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From YouTube: Council Meeting - April 12, 2022
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A
A
Okay,
council
we're
at
9
31.,
the
the
main
clock
is
a
little
slow.
So
I'm
going
to
call
this
meeting
to
order.
Welcome
to
the
vancouver
city
council
meeting
of
tuesday
april
12th.
Can
you
believe
it's
april,
12th
2022.,
you
believe
it.
A
This
council
meeting
is
being
convened
by
electronic
means
as
authorized
under
part
14
of
the
procedure.
Bylaw,
the
city
of
vancouver
electronic
meetings
and
as
such
council
members
and
the
public
may
participate
in
a
person
or
by
electronic
means,
a
council
member
attending
by
electronic
means
loses
connection
during
the
voting
process,
staff
are
available
to
get
you
back
online
quickly,
while
the
voting
process
is
suspended.
A
A
Of
course,
as
always,
we
acknowledge
that
we
are
on
the
unseated
homelands,
the
musculum
squamish
and
slave
teeth
people,
and
we
thank
them
for
having
cared
for
this
land
look
forward
to
working
with
them
in
partnership,
as
we
continue
to
build
this
great
city
together
and,
of
course,
we
want
to
take
a
minute
and
to
recognize
the
immense
contributions
of
vancouver's
city
staff
who
work
hard
here
every
day
and
a
special
note
of
recognition
to
the
vancouver
fire
and
rescue
service
for
all
their
work.
A
Last
night,
I
was
down
on
scene
last
night
and
I
was
really
impressed
by
the
the
professionalism
and
the
care
that
the
fire
service
put
in
to
the
work
there
with
much
more
to
come,
and
thank
you
to
the
city
manager
and
his
team
and
all
the
staff
at
the
city
that
have
been
kicking
in
to
help
those
who've
lost
their
homes.
A
With
that
clerk
can
we
have
the
whole
roll
call?
Please.
A
Thanks
very
much
so
any
comments
on
the
agenda
items
today
can
be
sent
to
council
using
the
web
form
on
the
city's
website.
The
link
to
that
form
we
tweeted
out
on
at
band
city
clerk.
I
also
want
to
note
that
the
city
of
vancouver's
long-standing
commitment
to
equity,
diversity
and
inclusion
and
when
we're
addressing
speakers
or
staff,
please
avoid
using
gendered
honorifics.
A
Today
we
have
three
administrative
items:
three
reports:
seven
referral
reports,
ten
bylaws,
one
administrative
motion:
eight
council,
members,
motions
notice
of
council
members,
motions,
new
business
inquiries
and
other
matters.
So
today,
council
we
go
till
noon.
Then
we
take
a
break
for
lunch
from
12
to
one
from
one.
Tell
three
we're
in
camera
with
a
busy
in-camera
agenda,
then
from
three
to
five,
we're
back
here
in
council
chambers
and
then
from
six
to
ten.
Of
course
we
have
a
public
hearing
this
evening.
A
Maybe
the
clerk's
gonna
remind
me
if
we
don't
finish
all
the
business
today
on
council.
I
believe
it
is
next
tuesday
or
what
next
tuesday
next
tuesday,
that
we
would
continue
the
remainder
of
the
of
the
council
business
if
we
don't
complete
today.
A
So
we'll
move
to
in
camera
now
council
is
required
to
meet
in
camera
later
this
week.
The
reasons
and
authority
under
the
vancouver
charter
are
listed
in
the
agenda.
Is
someone
to
move
a
motion
please
to
go
on
camera
kirby.
E
A
I've
heard
counselor
hardwick
second
by
counselor
dominato,
all
those
in
favor
yay.
F
A
A
E
A
E
A
Nay,
thanks
very
much:
that's
passed
okay,
so
we
do
have
the
consent
agenda.
Now
we
have
report
one
and
referral
reports,
one
through
seven
on
the
I
can
sorry
consent
agenda
reports,
two
and
three
of
speakers
and
will
be
withheld,
so
anybody
would
like
to
hold
report
one
or
any
of
the
referral
reports,
one
to
seven
councillor
weep.
I
like
to
world
report
one
okay,
that's
review
holds
report
one
anybody
want
to
hold
any
of
the
referral
reports.
F
A
Okay,
I
heard
councillor
carr
seconded
by
councillor
dominato,
just
a
reminder.
If
you
have
a
conflict
on
on
any
of
these,
please
let
us
know
now
before
you
vote
all
those
in
favor
the
consent
agenda,
yay.
A
Great,
so
we
have
passed
the
seven
referral
reports,
cd1
rezoning
on
7989
camby
street,
the
rezoning
on
1684
alberni,
the
rezoning
on
160
west
4th
west
4th
the
miscellaneous
text
amendments
the
cd1
rezoning
on
the
heather
lands
amendment
to
the
zoning
and
development
bylaw
in
the
fc-1
district
and
encouraging
ev
charging
at
gas
stations
and
parking
lots
for
the
climate
emergency.
So
those
are
all
moved
on
consent.
A
A
Thanks
counselor
will
you
be
held
this?
Would
you
have
any
just
put
you
on
the
q
here
for
questions?
Please
go
ahead
after
five
minutes,
I'd
like
to.
A
I
think
I
I
saw
counselor
boyle's
hand,
but
it's
not
oh,
my
vocal
for
counselor
boyle
on
that
one
thanks:
okay,
so
I'll
put
cancer
weep
you're
on
up
for
five
minutes
for
debate.
G
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
speak
and
thank
staff
for
the
amount
of
work
that
went
into
this.
The
personal
disability
advisory
committee
called
me
very
happy
last
night.
I
really
appreciate
the
homebound
voting
and
the
opportunities
that
are
presented
in
here
to
really
ensure
we're
increasing
the
accessibility
and
that
more
people
in
vancouver
will
have
the
opportunity
to
vote.
So
I
just
wanted
to
pull
this
to
thank
staff
for
the
amount
of
work.
G
I
know
this
has
been
a
few
years
in
the
making
and
it's
been
a
back
and
forth
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
between
staff
and
the
person
disability
advisory
committee,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
this
is
now
being
a
pilot
project
that
we
can
see
how
effective
it
is
to
have
more
people
in
vancouver,
have
the
opportunity
to
vote.
So
thank
you
very
much
to
staff.
I
Mayor
and
council
nice
to
see
you
all
in
person.
Yes,
there
will.
B
Be
school
news
opportunity
for
schooners
to
witness
the
the
process
for
sure
excellent.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
I
will
make
some
comments
briefly,
though,
and
since
I
have
the
moment
I
I'd
like
to
like
my
colleague
counselor,
we
echo
the
appreciation
for
the
work
on
this
report
and
the
diligence
that
staff
have
undertaken
two
particularly
to
advance
the
the
homebound
option,
and
I
saw
we've
got
correspondence
today
from
the
persons
with
disabilities
advisory
committee
with
having
passed
motion
unanimously
in
support
of
this,
and
so
I
concur
with
my
colleague
that
this
adds
accessibility
for
individuals
who
may
not
be
able
to
make
it
to
voting
stations,
and
I
really
think,
is
a
positive
move
forward,
and
so
thanks
staff
for
the
work
on
this,
and
I
think
it's
it's
a
really
great
addition
coming
into
the
civic
election
in
2022.
J
A
Thank
you,
councillor,
swanson,
that's
it!
Maybe
we'll
just
try
a
verbal
vote
on
this
one.
All
in
favor
of
passing
this
report,
yay.
A
Was
nay
that's
past
unanimously,
thanks,
so
much
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
second
report,
which
is
the
vancouver
police
board
budget
increase.
A
And
I'll
just
make
sure
that
we
have
there'll
be
a
staff
presentation
on
this
city
manager.
B
Or
I
know
mayor
stewart,
but
we
have
staff
here,
patrice
simpy.
One
colin
knighter
here
happy
to
answer
your
questions.
A
Okay,
great
thanks.
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
ask
first:
if
anybody
wants
to
declare
conflict
of
interest
on
this,
if
no
we
can
go
for
I'm
just
gonna
go
back
to
the
question,
queue
and
clear
it,
and
then,
if
we
have
questions
for
staff,
the
council
can
go
ahead
and
then
we
have
a
number
of
speakers
to
this
item.
Afterwards,
councillor
swanson
up
to
five
minutes
for
questions
to
staff.
J
Yeah,
I
wonder
if
the
manager
could
explain
for
the
public
the
memo
that
we
got
this
morning.
It
looks
like
we
have
more
revenue
than
we
thought
we'd
have
when
we
passed
the
budget
in
december
and
are
are
you
saying
that
we
don't
have
wouldn't
have
to
take
it
out
of
reserve?
We
could
just
have
the
same
tax
increase,
basically
that
we've
already
planned
and
still
pay
for
the
police,
and
then,
of
course,
I'm
wondering
if
we
didn't
pay
for
the
police.
K
Thank
you
counselor.
Yes,
just
as
a
little
bit
of
background
when
we,
when
we
get
the
final
role
from
bc
assessment,
there's
always
a
slight
change
difference
from
what
our
estimate
was
for
new
property
tax
revenue
coming
in.
So
it's
there's,
usually
a
small
difference
in
the
tax
increase
this
year
we
have
kind
of
two
unique
things
happening.
K
We've
got
this
timing,
where,
in
the
time
that
we've
heard
about
the
province's
decision
on
police
and
just
at
the
same
time
that
we've
received
the
the
role
and
it
appears
that
there
is
about
six
million
dollars
of
additional
new
construction,
which
is
a
much
larger
number
than
we
would
normally
have
at
this
time.
So
it's
just
kind
of
this
unique
circumstances.
K
K
So
in
theory
we
could
absorb
the
police
increase,
increase
that
tax
levy
on
our
budget
and
increase
the
police
costs
and
the
tax
increase
would
be
at
6.3
percent.
I
suppose
council
could
make
a
decision
to
allocate
that
funding
differently,
but
we're
very,
very
late
in
the
processes
generally,
when
we
would
make
changes.
It
really
is
just
a
technical
change
that
we
do
in
may
to
adjust
to
to
the
to
the
role.
So
it
is
a
pretty
unique
situation.
I
would
say
at
this
point.
J
A
Thanks,
I
have
a
question
as
well,
so
thanks
for
the
report
and
all
the
work
on
this,
I
know
it's
a
bit
of
a
shock
to
all
of
us
that
the
province
decided
to
make
this
decision.
A
I'm
just
wondering
out
of
the
this
six
point
say
that
the
6.3,
if
we
decided
to
take
this
out
of
current
budget
and
have
a
6.3
property
tax,
increase
percentage
property
tax
increase,
what
proportion
of
that
would
be
entirely
attributed
to
police.
B
So
colin
knight,
director
of
citywide
financial
planning
and
analysis,
so
the
the
22
budget
year
over
increase
with
the
5.7
million
included,
would
be
approximately
30
million
dollars
over
the
amount
council
approved
in
2021
and
of
the
6.3
property
tax
increase
that
would
that
would
be
2.8
percent
of
or
so
approximately
44
percent
of
the
of
the
overall
6.3
property
tax
increase.
A
A
B
Apologies,
I
had
trouble
logging
on.
I
I
wanted
to
on
a
point
of
personal
privilege.
I
declare
a
conflict
of
interest
and
I'm
recusing
myself,
based
on
legal
advice
that
I
have
received:
okay
and
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution,
just
understanding
that
I
can
vote
on
some
parts
of
the
police
budget,
but
because
this
isn't
specific.
For
that
reason,
I
will
be
recusing
myself,
because
I
have
a
family
member.
That
is
a
sworn
member
of
the
vancouver
police
department.
A
You
so
much
cancer
weep.
G
Yeah
mine's
a
follow-up
question
recognizing
there's
that
six
million
dollars
of
new
revenue
coming
in
and
during
the
budget
period
we
talked
about.
K
K
So
when
council
approves
the
budget,
you
approve
the
the
level
of
property
tax
we
need
in
order
to
to
fund
all
of
our
expenditures
and
and-
and
so
that
part
you
have
approved
as
part
of
the
budget
and
what
happens
in
may
is
really
just
a
two-up,
based
on
the
on
on
the
renew
on
the
revised
rule
from
bc
assessment,
so
the
tax
adjustment,
the
tax
rate
increase
in
order
to
get
to
the
property
tax
levy
that
council
has
approved
adjusts.
K
L
K
It's
additional
revenues
from
new
construction
that
comes
in,
and
so
then,
then,
that
adjusts
the
tax
increase
that
has
to
happen
in
order
to
achieve
that,
so
the
property
of
the
levy
is
the
same.
K
G
K
Maybe
up
to
a
million
yeah
like
point
two
percent
of
a
tax
increase
yeah,
so
we
usually
assume
about
five
million
dollars
in
new
revenue
and
they
may
come
in
at
six
or
something
like
that.
This
is
quite
unusual
and
again
it's
just
the
timing
of
when
new
properties
come
on
to
the
assessment
role,
and
so
in
this
revised
role.
They
add
on
this,
these
new
properties
and
it's
just
higher
than
it
has
been
in
previous
years,
just
because
of
timing.
G
Okay
and
then
can
you
talk
about
if
this
comes
out
of
contingency?
What
would
that
look
like
for
the
council
next
year,
when
they're
going
to
vote
out.
G
K
C
Thanks
one
more
question
for
you-
and
I
asked
this
partially
by
email,
but
I'm
really
struck
that
nearly
half
of
the
tax
increases
going
to
vpd.
I
certainly
don't
think
people
are
know
that
and
I'm
wondering
what
options
exist
around
helping
people
understand
the
that
tax
increase
in
the
tax
bill
that
they'll
receive.
K
Thank
you
councillor
and
we
do
send
an
insert
with
the
tax
bill
and
we'll
have
different
information
in
it,
but
we
certainly
could
highlight
this
change
and
I
think
it
would
probably
be
wise,
given
it's
a
pretty
unique
situation,
to
highlight
the
change
in
the
in
the
vpd
budget
in
that
in
that
insert
so
we
can.
We
can
make
sure
we've
got
all
that
information
in
an
insert
to
help
help
explain
that.
C
C
Appreciate
that
that's
all
of
my
questions.
A
Thanks
so
much
council,
that's
it
for
questions
at
this
point.
So
we'll
move
to
speakers.
A
We
have
eight
speakers
currently
registered
and
let's
move
to
the
first
speaker
who
is
menakshi
manau.
D
M
Hi,
I'm
the
community
co-executive
director
at
pace
society.
I've
spoken
to
council
before
you
all
are
probably
familiar
with
me,
I'm
so
sorry
that
I'm
back
to
haunt
you
again.
I
really
feel
very
very
strongly
as
to
many
of
our
members
at
pace
that
we
do
not
want
our
tax
money
going
to
support
the
bpd.
M
Nor
do
we
want
our
money
going
to
support
the
police
board
who
have,
like
you
know,
for
lack
of
a
better
term
really
kind
of
screwed
over
city
council
by
you
know,
going
to
the
province
and
having
the
province
sort
of
demand
that
this
increase
be
returned
to
the
police.
I
think
that
shows
a
lot
of
sort
of
manipulation
of
politics
and
definitely
increases
my
distrust
of
police.
So
I
definitely
do
not
think
that
the
police
board
should
get
an
increase
thanks.
J
Yeah,
could
you
explain
what
the
relationship
is
between
sex
workers
and
the
police
and
where
you're
not
wanting
the
police
to
get
the
increase
is
coming
from
absolutely.
M
The
relationship
between
police
and
sex
workers
remains
one
that
is
fraught
and
mainly
distrustful.
Sex
workers
rarely
get
the
support
that
they
request
from
police
and
I'm
sorry
what
was
the
second
part
of
your
question.
Gene
pardon
me
yeah.
J
I
just
wanted
to
know
where
your
distrust
of
them
came
from.
I
guess
you
just
explained
it.
What
do
you?
What
do
you
think
you
could
do?
Could
you
if
you
got
some
of
that
5.7
million
if
pace
got
it?
What
do
you
think
you're
going
to
do.
M
M
Got
so
much
more
to
say
on
that,
but
I
believe
that's
a
different
motion
right,
like
the
the
sort
of
peace
around
the
police.
Getting
their
5.7
increase
is
a
different
piece
than
we're
talking
about
now,
which
is
the
police
board
increase
if
I'm
following
everything
properly.
But
what
please
do
with
that?
5.7
million.
J
The
police
force
the
police,
this.
The
police
board
basically
governs
the
police
so
when
we
say
we're
giving
that
money
to
the
police
board,
we're
actually
giving
it
to
the
police.
M
Okay,
so
pace
generally
has
an
operating
budget.
The
last
couple
of
years
of
around
eight
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
per
year
with
a
team
of
ten
people,
we've
done
dozens
and
dozens
of
name
changes.
Hundreds
of
support
sessions,
counseling
sessions
done
outreach
four
days
a
week
or
rather
had
a
home
reduction
window
four
days
a
week
done
food
deliveries
like
we
do
so
much
with
such
a
small
budget,
as
do
many
non-profits,
and
I
think
the
cops
could
definitely
learn
something
from
us
and
also
like.
M
M
We
could,
with
5.7
million
hire
another
30
staff,
open
different
offices
around
the
city
like
continue
providing
food,
maybe
restart
the
micro
grants
project.
We
could
hire
more
counselors.
We
could
like
train
peers
to
do
peer
support
and
like
intervention
and
conflicts
that
kind
of
stuff
we
could
do
so
much
with
5.7
million.
The
fact
that
it's
going
to
go
to
police
salaries
is
frustrating.
A
Just
10
seconds
left
so.
A
C
Thanks
and
I
I
was
going
to
ask
a
related
question-
so
maybe
you've
covered
it,
but
I
was
wondering
I
know.
Sex
workers
are
certainly
some
of
the
most
vulnerable
residents
to
community
safety
in
our
city,
a
vulnerable
to
being
victims
of
of
violence
and
crime.
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
thoughts
on
how
we
as
a
city
could
be
investing
in
public
safety
in
ways
that
would
support
and
protect
sex
workers.
M
M
A
Thank
you,
that's
it
for
questions,
so
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
speaker.
Thank
you,
speaker
number
three
is
sarah
blythe.
A
Much
speaker
number
four
is
elizabeth
bell.
A
You
speaker,
five
is
karen
gilchrist.
B
A
Thank
you.
We
have
jed
weiss
in
person,
I
don't
see,
judge
weiss,
speaker,
7
is
beverly
ho.
E
A
You
clerks,
as
per
our
procedural
bylaw,
I'm
now
going
to
go
through
and
call
the
names
of
people
that
were
registered
to
speak,
but
were
not
here
when
their
name
was
called.
We
have
speaker
number
one.
Sorry
I
get
my
classes
on
here
and
actually
minnow.
A
Second,
sarah
blize.
I
A
Hi
there
you
have
up
to
five
minutes
whenever
you're
ready.
N
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
My
name
is
minak
shimino,
I'm
calling
in
as
the
criminalization
and
policing
campaigner
at
pivot
legal
society,
I'm
calling
into
oppose
the
5.7
million
dollar
increase
to
the
police
budget
and
also
in
support
of
council
member
gene
swanson's
motion
that
outlines
a
number
of
ways
that
the
city
of
vancouver
could
also
push
back
against
the
decision
made
by
the
provincial
director
of
police
services
on
friday.
N
N
It
literally
was
freezing
at
the
2020
operating
level
and
having
reviewed
the
materials
that
were
presented
to
the
director
of
police
services,
specifically
the
two
reports
by
inverlief
and
peter
laprine,
consulting
it's
very
clear
to
me
that
the
provincial
director
didn't
consider
any
feedback
from
community
members
who
spoke
to
council,
both
during
2020
and
2021
budget
deliberations
about
the
need
to
redistribute
resources
rather
than
continuing
to
fund
millions
of
dollars
into
the
police
budget.
N
I
do
believe
that
this
increase
to
the
budget
should
cause
concern
for
people
of
all
political
stripes
in
vancouver
one,
because
the
two
options
that
the
city
is
looking
at
have
an
impact
on
every
resident
of
so-called
vancouver,
so
whether
it's
increasing
taxes
to
offset
a
budget
increase
for
the
police
or
dipping
into
the
city's
reserve
funds.
N
Those
are
funds
that
also
should
be
saved
for
emergencies
and
not
for
an
increase
to
a
2021
police
budget
and
also
because
we
know
that
criminalizing
people
deploying
further
police
onto
the
street
doesn't
actually
address
the
issues,
but
I
see
attractive
flurry
of
interest
on
social
media,
whether
that's
graffiti
vandalism,
lack
of
access
to
public
bathrooms
of
people
urinating
and
defecating
on
the
street,
and
I
can
appreciate
why
those
issues
raise
concerns
for
people.
N
N
I
learned
that
in
the
netherlands,
during
the
pandemic,
they
decided
to
shift
away
from
reliance
on
tourism
and
actually
give
tourist
shots
over
to
community-based
non-profits,
and
I
think
that
that's
something
that
the
city
could
look
into
revitalizing
this
space
so
that
it's
actually
accessible
to
the
people
who
need
it.
