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From YouTube: Council Meeting - July 11, 2023
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A
A
Bylaw,
the
city
of
Vancouver
electronic
meetings
as
such
council
members
and
the
public
May
participate
in
person
or
buy
electronic
means
if
a
council
member
attending
by
like
yeah
okay,
if
a
council
member
attending
by
electronic
means
loses
connection
during
the
voting
process,
team
members
are
available
to
get
you
back
online
quickly.
While
the
voting
process
is
suspended.
Team
members
contact
information
has
been
circulated
to
You
video
of
council
meeting.
Sorry,
video
of
council
members
speaking
presentations
and
vote
results
will
be
projected
on
the
live
stream.
A
When
available
council
members
are
reminded
that,
in
accordance
with
section
14.13
of
the
procedure,
bylaw
members
must
enable
their
video
to
confirm
form
in
case
of
an
emergency
where
we
need
to
evacuate
the
building.
I'd
like
to
direct
your
attention
to
the
exits
there's
an
exit
right
there.
So
it
just
goes
through
the
glass
doors
and,
if
you're
off
to
your
left
and
if
that's
blocked,
for
whatever
reason,
there's
4X.
It's
here,
walk
calmly
to
one
of
those
exits
and
we'll
give
you
more
instructions.
Thereafter.
A
I'd
also
like
to
highlight
that
there's
the
defibrillator
at
the
end
of
this
hallway
in
case
anyone
feels
a
little
pain
on
their
chest.
We'd
also
like
to
acknowledge
that
we
are
hosting
today's
council
meeting
on
the
unseated
territories
of
the
musqueam,
the
Squamish
and
the
swellitude
First
Nations,
and
we
do
want
to
thank
them
for
their
generosity
and
their
hospitality
and
the
love
and
the
care
that
they
show
this
land
that
we
get
to
live
work
and
play
on
and
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon.
A
All
of
us
to
be
incredibly
intentional
to
unlearn
what
we've
been
taught
in
the
past
to
learn
the
true
histories
as
to
what's
happened
on
these
lands,
and
if
we
do
that,
I
truly
believe
we
can
have
more
meaningful
and
robust
reconciliation
and
we
can
build
a
brighter
future
for
all
of
us
and
our
kids
and
our
grandkids
and
seven
generations
going
forward,
paddling
together
in
the
same
direction
and
a
life
of
abundance,
and
so
thank
you
very
much.
A
I
also
want
to
recognize
the
incredible
contributions
of
our
team
members
throughout
the
city
and
we've
said
this
countless
times
they
work
incredibly
hard
and
they
really
care
about
what
they
do
and
it's
an
honor
to
be
working
side
by
side
with
them.
Now,
on
a
more
somber
note,
I
would
like
to
take
a
couple
of
moments
and
sort
of
highlight
the
fact
that
on
July,
the
4th
of
so
last
week,
there
was
a
tragic
accident.
A
A
counselor
in
Merit
by
the
name
of
Claire
Newman,
was
involved
in
an
accident.
She
stepped
out
of
her
car
and
she
was
a
victim
of
a
hit
and
run
and
tragically
she
did
pass
away
and
I
know
the
the
family
is
incredibly
devastated
right
now,
there's
husband,
the
daughter,
the
family
and
their
friends.
I
know
our
counterparts
Merrick
Getz
in
Merit,
and
that
entire
chamber,
as
I've
lost.
A
They
are
incredibly
close
and
I
know
the
the
community
is
heartbroken
as
well,
and
so,
if,
if,
if
we
could,
please
all
stand
and
maybe
observe
a
moment
of
silence
for
Claire
and
her
family
in
the
entire
Community
that'd
be
great.
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
Everyone
and
you
know
for
the
people
in
Merit
and
everyone
who
knew
Claire
the
city
of
Vancouver
and
all
of
us
here.
Sander,
love
and
and
our
thoughts
are
with
you
right
now
so
clerk
may
we
please
have
a
roll
call
mayerson.
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
Any
comments
on
agenda
items
can
be
sent
to
council
using
the
web
Forum
on
the
city's
website.
The
link
to
that
form
will
be
tweeted
out
on
at
Van
city
clerk.
I
also
want
to
note
the
city
of
Vancouver's,
long-standing
commitment
to
equity,
diversity,
diversity
and
inclusion,
including
the
utmost
respect
for
all
genders.
I
remind
Council
that
when
addressing
speakers
and
the
city's
team
members,
we
will
avoid
using
gendered
honorifics
and
will
instead
refer
to
the
person
by
first
and
last
name
role
or
title.
Today.
A
We
have
three
administrative
items
in
camera,
motion,
adoption
of
minutes
and
matters
adopted
on
consent
for
reports,
two
referral
reports,
nine
bylaws,
four,
administrative
motions,
notice
of
council,
member
motions,
new
business
and
inquiries
and
other
matters.
The
plan
for
today
we're
going
to
break
up
noon
for
lunch,
followed
by
an
in-camera
meeting,
return
at
3
pm
and
complete
the
agenda
by
5
PM,
as
we
have
a
public
hearing
at
6
pm
in
camera,
council
is
required
to
meet
in
camera
later
this
week.
The
reasons
and
Authority
Under
The
Vancouver
Charter
are
listed
in
the
agenda.
A
Would
someone
like
to
move
a
motion
to
go
onto
camera
this
week?
Great,
thank
you
common
counselor,
Lisa,
dominato
and
seconder
counselor
Carr.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
those
in
favor
say
yay.
All
those
polls
they
may
create.
The
motion
carries
unanimously
minutes.
One
are
from
the
council
meeting
on
June
the
27th
2023..
Are
there
any
corrections
to
the
minutes?
A
We've
adoption
great?
Maybe
we
have
a
secondary
great
councilor,
all
those
in
favor
say
yay
all
those
upholstery
unanimously
minutes
two
are
from
the
council
meeting
following
the
standing
committee
on
policy
and
strategic
priorities,
meeting
of
June
the
28th
2023..
Are
there
any
corrections
to
the
minutes?
A
Would
someone
like
to
move
counselor
Clausen
seconded
by
counselor
Montague,
all
those
in
favor
say
yay,
all
those
posting
a
great
it
carry.
The
motion
carries
unanimously
minutes
three
are
from
the
public
hearing
on
June
the
29th
2023..
Are
there
any
corrections
to
the
minutes?
