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A
Okay,
great
thanks
very
much
so
I
will
start
good
afternoon
council
we're
here
for
a
special
council
meeting
on
the
draft
capital
plan
first
to
acknowledge
we're
on
the
unseated
traditional
territories
of
the
muslim
squamish
and
slaves,
youth
people
and
thank
them
for
their
generosity
to
all
of
us
who
live
here
and
thanks
to
staff
for
everything.
You're
doing
can't
believe
you
do
it,
but
you
do
it
and
it's
making
vancouver
better
every
day.
Thank
you.
So
much
clerks
can
wear
the
roll
call.
Please.
B
Leave
of
absence
counselor
fry
councillor
swanson
here,
councillor
hardwick.
C
D
A
Thanks
so
much
so,
this
special
council
meeting
has
been
called
in
accordance
with
section
14.5,
the
procedure
bylaw.
The
purpose
of
this
meeting
is
to
provide
counsel,
with
an
overview
of
the
preliminary
draft
of
the
2023-2026
capital
plan
and
opportunity
for
council
input.
A
Let's
see
here
so
there
is
a
memo
sent
for
memo
sent
from
the
deputy
city
manager
on
march
31st.
This
includes
an
overview
of
the
proceedings
from
this
meeting,
which
convened
on
march
31st
and
reconvened.
Today
march,
31st
staff
delivered
presentations
to
council
that
provided
an
overview
of
the
2023-2026
draft
capital
plan,
as
well
as
the
capital
plans
for
some
of
the
service
areas,
and
we
asked
one
round
of
questions
at
today's
meeting.
Staff
will
domain
deliver
the
remaining
service
areas,
presentations,
after
which
we
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions.
A
Another
round
of
questions.
There's
no
speakers
today.
At
the
this
meeting
the
members,
the
public
may
send
comments
to
counsel
by
using
the
online
web
form
listed
on
the
web
agenda
webpage
and
the
public
may
view
these
proceedings
online
or
attend
in
person
at
city
hall.
A
robust
public
engagement
will
begin
in
may
to
gather
the
public's
feedback
on
the
draft
capital
plan.
Speakers
will
have
the
opportunity
to
address
council
on
the
draft
23
on
this
capitol
plan
at
the
council
meeting
of
april
26th
and
the
final
council
meeting
on
july
6th.
A
So
a
few
months
don't
make
the
final
decision
any
reminders
go
to
twitter
on
advanced
city
clerk,
to
follow
the
progress
of
the
meeting
and
just
remember,
to
use
first
name
last
name
role
or
title
and
avoid
using
gendered
honorifics
thanks
so
much.
We
have
the
deputy
city
manager
here
to
introduce
the
remaining
capital
plan.
Category
presentations.
E
So
this
is
part
two
of
a
workshop.
We
started
on
april
31st
and
I'm
just
going
to
provide
a
little
presentation
and
share
the
intended
format.
For
today's
conversation,
I'm
wondering
if
I
could
get
my
powerpoint
up
there.
Thank
you
very
much
so
just
just
to
supplement
what
the
mayor
said,
we
did
maybe,
within
the
last
two
hours
circulate
to
cancel
an
updated
set
of
the
powerpoint
slides
just
with
a
few
tweaks,
so
that
should
be.
E
That
will
be
the
updated
set
we're
using
today
from
as
compared
to
the
ones
we
distributed
on
on
march
31st
and
and
as
well.
We
distributed
to
council
the
beginnings
of
council's
responses
to
sorry
staff's
responses
to
council's
questions
concerning
capital
planning.
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
a
couple
of
minutes.
So
for
the
the
top
half
of
this
slide
shows
you
what
we
did
on
march
31st
and
the
discussion
we
had
around
capital
planning
and
the
bottom
half
lays
out
what
we
intend
to
do
today.
E
So
I'm
going
to
provide
a
little
introduction,
then
we're
going
to
carry
on
with
our
service
category
presentations.
We
got
through
almost
all
of
them
on
the
31st,
we
have
three
press
enters
left
and
they
will
go.
They
will
take
the
stand
after
I
finish
this
and
then
we're
going
to
have
grace
chang
from
our
finance
department
sharing
some
of
the
information
you
requested
on
march
31st.
E
What
we've
been
able
to
gather
together
in
in
the
last
few
days,
then
we'll
have
the
it's
not
written
on
the
agenda,
but
our
city
manager,
paul
mocry,
will
come
up
and
just
say
a
few
words
to
wrap
up
the
staff
presentation.
Part
of
this
and
then
really
it's
over
to
councils
parts,
nine
and
ten
there
we
thought
we
would
suggest
you
break
up
your
conversation.
E
First
number,
nine
into
the
large
one-off
projects,
those
that
are
currently
in
the
contemplated
plan
and
those
that
aren't-
and
we
have
a
lot
of
staff
to
too
many
for
me
to
list
here.
But
you
can
see
behind
me.
We
have
a
lot
of
clt
and
their
staff
and
and
even
more
on
the
webex
to
respond
to
whatever
questions
council
might
have
of
us
regarding
these
projects.
And
then
our
suggestion
is
just
an
open
discussion
for
over
an
hour
that
will
be
questions
to
staff
or
discussion
among
yourself
as
you
see
fit.
E
So
that's
the
plan
just
a
couple
of
introductory
notes
on
where
we're
at
so
we
we
offered
to
answer
your
questions
at
march
31st
and
you
came
through.
We
have
received
62
questions
from
council
to
date
and
there
might
be
more
coming
in
as
we
speak,
staff's
done
an
amazing
job
of
responding
to.
I
think
about
two-thirds
of
those,
and
you
have
that
in
your
inbox.
Now
it
didn't
get
to
you
very
long
ago,
but
you
do
have
it
and
as
well.
E
The
city
clerk
is
going
to
post
those
responses
on
the
public
website
and,
of
course,
we
will
update
that
memo
that
you're
going
to
see
about
one-third,
where
there's
responses
pending
we'll
update
that
memo
to
provide
those
responses
to
you
in
full
and,
of
course,
if
there's
more
questions
coming
out
of
today's
discussion,
we're
happy
to
respond
to
those
as
well
a
couple
of
corrections,
slides
24
and
69
of
the
secondary
deck.
That's
the
service
category
presentation
deck
have
been
presented.
E
There
was
just
a
couple
of
additionaires
on
the
slide
and
those
have
been
taken
care
of
and
and
you
have
that
deck
in
your
inbox
as
well,
and
the
clerk
has
again
posted
that
corrected
deck
on
on
the
public
website
and
mayor
stewart
listed.
The
the
next
few
touch
points
with
council
on
the
capital
plan,
but
I'll
just
reiterate
here
with
a
slide
in
front
of
us.
So
so
today
you
you're
going
to
be
hearing
more
about
the.
I
think
I've
got
the
date
wrong
there.
E
Oh
I
see,
what's
going
on
today
today
we're
having
a
workshop
conversation
and
on
april
26
is
when
we're
going
to
be
coming
back
to
you
formally
to
a
public
council
meeting
seeking
direction
to
approve
the
draft
23
to
26
capital
plan
and
also
get
your
direction
to
initiate
public
engagement
on
that
draft
plan.
Now,
just
a
heads
up
council
that
that
report
needs
to
be
finalized
by
staff
within
the
next
week
or
so
just
to
allow
for
our
internal
system
and
getting
it
posted
on
the
public
website
with
a
sufficient
time.
E
So
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
turn
around
a
lot
of
big
changes
now
and
that's
just
the
nature
of
the
beast
here
in
terms
of
the
timing
we're
working
within
on
april
26th
we'll
come
back
to
you
and
again
it's
going
to
be
tight
timing,
because
staff's
going
to
have
about,
I
think
about
a
week
before
they
bring
that
work
out
to
public
engagement,
so
the
really
best
opportunity
for
council
to
make
change.
E
We
want
to
hear
your
direction
today,
definitely
and
on
april
26th,
but
the
best
time
to
make
big
changes
if
there
are
going
to
be
any
to
what
you
see
in
the
preliminary
draft
right
now
will
be
at
the
july
council
meeting
or
leading
up
to
the
july
council
meeting.
I
just
wanted
to
frame
out
again
I've
shared
that
timeline
with
you
on
the
31st.
I
just
wanted
to
share
it
with
you
again
here
we're
now
going
to
move
into
presenting
the
service
categories.
You'll
see
this
list,
we
got
through
almost
everybody.
E
We
just
have
left
our
chief
technology
officer,
taik
healy,
and
then
we
have
representatives
from
both
our
police
department
and
our
fire
department
to
talk
about
their
aspects
of
the
capital
plan.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over.
This
should
only
take
us
a
few
minutes
actually,
because
we're
almost
all
the
way
through
I'm
just
going
to
pull
up
the
the
right
slides
for
this
and
invite
our
chief
technology
officer
officer
tag
healy
to
come
present
on
our
technology
plan.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you
karen
and
thank
you
council
for
the
opportunity
to
present
today
on
the
technology
capital
plan
increasingly
over
the
last
two
years.
Technology
and
the
services
we
deliver
are
critical,
enabling
components
to
the
delivery
of
services
from
many
of
our
business
units.
The
availability
and
the
quality
of
those
services
really
comes
down
to
continued
investment
across
both
the
core
technology
and
the
business
technology
categories
of
our
capital
plan
in
terms
of
core
technology.
F
We're
looking
at
approximately
80
million
dollars
throughout
the
next
four
years,
spread
across
four
major
divisions,
including
infrastructure,
client
services
platforms
and
applications
and
enterprise
data.
I'll
give
you
some
contextual
examples
on
the
next
slide
of
what
what
the
breakdown
behind
each
of
those
are
in
terms
of
business
technology
technology
services
is
evolving
to
become
a
much
more
strategic
partner
with
our
business
units.
F
We've
conducted
a
series
of
engagements
with
the
gms
and
their
delegates
over
the
last
number
of
months
and
have
focused
in
on
the
following
six
areas
in
terms
of
investment
recommendations
during
the
next
capital
plan.
We've
t-shirt-sized,
those
in
terms
of
allocation
and
the
specific
initiatives
that
would
fit
under
each
of
those
will
form
the
part
of
annual
technology
plans
throughout
the
course
of
the
four
years
in
order.
Those
are
sap
for
our
hr
and
finance
business
processes.
F
A
catch-all
for
business
initiatives
where
we
have
specific,
one-off
initiatives
to
advance
the
strategic
priorities
of
specific
departments.
The
the
city
and
its
departments
manages
a
range
of
assets,
everything
from
trees
to
infrastructure,
to
buildings
and
the
technology
platforms,
to
support
that
asset
management
is
the
third
category.
F
I
should
also
note
that
vpd
and
vpl
also
have
spend
allocations
within
these
categories
and
manage
those
spend
allocations
independently
in
terms
of
the
current
capital
plan.
There's
a
lot
of
content
on
this
slide,
but
really
want
to
focus
in
on.
You
know
the
fact
that
we've
upgraded
many
of
the
key
platforms
that
those
services
are
delivered
on.
So,
if
you
think
about
business
licenses
as
an
example,
that's
delivered
through
the
amanda
platform,
which
underwent
a
major
upgrade.
F
Two
years
ago,
we've
launched
a
new
open
data
platform
to
allow
residents,
businesses
alike,
to
explore
and
analyze
the
large
amounts
of
open
data
that
we
publish
on
the
city
of
vancouver
website
in
terms
of
the
nuts
and
bolts
the
infrastructure
enhancements.
All
of
this
depends
on
a
resilient
and
secure
network.
We
have
a
hybrid
data
center
program
to
create
copies
of
our
data
outside
of
the
seismic
zone.
F
That's
a
program
that
will
continue
into
the
next
capital
plan
and
will
require
increased
and
continued
investment,
and
just
in
the
last
year,
we've
obtained
a
new
microsoft
enterprise
agreement,
which
puts
us
on
a
much
more
modern
footprint
when
it
comes
to
our
productivity
suite
in
terms
of
some
of
the
business
technology.
Advancements
on
the
right-hand
side
of
the
slide
you'll
note
that
we
can
now
allow
for
submissions
of
electronic
plans
for
certain
permits.