Making
sure
that
you
know
peers
and
community
organizers
have
spaces
to
work
out
if
they
want
to
create
art
like
graffiti
artists
or
artists.
If
they
want
to
create
art,
let's
actually
build
the
infrastructure
for
community-based
artists.
N
So
I
do
oppose
the
provincial
director
wayne
rideout's
decision
to
restore
the
5.7
million
dollars
to
the
vpd
budget
for
2021
and
I'm
supportive
of
counselor
gene
swanson's
promotion
today
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Thank
you,
council,
responders
sponsors
questions
for
you,
council
response
in
after
three
minutes.
J
Yeah,
I
have
two
questions:
menache,
who
do
you
think
the
police
should
be
accountable
to,
and
you
answered
it
a
bit
in
your
in
your
talk,
but
in
your
dreams.
What
could
you
do
with
the
5.7
million
that
the
police
want
us
to
give
them
if
you
were
promoting
community-led
services.
N
Well,
I
think
we
we
have
a
real
issue
with
police
accountability
in
a
few
levels
right
with
this
recent
decision
by
the
provincial
director.
It
really
raises
questions
about
who's
accountable
for
a
police
budget
when
a
provincial
bureaucrat
can
override
a
decision
made
by
a
council.
N
N
So
you
know,
I
think,
when
we
look
at
how
police
accountability
is
built
into
the
police
act
as
it
stands,
it
really
doesn't
reflect
the
needs
of
people
who
are
criminalized,
rightly
and
wrongly,
my
dream
for
the
5.7
million
well
driving
down
east
tender
street.
Yesterday
I
saw
that
the
former
site,
the
inhalation
site
for
ops,
has
been
restored
to
a
parking
lot,
and
I
know
that
that
was
a
really
important
artistic
hub
for
people
who
live
in
the
downtown
east
side.
N
You
can
see
their
artwork
up
on
the
wall
beside
the
law,
so
many
graffiti
artists
were
able
to.
You
know,
create
really
imaginative
and
powerful
pieces,
and
I
just
think
how
deeply
depressing
it
is
to
drive
by
it
now
and
see
it
become
a
parking
lot.
N
So
5.7
million
dollars
could
go
into
leasing
or
outright
buying
spaces
for
people
living
in
the
downtown
east
side.
People
who
rely
on
public
space,
the
people
whose
lives
are
continually
used
as
political
fodder.
Whenever
people
want
to
make
a
big
deal
about
crime
in
the
city
or
perceptions
of
crime
in
the
city.
A
N
A
D
Hi,
I'm
just
going
to
keep
this
brief.
Mainly
it
just
comes
down
to
for
for
me
is
that
we
really
need
to
support.
We
could
use
this
money
to
support
young
people,
we're
really
failing
our
young
people
in
a
lot
of
ways,
we're
also
failing
vulnerable
people,
so
many
people
are
dying
and
really
getting
down
to
the
bottom
of.
Why?
Why
we're?
D
How
we're
failing
them
and
why
we're
failing
them
and
putting
funding
towards
changing
people's
lives
so
that
they're,
not
you,
know,
criminalized
and
going
back
and
forth
into
the
system?
Also,
the
vpd
is
well
budgeted.
You
know.
D
Over
the
years
I've
been
watching
as
the
park
board
budget
decreases
and
the
the
vpd
budget
increases,
or
you
know
even
they
say,
they've
had
to
decrease,
but
actually
it
stayed
the
same,
and,
and
you
see
these
public
services
that
people
need
like
community
centers
where
people
you
know,
young
people
are
able
to
go,
play
basketball
talk
to
youth
workers
lead,
you
know,
mentor
people
and
have
better
lives,
and
so
you
know
when,
when
when
you
decrease
those
services,
because
the
police
are
keep
continuously
asking
for
more
money
and
demanding
it
in
a
way
that
the
the
park
board
obviously
hasn't
been
able
to
advocate,
for
you
know,
you're
going
to
end
up
in
situations.
A
D
D
That
you're
not
getting
to
the
bottom
of
what
the
issue
real
issues
are
and
you're
not
actually
supporting
the
young
people
and
the
folks
that
need
it.
The
most
all
of
the
the
the
situations
that
we're
encountering
are
young
people
in
need
of
help,
and
this
money
would
go
a
long
way
to
help
people.
D
So
I
think
you
know,
I
think
it's
it's
a
bit
of
been
a
bit
of
a
campaign
to
try
and
get
the
funding
increase
their
funding
when
other
level,
like
other
city
services,
are
being
decreased
but
at
the
same
time
we're
really
losing
out
when
it
comes
to
the
park
board
and
other
other
services
that
really
help
people
that
the
city
can
also
fund.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
You
do
have
questions
from
councillor
swanson.
J
Yeah
thanks
for
calling
in
sarah
first
question
is:
do
you
do
you
think
we
can
police
our
way
to
safety.
D
No,
I
I
honestly
in
all
of
the
years
that
that
I
even
worked
at
park
board
and
I
was
working
with
youth
really
when
you
criminalize
young
people
or
you
criminalize
people
it
just.
It
just
decreases
their
chances
of
having
a
a
good
life
in
the
future,
because
it's
harder
to
get
a
job,
it's
harder
to
to
to
do
stuff.
Once
you
have
charges
so
really
the
the
answer,
I
guess,
is
no.
We
need
to
help
people.
D
We
need
people
to
have
housing,
we
need
people
to
be
healthy
and
good
communities
and
the
only
way
we're
gonna
really
do,
that
is
to
support
people
and
make
sure
that
that
they're
they
have
every
chance
to
survive
and
feel
good
in
life.
D
Well,
they
should
be
accountable
to
the
public,
obviously,
but
also
you
know
just
you
know
when
it
comes
down
to
where
I'm
at
in
the
downtown
east
side,
they
should
treat
people
the
same
as
they
treat
everyone
else.
So
I
think
you
know
what
I
what
I
see
is
that
there's
a
difference
between
how
people
view
vulnerable
people
and
how
they
should
be
treated,
and
I
really
hope
that
you
know
in
the
future.
D
We
can
come
up
with
a
way
where
they
become
more
of
you
know,
directing
people
to
services
like
community,
centers
and
and
young
people
to
positive
change,
as
opposed
to
criminalizing
people
who
really
don't
going
into
the
community.
The
criminal
system
really
just
hurts
them
in
the
end.
G
Yeah
my
question:
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
to
support
kind
of
well-being,
community
safety
that
we
should
look
more
preventive.
So
you
think
that
we
should
look
at
funding
ways
for
peer,
assisted
care
teams,
culturing
trauma,
informed
preventative
programs
and
restorative
programming.
So
we
should
continue
to
push
some
of
the
funding
towards
programs
more
of
a
preventative
and
kind
of
outside
the
judicial
system.
So
we
can
do
more
preventative
care.
Is
that
kind
of
what
you're
saying
that's
to
deal
with
the
problems?
We
really
need
to
deal
with
the
root
causes.
D
Absolutely
I
mean
you
know:
even
my
son
went
to
high
school.
There
was
a
lot
of
you
could
see
a
lot
of
issues
start
well
when
people
are
used
and
falling
through
the
cracks
of
the
system,
because
they've
got
learning
disabilities
or
other
disabilities,
and
the
society
is
telling
them
that
you
know
they're
not
going
to
succeed,
and
that
really
creates
a
lot
of
problems
for
young
people
and-
and
you
know
in
the
situation
that
we're
in
with
a
lot
of
people
living
in
real
poverty,
even
with
kovid,
has
made
it
even
worse.
D
You
know
it
like.
We
really
just
need
to
figure
out
ways
to
support
these
young
people,
make
sure
that
they're
successful
in
life
and
yeah.
I
mean
having
programs
where
we're
making
sure
that
we're
directing
youth
to
use
services
and
and
places
that
they
can
get
support
and
actually
funding
places
like
directions
that
just
got
shut
down.
Funding
places
where
people
and
youth
are
vulnerable.
D
They
can
go
and
get
some
support,
and
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
instead
of
defunding,
you
know
our
core
services
for
young
people
and
then
directing
money
to
go
to
the
giving
it
to
youth
services,
including
schools,.
D
A
All
right,
elizabeth
bell.
A
Thank
you
very
much
council.
That's
it
for
the
registered
speakers
to
this
item,
so
I
would
need
somebody
to
move
this
report.
Please.
E
A
So,
council
we're
starting
on
the
report
as
moved,
which
is
recommendations
a
and
b
just
so
you
know
the
council.
I
have
amendments
that
I
would
like
to
put
forward.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
deputy
mayor
oil
to
deputy
mayor
boyle
to
take
over
the
chair.
Why.
A
You
have
five
minutes
myself
here,
so
they
are
circulated
to
the
clerks
just
as
there
so
council.
I'll
just
start
by
with
a
brief
introduction
saying
I
I
think
the
provisional
government
has
done
us
a
great
service
in
some
ways
with
this
decision.
This
isn't
just
one
decision
about
about
council
funding
police
board
requested
budgets.
This
is
a
series
of
decisions
made
by
the
by
the
director
of
policing
services
provincially
that
has
over
and
over
again
ruled
that
councils
really
have
no
discretion
over
requests
from
the
police
board.
A
This
has
occurred
in
victoria
and
in
vancouver
now
so
I
I
do
think
this
provides
quite
a
lot
of
clarification
to
councils
that,
in
a
sense,
police
boards
are
like
metro.
They
have
an
authority
that
is
backed
up
by
the
province
that,
when
they
make
requests
of
funding
that
there
is
really
no
discretion
by
councils
to
disagree
or
adjust,
even
in
the
most
dire
circumstances
like
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic,
where
we've
laid
off
hundreds
and
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
employees
and
cut
all
other
departments.
A
What's
also
extraordinary
is
the
fact
that
of
our
budget
increase
proposed
of
6.3
percent.
If
c
was
passed,
44
of
our
budget
increase,
our
property
tax
increase,
would
be
due
to
policing.
So
this
is
an
extraordinary
removal
of
local
democracy
from
the
oversight
of
police.
I
would
just
say
also
that,
although
we
recommend
one
person
to
sit
on
the
police
board,
that
appointment
is
made
by
the
province,
so
in
fact
the
police
board
is
entirely
in
point
appointed
by
the
province,
so
the
province
has
removed
our
discretion
over
budgets
essentially
and
they've.
A
Also
they
decide
who
sits
on
the
police
board.
So
this
clarification
is
very
important,
and
so
I
think
this
needs
the
taxpayers
of
the
city
need
to
see
this.
So
I
have
moved
two
amendments.
The
first
is
as
councilor
boyle
mentioned.
I
think
it's
important
to
explain
this
in
a
insert
in
the
tax
bill,
so
that
citizens
know
taxpayers,
know
where
why
their
money's
going
places
and
and
where
it's
going.
So
I
was
hoping
to
move
that
that
amendment
to
include
a
communication
and
let's
take
a
second.
C
A
You
so
much
so
I
do
think
there's
a
ton
of
confusion
around
policing
in
this
city,
being
the
chair
of
a
police
board
that
I
do
not
have
a
vote
or
an
ability
to
move
motions
or
amendments
on
anything.
I
simply
chair
the
meeting
and
keep
good
order
work
with
the
chief
and
the
executive
director
to
work
on
the
agendas,
but
that's
it.
A
So
I
do
think
it's
very
very
important
for
residents
to
understand
how
policing
works
in
the
city
that
that
the
expenses
that
the
expenses
can
constitute
20
percent
of
our
budget.
We
spend
over
a
million
dollars
a
day
on
policing
and
that
essentially,
that
we
have
no
control
over
increases
to
that.
So
I
do.
A
E
E
Okay
and
the
point
of
information
is
when
I'm
looking
the
language
in
mayor
stewart's
amendment
and
when
staff
spoke
earlier
to
the
30
million
dollars
overall
is
trivially
police
budget.
Can
we
get
some
further
clarity
around
that?
Am
I
correct
that
about
15
million
or
15.7
million
of
that
was
a
legal
obligation
related
to
an
arbitration
decision
with
respect
to
police
salaries
and
that
we
do
need
to
differentiate
between
legal
obligations?
That
council
has,
as
opposed
to
sort
of
a
voluntary
inc.
You
know
positioning
that
44
of
this
tax
budget
is
because
of
the
vpd.
B
Thanks
through
the
through
the
chair,
so
yes
certainly-
and
I
don't
have
the
figures-
that
the
figures
at
my
fingertips
here-
counselor
a
significant
proportion
of
the
increase-
is
related
to
compensation
increases
for
vpd
staff.
B
I'm
not
sure
that
there's
any
different
legal
obligation
relative
to
the
other
expenses
that
the
vpd
incurs
compensation
is
just
one
aspect
of
the
vpd's
budget.
Yes,
that
was
that
settlement
was
imposed
on
the
vancouver
police
board
through
an
arbitration.
Ultimately,
though,
it
all
comes
back
to
the
city
to
fund.
So
it's
it's
within
the
overall
framework
of
the
city's
decision
to
fund
the
the
vancouver
police.
E
Okay
and
then
follow-up
question
that,
if
I
can
just
moving
quickly
for
time,
is
it
also
correct,
because
I
really
think
it's
important
that
we
have
clear
and
accurate
information
to
members
of
the
public
if
this
potentially
were
to
happen
and
to
pass
the
council
had
options
at
the
time
of
the
budget.
Deliberations
to
potentially
include
this
and
chose
to
include
other
items.
E
So
we
could
conceivably
put
all
kinds
of
additional
explanation
in
this
to
say
what
we
did
and
didn't
fund
with
respect
to
not
funding
medical
11
for
the
vancouver
fire
department
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
conceivably.
We
could
be
in
a
situation
where,
and
I
know
that
some
councils
are
advocating
for
a
current
tax
increase,
but
the
tax
increase
could
wouldn't
necessarily
happen.
If
council
had
made
other
decisions,
would
we
be?
E
Would
you
think
it
would
be
very
reasonable
to
provide
that
staff
would
provide
a
fulsome
explanation
of
all
of
the
budget
decisions
that
council
took
as
to
what
was
and
wasn't
included
and
why
we
arrived
at
this
increase,
including,
for
example,
the
additional
climate
levy,
including
other
decisions
around
not
supporting
some
of
the
other
pieces
that
were
originally
in
the
budget.
B
Thanks
to
the
chair,
I
mean
ultimately,
it's
up
to
council
to
determine
what
information
you'd
like
to
convey
to
the
public.
So
again,
we're
staff
are
taking
direction
here
and
we
would.
We
would
defer
to
council's
direction
around
the
particular
messages
that
you
may
be
interested
to
include
in
insert
to
accompany
the
tax
notice.
E
Okay,
another
point
of
information.
The
province
recently
announced
this
week,
both
david
and
mr
farnworth,
that
they
were
very
willing
to
step
up
a
mark
with
the
city
when
they
saw,
for
example,
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
were
happening
with
the
egregious
graffiti
in
chinatown
and
the
cultural
connotation
there
and
their
indication
of
support
wasn't
necessarily
related
to
funding
for
greedy
cleanup.
E
But
it
was
potentially
with
higher
consequences
for
prolific
tigers
or
looking
at
restorative
justice
options,
so
that
people
could
really
understand
the
harm
that
was
done
to
communities,
particularly
in
cultural
contexts,
and
have
staff
had
any
engagement
with
the
province
with
the
ministries.
With
respect
to
those
options.
B
E
A
I've
spoken
with
the
ministers
council,
kirby.
E
Okay
and
with
respect
to
the
recommendation
around
or
the
potential
for
restorative
justice
options,
for
example,
is
that
something
that
we've
had
a
chance
to
dialogue
about
at
this
point.
C
E
A
I
have
ongoing
discussions
with
both
the
both
the
solicitor
general
and
the
attorney
general
about
these
matters,
a
constant
conversation
to
try
to
improve
the
justice
system
in
terms
of
fairness
and
effectiveness,
and
some
of
those
conversations
have
occurred.
A
Sure
I
think,
there's
probably
a
different
place
for
that
conversation,
but
I
think
in
general
folks
are
you
know
there
is
a
possibility
of
moving
forward.
E
Okay
thanks
and
then
finally
chair
through
you
a
point
of
procedure
to
the
clerk,
and
then
one
of
you
stopped
by
thanks
for
appointed
procedure.
Is
this
a
severable
amendment
as
it's
currently
written
in
the
two
claws
can
be
separated.
C
Great
question
the
clerk
is
just
looking
and
we'll
get
back
to
you
in
just
a
moment.
C
It
certainly
looks
as
though,
because
c
and
d
are
are
labeled
separately,
that
we
could
vote
separately
on
c
and
d.
Okay,
thank.
P
C
I'm
just
looking
yes,
so,
yes,
we
can.
We
can
vote
separately
on
c
and
d
connect,
so
you
you
can
ask
for
that
now
or
before
we
get
to
the
final
vote.
If
you
would
like.
C
You
thank
you,
councillor
hardwick.
You
are
up
next.
H
The
the
second
part
of
this
amendment,
and-
and
that
is
I
guess
through
the
chair-
is
this.
In
fact,
in
order,
this
fall
would
fall
in
my
reading
outside
of
the
ruling
that
is
being
discussed
on
this
report
today.
So
is
this
in
fact,
in
order,
as
it
would
be
over
the
5.7
million
dollars
that
was
ruled
by
the
provincial
authority.
C
That
is
something
I
will
have
to
pause
and
confer
with
the
city
manager
and
the
clerk
on.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a.
A
Procedure,
usually,
when
there's
a
point
of
order,
it's
required
that
somebody
named
the
portion
of
the
procedural
by-law
that
and
that
has
not
been
named
chair.
C
Okay
thanks:
I
appreciate
that
as
I'm
sort
of
cheering
on
the
fly
so
councillor
hardwick,
there
are
others
on
the
speakers.
I
will
come
back
on
after.
F
Thanks
chair
through
you
point
of
information
to
staff,
if
could
you
just
confirm
for
me
that
the
two
budget
workshops
that
we
had
with
vpd
management
and
vpd
board
held
in
the
fall
prior
to
the
budget,
were
those
considered
in-camera
meetings?
Am
I
allowed
to
speak
to
those
that
dialogue
or
they
just?
B
F
I
appreciate
that
I'll
solve
for
some
comments
around
the.
I
appreciate
the
consideration
around
the
graffiti
abatement,
just
a
consideration
around
amendment
c
in
particular
around
in
the
comment
that
that
the
council
of
the
day
has
no
control
over
the
police
board-endorsed
budget.
It
is
my
recollection
from
our
discussions
with
epd
management
vpd
board.
F
When
I
inquired
about
the
historical
records
around
property
taxes
and
staffing
increases
in
the
vpd,
I
asked
how
they
achieved
what
they
did
with
both
lower
property
taxes
over
10
years
under
vision,
vancouver,
as
well
as
lower
staff
at
the
vpd,
and
my
recollection
was
that
it
was
a
collaborative
process
involving
the
ppd
management
and
vpd
board
and
the
council
of
the
day.
So
I
just
want
to
identify
that
is
that
there
seemed
to
be
a
collaborative
approach
to
looking
at
the
budget
process
how
that
was
achieved.
F
I
don't
know
because
I
was
not
on
council,
but
I
did
ask
the
question
of
the
time
of
that
workshop
to
better
understand
how
that
those
budgets
landed
and
how
the
staffing
had
landed
over
the
years,
and
so
I
just
add
that,
as
commentary
in
light
of
the
request
to
send
an
additional
tax
notice
out
to
residents.
On
that
note,
I
do
have
a
point
of
information
if
I
could
get
confirmation
from
staff
as
to
what
the
cost
would
be
to
do
the
additional
inserts
for
property
tax
notice,
because
that
would
be.
F
C
That
is
a
question
and
I
see
the
city
manager
is
going
to
pass
it
over
to
staff.
Yes,
go
ahead
thanks,
we
do
an.
K
Insert
with
each
with
the
bill
generally,
so
it's
a
question
of
what
information
we
include
on
that
insert.
So
I
would
see
this
as
sort
of
prioritizing
what
we
talk
about
on
the
insert
versus
an
additional
insert.
Otherwise
it
would
be
extra
costs.
Okay,.
F
A
Thanks
so
much
I
didn't
address
the
section
letter
d
and
I
think
we
I
think
I
should
is.
That
c
is
to
explain
to
the
public.
What's
happened
with
their
taxes,
which
I
think
is
critical,
but
d
is
to
show
what
we
can
do.
As
a
council,
we
have
heard
from
chinatown
strathtown,
estrella,
strathcona
gas
town
about
graffiti
and
other,
I
think
you
know
uncleanliness
in
in
these
areas.