Would
someone
like
to
move
great
counselor,
Jill
seconded
by
counselor
Montague,
all
those
in
favor
say
yay
all
those
policy
and
a
great
motion
carries
unanimously
matters
adopted
on
consent.
Council
will
now
consider
matters
adopted
on
consent.
A
A
A
Council
May
adopt
the
recommendations
for
reports,
two
three
and
four
and
referral
reports,
one
and
two
on
consent,
and
we
have
okay.
So
does
any
member
wish
to
hold
the
items
for
debate
or
questions
to
team
members
and
we
have
counselor
Carr.
A
And
then
thank
you,
counselor
Montague.
A
Okay,
does
any
member
want
to
declare
a
conflict
of
interest
on
the
consent
items.
A
There
you
go
sorry
counselor
Montague.
Are
you
I.
E
Yeah
I
wish
to
declare
a
conflict
on
report
for
the
Maryland
Council
expenses
by
law,
for
the
reason
that
I
have
a
pending
claim
for
legal
reimbursement,
and
while
this
bylaw
will
be
forward-looking
and
not
retroactive,
an
abundance
of
caution,
I'm
gonna
recuse
on
it,
okay,.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
reports
or
report
number
two
and
we're
referral
reports
number
one
and
two
for
the
consent
agenda.
Would
someone
like
to
move
adoption
of
the
recommendations
before
Council
contained
in
the
reports?
Great,
thank
you.
Councilor
dominato
seconded
by
counselor,
Carr
I,
believe
all
those
in
favor
say
yay.
A
Those
posting
a
great
the
motion
carries
the
unanimously
okay,
so
the
following
have
been
approved
for
consent
or
sorry
on
consent.
Report
number
two
545
East
Cordova
Street
RH,
one
two
Amendment
to
the
grant
agreement
between
the
city
of
Vancouver
and
Lookout
Housing
Society,
our
and
health
Society.
A
Okay,
so
report
number
one
relationship-
protocol
agreement,
Squamish
nation
and
city
of
Vancouver-
has
been
held
to
hear
from
registered
registered
speakers.
Does
any
member
wish
to
declare
a
conflict
of
interest?
On
this
item
great.
A
We
have
team
member
team
members
from
the
city
manager's
office
here
to
provide
opening
remarks
and
a
verbal
presentation
as
well
as
to
answer
any
questions.
Council
might
have.
G
Good
morning,
Michelle
Bryant,
gravel
senior
director
indigenous
relations,
I
just
did
my
introduction.
In
my
language,
my
traditional
name
is
Bill
ham.
Now
and
I
am
from
the
Getwell
gyots
tribe
I
have
the
Crest.
I
am
from
the
community
of
Aqua
labs
and
I
am
from
the
Simpson
Nation.
Today
we
will
be
presenting
the
report
together
with
representatives
of
the
Squamish
Nation
I.
Would
I
would
like
to
introduce
Wilson
Williams,
who
will
be
speaking
on
behalf
of
Squamish
today
and
I
will
give
him
some
time.
First.
H
H
H
The
place
name
here
as
well
in
our
school
mission,
come
come
alive
and
acknowledged
who
I
am
and
where
I
come
from,
so
I
acknowledged,
Village
of
aslahan,
which
is
on
the
North
side
by
the
Sea
bus,
but
also
sanak
as
well,
where
my
great
great
grandfather
resided
as
well.
H
H
Was
written
in
the
pre-underp
era
at
a
time
where
there
was
no
acknowledgment
by
any
government
of
our
rights
and
title
to
the
lands
and
the
waters,
and
we
had
the
fight
for
what
we've
had,
but
now
with
undrip
and
the
adoption
of
dripa
and
all
the
hard
work
we
and
other
host
Nations
have
done
with
the
city
of
Vancouver.
The
work
that
reflects
Vancouver's
commitment
to
implementing
policies
in
the
line
with
the
principles
of
undrip
I,
truly
feel
our
strength
has
returned.
H
And
we
look
forward
to
walking,
together
with
the
city,
to
build
an
understanding
on
these
principles,
to
continue
the
work
of
reconciliation
together,
to
be
stronger
together
and
to
truly
lead,
as
the
city
of
reconciliation,
I,
look
forward
to
your
discussions
on
this
agreement
and
sincerely
hope
you
are
in
favor
of
going
forward
together
on
this
I'll.
Now
turn
it
back
over
to
Michelle
who
will
go
over
the
agreement
and
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
Mercy.
G
The
Squamish
strong
protocol
relationship
protocol
that
we
have
been
working
toward
with
the
Squamish
nation
and
it
it's.
The
city-
has
already
done
significant
work
in
this
area
and
I
just
want
to
bring
to
your
attention
back
in
2014
when
the
city
acknowledged
that
they
were
on
the
undeeded
territories
of
the
musqueam
Squamish
and
slay,
with
youth
people
and
in
2024
or
sorry
2014.
Also,
the
city
became
the
city
of
reconciliation
and
in
March
of
2021.
G
The
city
started,
embarking
on
the
work
with
the
task
force
of
the
undripped
strategy
and
in
October
of
2022
the
city
adopted
and
endorsed
the
cities
under
of
strategy.
So
a
lot
of
work
has
already
been
done,
and
these
protocol
agreements
and
this
one
with
Squamish,
is
really
to
set
a
foundation
to
ensure
that
that
relationship
will
continue
to
build
and
continue
to
maintain
its
strength
and
build
a
strength
over
time
and
we'll
well
Outlast.
G
Whatever
person
is
in
the
seats
from
either
government
and
given
the
undrived
strategy
that
has
already
been
adopted,
the
part
of
the
protocol
agreements
is
part
of
the
foundational
call
to
action
number
three,
that
states
to
develop
stronger
intergovernmental
coordination
and
communication
processes
and
explore
opportunities
to
develop,
renew
expand
or
strengthen
relationship,
protocol
agreements,
mous
or
moas,
and
protocol
agreements
with
musqueam,
Squamish
and
slay
with
tooth
Nations.
G
We
are
finally
entering
a
time
of
meaningful
reconciliation,
and
this
protocol
will
be
the
foundation
to
the
city's
relationship
with
squalmish
and
just
going
back
to
not
only
undrip,
but
the
the
trc's
calls
to
actions
and
the
relationships
that
the
city
has
built
over
time
with
musqueam
Squamish
and
Slayer
tooth
peoples.