F
We
have
an
empty
homes,
tax
declaration
portal,
which
allows
over
185
000
homeowners
per
year
to
declare
the
status
of
their
property
for
the
purposes
of
that
initiative,
and
internally,
we've
deployed
applications
with
our
partners
in
vfrs
to
improve
how
they
track
their
gear
using
rfid
technology
and
that's
just
a
small
sampling
of
some
of
the
initiatives
for
them
from
the
current
capital
plan.
F
In
terms
of
the
the
next
four
year
cycle,
we
continue
to
expect
to
continue
with
upgraded
platform
pieces,
the
the
power
bi
implementation
there.
For
example,
will
transform
how
our
business
units
can
access
interpret
and
drive
insights
from
from
their
enterprise
data?
F
The
data
center
co-location
program,
which
gets
our
copies
of
our
our
key
enterprise
data
outside
of
the
seismic
zone,
will
continue,
and
obviously
you
know,
with
the
shift
to
more
hybrid
and
remote
work,
we're
seeing
an
increase
in
the
number
of
laptops
and
desktop
replacements
that
are
happening
within
the
city,
which
will
have
a
budget
implication
and
I've
already
gone
through
the
business
priority
initiatives.
There
will
be
initiatives
in
each
annual
plan
within
each
of
those
six
areas.
F
In
terms
of
unfunded
elements,
like
I
mentioned,
there's
been
a
significant
shift
from
desktops
to
laptops
during
the
pandemic.
There
are
budget
implications
on
that
hardware
replacement
program.
Should
that
trend
continue
and,
of
course
we
have
a
number
of
levers
in
terms
of
you
know:
hardware
lifecycle
that
we
can
look
at,
but
that's
a
potential
increase
in
terms
of
our
our
budget
and
then
current
unknowns
include.
F
E
Thanks
so
much
ty,
I
actually
failed
to
mention.
We
also
have
one
more
presentation
and
that
is
on
heritage
buildings
and
that's
going
to
be
presented
by
the
general
manager
of
planning,
urban
design
and
sustainability.
So
three
more,
not
two
more
and
so
teresa
o'donnell
thanks.
G
Thank
you,
karen
and
good
afternoon,
council
we've
got
just
three
pretty
quick,
slides
here
oops
I
went
too
far.
The
first
one
in
2019
council
did
approve
a
set
of
heritage
incentive
to
support
city-wide
conservation.
Each
of
these
three
programs
cover
different
classes
of
heritage
buildings
from
mid-rise
to
high-rise,
to
low-rise
buildings.
Through
the
heritage
facade
grant
program.
We
also
support
heritage
house
conservation
efforts.
G
Council
proves
that
as
an
annual
grant
to
the
heritage,
the
vancouver
heritage
foundation
for
dissemination
through
that
program
for
a
number
of
houses,
we've
had
a
lot
of
great
successes
over
the
last
four
years
and-
and
I
know
council's
always
delighted
to
see
those
come
forward.
G
We've
had
four
major
grants
delivered
under
the
heritage
incentive
program
for
about
9.8
million
dollars,
and
we
do
anticipate
a
couple
more
before
the
end
of
this
year.
Heritage
facade,
of
course,
three
major
projects
we've
delivered
two
at
about
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
plus
one
more
before
the
end
of
the
year.
For
about
fifty
thousand
and
the
heritage
house
conservation
grant,
which
we
delivered
almost
a
hundred
and
well
113
projects.
G
We
anticipate
another
35
before
the
end
of
this
year,
so
that's
been
a
great
success
and
in
this
capital
plan
we
do
expect
to
see
six
to
eight
projects
coming
forward
in
terms
of
the
the
big
program,
the
heritage,
facade,
rehabilitation,
we're
talking
with
eight
applicants
right
now
to
improve
and
extend
their
existing
program
and
then
the
heritage
house
conservation
grant
at
least
another
150
projects
within
that
four
years.
G
E
Thank
you
teresa.
Now
we're
remaining
to
have
to
do
with
public
safety.
We're
gonna.
I'm
gonna
ask
the
fire
chief
karen
fry
to
come
out
up
here
and
discuss
the
fire
department
aspects
of
our
capital
proposed
capital
plan.
Thank
you.
I
I
The
location
of
fire
halls
is
integral
to
our
response
capabilities
that
we
address
through
our
operational
budgets
and
staffing
levels.
We
strategically
deploy
our
resources
to
the
areas
where
service
is
needed,
changing
demand
and
call
volumes
our
response
times
and
build
up
our
resources,
as
we
always
kind
of
talk
about
in
our
erf,
is
also
critical.
The
key
is
to
get
the
right
amount
of
firefighters
on
scene
within
the
standards.
I
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
our
fire
hall
is
in
fact
what
we
call
fire
houses,
our
staff,
live
and
work
in
these
facilities
24
hours
a
day.
They
are
a
place
of
refuge,
rest
organization
and
house
for
our
apparatus
and
crews.
As
our
city
grows,
the
complexities
grow,
our
departments
grows,
and
so
must
our
facilities.
I
I
I
I
In
our
next
contained,
currently
within
the
2023
to
2026
capital
plan,
we
will
be
designing
hopefully
and
renewing
fire
hall
6,
which
is
the
west
end,
fire
hall
and
part
of
the
community
hub,
we'll
be
doing
capital
maintenance
programs
of
about
2.1
million
dollars,
which
really
just
goes
to
maintain
our
existing
facilities,
roofs
windows
replacement,
renovations,
which
is
directed
to
update
or
improve
any
liquid
living
conditions
in
things
like
equity
and
diversity.
Within
our
facilities,
heating
upgrades,
hvac
and
air
conditioning.
We
have
some
money
set
aside
for
those
ongoing
vehicle
replacements.
I
As
we
we
included,
we
will
continue
to
move
towards
electrification
for
our
small
fleet,
so
even
as
we
replace
our
gas
powered
vehicles
to
more
of
a
hybrid
or
electric
vehicles
and
then
new
fleet
equipment,
which
is
a
rehab
support,
unit,
right-sizing
our
fleet
and
as
well
as
an
apparatus
for
our
hall
5
that
we
receive
staffing
for
this
year,
so
underfunded
elements.
We
have
the
camby
corridor
fire
hall.
I
mentioned
that
earlier.
I
Some
land
acquisition
for
that
planning
and
design.
Probably
within
the
next
capital
budget.
Also
fire
hall
renewals.
We
have
kensington
fire
hall.
We
call
fire
hall
20,
which
is
conditioned,
are
in
the
needs
assessment
report.
It
is
considered
poor
quality
as
well
as
our
downtown
south
fire
hall,
and
that
one
right
now
I
visited
it
today
we
have
11
firefighters
in
there
and
it's
built
for
a
staffing
of
eight,
also
a
fire
truck
maintenance
facility,
relocation
and
expansion
to
our
training
center
again,
the
implications
of
unfunding.
E
Thank
you.
We
now
have
steve
ray
from
vancouver
police
department
going
to
present
the
police
aspects
of
the
plan.
Thanks
steve.
J
Thank
you
karen
and
good
afternoon,
mayor
and
council.
Let
me
just
adjust
this
karen.
Where
is
it?
Thank
you
perfect.
J
I'll
just
start
off
with
this
slide
to
just
provide
some
context,
so
the
key
achievables
from
the
last
plan
involved
our
vpd
technology,
where
we
worked
on
the
digital
evidence
management
and
that's
an
ongoing
project
for
not
only
vpd
but
the
province
for
every
police
department
in
bc,
including
rcmp
detachments.
J
It's
really
being
driven
by
the
new
expectation
for
police
to
provide
and
flow
information
to
crown
and
all
the
other
agencies,
including
some
social
agencies.
So
that
is
something
that's
going
to
be
imposed
on
us
has
been
imposed
on
us,
we're
working
with
the
city
and
it's
a
key
pillar
going
forward
for
public
safety.
J
Obviously,
smartphones
is
a
part
of
digital
evidence,
management
having
the
connected
officer
not
having
to
leave
the
road
being
able
to
do
things
from
the
street
or
from
your
patrol
car,
so
appreciate
the
city
really
working
well
with
us
on
that.
That
also
includes
enhanced
online
reporting,
making
it
more
accessible
to
come
into
the
from
your
computer
to
report
crime.
Ask
for
different
types
of
assistance,
we're
doing
a
fleet,
refresh
evolution
and
greening
we're
hoping
to
get
by
the
next
plan.
J
This
next
plan
to
30
green
and
that
will
include
electric
and
hybrid
we're
doing
very
well.
Thus
far,
we've
got
22
electric,
so
far,
two
evs
two
plug-in
43
hybrid
and
we've
got
20
more
on
the
on
on
route
with
including
the
rj
mcbeath
we're
going
to
try
to
make
that
as
efficient
for
the
climate
as
possible.
The
new
one
so
also
just
on
refm
just
to
provide
context.
So
we've
got
a
lot
of
pressure
in
our
facilities
for
space
as
we're
diversifying
around
the
edi
lens.
J
Our
women's
locker
room
had
a
major
expansion.
Our
fm
was
very
supportive
of
that
and
obviously
the
lobby
expansion
is
that's
a
leased
building
with
a
very
tight
space
with
icbc
taking
up
about
half
the
building
and
it's
a
very
tight
lobby.
As
most
of
you
know,
so
we
did
some
expansion
work
there.
So
going
into
the
current
plan,
the
capital
plan
draft
we've
got
three
major
buckets:
we're
looking
at
a
consolidated
post-disaster
facility,
so
a
main
headquarters.
J
We've
got
11
different
buildings
right
now
and
it's
not
to
consolidate
just
our
working
environment,
it's
very
inefficient
and
all
that
moving
between
buildings.
But
this
is
really
for
the
city's
legacy
and
risk
management
for
the
next
decade
and
and
the
next
generation
of
all
citizens
major
disaster.
Here,
none
of
our
facilities
will
withstand
a
san
francisco
or
l.a
kind
of
disaster
or
anything,
and
so
there's
all
sorts
of
opportunities
here
to
not
only
consolidate
a
police
headquarters.
It
could
be
the
city's
emergency
management
working
in
there.
J
It
could
be
fire,
it
could
be
just
an
all-purpose
where
the
communications
were
all
you
know,
you
can
manage
people
coming
in
to
assist
officers,
firefighters,
you
just
need
a
building
that
can
coordinate
that
that
can
withstand
the
pressure
of
what
could
happen.
So
that's
a
legacy
item,
digital
transformation
and
modernization.
J
So,
as
I
said
earlier,
you
know
we're
we're
right
there
in
canada,
leading
lots
of
frontline
initiatives,
predictive
policing
and
all
those
technologies,
but
that's
going
to
continue
on
how
we
integrate
all
the
evidence
and
and
how
we
report
and
how
we
fight
crime
and
and
provide
assistance.
So
that's
going
to
create
a
lot
of
efficiencies
on
human
resource
efficiencies,
saving
time
and
energy,
and
obviously
I
meant
touched
on
the
continued
evolution
of
our
fleet
and
doing
our
part
around
the
climate.
J
So
the
next
slide,
I'm
just
going
to
speak
a
little
bit
more
about
the
consolidated
post-disaster
headquarters.
It
is
about
you
know,
that's
a
lease
building
camby,
it's
tight!
We
share
with
another
other
company
icbc
we're
going
to
lose
our
kiosk
lot
there
that
houses,
the
bulk
of
our
fleet,
hundreds
of
vehicles
and
so
that
headquarters
and
the
gravely
building
it's
a
very
unique
setup
in
north
america.
For
that
much
back
and
forth,
we
really
need
a
central
location.
J
The
city
actually
requires
a
central
location,
all-purpose.
You
know,
building
that
you
know
from
bomb-proof
to
fireproof
to
earthquake-proof
to
flood
everything.
So
that's
something
our
board
is
really
looking
at
and
supporting,
as
you
know,
if
we're
looking
at
one
item
long
term
to
lock
up
some
space
some
plans
so
that
that's
that's
a
a
very
important
item
going
forward
and
just
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know
I
mentioned
we
have
11
facilities.
J
You
know
from
the
dog
squad
marine
gravely
camby,
you
know
the
property
office,
the
ttc
really
support
refm
being
well
funded
to
support,
not
just
us,
but
I
think
everyone,
you
know
from
roof
leaks,
there's
a
lot
of
buildings
with
a
lot
of
maintenance
happening,
and
we
really
appreciate
refm,
being
a
strong
partner
being
able
to
fund
and
support
us
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
okay.
