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From YouTube: Council Meeting - February 14, 2023
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A
A
A
Just
kidding
had
to
do
that
all
right,
I'm.
The
reason
why
we're
late
here
so
I
apologize
good
morning,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
Vancouver
City
council
meeting
for
Tuesday
February,
the
14th
2023.
Happy
Valentine's
Day
everyone.
You
guys
hear
me
yeah,
okay,
good.
This
council
meeting
is
being
convened
by
electronic
means
as
authorized
under
part
14
of
the
procedure.
Bylaw,
the
city
of
Vancouver
electronic
meetings,
as
such
council
members
and
the
public
May
participate
in
person
or
by
electronic
means.
A
If
a
council
member
attending
by
electronic
means
loses
connection
during
the
voting
process,
team
members
are
available
to
get
you
back
online
quickly.
While
the
voting
process
is
suspended.
The
team
members
contact
information
has
been
circulated
to
you.
A
video
of
council
members,
speaking
presentations
and
vote
results
will
be
projected
on
the
live
stream.
When
available
council
members
are
reminded
that,
in
accordance
with
section
14.13
of
the
procedure
by
law,
members
must
enable
their
video
to
confirm
quorum
in
case
of
an
emergency
where
you
need
to
where
we
need
to
evacuate.
The
building.
A
I
would
like
to
direct
your
attention
to
the
exits.
There
are
two
exits:
beyond
the
glass
doors
there
you
go
kind
of
like
an
airport
or
an
airplane
and
to
the
left
if
the
class.
So
basically
you
you
go
through
the
glass
doors
and
then
you,
you
hang
a
left
past
the
post.
If
the
glass
doors
are
obstructed.
Please
direct
your
attention
to
the
four
exits
in
this
chamber.
So
the
four
doors
here
and
please
use
the
stairs,
do
not
use
the
elevator
and
be
incredibly
calm.
A
We
will
all
make
it
out.
Welcome
wood
I.
A
Oh
I
would
also
like
to
highlight
that
if
there
that
there
is
a
defibrillator
located
at
the
end
of
the
hallway
outside
of
the
council
chamber,
so
to
the
very
back
of
the
room,
there
I'd
also
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
that
we
are
hosting
today's
Council
session
on
the
unseated
territories
of
the
Squamish
musque
women's
tooth
First,
Nations
and
I
do
want
to
thank
them
for
their
generosity
and
their
hospitality
and
the
love
and
the
care
that
they
share
or
they
show
our
land,
and
you
know,
I
I
would
like
to
remind
people
or
highlight
the
fact
that
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
we
need
to
unlearn
and
relearn
and
I
would
encourage
you
to.
A
You
know,
jump
on
that
Journey.
Now
today
it's
a
little
somber,
it
does
Mark
the
32nd
annual
Women's
Memorial
March
Community
will
gather
on
the
downtown
east
side
to
March
together
stopping
at
locations
where
missing
women
were
last
seen
or
found.
A
City
Hall
is
flying
a
combination
of
indigenous
flags
at
12th
and
Canby,
including
the
missing
and
murdered
indigenous
woman,
woman
and
girls
flag
for
the
week
of
February
13th
through
20th
or
sorry
13th
through
17th
to
honor
this
occasion
and
once
again,
I
do
want
to
highlight
you
know
the
individuals
that
went
missing
we
have
to.
A
You
know,
hopefully
remember
that
everyone
was
someone's
sister
or
daughter
or
friend
we're
talking
about
a
very
at-risk
vulnerable
population,
and,
let's
not
forget
that
we
still
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
you
know
to
protect
people
who
need
it.
A
I
also
want
to
take
a
moment
to
recognize
the
immense
contributions
of
our
city
team
here
and
they
work
incredibly
hard
and
super
proud,
and
just
that
in
awe
of
everything
that
our
team
does
and
I
I
feel
very
fortunate
that
we
get
to
work
side
by
side
now
with
each
other.
Okay
clerk.
May
we
please
have
a
roll
call
Mayor.
B
B
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
any
comments
on
agenda
items
can
be
sent
to
council
using
the
web
form
on
the
city's
website.
The
link
to
that
form
will
be
tweeted
out
at
or
on
at
Vancity.
Clerk.
I
also
want
to
know
the
city
of
Vancouver's,
long-standing
commitment
to
equity,
diversity
and
inclusion,
including
the
utmost
respect
for
all
genders,
I
remind
Council
that
when
addressing
speakers
and
the
city's
team
members,
we
will
avoid
using
gen
gendered
honorifics
and
will
instead
refer
to
the
person
by
first
and
last
name
role
or
title.
A
So
today
we
have
three
administrative
items
in
camera:
motion,
adoption
of
minutes
and
matters
adopted
on
consent,
one
presentation,
one
communication,
eight
reports
and
six
referral
reports:
four
bylaws,
four
council
member
motions
notice,
the
council,
members,
motions
and
new
business
inquiries
and
other
matters
the
plan
for
today
we
will
break
at
noon
for
lunch,
followed
by
an
in-camera
meeting.
We
will
return
here
at
3
pm,
continue
to
deal
with
the
remainder
of
the
agenda
and
finish
by
5
PM,
as
there
is
a
public
hearing
at
6
pm
tonight.
A
Now,
council
is
require
required
to
meet
in
camera
later
this
week.
The
reasons
and
the
Authority
Under
The
Vancouver
Charter,
are
listed
in
the
agenda.
Would
someone
like
to
move
a
motion
to
go
on
camera
later
this
week,
councilor
Clawson
seconded
by
counselor
Carr?
Thank
you
all.
Those
in
favor
say
yay
all
those
posts
they
nay.
The
motion
carries
unanimously
minutes
one
or
from
the
council
meeting
of
January
the
31st
2023..
Are
there
any
corrections
to
the
minutes?
A
Would
someone
like
to
move
adoption
so
a
counselor
Carr
moved
it
seconded
by
councilor
Meisner,
create
all
those
in
favor
say:
yay
all
those
posting
a
motion
carries
unanimously
minutes
two
or
from
the
council
meeting
following
the
standing
committee
of
City,
Finance
and
services
meeting
of
February,
the
1st
2023..
Are
there
any
corrections
to
the
minutes?
A
Would
someone
like
to
move
to
option
counselor
Joe?
Thank
you
seconded
councilor
Montague.
Thank
you.
All.
Those
in
favor
say
yay,
all
those
upholstery,
nay
right.
The
motion
carries
unanimously
minutes.
Three
are
from
the
auditor
general
community
meeting
of
February,
the
second
2023..
Are
there
any
corrections
to
the
minutes?
A
Would
someone
like
to
move
an
option
and
councilor
Montague?
May
we
have
a
secondary
great
counselor
dominado,
all
those
in
favor
say
yay,
all
those
pulsing,
a
the
motion
carries
unanimously
minutes.
Four
are
from
the
court
of
revision
Bia
meeting
on
February,
the
2nd
2023..
Are
there
any
corrections
to
the
minutes?
A
Would
someone
like
me
of
adoption,
counselor
Carr?
Thank
you.
May
we
have
a
secondary
counselor
Joe.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
those
in
favor
say
yay.
All
those
posts
in
a
the
motion
carries
unanimously.
A
Okay,
matters
adopted
on
consent.
Well
we're
just
ripping
through
this.
This
is
great.
Council
will
now
consider
we'll
say:
I
didn't
Jinx
that
counselor
Council
will
now
consider
matters
adopted
on
consent.
We
have
communication
one
report
two
through
eight
and
referral
reports,
one
through
SEC
six
on
the
consent
agenda
for
council's
consideration.
Council
May
adopt
the
recommendations
for
communication.
One
reports
two
through
eight
and
referral
reports,
one
through
six
on
consent.
A
A
It
should
be,
you
know,
reports
two
through
eight,
it
was
communication,
one
so
I'll
I'll
say
it
again:
Council
May
adopt
the
recommendations
for
communication,
one
reports
two
through
eight
and
referral
reports,
one
through
six
on
consent,
I,
probably
misspoke.
A
A
Okay,
so
we
have
the
following:
we
have
a
communication,
one
changes
to
the
2023
council
meeting
schedule.
We
have
report
number
two
2023
street
cleaning
grants.
We
have
report
number
three
appointment
of
child
care
operators,
lease
approvals,
Child
Care
Grant
approvals
and
approval
of
funding
for
maintenance
of
licensed
Child
Care
Centers
at
West;
Fraser
lands,
Henry,
Hudson,
Elementary,
School
and
marpole
Community
Center.
We
have
report
number
four
funding
application
to
the
use:
ubcm
Community
emergency
preparedness
fund
for
emergency
Support
Services.
A
A
Eight
auditor
general
committee
recommend
foundations
transmitter
report
and
we
have
referral
reports
one
through
six,
so
number
one
is
rezoning:
58.28
to
5850
Granville
Street
number,
two
rezoning
1522
West
45th
Avenue
and
6137
gramble
Street
report
number
three
cd-1
rezoning,
7688
to
7720
Camby
Street;
referral
report
for
cd1,
rezoning,
103
to
111,
North,
Templeton
drive
and
2185
Oxford
Street
referral
report
number
six,
rezoning,
817
to
837
West,
28th,
Avenue
and
4375
Willow
Street
and
referral
report.
Number
six
miscellaneous
amendments
concerning
various
cd-1
bylaws.
A
Would
someone
like
to
move
adoption
of
the
recommendation?
Thank
you
very.
So
it
was
moved
by
councilor,
Carr
or
no
councilor,
dominado
and
then
seconded
by
councilor
Carr.
All
those
in
favor
say
yay.
All
those
people
say,
nay
rate.
The
motion
carries
unanimously
all
right.
So
now,
I
have
to
read
that
out
again
the
following
has
been
approved
on
it's:
okay,
I
read
it
yes
great
saved
about
19
minutes
there.
A
At
this
time,
I
would
like
to
recommend
we
move
a
motion
to
vary
the
agenda
in
order
to
hear
the
report.
One
before
the
presentation
would
someone
like
to
move
a
motion.
Thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
Carr!
Is
there
a
secondary
councilor
Meisner?
The
motion
carries
okay.
Our
first
item
is
report.
One
Grant
VCH
for
expanded
mental
health
response.
Does
any
member
wish
to
declare
a
conflict
of
interest
on
this
item.
B
D
A
A
Okay,
is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion?
No
all
right,
so
all
in
favor.
This
is
the
motion
to
move
the
report
up
in
front
of
the
presentation.
I
know
a
little
tricky.
Isn't
it
okay?
So
is
there
any
discussion
on
moving
up
no
great,
so
we'll
bring
it
to
a
vote
now,
all
in
favor
of
moving
the
report,
one
before
the
presentation
say:
yay,
okay,
great
all
those
opposed
saying,
hey
right,
the
motion
carries
all
right.
A
Our
first
item
is
report
number
one
Grant
to
VCH
for
expanded
mental
health
response.
Does
any
member
wish
to
declare
a
conflict
of
interest
on
this
item
great?
We
now
have
Sandra
Singh
general
manager,
Arts
culture
and
Community
Services
here
to
provide
opening
remarks.
Sandra.
E
Good
morning,
mayor
and
Council,
we
are
delighted
to
be
here
with
you
this
morning
to
report
back
to
you
on
the
motion
that
that
Council
passed
in
November
2022
is
one
of
your
first
orders
of
business,
so
I'm
here
today
with
Mary
Claire
Zach,
our
managing
director
of
social
policy
and
projects
and
partners,
VCH
and
VPD.
We
have
with
us
Dr
Patricia,
Daly
Bob
Chapman,
vice
president
of
Vancouver
Community,
their
colleagues
who
they
will
introduce
later
on,
as
well
as
deputy
chief
Fiona
Wilson
from
BPD.
Should
you
have
any
questions
around
VPD?
E
So,
as
as
Council
will
recall,
you
passed
quite
an
extensive
Motion
in
November
related
to
enhancing
mental
health
supports
in
the
city.
This
report
back
today
relates
simply
to
items
C
and
F,
and
we
will
report
back
on
other
matters
in
that
motion
at
a
future
date.
So
this
is
related
to
the
grant
to
VCH
to
enable
them
to
increase
their
their
service.
Mental
Health
Services
in
community,
in
particular,
to
people
in
crisis,
as
well
as
related
to
the
evaluation
of
the
of
any
programming
that
arises
from
the
city's
investment.
E
So
I
will
turn
the
presentation
over
to
Dr
Daly
and
Mr
Chapman
to
walk
you
through
the
the
mental
health
response
framework
that
VCH
created
in
response
to
council's
motion
and
interest
in
funding
this
work
and
at
the
end
of
the
presentation,
I
have
a
couple
of
administrative
matters
around
how
we
will
process
the
Grant
and
then,
as
mentioned,
we
have
the
whole
team
here
here
to
support
your
deliberations
by
answering
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
F
Putting
together
this
proposal
today,
now
I'm
just
going
to
start
by
once
again
acknowledging
that
we
are
presenting
today
on
the
traditional
unseated
territories
of
the
mosque
in
Squamish
and
slay,
with
tooth
Nations
and
Vancouver
Coastal.
Health
geography
actually
covers
the
geography
of
14
additional
14
total
First
Nations
in
BC.
In
addition,
if
we
look
at
the
indigenous
population
within
Vancouver,
Coastal
Health,
most
of
them
actually
live
within
the
urban
core.
F
They
come
not
only
from
the
14
First
Nations
shown
here,
but
from
First
Nations
and
metis
and
Inuit
communities
from
across
BC
and
elsewhere
in
Canada.
We
also
know
that
indigenous
people
in
this
province
don't
enjoy
the
same
health
status
as
the
rest
of
the
population.
There
are
preventable
inequities
in
their
health
status
that
we
aim
to
narrow
and
I
just
want
to
acknowledge.
As
the
mayor
did
that
this
week
we
also
have
the
March
acknowledging
the
missing
and
murdered
indigenous
women
and
Indigenous
women
and
Indigenous
men
in
particular.
F
Now
I'm
going
to
start
by
just
reminding
mayor
and
Council
of
the
the
city
of
Vancouver,
healthy
City
strategy
and
the
reason
I
do
this
is
because,
as
as
Council
passed,
this
motion
and
as
Vancouver
Coastal
Health
have
put
together
this
proposal.
There's
been
some
question
about
why
the
city
of
Vancouver
would
fund
a
health
strategy
and
I
remind
as
I've
done
for
many
years
working
as
the
medical
health
officer
here
in.
F
As
for
the
city
of
Vancouver,
if
we
look
at
the
things
that
determine
good
health
in
our
population,
health
services
are
one
of
the
determinants
of
Health,
but
they
probably
account
for
only
25
percent
of
our
of
our
overall
population.
Health
75
is
determined
by
other
things.
Things
like
education,
housing,
poverty,
early
childhood
development
and,
in
fact,
Municipal
governments
can
play
a
critical
role
in
improving
the
health
of
the
populations
they
serve
by
addressing
some
of
these
underlying
determinants
of
health
and
that's
what
the
Vancouver
healthy
City
strategy.
F
So
in
thinking
about
this,
it
makes
sense
that
mayor
and
Council
would
be
concerned
about
an
important
health
issue.
The
mental
health
and
substance
use
challenges
of
the
inner
city
population
in
Vancouver
and
aim
to
address
those
through,
in
this
case,
a
grant
and
I'm.
Now
going
to
invite
my
colleague,
Bob
Chapman
up
to
describe
to
you
the
details
of
the
proposal
we
have
for
you
today.
G
G
So
thank
you
to
everyone
for
everything
you've
put
in
to
make
this
where
we
are
today,
we
thought
we'd
start
with
just
a
a
bit
of
a
goal
from
our
perspective
about
how
we
want
to
move
forward
with
this
great
opportunity
for
these
resources
that
will
actually
provide
some
much
needed
services
in
Vancouver
and
really
it's
about
trying
to
start
with
the
right
foot
forward:
a
culturally
safe,
Health
forward
system
for
our
response
to
people
in
crisis.
G
G
And
thirdly,
we
really
want,
as
Patty's
mentioned
and
others
have
referenced,
to
have
an
indigenous
perspective
around,
not
just
the
care
that
people
receive
But
the
lens
we
provide
around
how
we
change
outcomes
for
those
that
we
care
for
in
Vancouver,
who
have
an
indigenous
background
as
Patty
mentioned,
are
overrepresented
in
many
of
the
programs
that
we
see.
G
So
the
framework
is
six
components
for
this
fiscal
year.
We're
really
talking
about
the
response
part
at
the
top
of
the
framework.
Our
intention
is
to
look
at
the
secondary
piece,
the
proactive
part
in
subsequent
years,
really
we're
looking
at
expanding
our
police
partnership.
What
we
refer
to
as
our
car
8788
programs
we're
looking
at
a
non-police
de-escalation
program.
G
G
So
this
slide
really
takes
those
six
components
and
gives
you
a
bit
more
information
about
it
and
really
what
I'd
like
to
say
around
the
police,
partnership
programs
and
the
expansion
of
the
car
is.
We
know
that
we
only
are
able
to
respond
to
the
calls
with
the
police
Christ
Evan
Cartier,
which
is
a
nurse
and
a
police
officer
together
in
a
small
portion
of
the
house
that
we
receive,
maybe
about
30,
35
percent
of
the
time.
G
This
will
actually
double
the
number
of
cars
on
the
road
for
us,
with
nurses
in
them,
and
I.
Just
also
want
to
reiterate
that
in
the
cardi
7
card,
a
program
that
nurse
is
first
in
the
response
the
police
are.
There
is
back
up
to
support
us
in
situations
where
we
think
staff
are
going
to
be
at
risk,
or
we
actually
need
to
implement
components
and
pieces
around
the
mental
health
act
and
bring
people
to
hospital.
We
do
require
the
police
for
those
components.
G
Our
monarchy
escalation
is
the
bulk
of
the
resources
that
we're
putting
forward
for
this
initiative
in
the
next
fiscal
year,
and
it
really
is
about
supporting
a
non-police
response
for
people
who
have
a
moderate
escalation
that
we
can
divert
to
nurses,
social
workers,
communityism
workers
and
peers.
As
a
bulk
of
the
team,
you
will
see
that
we
are
approaching
these
initiatives
with
a
very
diverse
team.
G
We
sometimes
get
asked
about
the
level
of
escalation
around
risk
for
individuals,
and
we
thought
this
might
be
helpful
to
set
the
frame
of
how
our
responses
are
here.
So
so
often
we
have
at
the
most
urgent
of
a
situation
and
I
want
one
call
for
someone
to
get
help.
G
We
definitely
try
wherever
we
can
to
have
the
health
nurse
and
police
officer
and
cardi
7
to
respond.
Next,
we
have
a
few
other
teams
that
also
are
clinicians
social
workers
and
nurses,
with
police
in
attendance,
our
serve
Outreach
team
and
are
what
we
call
act,
our
assertive
Community
treatment,
team
and
then
we're
building
in
the
block
the
moderate
non-police
de-escalation
service,
which
is
not
something
as
I
mentioned.
G
We
have
right
now,
which
is
really
trying
to
look
at
individuals
that
we
can
see
who
are
starting
to
decompensate
and
escalate,
and
we
are
trying
to
get
preventative
and
not
have
them
get
to
a
major
crisis.
We
have
been
in
contact
with
the
KM
health
Association.
We
are
aware
of
the
PAC
model
and
we
do
see
this
as
a
piece
of
the
Continuum.
G
G
We
are
also
committing
to
a
community
reference
group
to
really
help
us
guide.
The
de-escalation
response
I'm,
not
sure
why
it's
turning
off
so
I'm,
not
sure
if
I'm
doing
something
wrong-
and
it
really
is
looking
at
a
proof
of
concept
to
make
sure
that
this
is
actually
meeting
the
need
and
which
leads
me
to
the
third
piece
of
this.
We
are
committing
to
an
external
evaluation
to
help
us
understand
the
impact
of
these
services
and
before
we
actually
invest
in
further
phases,
are
we
on
the
right
track.
G
So,
as
I
mentioned
in
phase
two,
we
will
look
at
a
more
proactive
pieces
of
our
framework
and
absolutely
take
that
reference
group
and
evaluation
components
into
play.
We
do
expect
over
the
coming
year
that
it
will
take
us
some
time
to
higher
up
all
these
teams
and
so
I'm
not
entirely
sure
when
the
evaluation
can
realistically
start,
but
we'll
definitely
start
that
as
students
were
able
to
foreign.
G
This
gives
you
a
bit
of
an
indication
of
some
of
the
positions
that
we're
putting
in
place
and
the
different
teams
they
will
be
involved
in
and
I
won't
go
into
too
much
detail,
but
it
just
gives
you
a
sense
of
how
we're
going
to
increase
some
of
our
response
and
contact.
G
And
there
have
been
some
questions
to
us
about
how
we
are
going
to
triage
and
manage
the
responses.
There
are
multiple
ways
to
access
our
services.
There
are
three
core
areas
up
there
that
you
can
actually
call
and
refer
to
us.
We
expect
those
to
continue.
We
will
coordinate
across
those
ways
to
reach
us
and
we
will
then
try
and
determine
with
a
better
triage
approach,
how
we
actually
respond.
Is
it
a
car
response?
Is
it
a
patrol
response?
Is
it
the
modern
de-escalation
team,
the
non-police
response.
G
This
is
roughly
our
timeline
that
we
expect
over
the
coming
year
to
really
start
to
higher
up,
do
postings
and
bring
people
online.
This
may
change,
depending
on
how
successful
we
are,
but
we're
pretty
confident.
We
have
had
a
number
of
new
investments
in
many
services
in
the
inner
city
and
we
have,
although
it's
timely,
it
takes
some
time
we
have
been
successful
to
recruiting
to
these
positions.
G
This
is
the
budget
that
we're
putting
forward
that
will
relate
to
this.
You
can
see
how
we
will
scale
up
over
the
first
year
and
actually
get
to
our
full
implementation
in
year,
two,
which
of
course,
then
would
also
have
the
additional
phase,
two
components
that
we
would
bring
on
foreign,
and
there
are
just
a
couple
things
that
we
need
to
sort
out
around
Logistics.
We
actually
haven't
sorted
out
where
all
the
staff
are
going
to
sit
where
they're
going
to
be.
G
Yet
we
do
know
that
that's
something
we
have
to
work
on
and
I
do
think
that
there
is
an
important
piece
missing
in
our
system
that
we
will
be
working
with
our
non-profits
and
our
city
Partners
around
when
you
have
someone
who
is
escalating
and
needing
a
response,
keeping
them
on
the
street
corners
trying
to
de-escalate
them
is
actually
not
an
ideal
place.
G
We
need
some
safe,
welcoming
drop-in
spaces,
where
we
can
take
people
in
a
quiet,
lower
stimulation
environment
where
they
can
be
supported,
and
we
can
work
continue
to
work
with
them
and
determine
where
we're
going
to
go
from
there
with
our
other
teams
and
other
services.
Some
of
these
individuals
are
likely
to
have
been
known
to
us
or
some
of
our
teams.
Some
of
them
may
not,
and
not
some
of
the
work
that
we'll
have
to
do
so.
