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Auditor General Committee
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Attended by Council that have been appointed as committee members and City Clerk
- Chair: to be appointed
A
If
any
committee
council
member
loses
connection
during
the
voting
process,
we
have
staff
on
hand
to
facilitate
getting
all
right,
and
we
will
now
proceed
to
our
item
of
business
on
today's
agenda.
The
2022
auditor
general
operating
budget
does
any
committee
member
wish
to
declare.
I
believe
we
have
a
powerpoint
with
that
as
well.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
fair
fry
and
auditor
general
committee
members
for
having
me
here
today
to
present
the
first
budget
for
the
city
of
vancouver's
office
of
the
auditor
general.
In
accordance
with
the
process
described
in
section
5.3
of
the
auditor
general
bylaw,
my
budget
request
is
handled
separately
from
the
city's
overall
budget
process.
B
In
my
brief
presentation,
I'm
going
to
be
less
than
10
minutes,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
three
things.
First,
I'll
talk
about
the
three
factors
that
drive
my
budget.
If
anyone
can
recall
the
document
produced
by
the
canadian
audit
and
accountability
foundation
in
2020
outlining
the
process
for
establishing
the
auditor
general's
office,
each
of
these
items
are
identified.
So
there
really
should
be
no
surprises
here.
Next
will
be
the
actual
budget
request
itself.
It's
this
pretty
small
office.
B
So
the
first
budget
driver
is
staffing.
It's
the
single
largest
driver
comprising
eighty
percent
of
the
total
cost,
and
that's
the
salaries
and
benefits
for
me
and
the
eight
staff
I
intend
to
hire
over
the
course
of
the
year.
This
includes
also
training
to
meet
professional
standards
and
ensure
that
new
staff
are
ready
to
perform
the
staffing
plan
that
underlies
this
figure
was
outlined.
B
In
my
100-day
presentation
to
the
auditor
general
committee
on
september
17th
and
there
I
outlined
a
staged
process
starting
first
with
senior
staff
who
I
expect
to
have
in
place
by
february,
followed
by
operational
and
support
staff
following
in
march
and
in
april.
So
the
end
of
q1
and
the
beginning
of
q2
second
driver
is
contracted
services,
and
this
represents
14
of
the
budget.
I
appreciate
that
this
line
item
can
be
challenging
for
those
approving
budgets
they
see
contractor
and
the
first
inclination
is
to
assume
it's
something
that
can
easily
be
done
without
challenges.
B
B
So
there's
two
significant
unknowns
underlying
my
estimate
for
this.
This
figure
first
is
the
nature
of
the
project
selected.
That's
going
to
drive
the
figure
and,
as
you
know,
my
audit
plan
is
not
due
to
be
presented
to
the
auditor
general
committee
until
the
end
of
january.
So
it's
still
a
work
in
progress.
B
The
other
side
is
the
skill
set
of
my
team,
given
that
staff
are
only
in
the
process
of
being
hired.
I
can
only
assume
at
this
point
what
expertise
they're
going
to
going
to
have.
So,
given
these
uncertainties,
I've
used
my
best
estimate
of
what's
going
to
be
needed.
The
next
component
of
contracted
services
is
contractors
to
provide
quality
assurance
review
to
meet
canadian
audit
standards
and
also
the
practice
requirements
of
the
chartered
professional
accountants
of
british
columbia
that
license
my
office.
B
B
The
third
budget
driver
is
in
the
form
of
one-time
cost,
to
set
up
the
office
representing
four
percent
of
the
budget.
There's
three
components
to
this:
first:
there's
a
one-time
cost
to
purchase
and
set
up
audit
software.
The
amount
I've
included
here
is
reflective
of
the
cost
that
the
auditor
general
for
local
government's
office
experienced
when
they
set
up
the
same
software
I'll
work
with
my
senior
team,
of
course,
once
they're
hired
to
explore.
If
we
can
either
trim
this
cost
or
look
at
an
alternative
service
provider
at
a
lower
cost.
B
The
second
one
time
cost
relates
to
the
physical
setup
and
configuration
of
my
office
as
an
independent
audit
office
independent
from
the
city's
staff
and
functioning.