So
that
concludes
you've
now
heard
from
all
the
major
service
categories
within
the
capital
plan,
and
we
tried
to
make
it
as
coherent
as
possible
for
you,
council,
where
you
heard
for
each
one
major
achievements,
what's
in
the
proposed
plan
as
contemplated
right
now,
the
draft
preliminary
plan
and
then,
if
there's
boards
involved
for
the
library,
police
and
park
board
the
board
direction
concerning
the
plan
and
then
finally,
what
elements
are
not
currently
funded
because,
as
you
know,
we
have
a
lot
of
projects
chasing,
not
enough
money,
so
hard
choices.
E
All
around
we're
now
going
to
move
back
to
just
a
little
more
staff
presentation
before
we
turn
it
over
to
to
you,
council,
for
your
discussion
and
and
questions,
I'm
going
to
ask
grace
chang
to
now
come
up
from
our
long-term
financial
strategy
group
and
she's,
going
to
present
a
few
slides,
responding
to
questions
that
counsel,
u.s
staff
on
march
31st.
So
grace
are
you
oh
you're,
on
webex
you're
going
to
magically
appear?
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you
karen.
This
is
grace
chang,
director
of
long-term
financial
strategy.
K
So
further
to
the
capital
plan
workshop
last
week,
there
were
a
number
of
requests
from
council
to
staff,
so
we're
going
to
address
some
of
those
questions
today,
however,
there
will
be
some
questions
that
we
will
be
addressing
it
in
future
council
meetings,
the
first
four
that
we're
going
to
address
today
is
the
first
one.
There
was
question
about
what
is
the
implication
for
increasing
infrastructure
renewal
funding
by
more
than
one
percent
that
is
already
built
into
the
draft
plan,
so
we're
going
to
address
it.
K
The
second
question
that
we're
going
to
address
is
there's
some
question
about:
can
we
use
dcl
towards
infrastructure,
renewal
programs
so
we're
going
to
address
that?
The
third
question
is:
what
is
the
amount
or
the
level
of
discretion
that
council
can
can
deflect
right
now
with
regards
to
the
proposed
housing
investment
in
this,
the
next
upcoming
capital
plan?
So
we're
going
to
talk
about
that
and
the
last
one
that
we're
going
to
address
today
is
to
show
you
the
major
projects
and
the
location
of
those
projects
within
the
city.
K
So
you
can
have
an
idea
in
terms
of
the
geographical
kind
of
allocation
of
those
projects
and
what
we're
going
to
come
back
in
the
next
couple
of
council
meetings
will
be
to
share
how
the
proposed
capital
plan
is
contributing
to
four
of
the
key
elements
the
council
has
been
talking
about,
which
is
ghg
reduction,
climate
change,
adaptation,
amenity
and
infrastructure,
renewal
and
also
housing,
and
also
there
will
be
a
specific
overview
for
council
to
understand
how
the
capital
plan
is
contributing
towards
climate
adaptation,
as
well
as
mitigation
investments.
K
So
the
first
question
just
to
clarify
that,
or
maybe
I'm
just
a
reminder
that
within
the
current
draft
20
20
23
and
to
26
capital
plan,
we
have
already
incorporated
a
one
percent
tax
increase
for
each
of
the
next
four
years.
This
is
consistent
with
the
current
plan
that
we
have
already
kind
of
built
in
in
order
to
increase
the
funding
envelope
for
the
renewal
program,
so
this
has
generated
an
additional
100
million
dollar
for
the
next
four
years.
K
However,
if
council
choose
to
increase
the
funding
envelope
for
the
renewal
program
for
every
quarter
percent
increase
in
that
tax
increase
for
each
year,
it
would
generate
an
additional
25
million
dollar.
So
if
council
were
to
increase
from
one
percent
or
two
percent
for
each
of
the
the
coming
years
for
for
the
the
coming
capital
plan,
we
can
generate
an
additional
100
million
dollar
again
for
the
renewal
program
next
night.
Please.
K
So,
with
regards
to
the
question
about
whether
we
can
use
dcl
for
infra
infrastructure
renewal,
so
we
have
highlighted
three,
I
would
say
guiding
documents
that
guide
the
usage
of
dcl.
The
first
one
is
the
provincial
dcl
best
practices
guide
in
here.
It
specifically
said
that
dcc's,
which
is
equivalent
to
dcl
that
we
use
in
in
vancouver
it
is
to
service
the
needs
for
new
development.
So
this
is
not
about
like
maintenance
and
and
replacement
of
the
existing
infrastructure
and
within
the
vancouver
charter.
K
Again,
it
is
very
clearly
documented
that
development
anticipated
to
take
place
in
the
area
should
contribute
dcl
so
that
it
can
contribute
to
the
need
of
those
projects
as
a
result
of
arising.
As
a
result
of
the
new
development-
and
we
also
use
this
the
city's
financing
growth
study-
that
is
a
policy
which
also
guides
specifically
saying
that
dcl
and
development
contributions.
They
should
not
be
used
to
maintain
and
replace
aging
infrastructure.
K
So
that
being
said,
when
we
renew
say,
for
example,
a
community
center,
there
is
always
a
renewable
portion
of
it
as
well
as
an
expansion
of
it,
so
the
renewal
portion
of
it
we
cannot
use
dcl.
We
will
be
using
property
tax.
However,
on
the
on
expansion
piece,
we
will
be
using
either
dcl
or
cac
towards
the
expansion
portion
of
the
project.
Next
slide,
please.
K
So
the
third
question
that
we
have
is
of
the
617
million
dollar
of
housing
investment
in
the
draft
capital
plan.
What
is
the
level
of
flexibility?
So
we
just
want
to
kind
of
at
a
high
level
quantify
you
know,
for
councils
on
interest,
so
in
terms
of
purely
not
flexible,
65
of
it
is
really
not
flexible
because
of
it.
300
million
of
it
is
relating
to
the
in-kind
turnkey
housing
that
council
has
already
approved
as
part
of
the
rezoning
in
public
hearing.
K
So
and
also
we
have
included
80
million
dollars
from
empty
homes
tax
and,
as
you
are
aware,
there
is
very
specific,
I
would
say,
requirement
how
the
md
home
stacks
can
be
used
for
it
within
the
vancouver
charter.
So
we
cannot
allocate.
You
know
this
empty
home
stacks
for
non-housing
purposes
and
then
some
of
the
very
specific
housing
related
partner
funding
that
cannot
be
reallocated
and
then
there
are
roughly
20
of
the
617
17
million
dollar.
K
There
is
some
flexibility,
but
not
a
lot,
namely
council
can
make
I'll
say
changes
to
the
policy
with
regards
to
the
amount
of
waiver
or
reduction
in
the
dcl
for
purpose-built
rental
housing
and
then
also
as
well.
Some
of
the
cash
cac
allocated
to
affordable
housing,
some
of
them
they're
also
allocated
through
the
public
hearing
process.
So
there
is
some
flexibility,
but
not
a
lot,
and
then
there
is,
I
would
say,
15
of
those
is,
it
has
more
flexibility,
those
are
relating
to
the
future
dcl
that
will
be
collected.
K
So,
as
you
are
aware,
there
will.
The
city
is
also
kind
of
reviewing
our
existing.
I
would
say:
dcl
allocation
between
housing,
child
care,
transportation,
utilities
and
also
part,
so
that
is
the
part
that
council
can
effect
changes
and
go
into
the
future.
However,
those
dcl
that
has
been
collected
it
cannot
be
reallocated
and
also
funding
from
property
tax
definitely
is
within
council's
jurisdiction
to
all
okay
next
slide.
K
Please
and
the
last
question
that
we're
going
to
address
today
is
just
to
show
a
graphic
geographically,
where
those
one-off
large
projects
are
located
within
the
city.
So
here
you
see
two
different
colors,
the
green
colors.
Those
are
the
major
projects
that
are
about
to
start
in
which
are
funded
from
the
current
capital
plan,
but
the
construction
side
of
things
will
will
go
all
the
way
you
know
to
the
next
capital
plan
and
in
and
the
red
basically
are
are
those
projects
that
we
have
included
in
the
draft
capital
plan.
K
So
in
front
of
you,
you
can
actually
see,
like
you
know,
for
for
the
existing
plan,
the
the
oak
ridge
central
community
center.
It
will
be
delivered
as
in
kind
by
the
developer,
and
it
will
happen
if
it's
happening
imminently
and
also
it
will
also
kind
of
like
span
through
the
next
couple
of
years.
Marple
community,
central,
renewable
as
well.
It
is
funded
from
the
current
capital
plan
and
construction,
hopefully,
is
going
to
start
soon
and
it
will
carry
through
for
the
next
couple
of
years
and
one
one.
K
One
project
that
we
forgot
to
put
on
the
map
is
actually
the
grand
view,
woodland
fire
hall,
number
nine,
and
it
will
also
include
the
the
fire
headquarters
as
well,
so
on
the
red
dots.
Those
are
the
major
projects
that
we
have
included
in
the
proposed
plan.
The
aquatic
center,
the
amphitheater
in
pne,
recam
animal
shelter,
renewal
and
there
are
also
an
efl,
the
community
center,
which
will
be
delivered
in
partnership
with
the
developer,
and
then
there
are
a
number
of
other
non-community
facility.
K
Type
projects
like
a
number
of
parks
in
southeast
falls,
create
in
bhurat
slopes
and
also
some
bridge
project
as
well,
is
to
to
to
add
to
the
resilience
of
the
granville
bridge
and
also
the
camby
bridge,
so
that,
basically,
just
to
give
you
a
nutshell,
some
of
the
major
projects
geographically
located
across
the
city
next
slide.
Please.
E
I'm
not
gonna
ask
before
we
just
turn
turn
it
over
to
you,
council
to
all
the
questions.
Do
you
want
to
ask
us
I'm
just
going
to
ask
our
city
manager
paul
mockery
to
come
up
and
say
a
few
closing
regarding
what
we
presented
to
over
today
and
the
31st
thanks.
L
Thanks
karen
good
afternoon,
mayor
council,
so
yeah
just
a
couple
of
closing
messages.
First,
as
it's
been
indicated,
we
have
just
to
acknowledge
that
we
have
definitely
heard
the
direction
from
council,
those
particular
policy
areas,
climate
infrastructure
and
many
renewal,
housing.
Those
cross-cutting
policy
areas
that
you're
looking
to
understand
how
those
are
reflected.
That's
work
that
we
are
doing
we'll
be
able
to
present
that
back
to
you,
but
just
wanted
to
again
reinforce
that.
L
We
are
very
conscious
of
those
and
the
plan
that
you've
seen
here,
although
you
haven't
seen
it
expressed
in
that
way,
does
reflect
those
priorities.
L
The
other
point
I'd
like
to
raise
is
back
to
the
first
point:
that's
addressed
in
her
comments
around
revenue
and
of
increased
tax
revenue
for
the
plan,
so
I
would
strongly
recommend
you,
council
are
contemplating
this
plan.
The
proposed
investments,
the
trade-offs
you
do
so
within
the
projected
funding
envelope
that
staff
have
recommended.
So
a
couple
of
points
behind
that
one
is
you'll
note
that
this
plan
represents
a
22
over
the
current
four-year
plan,
including
a
64
increase
in
city
cost.
L
So
this
is
a
big
lift
relative
to
where
we
are
today
already
now.
We
do
recognize
that
there's
likely
a
whole
range
of
investments
that
you
would
like
to
see
advanced
in
the
next
four
years.
That
may
not
be
possible
within
that
funding
envelope
and
yes,
the
next
council
of
as
its
lever
the
opportunity
to
increase
taxes
and
more
capacity
to
fund
those
investments.
L
As
grace
indicated
and
you've
heard
a
couple
of
times
from
us,
this
included
a
revenue
assumption
of
an
increased
property
tax
rate
every
one
percent
every
year
to
continue
to
build
out
our
capacity
for
infrastructure
and
many
renewal,
a
really
significant
commitment.