G
There
is
some
work
to
come
in
to
come
forward
for
us
around
how
we
actually
I
determine
and
identify
some
of
those
spaces.
E
Thank
you
so
much,
okay,
just
a
a
few
administrative
matters
and
then
we'll
we'll
be
available
for
questions.
This
is
the
largest
operating
grant.
That
accs
has
has
brought
to
council
for
consideration
and
given
the
complexity
of
of
expanding
the
existing
services
and
starting
up
the
new
services
that
Bob
described
that
were
what
we're
recommending
is
up
to
the
2.8
million
dollars
to
support
the
the
initiation
of
phase
one
in
2023
as
per
vch's
proposal
and
then
scaling
up
to
in
further
years,
based
on
implementation.
E
As
you'll
see
in
the
report,
there
are
a
number
of
of
things
that
can
impact
implementation
of
a
program,
hiring
delays,
things
like
that,
and
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
as
we
as
we
as
we
provide
this
funding
this
to
to
VCH,
that
that
we're
doing
in
a
way
that
is,
is
aligned
with
their
their
ramping.
These
Services
up,
so
the
grant
agreement
will
seek
to
release
the
funding
on
a
quarterly
basis
after
reporting
to
tie
that
funding
to
the
to
the
actual
spends
will
be
very
closely.
E
We
work
very
closely
with
vchs
Dr
Daley
noted
and
Bob
noted
now,
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that
as
we
as
we
support
them
in
the
in
the
rollout
of
this
program
and
we're
very
excited
by
the
evaluation
ideas
that
VCH,
the
VCH
team
has
put
forward
in
their
proposal
and
they've
confirmed
that
their
methodology
will
include.
You
know
metrics
and
qualitative
analysis,
indigenous
methodology
with
this
and
with
a
particular
Focus
as
well
on
how
these
Services
support
indigenous
black
people
of
color
women,
marginalized
differently,
abled
and
lgbtqia
2s
plus
people.
E
So
that
is
the
end
of
our
presentation
and
we
are
pleased
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
A
Council,
you
have
up
to
five
minutes
to
ask
questions
of
team
members
and
before
there's
a
whole
whole
Q.
Here,
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone.
He
gave
me
grief
for
extending
the
well
beyond
five
minutes
that
I
will
be
cutting
you
off
right
at
five.
Was
that
your
request,
not
mine,
so
counselor
fry
you're
up
thanks.
H
So,
first
question:
just
on:
on
the
whole,
this
original
motion
contemplated
a
hundred
nurses
attached
to
100
police
officers
and
we're
not
seeing
that
which
is
great
and
I
think
that
the
non-policing
intervention
is
more
appropriate.
Are
we
do
we
expect
more
nurses
attached
to
police
officers
as
a
phase
two,
or
is
this
the
the
kind
of.
E
In
in
vch's
proposal,
they
focused
on
an
interdisciplinary
response
to
mental
health
situations
and
crises,
and
so,
as
you'll
see
in
their
proposal,
their
their
response
teams
include
nurses,
as
well
as
other
types
of
professionals,
as
well
as
peers,
which
are
very
important
in
the
response,
and
we
do
anticipate
seeing
the
the
phase
two
funding
requests
coming
forward.
Once
phase
one
is.
H
H
That's
fantastic
so,
on
the
subject
of
spaces
and
I,
think
that's
a
really
critical
distinction
and
I
appreciate
about
bringing
that
back
to
us,
because
recognizing
that
Crisis,
Intervention
and
de-escalation
on
the
street
corner
isn't
going
to
work
if
people
have
nowhere
to
go
and
they're
still
hungry,
they're
still
sick,
they're
still
outside.
H
E
It's
a
really
good
question,
the
absolutely
the
need
for
more
drop-in
spaces.
More
Social
Service
spaces
is
critical
in
the
inner
city
neighborhoods,
and
it's
something
that
we're
regularly
in
discussion
with
senior
government
Partners
about
typically
the
city's
role
in
those
types
of
services,
or
we
will
try
to
bring
the
space
if
we
have
it
in
our
in
our
space
portfolio.
But
we
do
rely
on
senior
government
to
bring
that
funding.
E
Social
services
are
the
responsibility
of
senior
government,
and
so
it's
something
that
we're
regularly
in
discussion
with
and
we'll
continue
that
and
and
as
Bob
noted,
it's
really
important
for
people
to
have
an
indoor
space
to
go
and
or,
as
you
see
they
end
up,
they
end
up
in
on
other
unsuitable
situations
in
alleys,
sidewalks,
Parks,.
H
E
Certainly,
having
discussions
with
with
senior
government
with
the
province
around
the
need
for
these
spaces,
and
it's
a
it's
an
active
topic
of
discussion
right
now
in
relation
to
the
work
in
the
downtown
east
side,.
E
So
as
part
of
the
Hasting
Street
response,
the
city
worked
with
with
senior
Government
funding,
support
to
open
up
two
new
spaces,
one
at
Hastings
in
Maine,
which
is
operated
by
Aboriginal
front
door
and
we
repurposed
a
space,
a
city
space
on
Alexander
that
the
old
Evelyn
Salah
center,
with
again
with
funding
from
the
from
the
province
through
ubcm
and
and
that's
being
operated
by
watari.
But
those
are
we
do.
H
Yeah,
okay,
oh
it
just
escaped
me,
I'll
jump
back
on.
It
absolutely
lost
my
train
of
thought.
Thanks.
A
I
Yeah,
thank
you,
and
thanks
to
Steph
for
and
Coastal
Health,
as
well
as
our
team,
for
the
work
with
respects
to
the
comment
that
was
made
in
the
presentation
around
this
is
the
moderate
de-escalations,
the
bulk
of
the
response
this
year
and
then
the
inclusion,
the
non-police
response
and
also
the
comment
in
terms
of
doubling
the
number
of
cars
just
wanted
to
clarify
the
split
I
know
it's
reference
between
car,
87
and
aot
in
terms
of
where
they
sit
on
the
risk
response.
I
Continuum
and
just
wonder
if
you
can
talk
a
little
bit
in
real
terms
around
what
that
looks
like
what
time
periods
were
left
underserved
with
the
current
resources,
for
example
like?
Could
we
not
service
people
on
weekends
after
certain
hours?
So
like?
What
will
this
actually
look
like
in
terms
of
being
able
to
somebody
that
that
needs
that
response
being
able
to
have
those
folks
going
out
sure.
G
That's
a
good
question:
we
are
doubling
the
car
for
all
the
hours
the
car
is
currently
operating
for
car
87,
car
88.
So
I
can't
remember
the
exact
start
seven
morning
till
11
30
at
night
yeah
seven
days
a
week,
so
that
will
double
the
number
of
nurses
and
cars
there's
one
per
shift,
and
now
that
will
be
two
per
shift
for
the
entire
span
of
that
seven
day
week.
Service.
I
G
So
sometimes
the
calls
come
into
cardio
seven
and
we
deploy
the
car
there
with
someone
actively
working
with
them.
Other
calls
come
in.
They
have
to
go
back
to
other
response.
They
may
go
to
9-1-1.
They
may
go
to
somewhere
else
tell
the
response.
So
our
goal
in
this
is
to
actually
reduce
the
number
that
are
actually
diverted
elsewhere
and
that
we
can
continue
to
have
a
mental
health
nurse
response
as
a
Forefront.
For
these
calls.
Okay.
I
I
Okay,
I
want
I
wanted
to
in
the
conversations
and
the
dialogues.
I
know
this
is
an
unprecedented
step
that
we're
taking,
but
Vancouver
is
not
alone
in
seeing
these
issues
we're
seeing
them
in
across
other
cities,
in
the
province
and
across
the
country,
and
some
of
your
conversations
based
on
the
outcomes.
Do
you
think
this
is
something
we
could
see
expanding
into
other
cities
and
other
areas.
G
Well,
I
think
we
haven't
mentioned,
but
we've
absolutely
had
the
Ministry
of
Health,
the
Ministry
of
Health
mental
health
and
substance
use
at
the
table
with
us.
In
these
conversations
they
are
absolutely
very
aware
and
supportive,
as
you
know,
the
announcements
last
weekend
or
sorry
two
weekends
ago,
we
are
absolutely
partnering
with
them
or
what
that
can?
This
can
look
like
I
I
do
think
in
Vancouver
we
have
a
more
unique
challenge
in
our
inner
city:
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
doesn't
happen
elsewhere
in
other
municipalities
and
areas
of
the
province.
I
If
we're
really
pulling
together
here
and
trying
to
address
an
unprecedented
challenge
in
the
city,
you
mentioned
the
outcome
based
in
that's
the
philosophy,
I
think
that
we
took
and
bring
forth
the
motion
that
we
would
be
guided
by
evidence
and
sort
of
expertise
when
we're
taking
these
recommendations
from
Health,
and
do
you
see
potentially
that
we
could
shift
to
strategy
based
on
this
in
terms
of
if
the
police
non-police
response,
Works,
doesn't
work,
etc?
I
G
I
I
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilor
Boyle.
A
J
Causing
harm
but
they're
clearly
not
well
and
and
it's
a
disruption.
Maybe
it
makes
people
uncomfortable
right
now.
I
know
many
things
can
happen,
but
right
now,
what
would
somebody
do?
What
would
the
response
be?
Can
you
just
walk
us
through
sort
of
the
current
situation,
yeah.
G
Well,
currently,
right
now
we
actually
don't
have
a
lot
of
crisis
response
for
that.
What
you
described
and
I
think
that
is
for
them
to
reach
out
to
us.
We
certainly
don't
want
to
limit
it
to
one
phone
number
and
then
someone
can't
find
that
phone
number.
So
we
just
need
to
be
thoughtful
about
that.
Okay,.
J
G
On
stimulants
and
they
often
clear
from
those
stimulants
in
a
few
hours,
which
is
why
they
might
be
discharged
back
out
to
the
community
because
they're
in
a
better
place.
So
it
isn't
a
black
and
white
scenario
on
how
people
end
up
coming
to
New
deteriorate
and
have
to
go
to
hospital.
That's
not
in
their
best
interest,
nor
ours.
J
Exactly
my.
F
Housing
crisis:
that's
why
we're
looking
for
drop
in
space,
as
many
people
are
on
the
street,
our
response
to
to
covid-19
that
Bob
mentioned
not
the
Bible.
It.
A
Just
isn't
natural
to
come
off
here,
so
thank
you.
Councilor
Meisner,
yeah.
C
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
very
happy
to
see
this
aspect
move
forward,
but
my
question
is
around
a
little
bit
more
around
the
hospital.
This.
G
C
G
K
Thanks
very
much,
it's
just
a
few
questions
to
follow
up
I
heard
a
few
times
now
around
drop-in
spaces
or
somewhere
for
folks
to
be
able
to
de-escalate
and
be
supported
by
the
the
you
know,
staff
and
and
partnership
with
the
VPD
I
guess,
but
like
what
can
we
actually
do
to
help
make
this
happen?
K
We've
clearly
been
able
to
do
a
lot
with
this
Grant
and
be
able
to
use
that
Collective
advocacy
and
partnership
so
I'm
wondering
because
we
keep
hearing
this
we've
passed
motions
at
Council
to
enable
more
space
to
provide
supports
and
care
for
people
in
community.
What's
the
block
here
that
we
could
better
understand
to
help
to
take
this
to
the
next
level.
G
It's
really
up
to
Municipal
the
city
ourselves,
BC
housing,
our
non-profits,
to
come
together
to
try
and
understand
how
can
we
actually
fill
this
void
with
what
services
exist
out
there
or
what
do
we
need
to
actually
bring
forward
to
try
and
support
this
differently?
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
anything
Patty.
F
Just
briefly,
I
I
do
think
it
was
very
positive
that
mayor
stem
and
Council
when
this,
when
this
initiative
was
announced,
were
with
the
Premier
Premier
EB,
and
he
referred
to
the
Vancouver
Charter
in
the
Vancouver
agreement.
I
think
we
have
to
bring
together
all
levels
of
government
that
are
investing
in
the
city
of
Vancouver
in
a
number
of
ways
to
cons
drop
in
spaces
is
just
one
of
many
needs
to
look
at
how
we
are
working
together
to
address
these
needs,
and
certainly
you've
shown
leadership
in
this.
K
Regard
so
thank
you
just
to
clarify,
because
you're
right
there
are
many
things
we
need
to
do,
but
we
need
to
also
do
something
sooner
than
later,
so
in
terms
of
low-hanging
fruit
or
what
is
that
greatest
need?
That
would
give
us
what
is
required
to
take
this
from
60
to
100,
for
example.
Is
it
space
or
is
it
something
else,
space.
K
K
Great,
so
that's
good
to
know.
Thank
you
just
to
follow
up
to
the
questions
to
councilor
Boyle
sort
of
talking
about
this
line
of
communication
is:
is
it
the
intent
that
there
will
be
new
sort
of
guidelines
or
directions
given
to
Ecom
in
the
instance
that
there's
a
9-1-1
call
that
would
be
best
suited
to
this
type
of
response?
Yeah.
G
K
That's
how
this
works,
paramedics,
so
I
know
car
87
at
times
can
find
themselves
waiting
for
quite
some
time
for
support
if
they're.
Well,
they
have
a
transport
vehicle
themselves
that
they
need
to
take
people
to
the
to
emergency,
but
how's
this
working
in
terms
of
with
any
potential
delays
with
paramedics,
response
or
others
in
order
to
get
people
into
emergency.
If
that's
what
they
need.
L
Thanks
for
that
question,
so
all
of
our
car
8788
cars
are
equipped
to
transport
people
to
the
hospital
because,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
know,
we
have
had
some
challenges
with
bchs
over
the
last
year
or
so
in
relation
to
response
times.
So
in
response
to
that,
we
have
been
coming
up
with
different
ways
to
make
sure
that
people
get
the
care
they
need
and
get
transported
to
hospital
in.
L
One
of
those
ways
is
to
make
sure
that
our
our
car
8788
cars
in
particular,
but
we
also
have
a
number
of
other
cars
that
are
now
on
the
road
in
our
regular
Fleet
that
are
able
to
transport
people
to
the
hospital
which,
of
course,
is
not
ideal.
At
least
the
car
87
88
cars
are
unmarked
because
we
don't
want
to
find
ourselves
in
a
position
where
we're
transporting
people,
for
example,
in
a
police
wagon.
Thank.
A
M
Great
thanks
thanks
so
much
mayor.
My
first
question
is
around
the
fact
that
you
have
Vancouver.
Coastal
Health
has
suggested
a
range
of
professionals,
so
not
just
nurses
but
those
other
professionals.
Those
are
sort
of
I,
think
three
categories
or
you
know,
of
of
kinds
of
professionals,
including
I,
think
you
said
Pier
or
street.
Is
that
what
you
mean
when
you
say
the
range
of
people?
Okay,.
G
J
M
Everywhere,
yeah.
Secondly,
you
said
it
would
take
time
to
hire
the
teams.
How
much
time
can
you
do
it
in
this
budget
year.
G
Well,
the
reason
we
don't
have
a
hundred
nurses
coming
forward
and
the
reason
we
have
a
phase
two,
which
is
the
wraparound
care
that's
coming
in
later
years,
is
we
don't
think
we
feasibly
can
do
all
this
in
one
calendar
year
and
you'll
see
that
in
the
the
budget
ask
it's
really
scaling
it
up
over
time.
It
takes
us
a
while
to
hire
these
teams
to
find
space
for
them.
As
I
mentioned,
we
don't
even
have
job
postings
on
the
board.
M
Great.
Thank
you.
Third
question
really
is
related
to
the
point
you
just
made
about
wrap
around
care.
I.
Think
most
people
who
are
very
much
affected
by
and
concerned
about
this
issue
want
to
know
not
just
what
the
emergency
or
the
immediate
responses
to
a
crisis,
but
then,
if
somebody's
ready
to
go
into
some
more
comprehensive
treatment,
what
are
they've
been
availabilities
for
that
and
the
timing
of
the
bed
availabilities.
M
Can
you
maybe
speak
to
how
you
are
working
with
the
provincial
government
around
more
generally
I
know
you
are
the
provincial
company,
but
more
generally,
absolutely.
G
G
We've
been
working
very
closely
with
the
provincial
government,
both
ministries
of
Ministry,
of
Health
and
mystery
mental
health
and
substance
use.
You
may
be
aware
that
the
road
to
recovery
was
announced
some
time
ago,
which
is
going
to
bring
some
more
withdrawal
or
detox
beds
online
in
Vancouver
as
well,
some
treatment
beds
and
some
more
wraparound
care
teams
for
individuals
who
are
needing
to
go
through
services
around
their
substance
use
disorder.
G
Many
of
our
teams
right
now
do
Outreach,
like
large
numbers
of
our
teams,
are
doing
Outreach
into
buildings
into
shelters
into
housing
units
and
many
of
our
housing
units,
particularly
with
the
complex
care
housing
that
was
announced
about
a
year
ago,
also
have
embedded
supports
in
those
models.
Some
of
the
modulars
that
have
come
online
have
health
supported
beds
in
them
where
we
have
staff
seven
days
a
week,
so
I
think
there's
multiple
ways
that
we
can
Pride
that
wraparound
care
for
people
depending
on
what
their
needs
are
and
a
lot
of
the
population.
G
M
G
Of
my
head,
we'd
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that
councilor
Carr.
M
A
You
thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
Joe,
okay,.
N
Thanks
thanks
mayor
and
thanks
for
the
team
move
this
forward,
so
I
want
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions
to
our
medical
experts.
I
think
you'll
talk
about
this
before,
but
I
want
to
ask
this
question
again
in
a
public
situation.
So
in
a
very
high
risk
situation,
is
it
possible
to
deploy
the
healthcare
Team
without
the
support
from
The,
Vancouver,
Police,
Department
and.
O
If
you
would
ask
our
very
experienced
Healthcare
professionals
and
and
workers
and
nurses,
they
would
say
no
they're
going
into
very
they're
going
to
situations
where
there
are
multiple
variables
and
many
of
those
variables
can
contribute
to
a
very
risky
situation.
So
even
in
scenarios
even
in
hospitals,
you'll
have
incidents
where
the
nurses
can
become
get
hurt
and
that's
in
a
situation
where
those
variables
are
controlled.
O
So
if
you're,
if
you're
meeting
somebody
for
the
first
time
in
a
scenario
which
might
be
on
the
street,
you
might
have
crystal
methamphetamine
involved,
which
is
ever
prevalent
in
in
in
in
the
city.
That
could
be
quite
a
concerning
scenario,
so
our
nurses
will
would
tell
us
that
no
they're
not
feeling
safe
enough
to
go
out
there
by
themselves
and
initially.
O
N
So
then,
how
do
you
think
the
partnership
with
Vancouver
Police
Department
will
enhance
the
the
the
service
we
provide
to
the
people
there.
O
Sorry,
just
to
clarify
how
how
does
investment
enhance
the
service
with
the
partnership
with
The
Vancouver
Police
Department
correct.
So
you
know
the
the
car
is
a
one-off
sort
of
interaction
and
really
responding
to
crisis,
and
so
these
other
tiers
that
we're
building
into
the
system
speaking
to
the
importance
of
relationship
building
with
clients
in
the
community.
Much
of
what
is
positive
that
happens
in
health
care
happens
because
of
a
good
relationship
with
the
clients
and
the
and
the
patients
that
we
take
care
of.
O
So
if
there
are
with
with
these
new
tiers
we're
able
to
develop
those
relationships
and
over
time,
I
think
we're.
When
we
are
responding,
we
might
know
somebody
who's
struggling.
You
know
some
a
call
comes
in
and
some
one
on
one
of
our
team
says:
okay,
we
actually
know
that
person
we're
going
to
go
out,
so
maybe
we
don't
need
a
police
response
in
that
scenario.
So
over
time,
we're
hoping
for
this
shift
to
the
that
kind
of
scenario.
Okay,.
N
O
Yeah,
okay,
fair
enough,
so
I
think
we're
under
development
in
terms
of
those
kpis
we
have
especially
for
the
car.
O
O
When,
oh
so,
when
oh
okay,
yeah
I,
don't
know,
I
think
that's
going
to
be
in
progress
as
well
before
later
this
year,.
A
P
Thanks
mayor
and
thank
you
to
staff
and
all
the
partners
for
the
presentation
this
morning,
I
have
a
couple
of
follow-up
questions.
Many
of
them
were
asked
around
space
and
as
well
as
triage
and
and
referral,
but
I
do
want
to
follow
up
on
the
evaluation
questions.
P
What
I
heard
is
that
likelihood
is
having
some
evaluation
outcome.
Data
at
the
end
of
this
year
did
I
hear
that
correctly.
A
P
Or
maybe
you
could
expand
in
General
on
the
evaluation
program
and
what
that
looks
like
over
the
next
three
and
a
half
years.
Sure.
Q
Current
understanding
of
that
yeah,
so
I'm
Caitlin,
Etherington
I
work
on
Bob's
team
as
a
director
with
Vancouver
Community,
really
focused
on
supported
housing,
but
I've
also
been
leaning
in
around
this
work
and
I.
Think
the
timeline
around
the
evaluation
is
really
important.
We're
going
to
be
bringing
together
a
group
of
people
to
kind
of
guide
the
evaluation,
including
our
indigenous
health
Team
and
the
city
and
the
VPD,
we'll
have
to
kind
of
go
to
some
kind
of
RFP
process
to
find
an
external
evaluator.
Q
Who
can
do
this
and
together
develop
those
kpis
in
terms
of
access
to
the
to
the
car
data?
It's
a
little
bit
more
straightforward
because
those
programs
are
already
operating,
but
in
terms
of
like
bringing
in
an
indigenous
approach
again,
that's
something
that's
going
to
develop
over
the
year,
so
we're
just
gonna
have
to
be
really
thoughtful
about
when
we
actually
start
evaluating
the
moderate
de-escalation
response,
we're
not
anticipating
to
launch
really
until
the
fall,
because
it's
a
lot
of
work
to
get
a
team
like
that
up
and
running.
Q
And
so,
if
you
think
that
we're
going
to
start
that
work
in
the
fall,
we're
not
going
to
want
to
evaluate
outcomes
until
way
into
next
year,
so
it's
going
to
be
hopefully
very
robust
and
collaborative,
but
actually
bringing
back
concrete
results
will
take
a
little
bit
of
time.
So
I
just
want
to
be
very
realistic
about
that,
and
there
will
also
be
a
component
of
it
where
we'll
have
to
look
at
qualitative
data.
Somehow,
and
that's
the
expertise
we'll
be
looking
for
for
with
that
third-party
evaluator.
P
Would
it
be
possible?
Do
you
envision
an
opportunity
to
once
we
start
actually
collecting
some
of
that
data,
be
able
to
report
back
to
Council
on
a
some
sort
of
regular
basis?
Is
there
an
opportunity
for
that
in
this.
Q
P
Fantastic
I
have
one
other
question
you
referenced
it
and
it
was
on.
My
list
was
around.
Could
you
expand
on
the
indigenous
approaches?