This
protocol
and
the
city's
recognition
is
the
city's
recognition
of
squamous
title
rights
and
inherent
jurisdiction
within
its
territory.
G
This
is
the
beginning
of
practices
of
indigenous
inclusion
and
moves
away
from
historical
harms
inflicted
upon
indigenous
peoples
by
all
levels
of
government
and
in
in
your
package,
you
will
have
an
appendix
a
the
relationship
agreement
I've
outlined.
What
highlights
the
relationship
protocol
is
and
I
would
welcome
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
I
I'm,
just
a
couple
and
and
really
appreciate
the
huge
amount
of
work
and
the
significance
of
this
moment,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
it
and
I
know
this
is
mentioned
in
the
report
about
the
timing
that
brings
this
report
forward
to
us
now
and
then
the
work
that's
happening
with
the
musqueamentally
with
tooth
Nations
as
well.
G
Yeah,
thank
you.
Counselor
Boyle,
the
the
reasoning
for
bringing
the
Squamish
protocol
first
and
the
work
is
being
done.
Yes,
thank
you
for
that
on
the
musculum
and
slavery
tooth
agreements.
Squamish
is
celebrating,
as
as
my
friend
mentioned,
their
100
Year
amalgamation
celebrations
in
the
month
of
July,
and
it
was
quite
significant
for
them
to
sign
these
agreements
with
various
municipalities
which
they
have
with
the
District
of
North
Vancouver,
the
city
of
North
Vancouver
and
the
municipality
of
Squamish,
as
well
as
provincial
and
federal
government.
I
I
appreciate
that
and
my
other
question
it
is
and
and
again
I
know.
This
is
recognized
in
our
meetings
and
I'm
in
in
many
City
documents.
I
The
city
of
Vancouver
recognizes
if
we
sit
on
the
territory
of
the
musk,
William,
Squamish
and
slay
with
tooth
Nations.
Can
you
just
maybe
say
a
bit
about
the
the
recognition
of
this
being
the
territory
of
those
three
nations
and
and
and
not
others.
I
I
I
guess
I
just
know
that
we
have
a
speaker
later,
who
will
speak
from
a
different
nation
and
the
work
the
city
has
done
for
for
years
and
and
increasingly
in
recent
years,
has
been
in
partnership
with
musqueam
squamous
and
so
I
guess
I
was
just
looking
for
any
Clarity
staff
might
have
about
those
relationships,
in
particular
with
those
Nations.
G
So
historically,
the
city
of
Vancouver
has
recognized
the
three
nations
musqueam
Squamish
and
slavery
tooth
I
believe
it
was
based
on
the
distinctions-based
approach
that
the
province
also
follows
within
the
inherent
and
unseated
territories
of
the
nations
of
this
land,
who
were
here
prior
to
the
city
of
Vancouver,
and
it
has
all
historically
always
been
the
three
the
three
nations
in
doing
in
recognizing
their
territories.
H
Yes,
really
good
question
I
think
that
thank
you,
Michelle
yeah.
It
also
identifies
and
sort
of
reflects
on
the
rich
history
of
the
Nations
itself
and
connections
to
the
land
and
whether
we're
looking
at
it
from
a
scope
of
pre-colonization
or
how
are
how
our
families
and
our
on
our
in
our
Nations
have
thrived
and
sustained
our
peoples
off
the
land.
H
So
there's
that
deep,
rich
connection
that
you
know
when
I
introduced
myself,
I
acknowledge
my
great
great
grandfather
was
my
great-grandfather
as
well,
who
was
spearheading
how
we
integrate
to
Western
society
and
develop
the
amalgamation
which
we're
celebrating
this
month,
particularly
on
July
23rd,
but
I.
Think
it's
that
when
we
talk
about
the
shared
traditional
territories,
the
three
nations.
H
When
you
look
at
the
historically,
what
Slava
tooth
were
they
were
a
family
that
didn't
sign
the
amalgamation
with
the
Squamish
Nation,
so
they
formed
their
own,
which
you
know
in
the
government
terms
their
own
Nation
at
the
time
and
then
musque
and
we
always
lived
with
our
families
there
and
and
thrived
here
in
Vancouver
as
well.
So
I
I,
hope
that
provides
a
little
context
and
background.
But
good
question.
J
Yep
thanks
mayor
and
thanks
so
much
for
the
for
the
introduction.
My
question
is
really
very
similar
to
councilor
Boyles,
but
I
want
to
start
with
a
question
of
how
unique
is
this
protocol
I
mean
how
many
other
cities
have
proceeded
with
a
protocol
agreement
with
with
the
traditional
Nations
who
own
I
mean
who,
whose
lands?
When
we
sit
on.
G
We
did
a
preliminary
question
out
to
to
some
of
the
major
cities
in
Canada
and
we
have
come
to
how
many
there's
been
about
five
of
the
major
cities
across
Canada
that
we
were
able
to
find
on
on
a
short
search.
We
didn't
do
a
comprehensive
search,
but
that's
what
we've
been
able
to
find
out.
Okay,.
J
It
would
be
great
to
have
conversations
also
with
them
in
the
future
in
turn,
and
you
know
bringing
together
not
only
the
the
Nations
and
their
land
that
that
other
traditional
owners
of
the
land,
but
also
the
councils
I'd
love
to
see
that
conversations
about
the
journey
as
we
move
forward.
J
Okay,
second
question:
it's
often
asked
around
the
the
distinction
between
the
Nations,
whose
traditional
territories
Vancouver
is
on,
and
we
acknowledge
and
urban
indigenous
peoples
so
similar
to
councilor
Boyle's
question
around
a
speaker
that
we
may
have
that
might
raise
that.
What
is
our
plan
as
a
city
moving
forward
in
terms
of
working
in
a
distinct
way
with
Urban
indigenous
peoples
who
come
from
other
places.
G
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Counselor
Carr.
The
distinctions-based
approach
follows
the
protocols
of
recognizing
the
territories
on
these
lands
that
we
are
on,
which
is
musqueam,
Squamish
and
Slayer
tooth.
We
do
have
a
responsibility
as
a
city
to
engage
with
the
urban
indigenous
population
as
well
and
as
part
of
the
undrip
strategy.