It
continues
this
significant
commitment,
you've
made
during
your
term
to
fund
these
real
assets
and
the
renewal
of
those
and
again
the
next
council
could
build
onto
that
and
apply
a
bigger
tax
increase.
I
would
say,
though,
that
it
would
not
for
this
council
to
make
that
decision
at
this
point.
L
L
L
So
I
would
just
leave
a
piece
of
advice
again.
It
does
create
the
opportunity
to
identify
priority
projects
that
may
not
end
and
pass
those
on
to
the
next
council
for
consideration,
but
I
would
again
think
really
really
closely
around
the
tax
rate
assumptions
that
are
built
in
here
and
the
potential
temptation
to
kind
of
inflate
those
assumptions.
L
Last
piece
is
you've
heard
this
from
us
and
I'm
probably
beating
a
dead
horse
here,
but
complexity
of
in
this
plan
of
matching
expenditures
to
funding
sources
suggests
at
this
stage
in
the
process
that
it's
probably
not
great
opportunity
or
right
time
to
engage
at
the
level
of
detail
and
specific
project.
I
think,
if
certainly,
if
there's
questions
around
those
things
we're
happy
to
provide
as
much
information
as
we
can
in
terms
of
any
guidance
or
direction
to
us.
L
At
this
point,
I
think
thematically
higher
level
is
much
more
helpful
and
then
we
can
do
the
work
to
respond
and
come
as
appropriate
with
suggestions
on
how
we
might
respond
to
that
high
level
of
direction
as
doing
at
a
detail
level.
That
would
be
quite
complicated,
I
think,
to
for
us
to
manage
at
this
stage.
L
So,
karen
with
that,
I
think
council
were
happy
to
take
any
questions,
might
have
arisen
out
of
what
you've
heard
over
the
last
day
and.
B
E
Mayor,
if
I
could,
what
we,
what
we
thought
would
make
sense
for
council
it's
completely
up
to
you
is
that
you
first
have
a
round
of
questions
specifically
around
the
large
one-off
projects,
which
you
see
on
the
screen
right
now
and
then
open
it
up
to
more
general
conversation
or,
if
you
prefer,
we're
happy
to
just
take
whatever
questions
you
want
in
whatever
order.
A
Well,
counselors
are
on
the
list
now
and
I'm
not
sure
what
their
preferences
are,
and
so,
let's
just
since
we
have
a
move
for
for
a
second
round
of
questions,
I'll
just
let
counselors
decide
if
they,
I
think
we'll
just
probably
have
to
take
all
the
questions
at
once.
At
this
point,
and
that's
great
with
that,
do
we
have
a
second
here
for
council
kirby,
young's
motion.
M
My
christian
isn't
working.
Could
you
put
me
on
the
list.
A
Sure,
okay,
all
in
favor
of
a
second
round
of
questions,
say
yay.
B
H
Thanks
mayor,
I'm
going
to
start
with
questions
on
specific
projects,
so
my
first
one
is
to
chief
fry
with
respect
to
fire
hall
needs,
and
I
know
that
you
spoke
to.
For
example,
some
of
the
unfunded
in
terms
of
cambyland,
kensington
and
downtown
south
council
received
some
correspondence
and
had
some
dialogue
around
fire
hall
number
eight
in
yellowtown-
and
I
didn't
see
you
referenced
that
specifically
in
your
presentation,
but
did
understand
that
that
was
previously
unfunded
for
renewal.
Can
you
comment
on
where
that
sits?
Now.
I
Hi,
thank
you
yeah,
the
downtown
south
yale
town
is.
We
called
it
the
yell
town
in
northeast
fire
hall.
It's
outgrown.
I
do
believe.
We've
had
some
preliminary
talks
as
of
the
last
day
or
two
on
co-joining
facilities,
with
housing
and
child
care
as
an
option,
and
that
space
that
we
are
looking
at.
It's
imminent
that
we
try
to
move
that
one
ahead
quicker
or
we
may
lose.
That
opportunity
is
that
okay,
so
is.
H
It
fair
that
we
will
it
based
on
those
conversations
that
we'll
see
updated
information
when
this
draft
plan
evolves,
because
we're
not
seeing
sort
of
a
specific
commitment
and
the
staff
presentation
last
week
indicated
that
was
unfunded.
But
now
so
we're
expecting
that
we'll
see
an
update
on
that
with
potential
funding
towards
that.
K
Yes,
this
is
correct.
We
are
looking
into
that
and
at
the
minimum
we
will
be
providing
design
dollars,
but
we're
trying
to
kind
of
see
to
source
funding
for
the
construction
as
well.
H
Okay,
super
thanks.
I'm
gonna
keep
going
for
time.
The
guest
here
on
streets,
work
and
sort
of
the
notional
allocation.
For
that-
and
I
know
it
was
presented
that
might
possibly
be
phased
over
two
capital
plans.
Can
you
speak
to
what
scope
of
what
type
of
work
or
restoration
might
be
involved
in
the
contemplated
allocation
for
gaston
street.
N
Yes,
hi
good
afternoon,
mayor
and
council
lon
leclaire
general
manager
of
engineering
services,
so
in
the
draft
capital
plan
that
we
have
in
front
of
you
that
we
have
seven
million,
is
set
aside
for
works
in
gas
town.
That
would
deal
with
some
of
the
immediate
needs
that
are
kind
of
urgently
we're
actually
working
on
the
design
of
those
right.
Now,
our
plan
would
be
to
have
those
constructed
in
the
first
two
years
of
the
capital
plan
before
you
there's
there's.
N
It
would
be
yeah.
Thank
you.
It
would
be
a
portion
of
the
square,
so
the
gassy
jack
square
and
the
the
blood
alley
trounce
island
portion.
So
that's
the
pieces
that
we
would
expect
to
build,
and
then
the
total
project
is
probably
around
35
million.
What
we'd
be
doing
is
if
we
can
advance
design
work
on
other
portions
of
gas
town.
We
would
seek
a
kind
of
a
capital
plan
adjustment
in
the
second
half
of
the
capital
plan
to
to
look
at
ways
we
could
fund
the
next
phase
of
work.
H
So
without
any
further
adjustments
based
on
the
current
state,
we
wouldn't
be
looking
at
repair
for
water
street.
N
Not
the
entire
section
of
water
street
and
there
is
a
lot
of
work
for
us
to
do
in
terms
of
design,
because
there
is
some
options
in
terms
of
just
restoring.
What's
there
versus
kind
of
doing
something
different,
that
is,
you
know
more
responsive
today.
Today's
needs
in
gas
town.
H
Okay,
I'm
going
to
leave
that
there
for
now,
since
this
bit
of
a
fat
finding
question
session,
I'm
wondering
with
respect
to
the
east
fraser
lens
community
center
and
the
decisions
that
council
took
recently
in
terms
of
working
with
the
developer
to
advance
that
community
center.
Are
we
contemplating
that
we'll
be
able
to
deliver
that
plan
built
within
this
capital
cycle
by
the
end
of
2026?.
H
E
H
I
can
carry
another
question
as
well:
I'll
pose
two
if
we're
gonna,
if
might
be
the
same
folks,
also
the
status
of
the
aquatic
center
and
how
long
it's
going
to
last
without
issues
like
that,
since
it's
aging
significantly-
and
I
think
we
know
what
those
are
so
maybe
we
can
combine
those
two
questions.
G
Thank
you,
counselor.
It's
donnie
rosa
gm
for
the
park
board.
Maybe
I
could
ask
my
colleague
armin
to
speak
to
the
aquatic
center.
H
G
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Our
counselor,
I
apologize.
My
apologies.
I'm
pulling
this
up
with
the
recent
council
approval
of
policy
changes
to
expedite
this.
Can
it
be
delivered
and
completed
following
council
approval,
the
tenure
and
financial
capital
plan
of
2021
staff
have
been
working
with
the
developer
on
rezoning
application,
ad
density
with
area
one.
The
application
was
submitted
essentially
based
on
the
current
information.
It's
expected
to
take
approximately
five
to
six
years
to
complete,
it
may
be
possible
to
identify
timing
efficiencies
once
the
detailed
planning
starts.
D
Thanks
mayor
yeah,
thanks
for
the
updates
in
the
presentation,
I'll
start
with
the
large
one-off
projects
and
a
question
I
have
is
whether
in
identifying
and
and
putting
these
projects
in
the
draft
plan,
we
had
a
geographic
lens
applied
to
it,
because
I
was
noting
from
the
map
that,
for
the
most
part,
the
projects
are
in
the
north
part
of
the
city,
recognizing,
if
you
overlay
density,
that
we
do
see
higher
density
in
the
north
part.
D
K
Yes,
we
do
actually
that's
the
reason
why,
when
we
presented
the
map
earlier
on,
we
we
want
to
kind
of
also
showcase
what
is
what
are
being
delivered
by
developers
and
also
what
projects
or
major
projects
that
will
only
be
starting
at
the
end
of
this
current
capital
plan
and
which
will
span.
You
know
over
the
next
couple
of
years
on
the
south
side
is
the
marple
community
center
renewal
and
and
outdoor
pool
and
the
efl
one.
K
I
think
we
just
kind
of
covered
will
be
delivered
by
the
developer,
and
then
oak
ridge
as
well
or
chris,
is
going
to
be
developed
by
developed
by
the
developer
and
then
yeah
so,
and
also
fire
hall
5
and
fire
hall
17
as
well.
So
we
haven't,
we
put
it
this
way.
We
always
look
at
the
geographical,
I'll,
say,
allocation
of
the
project,
so
that
is,
it
will
be
more
equitable,
it's
not
just
all
on
the
west
or
on
the
north
or
or
east.
D
Great
thanks
grace
that
was
super
helpful.
I
I
want
to
circle
back
to
streets
and
and
specifically
a
slide
from
last
week's
presentation
where
it
talks
about
funded
and
unfunded,
I'm
just
hoping
that
lon
could
speak
to
it
and
specifically
there's
two
columns,
and
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
it
talks
about
in
active
transportation,
neighborhood
traffic
management
that
there's
40
million
allocated
and
then
but
then
it
references,
an
unfunded
element
of
20
million,
the
city,
20
million
partners,
and
so
is
that
over
and
above
the
40
million
that's
allocated.
D
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna,
I'm
trying
to
drill
drill
down
on
this,
because
one
of
the
areas
that
I
hear
from
residents
on
a
regular
basis
is
the
the
ongoing
and
really
desperate
need
to
see
more
investment
in
pedestrian
crossings,
both
pedestrian
safety,
cycling
safety.
And
so
what
would
it
take
to
increase
that?
My
recollection
from
previous
capital
plans
is
that
this
wouldn't
be
debenture
borrowing.
D
This
would
be
likely
transfers
from
operating
into
capital
to
fund
some
of
the
regular
street
maintenance
and
upgrades
like
this,
including
some
partner
funding
from
translink,
but
I'm
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
what
ultimately,
the
public
will
get
out
of
this
on
a
year-to-year
basis,
because
when
I
last
asked
some
of
these
questions,
it
was
around
well,
we
can
probably
fund
you,
know
six
to
eight
pedestrian
crossings
a
year
with
lights
and
beacons,
and
so
I'm
really
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
how
what
does
that
translate
into
on
an
annual
basis
for
the
public.
D
N
Well,
I
can
start
that
to
answer
that
question
and
then
maybe
I
could
look
to
finance
to
confirm
a
large.
The
majority
of
our
funding
for
transportation
comes
from
dcl
funding,
so
this
would
generally
be
the
things
that
we
talk
about,
which
are
new
versus
renewal,
and
with
that
dcl
funding
we
usually
have
partner
contributions
and
those
are
from
icbc
for
safety,
improvements
and
translink
for
walking
cycling
and
transit
improvements.
N
K
I
think
you
have
covered
all
basically
all
the
renewal
and
maintenance,
all
those
whether
it
is
pay-as-you-go
or
whether
it's
debenture
they're
all
coming
from
property
tax,
which
is
a
transfer
from
operating
budget
to
capital
budget.
But
lon
is
right.
I
mean
for
all
those
new
and
expansion
stuff,
it's
all
funded
from
dcl
transportation,
dcl.