There
is
a
need
for
a
physical
separation
and
without
getting
into
details.
We
don't
have
that
now,
but
because
it's
a
matter
of
security
and
an
issue
that
security
is
actively
monitoring.
It's
already
come
to
my
attention
that
there
is
a
bona
bonafide
need
for
this.
The
city's
facilities
department
has
provided
an
estimate
to
put
walls
and
and
security
in
place,
but
they've
also
indicated
that
there'll
be
minimal.
B
Direct
cost
to
this
budget
since
it
off
it's
an
operational
activity,
that's
anticipated
under
the
budget
for
the
city's
office
accommodation
plan
and,
lastly,
this
it
configuration
it
represents
the
per
staff
chargeback
from
the
city's
I.t
department
for
initial
equipment,
purchase
and
setup.
Please
note
have
not
asked
for
separate
email,
server
or
separate
secure
file,
storage
server,
which
would
have
had
significant
cost
impacts
associated
with
them.
Instead
of
chosen
to
work
with
the
city's,
I
t
department
to
find
a
way.
That's
more
cost
effective.
I
I'll
come
back
to
that
topic
in
just
a
moment.
B
Now
I
take
the
value
from
any
component
of
my
mandate
seriously
and
believe
it
should
begin
nowhere
more
than
right
here
in
my
office,
and
that
should
be
right
off
the
get-go
I'd
like
to
point
out
some
of
the
cost-saving
efforts
I've
made
in
putting
this
budget
together.
First
of
all,
is
the
delay
in
hiring
you
may
recall.
In
my
100-day
plan
I
was
going
to
hire
some
admin
support
fairly
early
on,
and
indeed
I
have
room
for
that
in
the
current
year's
budget
for
2021,
but
reality
is
in
good
conscience.
B
I
could
not
hire
someone
and
not
have
them
fully
engaged,
so
instead
I've
I've
been
managing
my
own
calendar
and
email
doing
my
own
documents,
maybe
not
as
well
as
somebody
else
might
have,
but
but
good
enough,
and
I
sought
support
from
the
city
clerk's
office,
where
needed,
meaning
that
I've
been
able
to
delay
the
hiring
of
this
position
until
q2.
B
I've
also
delayed
hiring
a
field
staff
until
the
end
of
q1
or
early
q2.
When
we'll
have
the
senior
management
team
in
place
to
put
them
to
work
now
as
an
independent
office,
the
case
can
be
made
to
keep
it
fully
separate
from
the
city
of
vancouver
services,
and
indeed
some
auditors
general
across
the
country.
Do
this
very
thing
and
insist
on
it?
B
B
I've
been
using
internal
hr
resources
to
to
conduct
staffing
and
recruitment,
rather
than
using
an
external
recruitment
agency
which
could
have
been
justified,
especially
for
the
senior
positions
I'm
using
it.
Support
for
secure
file,
storage,
email
and
web
page
services.
B
Now,
there's
a
there's,
a
potential
issue
here
and
we're
going
to
need
to
ensure
it's
operating
with
integrity.
In
the
meantime,
I'm
operating
under
a
good
faith
assumption
that
all
is,
as
has
been
told
to
me,
I'll,
be
having
further
conversations
about
this
with
the
new
city's
new
chief
technology
officer
on
monday
next
week,
training
I'm
going
to
do
much
of
the
foundational
staff
training
myself,
having
some
experience
in
in
doing
that.
B
Much
like
I
did
the
audit
orientation
training
for
council
myself
rather
than
bringing
in
an
external
facilitator
and,
lastly,
we'll
be
relying
on
on
the
city's
legal
services
rather
than
bringing
in
external
counsel,
except
perhaps
in
specialized
cases.
I
combined
these
efforts
have
reduced
my
budget
request
rather
significantly.
B
B
I
believe
this
is
entirely
consistent
with
the
potential
cost
described
to
council
by
the
canadian
audit
and
accountability
foundation,
and
indeed
not
for
the
decisions
described
in
my
previous
slide.
