
So
I
tend
to,
even
though
I
prefer
to
be
in
person,
I
tend
to
favor
zoom
because
it
allows
better
access
also,
unlike
our
regular
meetings,
a
person
can
phone
in
and
give
their
comment
on
zoom,
but
they
can't
phone
into
a
regular
live
meeting
to
do
that.
Last
but
not
least,
I
think
it's
also
better
for
staff.
A
I
like
the
fact
that
staff
who
travel
from
different
places
are
not
you
know,
leaving
work
at
9,
00
or
9
30
or
10
o'clock
at
night
to
head
home,
many
of
which
live
outside
the
city
of
thousand
rounds.
So
I
am
supportive
of
the
zoo.
I
think
what
you
wanted
to
hear
was
everyone's
comments,
so
that
you
can
carry
these
forward
in
your
discussion.
Is
that
right,
yeah.
C
That
was
the
general
consensus.
We
wanted
to
get
some
feedback
so
as
there's
additional
discussions
later
this
month
or
later
this
summer
at
the
city
management
level,
you
know
we
can
at
least
present.
You
know
one
of
the
questions
will
be
on.
What
is
the
commission
or
you
know?
What
does
the
commission
feel
or
what
is
the
desire
of
the
commission
so
yeah?
I
see
that
we
don't
we're
not
strongly
in
one
direction
or
the
other,
but
there's
flexibility,
and
we
there
are.
C
The
benefits
of
the
virtual
meetings
are,
are
apparent
and,
as
was
mentioned,
that
they're
currently
still
allowed.
When
that
changes,
we
will
take
the
close
eye
on
and
we'll
also
evaluate
what
the
overall
city's
position
is.
I
know
the
council
meetings
have
gone
hybrid
wherever
there's
both
going
on,
but
there's
a
lot
more
moving
parts
to
make
that
happen
so
david
to
chime
in.
M
M
M
Up
to
speed
on
zoom
and
for
them
they
found
it
to
be
very
limiting
in
their
ability
to
provide
their
and
they
find
it
very
frustrating
where
they
know
how
to
go
down
to
city
hall
and
be
able
to
go
and
do
that.
So
there
are
for
some
people
becomes
more
accessible
and
others.
It
may
seem
a
little
bit
less.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
we
take
have
that
full
picture
in
in
our
consideration.
A
A
We
have
had
we've
eliminated
a
lot
of
the
accessibility
concerns
in
work
settings
by
moving
to
a
microsoft
teams
situation.
It's
I
mean
this
with
no
disrespect
to
anybody,
but
for
somebody
it
helped
me
it
dumbs
things
down
a
little
bit,
it's
more
obvious
of
what
button
to
push
and
how
to
participate.
A
I
also
noticed
that
at
the
hospital
we're
using
something
called
webinar,
where
literally
you
do
hit
a
green
button
and
you're
in
the
meeting,
and
you
hit
another
green
button
and
you're
speaking,
so
I
don't
know
if
there
are
alternatives
that
we
could
use
that
make
it
easier
or
not.
But
at
least
you
know
where
the
commission
stands
on
this.
So
with
that,
I
thank
everybody
for
their
opinion.
A
We
have
one
more
item
here
and
that
is
oh.
No.
We
already
have
this
decided
we're
going
to
adjourn
the
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission
will
be
adjourned
until
6
pm
on
july
21st.
A
According
to
my
notes,
it
says
either
in
the
board
room
on
the
civic
arts
plaza
on
the
third
floor
or
in
a
virtual
meeting
via
zoom.
Oh
hold
on
just
a
second
yes,
sir
commissioner,.
I
Do
we
does
this
committee
have
any
bylaws
or
or
written
procedures
or
protocols
that
we
follow
like?
Could
someone
send
that
to
me
because
I
looked
on
the
website
I
didn't
see,
I
didn't
find
anything
and.
A
I'll
be
happy
to,
is
it
part
of
council
norms,
or
I
have
read
them
a
long
long
time
ago.
D
We
have
we
haven't
in
a
separate
manual
just
for
our
boards
and
commissions.
A
Perfect,
thank
you
all
right
so
well
and
one
other
quick
comment.
I
want
to
thank
everybody
on
staff,
but
tonight
I
think
I
get
all
my
cheat
sheet
from
mrs
marcelino.
Is
that
correct?
A
So
thank
you
very
much
for
providing
that
and
with
that
we'll
go
back
to
the
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission
is
now
adjourned
until
6
p.m.
On
july,
21st
2021
in
the
board
room
in
the
civic
arts
plaza
on
the
third
floor
or
in
a
virtual
meeting
via
zoo,
good
night
everybody.
We
are
adjourned.