D
D
I
want
to
shift
over
to
technology
because
it
was
the
focus
on
the
technology
presentation
and
my
understanding
was
that,
as
part
of
our
work
to
handle
more
pedestrian
safety
responses
and
questions
around
traffic
enhancements
that
we
were
going
to
have
an
online
platform
where
the
public
could
one
input
their
requests,
but
also
get
a
sense
of
where
things
sit
in
the
queue.
So
you
know
someone
expresses
concern
about
pedestrian
crossing,
but
there
was
going
to
be
like
a
digital
platform
that
would
help
people
navigate
that
and
understand
in
real
time.
E
P
P
I
have
like
a
real
sort
of
general
question
about
sort
of
kpis
looking
at
the
past
capital
plan,
so
I've
been
going
through
the
2019-2022
and
and
seeing
some
things
that
are
on
the
list
from
then
that
we
approved
and
presumably
paid
for
in
that
capital
plan
and
they're
sort
of
carrying
through.
I
wonder
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
have
a
kind
of
comparative
like
what
are
the
kpi?
What
do
we
get
done
versus
what
we
promised
to
do
in
that
capital
plan?
P
And
I
bring
this
up
because
I
look
at
some
of
the
fire
halls
in
particular
like
like
5
and
17,
which
we
kind
of
articulate
as
things
we
accomplished
in
the
last
four
years,
but
I
don't
think
they
were
in
the
most
recent
capital
plan,
and
so
those
are
some
of
the
kind
of
questions
I'm
grappling
with.
So
we
look
at
5
and
17,
for
instance,
as
accomplishments
in
the
last
capital
plan.
E
Thank
you
for
the
question
I'm
going
to
ask
grace
chang
to
respond
for
the
finance
team
on
the
possibility
that
we
could
do
that
analysis.
So,
specifically,
what
was
what
was
committed
to
in
the
current
capital
plan
and
what
have
we
delivered
on
grace.
K
Yes,
we
can
definitely
report
back
on
that,
so
there's
a
difference
between
when
a
project
is
being
funded
versus
when
a
project
is
being
delivered,
in
particular
for
some
of
the
the
projects
like
fire
hall,
some
of
the
fire
house
in
particular
when
housing
is
on
top
and
some
sort
of
co-location
situation,
you
need
to
go
through
rezoning
and
it
takes
time.
K
However,
that
being
said
right
now,
they're
we
we
have
been
putting
a
lot
of
concerted
effort
in
terms
of
how
do
we
streamline
the
whole
delivery
program
so
that
we
can
actually
deliver
more
timely
and
all
and
also
more
cost-effectively.
So
this
is
an
ongoing.
I
would
say,
process
enhance
enhancement
projects
that
we're
going
through
right
now,
but
we
can
definitely
report
back
as
well.
Yeah.
P
Thanks,
I
think
that'd
be
helpful,
because
it
is
a
little
confusing
when,
when
comparing
the
capital
plan
versus
the
deliverables,
we
see
these
reports.
So
do
we
have
a
sense
of
how
we've
accomplished
the
deliverables
that
we
committed
to
in
the
in
the
last
capital
plan?
Have
we
represented
flags
that
we
we
may
not
have
met
the
the
goals?
The.
E
K
P
Okay,
I
I'd
appreciate
that.
Let
me
just
look
at
my
clock.
I'm
going
to
be
coming
back
and
then
ty's
not
here
for
I.t
questions
right.
E
P
Certainly
curious
about
depreciation
of
technological
assets
because
I
know
in
the
business
world:
that's
that's
a
cost
recovery
kind
of,
and
obviously
we
moved
through
technology
very
quickly
in
in
today's
day
and
age
and
I'm
curious
what
we
do
with
end
of
life
machines
and
that
kind
of
thing
and
how
how
we
exactly
cost
recovery.
If
that's
even
a
consideration.
E
Okay,
we'll
get
back
to
it
with
the
answer,
what
we
do
with
our
old
technology
and
do
we
do
we
generate
any
revenue
by
selling?
It
is
that
the
question
yeah
and
how
we
write
it
off
in
that
how
we
write
it
off.
Okay,.
P
Sure,
okay,
with
my
last
minute
and
a
half,
I'm
curious,
I
I
don't
see
any
dollar
amounts
on
the
on
the
vpd
and
and
I'm
very
curious
about
what
we're
projecting,
because
there's
there's
no
money
attached
in
this
report.
I'm
here's
why
we
see
sort
of
unfunded
amounts
and
stuff
and
other
ones.
E
J
Yeah
yeah,
so
so,
when
it
comes
to
police
facilities,
I
mean
you
can
look
at
some
big
cities
in
north
america
and
you're.
Looking
at
you
know
a
billion
dollars
for
like
an
lapd
kind
of
thing,
huge
population
for
vancouver
you're.
J
Looking
at
you
know,
this
is
discussion
based
in
phases
so
ultimately
you're
looking
at
a
multi-purpose
disaster,
proof
building
at
a
600
650
650
million
dollars
as
a
long-term
phased-in
approach
to
all-purpose
building
and
again
it's
not
it's
not
a
vpd
headquarters
as
much
as
a
city
of
vancouver
disaster
center
point
to
manage
a
disaster.
J
A
Q
Yeah
really
appreciate
the
report
and
kind
of
the
background.
First
questions
on
risk
matrix.
Do
we
have
a
risk
matrix
that
we
can
look
at
that
showcases
where
the
aquatic
center
was
and
then
obviously
it
bumped
up
the
list,
but
do
we
have
a
risk
matrix
for
all
our
facilities
in
vancouver
and
so
that,
when
we
are
looking
at
some
of
these
trade-offs
that
we
need
to
make
as
council,
we
understand
what
the
risk
is,
what
level
of
risk
it
is
to
unfund
something
or
to
fund
one
of
the
projects
we
have.
Q
In
most
boards
like
east
park
and
others,
they
have
a
risk
matrix
of
basically
the
capital
funding
projects.
Knowing
what
would
happen
if
you
don't
fund
it?
If
you
extend
funding
how
much
right
costs
would
be
so
they
had
different
color
coding
and
different
organizations.
I've
been
in
that
kind
of
allow
elected
officials
or
board
members
to
understand
where
their
decision
making
needs
to
be
at
with
some
of
the
projects.
So
I
know
like
for
pools.
Q
We
know
some
of
the
pools
are
in
pretty
bad
condition,
so
extending
life
for
a
little
bit
might
be
okay,
but
you
could
have
a
risk
of
that
having
a
failure
and
costing
this
much
more
so
understanding
the
issues,
doing
capital
planning
on
certain
facilities,
and
I
know
the
aquatic
center
jumped
up,
but
for
a
lot
of
the
stuff
here
it
says
difficult
risks
or
risk
of
not
meeting
bylaws
or
not
meeting
standards,
but
you
don't
really
have
a
clear
understanding
of
what
that
real
risk
is.
E
K
I
would
suggest
maybe
for
facilities
I'll
defer
to
refund.
Thank
you.
O
O
It's
armand
amrolia,
I'm
the
interim
gm
for
rafm
kessler,
webb.
We
have
fci
index
that
we
use
to
capitalize
to
look
at
all
of
the
the
capital
projects
that
in
our
portfolios-
and
we
are
looking
at
that
critically,
all
the
time
there
are.
There
are
critical
matrices
that
we
use
to
assess
risk
of
each
of
those
buildings.
Staff
are
just
in
the
process
of
finishing
and
finalizing
the
last
review
of
all
of
those
projects,
and
so
we
can
actually
get
that
to
you
pretty
quickly.
Q
Okay,
how
about
risk
matrix
for
hr
departments
and
other
ones
recognizing?
If
we
don't
fund
a
certain
position,
we
could
have
lost
employment
or
we
could
have
lawsuits
against
us.
We
don't
fund
this.
Do
we
have
a
risk
matrix
that
you
guys
as
staff
utilize
in
decision
making,
so
maybe
city
manager?
Do
you
have
a
a
chart
that
recognizes
when
making
really
difficult
capital
plan
decisions
that
you'd
recognize?
If
we
don't
fund
this
position,
we
might
lose
people
or
we
could
have
a
loss
of
life
or
something
could
happen.
L
Yeah
thanks
for
the
question
counselor,
we
absolutely
do
so.
We
have
an
enterprise
risk
management
program,
it's
managed
by
our
chief
risk
officer
so
and
we
apply
that
lens
to
all
of
our
operations
across
the
board.
So
we
have
a
list
of
risks.
We
rank
all
the
risk
the
city
faces
and
we
manage
those
on
an
ongoing
basis.
So
capital
is
one
kind
of
small
component
of
that.
L
The
departments
do
that
risk
assessment
when
they're
putting
forward
the
plans
that
you're
seeing
here
so
they
have
already,
they
have
already
built
that
risk
assessment
in
so
that
that
is
part
of
the
recommendation.
That's
one
of
the
inputs
that
we
make
to
the
recommendation
that's
coming
forward
for
you,
I'm
happy
to
provide
more
of
a
briefing
around
the
kind
of
dimensions
of
risk
that
we
look
at
in
our
enterprise
risk
management
framework,
and
we
can
engage
patrice
and
a
chief
risk
officer
and
that,
as
may
be
helpful
for
council.
Q
Yeah,
it
just
might
be
helpful
in
some
of
the
privatization,
because
some
of
these
it
says
life
safety
and
lost
revenue
for
renewing
critical
park,
buildings
and
there's
different
ones
to
me,
it'd
be
interesting
to
know
what
is
that
risk
and
what
are
the
opportunities
another
one
for
me
is
what
are
the
opportunities.
So
I
noticed
that
hastings
park
is
one,
that's
unfunded,
but
I
know
we
had
some
federal
funding.
Q
So
what
are
the
opportunities
that,
if
we
don't
fund
something,
we
might
not
get
the
leverage
funding
for
those
projects,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
where
is
federal
funding
allocated
to
some
of
these
capital
projects
if
they're
not
funded
or
funded.
L
Q
C
Yes,
thank
you.
I
brought
up
the
the
last
workshop,
the
memo
from
patrice
on
the
report
back
on
city
funds
allocated
to
downloaded
services
that
have
traditionally
been
delivered
by
senior
governments
and
I'm
looking
at
the
chart
in
the
back
of
that
report
that
shows
the
breakdown
between
operating
and
capital
and
there's
a
total
of
51.5
million
dollars
attributable
to
the
capital
budget
in
two
sections
of
of
downloading
and
emerging
areas
of
potential
senior
government
participation.
C
I
know
that
they
don't
necessarily
relate
directly
to
the
the
capital
projects
that
we're
looking
at
here,
but
in
the
larger
context,
mike.
My
question
is:
are
we
examining
in
our
evaluation
of
these
capital
projects?
The
downloading
aspect
is
detailed
in
this
report.
E
Grace,
can
I
ask
you
or
someone
from
your
team
to
respond.
Please.
K
Yes,
I
can
respond
to
to
this.
We
can
address
it
from
a
downloading
perspective
or
we're
we're
addressing
it
from
a
partnership
perspective
say,
for
example,
housing.
We
always
have
a
funding
formula
that
we
have
in
mind
say
if
the
city
of
vancouver
is
providing
land,
what
kind
of
equity
contribution
or
grant
contribution
and
also
low
cost
financing?
We
expect
from
senior
government
to
kind
of
do
it,
so
we
never
provide
100
of
the
cost.
K
This
is
one
of
those
examples,
child
care
as
well
we're
trying
to
kind
of
leverage
provincial
funding
to
to
to
deliver.
You
know
for
our
childcare
spaces,
so
basically
we're
providing
like
eighty
percent
and
provincial
government
right
now
is
providing
20.
So
these
are
some
of
those
kind
of
existing
funding
formula.
We
always
want
to
advocate
for
more
senior
government
funding
so
that
we're
not
in
it
alone,
so
yeah.
C
But
it
still
costs
us.
So,
let's
you
know
if
we're
putting
up
80
percent
we're
getting
perc
20,
it's
still
costing
us.
So
we
can
talk
about
partnerships
all
we
want.
It
is
weighing
on
our
taxpayers
and
our
budget.
So
my
question
again
in
in
this
examination
of
the
capital
budget,
I
asked
about
this
in
the
last
meeting.
I'm
asking
about
it
again.
I
would
very
specifically
like
to
see
the
downloaded
elements
from
that
were
detailed
in
this
plan,
addressed
as
part
of
this
capital
plan
going
forward.