G
There
will
be
a
series
of
engagements
with
the
urban
indigenous
peoples
of
the
city
to
find
out
basically
to
Workshop
the
strategy
to
see
what
areas
are
missing,
to
identify
areas
of
concern
to
the
urban
indigenous
population
as
well,
and
bring
those
back
to
the
intergovernmental
table
of
the
strategy
as
we're
developing
the
action
plan
and
one
of
the
objectives
that
we
hope
to
come
out
of
that
engagement
is
how
do
we
engage
meaningfully
with
that
population
of
Vancouver
as
well,
so
that
their
voices
are
heard
and.
G
Yeah
the
protocol
agreements
with
with
musculine
Squamish
and
Slayer
tooth
in
particular,
or
are
important
and
relevant
in
the
work
that
we're
doing
today
as
we
move
towards
meaningful
reconciliation
with
the
title
holders
of
the
land
it
like
I,
mentioned
before
it
really
establishes
that
foundation
and
from
that
Foundation.
G
If
we,
if
we're
talking
about
building
that
Foundation,
is
our
Solid
Ground
to
stand
on,
and
it's
always
our
our
North,
our
North
Star,
so
to
speak,
and
when
we
are
having
good
times
in
our
relationships,
we
tend
to
forget
about
these
protocols
and
sometimes
when
our
relationships
enter
into
difficult
conversations.
We
bring
ourselves
back
to
the
principles
in
these
relationships.
To
remember
that
our
our
agreement
is
to
work
together
and
to
build
stronger
communities
together.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
and
just
a
follow-up
I
think
in
terms
of
trying
to
Center
the
work
for
the
public
and
because
I
find
that
education
is
a
really
important
component
of
the
work
and
understanding.
Last
term
there
was
the
under
task
force.
It's
now
evolved
in
its
CMS
TV
intergovernmental
table.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
to
how
this
connects
into
the
work
that
the
group
is
doing
and
how
they're
focusing
their
efforts
like
how
sort
of
specific
actions
are
going
to
come
forward?
G
For
sure,
thank
you,
so
the
intergovernmental
table
is
the
table.
That
Council
has
asked
to
bring
forth
an
action
plan
to
council
which
will
come
to
Council
in
June
of
2024
So.
Currently,
the
three
Community
Nations
musculum,
Squamish
and
slave
truth,
as
well
as
city
of
Vancouver,
are
carrying
on
the
work
of
the
task
force
to
move
the
strategy
to
an
action
plan
that
is
ready
for
implementation.
G
So
the
the
intergovernmental
table
is
the
political,
elected
political
leadership
of
each
of
the
four
governments
they
meet
quarterly.
Underneath
that
are
the
senior
lead.
Senior
staff
leads
from
each
of
the
four
governments
and
they
meet
monthly
to
carry
out
the
work
of
the
intergovernmental
table
to
get
towards
our
action
plan.
That
staff
will
eventually
carry
out
if
it's.
If
it's
adopted
in
2024.
E
G
G
Understanding
there
are
79
calls
to
action
within
the
strategy
and
we're
developing
a
five-year
action
plan.
So
not
all
75
or
79
calls
to
action
will
be
in
the
strategy,
but
there
will
be
commented
on
commented
on
because
it,
the
intention
is
to
bring
five-year
iterations
of
the
action
plan
as
we
move
forward,
because
the
city
is
not
going
anywhere
and
the
nations
are
not
going
anywhere.
So
it's
really
important
to
make
sure
that
these
relationships
continue
to
build
momentum
and
strength
as
we
move
forward.
E
E
Do
you
know
why
there's
no
information
about
the
mstv
table
and
its
structure,
composition
and
kind
of
focus
on
the
city
website,
I
can't
find
it
and
I've
searched.
I
can
buy
Lots
on
the
under
it
from
last
term,
but
I
can't
find
anything
on
this.
One
yeah.
G
We
are
a
small
department
and
we
have
been
working
really
hard
to
get
the
18-month
Outlook
from
the
mstv
table
going
for
the
budgeting
process.
We
are
currently
working
on
updating
the
website,
together
with
CEC,
to
make
sure
that
is.
Has
current
information.
E
F
F
Moderator
we
please
stay
on
the
line,
we
will
reconnect
the
council
chamber
and
he
will
start
hearing
from
speaker
shortly.
Thank
you.
F
B
F
A
Robin,
it's
not
notice
noted
here.
Are
you
in
favor
or
opposed
to
the.
A
K
There,
okay
so
good
day,
I'm
presenting
about
this
relationship
agreement.
My
name
is
Robin
tavender
I
am
one
of
the
permanent
water
people
and
a
member
of
the
national
permanent.
We
are
a
nomadic
indigenous
people,
but
I'm
speaking
on
my
own
behalf
today,
because
we
haven't
really
had
time
to
think
about
all
this.
So
in
our
cosmology
we
live
in
the
light.
We
are
governed
by
our
ancient
oral
law,
which
is
our
Sovereign
and
our
inheritance.
K
It
is
our
most
precious
possession
that
we
are
governed
by
our
ancient
oral
law,
which
has
been
handed
down
to
us
since
time
immemorial,
and
we
see
on
page
five
of
the
report
that
the
city
is
going
to
recognize
certain
rights
and
titles
and
inherent
jurisdiction.
So
my
concern
is
that
the
city
is
not
considering
the
rights
of
all
indigenous
peoples.
Undrip
article
43
says
that
this
is
for
indigenous
peoples
of
the
world.
K
Not
indigenous
peoples
have
a
political
subdivision
or
political
entity,
even
though
the
boots
on
the
ground
reality
is
that
that's
who's
going
to
administer
all
of
these
rights.
So
as
for
unseated
territory
I've.
Given
you
a
report
that
I
submitted
on
behalf
of
the
nation
when
you
were
considering
the
unrip
strategy
and
the
notion
of
traditional
territory
or
hereditary
property,
is
eerily
similar
to
that
given
by
Gaius
in
his
Institutes
of
Roman
law,
and
it's
entirely
possible
that
other
peoples
evolved
a
very
similar
notion
of
territorial
property,
but
it's
not
Universal.
K
Some
indigenous
peoples,
like
us
nomadic
peoples,
have
a
very
different
relationship
to
time
and
space.
The
nation's
view,
which
we've
expressed
publicly
enhancerd,
is
that
we
have
inherent
rights
in
the
place
we
live
and
have
always
lived,
which
we
call
the
light.
We
carry
our
rights
with
us
in
our
souls:
they're,
not
a
pertinent
to
lands
or
Waters
or
air.
So
where
does
this
requirement
procession
come
from?