It
would
have
been
considerably
higher
now
I
present
this
for
context.
I
appreciate
that
this
committee
cannot
approve
the
budget
for
a
few
years,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
how
a
transitional
2022
budget
stacks
up
in
relation
to
a
full
year
of
operations.
B
A
Thanks
mike
committee
members,
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
add
yourself
to
the
crestron
q,
archie
and
karen.
You
may
use
the
raise
hand,
function
which
is
located
on
the
lower
right
of
the
webex
first,
one
on
the
queue.
A
True
thing
and
first
on
the
queue
is
counselor
hardwick.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
This
is
consistent
with
the
research
that
I
did
looking
at
comparable
departments
across
the
country
in
terms
of
of
size
and
and
breakdown
of
of
the
budget.
I'm
actually
looking
forward
now
that
we
have
this
to
to
run
a
bit
of
a
comparison.
D
I
wanted
to
hear
more
about
the
it
configuration
since
we
do
live
in
an
era
of
dirty
tricks.
Why
have
you
taken
the
position
that
you
had?
Could
you
elaborate
on
that
a
little
bit
more?
Why
are
you
being
not
more
protective.
B
Well,
there's
a
couple
of
reasons
for
that:
councilor
hardwick.
The
the
first
is
is
that
the
city
is
actually
moving
away
from
hardened
infrastructure
or
file
storage
and
is
moving
towards
a
cloud-based
pilot,
and
so
actually
I'm
one
of
the
first
groups.
That's
moving
towards
that.
B
So
what
that
that
means
is
that
the
files
will
be
stored
in
the
cloud
in
a
secure
area
that
only
certain
people
will
have
access
to
it's
cost-effective,
it's
in
compliant
with
privacy
legislation
and
that
the
the
cloud
storage
is
entirely
within
canada
and
it
you
know
it
just
makes
sense
in
this
modern
era
where
it
can
be
accessed
from
wherever
staff
happen
to
be
working.
B
It
is
a
bit
of
a
leap
of
good
faith.
If
you
will,
I
could
have
gone
for
a
more
secure
file
storage
having
having
a
hardened
file
server
right
right
here
in
our
premises,
but
I
had
to
look
at
the
the
costs
and
the
potential
risk.
I
think
that
that
risk
of
inappropriate
access
can
be
mitigated
through,
quite
frankly,
a
bit
of
audit
procedures
that
I'm
more
than
happy
to
have.
My
staff
undertake.
D
D
Just
wondering
if
there
are
any
alignments
there,
it's
clear
that
you've
done
forward
thinking
on
your
on
your
budget
and
the
numbers
are
consistent
with
what
I
would
have
expected.
Based
on
the
research.
I
was
prepared
to
come
in
and
pick
the
budget
apart,
but
it's
you've
made
that
difficult
to
do.
D
Yeah
could.
Could
you
also
provide
a
like
a
gantt
chart
or
or
a
calendar
that
would
show
when
you
would
see
different
staff
coming
on
board?
Just
I
think
it's
helpful
to
be
able
to
contextualize
that
for
counts
or
for
this
committee.
A
C
Yeah,
thank
you
and
thanks
mike
for
the
presentation.
The
question
that
I
have
is
you've
got
a
budget
ask
with
a
small
amount
of
one-time
cost
of
approximately
1.6
altogether,
and
I
believe
when
council
was
deliberating
on
establishing
the
office
for
the
auditor
general,
the
estimate
for
a
full
year
when
the
service
was
up
and
running,
was
approximately
two
million
dollars.
My
question
to
you
so
that
we
are
equipped
to
answer
it
also
because
it
will
probably
get
asked
by
our
council
colleagues
is
with
the
hiring
of
staff
which
you've
indicated.
C
B
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Counselor
kirby
young
I've
tried
to
be
realistic,
as
opposed
to
either
optimistic
or
pessimistic.
We
are
currently
in
the
process
of
recruiting
a
deputy
auditor
general
and
two
senior
staff,
and
I'm,
I
guess,
I'm
keeping
my
fingers
crossed
that
we
get
qualified
applicants.