It
I
I
think
was
a
really
important
part
of
the
framework
presented
by
vch2
city
council
and
just
interested
to
better
understand
what
that
will
look
like
in
terms
of
policy,
but
also
in
practice
and
and
on
the
ground.
Q
So
their
understanding
that
they
need
to
you
know
I
think
there's
already
existing
tables
that
they're
going
to
lean
into
and
their
their
Elder
in
Residence
program,
but
they
need
to
do
some
consultation
on
what
their
Community
is
saying.
This.
This
needs
to
look
like
so
we've
kept
it
Broad
in
terms
of
strengthening
our
approaches
across
our
urgent
mental
health
and
substance
use
systems,
because
we're
waiting
to
hear
back
from
that
group
of
experts
around
what
that
should
look
like
to
be
a
little
bit
more
concrete.
Q
It
could
look
like
expanding
some
indigenous
specific
teams
that
exist
and
it
could
look
like
having
more
positions
on
some
of
our
other
teams
that
particularly
bring
in
that
cultural
approach
to
care
could
look
like
edging
more
education
across
all
of
our
teams.
But
we're
really
we're
not
sure
exactly,
and
we
need
a
little
bit
of
time
to
hear
back
from
that
group
and
to
do
that.
Engagement
in
a
really
thoughtful
way.
P
Absolutely
I
appreciate
that
and
then
final
question
is
sort
of
bigger
picture
with
the
information
that
when
and
well
the
interventions
will
definitely
be
undertaken
as
part
of
the
different
parts
of
this
work,
whether
it
be
de-escalation
or
the
aots
or
the
car
e788.
P
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
inform
broader
public
policy
around
prevention
and
early
intervention,
because
I
think
we
know
like
we're
catching
people
when
at
the
intervention
level
do
we
is
there
an
opportunity
through
this
work?
Do
you
think,
maybe
that
is
part
of
the
evaluation
of
informing
the
upstream?
And
can
you
comment
on
that?
Gents
generally.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
Montague.
R
Thank
you,
mayor,
I,
appreciate
all
the
questions
and
all
the
responses
makes
my
list
of
questions
much
shorter
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
one
thing
you
mentioned
that
the
need
for
police
to
bring
people
to
the
hospital
is
a
requirement.
I
just
want
to
confirm
you're
talking
about
statutory
requirements.
O
Yeah,
so
the
the
part
of
the
mental
health
act
that
the
police
would
engage
is
call
section
28
and
that's
where,
if
the
VPD
feel
that
an
individual
is
at
risk
to
themselves
or
others
due
to
a
mental
health
issue,
they
can
bring
them
to
hospital,
and
at
that
point
where
they
would
be
assessed
by
the
the
health
Team.
So
that's
the
statutory
component,
there's
no.
O
O
Certainly,
we
would
interface
with
an
individual
who
appears
to
be
going
through
a
struggle
and
if
the
Health
Partners
on
that
team
felt
that
this
individual
could
benefit
from
that
team
from
that
from
being
seen
in
hospital,
then
the
first
approach
would
be
to
ask
them
and
see
if
there
was
a
voluntarily
a
voluntary
way
for
them
to
come
for
involuntary.
O
No
other
option
that
I
can
think
of
yeah.
Okay,.
R
And
the
other
thing
I
want
to
do
is
just
is
someone
able
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
a
Cooperative
relationship
right
now
between
the
VPD
and
Vancouver
Coastal
Health?
With
regards
to
things
like
information
sharing
and
and
the
aspects
around
that.
O
So
I
think
I
think
we're
very
fortunate
in
Vancouver,
Coastal,
Health
and
specifically
Vancouver,
where
we
have
a
couple
of
police,
Health
Partnerships
already
one
a
couple
were
mentioned:
the
assertive
Outreach
team,
as
well
as
the
sort
of
community
treatment
teams,
and
so
those
are
entities
that
are
primarily
Health
driven,
but
we
have
our
police
Partnerships
there.
O
So
I
mentioned
before
the
com
relationship,
and
so
these
are
individuals
that
work
very
closely
with
our
VPD
partners
and
when
information
is
required,
we're
able
to
access
that
information
through
those
those
Partnerships
and
it
can
be
relevant
to
the
health
presentations.
Okay,.
R
Thank
you
and
then
I
guess
I
got
lots
of
time.
So
I
would
love
to
hear
the
doctor's
response
to
councilor
meisner's.
You
mentioned
that
you
had
a
a
thought
that
you
couldn't
get
out
last
time,
so
I'd
love
to
hear
it.
Oh
yeah.
G
Just
to
stay
on
your
five
minutes
around
the
Health
agreements,
we
actually
have
formalized
agreements
for
information
sharing
between
the
VPD
and
Vancouver
close
to
health
and
I.
Think
it's
quite
unique
in
the
province.
G
But
back
to
your
comment
earlier,
I
didn't
mention
around
the
discharge:
support
people
transitioning
out
of
acute
care.
If
you
look
at
our
phase
two
approach,
it
is
to
intensify
some
of
our
rap
problem
teams,
what
we
call
our
icmt
teams,
or
our
intensive
case
management
teams
to
really
support
increased
number
of
people
that
we
know
are
going
to
probably
struggle
that
we
want
to
make
sure
actually
have
that
support
around
it.
So
that
really
is
our
phase
two,
which
won't
come
down
the
line
for
some
time.
A
Here
great,
thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
Frye.
H
Thanks
mayor
yeah,
so
I'm
curious
about
public
facing
side
to
this.
Some
will
remember.
In
the
last
Council
session,
we
talked
about
Crisis,
Intervention
and
de-escalation
and
tools
for
the
public
to
intervene
so
where
we
see
shopkeepers
having
to
open
their
shop
in
the
morning
and
there's
somebody
sleeping
in
the
doorway,
for
instance,
or
somebody
who's
coming
into
a
shop
or
a
restaurant,
with
Mental
Health
crisis
and
and
how
we
can
better
equip
citizens
and
and
residents
and
shopkeepers
and
the
like.
E
Thank
you.
We
are
in
process
of
of
implementing
The
Better
Together,
neighborhood
collaboration
pilot
and
through
that
pilot,
we're
working
in
four
neighborhoods
and
providing
training
to
Bia
members
and
other
members
of
the
of
the
community
in
in
in
general,
information
around
homelessness,
intergenerational
trauma,
de-escalation
techniques
and
we're
doing
that
in
partnership
with
homelessness,
Services
Association
of
BC.
So
we
are
planning
an
update
to
Council
on
that
implementation
in
the
coming
months,
and
we
can
provide
more
information,
then
so.
E
Vch
is
invited
to
the
community
tables
in
those
in
those
pilot
neighborhoods
we're
kind
of
recreating
the
the
old
neighborhood
Integrated
Service
team
tables
there,
and
certainly
that's
something
we
can
explore.
Okay,.
H
And
and
sort
of,
and
follow
up
to
that,
how
are
we
connecting
some
of
this
work
with
some
of
our
other
Frontline
responders,
specifically
I,
know
and
Council
Boyle
and
I
met
with
the
Portland
Street
response
team
and
they're
operating
out
of
the
the
Portland
fire
rescue
and
similarly,
obviously,
we
have
ambulance
paramedics
who
are
attending.
J
H
E
O
H
F
Underway
it's
when
fire
attend
an
overdose
and
that
person
does
not
go
to
hospital
with
Vancouver
Coastal
Health
Outreach
staff,
they
they
will
attend
and
make
a
connection
to
that
person
in
the
days
following
the
overdose.
This
has
been
a
successful
program
in
being
able
to
engage
people
who
might
not
otherwise
be
engaged
in
care.
So
I
think
there
are
multiple.
This
is
another
way.
This
is
primarily
around
people
who
are
at
risk
of
of
Overdose
and
because
that's
the
the
type
of
clients
attended
by
Vancouver
fire
so
and
that
will
continue,
but.
F
F
There
is
and
that
there's
lots
of
work
underway
with
our
mental
health
and
substance
use
teams
to
integrate
the
work
that
we
do,
but
for
Vancouver
fire
in
particular.
They
are
responding
primarily
to
the
overdoses
so
that
when
they
connect
to
the
with
the
person
post
overdose,
that
person
may
require
Mental
Health
Services
as
well,
and
it
will
be
Vancouver
Coastal
Health's
responsibility
to
make
the
appropriate
connection
to
those
services.
H
A
J
Thanks
I'm,
just
hoping
to
follow
up
with
City
staff
on
the
question
of
of
implementing
the
healthy
City
strategy.
This
before
us
is
three
million
dollars
in
a
grant
now,
I
know
we
have
the
operating
budget
coming
up,
I'm,
just
wondering
in
recognition
of
the
the
scale
of
these
challenges.
What
other
Investments
could
we
be
looking
at
in
our
toolbox.
S
Mary
Claire's
act
managing
director
of
social
policy,
and
thank
you
for
the
question
so
just
to
elaborate
on
what
Dr
Daly
said,
one
of
the
things
that
she
always
says
that
I
always
repeat,
is
that
the
antidote
to
Mental
Health
crisis
is
early
childhood
education
and
supports,
and
those
that
are
culturally
safe
for
communities.
So
that's
something
that
we
should
always
be
investing
in
to
be
more
specific,
I.
Think
when
we're
looking
at
a
little
bit
more
Upstream,
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
income.
S
S
What
we're
doing
is
we're
looking
at
the
renewal
of
that
strategy,
so,
as
we
take
steps
to
to
do
that,
work
we'll
we'll
certainly
be
updating
you
and
working
closely
with
our
partners
at
Vancouver,
Coastal,
Health,
I.
Think.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
add
to
your
question
is
that
we
need
to
recognize
that
post
well,
we're
still
in
up
in
the
pandemic
and
we're
still
in
the
overdose
crisis
as
this
evolved,
but
people
on
the
lower
end
of
the
income
scale.
S
Those
who
are
living
in
poverty
actually
fared
much
worse
than
the
rest
of
us
in
lots
and
lots
of
different
ways.
So
I
think
when
we're
seeing
higher
incidents
of
Mental
Health
higher
numbers
of
people
on
the
street,
we
just
have
to
keep
that
in
mind
that
this
is
part
of
our
response
to
that
crisis
into
that
emergency.
J
Appreciate
that
my
last
question
might
also
be
for
you
no,
this
was
touched
on,
but
what
are
the
next
steps
in
terms
of
bringing
a
packed
program
to
Vancouver?
Well,.
S
Our
next
steps,
what
we've
done
so
far
is
we've
certainly
looked
at
all
the
other
programs
that
are
operating
in
the
province
and
elsewhere
and
evaluated
those
and
assess
those,
and
we've
done
some
research,
also
peer-based
research
on
what
are
some
of
the
things
and
components
and
elements
that
would
be.
You
know
important
for
people
in
terms
of
feeling
decriminalized
and
that
kind
of
thing.
So
our
next
steps
are
to
actually
work
with
Vancouver
Coastal,
Health
and
Canadian
Mental
Health
Association.
A
D
You
mayor
my
questions
are
to
the
Vancouver
Coastal
Health
folks.
D
First
of
all,
I
think
we
should
really
acknowledge
the
robust
response
we've
seen
both
from
the
Ministry
of
Health
and
from
the
coastal
health
staff
and
board
I
think
we
know
that
the
Genesis
of
of
this
of
this
initiative
fundamentally
arrived
at
a
campaign
promise
during
the
election
I
realize
that
I'm
sort
of
hearing
that
we
are
trying
to
adjust
our
approach
through
the
experience
of
covid
and
the
changing
nature
of
the
opioid
crisis
and
poison
drug
Supply.
D
F
Well,
first
of
all,
we
greatly
appreciate
the
funding
and
the
focus
on
here:
the
the
provincial
government,
the
ministry
of
mental
health,
Ministry
and
addictions.
The
Ministry
of
Health
have
been
making
investments
in
new
services
for
people
with
mental
health
challenges.
Substance
use
challenges,
but
the
need
is
great.
There's
much
more
work
to
be
done.
We've
seen
a
real
increase,
as
JJ
talked
about,
and
others
have
talked
about
in
people
presenting
to
our
hospitals
with
mental
health
issues.
F
Of
course,
we
have
growing
numbers
of
people
now
actually
at
risk
of
illicit
drug
toxicity
overdose,
even
though
over
11
000
people
have
died.
So
if
there
have
been
provincial
Investments
and
we
would
have
continued
to
make
those,
but
we
really
appreciate
these
Investments
as
well,
which
have
a
slightly
different
focus
and
focus
on
a
priority
for
the
city
of
Vancouver.
D
So,
just
further
to
that,
if
we
see
some
very
positive
results
from
this
program
and
I
heard
the
questions
around
data
collection,
would
this
be
something
you
would
consider
outside
of
the
city
of
Vancouver
and
some
of
the
other
municipalities
that
you
serve
under
Coastal
Health?
Well,.
F
At
the
announcement
last
weekend,
Minister
Whiteside,
actually
the
minister
of
mental
health
and
addiction,
said
that
she
is
quite
interested
and
she's
a
data
driven
person
in
the
evaluation
of
this
initiative,
as
it
may
help
inform
investments
in
other
locations
as
well,
and
many
municipalities
around
the
province
are
struggling
with
similar
populations.
Okay,.
D
I
have
one
more
question
for
you:
Dr
Daley
there's
been
a
number
of
criticisms
and
questions
around
the
Staffing
question
as
to
where
we're
going
to
find
the
the
human
resources
to
address
this
programming.
The
communication
I've
been
getting
from.
You
sounds
fairly
confident
that
being
able
to
hire
these
positions,
can
you
confirm
that
whether
you
are
applying
I
need
to
redeploy
existing
staff,
hire
new
staff
and
and
your
and
maybe
re-emphasize
your
level
of
confidence
and
being
able
to
staff
these
positions?
Well,.
F
I
think
what
I've
said
in
Bob
Chapman
alluded
to
this.
It
will
take
time
to
fill
these
positions.
We
do
have
a
a
health
human
resource
crisis
in
BC.
We
also
have
a
very
robust
plan
to
address
that
put
forward
from
Minister
Dix,
and
we
do
know
that
the
the
staff
who
are
interested
in
this
type
of
work,
for
example,
the
nurses,
are
different
than
those
nurses
who
may
want
to
work
in
an
operating
room
or
a
primary
care
clinic
they're,
a
very,
very
committed
staff
to
our
current
programs.
F
D
A
Thank
you
very
much,
seeing
no
more
questions
I'd
like
to
remind
speakers
that
they
have
five
minutes
to
make
their
comments
should
State
whether
they
are
in
support
or
in
opposition
of
the
recommendations
and
may
only
speak
once
council
members
have
up
to
three
minutes
to
ask
questions
to
speakers.
However,
speakers
are
under
no
obligation
to
respond.
I
will
also
ask
if
the
speakers
are
residents
of
Vancouver.
If
it
is
not
noted
on
the
speakers
list,
we'll
now
hear
from
our
only
registered
speaker,
Stacy
Anton
Stacy,
are
you
on
the
phone.
T
Awesome
so
I'm
Stacy
Ashton
I'm
from
the
BC
Crisis
Line
Network,
and
the
vancouver-based
crisis
center
I
I'm
I
am
not
a
resident
of
Vancouver,
but
I
work
in
Vancouver
and
I'm
gonna,
say
other
in
terms
of
of
of
of
opposed
or
supportive.
So
I
really
want
to
thank
the
council
for
the
for
adapting
your
initial
motion
to
include
rooting.
Mental
Health
crisis
calls
through
crisis
lines
and
investing
in
civilian-led
Mental,
Health
crisis
teams.
T
I
know
those
aren't
the
sections
of
the
motion
under
consideration
today,
but
as
you're,
seeing
in
the
approach
that
Vancouver
Coastal
Health
is
is
is
is
putting
forward.
That
is
the
vision
that
they
have
in
reviewing
their
recommendations.
The
thing
that
stands
out
most
is
that
only
10
full-time
employees
are
requested
for
co-response
police
psychiatric
nurse
teams,
which
is
a
lot
less
than
the
100
psychiatric
nurses
that
were
envisioned
by
the
original
motion
and
that
32
of
the
58
fdas
recommended
are
specifically
for
non-police
de-escalation
units.
This
is
not
surprising.
T
In
September,
2022
The
Province
commissioned
a
rapid
investigation
into
repeat
offending
and
random
stranger
violence.
These
are
the
these.
Are
the
individuals
that
that
are
the
basis
of
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
this
Council
has
brought
forward?
That
report
made
it
clear
and
it
was
based
on
VPD
statistics
interviews
with
Vancouver
Police
Crown
councils,
mental
health
professionals
that
increased
policing,
including
car
8788
car
co-responses,
does
does
not
actually
end
up
with
the
small
minority
of
individuals
whose
mental
illness
or
substance
use
issues
result
in
violence
being
served.
T
Well,
the
the
tendency
is
to
bring
those
folks
to
hospitals
and
the
hospitals.
Don't
have
the
ability
to
resolve
the
issue,
as
Mr
Chapman
said
folks
who
come
inactivated
by
substance,
use
tend
to
be
discharged
once
they
become
calm,
but
according
to
the
rapid
investigation
report,
those
people
are
at
most
at
risk.
In
the
best
case
they
survive
to
be
picked
up
by
a
car.
Again.
T
Most
people
are
brought
who
are
brought
to
hospital
under
a
mental
health.
Apprehension
are
non-violent,
but
they're
treated
as
though
they
might
become
violent
at
any
time.
Direct
911
police
diversion
of
the
source
is
a
place
where
city
council
can
make
a
difference.
T
Your
city
contracts
with
Ecom
9-1-1
the
protocols
that
guide
what
kind
of
calls
are
dispatched
to
police
versus
other
responses
are
under
City
jurisdiction
in
Toronto,
the
city
worked
with
their
police
department
and
staff
to
build
the
referral
protocols
to
the
24
7
Toronto
Community
crisis
service,
and
that
pathway
goes
from
9-1-1
to
a
crisis
line
which
allows
phone-based.
De-Escalation,
as
the
starting
place,
the
bottom
line
is,
is
if
we
continue
equipping
authorizing
and
resourcing
to
police,
to
respond
to
Mental
Health
crisis,
they
will
remain
our
main
Frontline
mental
health,
caregivers.
T
We
know
this
isn't
effective,
but
once
you're
the
one
during
the
front
line
work,
it
is
very
hard
to
know
when
it's
not
your
job
you're
hearing
from
your
community
or
health
authorities
and
from
your
own
police
officers
that
we
need
a
different
path.
I
encourage
you
to
revisit
the
commitment
you've
made
to
policing
Solutions
in
light
of
the
recommendations
you're
seeing
from
Vancouver
Coastal
Health,
and
also
to
build
out
that
pathway
from
9-1-1
and
police
to
police
Alternatives.
Thank
you.
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
think
I
might
have
referred
to
you
as
Stacy
Anton.
If
I
did
that
I
I
I
apologize,
it's
Stacey
Ashton
and
you
have
questions
from
counselor
Carr.
M
A
thanks
so
much
Stacy
for
calling
in
I
really
appreciate
that
and
the
work
that
you
do.
You
didn't
and
I
know
you
outlined
I
think
some
options
really
well
here,
but
I
would
appreciate
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
right
now
currently
in
terms
of
diverted
calls.
M
What
is
your
Carl
call
Val
volume
in
our
in
our
region
and
and
if
you
could
provide
an
estimate
of
how
many
of
those
calls
resolve
in
sort
of
the
de-escalation
of
the
situation,
to
the
point
where
no
other
First
Responders
are
required
to
to
attend.
T
So
we
received
calls
currently
directly
from
community
Through,
the
310
6789
number
and
the
1-800
suicide
number,
and
about
1.5
percent
of
the
calls
we
get
require
some
kind
of
in-person
intervention.
T
We
are
only
the
only
thing
available
to
us
right
now
is
9-1-1
and
that
tendency
is
to
go
through
police
and
and
in
half
the
times
that
we
do
have
to
call
for
an
in-person
intervention.
It
is
by
the
caller's
consent
they
are
prepared
for
the
intervention
they
are
non-violent
and
but
the
the
outcome
is
the
same:
they're
still
seeing
a
police
officer
on
the
on
their
front
step
or
at
their
door
and
and
having
to
go
through
that
process.
T
T
Volume
of
calls
right
now.
Oh
sorry,
our
volume
we
are
in
Vancouver
we're
taking
45
we're
receiving
a
hundred
thousand
calls
a
year,
we're
answering
45
000
calls
a
year.
We
expect
that.
That's
where
we're
having
the
capacity
crunch.
T
The
investment
that
we're
seeing
in
other
parts
of
the
mental
health
system
and
policing
system
to
create
safer
communities
is
not
necessarily
showing
up
on
to
enhance
Crisis
Line
capacity,
which
is
unfortunate
because
we
do
have
an
incredibly
High
de-escalation
rate
and
a
success
rate
and
working
with
folks
in
Mental
Health
crisis
and.
M
Are
you
working
with
Vancouver
Coastal
Health
in
terms
of
being
one
option
around
emergency
response.
T
We're
working
with
the
provincial
health
authority
right
now
and
I
would
love
to
see
crisis
lines
be
at
more
of
these
tables.
We
we
tend
to
be
because
we're
open
access
to
everyone
I
think
we
tend
to
be
used
quite
often,
but
not
at
not
used
strategically
in
the
way
that
we
should
be
to.
A
You
thank
you
very
much,
okay,
so
seeing
no
further
questions.
This
is
the
end
of
our
speakers
list
for
this
item.
Thank
you
for
addressing
counsel.
Would
someone
like
to
move
a
motion?
Counselor
dominado,
thank
you
as
their
secondary
counselor
Kirby
young.
Thank
you
council.
Is
there
any
discussion
and
I
see
counselor
oil
Europe.
J
Thanks
I
want
to
thank
the
Vancouver,
Coastal
team
and
and
the
whole
team
they've
worked
with
for
bringing
back
such
a
thoughtful,
comprehensive
response.
J
I
think
you
know
we
all
Wrestle
with
witnessing
our
neighbors
struggling
around
us
and
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
right
responses
are
and
and
of
course,
like
so
many
issues
we
wrestle
with
at
the
local
level,
knowing
it's
not
traditionally
in
our
jurisdiction,
but
these
are
our
neighbors
and
and
they
need
our
support
and
so
really
appreciate
the
the
whole
array
of
responses
that
you've
brought
back
to
us.
Based
on
your
your
deep
knowledge
and
expertise.
J
The
expertise
of
your
teams
on
this
work,
I
and
I
really
appreciate
the
way
that
you
have
fit.
This
recommendation
into
our
broader
work
in
implementing
the
healthy
City
strategy
and
the
connection
to
those
important
Upstream
Investments
as
part
of
a
comprehensive
approach.
I
particularly
am
glad
to
see
that
spectrum
of
services
and
just
want
to
recognize
counselor
Fry's
Amendment
to
the
initial
report
in
in
and
our
caller
Stacy
Ashton's
input.
The
and
the
community
work
in
recognizing
that
broad
Continuum
of
supports
that
are
needed.
J
That
we
see
a
good
portion
of
outlined
in
this
report,
I
think
that's
really
important.