We
just
don't
understand
that
we'd
never
had
a
landlord.
You
know
we.
We
don't
understand
that.
There's
anyone
who's
a
hereditary
landlord
over
us.
K
K
I
guess
I
would
close
by
quoting
from
the
Preamble
of
undrip,
which
says
recognizing
the
urgent
need
to
respect
and
promote
the
inherent
rights
of
indigenous
peoples
which
derive
from
their
political,
economic
and
social
structures
and
from
their
culture,
spiritual
Traditions
histories
and
philosophies,
especially
their
rights
to
their
lands,
territories
and
resources.
So
it's
not
just
the
Canadian
positive
law
test
of
historical
possession
at
the
time
of
sovereignty
is
articulated
in
delkamuk.
K
There
is
a
much
broader
recognition
and
undrip
of
Rights
deriving
from
political,
economic,
social
structures
and
especially
philosophy
and
our
philosophy
of
law
is
very
different,
so
we
just
wanted
or
I
just
wanted
to,
because
it's
not
on
behalf
of
the
nation
put
that
out
there
that
we
may
not
have
all
the
pieces
on
the
table
and
that
we're
not
really
considering
indigenous
peoples
like
standing
water
and
especially
nomadic
peoples
who
may
not
have
ever
had
a
fixed
settlement.
So
thank
you
for
listening,
but
again
generally
supportive,
because
it's
always
good
to
build
relationships.
A
A
A
There
is
counselor
Boyle.
I
Thanks
I'll
be
really
brief,
but
again
just
want
to
recognize
the
significance
of
this
moment
and
the
and
the
huge
amount
of
work
that's
gone
in
from
from
the
Squamish
nation
and
from
staff
at
the
city
of
Vancouver
to
to
to
put
the
pedal
to
the
metal
a
little
bit
and
and
make
sure
that
we
did
this
well
and
quickly
in
time
for
the
100
Year
amalgamation
ceremony,
which
is
a
a
huge
moment
and
an
honor
to
get
to
be
part
of
it
in
in
this
way,
and
to
to
lift
up
the
Squamish
Nation.
I
In
this
way
and
and
I
know,
it
leads
to
a
lot
of
important
work
that
Council
has
been
engaged
in
with
Squamish
and
musque
women's
around
implementing
undrip
and
so
look
forward
to
continuing
that
work
rooted
in
this
protocol
and
our
shared
history
and
and
the
the
and
the
existence
of
the
Squamish
Nation
on
this
land
since
time
immemorial,
in
the
way
that
that
relationship
to
the
land
that
we
sit
on
should
inform
our
future
together.
So
thank
you.
E
Good
morning,
I
want
to
thank
Wilson
for
being
here
this
morning
and
also
Michelle
and
Lindsay
for
their
work
and
and
the
task
force
in
general.
It's
been
a
pleasure
to
attend
this
term.
I
have
the
privilege
of
sitting
on
this
for
the
first
time
and
the
words
that
Wilson.
When
you
spoken,
you
said
a
sort
of
approaching
that
open-minded,
an
open
heart
I
definitely
feel
that
Spirit
around
the
table
and
it's
a
tremendous
learning
opportunity
to
be
part
of
that.
E
Hence
the
reason
I
asked
my
question
around
sharing
some
of
the
information
with
the
public,
because
I
do
think
a
big
part
of
reconciliation
is
also
Building,
Bridges
and
understanding,
and
when
we
don't
share
the
information
that
sometimes
when
we
fall
down
or
stub
our
toes,
because
people
are
not
they're,
not
aware
of
what's
happening,
and
then
they
see
outcomes,
but
they
don't
understand
sort
of
the
work
that's
going
into
the
process
to
get
there.
So
that's
the
one
thing
I
wanted
to
highlight,
but
I
am
really
grateful
to
see
this.
E
It's
a
is
sort
of
a
qualitative
document
in
terms
of
the
how
we
work
together
in
a
lot
of
the
what
happens
outside
of
it,
but
it
certainly
I
think
exhibits
the
philosophy
and
the
commitment
that
the
parties
have
and
particularly
I,
think
the
city
is
really
committed
to
this
work
and
so
I
hope
that
that's
clearly
shown
and
demonstrated
this
morning
to
the
Squamish
and
I
look
forward
also
to
having
similar
protocol
agreements
executed
with
both
with
our
other
nations,
also
with
muskrum
and
slavery
tooth.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
yeah.
Thank
you,
welcome
for
being
here
to
to
present
to
us
and
thank
you
to
the
Squamish
Nation
for
the
willingness
to
engage
with
us
to
achieve
this
Squamish
protocol.
J
I
I,
it's
a
real
Landmark.
It's
a
really.
You
know,
in
my
mind,
very,
very
major
step
forward
for
the
city
I've
been
on
Council
when
we
had
the
walk
for
reconciliation
when
we
had
the
year
for
reconciliation,
we
became
a
city
of
reconciliation,
but
this
is
the
kind
of
as,
as
stated,
the
solid
ground.
J
This
is
the
I
think
the
the
building
block
for
a
very
different
kind
of
relationship,
a
very
respectful
and
I
think
exciting,
meaningful
and
productive
relationship,
and
so
it
will
set
the
ground
for
other
relationships
and
I
love
the
idea
that
it's
our
North
Star,
it's
it's
where
we
know
we're
headed
and
the
values
imbued
are
the
values
that
are
are
explicitly
stated
in
the
agreement.
I
think
are
the
strong
values
that
make
our
city
better
that
make
the
relationships
we
have
better.
So
thank
you.
Everyone
for
the
work
staff,
Squamish
Nation.
L
Thanks
mayor
and
I,
think
you're
gonna
hear
an
echo
of
thanks
and
congratulations
to
Squamish
Nation
to
Wilson
and
Arthur,
who
are
here
who
spoke,
but
also
to
our
staff
Michelle,
who
gave
us
very
in-depth
briefings
on
the
protocol
to
understand
it
so
I've
reached
of
your
work
and
support
and
help
and
again
just
to
Echo.
L
L
Having
that
strength,
feeling
that
strength
and
being
in
a
position
of
strength
and
I
think
that
it
reflects
not
only
a
new
relationship
and
reconciliation,
but
the
opportunity
to
lift
people
up
to
lift
communities
up
and
I
think
that's
an
opportunity
we
have
with
this
protocol
and
so
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
together
with
Squamish
nation
in
the
city
and
again,
congratulations.