A
There's
concerns
about
the
the
cruise
ships
and
and
all
that
type
of
stuff,
that's
coming
through
the
summer
visitors,
and
so
I
think
this
is
the
least
we
can
do
to
help
the
struggling
bias
to
help
the
struggling
businesses
to
help
beautify
the
the
areas
of
the
city
that
needs
it
most.
So
what
I'm
envisioning
here
is
that
these
funds
will
go
on
top
of
what
we
already
spend,
which
is
a
lot
will
go
in
these
extraordinary
circumstances
to
help
those
local
businesses
thrive
and
recover
from
from
the
covet
19..
A
So
I
do
think,
though,
that
we
should
ask
the
province
to
put
their
money
where
their
mouth
is.
We've
had
two
ministers
come
out
and
said
they
would
help
us,
and
I
do
think
that
we
should
request
the
province
match
these
funds,
because
vancouver
is
the
core
of
the
provincial
economy
and
tourism
is
a
huge
part
of
that,
and
so
that's
why
I've
included
letter
d.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
mayor,
counselor
weep.
You
are
up
next.
G
Yeah,
I
really
appreciate
see,
I
think,
it's
important
for
us
to
have
that
dialogue.
As
for
d,
I'm
wondering
what
you
talked
a
little
bit
now,
which
is
helpful.
What
are
you
hoping
to
see
here
is
this
free
walls?
Is
this
working
with
organizations
to
do
murals?
Is
this
anti-graffiti
paint?
Is
this
working
restorative
justice?
We
heard
with
youth
that
are
in
difficult
situations
in
here,
because
we
have
heard
from
some
of
the
cultural
groups
that
they've
done.
G
A
Thanks
very
much,
I
think
that
our
staff
are
experts
via
our
experts
and
what
we
should
do
as
a
council
is
to
kind
of
get
out
of
the
way,
but
get
the
folks
the
funds
they
need
to
to
make
this
happen.
So
I
think,
there's
over
and
over
again,
we've
seen
a
terrible
defacing
in
chinatown,
but
I
think
that
those
money
should
go
directly
to
the
groups
that
that
know
where
they're
needed
the
most.
A
G
I
put
an
amendment
to
the
amendment
or
to
the
amendment
on
the
floor
and
that's
just
to
add
and
street
beautification
as
someone
that
used
to
be
involved
in
the
street
beautification
committee
with
mount
pleasant
bia,
I
recognize
how
much
more
it
is
to
public
realm
than
just
graffiti
abatement
and
that
we
need
to
do
more
of
painting
the
polls
in
chinatown
and
other
works.
So
I
hope
we
can
expand
this
to
include
street
beautification
to
recognize
that
some
areas
have
asked
for
flower
boxes
and
never
had
them
in
their
neighborhoods.
G
C
H
Yes,
as
as
with
the
mayor's
amendment
again
that
the
problem
still
remains
with
the
second
part
of
this
motion
that,
I
believe
is
is
out
of
order
under
section
8.7
f
this.
This
is
clearly
outside
of
the
scope
of
of
what
is
being
undertaken
with
this
report
back,
it
is
outside
what
the
the
provincial
authority
had
discussed
with
the
5.7
million
dollars
in
the
police
budget.
H
This
is
tacking,
something
on
that
is
again
outside
scope
and
again,
the
reference
for
the
purposes
of
examination
is
8.7,
f
and
that's
on
on
the
mayor's
amendment.
But
since
it's
contained
in
councillor
weeb's
amendment
to
the
amendment,
it
also
needs
to
be
addressed
here.
C
On
on
both
this
amendment
to
the
amendment
and
f
of
the
original
amendment,
it,
my
ruling
is
that
it
is
outside
of
the
scope
of
the
original
staff
report,
and
so
both
the
amendment
to
the
amendment
and
the
original
amendment
would
be
out
of
order.
The
mover
of
the
original
amendment
can
still
bring
back
e
on
its
own
and
I'll
note
as
well.
C
C
So
I
will
take
us
back
to
yes
point
of
procedure.
Counselor
weeb.
G
C
I'm
going
to
say
I
can
look
at
that
if
see
we're
back
on
the
floor,
but
I'm
not
gonna
get
take
a
recess
now
to
consider
that
in
the
abstract,
so
we're
back
on
the
original
queue
and
mayor
stewart.
You
still
have
the
floor.
A
Thanks
chair,
I
would
like
to
move
e
that
I
circulated.
C
C
Okay,
council,
the
amendment
e
moved
by
mayor
stewart
and
second
by
councillor
weave,
is
on
the
screen.
There's
no
one
on
the
speakers
list.
So
we'll
move
to
a
vote
on
that.
C
Swanson,
I
see
you
on
the
speaking
list,
but
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
vote.
So
unless
it's
related
to
a
challenge:
okay,
you're
off.
B
Chair,
I
just
want
to
clarify
I'm
seeing
we're
voting
on
e.
That's
on
screen
right
now,.
C
A
A
So
thanks
to
the
council
for
for
passing
that
I
think
it's
important
information
to
get
to
the
public.
I
would
say
that
I
am
disappointed
that
the
that
we
we
didn't
allow
discretion
on.
The
second
part
of
the
motion
is
that
that
it
was
challenged
and
not
done
the
spirit
of
what
it
was
meant
to
be
is
that
we
do
know
we
have
a
crisis
in
in
various
neighborhoods.
A
I
thought
500
000
would
go
a
long
way,
but
that
counselors
went
out
of
their
way
to
not
deliver
those
funds
to
business
improvement,
associations
and
local
bodies
is
disappointing.
So
I
do
respect
your
ruling
chair,
but
I
thought
in
the
spirit
of
all
working
together
to
help
us
get
through
the
pandemic.
That
would
have
been
allowed
and
I'm
I'm
disappointed
that
it
was
challenged
by
a
counselor.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
on
the
main
queue
we
have
counselor
swanson.
A
Thank
you,
council
response.
Do
we
have
a
second
for
this.
C
A
A
I
don't
see
that
there's
any
way.
There
is
no
appeal
mechanism
for
this
to
happen.
If
we
rejected
the
the
decision
and
we
didn't
pay,
we
would
enter
enter
into
legal
action
with
the
province
where
essentially,
they
would
order
us
to
pay
that
could
wind
up
in
court.
So
I
think
we
have
to
understand.
A
When
you
know
a
creature
of
the
province
is
ordered
to
do
something
by
the
province
but
at
the
same
time
explain
to
the
public.
What
exactly
has
happened
here
with
a
transfer
of
authority
from
the
city
to
the
province,
basically
taking
almost
entirely
control
of
police
out
of
our
hands.
So
I
won't
vote
for
this
because
I
don't
see
that
getting
in
a
long,
retracted,
legal
fight
with
the
province
is
worthwhile,
but
rather
I
just
move
ahead
on
on
making
the
city
better
using
the
authorities
that
we
do
have.
So.
Thank
you.
H
Yes,
I
would
like
to
question
you
through
you
mayor
whether
this
is
in
order
under
8.7,
a
good
rule
in
government
of
the
city.
H
Else,
no
consideration
would
be
nice,
but
that's
clearly
not
coming.
Thank
you.
A
If
you'd
like
to
continue
to
speak
in
council,
I'd
just
like
you
to
to
keep
within
the
boundaries
of
the
discussion,
thanks,
counselor
swanson.
J
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
that
asking
the
staff
to
investigate
options,
including
judicial
review,
which
I
understand
is
is
possible-
is
a
way
to
send
a
strong
voice
to
the
province
that
we
don't
like
this-
that
we
need
some
some
control
over
our
own
policing
and
that
we
need
to
do
what
our
residents
have
asked
us
to
do
in
terms
of
trying
to
replace
community-led
trying
to
replace
police
services
with
community-led
services.
F
Sorry,
sorry,
I
was
trying
to
get
actually
on
the
queue
thanks
I'll.
Just
briefly
speak
to
this,
I
won't
be
supporting
this
amendment
and
it
harkens
back
to
the
dialogue
that
we
had
in
december
when
we
were
contemplating.
F
The
budget
council
was
fairly
warned
that
there
was
a
risk
of
this
being
appealed
to
the
province,
and
indeed
that
did
happen
and
that
there
would
be
a
ruling
around
this
and
and,
as
I
said
at
that
time,
I
think
it's
important
to
be
supporting
public
safety,
particularly
in
light
of
the
concerns
we're
hearing
from
residents
and
if
we
want
to
have
a
broader
conversation
around
strategically
around
how
we
deliver
services
and
what
type
of
additional
services
are
necessary
to
support
residents
and
individuals
in
our
communities.
F
We
should
be
having
that
conversation
with
the
province.
We've
made
a
formal
submission
to
the
police
act
review
that
included
a
number
of
suggestions
around
ancillary
or
complementary
services
through,
for
example,
the
canadian
mental
health
association
has
pure-led
supports
for
mental
health
crisis
intervention.
There
is
so.
I
think
that
there
is
a
big
conversation
to
be
had
around
service
delivery
frameworks
in
this
province
and
that's
why
there's
a
police
act
review
underway
and
why
we
made
a
formal
submission
to
that.
F
But
when
we
had
this
discussion
at
the
time
in
december,
we
did
not
have
a
plan
and
the
result
was
that
vpd
was
not
able
to
hire
an
additional
61
recruits,
and
so
I
won't
be
supporting
this
amendment
by
councillor
swanson.
Thank
you.
E
Yeah
thanks
chair,
I
also
will
not
be
supporting
this
and
I
was
really
struck
by
some
language
in
the
report
and
the
decision
from
wayne
right
out
was
attached
to
this
report.
That's
in
front
of
council
today-
and
I
just
want
to
read
some
language
that
I
think
is
really
important
in
terms
of
resetting
here
in
the
city
of
vancouver
in
the
interest
of
all
residents
and
at
the
end
of
the
decision.
This
is
what
the
director
of
police
services
said.
E
I
have
no
doubt
that
this
will
better
serve
public
safety
in
the
community
and
will
reduce
reliance
on
section
27.3
to
resolve
future
budget
disputes,
and
my
read
on
that
is
that
the
rather
than
this
combative
relationship
that
has
pitted
the
council
of
vancouver
against
it's
one
of
its
two
very
important
public
safety
services,
and
we
have
two
police
and
fire
that
we
are
really
being
given
a
very
clear
signal
here.
It's
not
subtle.
E
It's
quite
clear,
and
I
think
constructive
to
reengage
on
that
conversation
for
the
betterment
of
all
residents,
and
I
think
that's
really
important,
as
opposed
to
a
litigious
path
forward,
so
I
actually
will
sort
of
affirm
the
mayor's
sentiment
on
that
one.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
like
to
raise
is
that
it
also
references
in
the
report
that
there
are
some
upcoming
additional
processes
to
ensure.
E
Prudent
use
of
funds
and
the
allocation
to
the
vpd,
and
I
would
also
note
that
the
new
auditor
general
for
the
city
of
vancouver
has
included
a
review
for
vpd
in
their
2023
audit
plan,
and
that
is
forthcoming
and
the
you
know.
Wayne
wright
also
makes
reference
to
that
in
this
decision,
that
that
will
be
information
that
will
be
useful
for
council
to
have,
as
we
continue
to
ensure
that
we
have
due
diligence
and
good
fiscal
management
at
the
city,
while
also
delivering
on
some
of
these
key
public
safety
services.
E
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
those
two
points
in
terms
of
context
around
this
decision,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
move
forward.
The
other
thing
I'll
say
too
you've
often
heard
me
say
this
is
that
we
do
not
need
to
pit
public
safety
services
against
social
services.
We
actually
need
it
to
be
an
end
in
our
city.
E
We
don't
need
it
to
be
neither
or
we
need
it
to
be
an
end,
and
we
need
to
be
vociferous
advocates
for
a
lot
of
those
gaps
that
we
have
in
terms
of
particularly
mental
health
and
addiction,
support
and
particularly
poverty
and
that's
playing
out
on
our
streets,
and
I
would
applaud
the
work
for
the
mayor's
council
in
terms
of
complex
care
and
looking
at
creative
and
other
solutions
to
fill
and
support
those,
and
I
think
that
council's
energy
is
much
better
served
and
positively
trying
to
advocate
to
bring
those
needed
services
forward
than
it
is
in
continuing
the
sort
of
punitive
legal
kind
of
pitching
contest.
E
A
H
A
Yeah,
so
the
the
this
decision
has
not
been
made.
Yet
we
haven't
had
a
vote
and,
with
the
other
emotion
has
not
yet
been
moved,
so
have
to
wait
till
we
get
there.
H
Anything
else
again,
the
question
was
whether
it
would
if
it
were
successful
whether
it
would
make
the
motion
redundant.
O
A
Okay,
counselor
hardwick.
I
know
I
understand
your
question.
I
think
I
misunderstood
it.
What
will
this
will
have
to
be
a
striker
in
place
on
b.
A
It'll
have
to
it'll
have
because
it's
a
direct
controversy,
you
know
contradiction.
You
are
correct
that
this
would
have
to
replace
b,
so
it
should
be
viewed
as
a
strike
and
replace.
J
A
E
Mayor
can
we
see
the
amendment
on
screen?
I
just
want
to
be
clear
on
which
amendment
there's
a
lot
flying
around.
Please.
A
Thank
you,
council,
kirby
young.
We
need
your
vote
and
counselor
desi
nova.
Please
mark
her
as
a
conflict,
great
that
fails
with
counselor
kirby
young
bligh,
dominato,
weave
hardwick
fry
car
and
myself
in
opposition
thanks,
so
much
council
we're
going
to
go
back
to
councillor
swanson.
You
have
three
and
a
half
minutes.
J
From
the
amendment
that
I
was
hoping
to
make
later,
but
probably
won't
get
to
asking
for
us
to
just
say
that
we
disapprove
of
the
of
the
order
to
pay
the
police
and
to
ask
the
minister
how
we
can
have
input
into
how
the
city
can
have
been
put
into
things
that
the
police
do.
C
C
Sure,
just
to
say,
I'm
happy
to
support
this.
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
continue
to
seek
clarity
about
this
decision
and
and
to
understand
where
our
responsibility
and
oversight
lies.
There's
there's
clearly
significant
confusion
on
these
fronts
and
and
and
across
the
board,
a
need
to
better
understand
who
what
levels
of
government
are
responsible
here
in
terms
of
funding
and
in
terms
of
other
policy
and
direction
so
certainly
happy
to
support
this.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
weed.
G
Yeah,
I
think,
as
we've
talked
today,
this
is
an
important
dialogue
to
have.
I
do
think
that
there
is
some
communication
that
needs
to
be
improved
for
us
to
really
have
a
conversation
of
how
we're
going
to
improve
community
safety
and,
while
being
in
the
city
in
the
writer
report.
G
It
also
talks
in
the
report
about
that.
We
should
have
met
prior
to
november
30th.
We
heard
from
council
dominator
about
our
multiple
meetings.
This
was
a
long
process
to
get
to
where
we
were.
I
think
it
was
a
very
important
dialogue
to
really
talk
about
what
we
need
to
do
to
make
people
feel
safe
in
the
city
and
the
different
ways
of
getting
there.
G
So
I
will
be
supportive
of
elements
of
really
starting
to
have
this
dialogue,
and
I
really
appreciate
a
lot
of
the
amendments
coming
from
council,
because
I
think
it
is
important
for
us
to
really
explain
to
the
province
and
to
our
citizens.
Why
we're
having
this
dialogue
and
what
needs
to
happen
to
make
changes
to
improve
the
safety
here
in
vancouver.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
dominato.
F
A
A
It
should
be
up
now:
it's
in
red
letters,
d
and
e.
A
P
Apologies,
I
had
just
received
the
amendment
from
councillor
swanson,
so
I
was
working
with
newly
received
motion,
but
it
basically
is
to
add
to
cancer
sponsors
amendment
further
that
the.
P
So
further
you
take
out
the
fur,
the
first
line
and
further
that
it's
just
what's
highlighted
in
yellow
further
that
the
mayor
included
his
letter
to
minister
farms
with
a
request
for
increased
provincial
government
investment
in
provincial
services
and
programs.
That
would
decrease
the
need
for
and
costs
of,
policing
in
vancouver,
including
investments
in
mental
health
and
addiction,
services
and
treatment,
restorative
justice
programs,
criminal
justice
reforms
and
affordable
and
supportive
housing.
P
And
the
reason
I
add
this
if
we
are
writing
to
the
to
the
minister
regarding
our
police
budget
and
the
approval
of
that
budget
over
which
we
appear
to
have
little
control
in
terms
of
line
items.
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
us
to
ask
the
minister
to
be
very
supportive
of
and
invest
in
the
kinds
of
programs
that
would
decrease
those
costs
rather
than
us
dealing
with
increased
costs
year
after
year
to
the
police
budget.
P
We
all
know
that
those
costs
are
because
there
are
insufficient
investments
right
now
in
the
items
that
I
have
listed,
and
this
would
would
help
our
city
immeasurably
in
terms
of
both
reducing
vpd
costs
and
increasing
the
well-being
of
of
people
both
who
are
suffering
from
addiction
issues,
for
example,
homelessness,
and
I'm
hoping
that
there
will
be
support
for
this.
A
If
a
secondary
second,
I
heard
counselor
boyle
first,
so
I'll
move
us
to
amendment
queue.
Anybody
like
to
speak
to
this
amendment
to
the
amendment
I
haven't
had
one
of
those
for
a
while
really
counselor,
harvard
amendment
to
the
amendment.
H
Yes,
I
just
might
it's
a
point
of
procedure?
Is
it
possible
to
sever
this
amendment
from
the
rest
of
this
of
councillor
swanson's
amendment.
A
I
imagine
it
would
be
because
it's
a
further
that,
but
it
anticipates
I
will
have
to
check
with
the
clerks.
Yes,
because
it's
a
letter,
we
could
just
not
include
this
in
the
letter
so
I'll
rule
that
it's
severable.
H
But
is
the
reverse
true
that
it
would
be
possible
to
support
e
the
the
the
addition
without.
A
Great,
so,
council
herbert
the
way
this
is
written
letter
e
gives
the
direction
it's
the
verb
to
to
write
a
letter
essentially,
and
the
further
just
adds
extra
information
to
the
letter.
So
if
we
were
not
to
pass
e,
then
there'd
be
no
letter
to
include
the
additional
information.
Sorry,
it's
technical,
but
that's
so
we
the
it's
severable,
but
you
can't
vote
for
e
and
further
that
and
and
the
further
that
would
have
no
effect
if
e
was
not
passed.
E
A
I
can
I
can
repeat
that
again
so
clause
e
that
councilor
swanson's
suggesting
for
a
letter
to
go
into
minister
farnworth
that
can
be
supplemented
with
the
further
that
that
that
councilor
carr
has
suggested
and
those
votes
are
severable.
So
you
could
vote
on
e
first
and
then
the
further
that
second.
A
A
It
yep
counselor.
G
Good
question
to
the
mover
through
the
chair,
sure
yeah,
I'm
just
wondering
if
peer
assisted
crisis
teams
seem
to
fit
into
this
realm,
so
those
are
the
type
of
ideas
that
you're
hoping
to
see
moving
forward
perfect.
Thank
you.
That's
all
my
questions.
E
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
mean
there's
nothing
new
here
that
I
feel
that
council
hasn't
vociferously
advocated
for
before
we
haven't
had
dozens
of
amendments
on
saying
a
similar
thing,
but
I'm
happy
to
continue
to
sing
from
the
same
song
sheet
and
say
it
again,
because
the
need
is
great
in
the
city
and
I
think
we're
all
aware
of
that
and
that's
where
we
have
gaps
as
I
referenced
earlier
in
my
conversation.
E
So
if
we
want
to
continue
saying
this
and
being
the
same
drum
over
and
over
again,
I'm
happy
to
be
part
of
the
band,
even
though
I
think
that
we
said
it.
But
if
you
want
to
drum
up
the
noise
a
little
bit
louder
happy
to
do
that
thanks.
J
P
Thanks
mayor,
I
have
submitted
an
admit
of
change.
We.
A
A
But
what
you're
voting
on
is
the
the
section
in
yellow
you're
you're
voting
that
that
would
be
added
to
clause
e.
A
Maybe
the
clerks
can
just
clarify
where
we
well.
I
can
clarify
counselor
swanson
moved
an
amendment
to
the
to
the
main
report,
which
includes
letters,
d
and
e
that
are
on
the
screen
in
red.
The
councillor
carr
moved
an
amendment
to
this
amendment,
which
is
the
yellow,
highlighted
further,
that
that
would
be
included
in
the
letter
and
that's
what
we're
voting
on
and
we
do
have
votes
registered
and
so
councillor
hardwick.
We
just
need
you
to
vote
of
including
e
the
addition
to
e.
A
Okay,
that
passes
unanimously
thanks
very
much
council
we're
going
back
to
the
q
council
car.
You
have
two
and
a
half
minutes
left.