K
Yes,
we
can
quantify
that
and
at
the
same
time,
just
want
to
reiterate
that
in
particular
about
housing
and
child
care,
all
the
cacs
council
can
actually
choose
to
allocate.
You
know
as
part
of
your
public
hearing
approval
and
then
also
for
dcl.
There
is
a
dcl
review
for
the
next
10
years.
How
do
we
reject
the
allocation?
So
this
is
totally
within
council's
perfume
and
in
particular,
on
the
property
tax,
as
I
alluded
to
earlier,
council
can
choose
to
reallocate,
is
totally
within
council's
jurisdiction.
C
We
know
that
by
accelerating
rezoning
in
particular
to
generate
this
revenue,
it's
inflating
land
values
and
making
things
more
unaffordable,
so
we're
chasing
our
tails
a
bit
in
terms
of
affordability
because
of
this
business
model
that
we
assumed,
I
understand
significantly
regularizing
developer
contributions
starting
in
2009.
C
C
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
have
a
larger
conversation
about
the
impact
of
inflation
based
on
this
business
model.
So
I
don't
want
to
take
up
a
bunch
of
time.
I
know
we're
focused
right
now
on
the
individual,
big
ticket
items
on
the
capital
plan,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
having
a
larger
discussion
about
the
the
plan,
particularly
through
the
lens
of
downloading
and
additional
costs
so
I'll
park
it
there.
A
Thanks
councillor
swanson.
M
Yeah
I'm
looking
at
allocation
for
the
sro
acquisition
strategy,
which
I
thought
was
a
billion
dollars
that
we
were
hoping
for,
and
I
see
there's
12
million
in
there
from
us
and
12
million
from
partners
which
is
24
million.
So
I'm
figuring.
This
is
going
to
take
us
160
years
to
get
the
1
billion.
So
can
we
at
least
come
up
with
maybe
trying
to
get
more
from
the
partners
so
that
we
can
speed
this
up
a
bit.
R
R
M
Okay,
thanks
and
then
there's
unfunded
25
million
for
supportive
housing
unfunded
2
million
for
the
sro
investment
strategy.
R
So
the
2
million
identified
in
the
unmet
elements
would
be
the
city's
contribution
to
the
to
the
planning
and
administration
of
the
strategy.
It
will
be
a
very
significant
piece
of
work
that
will
require
an
ongoing
staff
team
from
all
three
levels
of
government,
including
feasibility
studies
and
research,
and
so
that
that
two
million
there
is
would
be
our
administrative
contribution
to
to
that
long-range
strategy.
M
Okay,
I'm
just
wondering
I
was
hoping
that
at
some
point
we
would
get
a
number
as
to
how
much
money
we
need
to
actually
meet
the
housing
need
for
people
who
are
homeless
and
low-income
people,
and
I'm
wondering
if
that's
going
to
be
coming
or
if
we
have
any
idea
of
it
right
now.
R
Okay,
yeah
that
that
work
is
almost
complete
and
we
should
have
a
memo
for
council
this
spring
as
well.
There's
a
an
additional
council
motion
related
to
relating
to
required
funding
around
housing
delivery
and
we'll
be
reporting
on
that
before
the
capital
plan.
Also
through
a
memo.
E
Thanks,
I'm
going
to
ask
dan
garrison
from
our
planning
department
to
respond
to
that.
B
I
thank
you
for
the
question
that
we
are
considering
that
counselor
swanson,
the
dcl
waivers
and
the
structure
of
the
waiver
program
through
the
dcl
review-
that's
underway
right
now,
so
we
are
looking
at
a
range
of
options
with
what
to
do
with
the
dcl
waivers,
including
keeping
the
waivers
completely
removing
the
waivers
and
a
few
options
in
the
middle,
such
as
waivers
for
for
rental,
with
more
affordable
ability
built
into
it.
So
we're
looking
at
that
range
of
options
that
will
be
coming
back
to
you
later
in
the
spring.
M
O
Counselor
patricia
simpy,
we
look
at
all
those
options
in
and
that's
a
big
piece
of
the
of
the
capital
planning
is
looking
at
the
co-location
opportunities
up
to
optimize,
really
the
land
that
we
have
so
we've
we've
done
that
both
with
housing
on
top
of
fire
halls,
etc,
but
also
co-locating,
our
community
centers,
with
libraries
et
cetera.
So
that's
a
big
part
of
the
plan
short
answer.
Okay,.
A
I'm
I'm
going
to
stop
you
there
counselor,
sponsor
because
you're
at
your
five
minutes.
However,
I
just
been
talking
back
and
forth
with
the
clerk
and
we
actually
have
to
include
the
questions
we
asked
last
meeting
under
council
procedures.
So
if
we're
going
to
go
to
more
questions
from
counselor
kirby
on
counselor
weave,
which
would
be
the
third
round
of
questions
for
them,
I
do
need
a
motion
to
suspend
the
procedural
bylaw
in
order
to
enable
that.
A
A
Great
okay,
we've
extended
so
counselor
swanson.
You
can
put
yourself
back
on
the
bottom
of
the
list
for
another
question
at
counselor.
Carr,
please
go
ahead
and
I
believe
this
is
your
first.
I
got
your
brand
new
first
today,
but
maybe
you
asked
one
anyway
go
ahead.
S
Thank
you
thanks
very
much
so
first,
just
like
councillor
swanson
talks
about.
Can
we
put
housing
everywhere,
I'm
talking
about.
Can
we
tackle
the
climate
crisis
with
all
our
projects,
but
I'm
going
to
start
with
fire
and
happy
to
hear
that
downtown
south
yaletown
firehouse
is
now
being
contemplated.
I
think
that's
an
important
one.
If
I
look
at
the
density
in
that
area.
So
just
a
point
about
that.
S
E
I
We
are
completing
or
just
about
completed
our
30-year
fire
hall
study
review
and
that
does
take
into
kind
of
the
first
doing
response
and
being
able
to
have
apparatus
at
the
within
being
able
to
arrive
on
scene
within
six
to
seven
minutes
to
be
able
to
mitigate
and
knock
down
those
fires
as
a
first
in
and
then
as
long
as
the
erf.
S
Okay,
thank
you.
That's
great.
I
was
very
disturbed
by
hearing
that
there
are
firefighters
in
fire
halls
that
do
not
have
heat
pumps
and
we
have
heat
domes
and
we
can
expect
more
heat
domes.
I
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
That
is
probably
number
one
on
my
list
for
this
year
and
next
year
into
our
continued
capital,
renewal
projects
and
some
of
that
funding
that
we
are
going
on
that
because
we
need
to
have
comfort
for
those
and
it's
very
hot
in
those
facilities
and.
S
They're
already
stressed
by
their
calls,
thank
you
and
overall
I
I'm
going
to
talk
about
climate
a
bit.
Oh
sorry,
just
before
that
west
end
community
hub
can
we
have
data
on
how
much
has
been
collected
in
community
amenity
contributions
towards
the
west
end
plan
to
to
provide
for
those
services,
and
you
know,
sort
of
desperate
in
that
area.
The
population
is
increasing
a
lot.
E
Thanks
for
the
question
grace
over
to
your
team
for
this
one,
please.
K
Yes,
that
one
we
can
report
back
on
on
the
community.
Sorry
the
cc
collected
today.
We
can
report
that
later.
S
Thanks
very
much
appreciate
that
fire
hall-
sorry,
the
fire
hall
arts,
theater
renewal,
I've
been
there,
you
know,
I
I
just
got
a
report
high
high
storms,
there's
water
and
there
are
electrical
rooms
in
the
basement.
Why
aren't
we
I
mean
this
seems
like
a
big
risk
up
to
a
key
community
asset.
E
R
Thank
you
councillor
for
the
question.
Yes,
the
fire
hall
theater
is
a
100
year
old,
building
a
40
year
old
theater
with
and
it's
it
is
a
long
overdue
for
upgrades.
We
did.
R
We
did
the
feasibility
study
with
the
last
capital
plan
and
and
determined
that
we
it's
a
it's
a
building,
that's
adjacent
with
the
police
museum,
so
it's
phased
over
over
both
of
those
organizations,
so
we're
we
have
in
our
unmet
needs
category
just
treating
the
fire
hall
theater
and
doing
some
of
those
critical
buildings
upgrades
as
well
as
dealing
with
the
accessibility.
It's.
S
Still
in
the
unfunded
list,
though,
so
we
may
bring
it
up,
I
may
bring
it
up
next
time.
I
know
that
we
have
to
do
that
analysis
and
also,
in
terms
of
just
the
west
end
very
concerned,
to
hear
our
chief
librarian,
christina
castell
talk
about
the
library
being
at
capacity
and
opening
day.
I
don't
need
to
answer
that
just
very
concerned
that
we're
not
planning
with
the
anticipated
growth
that
is
already
happening
in
the
west
end
faster
than
the
plan
ever
anticipated
way:
more
housing
units
there.
S
So,
okay,
final
final
question:
this
week,
the
intergovernmental
panel
on
climate
change
put
out
another
assessment
report
and
specifically
for
policy
makers
like
us,
and
the
language
in
it
is
incredibly
dire.
I
mean
it
talks
about
this.
There
is
no
time
to
wait
for
investments
in
climate.
I
know
I'm
running
out
of
time,
but
I
want
to
know
if
we've
analyzed
this
capital
plan
in
terms
of
how
much
we
are
actually
spending
to
bring
down
ghgs
and
by
how
much
we
can
bring
down
ghgs
in
this
plan,
council.
E
Asked
us
for
that
at
the
last,
the
first
half
of
this
session
and
staff
is
busily
working
away
to
make
sure
we
can
provide
you
the
most
accurate
information
we
plan
to
get
that
to
council
very
soon
by
memo.
H
Thanks
mayor,
I'm
going
to
start
off
with
the
aquatic
center
question,
and
I
just
want
to
frame
this
out
a
little
bit.
Is
that
what's
the
allocation
made
to
the
aquatic
center,
if
any,
what
would
be
the
total
to
renew
it?
And
is
there
an
opportunity
to
augment
this
with
community
cacs
are
coming
from
future
area
development
projects
the
council
may
not
yet
have
approved
and
significantly
what's
the
safety
rating
and
lifespan
of
the
current
facility.
Now.
K
Right
from
a
funding
perspective,
the
aquatic
center
is
100
funded
in
the
current
draft
capital
plan.
Just
just
to
reiterate
again,
we
will
never
contemplate
any
cases
that
has
not
gone
through
council
approval
to
include
in
the
plan.
Whatever
we
have
received.
We
include
in
the
plan,
so
it's
100
funded
it's
between
renewal
dollars
and
also
cac
on
together
to
fund
the
renewal
and
expansion
of
the
aquatic
center.
H
So,
just
to
be
clear,
you're
saying
that
we're
going
to
renew
and
deliver
a
new
aquatic
center
in
the
next
capital
plan,
yeah
yeah,
it's
a
ninja
drop.
It's
good!
I
didn't
see
a
line
item
specific
against
it
and
what
will
that
deliver?
Will
that
deliver
the
expanded
vision
for
the
facility
that
the
park
board
had
landed.
K
On,
yes,
it
will
be
expanded,
but
we're
still
confirming
the
scale
of
expansion.
H
O
Yeah
for
sure
I'm
armand
ambrellia
interim
gym
rfm.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Yes,
that's
what
we're
looking
for
we're
looking
at
the
feasibility
right
now
of
ensuring
that
we
can
actually
do
the
design,
planning
and
at
least
start
the
construction
for
the
new
aquatic
center
in
this
capital
plan,
so
we
are
looking
and
targeting
for
digging
and
and
breaking
ground
at
the
end
of
around
2026.
H
O
It's
it's
the
fci
on
that
is
very,
very
low,
and
so
we're
looking
at
critical
end-of-life
systems
and
it
is
absolutely
getting
critical
for
life
and
safety
as
well.
H
O
H
H
Yeah,
I'm
really
interested
in
an
answer
back.
I
know
that
there's
reference
to
the
fact
that
we
can
help
support
some
business
license.
Applications
online
or
people
can
submit
plans
electronically,
but
I'm
looking
for
more
perspective
and
pull
some
information
on
actually
having
the
ability
for
real-time
technology
and
automation
of
some
of
the
permitting
processes,
the
ability
to
check
in
on
the
status
of
an
application.