I
also
I'm
glad
to
see
a
robust
evaluation
in
it
again.
I
think
in
wanting
to
find
solutions
to
these
challenges
and
and
help
support
the
people
struggling
most,
that
evaluation
and
adjustments
are
really
important,
and
so
I
was
glad
to
bring
that
Amendment
forward
to
the
initial
motion
and
see
it
supported
unanimously.
J
I
think
those
are
all
improvements
that
will
get
us
to
actual
solutions
to
the
challenges
that
we
face
and
I'm
grateful
to
be
working
with
Partners
who,
who
are
so
committed
to
this
work
to
to
see
it
happen
so
happy
to
support
it.
I
Kirby
young
yeah
thanks
mayor
I,
just
want
to
start
by
thanking
all
of
the
staff
that
worked
on
this
and
I
both
at
the
city
of
Vancouver,
but
also
particularly
our
partners
from
Coastal
Health,
Vancouver
PD
and
everybody
that
has
input
into
it
and
extraordinary
times
do
require
Extraordinary
Measures
and,
as
was
referenced
by
some
of
the
health
professionals
from
Coastal
Health.
I
That,
while
we
do
see
a
lot
of
these
issues
starting
to
become
more
prevalent,
some
other
cities
that
they
are
acute
in
the
city
of
Vancouver
and
in
the
inner
city,
particularly
and
I,
think
that
this
action
and
unprecedented
I
could
say.
I
And
it's
bold
really
speaks
to
the
fact
that
we
have
a
crisis
level
of
folks
that
are
falling
through
the
cracks
in
our
city
and
a
desire
to
ensure
that
they
are
provided
with
help
and
support,
but
that
we
are
also
working
to
mitigate
the
increasing
impacts
that
we
see
of
those
folks
that
are
falling
through
the
cracks
in
general.
On
Everybody's,
Health
and
well-being
in
the
city
of
Vancouver.
I.
I
Because
that's
where
people
fall
through
the
gaps
when
they're
in
acute
crisis
or
perhaps
when
they
may
be
ready
for
help,
and
they
don't
know
how
to
find
it
or
there's
an
interim
Gap
until
they
can
get
into
services
and
treatment
and
I.
Think
that's
really.
A
recognition
of
this
I
do
think
that
this
is
a
very
balanced
approach.
It
centers
a
lot
of
indigenous
knowledge
and
perspective
and
a
recognition
of
our
indigenous
peoples
being
the
most
impacted
segment
disproportionately
in
the
city
of
Vancouver
and
I'm,
proud
that
council's
taking
this
action.
I
I
Think
I'm
going
to
make
note
of
and
ask
people
for,
is
a
bit
of
faith
and
patience
as
we're
going
down
a
new
route
that
it
will
be
iterative
and
develop,
and
we
hear
from
our
partners
at
VPD
and
in
fact,
from
the
Social
Service
Partners
themselves
that
two-thirds
of
I
think
roughly
of
the
number
of
the
initiative.
Mental
health
calls
actually
come
from
a
mental
health
professional
who
are
not
comfortable
attending
on
their
own.
I
So
to
me
it's
never
been
an
either
or
that
it's
you
know
you
know,
police
response
is
bad
or
a
mental
health.
One
is
the
only
one.
It's
actually
a
combination
of
being
able
to
have
a
broad-based
set
of
tools
where
we
can
deploy
the
appropriate
resources
as
best
we
can
and
there's
calibration
in
that
in
terms
of
trying
to
affect
the
right
balance
on
that.
But
obviously
it's
I
think
a
happy
situation
when
we
can
find
that
non-police
response,
or
we
can
de-escalate
people
before
they
get
into
that
acute
level
of
Crisis.
I
I
Also,
the
province's
investment
and
stepping
up
with
us
here,
and
hopefully
this
will
be
a
model
that
can
be
extrapolated
out
to
other
cities
so
that
we
can
actually
work
to
mitigate
some
of
these
problems
and
I
I
hope
to
see
some
of
those
stats
start
to
show
some
downward
Trend
in
some
of
the
acute
outcomes
such
as
hospital
visits
and
people
that
just
have
had
this
sort
of
recurring,
almost
revolving
door,
if
you
will
sometimes
through
hospitals,
but
we
haven't
been
able
to
get
them
to
a
better
place.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
I
guess!
That's
me.
Do
you
have
to
see
that
I
have
to
see
the
chair?
Don't
talk?
Can
I,
please
see
the
chair
to
counselor
Carr
awesome.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
do
think
it's
hard
to
over
emphasize
the
gravity
of
this
Grant
and
the
positive
impact
that
it
will
have
on
our
community
and
yeah
it
it
it's
bold.
It's
a
new
way
of
thinking
and
it's
going
to
be
hard.
I
think
we
need
to
acknowledge
that.
A
But
that's
okay,
because
you
know
we're
living
in
challenging
times
and
we
have
a
lot
of
challenges,
so
rethink
rethinking
the
way
we
do
things
and
acknowledging
it's
going
to
be
hard.
That's,
okay
and
we
have
an
opportunity
to
set
a
new
standard
in
North
America
for
a
modern
and
a
compassionate
approach
towards
addressing
complex
issues.
A
You
know
when
it
comes
to
public
health
and
safety,
and
this
actually
strengthens.
You
know
our
sorry
indigenous
approaches
to
how
we
deal
with
these
mental
health
challenges
as
well
in
a
more
culturally
appropriate
manner.
So
I
I
think
this
is
absolutely
great.
Obviously
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
it.
I
do
believe
that
this
is
another
example
of
how
governments
different
levels,
the
government.
A
You
know
they
can
highlight
challenges
and
we
can
put
partisanship
aside
and
we
can
deal
with
what
residents
want
us
to
deal
with
and
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
all
the
incredible
work
that
Vancouver
Coastal,
the
VPD
have
done
on
this
you've
taken
the
the
ball
and
you've
run
with
it
and
you've
put
a
lot
of
thought
and
hard
work
into
it
and
really
appreciate
it.
Also,
do
you
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
pre
Premier
Evie
and
the
BC
government
for
their
leadership
and
and
helping
us
with
this
and
embracing
it?
A
This
wouldn't
have
been
possible
without
them
as
well.
So
you
know
I
I'm.
You
know
I
I'm,
super
optimistic
that
you
know
this.
This
initiative
is
gonna.
You
know
it's
a
great
step
forward
in
dealing
with
the
challenges
that
we
have
and
I
couldn't
be
more
thankful
to
everything,
like
all
the
hard
work
that
you've
put
into
this.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
Can
I
get
the
chair
back.
Please
I
just
have
to
press
the
button
there.
Thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
Bly.
K
Thanks
very
much
mayor
yeah,
so
I
just
want
to
add
my
voice
to
the
list
of
people.
Groups,
stakeholders
that
need
acknowledgment
and
I.
Think
part
of
that
too,
is
vancouverites,
who
heard
a
very
loud
and
clear
sort
of
bold
different
approach
to
how
we
could
tackle
some
of
the
most
critical
challenges
in
our
city,
which
is
related
to
Mental
Health
crisis,
particularly
with
vulnerable
folks,
and
seeing
that
there
could
be
a
Better
Way
Forward
than
what
we've
been
currently
doing.
K
K
So
all
that
to
say
I
think
that
the
courage
that
it
takes
to
look
at
a
very
complex
Challenge
and
try
something
new
in
a
very
public
way
can't
be
understated
and
they
are.
K
It
is
our
health
partners
that
are
taking
this
and
also
to
The
Vancouver
Police
Department,
for
also
recognizing
the
need
to
modernize
our
response
to
mental
health,
calls
and
crises,
and
and
how
again,
we
can
continue
to
partner
and
go
beyond
the
rhetoric
that
we
hear
publicly,
which
can
oftentimes
lack
empathy
and
compassion
and
understanding
for
what's
really
going
on.
K
So
you
know
I
really
appreciate
that
what
this
report
brings
forward,
what
this
grant
does
is
no
more
status
quo.
It's
elevating
our
response,
I
think
we're
going
to
learn
a
lot
this
year
and
so
I
really
look
forward
to
regular
updates
as
much
as
possible
so
that
it's
not
just
a
decision
that
happens
today
that
then
we
move
on
to
other
things
and
take
our
eye
off.
K
That
ball,
like
I,
really
think
that
this
requires
regular
updates
and
leaning
into
how
things
are
going,
whether
it's
the
the
response
through
911
calls
and
how
the
public
comes
to
understand
responses
or
that
those
Outreach
programs,
or
what
it's
like
to
connect
with
operators
in
sros,
and
how
that
this
could
provide
different
and
better
options
for
those
operators
to
deal
with
some
of
the
complex
challenges
that
they
deal
with
on
a
regular
basis.
K
There's
so
much
to
learn
from
this
program
and
to
my
colleague's
point
and
I've
spoken
to
many
other
municipalities,
Toronto
Montreal
they're,
watching
to
see
what
the
outcomes
of
this
program
could
really
be
in
the
impacts.
The
positive
impact
so
I
think
that
that
is
all
great.
The
last
thing
I'll
say
is
my
takeaway
from
this
conversation
is
we
need
to
to
figure
out
a
way
to
find
some
space.
I
can't
say
enough:
how
much
I
have
heard
about
this.
K
On
every
level
we
supported
emotion
for
a
recovery,
Community
Center
that
was
focused
on
people
who
are
looking
for
other
options,
looking
for
more
Outreach,
but
also
looking
for
somewhere,
where
they
can
find
supports
that
give
them
more
agency,
more
Choice,
even
more
sort
of
personal,
some
opportunity
where
they
can
gain
some
control
back
in
their
lives,
and
that's
what
we
really
see
I
think
happening
in
in
our
downtown
east
side,
but
across
the
city
entirely.
K
So
space
I
would
love
to
say
that
coming
out
of
this
conversation
with
mayor
Sim
and
our
entire
counselors
around
the
table
here
that
we
look
to
see
how
we
can
Elevate
this
program,
so
we
don't
do
the
60
that
we
can
take
it
all
the
way
to
100
and
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
the
the
broader
need,
which
is
to
give
people
a
place
to
land
that
they
can
get
the
supports
and
come
back
to.
So
it
can
really
make
the
biggest
difference
to
them
in
their
long-term
recovery,
so
I'll
leave
it
there.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilor
Carr.
M
Acknowledged
I
mean
we
are
all
aware
that
this
is
an
escalating
crisis
and
it's
not
just
a
mental
health
crisis.
I
mean
the
toxic
drug
situation
has
exacerbated
it
phenomenally
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
the
response
is
the
the
way
we
come
about.
Creating
Solutions
is
difficult,
I
mean
there's
so
many
different
angles
that
that
have
to
be
taken
on
this
and
I.
Think
that
the
approach
taken
in
this
report
is
a
good
one.
M
It's
a
it's,
not
the
only
one
and
much
more
needs
to
be
done,
but
it's
a
good
one.
In
terms
of
much
more
needing
to
be
done,
you
know,
I
I
was
working.
We
had
a
store
in
in
Gastown
when
Riverview
was
de-institutionalized.
There
was
a
dramatic
overnight
change
in
Gastown,
with
people
ending
up
on
the
street,
with
their
families
couldn't
take
care
of
them,
and
that's
that's
where
they
ended
up.
M
I
I
do
think
the
conversation
is
starting
to
happen
around.
How
does
how
do
we
support
long-term
support
and
care
for
people?
That
was
a
great
article
actually
in
the
Bank
of
her
son
around
this
just
this
weekend.
M
I
want
to
really
thank
the
mayor
and
the
counselors
that
put
forward
this.
This
motion
and
the
Amendments
that
that
were
made
at
the
council
table
for
wanting
to
take
on
this
it
it's
not
a
traditional
responsibility
of
the
city,
but
you
all
recognize
that
it
is
our
jurisdiction,
because
it's
the
people
that
live
in
this
city
that
are
suffering
and
our
role
needs
to
be
to
try
and
solve
it.
Obviously,
in
Partnership,
but
as
I
say,
thank
you
for
for
that
initiative.
M
I
want
to
thank
the
the
our
staff
and
and
Vancouver
Coastal
Health
for
I.
Think
I,
really
a
solid
good
response.
That's
feasible
I
mean
we,
you
know
with
it's,
not
just
a
matter
of
resources.
It's
it's
the
this.
How
many
nurses
are
there
out
there?
How
many
Health
Care
Professionals
of
various
backgrounds
are
there
to
be
able
to
apply
to
this?
M
So
it's
something
I
realize
that's
going
to
have
to
be
ramped
up
over
time
and
I
really
want
to
thank
the
provincial
government
for
investing
in
response
to
this
in
investing
or
putting
forward
some
some
extra
money
now
and
I
think
they
recognize.
There's
got
to
be
a
lot
more
over
time
too,
and
we're
not
the
only
city
that
is
coping
with
this,
so
that's
it
for
me.
Thank
you
happy
to
support.
Thank.
P
Thanks
mayor
and
I
will
Echo
the
thanks.
That's
been
offered
by
my
colleagues
to
our
staff
to
the
partners
who
are
here
with
Vancouver,
Coastal,
Health
and
and
BPD,
as
well
as
the
provincial
government
in
in
supporting
these
efforts,
a
couple
of
additional
Reflections
to
those
already
made
by
my
colleagues.
P
It's
become
clear
and
not
just
in
recent
months
in
the
last
year,
but
I
think
when
many
of
us
were
first
elected
in
2018
about
what
a
profound
need
there
was
in
the
city
and
and
that
fundamentally
we
had
a
health
need
in
our
city
and
and
the
healthy
City
strategy
was
reference.
But
I
know
from
my
perspective.
At
the
outset,
I've
always
believed
that
we
needed
a
broader
Health
response.
P
I
was
reflecting
back
to
at
the
time
contentious
motion
because
we
were
grappling
with
the
Oppenheimer
encampments
and
then
later
the
the
Strathcona
encampments.
How
pronounced
that
need
became
in
those
contexts,
and
we
I
know
former
counselor,
weeb
and
I
brought
a
motion
trying
to
look
at.
How
could
the
cardi
788
model
be
expanded,
but
also
calling
for
additional
wraparound
services?
P
And
that's
why
I'm
really
pleased
by
the
framework
that
Vancouver
Coastal
Health
has
presented,
because
it
IT
addresses
a
number
of
those
issues
that
were
identified
a
number
of
years
ago,
including
as
Dr
Daley
referenced?
You
know
the
doubling
of
cardi
788,
but
also,
if
you
look
at
the
sheer
number
of
ftes
going
towards
the
de-escalation
teams
again,
this
was
another
area
that
we
heard
very
clearly
that
the
public
wanted
to
see.
But
also
other
Professionals
in
this
field
are
saying
is
that
we
need
a
Continuum
of
service
response.
P
There
are
going
to
be
times
when
we
need
a
higher
order
of
response,
but
other
times
when
we
need
teams
in
there
who
can
help
de-escalate
and-
and
we,
as
as
noted,
a
number
of
us
met
with
the
Canadian
Mental
Health
Association
over
a
number
of
years,
looking
at
the
packed
model
because
of
There's
an
opportunity
here
to
provide
a
range
of
services
and
response
that
meet
the
needs
of
residents
who
are
really
clearly
in
distress
and
and
that's
what
I
heard
time
and
time
again
was
I
heard
the
public
expressing
concern
and
compassion
and
that
they
didn't
know
how
to
help
they.
P
They
were
some.
You
know
they
didn't
know
who
to
call
in
many
cases
has
been
referred
to,
and
so
this
is
a
really
important
step
forward
and
what
I
also
heard
through
all
the
discourse
that
we
had
with
residents
with
organizations
with
bias
with
Community
was
the
importance
of
collaboration
and
partnership
and
that
certainly
reflected
in
The
Proposal.
P
That's
been
brought
forward
by
Vancouver
Coastal
Health
to
the
city
is
the
importance
of
working
in
Partnership
and-
and
it's
been
alluded
to-
is
that
that
typically,
this
isn't
seen
as
an
area
that
is
a
city's
jurisdiction
and
certainly
Health
still
resides
as
a
you
know,
provincial
jurisdiction
as
well
as
partly
Federal.
P
However,
the
lines
are
increasingly
getting
blurred
and
I
think
there
is
a
bigger
conversation
that
needs
to
happen
provincially
and
nationally
around
how
Urban
cities
like
Vancouver,
like
Montreal,
like
Toronto
as
councilor
Bly
noted,
are
supported
in
dealing
with
these
issues
because
they
are
complex,
they're
nuanced
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
simply
want
to
support
these
individuals
who
are
struggling
because
in
fact,
they're
members
of
our
families
they're
our
friends,
they're
people
we
know,
and
so
for
all
these
Reasons
I'm
incredibly
grateful
for
the
work
to
bring
this
framework
forward
to
council,
to
the
support
of
my
Council
colleagues,
because
there's
urgency
and
I
think
we've
known
that
for
some
time,
but
we're
we're
seeing
an
initiative
here.
P
That
I
think
holds
great
hope
and
I
appreciate
the
evaluation
component
of
it.
Because
then
we
will
get
a
sense
of
is
it
meeting
the
needs?
Is
it
serving
the
intended
goals
and
outcomes,
and
so
I
simply
will
say
as
again.
Thank
you.
I
think
this
is
much
needed,
there's
urgency
and
very
appreciative
of
all
the
effort
that
has
gone
into
bringing
this
forward
to
Vancouver.
D
Come
here
and
thanks
to
my
colleagues,
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
recurring
themes
here:
councilor
Carr
and
constant
dominato
really
talking
about
areas
jurisdiction.
D
You
know
I,
think
it's
really
fair
to
say
that
through
a
whole
range
of
measures
and
investments
in
infrastructure,
the
cities
have
an
extraordinarily
vital
role
to
play
in
supporting
and
enhancing
the
health
of
our
communities
and
our
citizens.
And
so,
even
though
this
particular
investment
has
been
framed
as
being
unprecedented
and
unique,
I
think
it
actually
furthers
our
the
health
and
well-being
of
vancouverites.
D
And
while
we
announced
this
original
idea
of
hiring
100
mental
health
nurses
on
the
campaign,
Trail
I
think
a
lot
of
credit
has
to
go
to
both
City
staff
and
Vancouver
Coastal
Health.
For
taking
this
idea
this
this.
This
goal
that
that
voters
responded
to
and
turning
it
into
a
very
actionable
and
and
well-defined
set
of
goals,
teams
and
and
hiring
strategy.
That
I
think
will
lead
to
success.
D
I'm
hopeful
that
it
will
bring
positive
change
that
we'll
be
able
to
look
back
in
a
year
or
year
and
a
half
time
and
be
able
to
take
away
the
the
the
the
outcomes
of
the
work.
That's
being
done
here
and
look
back
and
say
that
this
is
a
very
good
decision.
And
so
again,
thanks
to
both
the
minister
of
Health,
minister
of
mental
health
and
addictions,
the
premier
and
our
our
partners
at
Coastal
Health
and
our
staff
here
at
city
of
Vancouver
I.
D
Think
we
are
on
to
I
think
a
really
important
initiative.
That
Vancouver
is
leading
the
way
on
thanks.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilor
Frye
thanks.
H
I
do
I
really
appreciate
where
this
direction
has
landed,
since
the
motion
was
first
introduced
in
November
and
I
think
it's
reflective
of
a
lot
of
the
collaborative
work
at
this
Council
and
really
learning
and
and
listening
to
The
Experts,
and
so
thank
you
to
Coastal,
Health
and
and
our
own
staff
for
really
kind
of
leaning
in
and
and
giving
this
kind
of,
an
advanced
Direction
and
working
with
Vancouver,
Police,
Department
I
know
Fiona
is
here
somewhere,
yeah
and
and
just
working
together
on
a
collaborative
solution
that
recognizes
that.
H
I
I
will,
however,
just
put
my
UBC
hat
on
for
a
minute
and
reflect
that
this
is
a
space
where
local
governments
have
been
struggling
across
our
Province
and
a
multi-million
in
a
multi-million
dollar.
Investment
in
mental
health
is
not
necessarily
an
investment
that
other
local
governments
like
Victoria,
like
Prince
George,
like
Terrace
and
others
can
afford
to
make,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
this
move
has
raised
a
few
eyebrows
with
some
of
our
colleagues
in
local
governments
across
BC
and
I.
H
Just
you
know
want
to
reflect
that
that
this
is
great
that
we're
doing
this,
but
this
is
an
important
initiative
that
the
province
has
to
take
on
as
well,
and
this
can't
be
just
the
the
local
governments
that
can
afford
the
resources
to
do
this
kind
of
work.
H
It's
clear
that
that
and
I
and
I
hope
that
this
sort
of
pilot
work
that
we're
doing
here
will
set
a
tone
and
a
stage
for
the
province
to
really
meaningfully
invest
in
in
alternate
interventions
for
folks
who
are
really
struggling
with
with
mental
health
and
addictions
and
Crisis
Intervention
and
de-escalation
and
I'm
and
I'm
really
hopeful
around
this
kind
of
New
Direction.
H
Is
that
we're
taking
with
the
escalation
Crisis
Intervention,
because
I
think
that
we've
seen
the
evidence
from
other
jurisdictions
that
that's
the
way
to
go
and
I
really
want
to
see
us
move
forward
on
on
some
of
this
sort
of
Crisis
respite
centers?
H
That
we've
talked
about
and
making
spaces
available
for
folks,
because
I
think
that's
the
missing
piece
here
and
we've
talked
about
it
today
and
I
think
moving
forward,
that's
going
to
be
a
critical
intervention,
but
on
the
whole
I
think
this
is
good
for
Vancouver
and
thanks
to
everybody
who
participated
in
putting
this
all
together.
So.
H
A
Very
much
okay,
a
reminder
that
any
council
member
joining
Brew
everyone's
here
so
I
can
skip
that
can't
I,
okay,
so
we're
gonna
put
it
to
a
vote.
A
Okay,
the
motion
passes
unanimously.
A
A
Dave,
where
are
we
here
and
by
the
way?
Thank
you
very
much
for
letting
us
go
through
that
motion
before
the
presentation
we
have
Andrea
law,
general
manager,
Development,
building
and
Licensing
here
to
provide
opening
remarks.
U
Well,
really
excited
to
be
here
today
to
present
an
update
on
the
permitting
and
Licensing
program.
In
addition,
we
have
Theresa
O'donnell,
who
will
be
here
to
update
on
the
rezoning
process
as
well,
so
before
I
begin
I,
just
wanna
really
thank
the
the
effort
from
many
teams
across
the
organization,
DBL
engineering
and
PDS,
for
contributing
to
the
immense
amount
of
work
that
we're
going
to
share
with
you
today.
U
So
the
objective
of
today's
presentation
is
to
update
Council
on
the
various
work
components
underway
to
improve,
permitting
licensing,
as
well
as
our
rezoning
process
for
discussion
today.
We'll
provide
a
brief
overview
of
our
permitting
and
Licensing
program,
some
of
the
challenges
and
opportunities.
Some
of
the
key
initiatives
that
have
recently
been
completed,
we'll
share
our
work
plan
for
2023
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Teresa
to
provide
an
update
on
metrics
and
trends
for
rezoning,
so
permanent
licensing
overview.