M
Thanks
mayor
yeah
I
also
like
to
I
call
what
my
colleagues
are
about
the
importance
of
this.
This
agreement.
Also
thanks
for
all
the
team
effort
from
the
foundation
and
for
our
city
of
Vancouver
staff
team.
You
know
I
think
this
agreement
once
again
demonstrate
our
commitment
to
reconciliation
and
respect
for
the
rest
on
the
counter
of
Squamish
Nation.
M
It
could
provide
a
framework
and
foundation
for
building
a
positive
and
collaborative
relationship
moving
forward
and
also
I,
think
it
says
a
very
positive
example:
they
could
serve
as
a
model
for
other
indigenous
communities
and
municipalities,
highlighting
the
importance
of
collaboration,
respects
and
also
recognizing
the
indigenous
rights
yeah.
So
we
start
I'm
going
to
100
fully
support
this
agreement.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
I'll
keep
my
comments
very
brief
because
do
I
have
to
see
the
chair
can
I.
Please
see
the
chair
to
counselor
Clausen
awesome.
Thank
you
very
much.
I'll!
Keep
it
brief,
because
a
lot
of
it's
already
been
said:
I,
just
love
the
fact
that
Vancouver
is
a
city
of
reconciliation
and
the
proofs
in
the
pudding,
and
we
continue
to
drive
forward.
A
I
really
do
want
to
thank
you
know,
Lindsay
Michelle,
for
all
the
hard
work
that
you
and
your
entire
team
has
done,
and
I
want
to
thank
our
friend,
councilor
Wilson
I.
Just
call
you
Wilson
for
your
friendship
and
the
love
and
care
that
you
show
the
land
Terror
and
allowing
us
to
you
know
be
part
of
this
process
and
so
make
no
mistake
about
it.
A
There's
still
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done,
but
I
think
this
is
a
great
another,
great
step
forward
into
achieving
true
and
meaningful
reconciliation.
So
thank
you
right,
seeing
no
one
else
on
the
Queue.
Can
we
please
put
this
to
a
vote.
A
Like
business
great,
okay,
so
the
next
item
in
the
order
by
the
way,
congrats
the
next
item
in
the
order
of
the
agenda
held
by
that's
held,
is
report.
Number
three,
which
is
titled.
A
D
Thanks
Mar
I
just
have
I,
think
two
questions
to
start
and
then
we'll
we'll
go
from
there
I
see
is.
This
is
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
That's
capped
at
eight
thousand
dollars
per
home.
That's
correct,
with
a
goal
of
25
to
30
homes
being
potentially
retrofitted.
So
that's
200
to
240,
000
where's,
the
60
to
100
000
is
that
Administration
costs
or
what.
N
N
Is
a
high
contact
program?
There
are
individuals
trained
by
the
Vancouver
Heritage
Foundation
that
visit
the
homeowner
and
assist
and
support
the
home
in
undertaking
the
retrofits.
So
it
is
a
very
high
touch
program.
Okay,.
D
I
was
I,
did
a
quick
search.
Online
I
was
able
to
find
pretty
quickly
about
20
homes
that
are
currently
for
sale
in
Vancouver.
That
would
I
believe
fit
the
categories
and
and
criteria
listed,
the
single
family
built
before
1940
or
Heritage
designation
in
Vancouver.
Of
course,
heated
in
hot
water
through
natural
gas
photos
show
gas
cooktops
that
sort
of
thing
all
of
them
were
listed
between
two
and
ten
million
dollars.
N
O
Much
just
we
don't
have
a
representation
from
the
Heritage
Foundation
here
today,
but
I
know.
This
is
a
a
program
that
they
they
support.
We've
seen
the
funding
for
this
been
reduced
over
recent
years
is.
Can
you
explain
why
now.
N
O
By
changing
means
changing
needs
of
housing.
Is
this
just
more
we're
going
to
try
and
prioritize
what
over
over
this
great.
N
O
Just
with
regards
to
the
energy
retrofit
funding
the
council
approved
earlier,
where
do
we
typically?
What
kind
of
programs
or
similar
programs
are
are?
Is
some
of
that
funding
being
spent.
O
So,
just
in
the
in
the
recommendation,
a
it
just
says,
the
source
of
the
funding
of
the
20
yeah
for
non-city
buildings
was
approved
by
Council
and
our
capital
budget,
so
it
just
it
needs
some
examples.
P
You
know:
we've
set
aside
a
a
fair
amount
of
that
money
in
response
to
the
Earth
Day
motion
to
look
at
providing
incentives
and
owner
supports
the
coaching,
the
decision-making
tools
for
people
who
aren't
experts
in
this
space,
so
we've
Reserve
funding
for
that
last
year,
Council
approved
some
first
of
their
kind
in
Canada
regulations
for
large
existing
commercial
buildings
and
the
building
owners
and
Managers
Association
were
very
supportive
of
that
they
felt
it
was
really
good
regulatory
development,
but
one
part
of
what
brought
them
on
board
was
our
shared
recognition
that
smaller
commercial
building
owners
would
need
supports.
P
So
we're
looking
at
developing
some
tools
where
there
are
gaps
in
utility
and
provincial
supports
for
those
commercial
buildings
so
again
things
to
help
them
recommission
their
buildings.
You
know
they
buildings,
it's
like
a
tune-up.
You
know
building
tune-up
program,
that's
not
available
to
some
of
the
smaller
commercial
buildings.
That
would
be
another
example.
We
continue
to
support
heat
pump
water
heaters
in
single-family
homes.
As
you
know,
we
just
launched
the
residential
apartment
retrofit
accelerator
program.
P
P
Is
some
in
the
multi-family
space?
There
are
higher
levels
so
actually
they're
they
they
do
differentiate.
There's
income
threshold
tests
where
lower
income
homeowners
can
get
higher
levels
of
support
in
coaching.
That's
both
in
the
multi-family
space,
as
well
as
in
the
single-family
home
space.
O
And
this
is
just
more
of
a
values
question:
why
would
we,
just
as
a
city
want
to
support
retrofitting
these
Heritage
homes?
Well,.
P
You
know
to
get
to
the
objectives
that
councils
assigned
us:
we
we
do
need
to
bring
in
requirements
and
regulations.
We
need
to
set
new
expectations.
The
challenges
with
existing
buildings,
houses
multi-family
whatever
for
some
of
those
buildings,
It's
relatively
easy
to
meet
a
regulatory
threshold.