D
E
C
C
So
it
would
be
a
further
that
and
in
line
with
the
other
notes
about
this
communication
with
minister
farnworth,
this
is
really
asking
for
clarity
about
who
is
defining
investments
in
public
safety
and
how
and
whether
investments
in
the
example
I'll
use
is
the
community
safety
pilot
project
that
the
city
recently
announced
whether
investments
that
we
are
making
in
efforts
like
that
are
considered
within
the
bucket
of
public
safety
and
would
be
considered
in
funding
decisions.
C
We've
heard
very
clearly
and
consistently
for
a
couple
years
now
from
from
the
community,
as
well
as
from
the
vpd
that
there
needs
to
be
a
range
of
approaches
to
addressing
the
safety
issues
that
our
community
faces.
C
Police
are
not
the
the
only
response,
or
necessarily
the
appropriate
response
for
some
of
those
challenges,
and
so
I
think,
just
as
as
the
mayor
said
it
this
decision
from
the
province
provided
clarity.
I
think
it's
really
important
in
this
conversation,
broader
conversation
that
we
get
clarity
about
what
decisions
we
can
make,
and
so
this
would
just
be
seeking
some
of
that
clarity.
A
G
Yeah
I
would
like
to
speak
in
support
in
the
letter
it
talks
about
the
minister
of
public
safety
and
solicitor.
General's
responsibility
is
public
safety
and
that's
at
its
core,
and
so
this
will
be
interesting
to
continue
to
have
further
dialogue,
and
I
think
that's
important
to
the
conversation
today.
A
A
On
the
now,
maybe
the
clerks
could
pull
up
the
the
whole
amendment
as
as
for
consideration
to
council.
C
Well,
the
clerk's
pulling
that
up
I'll
just
say:
I'm
happy
to
support
all
of
this.
Obviously,
a
a
letter
with
each
of
these
requests
is
just
a
starting
point
for
a
conversation,
and
it's
really
clear
that
this
is
a
conversation
that
we
need
to
be
having
with
the
province,
both
as
it
relates
to
the
work
that
they're
doing
on
the
police,
act
and
and
provincially,
and
also
specifically
about
challenges
that
we
are
facing
as
a
local
government
and
our
role
in
their
role.
In
that.
A
A
Yeah
just
before
this
vote,
if
we
could
send
this,
this
proposed
amended
amendment
to
council.
That
would
be
great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
councillor.
We
please
continue.
A
Just
amen
before
the
amendment
before
we
vote
on
this
amendment,
we
will
send
an
email
to
you
with
all
the
text.
It
is
all
visible
on
the
screen
right
now.
That
can
start
you
on
your
way,
but
but
it
will
be
emailed
to
you,
counselor
fry.
Q
Much
as
I
hate
to
do
this,
I'm
gonna
supply
an
amendment
to
the
amendment
I'm
just
quickly
addressing
it.
Okay,.
Q
Sorry
I
apologize
the
gist
is
reflecting
in
the
letter
to
minister
farnworth,
the
the
the
because
I
I
I
as
I
read,
counselor
boyle's
thoughtful
amendments.
I
do
recognize
that
these
are
items
of
provincial
downloading
and
I
I
I
would
seek
from
mr
farnworth
some
clarification
as
part
of
the
police
act
review,
the
role
of
of
the
city
to
pay
for
some
of
these
functions
that
are
otherwise
statutory,
provincial
responsibilities.
A
B
Thanks
mark,
I
just
want
to
speak
in
support.
I
think
that
this
that
councillor
fry
is
is
adding
a
very
thoughtful
amendment.
We
have
to
recognize
that
part
of
this
debate
consistently
over
the
last
few
years.
That
council
is
recognizing
the
level
of
downloading
from
the
provincial
government
to
local
governments
trying
to
fill
in
some
of
the
gaps
that
they
then
may
result
in
unnecessary
calls
to
police.
So
we
all
from
what
I've
heard
recognize
that
there
is
an
issue.
B
What
we're
trying
to
understand
better
is
the
operational
change
and
and
have
the
province
lead.
That
discussion,
which
is
having
this
question
this
morning
entirely,
is
the
province
ultimately
is
responsible
for
housing,
for
mental
health
and
addictions,
and
for
for
maintaining
public
safety
in
a
much
more
holistic
and
broader
context.
So
we,
as
city
of
vancouver,
cannot
go
at
it
alone.
B
We've
tried
that
we're
not
able
to
do
it
and
we're
seeing
a
deterioration
on
our
streets
because
of
it.
So
I
think
I'm
so
very
much
supportive
of
the
amendment
and
just
wanted
to
reflect
those
comments
into
the
broader
conversation
that
we're
having
this
morning.
Thank.
E
Yeah,
I'm
would
be
helpful
because
I
said
this
is
november,
but
I'm
not
clear
where
this
fits
in
to
the
up
the
other
amendment
and
I
don't
have
a
full
copy
out
of
what's
been
passed.
So
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
see
the
other
text.
So
this
relates
on
screen
not
seeing
an
updated
email
or
remember
for
the
clerk.
Yet.
E
A
As
requested,
what
was
sent
around
was
this
amendment
that
was
put
forward
by
councilor
swanson
as
amended,
so
that
email
has
been
sent
to
you.
However,
councillor
frye
has
added
this
last
minute
edition,
which
has
not
yet
been
sent
to
you
so,
but
it
is
on
screen.
A
Well,
the
context
is
you:
we
have
sent
you
an
email
with
the
amendment,
as
amended
with
this
is
now
being
considered
for
this
is
this
is
now
being
put
forward
for
consideration,
so
we
can
send
you
this
if
you
like,
by
email.
E
E
But
this
is
an
income.
Okay,
then
maybe
I
can
ask
this
question
a
different
way
as
a
point
of
information.
This
is
an
incomplete
sentence,
so
I'm
trying
to
see
what
this
is
connecting
to
in
the
next
one,
because
it
literally
is
a
hanging
sentence
that
ends
with
it
says
whether
investments
in
the
city
makes
towards
other
statutory
principles
responsibly
to
be
the
police
after
view,
and
then
there's
nothing
that
comes
with
that.
E
A
You
like
to
challenge
this
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
it's
in
order,
because
that's
about
the
only
way.
E
A
You
could
ask
if
it's
out
of
order,
that's
the
only.
D
A
Q
And
I
appreciate
that
it's
a
little
grammatically
clunky-
I
I
did
kind
of
throw
it
in
there
at
as
an
amendment
to
an
amendment
unlimited
time
typing
as
fast
as
I
could
the
intent-
and
I
think,
regardless
of
the
clunkiness
of
the
grammar,
the
intent
is
to
have
the
letter
that
the
mayor's
writing
include
a
request
to
clarify
the
provinces,
how
the
province
defines
investments
in
public
safety
and
whether
those
investments
that
we
are
making
for
their
otherwise
statutory
responsibilities.
J
Yeah,
I
think
these
amendments
are
all
trying
to
get
at
the
various
aspects
of
this
huge
problem
that
we're
faced
with
first
one
being
that
the
vpd,
the
police
board
and
director
of
police
services
have
the
sole
authority
over
policing
in
vancouver
and
the
second
one
being
that
the
city
has
already
told
the
vpd
that
our
priority
is
to
replace
police
with
community-led
services
in
the
areas
of
homelessness,
drug
use,
sex
work
and
mental
health
and
the
third
one
being.
J
The
human
rights
commission
came
up
with
this
great
report.
I
love
the
title
of
it.
Equity
is
safer
and
they
talk
about
detasking,
the
police
and
that's
what
the
almost
400
people
who
signed
up
to
speak
at
the
decriminalization
of
poverty
motion
wanted
right.
J
F
Thanks
mayor,
just,
I
think,
I've
gotten
clarity,
but
the
amendment
is
it
possible
after
we
vote
on
this
further
amendment.
Could
we
have
a
five
minute
recess
because
there
seems
to
be
confusion,
I'm
hearing
from
counselors
about
the
flow
of
the
amendments
and
where
they
sit.
A
F
A
Come
back
to
you
to
ask
for
that
sure
councillor
fry.
Q
Yeah
thanks
mayor,
I
just
given
my
remaining
time
on
this.
I
thought
I
would
just
resubmit
and
fix
up
that
clause
to
the
satisfaction,
perhaps
of
council.
A
A
F
Thanks
so
I'd
like
to
move
that
five
minute
recess
now,
so
that
we
could
get
thank
you
secretary.
A
And
all
in
favor
of
a
rece,
it's
just
a
reminder
to
the
council,
we're
still
on
an
amendment
queue,
so
we
still
have
to
vote
on
councillor
swanson's
amended
amendment
a
very
amended
amendment.
So
if
you
want
to
take
a
break
now,
that's
fine!
I
just
want
to
let
you
know.
So
we
have
a
motion
on
the
for
the
recess
for
five
minutes.
We
have
all
in
favor,
yay.
A
Nay,
great
okay,
so
we'll
see
you
back
at
let's
say:
11
30.
B
A
A
So
I
don't
see
anybody
else
on
the
queue,
so
I'm
going
to
go
to
vote
on
the
amended
amendment.
It's
on
the
screen,
d
d
and
clerks
just
remind
us
we're
voting
on
d
and
e.
A
Counselor
dominato
here
we
go
so
that
has
passed
with
counselor
kirby
young
bly,
dominato
and
hardwick
in
opposition,
okay,
back
to
the
main
queue
counselor
swanson,
any
other
amendment
or
closing
comments.
J
J
I'm
glad
this
passed
thanks.
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
send
a
strong
message
to
the
province
that
it's
not
right
to
ignore
our
priorities,
that
we
desperately
need
funds
because
of
what's
been
downloaded
on
us
by
their
low
welfare
rates.
Their
refusal
to
provide
enough
housing
to
end
homelessness
by
the
lack
of
safe
supply
and
yeah.
We
just
we
just
need
the
ability
to
do
what
people
in
our
city
need,
and
we
can't
do
it
with
police.
A
P
Yes,
I
am
going
to
support
this
decision
and
I
you
know,
I
really
feel
that
the
additions
we
made
in
terms
of
amendments
are
incredibly
important.
It
is
very
frustrating
to
be
sitting
at
the
council
table
and
feel
that
you
don't
have
any
choice
but
to
vote
yes
or
no
to
a
whole
department's
budget,
which
is
23
24
of
our
overall
budget,
and
I'm
really
hoping
that
the
police
act
review
looks
into
that
situation
at
the
provincial
level.
P
I
believe
that
vancouver
should
be
represented
in
that
police
act
review,
which
it
currently
isn't,
and
I
do
think
that
the
letter
and
the
amendments
we've
made
to
the
letter
that
to
be
written
by
the
mayor
are
strong
messages
to
the
minister
around
this.
We
know
that
we
are
facing
increased
costs
around
the
police
department
because
of
the
downloading
of
services.
P
Sorry,
the
downloading
onto
the
city
to
to
address
the
issues
and
problems
that
could
be
ameliorated
by
and
create
increased
investments
in
in
everything
from
you
know:
affordable
and
supportive
housing
to
addiction
and
mental
health
services
to
alternative
ways
of
of
of
restorative
justice
within
the
system
and
and
I'm
really
hoping
that
the
minister
listens
to
that
and
and
and
I
really
hope
the
police
act
review
ends
up
with
an
ability
of
a
city
like
ours
to
actually
work
in
a
more
collaborative
way.
P
A
A
C
C
E
I
have
a
line
of
information
I
don't
have,
and
I
don't
know
why
I
an
emailed
copy
of
this.
Yet
I
see
that
I
was
going
to
ask
what
the
c
was
is
an
email
copy
being
sent
around
it.
A
E
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Cancer
fry.
Q
Yeah
you
know,
I
I
respect
that.
Q
The
the
decision
that
right
out's
made
is
is
is
that's
his
role,
and
this
is
the
the
role
under
the
police
act
and,
as
the
mayor's
alluded
earlier,
we
are
a
creature
of
the
province
and
we're
sort
of
obligated
by
those
standards
and
the
standards
of
the
police
act
suggests
that
we
need
to
maintain
a
police
force
of
satisfactory
strength
to
meet
the
needs
and
and
and
that's
how
the
framework
so
and
that's
that's
where
the
framework
kind
of
disconnects,
because
we
are
literally
just
here
to
sign
the
checks
and
and
and
that
is
problematic-
and
I
think,
stepping
back
in
time
a
little
bit
to
the
time
that
we
made
a
decision
to
freeze
the
police
budget.
Q
We
were
faced
with
some
unprecedented
times
in
the
pandemic
and
regardless
of
the
role
of
policing
in
the
role
of
the
province
and
addressing
some
of
these
things,
the
reality
is
is
that
we
saw
a
significant
decrease
in
a
lot
of
the
the
visitations
to
our
city
in
the
form
of
the
granville
entertainment
district
in
the
form
of
hockey
games
soccer
games,
football
games,
all
those
kind
of
aspects
that
need
a
significant
amount
of
policing
resource
to
service,
essentially
the
region
and
and-
and
we
were
correct
in
ascertaining
that
there
was
less
demand
for
some
of
those
services
and
we
were
making
cuts
across
the
board
to
all
of
our
departments
in
order
to
stave
off
some
pretty
significant
financial
impacts
of
the
pandemic
on
our
city.
Q
So
that
decision
was
a
sound
decision.
It
was
not
inspired
by
the
sort
of
defund
notion,
as
has
been
suggested
by
some
of
the
pundits
and
and
speakers
that
we
heard
today.
Q
I
think
it
was
a
reflection
of
the
reality
of
the
time
and
I
do
think
that
the
amendments
that
we've
provided
in
this
direction
with
the
mayor
to
to
right
minister
farnworth
and
really
reflect
on
the
complexities
of
being
the
biggest
city
in
the
province,
the
largest
city
in
the
region
and
responsible
for
a
great
deal
of
policing
that
we
we
are
picking
up
the
tab
as
the
city
of
vancouver
for
a
lot
of
things
that
are
effectively
downloaded
from
the
provincial
government,
effectively
downloaded
by
the
region
and
and
and
we
need
to
have
that
conversation
and
I'm
incredibly
disappointed
that
the
police
act
review,
as
is
ongoing.
Q
Right
now,
has
no
representation
from
the
city
of
vancouver.
I'm
I'm
a
bit
shocked
that
we
have
no
elected
mlas
from
our
city
with
the
largest
police
force
in
the
province,
and
we
have
no
representation
on
the
provincial
police
act
review,
which
does
not
give
me
a
lot
of
confidence
in
the
process.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
the
mayor
will
be
including
some
of
the
language
that
we've
suggested
in
a
letter
to
minister
farmworth,
and
I
hope
we
can
move
the
dial
on
some
of
this,
because
it
is
very
frustrating.
Q
A
Just
wondering
counselor
boyle,
you
can
take
the
chair.
While
I
ask
a
point
of
information
to
the
staff.
A
Thank
you
very
much
staff
I
was
wondering
so
it
doesn't
look
like
we'll
be
moving
to
add
the
to
increase
property
tax
rate
this
year.
So
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
recalculate
for
me
if
we
stick
at
our
current
property
tax
increase
and
we
we
do
pay
for
this
increase
out
of
our
reserves.
B
Thank
you
colin
knight,
director
of
financial
planning
and
analysis.
So,
given
that,
as
patrice
empty
noted
earlier
that,
with
the
updated
assessment
rule
information,
the
property
tax
increase
estimate
would
be
5.7
versus
the
6.3
5
percent.
The
council
originally
was
in
the
original
budget
approval
the
revised
vpd
budget
increase
of
30.8
million,
which
includes
the
5.7
directed
by
the
director
of
police
services.
B
That
would
be
that
would
mean
that
the
the
vpd
portion
of
the
property
tax
increase
would
be
49
percent.
Okay,.
C
At
all
for
you
mayor,
thank
you,
okay,
I
will
pass
the
chair
back
to
you
call
on
you
and
I
I
just
wanted
to
clarify.
Having
re-read
what
staff
circulated
that
it's
just
b
that
I'd
like
to
sever
out
for
a
separate
vote?
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
counselor
dominato
about
four
minutes.
F
Thanks
mayor
and
I'd
like
to
sever
a
and
b
just
to
put
that
note
now
separate.
A
F
You
and
just
I
want
to
speak
to
a
couple
of
issues.
I
was
listening
to
sarah
blyth
when
she
phoned
in
on
the
subject
of
this
report
and-
and
she
touched
on
a
much
broader
issue
of
the
upstream
needs
in
society
and
supports
that
are
necessary.
F
And
so,
when
I
reflect
on
some
of
the
conversations
and
dialogue
we're
having
today,
I
think
there's
a
recognition
that
we
have
a
a
lot
of
challenges
that
go
far
back
into
early
childhood,
with
many
young
people
and
and
recognizing
trauma
and
the
move
of
agencies
to
move
to
more
trauma
and
foreign
practice.
F
But
we
could
also
look
at
our
foster
care
system,
which
certainly
has
seen
its
abuses
and
challenges,
bullying
and
violence
in
schools
of
young
people
and
then
untreated
unsupported
mental
health
in
young
people
and
as
well
as
adults
and
parents,
and
so
recognizing
that
we
have
some
really
complex
societal
issues
that
we
need
to
grapple
with,
that
we're
not
just
going
to
be
addressing
fully
at
the
specific
level
of
government.
F
Supports
early
and
here's
where
I
would
focus
my
energy
and-
and
you
know
at
the
provincial
level-
is
on
prevention
and
early
intervention
supports,
because
I
think
that's
really
critical,
and-
and
so
I
just
I
put
that
out
there
as
part
of
a
conversation
which
is
so
much
bigger
than
the
one
we're
having
today
and
acknowledging
that
much
of
what's
been
discussed
today,
has
also
been
reflected
in
our
police
act,
review,
submission
to
the
province
and
conversations
that
we've
been
having
around
the
additional
and
ancillary
and
complementary
services
that
are
needed
in
communities
not
just
in
vancouver
but
across
the
province
to
support
neighborhoods
to
support
residents.
F
And
it
was
acknowledged
earlier
that
the
province
is
moving
on
complex
care,
which
is
also
an
area
that
I
think
needs
further
attention.
But
with
respect
to
the
circumstances
we
find
ourselves
in
around
the
determination
made
by
the
province.
I
support
the
provincial
decision.
I
support
us,
including
the
5.7
million
in
the
budget,
to
support
public
safety
in
our
city.
F
It
is
a
core
service.
We
need
to
continue
to
support
that,
but
we
do
need
to
continue
the
dialogue
with
the
higher
levels
of
government
around
both
the
social
services
that
are
necessary
to
support
our
residents,
the
public
health
services
that
are
necessary
to
support
our
residents,
as
we
continue
to
see
on
the
toxic
drug
supply
and
overdoses
in
our
city,
and
so
I
just
these
are
really
really
complex
and
and
and
that's
the
the
dialogue
we
need
to
be.
F
Having
is
how
do
we
advance
those
things
forward
and,
and
it
may
look
different
in
future-
I
think
that
service
delivery
needs
to
be
examined
regularly
when
it
comes
to
whether
it
be
health
care,
whether
it's
public
safety,
whether
it
be
public
education,
we
constantly
need
to
be
looking
at.
Are
we
meeting
the
needs
of
our
residents
or
those
we're
serving,
and
so
welcome
that
ongoing
conversation,
and
I
will
be
supporting
the
staff
recommendations
around
the
5.7
million
for
public
safety.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
A
A
B
I
think
mayors
thanks
for
the
question.
Then
there
is
an
outstanding
question
for
council
regarding
the
funding
source
for
for
that
budget
increase.
So
the
council
has
essentially
the
city's,
been
ordered
to
provide
it,
so
that
decision
would
remain
outstanding.
I
expect
council
would
need
to
deal
with
it
at
in
some
other
at
some
other
time.
Okay,.
A
A
A
A
And
that
has
pass
with
councillor
swanson
and
boyle
in
opposition,
and
now
we're
going
to
vote
on
the
remainder
of
the
motion
or
the
amended
report
c
d
and
e
that
has
been
mailed
to
you,
council
because
it
won't
fit
on
the
screen.
But
oh
the
clerks
are
working
their
formatting
magic
in
live
real
time
there
we
go
okay,
so
c,
d
and
e.
That
is
the
current
vote.
A
A
We
do
have
15
minutes
remaining
until
the
lunch
break.
So
perhaps
we
could
move
to
hear
from
speakers
there's
two
folks
that
are
that
are
on
the
line.
If
that
would
be
okay
with
council,
I
think
I
can
just
do
it
as
long
as
nobody
objects.
So
I
know
that
I
don't
know.
If
folks
are
listening
in
but
clerks
can
we
can
we
unless
the
city
manager
has
anti-introductions
or
anything
for
the
cultural
grants?
No,
I
don't.
A
I
A
Hi
there
you
have
up
to
five
minutes
thanks
for
calling
in
please
go
ahead
whenever
you're
ready.