Why
do
we
issue
permits
and
licenses?
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As
council
is
aware,
the
city
relies
on
permits
and
licenses
to
implement
Implement
a
range
of
important
policy
objectives.
However,
over
time,
the
complexity
of
the
policy
framework
that
has
been
developed
has
increased
greatly
and
the
effort
and
time
associated
with
administering
it.
So
this
is
the
fundamental
challenge
that
is
being
addressed
through
this
program.
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So
I'm
going
to
touch
briefly
on
the
end-to-end
process
of
development
in
Vancouver,
so
the
approval
to
construct
a
new
building
depending
on
the
scope
of
the
building,
can
vary
and
can
include
many
permits
and
steps
along
the
way
an
applicant
may
or
may
not
go
through
all
of
the
above
steps
or
a
subset
of
the
steps,
depending
on
the
project
complexity.
So
this
high
level
overview
starts
at
the
rezoning
process,
the
handoff
to
development,
permit
then
to
building
permit
and
ultimately
to
occupancy
and
business
license.
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So
development
permits
versus
building
permits.
What
is
the
difference?
Difference
at
a
very
high
level
development
permit
allows
for
the
permission
to
develop
the
land
according
to
land,
use,
approval
and
policy,
and
the
building
permit
grants
permission
to
build
or
renovate
a
building
under
the
prescribed
bylaw
and
in
compliance
with
the
approval.
That's
given
through
land
use.
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Application
streams,
so
we
have
multiple
permit
application
streams
that
are
tailored
to
project
type.
Over
the
years,
we've
created
more
and
more
project
streams,
of
necessity
coming
from
Council
policy
processes,
new
regulations,
so
over
time
these
have
become
more
and
more
layered
and
more
and
more
complex.
So
we
try
to
create
buckets
of
similar
types
of
applications
that
we
can
manage
more
appropriately,
setting
up
processing
timelines
Associated
to
those
applications
dreams.
So
over
the
years,
I
can
recall
a
time
when
we
had
two
development
permit
streams,
one
for
Majors
one
for
non-majors.
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So,
as
you
can
see
with
the
multiplex
regulations
that
are
coming
before
Council,
we,
we
are
now
creating
a
separate
stream
to
address
those
types
of
projects.
We
also
have
a
new
program
called
direct
to
inspections,
which
I'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
later.
So
as
we
as
we
evolve
as
a
department
and
organization,
we
we
are
required
to
create
new
permit
streams
to
address
the
workflow
and
the
project,
scope.
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So,
just
briefly
on
our
licensing
streams,
City
administers
over
600
different
types
of
business
licenses,
everything
from
a
general
retail
business,
opening
up
to
short-term
rentals
vehicle
for
hire,
liquor
and
cannabis.
As
some
examples.
Many
of
the
licenses
we
issue
have
provincial
regulatory
oversight
as
well,
so
we
are
required
to
get
reviews
through
the
province
to
get
compliance
and
and
actually
ultimately
issue
some
of
these
licenses.
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90
of
the
business
licenses
that
we
issue
on
an
annual
basis
fall
into
the
simple
category
and
then
10
percent
fall
into
a
more
complex
category.
These
can
involve,
as
I
mentioned,
Coastal
Health,
Vancouver,
Police
zoning
and
building
reviews,
Plumbing
electrical
and
other
trades.
So
these
so
an
example
of
that
would
be
somebody
coming
in
to
apply
for
a
restaurant.
The
space
was
previously
approved
as
retail,
so
we
know
that
there's
going
to
be
implications
for
Coastal
Health.
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We
know
there's
going
to
be
implications
under
zoning
and
building,
so
those
types
of
processes
can
take
longer
and
those
are
the
ones
that
typically
may
get
escalated
to
council.
If,
if
business
operators
weren't
aware
of
the
changes
or
the
necessary
requirements
to
get
a
business
license
issued,
so
it
can
be
fairly
complex,
so
I'm
just
going
to
touch
on
some
of
the
challenges
and
opportunities.
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We
have
more
than
650
policy
documents
governing
development,
which
creates
confusion
not
only
for
our
applicants
but
for
staff
who
are
managing
the
program.
Application
quality
can
substantially
vary.
We
have
very
sort
of
set
what
we
would
consider
Savvy
applicants
who
have
been
working
in
City
Vancouver
for
many
many
years
who
have
no
problem,
navigating
our
programs
and
processes,
and
then
we
have
applicants
who
are
new
to
the
city
and
may
struggle
to
understand
not
only
our
regulatory
framework
but
how
we
process
our
applications,
so
application
quality
is
something
that
we
have
addressed.
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It's
not
a
unique
to
Vancouver
problem.
Many
other
municipalities
that
we've
been
communicating
with
over
the
past
18
months
are
struggling
with
the
same
problem
variability
in
number
of
permits
per
year.
So
we
try
and
stay
ahead
of
this
with
our
external
partners
and
looking
ahead
as
much
as
we
can
what's
happening
in
the
economy
to
to
judge
what,
if
we're
going
to
see,
permit
volumes
increase,
we
also
have
issues
with
staff.
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
a
scalable
Workforce.
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We
do
have
to
bring
in
staff
and
train
them
for
a
period
of
time,
especially
our
technical
staff
responsible
for
reviewing
permit
applications.
So,
in
the
absence
of
a
scalable
Workforce,
we
try
and
do
it
we
can
to
keep
our
timelines
and
keep
our
our
processing
times,
aligned
to
a
jet
to
address
the
volumes
it
can
be
challenging,
though
applicant
turnaround,
time
substantially
varies
so
again
with
our
our
regular
customers,
they're
very
good
at
meeting
our
timelines
in
terms
of
responsiveness.
This
is
the
chess
clock
analogy
that
you've
heard
us
refer
to
before.
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We
rely
significantly
on
our
applicants
to
meet
our
timelines
as
well
in
order
to
get
permits
out
the
door
and
then
finally
project
scope.
This
varies
substantially
even
within
a
permit
type,
so
low
density,
housings,
probably
one
of
our
more
complex
processes,
especially
around
Renovations,
when
you're
dealing
with
existing
aging
infrastructure.
So
it
again
it's
not
a
simplified
stream.
We
can't
always
necessarily
provide
a
specific
timeline
given
on
the
complexity
of
a
scope
of
a
project.
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I
wanted
to
touch
on
on
this
process
again.
This
represents
the
end-to-end
a
process
for
a
new
single-family
dwelling
in
Vancouver.
This
used
to
be
once
once
one
of
our
more
simplified
streams,
a
process
that
we
could
typically
issue
in
a
week
over
over
time.
It's
become
more
and
more
complex
for
a
number
of
reasons,
so
this
is
something
we've
been
focusing
on
through
the
task
force.
Work
is
to
really
drill
down
on
the
on
the
work
that
we
can
control
in
terms
of
our
reviews.
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So
many
of
you
have
heard
that
we
have
reduced
the
actual
review
time
from
12
weeks
down
to
18
days,
so
the
yellow
boxes
that
you
see
here
represent
staffed
our
customer
time
and
the
white
boxes
represent
staff
time,
so
the
Salvage
and
abatement
process
tree
barriers,
green
demolition.
These
are
all
really
great
Council
policies
that
have
been
adopted
over
the
years.
These
are
the
processes
that
can
contribute
greatly
to
the
timeline,
especially
with
things
like
green
demolition.
The
applicant
has
to
demonstrate
that
they
are
diverting
the
demolition
material
from
the
landfill
they
require.
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A
certified
are
a
professional
to
oversee
that
work.
There's
only
a
certain
number
of
professionals
available
to
do
this
work,
so
that
can
really
delay
the
processing
time
as
well.
If,
if
a
home
has
a
rental
tenant
in
it
right
away
from
this
time,
we
issue
the
first
building
permit,
which
is
the
Salvage
and
abatement
permit.
We
have
to
wait
four
months
before
through
the
residential
tenancy
act
before
we
can
move
to
the
next
phase
of
that
process.
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I
think
that's
pretty
clear,
predictable,
transparent
processes,
simple
minimal
layers
of
Regulation
and
policy
right
size,
efforts
to
the
work
that
they're
doing
more
risk-based
approach,
more
engaged,
more
more
Reliance
on
industry,
responsive
and
customer-centric
customer
experience
and
as
well
fast
and
efficient,
which
we
hear
a
lot
so
some
of
the
systemic
opportunities
to
create
transformational
change
process,
so
we're
working
on
multiple
processing
streams
to
eliminate
unnecessary,
unnecessary
steps
where
we
can
we're
also
leveraging
technology
to
address
much
of
this
work,
wherever
we
can
simplifying
clarifying
existing
policies.
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This
is
being
done
through
our
regulation
review,
that's
being
led
through
Teresa's
team
governance.
We're
trying
to
ensure
issues
are
escalated
quickly
to
make
a
decision
throughout
this
process,
as
it
can
become.
Very
it
can
become
very
confusing
for
staff.
They
are
getting
multiple
direction
from
departments
quality
of
applications.
You've
heard
me
speak
about
that
collaboratively
working
with
our
applicants
and
also
Shifting
the
internal
culture
to
be
more
customer-centric.
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Some
of
the
key
improvements
recently
delivered.
So,
just
touching
a
bit
on
the
permitting
and
Licensing
task
force,
which
we
originated
about
18
months
ago,
closer
to
yeah
18
months
ago,
this
was
focused
on
Smart,
a
small
high
volume
applications,
more
quick
wins
pilot
projects
that
we
introduced.
It
really
garnered
significant
improvements,
mostly
for
our
small
scale
projects.
We've
now
shifted
over
to
the
permitting
Improvement
program.
This
is
a
cross-departmental
system-wide
approach
to
transforming
permitting
and
Licensing.
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The
changes
that
we
will
identify
through
this
program
will
take
longer
but
will
yield
systemic
improvements
I'm
going
to
walk
through
some
of
the
key
accomplishments
over
the
past
18
months
that
you,
some
of
you
may
or
may
not
be
aware
of.
So
we
reduced
time
to
plan
check
low
density
housing
projects
from
12
weeks
to
18
days.
We
reduced
our
business
license,
wait
times
by
88
percent.
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Down
to
two
weeks,
we
created
a
new
directive
inspections
permit
program.
This
program
allows
for
us
to
process
simple
Renovations,
reducing
our
time
from
eight
weeks
to
one
week
and
I
can
go
into
more
detail
about
that.
A
little
bit
later
in
the
presentation
e-plan,
we
implemented
electronic
plan
review
across
all
permitting
types
saving,
roughly
our
applicants
and
a
million
dollars
a
year
in
printing
costs,
our
limited
out
of
scope
reviews.
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We've
talked
a
bit
about
that,
but
really
focusing
on
the
scope
of
work
and
and
not
really
focusing
on
the
unpermitted
work
that
inspectors
were
finding
doing
doing
their
inspections,
work
and
that
landscape
review.
We
have
now
embedded
landscape
staff
into
DBL
to
expedite
reviews,
specifically
relating
to
low
density,
housing.
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We've
introduced
more
transparency
into
our
process
with
our
open
data,
which
is
now
available
vancouver.ca,
we
introduced
a
standalone
laneway
program,
creating
a
dedicated
laneway
stream,
which
has
reduced
our
plan
checking
time
from
28
weeks
to
two
weeks.
We
reinstated
our
tips
program
for
those
of
you
who
may
not
be
aware
of
our
tips
program.
It's
a
tenant,
Improvement,
processing
stream.
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This
this
processing
stream
is
targeted
to
code
compliant
buildings,
mostly
office
Towers
in
the
downtown
core,
and
we
can
now
process
those
permits
in
anywhere
from
one
to
two
weeks,
which
is
a
50
reduction
in
previous
processing
times
the
change
of
use
to
relaxation.
So
this
relates
to
both
permitting
and
our
licensing
stream.
This
is
exempting
certain
types
of
businesses
from
permits,
so
this
is
our
office
uses
and
and
Retail
uses
saving
up
to
12
weeks
for
businesses
to
get
a
business
license.
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We've
also
moved
to
an
appointment
system
in
our
services
Center
coming
out
of
covid.
This
offers
applicants
an
opportunity
to
meet
directly
with
staff
to
expedite
resolutions,
we're
also
digitizing
our
building
permit
drawings,
which
have
been
on
microfiche
for
many
many
years,
and
this
is
going
to
provide
a
much
better
service
for
public
to
access,
have
access
to
building
permit
drawings.
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I'm
going
to
quickly
touch
on
the
deliverables
for
2023.
There's
a
lot
of
detail
in
these
slides,
so
I'm
going
to
run
through
them
very
quickly,
so
we're
focusing
on
most
of
the
low
density
housing
work
was
done
through
the
task
force.
We
still
have
some
additional
work
to
do
there,
we're
focusing
more
on
larger
developments
in
2023,
ramping,
up
more
changes
to
our
business
license
program
focusing
now
on
renovation,
Center
work
and
risk-based.
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U
We
will
be
looking
at
the
tree
bylaw
in
Teresa's
team,
simplifying
requirements
for
tree
protection,
removal,
replacement
and
reduce
processing
times
we're
also
refining
application
requirements.
Higher
quality
applications
will
result,
result
in
less
review
time
for
staff
and
for
customers
and
we'll
also
be
focusing
on
our
digital
application
processing.
So
many
of
you
saw
the
arkey
star
demo
that
we
provided
in
the
council
briefing.
This
will
allow
applicants
to
submit
plans
and
have
them
digitally
reviewed
in
real
time.
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Rationalizing
the
work
around
large
development
is
focusing
right
now
on
rationalizing
development,
permit
conditions.
So
this
is
a
significant
amount
of
work
cross-departmental
to
look
at
how
we
can
significantly
reduce
review
times
and
iterations
for
our
development
permit
process.
The
work
for
2023
will
be
to
create
a
standard
conditions
Library.
We
want
to
look
at
continuous
Improvement
of
the
development
primer
process,
including
a
resolution
of
conflicting
conditions
with
large
developments.
We'll
also
be
looking
at
optimizing
legal
agreements.
The
outcome
here
is
to
reduce
times
to
finalize
legal
agreements
between
the
city
and
applicants.
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In
our
business
license
area,
the
initiative
will
be
to
focus
on
the
review
of
the
vehicle
for
hire
and
license
bylaw
we're
looking
to
simplify
modernize
regulations,
license
categories
enabling
further
digitization
of
our
business
license
program
we'll
be
coming
to
Council
in
Q2.
We're
also
excited
to
be
launching
our
digital
license
application
platform.
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U
So
again,
this
is
in
the
license
area,
so
we'll
be
looking
at
what
low
risk
businesses
will
not
require
a
development
permit
for
change
of
use
and
we'll
be
coming
to
council
with
recommendations
in
Q4
of
this
year
around
the
renovation
work
I
mentioned,
we
had
some
great
success
in
low
density
housing,
with
our
risk-based
review
approach
to
how
we
review
plans
we'll
be
expanding
this
into
our
renovation
Center.
To
reduce
the
number
of
review
elements
to
expedite
reviews,
we
found
that
in
our
low
density
housing
area
we
were
looking
at
nut.
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expanding
the
direct
to
inspections
permits.
So
this
is
a
process
that
we
are
very
excited
to
roll
out
applications
for
small
scope,
Renovations,
whether
it's
a
single
family
dwelling
or
a
apartment
or
a
condo,
can
expect
to
receive
an
app
or
a
permit.
In
one
week,
we've
identified
There's
an
opportunity
through
how
an
applicant
actually
pays
a
fee
and
follows
up
on
an
inspection.
We
can
actually
probably
reduce
that
timeline
down
to
roughly
48
hours,
so
we'll
be
reporting
back
on
that
and
possibly
expanding
that
program
in
Q3.
U
So
I
talked
a
bit
about
the
tenant
Improvement
a
program,
the
tips
program
over
the
years.
A
lot
of
the
tips
eligible
buildings
have
fallen
off
the
register
due
to
code
Cycles.
So
we're
looking
at
a
way
to
find
a
path
forward
to
introduce
these
buildings
back
onto
the
tips
inventory.
What
upgrades
might
be
required
to
the
buildings
to
help
them
become
as
competitive
as
possible
in
the
downtown
core,
with
other
newer
Office
Buildings.
U
And
finally,
customer
service,
we
talked
a
bit
about
the
development
and
Building
Services
Center,
really
looking
at
creating
an
applicant-centric
service
center
experience
down
there.
So
we're
looking
at
both
physical
and
digital
opportunities,
we're
also
developing
an
advanced
appointment
booking
system
and
we
will
be
reporting
back
on
that
with
our
updates
and
then
finally,
advancing
permitting
and
Licensing
analytics
I
know,
there's
an
extreme
interest
in
in
providing
data
and
how
we're
doing
so.
U
This
is
looking
at
improving
insights
on
permitting
performance,
allowing
applicants
to
forecast
expected
wait
times
based
on
their
specific
projects
of
the
scope.
So
this
is
focusing
right
now
on
opportunities
to
understand
the
staff
areas
that
we
can
control
in
terms
of
processing
times,
so
we'll
be
reporting
back
in
June
on
that
one
and
then
just
to
finally,
to
give
you
an
update
on
our
intended
report
box,
we
will
be
providing
council
with
a
update
on
in
June
of
2023.
U
This
will
look
at
Targets
and
desired
outcomes
for
development
permits.
Preliminary
findings
from
industry
engagement,
project
summary,
a
progress
summary
and
bringing
forward
any
potential
policy
decisions
for
Council,
September,
23
2023.
We'll
look
at
comprehensive
report
back
on
the
progress
of
all
work
streams
with
their
achievements
to
date
and
then
in
20,
December
we'll
be
presenting
the
tree
bylaw
and
report,
and
progress
update
on
improving
metrics
and
I
will
turn
it
over
now
to
Teresa
O'donnell,
who
will
provide
an
overview
of
metrics
and
trends
for
rezonings.
Sorry.
A
If
I
need
a
motion
to
extend
past
noon,
to
finish
the
presentation
from
team
members
and
then
we'll
come
back
at
3
pm
to
ask
questions
of
team
members,
so
moved
councilor,
Bly
seconded
by
counselor,
Carr,
all
in
favor,
say
yay.
A
V
B
W
V
Connects
with
you
this
morning
to
alert
you
to
some
trends
that
we're
seeing
in
the
rezoning
group
like
Andrea's
group,
we're
very
data
driven,
we
collect
a
lot
of
metrics
kpis.
We
watch
them
very
very
closely.
The
last
couple
of
months
we've
seen
some
sharp
increases
in
our
volumes,
particularly
in
the
rezoning
division
and
I,
know
you're
starting
to
hear
about
those
anecdotally
right.
They
are
impacting
our
performance
measures,
so
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
quick
look
at
some
of
the
data
and
then
we'll
be
reporting
back.
V
So
this
isn't
a
comprehensive
review
like
Andrea
gave
on
the
program
we've
been
working
on
jointly,
but
it's
just
to
raise
your
awareness
and
alert
you
that
we
see
a
problem
coming
in
and
that
we're
taking
action
to
move
on
it.
V
So
this
shows
this
pie
chart
shows
the
number
of
cases
that
staff
are
handling
right
now
these
are
the
January
numbers.
We've
had
296
Active
cases,
that's
about
100
more
than
what
we
usually
do.
So
we've
gotten
a
significant
amount.
If
you'll,
the
color
on
here
is
a
little
faded,
but
the
green
cases
in
the
different
shades
of
green
represent
pre-application.
Those
aren't
zoning
applications,
they're
letters
of
inquiry,
they're
pre-advised,
so
so
about
two-thirds
of
the
work
that
we're
experiencing
right
now
is
kind
of
pre-application.
V
X
V
Those
really
came
out
right
after
Broadway,
so
you'll
see
that
these
numbers
starting
to
move
up.
We
also
take
these
numbers
and
we
break
them
down
by
classification.
The
the
type
of
case
and
the
use
so
again,
you'll
see
that
over
over
half
of
these
217
are
actually
major
cd1
projects,
so
they're
strata
their
office,
their
social
housing,
their
high
profile
cases.
We
know
those
cases
take
longer
they're
more
complicated.
V
We
work
with
additional
departments
and
divisions
to
process
those,
so
a
high
number
of
very
complicated
cases
are
coming
towards
through
the
zoning
stream
right
now.
So
this
this
performance
measure
really
looks
at
our
volume
in
relation
to
our
processing
times.
This
is
the
letter
of
inquiries,
and
you
can
see
that
for
the
past
four
years,
five
years
we've
been
hitting
our
targets
at
between
14
and
12
weeks
as
a
response
for
a
letter
of
inquiry.
But
you
can
see
this
High
number.
V
You
can
see
this
High
Spike,
and
so
what
this
tells
us,
what
this
tells
me
is
we
will
not
be
with
120
eloes
in
the
system
right
now.
We
will
not
be
meeting
that
12
to
16
week
time
frame
and
we're
starting
to
hear
that
frustration
from
our
applicants,
but
this
is
why
this
is
a
big
spike
in
work
volume.
So
you
can
see
we're
watching
these
measures
very
closely.
V
This
again
is
the
number
of
zoning
applications
we
typically
receive
in
a
year,
so
we
get
65
70..
You
can
see
that
2022
was
a
spike,
because
that
was
an
election
year.
We
only
had
we
didn't
have
public
hearings
in
four
during
four
months,
so
we
started
this
year
with
a
bit
of
a
backlog,
so
again
we're
receiving
a
high
number
of
cases
and
we
started
off
with
a
backlog
right.
V
So
one
of
the
things
that
we'll
be
doing
is
coming
to
council
and
asking
about
how
we
can
move
more
of
these
cases
through
the
system
this
year
again,
even
though
we
only
process
so
many
cases
for
seven
months,
we
still
pushed
63
cases
through
the
council
last
year.
Accounts
worked
very
very
hard.
We
added
a
lot
of
meetings.
We
have
a
number
of
very
contentious
cases.
V
A
lot
of
work
was
done,
but
we
we
started
the
year
with
a
backlog
regardless,
even
though
we
pushed
all
this
stuff
through
the
system
again
like
our
loes
for
the
past
several
years.
Are
our
applicants
have
expected
our
service
level
expectation
is
to
move
the
major
public
hearings
through
in
about
a
year
and
the
minor
ones
within
six
to
eight
months.
That's
the
level
of
service.
The
development
Community
expects
from
the
zoning
team.
That's
not
what
we'll
be
able
to
do
over
the
next
six
or
eight
months
because
of
this
backlog.
V
You'll
you'll
be
hearing
from
our
applicants.
We're
hearing
from
our
applicants
we're
working
on
this
we're
watching
these
metrics
very
very
closely,
but
you
will
see
that
our
services
levels
will
be
slipping.
So
the
big
question,
of
course,
is
Teresa.
What
are
you
doing
about
this?
Are
you
watching
it?
Are
you
paying
attention?
V
V
So
we
know
there
and
we
know
a
number
of
things.
We
know
there
was
a
lot
of
inquiries
from
Broadway
plan.
We
know
we
had
a
backlog
from
the
last
year.