Other
buildings
it's
going
to
be
very
challenging,
and
so
that
disparity
in
impact
of
the
potential
regulations
is
a
real
challenge
in
bringing
those
forward
successfully.
O
A
Q
Thanks
mayor,
so
just
a
few
questions
about
the
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I
saw
that
it
states
in
the
report
that
currently
this
program
is
open
to
homes
of
any
value
and
individuals
of
any
wealth
level.
So
will
that
still
be
in
place
for
this
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Q
N
Q
But
but
as
it
stands
right
now,
it
will
not
be
means
tested
that
is
correct.
Okay,
so
you
could
have
a
10
million
dollar
Heritage
home
and
make
300
000
a
year
and
you'll
get
a
rebate
for
your
induction
cooktop
that
that
is
correct
as
it
currently
stands.
Okay,
can
you
explain
to
me
the
gift
card
aspect?
Oh.
N
Of
course
yeah,
so
one
thing
that's
important
for
us
is
to
understand
the
energy
use
of
the
home
after
the
renovations
have
been
completed,
and
so
we've
provided
a
modest
gift
card
in
exchange
after
the
renovations
are
completed.
If
the
homeowner
shares
two
years
of
energy
data
with
us
so
provides
their
bills.
Q
Would
the
homeowners
covered
by
this
potential
Grant
if
we
approve
it
also
be
eligible
for
provincial
and
federal
grants
for
heat
pumps
and
and
the
like?
The.
N
Short
answer
is
yes,
there
are
some
upgrades,
for
instance,
installing
storm
windows
that
aren't
covered
by
the
provincial
or
federal
grants.
So
there
are
some
sort
of
older
home
specific
pieces
that
aren't
covered,
but
the
pieces
that
are
covered
like
heat
pumps,
yes,
you're,
correct,
counselor,.
Q
Can
you
maybe
explain
what
we're
doing
for
people
who
live
in
condos
homeowners
who
have
permission
to
install
a
heat
pump,
for
example,
but
there's
a
huge
expense
attached
to
that
and
they're
living
in,
say
a
glass
walled,
condo
downtown
it's
Southwest
facing
it's.
You
know
above
30
degrees
of
the
summer.
What
incentives
does
the
city
have
for
those
homeowners
I
want
to
turn
that
over
to
Sean
Pander.
P
Great
Sean
Pander
green
building
manager
with
the
city
we
currently
don't
have
an
offering
available.
There
are
modest
offerings
available
through
BC
Hydro
in
the
province,
but
in
response
to
the
Earth
Day
motion,
we've
been
collaborating
with
them
and
there's
this
recognition
that
there's
an
interface
between
you
know:
vulnerability
to
extreme
heat
and
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions
through
the
introduction
to
heat
pumps.
So
we're
looking
to
bring
forward
a
report
on
the
city's
role
again.
P
We're
anticipating
both
hydro
and
Province,
are
going
to
significantly
up
their
incentive,
supports
and
and
and
decision-making
support
tools,
but
there
are
going
to
be
gaps
in
what
they
bring
forward,
so
we're
working
very
closely
with
them
and
we'll
be
bringing
a
report
back
in
December
on
this.
This
is
what
we
anticipate
to
be
the
program
offering
that's
available
across
the
province,
and
here
are
the
gaps
and
here's
the
city's
role
in
in
in
addressing
those
gaps.
Q
P
For
individual
heat
pumps
like
for
an
individual
owner
wanting,
you
know,
oh
I
personally
want
to
install
one.
There
are
none
at
the
moment
if
the
building
at
a
central
system
level
or
if
the
entire
building
wants
individual
heat
pumps
for
every
unit.
There
are
incentives.
The
value
of
those
incentives
is
very
opaque
and
and
we're
still
trying
to
unpack.
P
How
much
is
that
worth
versus
the
value
or
the
cost
of
doing
the
right
retrofit,
and
that
will
inform
some
of
the
recommendations
if
those
incentives
aren't
topped
up,
then
that
might
form
part
of
the
recommendation
we
bring
forward
to,
but
but
we're
we're
still
trying
to
again.
They
don't
publish
the
formula
their
funding
formula
for
that
the
amount
of
support
that's
offered.
Okay,.
A
E
Yeah,
thank
you
and
thanks
for
the
report,
I
have
several
questions
I'm
going
to
fire
through
them.
Was
there
any
discussion
so
far
if
the
Heritage
Foundation
is
interested
in
moving
towards
a
multi-family
program
of
moving
that
forward
now,
as
opposed
to
continuing
to
support
single
family,
the.
N
E
If
Council
had
to
approve
non-approval,
Grant
or
amend,
if
we
did
not
approve
this
grant,
for
example,
it
conceivably
conversations
on
the
multi-family
option
with
Heritage
Foundation
could
continue,
certainly
okay
and
then
the
reference
in
the
report
where
it
shows
that
future
phases
of
the
program
could
be
considered
through
the
city's
Equity
framework
and
consider
income
testing.
How
do
you
square
Equity
if
somebody's
got
a
home
councilor
Meisner
mentioned,
is
worth
10
million
dollars,
but
perhaps
they
don't
report
a
lot
of
income.
So,
yes,.
N
N
N
E
Last
question
in
terms
of
the
I
seem
to
recall
and
I
wasn't
sure
if
this
one,
so
maybe
you
can,
let
me
know
if
you
look
at
the
there
seems
to
be
a
gap
in
the
granting
years,
there's
several
years
that
were
missed
and
I
recall
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
it
was
really
to
this
report.
Maybe
you
can,
let
me
know
partly.
It
was
because
of
the
level
of
identifying
a
suitable
number
of
homes.
E
N
N
The
level
of
interest,
so
the
level
of
homes
that
applied
to
participate,
was
low
enough,
that
the
funding
lasted
that
period
of
time.
M
Thanks
mayor,
so
I
got
a
few
questions
here.
First
question
I
think
you
mentioned
regarding
the
mint
testing
using
the
value
of
home.
Yes,
but
it
could
be
misleading,
sometimes
because
an
owner
purchased
the
home
100
years
ago.
It's
where
you
know
so.
My
question
is
how
feasible,
if
we
use
the
the
income
instead
of
value
of
the
home,
both.