B
I've
certainly
been
shaking
the
tree
personally
and
through
my
network,
and
but
I
don't
yet
know
who
has
applied
and
it
doesn't
actually
close
until
sunday,
so
we'll
know
better
next
week
what
that
looks
like
I'm,
allowing
a
reasonable
amount
of
time
to
conduct
proper
interviews
to
to
do
proper
background
checks
and
then
to
allow
these
senior
positions
appropriate
time
to
give
notice,
assuming
that
they
are,
they
are
presently
employed
elsewhere
in
in
similar
roles.
So
so
it
is
a
staged
process.
B
I
planned
it
out
month
by
month
and
it's
it's
as
it's
as
good
a
a
guesstimate
as
I
can
put
together
knowing
what
I
know
now,
neither
optimistic
nor
pessimistic.
C
Second,
question
is:
what
does
a
full
year's
budget
look
like,
given
that
this
accounts
for
staff
starting
part
way
through
the
year?
So
what
could
counsel
expect
to
fulfill
your
budget
in
2023,
for
example,.
B
Well,
if
knowing
what
I
know
today
and
what
I've
projected
on
on
the
eighth
slide
in
the
presentation,
was
that
the
the
full
strength
pro
forma
budget
would
be
approximately
1.9
million
dollars,
so
just
below
the
two
million
dollar
mark,
it
would
have
been
over
two
million
dollars,
though,
if
I'd
taken
a
different
approach
say
for
renting
premises
from
the
private
sector
rather
than
using
city
buildings.
B
C
Okay,
that's
that's
very
helpful
because
I'm
sure
that
council
will
have
similar
questions
and
it's
that's
sort
of
our
job
to
be
able
to
respond
to
those.
So
thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
context.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
weeb.
E
Yeah,
I
have
a
few
questions.
I
was
actually
surprised
at
the
limited
amount
of
data
that
was
provided
in
your
report.
My
first
question
is:
what
is
the
total
value
of
the
cost
savings,
including
staffing
that
you've
presented
recognizing
says
it
could
have
been
quite
a
bit
larger
and
what
is
the
value
of
the
in-kind
cost
to
the
city.
B
So
there's
the
the
two
components:
if
you
have
a
quick
peek
at
slide,
eight
we're
looking
at
approximately
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
shopping
costs
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
contracted
services
and,
of
course,
there's
the
one-time
cost
of
64
000
that
will
not
be
incurred
in
future
years
so
that
together
sort
of
outlines
what
the
difference
is
between
this
transitional
year,
this
partial
year
and
the
and
and
what
a
full
year
would
look
like.
I'm
now.
B
The
second
part
of
your
question,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
sure
that
I
understood
what
you
were
asking
for
a
week.
E
Well,
yeah,
when
I
was
with
the
provincial
government,
we
moved
to
billing
out
for
all
the
in-kind
services
that
are
provided
by
the
department.
So
for
you,
you
said
hr
all
those
services
that
you
are
getting
in
kind
from
the
city
of
vancouver.
What
is
the
valuation
that
you
are
putting
to
that
number.
B
I
I
haven't,
because
I
haven't
been
provided
with
any
information
from
the
city
that
would
allow
me
to
do
that.
My
understanding
is
that
those
services
are
not
routinely
charged
back
to
operational
departments
within
the
city.
So
there
really
wasn't
a
mechanism
to
to
estimate
say,
for
instance,
the
cost
of
hr
to
support
recruitment.
B
E
B
Right,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
sure
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
the
one
million
dollar
envelope
you're
referring
to
so.
E
In
our
in
our
budget,
that's
in
front
of
us
for
deliberation.
If
you
look
at
it
talks
about
there
being
a
one-time
or
one
million
dollars,
let
me
pull
it
up
right
now,
there'll
be
a
one
million
dollars
for
ongoing
funding,
as
well
as
nine
million
as
one
time.
This
is
the
allocation,
as
consideration
c
is
part
of
our
capital
operating
budget,
that's
being
brought
forward
to
council,
so
I'm
just
wondering
recognizing
that
your
funding
is
not
included
in
the
five
percent.