We
also
know
that
the
economic
uncertainty
in
the
development
industry
right
now
is
creating
a
lot
of
of
uncertainty,
and
applicants
are
coming
in
you
saw.
Two-Thirds
of
our
work
is
just
pre-application
advice.
People
are
wanting
to
come
in
reposition,
their
assets,
change
applications
that
they've
already
had
in
the
system.
That's
creating
a
lot
of
that's
creating
a
lot
of
work.
V
We
know
the
impact
we
know
the
staff
resources
right
now
are
not
adequate
to
meet
the
demand.
We
know
our
response
lines
are
slower,
we're
getting
extended
extenuating
processing
times
a
lot
of
frustration,
because
our
our
applicants
have
been
used
to
receiving
a
very
high
responsive
level
from
the
zoning
Division
and
we're
not
able
to
meet
those
demands
right
now.
It's
also
having
an
impact
on
our
staff,
and
so
we
are
looking
to
make
some
short-term
improvements,
we're
trying
to
improve
our
communication
with
applicants.
V
We
continue
to
look
for
operational
efficiencies
in
a
number
of
different
ways.
We
will
be
coming
back
to
the
council
to
talk
about
how
we
can
move
more
of
these
cases
through
the
council,
either
by
adding
dates.
Adding
the
number
of
cases
increase,
increasing
the
efficiency
in
the
public
hearings
and
long
term.
We
know
we've
got
some
bylaw
changes
and
Charter
changes
and
the
e-plan
implementation
that's
going
to
help.
V
So
this
today
was
just
kind
of
a
warning
signal
to
tell
you
that
we
have
a
problem.
You
stand.
There
is
a
problem.
We
are
working
to
address
it.
We
will
be
reporting
back
to
you
in
the
very
near
future
to
talk
about
prioritizing
some
different
types
of
applications,
we're
talking
with
Finance
in
the
city
manager's
office,
about
increasing
some
temporary
staffing.
So
we
can
bridge
this
backlog
and
we
also
want
to
assess
the
impact
of
this
volume
on
our
other
departments,
particularly
clerks
law,
engineering
and
DBL.
So.
F
M
M
M
For
lunch
in
camera,
Council
starts
at
one
and
we'll
be
back
at
three
with
questions.
A
Back,
thank
you
for
waiting
for
us,
so
we
are
on
the
permitting
presentation
and
Council.
You
have
up
to
five
minutes
to
ask
questions
of
team
members.
Are
there
any
questions
and
yes,
there
are
counselor
Meisner.
A
C
You
mayor,
yes,
had
a
few
questions
on
permitting,
probably
for
Andrea,
so
I've
heard
from
a
few
builders
that
they
really
miss
the
in-person
counter
that
we
used
to
have
and
also
the
acquiry
line.
So
just
wondering
what
the
plans
are
around
those
two
pieces.
Are
we
going
to
bring
them
back,
yeah.
U
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
question
yeah
we
are
looking
at.
We
did
some
engagement
through
covet
and
after
covid
with
industry,
to
just
get
a
sense
of
how
they
would
like
us
to
utilize
that
space
and-
and
we
did
get
a
lot
of
feedback
that
people
do
in
fact
miss
that
in-person
opportunity.
We
know
that
a
lot
of
our
customers
have
struggled
with
our
online
application
process.
It
is,
we
are
finessing
it
as
we
go
and
and
Lessons
Learned,
but
it's
it's
obviously
still
presenting
a
challenge
for
a
lot
of
our
customers.
C
Agree
so
I
understand.
Staffing
is
a
challenge.
Obviously
I
saw
there's.
You
know
quite
a
bit
turnover
and
I'm
sure
it's
hard
to
find
people
with
the
great
expertise,
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
been
any
consideration
to
perhaps
increasing
fees
to
pay
for
more
staff
or
faster
processing,
I've
heard
from
again
lots
of
builders
that
they'd
be
happy
to
pay
more
if
they
knew
that
their
permit
would
be
processed
quicker,
yeah.
U
So
our
priority
right
now
is
to
staff
up
as
soon
as
we
can
I
think
we're
we're
comfortable
that,
with
the
with
the
advocacy
of
Technology
that
we're
using
and
getting
our
staff
numbers
up,
that
we
can
manage
the
timelines
so
between
those
two
objectives,
we're
hoping
to
bring
timelines
back
down
into
sort
of
more
acceptable
processing
timelines,
but
yeah
it's
it's!
A
challenge.
We've
been
out
to
BCIT,
advocating
we've
got
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
from
people
out
there
looking
to
work
at
the
city
of
Vancouver.
U
C
Okay,
my
other
questions
are
for
Teresa,
so.
I
C
C
Hi
Teresa
hi.
So
when
we're
getting
rezonings
applications,
are
we
providing
the
like
estimated
reply
time
for
saying
Laur
to
applicants?
Do
they
have
any
idea
how
long
it's
gonna,
how
long
it's
gonna
take
for
them
to
hear
back
because
I
hear
from
again
a
lot
of
applicants
that
are
like
you
know,
I
sent
him
this
rezoning
I
have
no
clue.
What's
going
on
right.
V
We
do
now,
let
me
just
say
on
Lors:
we
have
always
posted
our
response
time
and
we
always
give
a
response
time.
But
last
month
we
took
that
response
time
down
off
our
web
page,
because
we
knew
we
weren't
going
to
be
able
to
meet
it
because
of
that
huge
Spike
that
we
had
on
Broadway
I
was
meeting
with
the
team
during
lunch
and
I
think
we're
going
to
clear
Mo.
Most
of
those
Lor's
are
going
to
start
going
out
in
batches
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
V
C
Okay
and
we're
going
to
put
that
back
online
once
we
get
through
this
backlog-
okay,
that's
great,
and
then
my
other
question
was
maybe
just
because
I
don't
understand
the
whole
process
and
the
political
implications.
But
what
is
the
rationale
for
pausing
public
hearings
for
four
months
during
the
election,
which
has
now
resulted
in
a
massive
backlog.
V
Well,
that
was
not
that's
a
standard
protocol
and
I
believe
the
council
had
changed
their
procedures
right
before
the
election
or
maybe
the
year
before
the
election,
to
have
that
quiet
period.
I'm
looking
at
the
city
manager
for
help,
but
I
think
that's
right.
I
think
the
council
had
actually
changed
their
procedures
so
that
they
didn't
hold.
That
now,
I
haven't
said
that
the
council
did
work
remarkably
hard
during
last
year
and
we
got
a
Year's
worth
of
cases.
V
I
Thanks
Mark,
no
question
I
think
I
asked
this
question
each
time
and
it's
it's
a
bit
daunting.
When
you
hear
the
update
as
to
how
much
work
those
do
and
how
many
regulations
there
are
I'm
trying
to
get
back
to
this
line
of
sight
for
the
public
and
for
Council
around
this
report
card
kind
of
idea,
we
had
motions
previously
around
posting
the
current
estimated
wait
times
for
permitting,
for
example,
online
or
getting
towards
kind
of
a
one-pager
with
metrics
and
traffic
lights.
I
There's
lots
of
slides
and
lots
of
data
and
I
know
it's
complex,
but
I'm
still
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
it
for
trying
to
look
at
in
a
simple
digestible
way.
How
are
we
doing
on
some
of
these
things,
whether
it's
change
of
view
simplification
or
it's,
the
rs1
permit
or
a
simple
renovation
or
whichever
it
is?
So?
Are
we
working
towards
that
because
I
know
this
has
come
up
a
few
times,
yeah.
U
Thanks
for
the
question,
so
a
couple
of
things,
what
we've
been
really
digging
into
since
we've
started,
producing
the
open
data
is
what's
within
our
control
in
terms
of
Permitting.
So
what
we
can
control
is
our
timeline
with
respect
to
the
various
stages
of
the
permit.
What
is
outside
of
our
control
is
customer
time,
which
I
alluded
to
in
a
few
of
those
slides
there.
So
we're
really
focused
on
our
timelines,
our
performance
levels
as
against
those
timelines
for
each
permit
type
and
so
short
answer
to
the
question.
U
So
the
idea
is
is
that
we
would
share
that
with
with
mayor
and
Council
and
also
the
city
manager's
office
and
then
reach
a
decision
as
to
how
we
want
to
share
that
information.
More
broadly,
okay,.
I
Also
next
question
is
that
last
time
we
had
a
motion
on
directing
staff
to
look
at
the
option
for
guaranteed
permit
wait
times
and
if
we
didn't
meet
them,
then
your
Project's
approved
de
facto
and
then
perhaps
we
did
spot
checks,
for
example,
and
looking
at
what
that
looked
like.
So
where
is
that
so.
U
That's
exactly
what
we've
been
doing
in
terms
of
timelines
really
focused
in
on
what
we
can
control
in
in
terms
of
our
timelines.
I
think
we've
also
been
engaging
with
other
municipalities
to
see
how
that's
going.
We
know.
Other
people
are
experimenting
with
that
as
well.
So
we're
taking
lessons
learned
from
that,
but
we
are
not
in
a
position
right
now
to
to
present
on
a
guaranteed
permitting
timelines.
It
is.
I
U
Again,
I
think
it's
largely
what's
within
our
control
and
what's
not
within
our
control,
which
is
the
customer
time,
so
it's
really
drilling
down
on.
What
is
what
are
we
guaranteeing?
Are
we
guaranteeing
staff
time
in
a
process
or
are
we
guaranteeing
an
end-to-end
permitting
timeline
and
that's
what
we're
working
through
right
now.
I
Okay,
it
has
our
research
shown
other
cities
doing
that.
U
We're
still
working
through
conversations
with
other
cities
who
are
in
the
middle
of
it
right
now.
I
know
Toronto
recently
was
mandated
to
to
a
approach
guaranteed
permitting
timeline,
so
we're
working
with.
I
U
We
we
do
use
certified
Professionals
in
terms
of
the
permitting
approach.
We
are
looking
at
this
through
our
sprinkler
program,
which
many
of
you
may
be
aware
of
has
presented
challenges
over
the
over
the
last
few
years.
So
we
have
been
working
with
a
consultant
on
that
explicitly
how
we
can
rely
more
on
industry,
experts
and
professionals
to
assume
more
of
the
responsibility
and
permitting
interesting
findings
coming
out
of.
U
We
can
provide
an
update
in
June
as
to
where
we're
at
with
the
sprinkler
piece
of
work,
but
we
are
working
with
a
consultant
right
now.
Yeah.
I
Sorry,
just
clarify
I'm
not,
and
you
can
follow
up
offlines
my
time's
running
out,
but
not
just
for
sprinklers,
but
just
in
certified.
U
A
And
you're
at
time,
thank
you,
counselor
Joe,
okay,.
N
Thanks
mayor
yeah,
also
very
similar
to
counselor
kavian's
question
regarding
the
dashboard,
so
I
think
you're,
seeing
we're
going
to
have
some
dashboard
in
June
this
year.
So
are
we
going
to
see
some
demo
before
that,
so
we'll
see
what
we
mean
by
that
dashboard?
What
information
is
there
so.
U
Yeah,
so
the
team
has
committed
to
providing
an
update
when
we
come
back
to
Council
in
June,
so
we
will
have
to
let
you
know
in
advance
of
whether
we
can
provide
you
something
in
advance
of
that
of
that
timeline.
Okay,.
U
N
Yeah,
the
other
question
is
so
I
heard.
Also
there's
some.
We
need
more
clarity
and
guidelines.
You
know
because
a
lot
of
applicants
for
the
resulting
they
don't
know
the
all
those
guidelines,
so
they
have
to
submit
many
times
which
also
increase
your
workload.
So
do
we
work
on
that
as
well,
to
avoid
some
rework
and
re-application.
N
The
whole
interpersonal
process
because
there's
a
lack
of
clarities
so
for
the
application.
They
don't
even
know
what
you
know.
What
yeah
that's.
V
That's
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
ask
applicants
to
go
through
the
LOE
process
they
don't
have
to,
but
they
can.
But
that's
what
we
do
remember
yesterday
when
we
were
in
there
and
I
was
showing
you
the
maps
with
all
the
plans
from
1974
and
the
80s
and
90s
during
that
LOE
process
is
when
we
research
all
that
for
them,
and
then
we
provide
them.
This
lit
Written
Letter
of
response
that
have
gone
through
and
done
an
exhaustive
search
to
see
which
ones
apply,
and
then
we
give
them
a
written
confirmation
of
that.
V
N
V
What
we
know
is
that
we
get
we
get
duplicate,
we
get
several
inquiries
on
the
same
piece
of
property
for
different
applications,
so
they'll
send
us
one
and
they'll
say
well,
you
know
the
zoning
allows
20
stories.
Will
you
accept
30.
and
we
say
yeah,
probably
not
30
and
they
come
back
and
they
say
well
what
about
25?
And
so
it's
a
very
iterative
process.
It
goes
back
and
forth,
but
that's
at
the
applicant's
choice.
N
Okay,
so
one
more
question
regarding
the
numbers,
so
I
saw
a
lot
of
numbers
here
so
slide
number
36
I
saw
the
the
average
wait
time
from
2018
to
2022.
So
you
know
what
are
my
questions?
Do
we
have
a
distribution
of
those
wait
times
so
why
I'm
asking
these
questions
I'm
wondering
if
long
waiters
is
the
one
driving
the
percentage
average
high
or
it
is
just
across
the
board,
because
you
know
average
sometimes
could
be
misleading
mathematically
right.
N
V
Yes
and
what
what
happened
is
we
were
hitting
that
we
were
hitting
that
11
weeks?
We
could
add
staff
and
shorten
that,
but
we
were
maintaining
those
performance
levels
until
we
got
this
bike
so
now,
there's
120
of
those
applications
and
part
of
this
is
a
fee
review,
because
we
know
we're
under
charging
for
those.
It's
not
an
expensive
ask.
We
dedicate
a
lot
more
staff
resources
than
we
actually
charge
in
fees,
so
we
need
to.
We
need
to
work
with
budget.
We
need
to
write
right
size,
those
fees.
V
We
have
a
complete
breakdown.
We
know
of
all
those
Eloise
when
we,
when
we
send
the
LOE
how
long
it
takes
them
to
get
back
to
us.
How
many
are
repeats.
What's
I
can
tell
you
that
the
average
after
we
issue
an
Lor,
the
average
response
back
to
staff
with
an
application
is
between
six
months
and
two
years.
We
track
all
that
be
happy
to
show
you
all
those
metrics
in
a
more
comprehensive
briefing.
N
V
And
I
look
at
those
metrics.
We
have
very
exhaustive
metrics,
particularly
for
zoning
I.
Look
at
them
once
a
month
when
they
scare
me
I,
send
them
to
the
city
manager
and
we
can
review
those
with
Council
and
you
can
start
to
see
kind
of
what
we're
measuring
and
how.
A
Sorry
about
that
councilor
Montague
thanks.
R
Mayor
I
think
my
questions
are
probably
going
to
be
for
Teresa
as
well.
You
you
did
mention
that
you've
been
hearing
from
applicants
and
that
we've
probably
been
hearing
from
applicants
as
well.
R
Is
the
biggest
is
unbelievable?
We
hear
a
lot
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
one
of
the
things
you
mentioned
in
in
the
presentation
about
process
improvements
and
the
pep
yes,
real
is:
is
the
pep
working
as
staff
has
hoped
it
would
work?
Are
there
problems
with
it?
What
can
be
tweaked?
R
The
feeling
that
I'm
getting
from
the
correspondence
that
I
get?
Is
that
it's
not
working,
but.
V
We
think
it's
working
and
it,
but
we
would
like
an
opportunity
to
review
that
with
the
council
and
talk
about
priorities
and
what
the
council's
goals
are.
We,
when
we
originally
envisioned
pep
and
I,
think
councilor
Kirby
young
said
this
recently
is
that
we
envisioned
that
process
for
exceptional
projects
and
what
we
don't
get
a
lot
of
exceptional
projects.
We
get
a
lot
of
I
can't
make
my
finances
work.
Let
me
break
the
rules.
V
Those
are
not
exceptional
projects,
in
our
opinion,
they're,
not
meeting
or
exceeding
the
criteria
that
the
past
Council
set,
and
so
we
evaluate
all
of
those
by
the
council
approved
criteria,
understand
that
this
Council
will
want
to
review
that
and
set
their
own
criteria,
and
we
are
prepared
to
have
that
discussion
with
the
council
at
your
earliest
convenience.
Okay,.
R
R
V
And
you
will
get
a
briefing
on
the
Broadway
plan
at
the
end
of
this
month
and
we'll
start
to
kind
of
discuss
that
with
you
and
those
and
what
we're
seeing
we're
clear.
The
the
good
news
is,
the
vast
majority
of
the
applicants
are
complying
with
the
plan
they,
and
so
we
think
we're
going
to
get
a
lot
of
good
strong
applications.
V
But
there
are
clearly
folks
that
are
coming
in
early
to
test
the
policies
of
the
plan
that
don't
want
to
provide
20,
affordable
that
want
to
exceed
the
Heights
or
the
densities
of
the
floor.
Plates
averages
hide
that,
but
we've
we
know
that
those
are
outliers,
unfortunately
they're
the
early
ones,
so
the
the
plan
will
be
tested
early
and
it's
in
its
infancy
to
to
look
at
those.
Now
the
nice
thing
about
all
those
all
those
coming
in
at
once.
V
R
A
P
Thank
you,
and,
and
thanks
for
the
updates,
greatly
appreciate
it.
There's
been
a
a
great
focus
on
this
area.
I
have
a
couple
of
follow-up
questions
stemming
from
feedback
we've
had
from
Builders,
but
also
from
previous
motions.
One
is
with
respect
to
looking
at
addressing
permits
related
to
non-bricks
and
mortar
Endeavors
in
the
city,
and
this
goes
back
to
a
multitude
of
projects
that
came
forward
last
term,
particularly
in
the
spring
and
summer
months.
Around
activations.
P
Some
of
them
were
around
public
activations
on
the
waterfront
to
bike
shares
in
parkades
to
Food
Distribution
in
parque,
in
parking
lots
that
were
being
underutilized
and
I
moved
to
motion
at
that
time.
To
see
that
we
could
find
A,
Better
Way
Forward
around
that
and
I'm
just
curious.
P
U
Yes,
it
will
be
coming
back
to
council,
Teresa
and
I've
been
talking
about
this
even
earlier
today,
just
because
it's
come
up
on
our
radar
again.
So
I
think
we're
working
through
how
best
to
approach
that,
given
that
there's,
a
lack
of
of
specific
land
use
policy
around
that
body
of
of
or
that
business
type
of
business,
so
yeah
fantastic,
coming.
P
Back,
okay,
that's
great!
My
other
question
is:
have
you
had
positive
response
around?
You
had
initiated
some
changes
around
persons
with
disabilities
who
are
doing
seeking,
retrofits
and
and
being
prioritized
in
our
system
and
recognized
either
their
contractors
or
otherwise.
Just
because
in
some
cases
they
couldn't
live
in
their
homes,
and
is
there
been
success
with
that?
Can
I
get
a
line
of
sight
into
how
that's
working,
because
that
was
again.
Another
area
of
frustration,
yeah.
U
I
mean
we
can
certainly
provide
you
an
update
on
that,
but
it
is
an
area
that
we
have
been
focusing
on
for
many
years,
so
I
think
there.
There
was
one
instance
where
there
was
a
miscommunication
on
the
part
of
the
applicant
and
the
staff
person
involved,
but
yeah.
We
have
always
had
a
process
where
we
prioritize
that
work
where
applicants
can
self-identify
with
us
early
on,
so
that
we
know
and
then
we'll
you
know,
we
put
those
projects,
definitely
to
the
top
of
the
pile
to
to
Advocate
more
than
wherever
we
can
fantastic.
P
Okay,
that's
great
I
want
to
follow
up
on
just
a
couple
other
considerations,
one
of
the
conversations
that's
come
from
the
past
in
terms
of
all
the
different
elements
of
work,
is
whether
structurally
we're
set
up
for
success
in
terms
of
having
planning
department
DBL
and
is
there
as
you're
working
through
changes?
Is
that
a
conversation
that's
taking
place
about
how
we're
set
up
structurally
across
the
organization,
because
I
know
you
referenced,
there's
been
great
improvements
around
kind
of
cross-department
efforts
in
communication,
but
is
that
part
of
the
work
plan.
X
In
fact,
the
creation
of
Andrea's
role
as
a
as
a
GM
focusing
on
this
business
was
was
intended
to
get
at
this
problem
really
where
we
started
to
encounter
major
problems
with
permit
turn
around
was
when
we
had
a
single
GM
that
was
responsible
for
planning
and
development
services
and
buildings,
and
the
scope
of
that
role,
particularly
in
Vancouver,
with
the
demands
on
the
planning
director,
is
massive.
I
think
what
we
found
there
is
that
the
GM
did
not
have
the
ability
to
deal
with
all
the
planning
work
and
the
process
pieces.
X
So
I
think
right
now,
there's
there's
lots
of
work.
We
need
to
do
you
know
in
the
future.
Would
there
potentially
be
a
need
to
revisit
structures?
I
would
possibly
at
this
point
in
time,
though,
I
think
the
focus
is
more
on
the
process
piece
and
then
the
surrounding
policy
and
making
sure
that
we
are
working
across
departments
in
a
way.
That's
effective,
so
it's
not,
as
Andrew
said,
not
kind
of
immediate
on
the
work
plan.
X
I
think
there
are
definitely
some
reorganizations
that
you
know
and
Andrea
spoke
about
it
today
in
terms
of
assignment
of
some
landscape
staff
directly
to
DBL.
So
at
that
level
we're
looking
at
where
work
sits,
but
in
terms
of
restructuring
the
GM
portfolios
with
engineering
as
well.
No,
hopefully
that
answers
your
question.
Yeah.
P
No,
it
does
that's
great.
Thank
you,
I,
two,
a
couple
more
quick
questions,
ones
around
you
reference
the
Gap
around
application
quality,
as
well
as
turnaround
time,
sometimes
from
the
applicants.
What
steps
are
we
taking
to
help
that,
along
in
that
case,
because
is
that
you've
definitely
identified
that
as
it
being
a
gap?
It's
not
always
on
the
city
side,
but
it
may
is
what's
happening
in
that
vein.
Is
it
more
with
individuals
who
aren't.
P
A
All
in
favor
great,
thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
Clawson.
D
Thanks
very
much
thanks
very
much
mayor
just
to
a
few
areas
on
cacs.
D
How
typically
could
a
CAC
negotiation
hold
up
a
development
process
and
if
the
Gap
is
reasonably
narrow,
say
a
six-figure
number
on
a
multi-million
dollar
project?
Can
we
set
aside
that
negotiation
and
get
down
to
work.
W
For
the
question,
and
and
yes,
we
can
make
it
work,
we
are
in
the
process
of
a
CAC
transformation
project.
We
are
actually
just
about
to
launch
today
a
deal
point
to
UDI
for
them
to
consider.