I
All
right
good
morning,
I'm
esther
rosenberg
artistic
and
executive
director
of
the
eastside
art
society,
and
I
am
opposed
to
the
recommendations
presented
before
I
begin.
I
would
like
to
thank
each
and
every
one
of
you
for
your
ongoing
dedication
and
commitment
to
the
residents,
visitors
and
businesses
of
the
city
of
vancouver.
I
It
is
a
daunting
town
to
manage
a
city
at
the
best
of
times,
even
more
so,
while
traversing
the
many
challenges
of
that
a
pandemic
presents.
So
thank
you.
Okay.
I
will
be
using
the
eastside
arts
society
as
an
example
to
illustrate
some
of
the
flaws
and
shortfalls
with
the
awarding
of
arts
operating
grounds.
I
Getting
back
to
my
reference
on
the
pandemic,
I
have
to
mention
that
if
it
wasn't
for
covet,
I
would
probably
not
be
standing
here.
Well,
I'm
not
standing
here,
but
talking
to
you
here
today
addressing
the
lack
of
support
for
the
eastside
arts
society.
Some
of
you
may
know
it
as
the
culture
crawl
in
2020
when
the
pandemic
hit.
We
had
about
three
months
of
cash
flow
in
hand
if
it
wasn't
for
the
economic
recovery
and
stabilization
funds
that
we
were
able
to
access.
At
that
time,
we
would
have
shuttered
our
doors
in
2020.
I
In
reality,
we
would
not
have
been.
We
would
not
have
seen
the
organization's
25th
year.
A
milestone
this
by
the
way
is
not
due
to
fiscal
mismanagement,
rather
in
spite
of
the
lack
of
substantive
support
from
the
city,
the
east
side,
art
society
and
the
east
side,
culture
crawl
have
never
run
a
deficit.
I
Some
background
over
the
years
council
has
increased
their
overall
arts
and
culture
budget.
This
shows
your
sincere
commitment
to
the
city's
support
of
arts
and
culture.
I
personally
have
always
been
a
strong
advocate
of
this.
I
also
thought
that
at
some
point
our
organization
would
see
some
of
those
increases
trickle
down.
It
has
been
hugely
disappointing
to
see
that
nothing,
not
a
dime
ever
actually
has.
I
have
watched
other
equally
established
organizations
receive
increases
and
many
newer
organizations
have
received
more
than
us
and
their
base
support
is
way
higher
than
ours
after
10
years.
I
I
have
to
ask:
why
is
this
occurring,
who
merits
an
increase
and
is
there
an
objective,
merit-based
rating
system
governing
these
decisions?
I
took
on
managing
this
organization
about
10
years
ago.
At
that
time
we
had
300
some
artists
participating
with
approximately
20
000
attendees.
Our
budget
was
about
seventy
five
thousand.
In
the
year
preceding
the
pandemic,
we
had
a
total
of
five
hundred
plus
artists.
Forty
five
thousand
attendees
and
a
budget
of
about
four
hundred
thousand
the
organization
has
consistently
grown.
It
has
garnered
enormous
support
from
both
artists
and
the
public
alike.
I
We
have
developed
programming
that
complements
a
signature,
open
studio
event
with
a
diverse
programming
that
includes
paying
artist
carfax
fees
to
this
date
annually.
We
curate
exhibits
by
a
bipod
jury
that
pays
carfax
fees
for
80
plus
artists.
We
do
artist
talks
and
workshops
that
are
equally
well
embraced,
that
also
pay
artist,
carfax
fees,
and
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
what
that
is,
it's
a
standard
set
by
visual
arts
organizations
to
compensate
visual
artists
for
any
work
that
they
do.
I
When
we
look
at
community
engagement
in
respect
to
our
organization,
we
have
a
program
called
studio,
101
and
that
provides
free
art
making
workshops
for
school
children
in
our
community.
Many
of
the
marginalized
this
particular
program
has
grown
from
30
students
at
its
inception
to
180
students
in
2021.
I
The
effects
of
this
program
alone
have
been
profound.
We
have
a
community
affiliates
program
that
ensures
community
inclusivity
working
with
organizations
such
as
possibility
the
kettle
union
gospel
mission,
carnegie
center
and
uma
to
name
a
few
to
name
a
few
sorry
as
well.
Over
the
past
two
years,
we
have
partnered
with
a
lodge,
thereby
ensuring
that
indigenous
artists
have
access
to
our
programming
and
its
benefits.
I
We
have
strived
to
provide
a
livable
wage
for
our
three
part-time
staff
and
have
ensured
flexible
working
conditions
for
them.
We
have
a
strong,
deeply
committed
board
who
every
year
rise
to
the
challenges
of
fundraising
for
our
programming,
which
is
a
huge
part
of
our
budget,
separate
from
our
festival.
Programming
in
2021
we
receive
funding
through
the
vancouver
foundation
to
develop
the
east
side,
arts
district.
You
will
be
hearing
more
about
this
later
in
the
year.
I
Despite
the
pandemic,
we
ran
the
festival
both
years
at
great
expense
to
our
team
and
to
our
resources.
We
did
so
in
support
of
the
many
artists,
visual
artists,
a
great
number
who
lost
their
exhibit
presentation,
residencies
and
workshop
opportunities
when
the
pandemic
hit
with
all
of
this.
Apparently,
none
of
what
we
have
achieved
over
this
period
of
time
has
merited
additional
support.
C
Speaker
but
unfortunately,
your
five
minutes
are
up.
If
you
want
to
finish
that
sentence,
and
then
you
have
oh.
I
I
I
would
recommend
the
following
that
a
merit-based
score
card
be
developed
and
implemented
to
determine
increases
in
support
that
organizations
that
wish
to
defend
themselves
in
front
of
their
peers
be
allowed
to
do
so
that
a
review
of
the
past
five
years
is
undertaken
to
look
at
who
received
an
increase,
and
why
that
there
be
a
moratorium
on
the
development
of
new
programs,
so
that
support
can
be
increased
to
existing
organizations
if
there
are
new
policy
directions,
such
as
edi
and
accessibility
audits,
that
funds
be
allocated
to
support
organizations
to
develop
them
and
not
just
expect
them
to
do
so
with
already
limited
resources.
E
Yeah
thanks
esther
and
thanks
for
speaking
to
council,
I
appreciate
you
flagging
this
issue,
the
challenge.
I
guess
I
only
have
three
minutes
so
I'm
just
going
to
frame
up
this
question
for
contacts.
E
The
challenge
that,
by
the
time
these
reports
get
to
council,
is
that
if
amendments
are
made
and
within
the
funding
envelope,
then
that
means
taking
from
one
group
to
another,
and
so
it's
challenging
at
this
point,
I'm
wondering
first,
if
you
could
email
your
recommendation
specifically,
if
you
read
out
to
council,
that
would
be
really
helpful,
but
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
say
if
you've
got
any
sort
of
specific
feedback
as
to
why
I
know
this
is
you've
spoken
at
council
before
on
the
same
issue,
and
it
seems
to
be
continuing
as
to
why
your
organization
for
the
culture
crawl
is
not
being
considered.
E
What
you
feel
is
a
proportional
level
of
funding
to
what
some
other
recipients
are
getting
or
in
the
context
of
the
equity
initiatives
that
you're
undertaking.
Like
what
feedback?
Are
you
getting
a
clear
sense
from
staff
as
to
why.
I
No
most
of
the
feedback
that
I've
gotten
over
the
years
hasn't
been
terribly
meaningful
and
it
hasn't
been
in
depth,
and
I
believe
that
that's
the
case,
because
we
don't
have
some
of
the
things
some
of
the
policies
put
in
place
in
regards
to
process.
Then
I'm
recommending
that
staff
undertake
and
do
that
now,
and
I
understand
that
you
cannot
go
back
in
review.
I
Well,
I
understand
that
you
cannot
make
changes
to
what
has
been
allocated,
but
I
strongly
you
know,
suggest
that
you
send
back
to
staff
that
they
review
what
has
been
put
forth
on
the
merits
of
our
organization
and
what
we
bring
to
the
community
and
artists.
E
Right
now
I
hear
what
you're
saying
and
perhaps
is
an
opportunity,
because
there
are
some
that's
still
unallocated
for
this
year.
So
I
think,
and
that
and
perhaps
helping
facilitate
a
further
dialogue
with
staff
might
be
helpful.
Is
that
something
that
you
would
be
interested
in
if
we
could
try
to
provide
some
greater
clarity
around
that.
E
P
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much,
I'm
really
appreciative
of
coming
and
speaking
and
providing
some.
I
think,
thoughtful
suggestions,
also
how
much
of
the
your
previous
budgets
in
terms
of
rough
percentage,
has
been
the
support
from
the
city.
I
Well,
for
operating
we're
talking,
13
000
from
a
400.
What
is
a
400
000
dollar
that
was
2019?
Our
budget
has
increased
during
the
pandemic
because
of
the
relief
support
so
13
times
4
is,
I
can't
do
the
math
that
quickly
4
times
3
is
12
carry
the
one?
I
Probably
that
can
we
do.
I
can't
sorry,
I
can't
do
the
math
that
quickly
in
my
head,
what
that
percentage
is
so
your.
I
000
and
has
not
gone
up
in
in
ten
years,
and
I
don't
understand
why
we
even
had
settled
at
thirteen
thousand
to
start
off
with,
but
that's
a
whole
other
and.
P
I
P
Me,
what
is
it
that
it?
The
grant
enables
you
to
do
that,
otherwise,
you
would
not
be
able
to
do.
P
I
Me
to
do
yeah.
Well,
our
rent
doubled
this
year,
so
we're
now
at
we
used
to
be
at
twelve
hundred.
So
I
guess
it
could
have
supported
our
rent.
But
now
our
rent
is
2200.
Sorry
2400.
P
Okay
yeah,
I
I
appreciate
the
suggestions
that
you've
you've
made
and
echo
counselor
kirby
young's
point
that
it's
very
hard
at
this
point.
If
we
were
to
increase
or
to
approve
your
grant,
we
would
have
to
take
away
from
someone
else
at
the
same
time
and
that's
it's
difficult
to
do.
I
just
hope
that
you
understand
the
position
that
we
are
in
on
that,
but
have
you
applied
for
other
program
grants
within
the
city.
I
I
have,
and
I
have
received
them
the
the
the
problem
with
that
is.
They
are
project
based
and,
as
you
know,
projects
cost
way
more
than
than
than
what
we're
receiving
so,
for
example,
to
do
our
report,
a
city
without
art,
known
at
laws.
We
received
support
from
cultural
services
infrastructure.
It
was
20
000.
That
report
cost
me
40,
000
plus,
which
meant
I
had
to
go
fundraising
in
order
to
secure
the
funding
to
complete
that
report.
I
So
it
adds
additional
workload
to
what
we're
you
know,
which
removes
ourselves
away
from
our
core
programming.
I'm
I'm
glad
that
we
did
the
report
because
it
has
been
impactful
and
it
was
necessary
because
that
information
didn't
exist.
However,
I
can't
tell
you
what
a
strain
on
our
resources.
It
was
to
undertake
that
so
yeah.
P
C
And
thank
you
council.
Thank
you.
Sorry
to
interrupt.
You
have
one
more
question
but
before
that
council,
I'm
going
to
ask
if
somebody
is
interested
in
moving
a
motion
to
extend
past
noon,
to
hear
from
the
second
speaker
who's
on
the
happy
to
do
that,
counselor
seconded
by
councillor
frye,
all
in
favor,
aye
aye
any
opposed.
C
Okay!
Thank
you,
council
esther.
You
have
another
counselor
on
the
question
queue
and
then
counsel.
We
will
hear
from
the
second
speaker
before
breaking
for
lunch.
Q
Hi
esther,
it's
pete,
hello,
just
curious,
so
obviously
this
isn't
the
first
time
you've
applied
and
you
applied
for
25
000
got
13
000
and
you've
sort
of
consistently
been
underfunded.
Based
on
what
you've
told
us,
I'm
curious
process
wise
have
have
staff,
come
back
to
you
with
explanations,
why
you
didn't
get
the
funding
and
maybe
suggestions
how
you
might
better
position
for
funding
in
the
future.
I
I
So
I
can't
say
I've
gotten
a
folsom
response
and
I
believe
that,
because
there
isn't
a
merit-based
system
that
would
look
at
some
of
the
you
know,
aspects
of
of
of
what
arts
organizations
are
doing
in
a
more
objective
fashion.
That
really,
I
feel
you
know
we
get
a
peer
assessment
and
a
couple
of
comments
which
to
me
doesn't
adequately
represent
what
I
would
say,
an
objective
allocation
of
of
of
funding.
Q
I
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
esther
for
waiting
and
for
sharing
all
of
your
thoughts,
so
articulately
with
us.
Our
second
speaker
is
christopher
gays.
R
Hello
good
morning,
everyone
or
just
just
about
good
afternoon
and
I've
been
watching
and
listening
to
you
all
morning
with
the
difficult
things
you
have
to
do,
counselors
and
it's
fantastic.
What
you
do
and
congratulations
and
thank
you
from
me
and
the
citizens
of
the
city
I
want
to.
Thank
you,
my
the
only
reason
for
my
call
is
to
respectfully
thank
you
for
the
funding
that
you
have
given
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
R
During
all
these
challenges
and
difficulties
of
the
co-vid
barton,
the
beach
was
the
recipient
of
that
and
he
is
this
kind
of
leaning
into
the
cultural
arts
organizations
in
the
city
and
the
respect
you've
given
them
is
exemplary.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
and
for
everything
you
do,
culturally,
with
the
support
that
you
give
to
so
many
organizations
are
listening
to
the
previous
speaker.
I
know
there
are
frustrations.
R
There
are
frustrations
for
all
of
us,
but
nevertheless
everyone
from
the
bard
board
and
my
exec
executive
director,
claire
sakaki
and
myself.
We
thank
you.
So
much
bart
is
coming
back
this
year,
they're
building
it
as
I
speak
in
the
pouring
rain,
but
nevertheless
it
is
being
built,
and
this
summer,
from
june
to
september
there
will
be
a
robust
bard
in
the
beach
season.
Back
again,
since
2019
there's
been
an
empty
space
there,
but
please
go
and
have
your
lunch
now
and
thank
you
all
for
everything
you
do
for
our
city.
C
Thank
you
so
much
and
you
actually
have
questions
from
counselor
car.
Are
you
on
the
list
to
ask
questions.
P
Thanks
very
much,
I'm
actually
on
the
list
to
just
say
I'd
love,
to
hear
your
voice
christopher
and
thank
you
what
what
you
have
done
in
building
a
a
cultural,
well,
a
culture
in
vancouver
that
appreciates
the
great
masters
and
in
theater
and
plays,
and
it's
always
such
a
pleasure,
I'm
so
happy
to
hear
bart-
is
coming
back
this
this
summer
and
yeah.
Just
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
call
in
to
us.
C
That
was
not
a
question,
but
I
had
the
same
reaction
so
I'm
letting
it
fly.
Thank
you
so
much
for
phoning
in
christopher
and
council.
Those
are
all
of
our
speakers.
We
extended
to
finish
hearing
from
speakers.
We
will
come
back
after
lunch
and
in
camera
at
three
o'clock
and
have
a
presentation
from
staff
at
that
time
and
then
move
into
discussion
on
this
item
and
the
rest
of
our
agenda.
C
Yes,
yes,
we'll
hear
from
staff
we'll
have
time
for
questions
to
staff
and
then
we'll
vote
on
this
item,
starting
after
three
o'clock
so
lunchtime,.
C
Okay,
thank
you
and
that's
where
I'm
just
scrolling
through
where
we
are.
B
Page
six,
but
the
user
council
varied
the
order,
so.
C
Okay,
great
so
counsel,
to
my
understanding
we
might
have
a
few
opening
slides
from
staff
and
then
we
will
move
to
questions
from
staff.
Can
I
get
a
confirmation
from
the
city
manager
or
sandra
singh
about
opening
comments
or
slides.
L
L
As
you
know,
every
year
city
of
vancouver
invests
close
to
14
million
in
essential
grants
to
local
arts
and
culture
nonprofit
organizations
through
various
grant
streams,
and
that
through
these
grants,
we
support
operations,
projects
access
to
civic,
theaters
and
capacity
building
initiatives
for
the
sector.
These
investments
are
guided
by
the
key
goals
and
directions
set
out
in
the
city's
tenure,
council-approved,
arts
and
culture
plan.
Culture
shift
blanketing
the
city
in
arts
and
culture,
which
was
unanimously
adopted
by
council
on
september,
10
2019.
L
The
process
that
the
community
adjudication
committee
goes
through
is
a
structured,
criteria-based
assessment
process
that
does
involve
scoring
and
group
analysis
results
and
committee
discussion.
It's
common
across
the
cultural
sector,
for
example
the
canada
culture
for
the
arts
and
here
even
locally.
The
vancouver
foundation
follows
similar
processes
in
terms
of
allocating
their
limited
grant
funds.
As
council
knows,
requests
for
funding
always
exceeds
the
available
resources
and
the
committee
reviews
requests
and
recommends
grant
levels
that
reflect
how
well
groups
meet
program,
objectives
and
criteria.
L
L
The
assessment
committee
worked
with
a
small
increase
of
0.6
in
the
operating
budget
this
year,
as
well
as
one-time
funds
of
300
000.
As
well
as
some
rebalancing
and
shifting
within
the
various
grant
streams
and
some
one-time
project
funds,
this
year,
149
groups
requested
a
total
of
10.4
million
dollars
with
recommendations
in
this
report.
Totaling
8.7,
so
approximately
84
percent
of
the
total
requested
amount.
L
I
want
to
just
recognize
that
it's
an
extraordinarily
difficult
job
of
a
committee
to
to
make
recommendations
like
this,
especially
when
the
hopes
and
aspirations
of
a
sector
are
are
resting
on
the
decisions
that
you
make.
At
the
same
time,
having
been
on
the
other
side
of
the
granting
process,
I
also
know
how
hard
it
is
to
not
receive
grants
that
you've
requested
I've
been
in
that
situation
many
times
before
in
the
public
library
applying
for
grants
through
various
programs.
L
Ultimately,
though,
the
recommendations
in
this
report
continue
to
advance
the
city's
goal
of
contributing
to
equitable,
diverse
and
vibrant
communities
that
amplify
the
voices
of
creative
people
and
allow
the
full
range
of
vancouver
public
to
see
themselves
truly
reflected
in
the
stories
of
these
lands.
I
think
we're
proud
of
the
recommendations
that
the
committees
are
are
bringing
forward
and
and
hope
for
council's
endorsement.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Council
now
is
the
time
for
questions,
and
I
see
there's
a
few
members
on
the
list.
So
we'll
start
with
counselor
fry
counselor
fry
up
to
five
minutes.
Thanks.
Q
Chair
and
thanks
sandra
so
just
reflecting
on
some
of
the
the
comments
regarding
the
eastside
culture,
crawl
and
the
arts
district
and
stuff,
and
and
and
and
I'm
just
curious,
how
we're
articulating,
especially
with
the
culture
shift
and
there's
some
kind
of
changing
criteria
and
and
how
much
so
folks
can
learn
how
the
point
system
works,
for
instance,
and
how
maybe
priorities
have
shifted,
and
do
we
offer
that
kind
of
exit
conversation
for
for
grant
folks,
if
they're
curious
how
they
can
score
better,
maybe
or
or
what
have
you
yeah.
L
O
Thank
you
sandra
thanks.
Everyone
hi,
I'm
cheryl
masters.
I
head
up
the
granston
awards
team
with
within
cultural
services.
Thank
you
for
these
questions.
So
we
each
year,
so
we
paused
the
grant
the
full
assessment
process
for
two
years,
as
sandra
mentioned,
for
to
help
the
recovery
of
the
grantees
throughout
the
pandemic,
and
so
we
went
into
full
assessment
this
year,
but
we've
been
integrating
sort
of
aligning
with
our
new
culture
shift
priorities
in
a
phased
approach.
O
So,
each
year
when
we
went
our
last
full
assessment
in
2020,
we
published
all
the
changes
that
were
taking
place
in
in
the
program
criteria
and
the
questions
and
laid
that
out
explicitly
in
the
program
information
guide.
We
make
ourselves
available
to
the
applicants
for
any
questions
and
help
them
through
make
the
make
the
best
proposal
forward.
O
We
also
publish
the
correct
the
assessment
criteria,
specifically
the
scoring
and
how
it
works
in
the
process
and
how
committee
members
are
selected
from
the
community,
so
that's
all
very
public
and
what
we
feel
is
very
transparent,
and
so
after
the
assessment
is
done.
If
we
make
ourselves
available
for
anyone
who
has
questions
about
the
process
and
about
the
recommendation-
and
we
share
some
of
the
results
back
where
we
have
some
clear
committee
comments
and
directions
to
feedback
to
to
groups,
sometimes
it's
it's
a
status
quo
recommendation.
O
There's
not
a
lot
of
input
to
give
back
to
the
committee.