B
The
the
one-time
component
is
is
identifies
at
64
000.
B
In
order
to
to
do
the
work
and
meet
canadian
auditing
standards,
there
will
be
an
ongoing
budget
for
contracted
services.
So
it's
far
more
cost
effective
to
have
somebody
come
in
work
for
a
few
hours,
provide
quality
control
work
than
to
have
somebody
permanently
on
staff
to
provide
that
at
a
considerably
higher
cost.
So
I
think
you'll
find
that
that's
a
fairly
common
practice
in
small
offices
certainly
was
for
the
auditor
general
for
local
government.
B
They
had
an
ongoing
contractor
budget
that
they
brought
in
quality
control,
reviewers
technical
expertise
and
subject
matter
experts
with
respect
to
subject
matter,
experts
they're
going
to
change
from
project
to
project,
depending
on
what
we're.
Looking
at
so
we'll
appreciate
that
a
subject
matter,
expert,
say
in
in
engineering,
is
going
to
be
quite
different
than
a
subject
matter
expert
we
might
bring
in
to
look
at
an
I.t
project
and
that
will
change
from
from
project
to
project.
E
B
B
The
figures
that
I've
used
for
estimating
costs
are
pretty
consistent
with
what
say
the
auditor
general
for
local
government
would
do
for
the
kinds
of
audits
that
they
did
across
the
province
in
various
different
areas
and
and
in
conferring
with
my
colleagues
it's
it's
it's
in
the
right
ballpark.
So
you
know
looking
at
similar-sized
offices
in
other
parts
of
the
country
ottawa
halifax.
What
not
our
contracted
costs
or
excuse
me,
my
contract
budget
is
is
very
similar.
A
B
Well,
I
can't
really
say
that
I
can
utilize
them
in
the
sense
that
that
presents
an
inherent
conflict
of
interest
either
you're
part
of
the
audit
team
or
you're
part
of
the
city
team.
So
I'm
very
open,
though,
if
any
members
of
the
city
staff
be
that
in
the
internal
audit
department,
for
instance,
or
other
groups,
are
interested
in
coming
over
to
the
auditor
general's
office,
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
to
look
at
those
applications
and
they
they
will
have
to
the
same
process
as
anyone
else.
A
Great
thanks,
counselor
weed,
okay
and
I
see
no
further
questions
and
since
there
are
no
public
speakers
registered
to
speak
to
this
item,
we
can
go
to
debate
and
decision.
Would
anyone
like
to
move
emotion
and
is
there
any
discussion?
Sorry.
F
I'll
just
lower
it
now
I
I
guess
you
know
the
overall
budget.
I
don't
really
have
any
comments
on,
but
just
looking
ahead
to
the
three-year
plan
that
you'll
be
presenting
to
the
committee,
does
the
amount
of
resources
you're
requesting
align
with
your
preliminary
thinking
about
what
you
plan
to
do
over
the
next
three
years?.
B
Oh,
I
think
that
that
question
karen
and
and
yes,
it
is
consistent.
That
being
said,
that
that
plan
is
not
finalized
and
it's
a
it's.
It's
a
moving
target.
If
you
will
you'll
appreciate
that,
there's
some
projects
that
are
larger
than
others,
some
projects
that
are
going
to
be
more
complicated
than
others
and
will
mean
that
we'll
need
more
subject
matter
expertise
in
some
areas
than
in
others.
B
There's
a
there's
a
risk
in
in
performance
audit
for
trying
to
take
on
too
much
having
too
large
a
scope,
and
what
that
inevitably
means
is
that
projects
drag
on
for
far
too
long
and
it's
it's
an
issue.
That's
plagued
auditors,
general
across
the
country
at
all
levels,
federal,
provincial
and
and
local
government,
and
it's
something
that
I
want
to
avoid
by
having
that
that
healthy
mix
and
focusing
being
very
clear
on
what
our
scope
is
in
particular
areas.
B
A
A
D
F
A
Okay,
great
okay,
so
we
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
Any
would
you
like
to
speak
to
it.
A
Okay,
so
an
amendment
cue
is
that
how
we
work
clerk,
it's
just.