W
We
have
time
frames
in
those
in
that
in
those
deal
points
and
we're
hoping
to
get
to
a
point
where
we
can
actually
consolidate
some
of
the
concerns
that
the
industry
has
had
on
the
CAC
negotiation
itself,
we're
trying
to
narrow
the
timing
for
the
development
approvals
working
with
PDS,
obviously,
but
right
now,
I
think
that
we're
acutely
aware
that
our
ability
to
actually
move
projects
when
we're
within
a
hair
right
is
something
that's
a
priority
for
us.
The
issue
councilman
Classen,
is
also
the
applicant.
W
There
are
issues
with
applicants,
not
giving
us
all
of
the
required
information
for
us,
sometimes
to
finish
our
negotiations,
but
again,
that's
not
on
us.
That's
on
them,
but
we're
working
with
them
closely.
But
our
our
goal
right
now
in
this
transformation
project,
is
to
actually
move
these
projects
faster
and
quicker.
Thank.
V
V
D
Like
to
focus
the
rest
of
my
three
minutes
here
on
customer
service,
there's
a
a
goal
here
in
one
of
the
slides
talking
about
college
staff,
culture
and
customer
service
I
assume
at
the
desk.
But
in
terms
of
dealing
with
it
have
we
brought
any
outside
Consultants
to
help
us
teach
that
those
skills
to
our
staff.
U
D
So
and
I'm
going
to
try
and
frame
this
very
carefully,
but
there
are
stories
where
I
mean
you
it:
the
culture
of
the
development
industry
and
the
relationships.
The
city
has
always
been
a
little
fraught,
but
there's
the
developers
are
usually
in
many
cases
very
successful
and
people
of
means
and
City
staff
have
that
have
to
try
and
work
with
them
and
so
there's
attention.
There
is
there
a
way
that
we
could
kind
of
bridge
those
gaps
a
little
bit.
D
So
we
do
have
a
better
working
relationship
and
I'm
I,
don't
know
I
realize
you
were
dealing
with
hundreds
of
different
stakeholders
so,
but
it
it
I
going
back
to
that
culture.
Customer
Centric
culture
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
improve
that,
so
people
really
are
feeling
good
about
the
process.
Notwithstanding
the
tensions
that
come
up
with
negotiations
and
so
on.
U
Yeah
and
thank
you
for
the
question
and
yes
we're
very
acutely
aware
of
that
I
think.
Historically,
we
were
much
better
I
had
much
better
relationships
with
a
development.
Community
I
think
we
really
noticed
a
shift
through
covid
when
our
doors
shut
and
the
culture
that
industry
perceived
was
one
of
the
Fortress.
They
couldn't
get
access
to
anybody.
They
couldn't
meet
with
staff,
it
felt
it
felt
like
it
was
breaking
down
significantly.
So,
yes,
we're
acutely
aware
of
that
and
working
on
all
opportunities
and
any
opportunities
to
improve
relationships
with
our
industry
partners.
D
And
I
certainly
appreciate
any
kind
of
update
on
that
customer
service.
Piece.
Final
question:
we're
all
used
to
apps.
Now
that
tell
us
when
our
orders
are
arriving,
you
know,
Jerry's
got
your
skip.
The
dishes
order
he's
two
kilometers
away.
Are
we
ever
going
to
be
in
a
place
where
people
who
are
doing
business
with
the
city
will
know
almost
in
real
time
where
their
projects
are
at.
U
I
think
we
will
I
think
we're
looking
at
the
very
simple
transactional
processes
now
in
order
to
to
deliver
that
information.
I
think
it
gets
very
complicated
when
you're
dealing
with
processes
that
are
reviewed
across
multiple
departments
with
their
own
competing
timelines
for
other
work.
So
it
is
a
work
in
progress.
It's
Something,
we're
working
towards,
but
we'll
likely
start
with
some
smaller
transactional,
quick
wins
in.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
Joe,.
N
Yeah
so
I'm
going
to
continue
the
question
I
didn't
ask
before
so
I,
don't
want
to
jump
too
fast
to
the
solution,
but
this
may
sound
very
technical,
but
how
we
think
about
collaborating
with
some
University.
You
know
because
some
of
this
issues
are
very
typical
academic,
Pro
questions
like
using
queuing
theories
like
using
the
simulation
model
to
simulate
all
this,
and
then
you
know
we
think
about
that
collaboration
with
academic
Academia
in.
U
N
I
will
be
really
Keen
to
explore
some
opportunity
of
that,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
data.
We
can
use
this
data
for
modeling
Advanced
analytics
and
that
would
support
our
decision
making
in
terms
of
with
some
reduction
and
that's
what
what
we
did
in
the
healthcare
so
because
of
the
data
because
of
the
modeling
yeah.
So
just
my
suggestion.
Thank.
U
A
A
The
interest
of
time
right
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
didn't
skip
you,
okay.
A
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
That
was
incredibly
incredible.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
all
the
hard
work
that
you're
doing
because
I
know
it's
a
it's.
A
pretty
big
file
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
energy
around
it
in
the
community
and
the
fact
that
you
know
times
are
going
down
all
across
the
board.
Is
it's
great?
So
thank
you
all
right.
A
So
we're
gonna
head
off
to
the
reports
now
reports
held
for
debate,
questions
to
staff
or
a
separate
vote,
so
the
first
report
held
what
is
report
number
five
and
report
number
five
is
the
quarterly
capital
budget,
adjustments
and
close
outs
and
it
was
held
by
councilor
Meisner.
A
Does
any
member
wish
to
declare
a
conflict
of
interest
on
this
item?
Oh
great,
councilor
Meisner.
You
helped
us
report.
You
have
five
minutes
up
to
five
minutes
to
ask
questions
to
the
team.
C
It's
just
a
fairly,
hopefully
straightforward,
question:
I
noticed
when
going
through
it
in
detail.
Coal
Harbor
school
I
noticed
that
the
cost
has
gone
up.
10
and
I
I
also
live
in
the
area
and
I
know
this
Project's
underway
that
they've
Broken
Ground,
so
I'm
just
wondering
how
we
can
prevent
these
sort
of
cost
escalations
in
the
future.
Do
we
have
fixed
term
like
contracts,
that
sort
of
thing,
maybe
just
some
information
on
that,
because
it's
10
of
the
overall
budget.
W
It's
3.3
million
dollars
and
the
escalation
it
is
partly
due
to
escalation
and
an
increase
of
scope
by
the
school
board.
It
is
the
the
component
of
the
3.3
million
dollars
is
exactly
towards
the
school
Redevelopment.
It's
not
you
know.
Rafm
is
is
managing
the
project,
but
it
is
actually
a
a
facet.
They
are
going
to
reimburse
us
100
for
the
3.3,
so
we're
at
the
wash.
It's
got
no
cost
to
the
city
whatsoever.
A
Mayor.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Seeing
no
other
questions
would
someone
like
to
move
a
motion.
Thank
you,
councilor
Boyle
seconded
by
councilor
at
Classen.
Sorry
I
saw
him.
He
was
very
excited
council.
Is
there
any
discussion?
A
A
Okay,
so
we
can
do
that
verbally.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
Well,
that
being
said,
the
motion
carries
unanimously.
A
All
right
jumping
on
moving
along
here,
we're
in
the
bylaws.
Now
we
have
four
bylaws
on
the
agenda
for
an
enactment
council
members
who
were
not
present
for
the
meetings
related
to
public
hearing.
Enactment
bylaws
must
confirm
that
they
have
reviewed
the
proceedings
of
the
meetings
if
they
wish
to
vote
on
the
enactment
by
law.
Number
three
is
from
public
hearing
of
February
the
9th
2021
counselors
Classen
Meisner
Montague
Joe
and
myself
were
not
on
council
at
the
time
of
the
public
hearing.
A
However,
on
January,
the
31st
2023
counselors,
Classen,
Meisner,
Montague
and
Joe
advised
that
they
had
reviewed
the
proceedings
related
to
byline
number
three
and
would
therefore
be
voting
on
enactment
on
the
enactment
I
have
not
reviewed
the
document,
so
I
will
not
be.
Would
someone
like
to
move
a
motion
to
adopt
bylaws
one
through
four
counselor
Joel
seconded
by
councilor
Montague?
Thank
you
Council.
Is
there
any
discussion?
A
All
those
in
favor
say
yay
all
those
pulsane
great.
The
motion
carries
unanimously.
The
list
of
approved
bylaws
can
be
found
on
the
city's
website.
Okay,
council
member
motions.
We
have
four
council
member
motions
on
the
agenda
today.
A
Motion
B1
is
requests
for
leaves
of
absence
as
follows:
counselor
Kirby
young
for
civic
business
on
March,
the
28
2023
from
6
pm
to
10
pm
and
April
26th
2023
from
5
PM
to
10
pm,
counselor
boyo
for
personal
reasons,
from
April
4th
to
6th
2023
and
May
15th
through
June,
2nd
2023,
counselor
Clawson
for
personal
reasons,
from
April,
the
6th
or
sorry
April
3rd
through
the
6th
2023
counselor
Carr
for
civic
business
on
March,
the
30th
2023
from
6
pm
to
10
pm
counselor
Bly
for
civic
business
on
February,
the
23rd
2023
from
9
30
a.m,
to
1pm
March,
7th
and
March
8
2023
from
9
30
a.m,
to
10
p.m,
and
March
9
2023
from
3
pm
to
10
pm.
A
Is
there
a
mover,
great
counselor
seconded
by
counselor
Carr,
moved
by
councilor
Bly,
all
those
in
favor
say
yay,
all
those
opposed,
say,
nay.
The
motion
carries
unanimously
motion.
B2
is
equity,
lens
review
of
city
bylaws
to
ensure
Equity
is
at
the
Forefront
and
is
to
be
moved
and
introduced
by
counselor
Joe
counselor
Joe.
You
have
two
minutes
to
introduce
your
motion.
N
Thanks
mayor,
okay,
so
I'm
honored
to
enabling
the
motion
of
the
equity
Alliance
review
of
city
bylaws
to
ensure
equities,
always
at
the
Forefront.
N
This
motion
fulfills
the
commitment
that
we
brought
forward
during
our
election
on
our
94
Point
platform
city
of
Vancouver
approved
the
Equity
framework
in
2021,
my
appreciation
to
City
staffs
on
the
previous
Council
in
stepping
forward
to
create
a
unified
vision
and
shared
understanding
of
equity
across
the
city
from
the
first
bylaw
in
the
history
of
Vancouver
of
Vancouver,
which
was
in
1886
to
when
the
equity
framework
was
approved
in
2021.
During
this
135
years
history,
there
are
approximately
10,
000,
bylaws
or
200
Consolidated
bylaws
in
the
city
of
Vancouver.
N
Potentially
there
may
be
some
bylaws
to
not
align
with
the
security
cities,
Equity
objectives
and
framework.
Therefore,
I
think
those
bylaws
need
to
be
updated,
for
example,
I
think
in
other
City
it
is
not
uncommon
to
see
some
bylaws
with
discriminatory
languages
and
content
exclude
certain
group
of
people
applying
jobs
or
practicing
in
certain
professions.
N
N
The
first
draft
of
our
motion.
Actually,
we
we
actually
proposed
Q2
in
this
Mo
in
this
year
as
the
timeline
but
after
reveal
stuff,
comes
back
with
recommendations
of
moving
the
timeline
to
Q3
because
of
the
complexity
and
resource
allocation,
so
really
appreciate
the
feedback
from
the
staff
and
we
listened
and
accepted
the
feedback.
In
this
final
motion,
which
you
have
seen
in
your
in
front
of
you
right
now.
N
A
J
Thanks
I
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
because
it's
important
work
what
I
know
a
lot
of
this
is
happening
already
under
the
equity
framework.
What
this
motion
directs,
that
your
senses
wasn't
already
underway
from
Steph.
J
If
any
bylaws
need
to
be
up
updated
where
I
meant
okay
and
do
you
have
an
understanding
of
what,
if
that
works,
staff
were
already
doing
through
the
equity
framework
that
was
passed,
so
we
had
a
discussion
with
stuff
I
think
they
came
back
seen
this
all
this
work
is
durable
and
they
just
want
to
move
the
timeline
from
Q2
to
Q3,
which
we
we
listened
and
accepted.
I
think
that's
what
will
be.
They
will
be
report
back
to
the
to
the
council.
Okay.
Okay,
that's
all
thanks!
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
Counselor
Joe!
You
have
the
floor
again.
Is
that
right
or
oh?
No,
that
was
the
previous
one
right.
We
were
oops
counselor
class
and
I
just
jumped
the
Q
there
you're
up.
Oh
okay,
thank
you,
chair
I'm,
just
wondering
if
a
point
point
of
information
as
to
whether
Council
would
consider
or
can
consider
a
moving
to
debate
and
wave
the
one
speaker
on
the
list
and
and
and
complete
the
business
on
this
motion.
J
Sorry
can
I
understand
the
question
again.
So
do
we
have
a
speaker
on
this
issue
and
the
request
is
to
wave
the
speaker
and
just
debate
it.
Okay,
I
have
to
confer
with
the
experts
here.
J
J
Yeah
nope
all
right,
this
is
going
to
be
quite
the
adventure.
Let
me
tell
you
so
yes
counselor
Classen.
We
can
do
that,
so
you
moved
that
I
would
need
a
seconder.
J
If
someone
would
like
to
second
foreign
for
the
motion
that
will
actually
let
us
skip
the
speaker
and
bring
this
right
to
the
floor
to
discussion
and
debate.
Do
we
have
a
secondary?
J
Second,
all
in
favor
say:
aye,
oh,
no,
no,
we're
just
passing
the
motion
to
or
or
so
you
guys
want
to
have
a
discussion
on
whether
or
not
we
do
this
right.
So
Council
I
guess
is
there.
Oh,
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
the
queue.
Let's
have
that
conversation
so
do
I.
Sorry,
clerk
do
I
put
that
in
the
main
queue.
J
Or
is
this
still
a
question?
Cue
sorry
can
I,
please
get
everyone
to
counselor
Boyle.
Thank
you.
I
think
I
saw
here.
We
go
okay,
so
counselor
oil
thanks.
They
just
have
a
question
through
you
to
the
Mover
of
the
motion,
which
is
just
to
understand.
I,
don't
know
the
speaker
if
there's
been
a
conversation
with
the
speaker
that
they
can't
speak
or
why
it's
an
unusual
circumstance
that
we
would
do
this,
but
not.
J
Truthfully
it's
just
in
a
reflection
of
the
the
amount
of
business
that
we
have
coming
up
tomorrow.
I
spoke
to
the
Mover.
Apparently
the
speaker
is
familiar
with
him.
He
felt
comfortable
with
it
and
I
just
thought
it
would
be
a
way
for
us
to
get
moved
in,
and
certainly
we
appreciate
anybody
who
comes
forward
that
and
we
would
obviously
like
to
communicate
with
with
the
speaker
and
make
sure
if
they
have
any
sort
of
follow-up.
J
You
know
ideas
or
Expressions
that
they
want
to,
but
at
this
time
it's
really
just
a
a
way
of
us
keeping
the
business
of
of
council
moving
forward.
We
have
a
very
busy
agenda
tomorrow,
I
believe
and
again
I
think
it's
just
an
opportunity
for
us
to
to
take
this
motion
and
bring
it
to
the
floor
for
debate.
J
Okay
can
I
just
follow
up
with
a
point
of
clarification.
Another
question
on
that
which
is
just
to
clarify:
if
have
you
spoken
to
the
speaker,
who
said
don't
worry
about
about
it,
go
ahead
or
I
just
want
to
make
sure
when
we
do
this,
we
have
some
clarity
about.
What's
the
sort
of
precedent
of
when
we
skip
past
I
have
not
I
have
not
been
in
touch
with
the
speaker?
Okay,
thank
you.
J
Thanks
I'll
leave
it
there
for
now,
okay,
and
just
just
to
build
off
that,
if
I
can
does
everyone
have
a
list
of
who
the
speaker
is
so
we're
all
playing
with
the
same
deck
here.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Councilor
Boyle
councilor
Meisner.
You
can
actually
take
me
off
the
queue
thanks
mayor.
Thank
you,
councilor
Claussen!
No,
that's
it!
Thank
you!
That's
it!
J
J
J
Okay,
counselor
Bly
seconded
that
motion
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
all
opposing
a
okay,
so
the
motion
passes.
Now
we
are
going
to
go
into
questions
in
the
main
queue
on
motion
B2.
Are
there
any
questions
by
any
of
the
counselors?
J
J
Okay,
so
the
so
there's
no
debate
we
can
go
to
the
voting
panel.
Now.
Oh
sorry,
just
caught
it
in
time,
counselor,
Joe,
okay,
I'm,
not
sure.
Do
we
need
to
do
a
closing
remark.
That's
a
process
issue
I'm,
not
sure.
J
Yes,
we
do
thank
you
for
highlighting
that.
Would
you
like
to
sure
I'll
do
one
because
I've
prepared
something
already?
J
Thank
you.
Please
go
ahead
over
okay!
Thank
you,
mayor
yeah,
thanks
I
want
to
thank
Star
by
thanking
the
discussion
for
my
colleagues
or,
although
we
don't
have
a
discussion
and
thanks
for
my
counselors,
my
the
the
mayor
office
and
City
staffs
thanks.
You
all
provided
very
good
feedback
for
this
motion,
so
I
think
through
the
lens
of
equity.
All
people
are
people.
They
are
not
cogs
on
the
machine.
Equity
Works
engage
both
cars
and
minds
and
it
requires
us
to
relate
to
each
other
as
a
human
being.
J
First,
it
is
about
embracing
difference
so
that
there's
no
room
there's
a
room
for
people
to
participate
and
contribute.
Not
this
fact,
but
because
of
our
diversity
see,
the
Vancouver
is
probably
the
most
diverse
City
on
this
planet,
whether
it
is
antenessities
languages,
political
beliefs,
religions,
cultures
or
sexual
orientations
Etc.
So
we
should
acknowledge,
respect,
appreciate
and
celebrate
our
differences
and
continue
to
build
a
city
that
is
safe,
accessible,
inclusive,
where
people
can
live
work
and
play.
So,
let's
face
it.
I
think
city
of
Vancouver
made
mistake
in
the
past.
J
It
is
negatively
affect
some
of
other
groups
of
people,
whether
it
is
indigenous
Community,
Chinese,
Community
or
Italian,
Community
or
others.
So
in
the
130
plus
years
history
in
Vancouver
out
of
the
10
000
bylaws
I'm,
not
surprised
to
see
some
of
the
bylaws
contradict
to
our
existing
Equity
framework,
which
was
approached
just
two
years
ago,
especially
in
the
early
days
of
of
this
city.
Well,
I
understand
some
of
this
discriminatory
languages
or
practice,
or
perhaps
long
before
the
in
the
past,
but
it
still
harms
and
hurts
people
in
that
community.
J
So
I
think
we
need
to
stand
up
for
a
true
reconciliation
so
also
on
a
different
topic.
I
want
to
shout
out
to
my
fellow
councilor
Kirby
young,
for
her
Motion
in
2020
to
ask
ask
staff
to
report
back
the
for
the
discriminatory
languages
for
our
land
title
so
I
think
now
it
is
time
to
also
evaluate
our
bylaw,
identify
them
and
correct
them.
We
are
so
fortunate
to
live
in
a
democratic
country
that
we
don't
try
to
acknowledge
the
mistakes
we
made
before.
J
We
always
learn
from
the
mistakes
and
reach
out
to
the
to
the
to
the
victims
and
also
educate
to
ourselves
to
ensure
this
mistake
will
never
ever
happen
again.
This
is
because
this
is
for
us
for
our
children,
grandchildren
and
the
generations
after
them.
So
if
we
conceal
from
the
yesterday
escaped
from
today,
there
will
be
no
tomorrow.
This
is
how
we
build
a
resilient
community
that
is
fair,
safer,
more
Equitable,
more
accessible
and
more
inclusive,
so
I'm
really
feeling
very
passionate
about
this
motion.
J
I
really
hope
and
urge
my
final
counselor,
both
in
supporting
of
this
motion.
Thank
you
great.
Thank
you
very
much,
counselor
Joe
counselor
Claussen.
Thank
you
mayor,
just
sort
of
just
for
for
people
in
the
chamber.
I'm.
I'm.
Sorry
that
it
this
came
very
quickly.
It
was
not
my
intention
to
to
sort
of
create
any
questions
around
this.
It
was
truly
a
a
situation
where
I
was
looking
at
the
at
the
business.
J
We
have
at
hand
I'll
reach
out
to
Mr
pack
himself
and
and
certainly
would
love
to
hear
and
thank
him
for
the
work
that
he's
doing
around
anti-asian
hate,
advocacy
and
I
want
to
just
as
express
my
support
for
the
motion
brought
forward
by
counselor.
J
Joe
I
had
the
great
pleasure
of
actually
sitting
down
and
meeting
with
our
chief
Equity
officer
aftab
yesterday
for
the
first
time
and
I
celebrate
the
work
of
her
office
and
of
the
city
and
I'm
very
excited
the
fact
that
we're
building
upon
that
last
week
and
I
was
invited
to
speak
to
the
BC,
the
Vancouver
youth
Parliament
at
UBC,
which
was
the
truest
expression
I've
seen
of
young
people
from
our
very
diverse
communities.
J
All
very
much
engaged
in
exercising
and
learning
about
our
parliamentary
system
of
government
I
was
so
excited
to
be
there
and
posted
just
a
photo
of
the
room
to
to
social
media
and
received
a
sort
of
a
racist
comment
in
response
to
it.
So
it
was
a
very
quick
reminder
to
me
of
what
is
still
very
present
in
our
community
is.
J
Is
that
level
of
intolerance
and-
and
we
have
to
do
everything
that
we
can
do
to
make
sure
that
we
are
supporting
our
rich
and
diverse
culture
here
in
the
city,
so
I
will
be
most
definitely
supporting
counselor
Jones
motion.
Thank
you
great.
Thank
you
for
excuse
me.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
see
no
other
questions.
I
would
like
to
put
the
motion
to
a
vote.
J
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay
motion
B3
is
repealing
Vancouver's
single
use
beverage
cup
fee
and
is
to
be
moved
and
introduced
by
counselor
Bly
counselor
Bly.
You
have
two
minutes
to
introduce
your
motion.
J
Thanks
very
much
mayor,
I
won't
probably
take
the
two
minutes
so
today
I'm
tabling
a
motion
to
repeal
the
25
cent
single-use
cup
fee
and
the
Motions
asking
staff
to
work
with
members
of
the
business
Community
to
ensure
that
the
fee
can
be
removed
in
a
manner.
That's
both
effective
and
efficient.
J
It's
not
a
secret
that
this
fee
has
been
very
unpopular
to
say
the
least
affordability
is
on
everyone's
mind,
and
this
is
just
one
small
way
that
we
can
help
ease
that
burden.
But,
more
importantly,
what
we've
been
hearing
from
businesses
is
that
the
cup
fee
is
not
resulting
in
any
change,
really
material
change
in
consumer
behavior,
and
so
the
hope
is
that,
with
doing
this,
we
can
then
focus
on
waste
reduction
initiatives
that
actually
work.
J
There
are
a
number
of
examples.