It
was
they
might
have
scored
average
or
they
might
have
scored
a
little
bit
lower
than
others.
And
so
there
isn't
always
their
specific.
It's
just
a
competitive
process
and
then
others
scored
higher
and
are
advancing.
Culture
shift
priorities
a
little
bit
better.
But
when
asked
for
those
specific
comments
and
when
we
have
good
comments
to
to
to
report
back,
we
will
absolutely
meet
with
groups
and
discuss
that
with
them.
O
We
can't
possibly
draft
and
articulate
that
for
everyone,
but
we
are
absolutely
where
we
can
be
ready
for
a
meeting
and
and
relay
those
comments
back
to
them.
As
requested.
Q
Thanks
earl,
I
appreciate
the
clarification
and
very
thorough,
I'm
just
curious,
also
just
following
up
on
that.
How
much
does
so
if
we're
waiting
the
sort
of
criteria
versus
the
committee?
Q
O
Yes,
I
can
so
how
we
do
so.
We
invite
peer
assessment
members,
members
of
the
community
that
can
self-nominate
or
nominate
others.
They
review
applications
individually.
They
do
a
preliminary
ranking
and
score
against.
We
have
five
broad
areas
where
we
look
at
so
artistic
purpose:
the
contributions,
the
community
impact
leadership
and
administration,
as
well
as
financial
management.
O
So
they
go
through
each
of
these
sections,
based
on
the
questions
that
we've
asked
the
applicant
and
they
score
accordingly,
so
their
individual
scores
are
very
preliminary,
then
we
come
together
and
we
meet
in
person
or
virtually
as
a
committee,
and
we
have
a
discussion,
a
robust
discussion
about
each
application
and
scores
and
opinions
can
change
once
everyone
has.
A
full
sub
has
a
benefit
of
listening
to
to
the
peers
in
the
committee,
and
so
we
come
up
with
a
final
recommendation,
for
that
group
did.
Is
that
does
that
answer
your
question.
Q
That
does
and
thank
you
appreciate
the
work
that
goes
into
this.
I
know
it.
It's
got
to
be
tough,
so
I
really
do
appreciate
it
and
thank
for
the
answer.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
Counselor
kirby
young
you're
up
next.
E
Great,
I
have
a
short
mic
and
not
a
longer
one
says
you
want
to
check
yeah
counselor.
I
really
touched
on
the
heart
of
my
questions,
which
I
appreciate
with
respect
to
culture
crawl.
So
I'll
just
ask
one
quick
follow-up,
and
that
was
with
respect.
I
know
you
said,
there's
a
lot
of
applicants
and
it's
difficult
to
get
back
to
each
one
individually,
but
in
the
event
there
is
a
specific
situation
like
this
one
has
arisen
further.
E
The
questions
that
I
had
asked
of
the
speaker
is
there
an
opportunity
for
staff
to
review
in
this
particular
case
and
provide
some
feedback
and
guidance.
L
Yes,
absolutely
we
can,
we
will
follow
up.
I
believe
that
that
there
have
been
some
conversations
with
us
here
already,
but
we'll
follow
up
again
following
following
this
meeting.
H
L
Historically,
the
grants
budget
for
our
grants
have
increased
at
an
inflationary
rate
of
about
two
percent
per
year.
The
last
couple
of
years.
It's
been
slightly
less
right
than
the
two
percent,
although
we
did
receive
a
one-time
boost
for
culture
shift
last
year,
but
I
can
certainly
follow
up
with
a
detailed
chart
on
the
progression
of
the
grand
spot.
H
I'm
just
really
trying
to
get
us
a
sense
of
it
are
we
keeping
in
line
incrementally?
Are
we
are
we
seeing
you
know?
Large
increases
is
really
what
I'm
getting
at
yeah.
This
is
a
fairly
recent
area
overall
in
the
city's
history
for
us
to
get
into,
and
so
I'm
just
really
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
of
how
that
progression
has
taken
place.
Yeah.
L
It's
typically
been
a
that
modest
kind
of
two
percent
per
year,
but
I
will
follow
up
with
you
with
a
more
detailed
kind
of
multi-year
comparison.
It.
G
Yes,
so
looking
at
the
capital
grants
and
recognizing
there's
significant
capital
can
support
some
of
these
arts
organizations.
How
did
this
process
align
with
some
of
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done
with
the
capital
project?
Recognizing
some
of
these
didn't
get
as
much
funding,
but
there's
also
a
large
capital
ass
to
some
of
these
organizations.
O
So
I'm
more
involved
in
the
operating
budget
side
of
things.
I
have
my
colleagues
in
the
spaces
that
that
are
looking
at
capital
investments.
So
specifically,
are
you?
Are
you
asking
about
process
or.
G
Yeah,
no
I'm
looking.
I've
obviously
got
a
list
in
front
of
me.
It
talks
about
cultural
infrastructure,
grants,
cultural
space
funding
and
land
trust
grants,
renewal
grants,
partnerships
for
chinatown
and
other
upgrades
to
different
arts
and
cultural
facilities,
including
cultural
facilities,
capital
maintenance.
So
there's
a
lot
of
unfunded
things
that
deal
with
the
capital,
so
it'd
be
interesting
to
know
how
these
two
kind
of
support.
L
So
all
of
our
capital
granting
comes
through
the
capital
plan.
So
that's
where
all
the
small
infrastructure
grants,
like
the
more
modest
kind
of
you,
know,
30
50,
60
000
grants
to
the
larger
to
the
larger
grants.
Those
all
come
through
through
the
capital
plan
cheryl.
Can
you
speak
to
how
you
stay
connected
with
the
cultural
spaces
team
in
terms
of
the
the
the
aspirations
of
our
of
various
space
operators.
O
Definitely
we
share
a
lot
of
operating
grantees
grantees
in
particular,
that
are,
you
know,
aspiring
to
build
their
own
space
or
vying
for
community
amenities
spaces.
So
we
stay
in.
You
know
regular
contact
with
with
understanding
sort
of
the
needs
of
the
community,
and
if
there
is
someone
requiring
space
or
looking
to
build
space
or
going
into
become
a
space
operator,
how,
through
our
granting
program,
we
will
help
with
the
operations
of
of
their
you
know
of
the
provision
of
that
space.
So
it's
pretty
ongoing.
We
work
quite
closely
with
them.
G
Okay
and
from
the
the
applicants
do
they
find
it
easier
from
your
understanding
to
apply
for
grants
for
capital
or
for
operations
when
they're,
looking
at
federal,
provincial
other
types
of
forms
of
fundraising,
so
looking
at
the
two
different
types
of
grants
to
support
our
culture
vancouver,
what
is
the
biggest
need
from
city
standpoint
to
support
these
organizations?
Is
it
more
the
capital
stuff
or
the
operation
stuff
they're?
Looking
more
for.
L
I
would
I
would
suggest
that
both
operating
and
capital
are
necessary
for
organizations
cheryl.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
speak
to
the
operating,
but
both
operating
and
capital
leverage,
senior
government
funding
so
in
terms
of
operations
and
capital.
So,
for
example,
on
a
on
a
on
a
theater
renovation,
you
will
bring
some
funding
to
the
table.
Most
organizations
they'll
lean
into
heritage,
canada
grants
there
might
be
something
coming
from
the
province
as
well,
and
often
private
philanthropy
as
well
on
the
capital
side
and
then
cheryl.
O
Yeah,
absolutely
it's
it's
very
similar,
although
I'd
say
the
capital
funding
is
a
lot
more
complex
and
very
long
term
and
sometimes
takes
years
with
the
operating
budget
most
of
our
operating
grantees
leverage.
They
have
federal
support,
they
have
provincial
support,
they
have
regional
support
and
a
lot
of
funding
coming
through
private
donations
and
corporate
and
they
self-generate
their
own
revenue
as
well.
So
very
similar.
C
Thank
you,
councillor,
weeb,
council.
Those
are
the
end
of
the
questions
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
mover
in
a
moment.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
asked
so
I'm
going
to
ask
it
again
if
any
member
wishes
to
declare
a
conflict
of
interest
on
this
item.
C
We
altered
the
order
a
bit,
so
just
naming
that
again
would
someone
like
to
move
a
motion?
Don't
move
this
report?
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councillor
kirby
young
and
a
seconder
second
council
bligh
councillor
bly.
Thank
you
very
much,
I'm
just
looking
at
the
speaker
queue,
but
seeing
no
speakers
I'll
ask
the
clerk
to
move
us
to
a
vote.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
running
a
good
ship
there.
Let's
see
now
we're
on
to
bylaws,
so
we
have
10
bylaws
on
the
agenda
for
enactment
just
know,
council
that
biola
11
was
withdrawn.
A
Council
members
who
were
not
present
for
the
meetings
related
to
public
hearings
must
confirm
that
they
have
reviewed
the
proceedings
if
they
wish
to
vote
by
law
force
from
the
public
hearing
of
june
17th
counselors
deja
novan
hardwick
were
absent
from
this
item.
Counselor
dejanova
have
you
reviewed
the
package
and
will
you
be
voting.
A
You
councilor
hardwick.
Thank
you.
Anybody
wish
to
hold
a
any
of
these
for
debate
or
conflict
of
interest.
Counselor.
H
I've
put
sorry,
I
put
number
six
and
seven
on
four
separate
vote.
B
I
was
just
going
to
offer
to
move,
I
suppose,
one
to
five
and
eight
to
eleven,
and
then
we
could
vote
separately
on
six
and
seven
mayor.
A
Just
eleven
spin
with
jerome.
A
Councillor
hardwick,
which
which
two
did
you
win
again:
six
and
seven
councillor
herbert
okay?
So
let's
do
six
and
seven
first.
L
A
Okay,
six
and
seven
are
already
held
four
four
and
five
we'll
do
as
a
separate
vote
after
this
one,
so
we're
gonna
vote
on
bylaws,
six
and
seven
first,
all
in
favor
of
oh
anita,
mover
and
a
seconder.
A
A
There
we
go
that's
passed
with
councillor
hardwick
and
swanson
in
opposition
councillor
swanson
wants
to
hold
four
and
five,
so
we'll
have
a
separate
vote
on
bylaws
four
and
five
I'll
call.
The
vote
now
move.
A
B
A
A
Oh,
we
can
do
yes
and
a's.
I
guess
all
in
favor
gay
opposed
name,
don't
hear
any
that's
passed
unanimously,
thanks!
So
much.
Okay,
we're
moving
to
the
administrative
motions.
One
administrative
motion
on
the
agenda:
that's
the
form
of
development
on
2924
venable
street.
Any
conflict
of
interest.
Here,
don't
hear
any
questions,
the
staff.
I
have
you
on
the
cube
concert
agenda.
You
have
questions.
Okay,
thank
you.
Somebody
like
to
move
this
place
anyway.
Thank
you,
councillor,
carr
seconder,
answer
weeb.
Thank
you
any
discussion.
A
I
don't
see
anybody
in
the
queue
so
we'll
do
yays
and
nays
all
in
favor
yay
opposing
that's
past.
Thank
you
very
much.
Now
we're
on
to
council
members
motions
eight
council
member
motions
on
the
agenda
today
at
3.
20.
first
is
request:
release
of
absence,
a
counselor
bly
for
personal
reasons,
april
14th
from
6
p.m,
onwards.
A
A
Great
thanks
very
much
motion
number
two
to
which
we
have
speakers
is,
is
asking
for
change
the
vancouver
charter
to
allow
the
city
to
levy
a
progressive
property
tax
moved
by
councilor,
swanson
and
counselor.
You
have
up
to
two
minutes
to
introduce
your
motion.
J
J
If
the
city
could
get
the
ability
to
tax
people
with
lots
of
property
wealth
at
higher
rate
than
people
who
don't
have
a
lot
of
property
wealth,
we
could,
in
my
dreams,
use
that
money
to
build
enough
housing
to
virtually
end
homelessness,
and
we
could
do
other
things
with
it.
That's
what
the
second
part
of
the
motion
is
about.
Could
we
tax
people
who
own
several
properties
at
a
higher
rate
than
those
who
just
own
one?
J
J
I've
heard
that
some
folks
are
leery
of
this,
because
they
don't
want
to
have
to
layer
on
another
tax
on
people
who
are
already
hit
by
the
provincial
so-called
school
tax
which
kicks
in
on
properties
over
3
million,
but
think
about
this.
The
feds
have
a
progressive
income
tax.
The
province
didn't
hold
back
from
adding
progressive
income
tax
provincially
just
because
the
feds
have
won.
They
layered
it
on
property
holding
is
one
of
the
biggest
forms
of
wealth
and
inequality
in
the
city.
J
B
J
B
Okay,
so
it's
you're
not
jumping
to
conclusions
you're,
just
looking
at
a
report
back
yep.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
The
the
modeling
that
we
did
exempted
rentals
thanks.
A
Thank
you,
councillor,
carr,
up
to
a
minute.
P
Yes,
thanks
very
much
councilor
swanson.
Have
you
investigated
the
difficulty
related
to
the
return
of
such
extra
revenues
to
the
city?
I'm
thinking
specifically
around
the
fact
that
the
school
tax,
which
was
anticipated
by
people
extra
school
levy,
would
would
come
back
to
the
city.
It
has
not.
So
have
you
investigated
that.
J
P
Right,
but
is
there
a
system
in
which
you've
looked
at
that
actually
returns
the
money
of
an
extra
tax
which
is
collected
by
the
province
to
return
it
back
to
the
city?
Is
that
your
intention.
J
A
You
councillor
kirby
young
up
to
a
minute.
E
Yeah
thanks
so
council
swanson,
you
don't
want
to
get
the
information
back
from
staff
first
before
asking
the
province
around
the
impacts
of
this,
and
I'm
thinking
about
consequences
like
highest
and
best
use
on
small
commercial
retail
properties
on
multi-unit
on
affordable
rental,
because
your
language
and
your
motion
doesn't
specify
categories.
It
only
says
based
on
value.
J
I
think
if
we
get,
we
should
ask
for
it,
because
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
have
the
ability
to
levy
a
fair
or
a
progressive
tax
and
as
the
same
time
we've
asked
for
it.
We
can
figure
out
some
options
and
we
can
present
them
and
use
them
to
push
our
argument
that
we
need
a
progressive
tax.
E
J
A
Let's
get
that's
a
minute
cancer
dominato
up
to
a
minute.
F
A
That's
it
for
oh
councillor,
frye
up
for
a
minute.
Q
Yeah
thanks
counselors,
so
you're
proposing
building
hundreds
of
units
a
year
off
this
tax.
Have
you
talked
to
the
ministry
of
finance?
Are
they
interested
in
this
at
all,
as
as
far
as
offsetting
their
burden
to
and
their
responsibility
to
build
housing.
J
Yeah
we
have
problems
with
other
levels
of
government
that
whenever
we
try
to
do
something,
they
reduce
their
contribution
but
we're
in
a
dire
situation,
and
we
desperately
need
housing,
especially
for
people
who
are
homeless
and
lower
income
rentals,
and
we
desperately
need
financing
for
other
stuff
and
we
desperately
need
a
fair
way
of
getting
it.
And
I
think
that's
what
this
is
are.
J
B
Thank
you
just
counselor
swanson.
I
wonder
if
you
could
clarify,
is
it
your
intent
to
move
policies
that
redistribute
wealth
to
the
point
where
every
person
has
the
exact
same
share
of
wealth.
J
J
So
I
haven't
thought
about
what
a
threshold
is.
I've
thought
that
if
you
have
a
lot
of
wealth
and
you
can
defer
your
tax
of
home
wealth
or
property
wealth
and
you
can
defer
your
taxes,
but
that
would
be
a
fair
place
for
the
city
which
needs
a
lot
of
revenue
for
housing
and
for
other
things,
to
try
to
get
it
rather
than
upping
passwords
for
everybody.
A
You
we
have
speakers
tomorrow,
so
someone
like
to
refer
this
to
tomorrow's
standing
committee.
A
Speakers,
the
counselor
nova
beat
you
to
it
councilor
swanson,
but
you
can
second
and
all
in
favor,
yay,
yay,
great
okay,
thanks
so
much
that
is
referred
to
tomorrow.
Motion
three
was
dropped
and
now
we're
on
to
motion
four,
the
2022
civic
election
ballot
question
to
measure
vancouver
electoral
support
or
the
2030
winter
olympic
bid,
and
I'm
just
going
to
clear
the
queue
here:
councilor
hardwick
and
then
you
have
up
to
two
minutes
to
make
your
case
go
ahead.
H
H
H
Another
consideration
is
the
fact
that
the
international
olympic
committee
looks
favorably
on
bids
that
have
demonstrated
community
support.
So
why
would
we
not
have
an
open
and
democratic
process?
Given
all
these
considerations
notwithstanding,
it
would
be
good
to
know
what
the
impact
of
the
2010
olympics
were.
How
do
we
do
financially,
but
we
don't
know
yet,
because
the
books
are
embargoed
at
the
archives
until
2025,
but
that's
another
story
fast
forward.
H
H
So
it
has
been
alleged
by
the
mayor
that
this
motion
violates
the
mou.
It
does
not
paragraph
five
of
the
mou
reads
and
as
follows.
This
mou
imposes
no
legally
binding
obligation
on
any
of
the
parties.
Staff
have
acknowledged
this
after.
I
asked
why
there
had
been
no
such
indication
in
the
staff
input
on
member
motions.
H
E
Yeah
thanks
mayor,
I
have
one-
and
I
know
that
I've
heard
you
say
that
that
legally
the
mou
between
mst
and
the
city
to
explore
the
benefits
or
feasibility
of
holiday
games,
it
doesn't
require
asking
them
with
respect
to
a
plebiscite,
but
in
the
spirit
of
partnership.
I
wonder
why,
wouldn't
you
have
asked
them?
First
for
their
input
before
bringing
the
motion.
H
Like
any
mou
and
I've
in
business,
I've
been
party
to
mousse
each
one
of
those
parties
has
an
internal
responsibility
to
their
shareholders,
members
and
constituents.
So
I
wouldn't
expect
the
first
nations
to
be
coming
and
asking
us
whether
it
was
okay
if
they
had
a
referenda
for
example.
So
it's
again
it's
conflating
two
different
things:
it's
outside
the
scope.
Furthermore,
there
is
no
structural
relationship
in
place
where
we,
when
I
put
this
motion
forward
to
staff,
they
didn't
come
and
say:
oh,
you
should
go
and
talk
to
first
nations
about
this.
H
A
B
Thanks
so
much
counselor
hardwick,
I'm
I'm
just
wondering
counselor
kirby
young
asked
one
of
my
questions.
I'm
going
to
ask
you:
do
you
know
how
much
the
nations
have
currently
invested
before
it
was
a
city,
but
how
how
much
in
dollars
they've
invested
in
moving
this
forward,
the
work
that
they've
been
doing
and
if
that
were
to
stop
all
of
the
sudden
who
would
who
would
be
picking
up
the
tab
for
that?
Would
you
expect
them
to
absorb
it?.
H
I
have
no
idea,
nor
would
I
expect
to
have
any
control
over
what
the
other
parties
of
the
mou
are
undertaking.
I
would
only
expect
that
the
city
of
vancouver
and
again
the
the
people
that
we
represent
would
be.
We
would
be
aware
of
the
cost
that
we
would
be
incurring
and
we
would
be
responsible
to
our
electorate
to
determine
our
path
very.
B
H
I
I
it
certainly
costs
a
significant
amount
every
year
for
the
city
to
be
sending
out.
You
know
in
in
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars.
Again
I
pointed
out
that
the
plebiscite
in
2003
cost
over
half
a
million
dollars.
Thank.
A
You
councillor
bly
up
to
a
minute.
B
Thank
you
mayor.
I
just
wonder
council
hardwick,
if
you
can
confirm,
are
you
aware
that
any
documentation,
accounting
filings
things
like
that
related
to
the
vancouver
olympic
committee
are
accessible
to
the
public?
Currently,
as
of
today,.
B
Yes,
you're
referencing
in
earlier
in
your
comments
that
these
that
documentation
is
not
available.
In
fact,
I
believe
that
documentation
is
available.
H
Foreign
manager
actually
was
the
person
that
that
had
that
happen.
B
I
think
we
need
to
fact
check
that
related
to
vancouver
olympic
committee.
All
of
that
information
is
available
currently
to
the
public.
H
Well
then,
I
I
would
challenge
that
and
and
we'll
make
that
available
when
we
bring
this
into
debate.
P
Yes,
thanks
mayor
council
hardrick,
I
want
to
pursue
again
the
issue
of
whether
or
not
you
have
formally
asked
the
especially
the
host
nations,
the
lillawatt
squamish
slaywoodtooth
and
musqueam
nations,
who
are
in
the
lead
on
this
bid.
If
they
support
such
a
referendum,.
H
Can
you
suggest
a
counselor
car,
how
I
would
do
that?