A
C
Yeah
thanks
chair
and
I
want
to
thank
our
new
auditor
general
mike
mcdonnell,
for
the
presentation,
the
preparation
of
the
budget.
I
appreciate
the
fiscal
prudence
that
has
gone
into
its
preparation
and
the
contextual
explanation
beforehand.
C
C
I
think
that
this
represents
a
very
responsible
approach
in
terms
of
still
being
able
to
utilize
civic
facilities
and
that
in
terms
of
maintaining
value
for
the
taxpayer,
and
I'm
appreciative
of
that,
the
job
of
this
committee
now
just
in
terms
of
the
public
understanding
what's
next,
is
to
take
this
forward
as
part
of
the
budget
deliberations
that
are
coming
before
council,
which
are
upcoming
at
the
early
december.
C
As
council
knows,
and
I
think
it's
also
important
to
note
that
you
won't
see
this
line
item
contained
in
the
original
draft
budget,
because
this
meeting
procedurally
needed
to
happen
prior
to
that
meeting.
In
order
for
the
ag
to
formally
endorse
a
budget
recommendation
and
the
specific
amount
of
the
requirement
and
then
bring
that
forward,
so
that
will
be
the
committee's
job
to
do
that
and
integrate
it
into
the
budget
process.
C
C
The
only
sort
of
major
city
in
canada
that
does
not
yet
have
this
function
of
the
independent
auditor,
which
is
we
know,
is
different
than
internal
audit
functions
that
most
cities
have
had
for
a
much
longer
period
of
time,
and
I
am
really
looking
forward
to
some
of
the
initial
reports
that
will
come
forward
from
the
office
and
the
role
that
they
will
play
in
building,
and,
I
would
also
say,
quite
frankly,
rebuilding,
I
think,
the
confidence
of
taxpayers
in
vancouver,
and
I'm
also
hopeful
that
our
auditor
general
it
really
takes
to
heart.
C
So
a
lot
of
the
good
work
that
has
been
done
by
counterparts
across
the
country
where
this
function
has
really
demonstrated
a
very
strong
roi
in
terms
of
being
able
to
identify
efficiencies
and
opportunities
for
better
leveraging
of
budgets,
or
you
know
how
services
are
contracted
out
and
a
number
of
pieces.
So
it's
it's
been
a
lot
of
work
to
get
here.
C
I
appreciate
councilor
hardwick's
leadership
on
it,
the
work
of
the
recruitment
committee
and
the
work
of
this
committee
ongoing
now
and
I'm
looking
forward
for
it
becoming
tangible
for
the
public
when
first
audit
reports
start
to
be
released,
and
hopefully
we'll
see
one
or
two
of
those
next
year.
So
I'm
happy
to
support
this,
and
I
appreciate
the
work
and
bringing
it
forward.
E
Yeah,
I
guess
I
wonder
if
I
can
ask
a
point
of
information
through
you
to
mike
sure
mine
would
be
on
the
use
of
the
word
endorse
to
this
committee.
I'm
just
wondering
why
you
felt
it
was
important
to
have
this
committee
endorse
this
prior
to
going
to
council
for
approval.
B
Thank
you
for
the
question
counselor
we
it's
my
understanding
that
the
auditor
general
bylaw
spells
out
the
process
and
that
this
committee
is
required
to
make
a
recommendation
to
counsel
for
my
budget.
If
you
want
to
talk
about
endorse,
I've
presented
you
with
a
figure
and
I'm
hoping
that
you
will
be
comfortable
recommending
that
figure
to
counsel
and
hence
endorsing
my
budget
request.
E
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that.
I
think
this
is
really
important.
I
really
appreciate
that
this
has
moved
forward
and
everyone
behind
getting
it
to
this
point.
Currently,
as
is
this,
will
increase
the
property
tax
that
we
are
currently
looking
at,
recognizing
that
this
is
not
included
and
the
budget
being
brought
before
us.
A
F
Okay,
great
yes,
thank
you.
Okay,.
D
Well,
I
just
wanted
to
say
looking
at
this
and
again
tracking
it
back
to
the
research.