There
are
existing
programs
that
are
underway,
all
of
which
can
be
supported,
enhanced
and
and
put
to
good
use
without
a
without
us.
A
punitive
tax
on
single-use
cups
and
I'd
say
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there
has
been
a
number
of
scenarios
that
have
been
presented
to
us
over
time
that
show
that
demonstrate
that
consumers
do
not
have
any
other
option
other
than
to
use
a
single-use
cup,
and
in
that
case
this
truly
is
a
stick,
not
a
carrot.
J
So
let's
Inspire
educate
the
consumer
and
support
businesses
and
making
sure
that
we
can
change
Behavior
to
reduce
single-use
waste,
which
is
incredibly
important
and,
and
there
are
other
ways
we
can
achieve
that
so
hoping
to
get
the
support
of
council
to
repeal
this.
So
we
can
focus
on
better
policy.
J
Great.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
know
there
are
questions
here.
So
just
as
a
reminder,
counselors,
you
have
up
to
one
minute
to
ask
questions.
J
Counselor
Boyle,
Europe
thanks,
whereas
12
of
the
motion
says
overwhelmingly
clear,
unambiguous
evidence.
What
is
that
evidence
where
I
haven't
seen
evidence
the
staff
haven't
been
able
to
compile
information?
Yet
so
and
that's
pretty
strong
language?
Can
you
share
where
that
evidence
comes
from
and
share
it
with
us
and
the
public.
J
One
example
would
be
that
this
bylaw
applies
to
many
many
many
thousands
of
businesses
in
the
city
of
Vancouver.
So
far,
those
that
are
engaging
in
cup
share
programs
is
just
over
100,
so
that
would
be
sort
of
a
fraction
of
the
businesses
that
have
actually
been
impacted
and
I'd
say.
The
other
evidence
is
the
lack
of
alternate
options
for
people
to
bring
their
own
cups.
So
technology
businesses
have
just
not
advanced
in
the
way
that
I
think.
J
Maybe
we
all
had
hoped
when
this
was
first
brought
forward
and
the
way
that
it
was
sort
of
positioned
by
staff,
but
those
initial
numbers
of
any
sort
of
share
program,
which
is
pretty
vague
in
detail
to
start
with
applied
to
many
thousands
of
businesses.
It
just
demonstrates
that
we
don't
have
a
Groundswell
of
movement
on
this
in
limited
time.
J
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
debate
that
later
yeah
I
I
I
wasn't
we're
way
over
I
apologize,
counselor
fry
sorry,
on
that
clear
evidence
on
the
100
businesses,
where
where's
that
figure
from
I
think
it's
just
over
120.
There
was
preliminary
data
that
came
out
from
staff
in
a
memo
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
that
I
can
pull
up
and
happy
to
share
that
with
you
sure,
yeah
and
I
could
look
for
that
as
well.
So
why
why
why
the
June
first
deadline,
we've
heard
that
staff
needs
some
more
time
to
oh?
J
Actually,
it
would
be
sooner
if
we
could
have
staff
sort
of
expedite
the
bylaw
change
and
get
it
back
to
council
a
bit
by
June
1st
would
be
the
soonest
that
that
could
be
done.
Any
particular
reason
why
June
1st,
as
opposed
to
May,
1st
or
April
1st
I,
don't
know
asking
staff
when,
when
reasonably,
they
could
complete
their
work
and
get
the
report
yeah
the
staff
feedback
said
that
they
could
actually
reasonably
complete
the
bylaw
change
and
get
that
back
to
council
before
July
June
first
well,
they
can't
do
it
sooner.
J
No,
no
I'm,
just
saying
it's!
Why
so
soon?
Why
not?
Oh,
because
scheduled
report
back
was
September
so
well,
that
is
sorry.
We're
time
there
sorry
about
that
counselor,
Carr
yeah!
Let's
just
continue
on
that!
Well,
I
I
am
questioning
why
you
didn't
wait
till
after
we
received
the
report
back
from
staff
due
in
September,
which
was
then
have
provided
us
evidence
upon
which
to
make
a
decision.
J
Well,
there's
two
things:
I
think
there
is
value
in
getting
that
evidence
and
that
report
back
which
we
could
still
very
much
do,
but
there's
also
the
the
the
advocacy
testimony
from
associations
from
businesses
themselves
to
say
this
is
causing
more
challenges
than
it
is
benefit,
and
this
has
been
incredibly
unpopular
since
the
day
of
its
Inception,
and
there
hasn't
so
there
hasn't
been
any
less
negative
feedback
around
this
tax.
J
Even
people
who
consider
themselves
climate
activists,
climate,
pro-climate
policies,
still
say
this
is
a
really
bad
policy
that
needs
to
be
changed.
We
should
discussed
this
with
the
businesses.
The
small
businesses
who
have
been
putting
into
place
programs
invest
absolutely
and
we
will
get
representation
from
many
of
those
sorry
counselor
you're,
a
Time
membership
associations
tomorrow,
sorry
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
Seeing
no
other
questions
would
someone
like
to
second
the
motion:
great
counselor
Kirby
young.
Now
we
have
received
requests
to
speak
to
this
I'm,
not
surprised.
If
Council
would
like
to
hear
the
speakers,
we
can
refer
the
motion
to
tomorrow's
standing
committee
on
policy
and
strategic
priorities,
meeting
on
Wednesday
February,
the
15th
2023,
which
starts
at
9
30
a.m.
Would
someone
like
to
move
referral
great?
Thank
you,
councilor
dominado.
Is
there
a
second
or
great
councilor
Montague?
Thank
you
all.
J
J
Efficiency
is
real,
it's
accelerating
it
has
incredible
damaging
damaging
effects
to
our
city
and
to
the
people
of
our
city,
including
the
loss
of
lives
and
incredible
Crossing
infrastructure
repair,
as
well
as
just
having
to
mitigate
the
actual
ghg
reductions
causing
causing
the
climate
change.
We
have
had
some
very
clear
goals
as
a
council
around
what
actions
we
want
to
take
in
our
climate
emergency
action
plan.
Those
goals,
however,
are
very
big
picture
goals
with
objectives
that
are
in
the
future
are
20
30
objectives.
J
However,
we
are
missing
our
goals.
We
are
not
getting
to
the
reductions
that
we
need
to,
and
we
have
said
that
we
are
aiming
to
and
in
part
one
has
to
question.
Then
what
is
it?
We
need
to
enable
us
to
get
there
in
my
mind
in
any
in
any
business
in
any
non-profit
Society
in
any
operation.
One
has
to
have
a
clear
plan
with
actual
real
measurable
activities,
a
report
on
those
activities
in
a
timely
way,
so
that
you
can
adjust
those
activities
if
they're
not
meeting
your
goal.
J
That
is
what
my
motion
is
about:
setting
a
carbon
budget,
making
sure
that
we
get
the
the
actual
line-by-9
items
with
Associated
reductions
in
ghg,
so
emission
reductions
that
will
help
us
get
to
our
Target
and
annual
reports
on
how
close
we
are
getting,
how
effective
those
actions
has
been
the
impacts
of
both
both
immediate
as
well
as
long
term,
in
terms
of
actions
that
may
reduce
other
costs
in
the
future
and
impacts
in
the
future
and
and
enabling
course
Corrections,
so
that
we
can
meet
those
obligations
in
your
time.
J
Sorry,
a
little
overtime,
I
apologize,
okay,
counselor,
Montague
yeah,
just
a
quick
question.
Has
there
been
any
thought
with
this
motion
regarding
possibly
inviting
the
auditor
general
into
way
impacts,
cost
versus
benefits
as
well?
J
J
Besides
them
himself
as
to
what
programs
he
undertakes,
suggestions
are
just
suggestions,
he
has
his
own
work
program.
Thank
you
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilor
dominato
thanks
mayor
thanks,
councilor
Carr,
just
I'm
curious.
If
you've,
given
some
further
thought
to
regulatory
changes
that
would
address
the
issues
which
I
know
you're
quite
passionate
about
you've
talked
a
lot
about
budget
Gap,
but
I'm
curious
about
the
regulatory
measures
that
might
be
needed
to
address
the
concerns.
I
think
absolutely
that's
part
of
the
the
program
to
achieve
the
reductions.
J
So
if
we
have
I
think
more
detailed
measures
outlined
for
us
the
expectations
around
how
the
ghds
will
be
reduced
regulatory
measures
to
implement
them,
and
not
just
necessarily
spending
but
regulatory
measures
measures
are
incredibly
effective,
but
we
could
do
that
within
the
context
of
looking
at
costs
and
benefits
and
impacts
and
outcomes.
Okay,
thank
you.
That's
my
time
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
Okay,
seeing
another!
No
other
questions
would
someone
like
to
second
the
motion:
counselor
Boyle.
Thank
you
very
much
now
we've
received
requests
to
speak
to
this
motion.
If
Council
would
like
to
hear
the
speakers,
we
can
refer
the
motion
to
tomorrow's
standing
committee
on
policy
and
strategic
priorities,
meeting
on
Wednesday
February,
the
15th
2023,
which
starts
at
9
30
a.m.
Would
someone
like
to
move
referral?
Okay,
thank
you,
councilor
dominato
seconded
by
counselor
Joe.
Thank
you
all.
Those
in
favor
say
yay
great.
J
The
motion
is
referred
to
tomorrow's
standing
committee
meeting,
okay,
so
notices
of
council
member
motion.
So
this
is
we're
going
to
slow
down
because
last
time
to
kind
of
skipped
through
a
couple
of
things,
are
there
notices
of
council
member
motions
for
upcoming
Council
meetings.
J
Yes,
mayor,
there
are
have
still
during
the
probation
period.
Let
me
tell
you:
okay,
councilor
Meisner,
thank
you
yeah,
so
proposing
a
motion
for
the
next
council
meeting.
Title
is
flag
raising
at
City
Hall
to
recognize
Black
History
Month
in
Vancouver
in
2024.
J
great
great,
and
you
did
that
okay
and
I
I,
just
as
a
reminder,
so
you
this
is
for
other
people
if
they
have
anything
else
reminder
to
please
State
the
title
of
the
motion
and
the
date
of
the
council
meeting
on
which
do
you
intend
to
mute
the
motion
and
be
sure
to
send
the
title
via
email
to
the
city
clerk,
so
we're
all
good
awesome.
Thank
you.
Seeing
no
one
else
in
the
queue
last
call
we're
good
great.
Thank
you
very
much
new
business.
J
We
have
one
item
of
new
business
on
the
agenda
today,
which
are
requests
for
leaves
of
absence
as
follows:
counselor.
J
A
little
gun
shy,
you're,
looking
at
me
a
little
anyways
counselor
fry
for
civic
business,
for
meetings
on
February,
the
23rd
2023
from
9
30
a.m,
to
10
p.m,
and
counselor
dominato.
For
personal
reasons,
for
meetings
on
February,
the
23rd
2023
from
5
PM
to
10
p.m.
Would
someone
like
to
move
them
and
mine?
J
Oh
I
was
going
to
put
that
later.
Thank
you,
sorry
and
there's
a
few
for
me
on
February
the
14th
from
7
P.M
to
9
00
P.M
for
civic
business;
pardon
10
P.M!
J
Thank
you
very
much
on
March,
the
28th
from
5
p.m,
to
10
p.m,
for
civic
business
on
March,
the
29th
from
6
p.m,
onwards,
for
personal
reasons,
on
April,
the
26th
from
4
P.M
onwards,
for
civic
business
and
on
May
20
or
May
11
2023
from
noon
onwards.
For
personal
reasons,
would
someone
like
to
move
the
motion?
Great
sorry
was
that
counselor
dominato
is
there
a
secondary,
said:
counselor
Kirby
young,
all
those
in
favor
say
yay
yay.
All
those
opposing
a
motion
carries
unanimously
Council.
J
Okay,
may
we
have
a
motion?
Oh
sorry,
right,
counselor,
dominato,
thanks
Mary
yeah,
a
couple
of
inquiries
and
just
and
sharing
of
information.
One
is
just
to
highlight
and
I
did
share
this
with
Marin
council
is
that
the
tashmi
Historical
Society
has
reached
Joe
up
to
us,
in
particular
the
mayor
of
District
of
Hope,
with
respect
to
the
historic
Hope
Station
and
they
are
participating
in
a
national
contest.
J
National
Trust
specifically
focused
on
Heritage
sites
and
the
reason
I
bring
it
up
is
that
they
have
reached
out
to
us
asking
us
to
support
them.
We
can
vote
each
day
up
till
February
22nd
in
support
of
the
historic
Hope
Station
and
the
reason
it
is
important
to
the
tashmi
community
is
to
Japanese
Canadians.
J
Is
that
I
think
roughly
8
000
Japanese
Canadians
went
through
that
station
to
tashmian
tournament
camp
and
many
of
those
individuals
were
displaced
from
Vancouver,
and
so
just
sharing
that
they
are
are
hopeful
of
winning
fifty
thousand
dollars
towards
the
restoration
of
of
that
station.
It
was
at
risk
of
being
demolished
and
then
the
tashmi
historical
society
intervened,
and
now
they
are
participating
in
this
national
campaign
contest,
and
so
anyone
could
vote
and
you
can
vote
once
a
day
and
they
would
love
our
support.
J
They're
one
of
two
BC
projects
that
are
narrowed
down
to
10
10
participants,
so
sharing
that
I
have
a
couple
of
others.
That
I
just
want
to
share
is
one
is
again
thanks
and
gratitude
to
the
federal
government
for
their
support
yesterday
to
Chinatown
and
the
revitalized
edition
of
Chinatown
I.
Think
most
of
us
were
there,
and
it
was
really
wonderful
to
see
that
support
and
so
again
just
reiterating
that.
J
Thirdly,
on
the
subject
of
just
sharing
the
ongoing
concerns
of
businesses
along
the
Broadway
Corridor.
Well,
we
all
welcome
the
Broadway
line,
expansion
to
Arbutus
and
hopefully
out
to
UBC
in
the
future.
J
There
continues
to
be
concerns
from
the
businesses
and
Merchants
along
that
area
and
and
I
know
that
we
will
be
receiving
a
report
back
from
staff
in
the
next
month
or
two
around
potential
opportunities
for
relief,
but
I
I
think
we
also
need
to
renew
a
call
to
the
province
as
well
and
in
advocating
for
those
businesses
and
support
for
them.
So
again
just
a
reflection
there
and
then.
Lastly,
because
I
don't
think
we'll
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
this
directly.
I
think
Mary.
J
You
may
have
comments
tomorrow,
but
around
pink
shirt
day
is
that
next
Wednesday
is
pink
shirt
day
and
as
a
council
we've
always
worn
pink
shirts.
I
think
we'll
be
doing
that
tomorrow,
but
I
think
it's
some
really
important,
and
especially
on
the
heels
of
the
motion
that
counselor
Joe
brought
a
reminder
about
the
importance
of
addressing
bullying
discrimination,
violence
in
our
schools.
It
started
in
the
schools
in
Nova
Scotia.
J
It
was
I'm
honored
to
call
Travis
Price
a
friend,
and
he
was
one
of
the
young
people
who
started
this
movement,
but
also
in
our
workplaces
in
our
communities,
and
we
heard
our
Park
Board
Commissioners
talking
about
this
Brendan
last
night
about
in
sport,
but
also
in
politics
and
so
I.
Look
forward
to
us
doing,
I
think
a
photo
tomorrow,
but
I
just
wanted
to
reflect
that
I
think
it's
really
important
opportunity
to
to
challenge
what's
going
on
in
some
of
our
communities
in
our
workplaces
and
our
schools.
J
Thank
you
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilor
dominato
counselor
Claussen.
Thank
you
mayor.
Just
a
couple
of
quick
items.
First
of
all,
I
just
want
to
wish
everybody
here
and
and
the
rest
of
the
people
work
for
the
City
Vancouver
a
Happy
Valentine's
Day
I
also
want
to
present
just
a
little
bit
of
an
update.
There
was
a
question
from
councilor
Boyle
recently
with
regard
to
The
Folk
Fest
I
just
have
some
a
very,
very
brief
update.
I
spoke
again.
J
I
was
contacted
today
by
representative
of
the
Folk
Fest
board,
and
that
I
can
say
is
that
they
are
still
actively
looking
at
options
to
continue
the
festival
in
some
form.
It
may
be
very
small.
It
may
be
as
small
as
one
day
it
may
be
at
a
different
venue
or
different
location,
but
it
certainly
sounds
like
the
the
organizers
there
are
turning
over
every
stone
to
try
and
make
this
Marquee
cultural
event
continue.
J
Despite
the
challenges
that
we're
hearing
around
the
community
about
events
like
this
in
general,
the
costs
of
the
utilities
that
they
use
the
cost
of
security,
the
cost
of
fencing
everything
has
gone
up
through
covet
and
unfortunately,
it's
making
it
harder
and
harder
for
these
these
joyous
occasions
to
happen.
But
they
are
certainly
feeling
support
from
from
here.
J
The
people
here
in
the
city
council,
chamber
and
and
across
the
community,
so
I
remain
ever
hopeful
that
that
the
Folk
Festival
will
be
able
to
continue
in
other
festivals,
like
it
we'll
continue
to
carry
on
and
thrive
in
the
years
ahead.
Thanks
very
much
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
Claussen,
counselor,
Boyle
and
I
too,
have
been
in
regular
touch
with
the
Folk
Festival
folks,
so
appreciate
that
update
publicly.
My
question
is
around:
are
we
on
inquiries?
J
Yeah,
we're
inquiries
and
other
matters
trying
to
read
your
facial
expressions
I
said,
make
sure
I'm
in
the
right
place
council's
been
receiving
a
number
of
emails
about
lease
renewals
of
temporary
modular
housing
sites.
Lar
will
and
then
other
upcoming
lease
renewals
I
know
a
question's
been
submitted,
but
I
wonder
wondered
if
staff
had
a
response
for
now
or
if
we
could
get
more
detail
back
to
be
able
to
reassure
those
members
of
the
public
we're
hearing
from
that
were
that
were
working
on
it.
J
So
thanks
counselor
for
the
question
so
yeah,
the
the
the
license.
Agreements
that
are
expiring
this
year
are
is
Laurel
Park
and
right
now
the
BC
housing
is
working
with
the
operator
there
on
finding
alternate
housing
for
the
folks
at
that
site.
The
city's
involved
with
that
as
well
the
other
license
agreements,
lease
Agreements
are
not
expiring
imminently
and
certainly
for
City
Sites
we're
looking
at
extending
those.
J
So
we
can
provide
council
with
a
more
detailed
kind
of
overview
of
when
those
other
arrangements
are
due
to
expire
and
what
we're
doing
with
each
of
them,
but
yeah.
The
the
immediate
work
that's
happening
right
now
is
around
Largo
Park
I
appreciate
that
and
as
a
follow-up
question
wondering
if
the
physical
buildings
at
Largo
site,
if
we're
looking
at
other
sites
around
the
city
for
relocating
those,
so
we're
not
seeing
a
net
loss
of
spaces
yeah
that
that's
a
another
good
question
and
a
challenging
one.
J
The
the
work
that
BC
has
housing
has
done
subsequent
to
the
original
installation
of
those
temper
modular
buildings
that
that
the
the
temporary
aspect
of
them
is
extremely
expensive.
So
the
the
move,
the
disassembly
and
and
movement
to
another
site
for
another
short-term
period
of
time,
we've
now
discovered,
is
not
economically
feasible.
So
this
original
tmh
program,
where
we're
looking
at
five
to
ten
year
Windows,
what
we've
heard
from
BC
housing
is,
is
that
that's
not
actually
a
workable
model.
J
What
we're
looking
for
is
more
longer
term
sites,
so
the
permanent
module,
Supportive
Housing
program,
of
course,
are
it's
a
different
type
of
building,
but
that
we're
now
focusing
on
that,
so
that
that's
one
kind
of
challenge
I
think
that
we're
facing
there
and
we're
always
looking
at
opportunities
for
sites.
We've
got
the
new
Workforce
module
that
are
coming
on:
Main,
Street
and
Ash
Street.
J
So
still
looking
at
those
opportunities
in
terms
of
the
specific
plans
for
these
two
structures
at
Laura,
all
those
two
buildings,
I,
don't
actually
know
the
answer,
but
I
can
follow
up
on
on
that.
I
would
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
councilor
Carr.
J
Thank
you
that
question
and
answer
prompted
me
to
just
continue
with
a
question
there.
The
buildings
are
phenomenal,
I've
toured
them
right
from
the
beginning.
The
housing
is
in.
You
know,
superb
housing
that
meets
a
need.
So
when
you
say
that
you
are
just
at
the
very
end
stage
that
you're
looking
at
potential
permanent
sites,
I
am
I'm
interested
in
asking.
J
Would
those
be
City
lands
or
private
lands?
Or
you
know
what
are
the
whole
gamut
and
yeah?
So
that's
right
so
yeah
thanks
counselor.
So
so
our
team
is
looking
at
sites
for
Supportive
Housing.
As
you
know,
we've
got
the
permanent
Supportive,
Housing
modular
modular
housing
initiative
that
we're
working
with
BC
housing.
J
The
300
units
that
we
have
committed
to
the
Focus
right
now
is
for
that
generally,
the
sites
that
we
have
in
Vancouver
Jimmy
will
accommodate
more
density
than
than
those
buildings
like
those
buildings
are
generally
too
low
density
to
make
good
use
of
city
land.
We
would
be
looking
for
much
many
more
units,
more
dense
kind
of
structures,
so
I
I
don't
want
to
preclude
that.
That
would
ever
be
the
case.
J
So
yeah,
our
the
our
the
team
in
Market
housing,
is
looking
at
sites
generally.
Our
Focus
right
now
is
on
those
300
units
and
making
sure
that
we
can
deliver
on
that
mou
with
BC
housing
again
with
respect
to
BC
housing's
plans,
because
they
own
these
two
buildings.
What
their
plans
are
for
these
units-
I
I,
don't
know,
but
I
can
I
can
follow
up
and
are
they
movable
over
longer
distances
am
I.
You
answer
Yeah
question
right
away,
which
was
I
wanted
to
confirm.
J
J
Thank
you
very
much,
so
I
asked
the
court
I
do
have
to
see
the
chair
when
I
ask
a
question
or
no
we're
good
I,
just
the
point
of
procedures,
so
I
know
for
next
time,
because
this
is
a
you
know,
a
new
sensation
for
me
when
we
go
through
inquiries
and
other
matters,
do
we
have
that
level
of
ETL
of
questions?
Is
that
the
forum
for
this
or
do
we
have
it
somewhere?
So
I
I
just
want
to
know
because
I
I
don't
know?
Is
this
normal?
Okay?
That's
all
you
need
to
know.
J
Thank
you
very
much.
You
Council
can
ask
whatever
you
want.
Okay,
awesome,
what
the
expectation
was
here
so
but
I
didn't
want
to
cut
it
off.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that
clarification.
Okay.
On
that
note,
may
we
haven't
seen
anyone
else
in
the
queue
here.
May
we
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
counselor
class
and
seconded
counselor
Bly,
all
in
favor,
say
yay
yay,
all
the
polls
say
nay.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.
Thank
you
very
much.