What
structural
relationship
would
there
be?
Who
would
I
talk
to
what
would
the
lines
of
communication
be
if
indeed,
that
was
was
appropriate?
But
again
I
put
this
motion
in
for
count
firs
for
assessment
by
staff.
At
no
time
did
anyone
come
back
and
suggest
that
from
staff?
H
For
starters,
point
number
one
point
number
two:
there
is
no
structure
in
place
whereby
we
would
go
to
first
nations
leadership
if
I
knew
who
specifically
could
be
making
those
judgments,
but
my
point
in
particular
is
that
it's
up
to
us,
as
a
member
of
the
mou,
to
be
responsible
to
our
elect
electorate.
That's
what
this
is
about.
A
Thank
you.
That's
it
for
questions
from
council
calling
for
for
a
seconder.
A
Once
twice
three
times
no
seconder,
so
thank
you
very
much
council
we're
going
to
move
to
item
five
motion.
Five
is
a
lock
it
or
lose
it
improve,
secure
bike
infrastructure,
improving
secure
bike
infrastructure
in
the
city
of
vancouver.
This
motion
is
to
be
moved
by
councillor
frye,
so
cancer
fry
I'm
going
to
put
you
on
the
list
and
you
have
up
to
two
minutes
yeah
thanks
mayor.
A
This
is
largely
inspired
by
circumstances
that
I
found
myself
in
and
in
speaking,
to
other
cyclists
across
the
city,
who
have
sounded
the
alarm
about
the
imminent
removal
of
parking
meters
in
the
city
of
vancouver.
We
have
about
5500
parking
meters
right
now
in
the
city
of
vancouver.
We
have
earlier
agreed
to
remove
them
all
and
replace
them
with
digital
kiosks.
A
A
With
a
lack
of
secure
bike,
locking
infrastructure,
we
only
have
about
2
500
public
bike
racks
right
now
in
the
city
of
vancouver,
which
is
pretty
low
for
a
city
that
prides
itself
on
being
a
very
cycling
friendly
city
back
in
2009,
the
vancouver
public
space
network
were
warning
about
a
the
loss
of
parking
meters
and
b
the
dearth
of
parking
lock-up
facilities
in
the
city
of
vancouver
and
in
discussing
with
our
staff
the
case
of
missing
parking
meters.
A
It
turns
out
that
we
don't
really
have
a
comprehensive
strategy
around
installing
public
bike,
lock
infrastructure,
there's
a
lot
of
confusion
around
locations
and
spacing
from
sidewalks
and
roads
and
safety
considerations
and
best
practices
in
engineering,
and
there
is
no
real,
comprehensive
strategy
to
improve
upon
our
pretty
lowly
amount
of
bike
infrastructure.
So
that
is
the
intention
with
this
is
to
really
kick
start
this
conversation
and
make
it
a
priority.
A
Also,
recognizing
that
these
new
digital
lock-up
kiosks
are
going
to
be
significant
revenue,
generators
for
the
city
of
vancouver,
and
given
that
we
are
going
to
be
losing
this
critical
bike,
locking
infrastructure
on
our
commercial
high
streets,
it
might
be
a
great
opportunity
just
to
leverage
some
of
that
new
revenue
from
the
digital
kiosks
to
explore
that.
A
Thank
you.
I
don't
see
any
questions
for
you,
but
second
counselor
kirby
young.
We
have
a
seconder
okay,
thank
you!
So
much
and
movement
kirby
young.
I
heard
first
and
right
we
have
speakers
on
this.
We
have
a
move
left.
Thank
you
hear
it
tomorrow,
counselor
deja
nova,
seconder,
council
car.
Thank
you
so
much
and
all
those
in
favor,
yay,
yay.
A
Let's
move
to
tomorrow.
Thank
you
motion.
Six
is
the
free
parking
and
other
measures
to
address
public
safety
and
the
revitalization
of
chinatown
councillor
dejanova.
You
have
up
to
two
minutes
whenever
you're
ready.
Thank
you
I'll
I'll,
be
brief,
but
I'll
say
that
chinatown
is
struggling
and
we
have
seen
a
wave
of
anti-asian
hate
hate,
can't
wait
and
there
were
three
attempted
arsons.
A
Last
week
alone
yesterday
there
was
a
tragic
fire,
although
we
don't
know
the
cause
and
have
all
of
the
details
of
that
yet,
and
I
hope
council
will
support
my
motion
and
give
chinatown
a
little
support.
I
understand
the
motion
won't
solve
all
of
the
challenges
or
problems
in
chinatown,
but
this
motion
and
the
actions
in
it
are
a
small
gesture
and
chinatown
needs
our
help
and
I'll
leave
it
there
for
now
mayor.
Thank
you.
I
don't
see
any
questions
for
you
so
hope,
counselor
boyle
up
to
a
minute.
A
Yes
thanks,
I
had
a
couple
questions
and
one
is
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
speak
to
the
anticipated
impact
to
the
budget
and
how
you
suggest
that
we
manage
that.
Well,
I
think
that
it's
important.
I
know
that
there
are
speakers
that
are
signed
up
to
speak
tomorrow.
A
I
think
that
there
may
be
some
some
ideas
and
thoughts
from
speakers,
but
again,
I
think
that
we
have
to
look
at
how
we're
working
to
help
chinatown
and,
as
I've
been
very
clear
in
the
motion
that
you
know,
I'm
I
don't
send
staff
out
in
the
budget
to
specifically
take
money
from
other
areas.
It
would
be
looking
at
a
reallocation.
We've
done
that
several
times
here,
this
term.
A
Okay,
sorry,
I'm
only
a
minute,
so
just
clarifying
no
specific
plan
for
how
we
what
we
would
reallocate
to
to
fund
this,
potentially
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
in
we
already
have
millions
of
dollars
that
are
dedicated
specifically
to
chinatown
and
revitalization.
So
I
would
hope
we
could
find
the
money
within
that
budget
counselor
boyle.
Thank
you
thanks.
A
I
don't
see
anybody
else
on
the
queue
do
you
have
us.
Did
I
get
a
second
or
counselor
second
seconded
happy
to
move
the
referral
for
speakers
tomorrow,
mayor
great
thanks,
seconder.
Thank
you,
cancer
dominato!
Thank
you
all
in
favor,
yay
oppose,
nay
thanks,
emotion,
number,
seven,
supporting
the
innovation
economy,
councilor
weave,
I'm
just
going
to
clear
the
queue
here.
Put
you
on.
Please
go
ahead
up
to
two
minutes
yeah.
This
is
really
exciting.
This
city
is
coming
out
of
covet
and
is
coming
out
with
a
bang.
A
When
it
comes
to
innovation,
it's
been
pretty
amazing
to
go
to
events
around
the
city
and
see
the
amount
of
innovation
that
is
growing
the
city,
the
amount
of
unicorns,
the
city's,
creating
the
amount
of
new
jobs
in
tech.
We
continue
to
see
on
a
daily
basis,
almost
every
other
day,
we're
seeing
another
organization
grow
and
continue
to
provide
employment,
and
not
only
that
but
able
to
change
the
planet
in
a
way.
A
A
And
what
I'm
asking
for
here
is
that
we
asked
the
vancouver
economic
commission
to
provide
high
level
overview
on
what
is
going
on
in
the
innovation
ecosystem
here,
in
vancouver
examples
of
these
organizations,
the
jobs
and
investment
and
the
strengths
that
we
see,
and
also
the
opportunities
for
us
as
a
city,
to
better
support
the
innovation
economy.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
don't
see
any
questions
for
you.
Second,
I
heard
council
occur
first,
we
have
a
seconder
all
we
have
a.
We
have
speakers
of
this
item,
so
we
have
a
mover.
Thank
you.
Councillor,
digenova
mover
second
counselor
card.
Thank
you
all
in
favor,
yay,
hey,
hey
great,
that's
past!
Two.
I
think
this
is
this.
A
Is
the
last
one
yeah
unless
the
last
emotion
is
the
enabling
and
recover
recovery
community
center
in
the
city
of
vancouver
a
counselor
blize
up
for
up
to
two
minutes
whenever
you're
ready
I'll
start
your
timer
thanks
very
much
mayor.
So
this
motion
is
asking
council
to
support
vancouver
coastal
health
and
delivering
a
recovery
center.
A
A
recovery
community
center,
which
is
a
is
a
service.
That's
currently
missing
in
the
continuum
of
care
and
has
been
on
the
work
plan
for
vancouver
coastal
health
for
a
very
long
time.
A
So
the
the
ask
is,
within
our
capacity
of
zoning,
permitting
and
partnership
real
estate
services
that
we
continue
working
with
and
doing
everything
we
can
to
enable
this
center
in
opening-
and
I
think
a
second
part
is
is
to
illuminate
the
recovery
center
model
is
part
of
a
conversation
that
we
could
be
having
at
council
around,
in
addition
to
safe
supply
harm
reduction,
what
we
can
be
doing
to
support
recovery
services
to
balance
the
ways
in
which
we
are
working
with
partners
and
stakeholders
to
deal
with
the
very
serious
poisoned
drug
crisis
that
the
the
city
is
grappling
with
and
the
region
is
grappling
with
right
now.
A
A
That's
responsing!
Oh
sorry,
can
you
confirm
that
this
is
just
for
abstinence-based
treatment,
the
the
model
itself,
the
intent
is
that
people
who
have
a
desire,
so
it's
about
agency.
So
if
people
have
a
desire
to
stop
using
drugs,
we
what
this
model
would
do
is
provide
an
on-demand,
literally
a
door
for
them
to
walk
through
to
seek
that
kind
of
help,
but
they
do
not
need
to
be.
They
do
not
have
to
abstain
in
order
to
access
the
services.
A
A
Could
you
maybe
just
describe
what
it
would
be
like
what
what
would
happen
at
this
place,
how
it
would
be
set
up
well
without
getting
into
the
details.
We
do
have
speakers
tomorrow
that
are
directly
from
vancouver
coastal
health.
The
goal
here
is
to
provide
an
on-demand
sorry
house
response,
and
I
don't
have
enough
time
to
explain
all
of
that.
Thank
you,
councillor,
kirby
yeah,
thanks.
Thanks
for
the
motion,
counselor
bligh,
I
just
have
one
clarification
question
and
that's
on
a
and
the
language
potential
use
and
or
access
to
appropriate
city-owned
sites.
A
A
No,
we
vancouver
coastal
health
is
prepared
to
lease
a
space
they're
looking
for
the
best
space,
both
in
the
the
private
sort
of
real
estate
market,
as
well
as
any
available
public
publicly
owned
buildings
like
the
city
of
vancouver,
but
we
there
would
be
no
dollar
there'd,
be
no
commitment
of
funds
from
the
city
of
vancouver
at
this
stage.
A
Okay,
super.
Thank
you
answer,
boyle
thanks.
My
question
is
similar
just
trying
to
understand
the
city's
role,
so
this
would
be
a
health
facility,
and
so
the
city
would
have
a
role
in
in
speeding
up
permitting
of
it
in
order
to
see
it
come
about,
but
not
a
financial
commitment
or
not
providing
city
space
in
kind
or
or
something
along.
Those
similar
answer
to
council
kirby
young's
question.
A
If
I
understand
your
question
correctly
to
be
of
similar
nature,
there
is
not
that
monetary
commitment
coming
from
the
city
of
vancouver
it's
really
to
help
enable
this
particular
center
to
open
as
quick
as
as
we
could
possibly
can,
okay,
and
by
helping
to
enable,
I
guess
I'm
just
it's
about
largely
about
permitting
and
licensing
to
allow
that
type
of
space
to
operate
in
whatever
space
they
find.
That's
right,
okay,
really
helpful.
Thank
you.
Chancellor
frye
yeah
thanks
councillor
black
for
bringing
this
forward
just
to
get
some
clarification.
A
This
is
the
sort
of
model
that
we
see
in
seattle
with
the
recovery
cafe
and
the
kind
of
stuff
that
street
to
home
has
been
advocating
for,
and
it's
different
from
a
rehab
center
right,
very
different
from
a
rehab
center.
There
are
no
beds
provided
per
se,
but
the
difference
here
with
what
we
see
right
now
with
the
recovery
cafe,
is
folks
have
to
be
abstinent
from
any
substance
use
for
48
hours
before
they
can
access
that
program,
and
this
is
distinctly
different
from
that.
A
Absolutely
there's
a
number
of
programs
we'll
go
through
with
more
time
to.
You
know,
in
the
event
that
this
gets
moved
to
tomorrow,
to
hear
from
speakers
where
we
can
articulate
and
better
understand
those
questions
about
all
of
the
different
services
that
would
be
provided
in
such
a
center.
Great
thanks,
councillor
bligh,
I
have
a
I'm
just
wondering.
Is
this
a
formal
request
for
vancouver
coastal
health
for
us
to
do
something.
A
A
A
Okay,
so
there's
no
medical
health
services
delivered
on
this
site,
there'll
be
programming,
so,
for
example,
there's
there
there
could
be
meetings
around
aaa.
There
could
be
meetings
around
n
a
there
could
be
various
types
of
recovery
conversations.
There
could
be
meetings
of
families
who
are
dealing
with
their
children
who
are
struggling
with
substance,
use,
disorder,
mental
health
and
addiction
services.
Generally
speaking,
it's
not
a
formal
request
for
vancouver
coastal
health.
For
us
to
do
this.
A
I
I
your
the
word
formal
seems
sort
of
it
seems
subjective.
So
I'm
going
to
refrain
from
the
answering
I'm
out
of
time
but
happy
to
take
that
offline
until
it's
appropriate
I'll
ask
dr
penny:
bellum
counselor
dejanova
thanks
counselor
bligh.
I
was
wondering
back
late
last
year
in
a
motion.
A
I
brought
forward
on
looking
at
complex
care
issues,
including
mental
health
and
addiction
council,
approved
that
resolution
and
added
to
it,
and
in
fact
it
looked
at
models
like
redfish
healing
center
that
were
outside
of
vancouver
that
were
chosen
for
the
reason
that
they're
outside
of
vancouver.
Do
you
see
this
to
be
different
or
the
same
as
that,
because
it
looked
at
working
with
the
provincial
government
and
vancouver
coastal
health
on
things
like
that?
So
is
it
the
same
thing
or
is
it
something
different?
A
Is
this
motion
the
same
or
different
to
your
motion
that
you
moved?
Is
that
the
question
I'm
just
wondering
is
the
resolution
asking
for
something
different
than
that
motion
asked
for?
I
believe
it
is
okay.
Thank
you
very
much
for
answering
that
question.
Also
just
wanted
to
know
is
accessing
the
safe
supply.
Is
that
sending
people
to
places
where
they
can
get
safe
supply?
That's
right!
We're
at
the
minute.
Okay,
counselor
weep!
A
Yeah!
You
talked
about
this
facility.
Can
you
talk
about
who's
behind
the
creation
of
the
programming
for
this
facility,
vancouver
coastal
health?
Okay?
So
vancouver
coast
health
has
created
the
parameters
for
what
the
framework
would
be
for
this
facility
for
this
particular
model.
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
That's
it
for
questions.
Do
we
have
a
second
year
for
this?
A
I
heard
council
kirby
young,
that
we
have.
We
have
speakers
to
this,
so
somebody
can
refer
this.
I
think
I
heard
counselor
weeb
counselor
counselor
dominato.
Second,
thank
you.
So
much
we'll
hear
this
tomorrow
and
council.
Now
we're
on
to
notice
of
council
members
motions
anybody
close
on
the
queue.
A
Okay,
I'm
just
gonna
go
quickly.
I've
got
one
that
I'm
introducing.
This
is
for
the
april
26
meeting.
It's
called
increasing
the
empty
homes
tax
to
five
percent
and
improving
compliance.
A
You
counselor
fry
yeah.
I
have
two
motions
on
notice
for
april
26th.
The
first
is
supporting
false
creek,
south
campus
of
care
co-submitted
with
councilor
hardwick,
and
the
second
is
catalyzing
planning
for
the
future
of
central
waterfront
district
co-submitted
with
council
dominato.
A
A
That's
it
for
new
members
motions
answer:
boyle
do
you
have
I
have
an
item
of
new
business
that
I
circulated
to
council.
A
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
there's
no
emotions,
and
so
now
I
am
moving
to
new
business
counselor
boyle
thanks.
I
s
circulated
to
cancel
a
new
business
request
for
a
leave
of
absence
for
myself
for
personal
reasons,
from
meetings
on
april
14th
from
6
pm,
so
move
our
backhand
wait,
have
a
move
or
a
second
or
on
that
one.
A
Second,
all
in
favor
yay.
Thank
you
any
opposed
past
council
kirby.
Are
we
still
new
business
or
can
I
do
it
in
question
business
inquires
or
right
after
so?
Okay?
So
I
want
a
new
business
I'll
wait
for
inquiry
thanks.
Okay,
I
have
some
new
business
two
items
that
I've
circulated.
The
first
is
a
request
for
a
leave
of
absence.
That's
outlined
in
the
email
that
was
sent.
A
That's
may
2nd
from
6
p.m.
To
to
the
end,
for
personal
business
may
13th
9
30
to
1
pm
for
civic
business
and
may
7th.
So
I
guess
counselor
counsel
is
okay,
a
second
all
in
favor
of
that
repeat,
please
may
12th
6pm
onward,
may
13th
from
9
30
to
1
and
may
13th
from
7
pm
to
the
end.
A
All
in
favor
I
will
have
to
see
the
chair
to
counselor
boyle
for
this
next
piece
of
new
business,
which
is
ready.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
So
this
morning
we
I
attempted
to
put
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
into
a
graffiti
abatement
and
with
councillor
weeb's
edition
beautification
of
different
neighborhoods.
I
think,
in
light
of
the
horrendous
fire
that
we
had
in
the
middle
of
gas
town,
I
think
these
things
are
very
needed,
so
I'd
be
asking
if
council
will
support
this
motion.
A
Second,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
We
have
a
mover
and
a
seconder
and
the
number
of
names
on
the
list
which
clerk
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
move
to
a
separate
queue
for
this
new
business
motion,
but
otherwise
I'll
go
through
the
names,
as
I
see
them
and
counsel.
If
you're
on
the
list
to
come
back
for
other
new
business,
you
can,
let
me
know
so.
First
up
is
councillor.
Kirby
young
chair,
isn't
it
appropriate
to
just
move
to
a
new
queue
with
the
motion?
A
Is
that
usually
a
procedure?
Yes,
I
am
working
from
home,
so
yeah,
okay,
great,
thank
you
for
that
counselor
swanson.
Your
name
is
on
the
list
for
this
motion.
Yeah.
I
wonder
if
through
you,
I
could
ask
the
mayor
what
abatement
means
could
that
include
supporting
people
who
give
who
do
graffiti
to
give
them
a
place,
and
maybe
some
paints,
so
they
could
do
it
in
this
in
a
place
that
wasn't
a
problem
thanks
for
the
question
counselor
swanson.
A
The
idea
here
is
to
use
our
regular
channels
to
to
provide
this,
provide
this
money
and
the
addition
by
councillor
web
this
morning,
which
I've
added
back
in,
could
indeed
qualify
for
that
if
the
local
business
improvement
agencies
and
regular
city
departments,
you
know
decide
that,
but
I
didn't
want
to
direct
this
more
than
than
I
have
in
this
in
this
motion.
A
So
the
we
got
this
very
moving
email
from
the
groups
that
did
the
mural,
that
was
defaced
and
they
were
had
a
bunch
of
great
suggestions
about
how
to
work
with
people
that
do
graffiti
in
a
positive
way.
A
Okay,
the
certainty
I
can
give
you
is
the
city
manager
is
here
listening
to
this,
and
as
these
funds
flow
through
the
management
team,
I'm
sure
those
instructions
will
be
given
informally.
A
Okay,
thanks,
thank
you.
Counselor
swanson,
counselor
fry
you're
up
next,
but
before
I
move
to
you,
I
just
want
to
clarify.
I
I
heard
a
seconder
and
the
clerks
missed.
The
name
was
this:
it
was
seconded
by
councillor
duterte,
okay,
great,
thank
you
for
that.
Counselor
fry!
You
are
up
there.
A
And
we're
in
sorry
not
questions
but
debates
so
points
of
information,
but
otherwise
debates
and
comments
on
the
motion
on
the
floor.
Yeah,
great
and
and
I'm
appreciative
of
this
and
yeah,
and
I
think
it
does
recognize
some
pretty
significant
issues
that
we're
facing
within
some
of
our
more
historic
neighborhoods.
In
particular.
A
I'm
curious,
though
jermaine
to
this
and
and
the
the
the
letter
that
councillor
swanson
had
referenced.
I'm
wondering
if
I
could
ask
a
question
chair
through
you
of
the
city
manager
referencing
the
motion
that
counselor
dominato
and
I
put
forward
in
may
of
last
year
and
and
directed
and
was
approved
by
council
to
direct
staff
to
explore,
sanctioned
graffiti
areas
that
could
actually
serve
as
kind
of
a
an
attraction
and
I'm
wondering
where
that
is.