H
For
you
know
some
of
these
systems,
you
see
where
any
staff
member
can
pick
up
based
on
the
history
of
something
move
it
forward
versus
what
seems
to
more
to
be
a
bit
asynchronous
in
terms
of
uploaded
plans
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
can
we
get
some
information
back
on
when
we
could
meaningfully.
E
L
So
yeah
thanks
counselor
great
thanks
for
the
question.
Absolutely
that's!
The
objective
is
to
provide
people
with
that
type
of
real-time
access
to
the
status
of
their
applications,
so
we're
absolutely
working
in
that
direction.
It's
it's
a
significant
transformation
of
our
existing
systems,
but
but
yeah
the
the
investment
that
spoke
about
in
our
permitting
licensing
systems.
That's
that's
one
of
the
key
objectives
for
that
so
again,
happy
to
provide
more
detail,
but
we're
definitely
heading
in
that
direction.
H
Okay,
super
paul.
That
would
be
really
helpful
and
maybe,
while
you're
there
you,
you
may
not
be
the
person
you
might
be
able
to
answer
this
question.
It's
around
the
city
hall
campus
that
was
contemplated
in
the
last
plan
and
I
know,
there's
a
notional
amount
in
terms
of
civic
facilities
and
planning,
but
given
the
significant
needs
we
have
like
within
aquatic
centre
crumbling
and
other
needs
across
the
city.
Are
we
putting
the
city
all
campus
planning
on
hold.
L
H
No
okay,
great
and
then
I'll
ask
this
other
question,
which
is
the
animal
control
center,
which
might
potentially
have
a
significant
lineup
or
allocation
about
it.
We're
hearing
for
things
like
we
can't
fund
the
fire
hall
art
center
right
now.
I
understand
a
big
part
of
that
is
around
it's
not
accessible
to
artists
or
to
patrons
it's
not
compliant
with
performing
arts
associations
in
terms
of
their
regulations
and
some
pretty
significant
issues
with
accessibility.
H
There
no
way
to
get
artists
in
and
sort
of
in
an
elegant
and
respectful
way,
so
can
something
like
the
animal
control
center
be
deferred
to
a
future
capital
plan
to
support
other
projects.
E
I'll
ask
armand
amrolia
to
speak
about
the.
Why
that
that
project's
been
prioritized
in
this
plan
or
in
the
draft
preliminary
preliminary
draft
plan
armin.
O
Certainly,
army
and
earlier
interim
gm
rfm.
Thank
you
for
the
question
again.
Yes,
so
we're
looking
at
co-locating
this
with
the
spca
renewal
that
they're
also
doing
on
their
site
right
now,
and
if
we
don't
include
it
in
this
plan,
I
think
we're
going
to
lose
the
opportunity
of
that
co-location,
which
will
then
cost
the
city
a
lot
more
funding
to
actually
build
a
stand-alone
animal
services
center.
O
So
if
we
actually
look
at
all
of
the
synergies
that
we
actually
get
with
this
co-location,
we've
made
the
the
commitment
or
or
certainly
looking
at
the
feasibility
of
actually
co-locating
our
animal
services
center.
With
the
new
spca
building,
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
synergy
with
with
the
co-location.
Q
Yeah.
My
first
question
today
is
mostly
focused
on
the
big
projects,
the
ones
that
are
unfunded.
Are
we
able
to
get
a
little
bit
more
explanation?
I
think
mostly
the
public
like
on
someone
like
britannia.
It
looks
like
we're
funding
the
design,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
fund
the
building
to
2027.
Are
we
able
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
that
those
projects
are
going
along
just
what
parts
are
funded
and
not
funded.
E
Absolutely
when
we
bring
well
we're
bringing
if
council
as
directs
us
to
will
be
bringing
the
plan
out
for
a
lot
of
public
consultation
through
may
and
the
team
will
be
working
with
our
communications
and
and
civic
engagement
department
to
to
to
get
all
that
messaging.
Right
and
we'll
certainly
include
messaging
around
where
there
isn't
funding
to
actually
build
something.
Where
we're
investing
in
continued
planning
and
design
to
move
toward
a
building
phase.
Q
We're
just
timing
that
we
won't
be
able
to
get
billed
by
2027
anyway.
So
that's
why
this
is
happening
is
just
sometimes
helpful,
the
public
to
know
that
their
project
isn't
just
being
dropped,
but
it's
continuously
moving
forward.
My
next
one's
coming
from
being
on
the
personal
disability
advisory
committee,
there's
significant
amounts
in
almost
every
single
one
of
the
departments,
including
community
facilities,
civic
facilities,
cultural
facilities,
hardcore
transportation,
talking
about
reduced
accessibility
and
to
me
this
is
a
really
key
one,
as
well
as
under
recreational
facilities,
accessibility,
inclusion,
improvements,
not
being
funded.
Q
Well,
so
almost
I
can
go
through
them,
so
under
recreation
facilities,
7
million
accessibility,
inclusion
improvements,
huge
risk
under
almost
every
other
plan
that
talks
about
reduced
accessibility
to
carnegie
gathering
place,
ellen
saller,
city-owned
facilities,
active
transportation,
says
neighborhood.
Traffic
management
will
have
loss
of
accessibility
to
me.
Looking
at
this
and
recognizing
the
struggles
we've
had
to
fund
some
accessibility
improvements
in
the
city
and
get
the
accessible
city
strategy
passed.
Q
E
Sure
I
understand
how
you're
referring
to
the
unfunded
elements
of
the
plan
when
you're
listing
what
isn't
funded,
we
we'd
have
to
have
a
coherent
conversation
about
that.
We'd
also
have
to
share
with
council
all
the
elements
in
the
funded
potential.
You
know
proposed
funded
plan
that
address
accessibility,
and
we
can
add
that
to
our
to-do
list.
If
that
would
be
useful
for
council
grace.
Do
you
want
to
add
anything
to
that.
K
Yeah,
I
was
going
to
say
exactly
the
same
thing.
We
will
quantify
basically
what
we're
funding
at
the
minimum
as
a
rule
of
thumb.
Basically,
we
will
at
least
keep
the
same
level
of
funding
in
the
current
capital
plan,
plus
an
inflationary
factor,
so
I
think
we
are
not
losing
out
on
on
the
amount
of
funding,
but
I
guess
your
question
is:
are
we
ramping
up
the
funding,
so
we
can
report
back
on
that.
Q
Q
A
lot
of
the
work
that
could
have
rois
and
I
don't
know
what
the
rois
are.
So
when
we're
doing
recirculating
of
water
recognizing
the
help
meter
bylaw,
it
also
will
reduce
costs.
Some
of
the
green
of
structure
can
reduce
costs.
Do
we
have,
and
some
of
them
say
that
they're
only
10
for
the
cultural
grants
that
could
actually
get
more
money?
Do
we
have
rois
where,
if
we
do
fund
this
project
over
10
years,
it
will
reduce
100
000
per
year
of
water
costs
right
or
this
project?
Q
K
Yeah
well
yeah
I
can.
I
can
speak
to
that.
So
some
of
we
actually
analyze
the
business
case
for
some
of
those
that
have
rois,
but
we
don't
do
it
for
every
single
program,
but
we
can
actually
look
into.
I
think
in
particular,
when
you
highlight
you
know
green
infrastructure,
we
can
talk
about.
We
can
report
back
on
that
as
well.
Q
Okay,
I
just
see
some
that,
like
we
know
how
much
illegal
street
vending
is
costing
our
city
and,
however,
we're
not
funding
the
powell
cd
hub
or
like
there's
a
few
of
these-
that
we
know
what
it's
going
to
cost.
By
not
doing
these
projects
and
to
me
some
of
these
probably
are
cost
neutral
or
some
of
them
we
might
actually
save
funding
by
doing
the
project.
So
it'd
be
interesting
to
see
that
data,
so
we
can
be
like
okay.
Q
That
makes
sense
if
we
don't
fund
that,
because
some
of
the
ones,
mostly
some
of
the
social
service
ones,
we've
seen
how
much
it
costs
to
deliver
stuff
that
we're
not
being
proactive
at
and
so
sometimes
some
of
the
stuff
looks
like
we're
underfunding.
The
proactive
approaches
that
we
know
cost
us
more
in
the
long
run,
and
so
just
be
interesting
to
have
some
of
that
data
moving
forward.
M
Yeah,
I
just
have
one
left
here.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
answer
it
right
now,
but
maybe
in
an
email,
I'm
wondering
what
percentage
of
the
housing
in
the
capital
budget
is
net
new
rather
than
replacement.
I
know
we're
we're
always
thinking
that
we're
building
new
housing
or
buying
new
hotels,
but
the
homelessness
doesn't
seem
to
be
going
down
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
to
what
extent
we're
just
replacing
what
we
have,
rather
than
actually
building
additional
new.
R
Chancellor,
thank
you
for
the
question
on
sly,
12
of
your
presentation.
Deck
in
the
draft
capital
plan
proposed
allocation.
We
have
itemized
out
the
the
various
unit
counts
associated
with
the
proposed
capital
plan
elements
in
the
four
years.
We're
hoping
to
deliver
through
baja
about
2500
units
that'll
be
subject
to
senior
government
funding,
but
that's
what
we've
we're
currently
hoping
for.
There's
an
additional
900
units
of
new
housing
that
we
hope
to
enable
through
the
chip
program
with
non-profit
partners
and
about
725
units
through
inclusionary.
D
Hi
thanks
mayor,
I'm
wondering
if
a
staff
could
comment,
and
maybe
it's
communications,
but
how
this
will
be
presented
publicly
for
public
engagement
because
it
is
complex
and
and
obviously
the
question
that
goes
on
the
ballot
is
related
to
dementia.
Borrowing
is
my
recollection,
and
so
could
staff
comment
on
on
how
this
information
will
be
presented
and
digestible
for
the
public
to
understand
how
what
the
draft
plan
prioritizes
in
terms
of
new
capital
in
terms
of
maintenance
upgrades
and
so
on.
E
Sure,
thanks
and
and
I
just
split
that
question
into
two
parts,
because
the
question
that
goes
on
the
plebiscite
ballot
is
is
very
specific
and
legalistic
and
then
there's
the
broader
communications
you're
referring
to
so
in
terms
of
the
latter.
I
I
don't
know
if
I
don't
see
maria
ponticus
on
the
call
do
we
have
someone
here
from
our
civic
engagement
and
communications
department.
E
I'm
sorry
we're
going
to
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that.
On
that
question,
council
and
in
terms
of
the
plebiscite
question,
perhaps
grace
can
address
that
one.
K
So,
can
you
repeat
your
question
again?
Is
it
about
like
how
do
we
educate
the
public
on
the
adventure
question.
D
I
I
was,
I
was
largely
asking
how
we
will
be
presenting
the
draft
capital
plan,
and
it
is
more
of
a
communications
question
in
terms
of
how
that
information
is
presented
in
a
digestible
format
to
understand
what
is
new
capital,
what
is
maintenance,
what
it?
What
is
actually
related
to
the
ballot
question
which
is
debenture
or,
and
so
I
think
it
is
a
communications
question
I
can
take-
have
that
offline.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
addressed
right
now,
thanks.
D
Yeah,
I
had
one
more
question,
but
I've
actually
forgotten
it,
so
I
will
follow
up
with
an
email
and
I
had
a
few
more
technology
questions.
So
thank
you.
A
Thanks
council
car.
S
Thanks,
I
just
want
to
continue
on
on
how
we're
tackling
climate,
the
climate
crisis,
through
our
plan
and
I'm
happy.
We
retrofit
libraries
branches
with
hvac,
but
could
I
somebody-
or
maybe
it's
christina
de
castel,
tell
me
how
many
of
our
libraries
have
actually
got
heat
pumps
so
that
they
are
safe
places
to
retreat
to,
in
times
of
of
extreme
weather
events,
both
heat
and
cold.
E
S
Plans
are
related
to
heat
pumps.
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
appreciate
that
and
if
arya
fm
is
going
to
be
commenting
on
libraries,
I'm
really
interested
in
knowing
just
how
many
of
our
civic
buildings
that
would
be
libraries,
community,
centers,
other
public
facing
well-used
civic
buildings,
have
heat
pumps,
we'll.