That's
been
done
in
the
area.
What
I'm
seeing
here
is
an
example
of
leading
by
example,
and
that's
tremendous
that
the
auditor
general
has
shown
that
he
takes
value
for
money
seriously
into
consideration,
showing
us
what
he's
done
versus
what
he
you
know
where
the
savings
are
up
front.
D
I
would
have
naturally
gone
in,
and
you
know
done
done
a
line
analysis
on
it,
but
it's
next,
when
someone's
done
it
preemptively
in
front
up
front
really
thoughtful.
D
This
is
not
aspirational,
but
based
on
best
practices
and
evidence,
and
so
I'm
encouraged
at
the
approach
as
councilor
kirby
kirby
young
pointed
out
that
the
auditor
general
office
is
something
that
exists
in
every
other
major
canadian
city
and
that
we've
now
joined
those
ranks
and
while
we
don't
like
to
to
hold
put
it
up
this
way,
the
roi
on
this
department
is
something
that
the
city
can
look
forward
to
in
the
future
and
by
roi,
for
I
mean
return
on
investment
so
that
every
dollar
that's
spent
here
will
be
returned
in
multiples.
D
We'll
we'll
see,
I
know
what
it
is
in
the
other
cities,
so
I
I
do
see
this
as
money
well
spent,
but,
as
I
said,
I
see
the
auditor
general
leading
by
example
in
the
manner
in
which
he
has
approached
this
budget.
Thank
you.
F
Okay,
great
I'll,
keep
this
very
brief,
as
you
mentioned,
and
I
do
appreciate
being
able
to
connect
remotely
and
still
in
transit
here,
getting
leading
auto
asset.
F
So
I
will
keep
my
comments
brief
and
did
have
the
opportunity
to
connect
with
our
auditor
general
mike
mcdonnell
on
on
a
number
of
topics
and
the
work
that
the
auditor
general
office
will
be
undertaking
and
the
required
funding
to
to
do
this
and
to
do
it
well,
and
so
I
appreciate
council,
kirby,
young
and
council
harvard
and
council
meets
comments
and
echo
all
of
them
and
that
we
need
to
prioritize
this
work,
and
the
process
is
such
that
it's
not
included
in
the
draft
budget,
but
by
this
committee's
endorsement,
will
help
move
that
to
the
next
stage
so
I'll
leave
it.
F
There
probably
support
the
work
and
and
do
appreciate
the
clear
information
provided
by
mike
in
order
for
us
to
make
a
decision
on
this
today
and
take
this
conversation
into
next
week.
A
Great
thanks
so
much
thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us
and
and
pleasant
travels
home.
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
soon.
We
have
no
more
speakers
signed
up
on
this
and
I
just
want
to
add
a
few
words
myself.
I've
really
had
the
privilege
of
working
with
mike
mcdonnell
on
on
some
of
this,
and-
and
I
know
that
we've
all
variously
across
our
council
really
articulated
support
for
the
idea
of
the
auditor
general's
office,
and
this
is
where
we
put
our
money
where
our
mouth
is
and
and
I'm
very
hopeful.
A
I
feel
a
little
bit
like
we've.
We've
we're
planting
a
tree
today
and
that
this
time
next
year,
that
tree
will
be
bearing
fruit
and
we'll
be
picking
those
fruit
and
we'll
look
back
on
this
moment
and
with
some
gratitude
recognizing
that
this
was
an
important
step
and
a
big
step
for
the
city
of
vancouver,
so
yeah
really
looking
forward
to
ongoing
work
with
with
this
committee
and
with
mike
and
and
as
he
grows
his
team
and
sets
up
an
office.
A
So
without
any
further
ado,
I
think
we
can
move
to
a
vote
on
this
clerk's.
If
we
can
pull
up
the
voting
queue.
A
And
that
passes
with
none
in
opposition.
So
that's
unanimous
great.
Thank
you
committee.
This
concludes
our
only
item
on
the
agenda.
Our
next
auditor
general
committee
meeting
is
on
friday
january
28th
2022
at
1pm,
and
with
that.