A
A
Thanks,
I'm
eric
through
you
and
unfortunately
to
counselor
fry's
question.
I
don't
have
the
update
on
the
status
of
that
particular
piece
of
work.
I
could
certainly
get
an
update
on
that.
I
know
that
staff
did
a
lot
of
work
to
allocate
work
with
the
bis
to
allocate
the
grant
funds
for
for
graffiti
abatement.
But
in
terms
of
that
additional
element
that
was
referenced
in
the
motion,
I
would
have
to
follow
up
with
staff
on
that.
A
Thanks
for
that
city
manager,
I'm
I'm.
I
don't
want
to
add
an
amendment
on
this,
because
it
is
new
business
and
it's
timely,
and
but
I
do
hope
that
that
that
this
is
being
heard
by
appropriate
staff
and
that
we're
going
to
be
revisiting
that
direction
that
council
gave
last
year
about
sanctioned
graffiti
areas
and
how
that
might
factor
in
and
support
this
work.
A
Thanks
to
the
mayor
for
putting
this
forward,
I
support
thank
you.
Counselor
frey,
counselor,
swanson
you're
back
on
the
list.
A
Sorry,
that's
a
holdover
okay,
councillor,
deejanova
you're
up
next
thanks
just
a
point
of
information
through
you,
chair
to
the
mayor.
A
Yes,
go
ahead,
mayor
stewart,
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
in
beautification
grants
that
that
could
actually
could
that
be
considered,
a
bia
could
decide
to
designate
a
wall
for
kind
of
art
as
long
as
it
was
not
offensive
and
met,
sort
of
the
terms
and
conditions
of
that
previous
motion
wondering
what
your
intent
there
was
sure.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
I
do
like
the
decentralizing
of
control
of
these
funds
to
the
bias,
because
they're
so
in
touch
with
the
local
community
and
especially
in
these
neighborhoods
that
have
been
so
hard
hit.
I
mean
just
in
gas
town
last
night.
If
you
look
at
the
repair
of
the
square
and
the
and
the
hotel
like
this
is
definitely
needed
for
local
businesses
and
for
tourists.
A
So
so
I
do
think
that
you
know
there's
enough
flexibility
in
this
wording
that
those
money
could
be
disposed
in
in
whatever
ways
they
see
fit
along
these
broad
guidelines.
Okay,
thanks
so
much
that
answers
my
question.
A
Thank
you
and
counselor
kirby
young
you're
up
next
yeah
thanks.
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
a
point
of
clarification
through
the
chair
to
the
mover.
If
I
could
yes
go
ahead
thanks
and
mayor,
I
recalling,
when
we
had
the
previous
motion
direction,
that
I
thought
it
specified
that
the
fund's
very
explicitly
would
go
to
the
bias
and
this
one
doesn't
so
I'm
wondering
if
that
is
needed,
or
why
you
would
assume
that
they
would
go
there,
because
otherwise
does
this
potentially
leave
room
for
other
groups?
A
That
council
may
not
intend
to
receive
funds,
because
I
don't
see
language
that
sort
of
specifically
identifies
that.
The
intention
would
be
that
it
go
to
bias
and
use
that
mechanism
to
disburse
the
funds.
Can
you
comment
on
that?
Thanks
very
much
for
the
question.
I
left
the
discretion
to
the
city
manager.
I
mean
who's
more
experienced
than
this
team.
A
We
do
these
grants
all
the
time,
and
so,
of
course
I
imagine
most
of
this
money
will
go
to
bias,
but
there
is
an
opportunity
for
I
just
think
I
I
you
know
talk
to
the
embers
group.
The
other
day,
I
thought
there
may
be
an
opportunity,
for
you
know
local
hirings
and
those
types
of
things,
but
again
with
this
money.
A
I
think
we've
had
a
lot
of
success
for
the
with
the
other
emergency
money
that
we
brought
in
through
covet
19
and
I'd
like
to
leave
it
to
the
discretion
of
the
of
the
management
team.
With
these
broad
guidelines
for
what
these
are
used
for,
so
I
don't
think
any
language
is
required
because
it
is,
it
is
implied,
especially
that
the
neighborhoods
are
are
named
and
the
usual
way
this
money
flows
is
through
bias.
A
Okay,
if
I
could
ask
a
follow-up
question
chair
through
you
to
staff
to
the
city
manager,
if
I
could
go
ahead,
yeah
thanks
and
that
is
the
city
manager,
then
for
someone
to
be
a
recipient
of
these
funds,
it's
fair
to
say
that
if
it
was
the
social
purpose,
organizations
like
eastside
works,
embers.
A
Sorry,
I'm
having
a
mental
blank
on
the
names
of
the
others,
just
at
the
moment
or
bias.
They
would
have
to
be
a
group
that
has
kind
of
been
vetted
by
the
city
previously,
if
you
will
to
receive
the
funds
and
it
would
be
and
that
staff
would
view
those
sort
of
social
purpose-
employment
obas-
to
be
the
primary
opportunities
here.
A
Thanks
for
the
question
through
the
chair,
so
I
think,
first
of
all
to
clarify
that
these
are
all
grants,
so
they'll
come
back
to
council
for
approval
staff,
cannot
grant
money,
so
council
will
see
and
approve
all
of
these
grants
individually
to
the
organizations
that
they're
going
to
generally
to
the
question
yeah
and
understand
the
purpose
that
council
is
looking
at
here.
A
Obviously
this
is
broader
than
graffiti,
so
we
would
be
looking
with
staff
about
where
the
you
know,
which
organizations
might
fulfill
what
we
understand
to
be
the
intent
of
this
motion,
but
the
the
final
check
on
that
will
be
council.
Okay,
so
follow
up
on
that
because
it
says
to
come
back
in
2022
and
you're
saying
it's
grants
they
need
to
come
back.
Could
would
it
come
back
faster
given
to
the
mayor's
comments
and
I
share
them.
A
The
community
is
really
suffering
and
needs
immediate
relief
if
we
directed
that
they
go
through
bias
through
an
established
mechanism.
Would
that
speed
it
up
to
provide
more
immediate
relief
or
are
we
looking
at
potentially
say
the
fall
before
we
come
back
with
grants
to
council
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
what's
the
most
expeditious
route
here
to
get
the
help
out
into
the
community?
Yeah
council's
still
gonna
have
to
approve
the
grants,
so
I
mean
I
I
think
again.
We
understand
the
time.
Sensitivity
and
we'd
be
looking
at
to
distribute
it.
A
This
in
in
the
most
expeditious
manner
possible
as
well.
So
you
know
that
would
be
part
of
the
criteria
that
we'd
be
looking
at
and
figuring
out
what
to
do.
Obviously,
we
have.
We
have
a
program
that
we
rolled
out
once
already.
This
is
broader
in
terms
of
what
the
intent
is.
So
I
would
just
need
to.
A
I
mean
we're
just
seeing
this
now,
so
I
would
have
to
consult
with
staff
on
whether
there's
there
is
any
other
organizations
we
might
want
to
include
in
that,
but
certainly
understand
the
intent
to
get
this
money
out
as
quickly
as
we
could.
That's
we'd
be
working
to
that.
Okay
and
then
last
follow-up.
Point
on
that
quick
question
then,
can
could
counsel
expect
to
get
that
back
in
sort
of
may
june.
A
Definitely
before
we
break
or
would
would
staff
aim
for
that
without
any
additional
direction,
or
would
that
require
additional
direction
from
council
yeah?
I
mean
we
would
certainly
want
to
get
this
back
to
council
before
you
wrap
up
prior
to
the
election,
because
otherwise
it
would
be
october
so
yeah
that
would
be
the
timeline
that
we'd
be
working
too.
A
So
we
might
not
see
it
before
july,
we'll
do
it
as
quickly
as
we
can.
I
mean
the
staff
that
are
managing
this
particular
program
have
a
lot
of
other
work
that
they're
dealing
with
as
well,
including
permits-
and
you
know,
patio
permits
and
other
things.
But
we
would
we
understand
the
urgency
of
this,
so
we
would
look
to
bring
it
back
as
quickly
as
we
could.
Okay,
that's
really
helpful.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
And
that
passes
with
no
counselors
in
opposition.
Thank
you,
council
and
I
will
hand
the
chair
back
to
you
mayor
stewart
thanks
very
much
counselor
just
wait.
One
second.
A
Yes,
okay,
good,
okay,
cancel.
I
did
miss
some
new
business
items
which
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
and
I'm
just
looking
at
the
queue
these
were
on
prior
and
I'm
sorry
I
missed
them.
These
are
leaves
of
absence
counselor
fry
from
meetings
on
may
18th
to
20th
for
civic
business,
counselor
bly
for
meetings
on
april
22nd
from
1
to
2,
30
p.m.
For
personal
reasons
me
for
meetings
on
april,
12th,
6
p.m.
Personal
reasons
did
we
just
pass
that
one?
A
I
think
we
did
I'll
just
read
it
again
april,
12th
from
6
p.m,
april,
13th
from
9
to
1
and
seven
pm
to
ten
pm
pacific
business.
Those
are
all
somebody
like
to
move
this
motion.
Please
thank
you.
I
think
I
moved
it
already,
but
we
have
a
seconder.
A
Thank
you
all
in
favor
yay,
any
opposed.
Does
it
pass
thanks?
So
much
council
kirby
young
under
I'm
just
checking,
we
don't
have
any
new
business,
so
I
think
we're
on
to
inquiries
and
other
matters,
councilor
kirby,
young
inquiries
and
other
matters.
Yeah
thanks.
A
I
do
have
an
inquiry
and
it's
related
to
the
devastating
fire
that
took
place
yesterday
on
abbott
street,
and
I
know
that
there
was
an
update
provided
earlier
today
and
and
I'm
appreciative
of-
and
this
is
a
question
directed
to
the
city
manager,
appreciative
of
all
the
efforts
to
be
undertaken
to
support
people
in
sort
of
the
89
rooms
with
respects
to
transitional
housing
and
all
that.
A
But
I'm
wondering
if
council
can
get
some
information
back
on
any
options
that
we
have
to
also
support
the
half
dozen
businesses,
like
the
flying
pig,
bruce
eyewear,
et
cetera
that
have
essentially
lost
their
space
and
livelihood,
whether
that's
making
available
temporary
city
space
or
any
other
mechanisms
of
support,
as
well
as
the
businesses
that
are
still
in
operation,
but
are
may
potentially
be
impacted
for
a
period
of
time.
A
Given
the
area
that's
having
to
be
cordoned
off,
given
the
instability
of
the
building,
in
fact,
it
has
to
be
torn
down.
So
I'm
just
wondering
from
a
city
perspective.
Is
there
anything
that
we
can
do
to
provide
support
to
those
small
businesses?
And
I
welcome
any
information
now
and
certainly
any
further,
follow
up
sure
thanks
counselor,
so
our
staff
have
been
in
touch
and
will
remain
in
touch
with
the
bia
regarding
those
businesses,
I'm
not
certain
at
this
point.
What
the
status
of
their
insurance
is.
A
We
I
understand
that
some
many
hopefully
are
insured,
so
that
would
be
the
first
place,
presumably
that
they
would
be
looking
in
terms
of
recovering
any
losses,
but
we'll
continue
to
work
with
bi
around
that
and
and
happy
to
follow
up
with
council
once
we
know
have
a
bit
more
information
about
that.
Another
piece
around
the
businesses
that
were
not
in
the
building
that
was
damaged
but
are
impacted
by
the
closure.
A
So
they're
on
abbott
street,
but
across
the
street
our
chief
building
official,
is
working
to.
He
has
now
issued
an
order
for
demolition
of
the
building
and
we'll
be
looking
to
execute
that
as
quickly
as
we
can
in
order
that
we
can
reopen
the
street
and
those
businesses
can
get
back
get
back
in
business.
A
Okay,
if
we
could
get
a
follow-up
with
some
more
detail
about
that,
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful.
People
are
obviously,
understandably
pretty
anxious
and
feeling
pretty
overwhelmed
right
now.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
super.
Thank
you.
A
A
So
thanks
counselor,
so
the
tax
rates
final
tax
rates
will
come
back
to
council
for
approval.
So
at
that
point
in
time
when
that
decision
is
made,
that's
the
point
at
which
we
would
confirm
that
definitively
for
the
public.
So
there
would
be
communication
that
we
would
issue
at
that
time
and
when,
what's
the
timeline
for
that
to
come
back
to
council,
I
have
to
confirm
my
recollection:
is
it's
in
may?
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
My
second
one
is
recognizing
the
significant
climate-related
civic
infrastructure
issues
we're
having
here
in
the
city
of
vancouver,
I'm
wondering
what
federal
funding
we're
looking
at
or
what
other
funds
we'll
be.
Looking
at
recognizing
seawall,
kids
pool
some
of
our
roads
and
some
of
the
significant
damage
we're
seeing
with
climate-related
weather
issues,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
what
is
our
plan
moving
forward
recognizing?
A
We
already
have
a
very
tight
capital
budget
process
and
we've
got
some
significant
new
projects
because
of
some
of
the
climate-related
issues
we're
seeing
here
in
the
city
of
vancouver
already
yeah,
so
we
will
be
looking
at
that
issue.
We
certainly
track
all
the
federal
and
provincial
funding
programs
really
closely
the
there
are.
A
At
this
point,
it's
not
clear
the
extent
of
funding
we
may
be
able
to
recruit
through
that
those
those
channels.
I
would
say,
based
on
what
I
understand,
is
available
now
we're
certainly
not
going
to
cover
all
of
those
costs,
at
least
in
the
short
term.
But
your
point
is
very
well
taken.
It's
something
that
we'll
be
continuing
to
watch,
certainly
over
the
next
four
years.
We
don't.
We
don't
anticipate
those
funds
in
our
capital
plan,
but
you
know,
as
they
become
available.
A
It
allows
us
to
add
either
add
projects
to
the
capital
plan
or
offset
funds
that
were
already
in
the
plan.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
how
we
treat
federal
funding
or
provincial
funding
opportunities.
It's
it's.
I
mean,
as
you
know,
it's
a
significant
issue
for
us
now.
You
know,
even
just
with
the
storm
damage
from
this
winter,
we're
looking
at
some
very,
very
expensive
repairs
and
then,
of
course,
the
risk
of
those
that
kind
of
damage
reoccurring
in
the
future
is
is
high
as
well.
A
So
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
continuing
pressure
for
us
and
one
that,
in
the
past
you
know
is
not,
I
would
say,
is
not
one
that
we
had
adequately
recognized.
So
we'll
also
continue
to
advocate
from
a
program
design
perspective
that
the
the
senior
governments
allocate
more
funding
into
those
type
of
investments.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
last
one.
I
was
at
the
trans.
Canada
trail
30
year
anniversary,
and
they
talked
about
that
they're
going
to
be
redoing
the
signage
in
the
city
of
vancouver,
because
they
changed
it
to
the
great
trail
they're
going
back
to
the
trans-canada
trail
and
they
wanted
to
align
with
the
blueway
and
other
greenway
infrastructure.
A
So
I'm
wondering:
has
the
city
had
an
opportunity
to
work
with
the
trail,
recognizing
that
it
goes
along
our
beautiful
sea
wall
and
around
stanley
park
and
the
key
issues
to
aligning
that
with
our
greenway
refresh
yeah
thanks
counselor,
I
hadn't
heard
that
I'm
not
familiar
with
with
that
particular
initiative.
So
I'm
happy
to
follow
up
the
staff
and
get
you
an
update
on
that.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much
now
surprise
yeah.
I
was
originally
actually
on
the
queue
for
new
business,
but
I
think
this
can
squeeze
in
under
other
business
or
other
matters.
A
I
just
wanted
to
update
council.
On
april
1st,
I
chaired
the
second
vancouver
school
board,
city
of
vancouver,
joint
planning
and
facilities.
Commission
committee.
A
I
was
attended
by
trustees,
fraser
and
gonzalez
and
wong
joined
by
staff
from
both
organizations,
including
the
city
manager
and
counselors,
car
and
bly,
and
just
some
of
the
highlights
that
we
discussed
included
talking
about
how
we
could
work
together
to
identify
initiatives
and
advocacy
for
some
of
our
aligned
climate
emergency
planning
goals
around
safe
and
green
schools,
how
we
could
upgrade
school
buildings
and
improve
air
quality
and
how
some
of
that
might
work.
A
We
could
actually
take
and
continue
to
advocate
at
lmlga
and
ubcm
as
forest
fires
and
the
like
have
really
compromised
a
lot
of
the
the
air
quality
for
a
lot
of
students
across
our
province
as
well
is
synchronizing
capital
planning
and
big
moves
like
broadway
plan
to
ensure
that
we're
getting
right,
we're
right-sizing
the
current
and
future
school
capacity
to
family
size,
housing
and
purpose-built,
rentals
that
are
anticipated.
A
We
talked
about
vulnerable,
vulnerable
youth,
housing
and
potential
locations
on
school
sites.
We
talked
about
the
olympic
village
school
and
strathcona
elementary
d
building,
and
we
talked
about
food
security
and
food
gardens
on
school
sites.
The
next
meeting
will
be
july
13th,
but
I
just
wanted
to
reflect
everybody.
It
was
a
really
productive,
cross-pollination
between
our
organizations.
A
Thank
you.
So
much
councillor
proud,
counselor,
deja
nova
thanks.
It's
now
appropriate
time
for
inquiries,
I've
heard
others
absolutely
inquiries.
So
much,
and
this
is
through
the
chair
of
the
city
manager.
A
But
if
you
is
it
possible
to
send
that
to
council
a
breakdown
since
2017
and
and
for
for
each
year,
if
possible,
sure
yeah
I'll
I'll
fail
that
test
right
now
in
person,
but
we
can
definitely
get
that
information.
I
I
wasn't
expecting
you
to
say
that
in
order
to
go
through
it
in
person
now
I
I
do
understand,
though,
from
from
what
I
could
find
it
was
about
2.3
million.
A
So
I'm
looking
for
sort
of
a
breakdown
of
that
and
then
another
question
that
I
had
is
regarding
street
lighting
in
the
city
of
vancouver.
Do
we
often
see
specific
groups
bias
required
to
raise
funds
to
pay
for
that,
noting
the
2014
council
report?
That
shows
that
a
third
of
the
upgrades
to
the
street
lighting
for
leds
and
previous
dragon
lamps
were
actually
paid
for
by
the
vancouver
chinatown
merchants
association
fundraising
campaign.
A
So
I'm
just
wondering
how
often
do
we
see
sort
of
that
come
forward
where
it's
a
private
organization
paying
for
a
third
or
a
certain
amount?
Do
they
get
fast-tracked
if
they
do
that?
What
is
the
reason
again
not
expecting
you
to
answer
on
the
spot,
but
if
could
council
get
some
more
information
on
the
benchmarks
for
that?
Certainly
yeah
so
you're
speaking
counselor,
just
so
I'm
clear
on
kind
of
decorative
lighting,
not
our
standard
street
lights,
decorative
lighting
and
I
understand
replacing
the
leds
in
2014.
A
A
third
of
the
cost
was
covered
by
the
by
a
fundraising
campaign
by
that
organization:
okay,
so
either
upgrading
the
lighting
or
decorative
lighting.
Great
thanks,
I
think
the
in
terms
of
our
standard
street
lights
that
we
use
for
traffic,
pedestrian
safety,
those
are
being
upgraded
to
leds.
Now
we
have
a
program.
A
That's!
Okay!
Yes,
thank
you.
Last
week
of
the
intergovernmental
panel
on
climate
change
issues,
I
can
report,
which
is
a
pretty
dire
warning
to
political
decision
makers
at
all
levels.
A
I'm
wondering
if
I
could
ask
the
city
manager
if
there
would
be
an
ability
for
staff
to
provide
a
summary,
especially
on
the
section
that
is
very
specific,
specifically
focused
on
cities
and
what
cities
can
do
around
climate
action
if
a
summary
of
that
could
be
provided
to
council
and
maybe
a
link
to
the
report
so
that
all
council's
aware
yeah
thanks
councillor
car
staff
are
working
on
that
presently,
along
with
a
summary
of
the
federal
climate
plan
that
came
out
roughly
the
same
time,
so
that
information
you'll
be
seeing
shortly
excellent.
A
Thank
you!
That's
it
for
me,
mayor
thanks.
That
seems
to
be
it
for
inquiries
and
other
matters
so
motion
to
adjourn.
Please
counselor
harvick
seconded
by
councillor
dejanova,
all
in
favor
of
adjourning
yay,
okay
opposed,
nay,
we
are
jared
counsel,
so
enjoy
your
extra
40
minutes
of
fun
and
then
and
then
dinner,
and
then
there's
a
public
hearing
this
evening.
So
thanks
so
much
everybody
staff
and
works
participants.