E
S
Thank
you
and
paul
mercury
spoke
to
you
know.
Is
there,
you
didn't
quite
see
the
risks,
but
the
wisdom
of
not
going
beyond
the
current
projection
in
terms
of
increasing
our
borrowing
and
spending
in
terms
of
the
capital
plan.
What
really
is
the
risk?
There
I
mean
it's
the
risk
that
if
we
increase
the
spending
in
the
capital
plan
that
that
it
will
have
an
impact
on
on
taxes,
or
can
you
just
spell
that
for
out
for
me
yeah
thanks.
L
Counselor,
I
think
the
primary
risk
is
that
those
decisions
will
actually
be
made
by
the
next
council.
So
if
we
build
a
capital
plan
that
contemplates
revenue
assumptions
that
aren't
realistic,
we're
going
to
have
a
plan,
that's
not
realistic!
So
that
that's
my
primary
concern.
Obviously
it
will
be
the
next
council
that
decides
how
much
tax
they
want
to
impose
and
how
much
boring
they
want
to
take
on.
Obviously,
there's
there's
debenture
boring
that
we
need
to
settle
here,
but
my
advice
to
count.
S
Yes
and
so
paul
what
if
we
don't,
increase
this
capital
plan
by
sufficient
amount
of
money
to
actually
really
tackle
the
climate
crisis,
and
we
end
up
four
years
later
from
now
on
nearing
2030,
when
every
major
scientist
in
the
world
is
imploring
public
decision
makers
to
put
their
heart
and
soul
into
tackling
the
climate
crisis.
Right
now,.
S
O
Know,
councillor
carr,
just
the
capital
plan,
gets
updated
very
regularly
through
the
through
the
four
years.
If
you
remember,
we
did
a
midterm
update,
partly
through
this
capital
plan.
So
there's
lots
of
opportunity
to
we
prioritize,
but
we
do
need
to
you
know.
We
need
to
set
out
a
plan
for
for
us
to
start
getting
all
of
those
things
ready
and
and
but
there
is
an
opportunity
for
subsequent
councils
to
shift.
The
one
piece
that
can
that
is
set
is
the
amount
of
borrowing
so
for
renewal
where
we
use
debt.
O
That's
the
piece
that
gets
set
during
the
election
and
for
utilities
council
can
change
that.
But
for
a
non-utility,
that's
the
piece.
That's
fixed.
S
So
does
that
make
sense?
Thank
you.
I
I
appreciate
that
patrice.
I'm
so
are
not
the
upgrade
of
buildings
that
are
civic
owned
buildings
to
include
heat
pumps.
Isn't
that
renewal.
S
O
S
Yes,
I
know
it's
great
to
pay
as
you
go.
We
like
to
do
that,
but
we
also
have
a
crisis,
an
existential
crisis
that,
if
you
know-
and
I'm
hearing,
I'm
just
so
distraught
by
other
governments
at
other
levels,
who
are
simply
not
taking
it
seriously
by
their
actions
and
investing.
But
I
will
not
wrongly,
but
I
won't
go
into
that
in
detail.
It's
just
that.
We
have
an
opportunity
with
this
plan
to
potentially
increase
the
amount
of
borrowing
we
do
to
enable
us
to
then
have
the
funds
in
place.
S
And,
yes,
it
has
to
be
repaid-
and
I
understand
that
that
would
you
know
that
we
have
to
have
a
payment
schedule.
We
have
to
have
income
coming
in
to
be
able
to
pay
that,
but
I'm
just
asking
what
the
risks
are
of
of.
Actually
us
increasing
that
borrowing
now
through
a
dementia,
so
that
we
have
the
funds
in
place
to
be
able
to
apply
them
as
needed
to
the
capital
projects
of
upgrading,
at
least
our
own
civic
buildings.
A
Five
minutes
so
we'll
have
to
wait
for
a
written
response
with
that
one
counselor
dominato,
you
have
three
minutes
left.
D
Thanks
and
thanks
jeff,
I
just
have
two
more
questions.
One
is
around
if
there's
a
way
as
a
follow-up,
a
document
or
graphic
or
visual,
to
get
a
an
overview
of
the
proposed
capital
investments
and
how
they
slot
into
what
would
be
sort
of
the
kind
of
critical
core
services
that
we
typically
at
the
city
level,
will
cover
whether
it
be
streets,
whether
it
be
sanitation,
waste
and
then
other
areas
that
and
also
civic
buildings.
Things
like
that
they're
responsible
in
terms
of
maintenance
and
then
other
areas.
D
D
So
that
was
one
question
that
can
be
done
offline,
but
my
other
question
is
around
particularly
around
solid
waste
and
a
note
from
staff
that
zero
waste
initiatives
are
primarily
unfunded
and
I'm
curious
why
that
is,
and
if
that
includes,
for
example,
under
sanitation,
it
says
we're
deploying
we've
budgeted
for
deploying
350,
new
high-volume
recycling
and
litter
containers.
Does
that
include
zero
waste?
D
Centers,
specifically
in
commercial
areas,
at
public
parks
and
and
pools
and
other
areas,
I've
asked
about
previously
or
those
not
included,
and
but
if
you
could
just
explain
sort
of
why
there
is
not
any
allocation
for
zero
waste
initiatives
or
very
little.
Based
on
the
slides,
I'm
saying.
N
Yes,
so
the
high
volume,
the
350
high
volume,
recycling,
they're
recycling
and
litter
containers,
so
they're
they're
going
to
be
deployed
in
the
areas
where
we
see
the
the
greatest
need
and
where
we
see
bins
overflowing
the
the
reason
that
the
diversion
items
are
identified
as
unfunded
be
is
because
they're
they're
they're
high
cost,
with
kind
of
I
guess
harder
for
us
to
justify
the
cost
of
those.
And
so
that
includes
the
the
northern
location,
the
northern
location
of
zero
waste
facility
and
the
the
diversion
of
challenging
materials.
D
Okay
thanks,
I
appreciate
that
and
I
think
I'll
leave
my
questions
there,
but
hopefully
staff
might
be
able
to
address
my
first
question
around
getting
a
better
sort
of
visual
of
the
capitalist
proposed
capital
expenditures
relative
to
core
services
and
other
services.
Thanks.
K
Yep,
I
can
answer
that
kind
you
want
to.
You
want
me
to
answer.
Okay,
race
challenge,
launch
financial
strategy.
Yes,
we
we
actually
look
at
our
boring
authority
with
regards
to
how
much
the
operating
budget
can
and
can
use
to
fund
the
financing
cost,
which
is
like
the
principal
payment
as
well
as
the
interest
cost.
So
we
need
to
always
kind
of
look
at
what
is
the
impact
of
borrowing
have
on
on
the
operating
budget
for
one?
K
The
second
thing
is
we
also
look
at
how
the
credit
rating
agencies
are
gonna,
look
at
our
debt
load
and
if
they
see
it,
is
like
increasing
in
a
rate
that
is
not
comfortable,
then
they
would
downgrade
us
and
that
subsequently
will
increase
our
borrowing
costs
as
well.
So
we
actually
look
at
multiple
dimensions
to
look
at
what
is
the
maximum
boring
envelope
that
we
can
actually
take
so.
K
M
So
what
about
this
idea
of
you're
saying
that
we're
we're
budgeting
in
a
tax
increase
of
one
percent
every
year?
What
if
we
upped
it
to
two
percent
for
crucial
things
like
climate
and
housing,
where
we
end
up
paying
more
by
not
having
them
in
the
future
anyway,
I
I
can
comment,
be
the
downside
of
that.
E
K
Yeah,
I
think,
as
paul
mentioned,
I
think
this
is
just
a
capital
plan.
It
is
how
we
contemplate
to
kind
of
you
know,
invest
in
our
infrastructure
and
amenities
over
the
next
four
years.
However,
the
actual
implementation
will
have
to
be
approved
as
part
of
the
annual
budget
by
future
council.
So
I
guess
at
the
risk
of
projecting,
I
would
say,
a
higher
revenue
envelope
when
it's
not
really
controlled
by
this
current
council.
I
think
there
is
the
risk
that
paul
is
trying
to
to
allude
to.
A
Great
thanks
so
much
that's
it
for
questions
thanks
staff
for
all
the
work
on
this,
perhaps
deputy
city
manager,
you
could
walk
us
through
the
next
steps.
E
Sure,
I'm
actually
gonna
just
pull
up
a
slide
to
do
that.
If
you
bear
with
me
for
a
second.
A
And
I'll
just
ask
the
clerks,
I
guess
we're
we're
done
with
this
one,
and
so
I
I'm
not
sure
if
we
recess
or
we
adjourn,
I
guess
I
could
look
at
my
script.
I
will
do
that.
E
Okay,
so
this
oak,
I
need
to
share
my
screen
again.
Pardon
me.
E
Okay,
you're
gonna
see
this
is
this
is
a
slide
we
shared
with
you
on
march.
31St,
you've
seen
it
before,
and
this
shows
you
the
next
steps
plotted
out.
We
are
going
to
embark
on
public
engagement.
I
think
those
dates
might
be
off
by
a
couple
of
days,
but
basically
effectively
it's
through
the
the
most
of
may
will
be
taking
the
preliminary
draft
plan
out
to
public
engagement.
E
That
will
happen
after
we
come
to
you,
council,
on
april
26th,
with
a
what
would
be
a
formal
we've
been
calling
this
the
preliminary
draft
capital
plan,
what
we
will
be
bringing
you
on
april
26
will
be
the
draft
capital
plan
and-
and
you
will
be
seeking
your
your
your
direction
to
take
that
out
for
public
engagement
and
at
the
end
of
that
we
will
bring
a
briefing
back
to
council
in
late
june
and
then
in
july,
we'll
come
with
the
final
capital
plan
for
your
approval.
E
So
that's
calendar
wise
next
steps
and
just
pardon
me-
I
gotta
jump
around
a
little
bit
for
a
moment
on
the
slides.
Oh
no,
I
don't
have
any
so
that
that's
that's!
What's
gonna
happen
in
a
number
we
don't
have
on
the
slides,
which
we've
told
you
already
today
is.
We
have
probably
close
to
getting
close
to
100
questions.
To
answer
for
you,
this
team
is
going
to
be
answering
those
questions
that
you
put
to
us
today
and
the
ones
that
have
come
in
through
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
E
A
I
I
was
going
to
ask
so
procedurally
if
there
are
amendments
that
council
would
like
to
make.
Does
that
come
at
the
april
26
meeting
or
the
july
meeting.
E
Council
can
opt
to
to
bring
forward
through
emotion,
amendments
or
recommendations
to
staff
at
either
of
those.
E
The
challenge
will
be
at
the
april
meeting
that
staff
will
have
a
very
short
turnaround
time
before
we
to
make
the
changes
that
council
requests
and
then
get
the
draft
plan
out
the
door
for
the
for
the
public
engagement.
So
we
feel
the
optimum
time
for
you
to
make.
Adjustments
to
the
plan
will
be
at
the
july.
6Th
council
meeting
and
and
you'll
also
have
the
benefit
of
the
public
input
to
the
plan.
At
that
point,
as
you
suggest,
changes
to
the
draft
plan.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
just
a
question
to
clerks.
Do
we
adjourn
it?
I'm
just
looking
so
we
adjourn
at
this
stage
and
then
come
back
at
a
separate.
A
newly
constituted
meeting
on
april
26th
is
that
right.
B
Stewart
can
we
just
take
a
moment
to
have
a
break
for
just
a
moment
before
you.
I
need
to
speak
with
with
you
offline.
A
Okay,
great,
I
will
just
we
don't
have
a
secondary
yet
so
I'll
just
take
a
pause
for
a
second
and
come
back
to
council.
B
J
A
We
do
have
an
opportunity
to
make
amendments
today.
I
just
that.
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
for
your
for
your
knowledge,
however,
there
are
other
opportunities,
as
pointed
out
by
staff,
either
on
april
26
or
on
in
july
to
to
make
other
amendments.
So
I'm
pointing
that
out
to
you
and
just
want
to
see
we
have
a
second
or
for
the
motion
to
adjourn.
A
Thanks
all
in
favor
yay.