N
Income
and
home
value
are
used
in
different
provinces,
so
we
could
certainly
have
a
dialogue
with
Pei,
for
instance,
on
home
value
versus
the
province
of
BC
uses
income
reported
income,
so
both
are
options
and
we
could
use
either
a
combination
of
the
two
as
some
provinces
do
or
choosing
one
or
the
other.
So
we
have
options.
M
Thank
you.
So
the
other
question
is
so
I
saw
the
the
grant
for
the
heat
pump
reduced
from
six
thousand
to
one
thousand.
Yes,
what
is
the
rationale
behind
great.
M
Can
say:
they're
the
you
know:
the
affordability
for
the
applicants,
yeah
great.
N
Question
counselor,
so
one
of
the
things
that
has
changed
and
with
this
iteration
is
the
federal
government
is
providing
five
thousand
dollars
for
a
heat
pump,
as
well
as
a
low
interest
loan
or
no
interest
loan.
Sorry,
so
that's
the
changes,
the
federal
government's
providing
money
and
a
no
interest
loan.
N
Question
so
we
have
a
follow-up
visit
after
the
renovations
are
completed
where
a
representative
from
Natural
Resources,
Canada
visits
the
home,
does
an
air
leakage
test
and
verifies
the
energy
use
reduction,
and
then
we
also
get
the
energy
bills
to
be
able
to
see
how
much
energy
use
and
carbon
pollution
has
been
reduced.
Do.
M
We
do
that
for
every
single
applicant,
yes,
correct,
Council,
okay!
So
what
happened?
If
the
the
outcome
is
not
as
significant
as
would
we
expect,
we.
N
N
The
applicant
has
completed
the
underlying
upgrade,
so
a
heat
pump
improving
the
windows.
There
is
no
consequence
for
the
applicant
now.
If
the
applicant
doesn't
undertake
the
window
upgrade
or
doesn't
undertake
the
heat
pump,
then
they
wouldn't
receive
the
incentive.
M
N
Question
so
we've
set
up
the
program
to
be
run
by
the
Vancouver
Heritage
Foundation
as
a
third
party
to
ensure
that
accountability
and
layered
onto
that
we
use
the
federal
government's
inner
guide
program
which
is
set
up
for
third-party
verification.
So
we're
ensure
that
there's
both
accountability
and
Clarity
in
the
program.
Okay,.
M
You
know
I'm
going
to
throw
one
more
last
question,
so
you
know
from
your
perspective
the
juice
did
you
see?
Any
other
building
areas
can
use
the
money,
generate
more
impact
on
environment
other
than
just
focusing
on
this
existing
documents.
Yeah
turn.
P
It's
a
good
question.
Unfortunately,
it's
complicated
these
older
homes
are
some
of
the
highest
emitters.
So
you
know
when
you
look
at
where
the
big
emissions
come
and
the
the
value
of
supporting
action,
if
your
only
metric
is
greenhouse
gas
reductions
and
you're,
not
worried
about
comfort
and
resilience
and
you're,
not
worried
about
income,
testing
and
Equity.
This
is
a
big
program.
We,
we
aren't,
you
know
picking
one
over
another.
P
You
know
we
are
looking
to
shift
more
and
more
of
our
supports
into
the
multi-family
space
and
into
supports
where
we've
introduced,
regulations
and
and
part
of
the
success
of
those
regulations
is
supporting
owners.
That's
we're
shifting
in
that
direction,
but
there's
value
again
incentives.
We
have
a
philosophy
that
incentives
lead
to
something
more
robust,
a
more
enduring
change.
P
You
can't
just
incense
something
and
and
wait
expect
the
action
or
assume
the
action
will
continue
unless
something
else
changes
so
again
for
us,
it's
important
as
we
work
on
introducing
regulations
that
we
address
things
for
homeowners
that
might
go
hold
it.
This
is
really
going
to
be
very
hard
for
me,
and
so
we
want
to
create
the
opportunity
for
those
owners
to
say
Hey.
You
know
we've
been
supporting
you
for
eight
years
to
upgrade
your
home.
It's
now
time
to
to
set
a
new
expectation.
Okay,.
M
P
I
Thanks
I
I
I'm,
really
appreciating
this
conversation.
Having
asked
for
many
years
about
the
equity
aspects
of
this
program,
I'm
curious
to
to
the
question
counselor
Kirby
young,
asked
and
I
think
you
mentioned
earlier
too,
that
the
Heritage
Foundation
is
looking
to
has
has
said
that
they're
interested
in
multi-family
what
what
tools
exist
for
us
to
say
great.
We
appreciate
your
interest.
That's
where
we're
going.
You
know
we're
going
to
require
that
I
mean
we're,
giving
a
significant
amount
of
funds
to
this.
I
If
they've
said
a
number
of
times,
they're
interested
in
how
do
we
require
that
shift.
N
The
program
as
is
designed
today,
it
would
be
very
simple
to
shift
it
to
include
pre-1940
buildings
that
are
three
stories
or
fewer
and
so
sort
of
lower
rise
buildings.
And
there
could
be
an
amendment
to
the
report
asking
the
program
or
directing
the
program
to
focus
on
three
stories
and
under
that
would
be
a
relatively
simple
change
to
focus
on
low-rise
multi-family.
N
Three
stories
is
the
limit
for
the
software
and
the
there's:
a
Code
building
code
distinction.
When
you
go
above
three
stories,
it
changes
from
an
area
called
part,
nine
to
part
three
and
the
software
that
we
use
from
the
federal
government
works
for
buildings
up
to
and
including
three
stories.
The
good
news
is:
there's
a
lot
of
pre-1940
multi-family
three
stories
and
under
buildings.
Okay,.
I
And
I
know
we
have
been
looking
to
bring
in
carbon
limits
for
existing
detached
homes,
and
my
understanding
is
have
been
looking
at
the
largest
detached
homes
first
and
then
moving
from
there
are
there
lessons
that
we're
learning
in
this
pilot
that
will
help
inform
that
work
and
or
kind
of
reduce
the
resistance
or
or
nervousness
about
bringing
those
limits
in
later
great.
N
Question
yeah
certainly
we're
learning
lessons
we're
learning
through
this
program,
the
challenges
and
the
opportunities
that
exist
in
pre-1940s
homes
and
it
aids
Us
in
the
developing
the
development
of
Regulation.
Yes,.
I
Could
we
still
be
getting
those
same
lessons
well
implementing
an
income
or
some
kind
of
means,
tested
measure.
I
Okay,
great
and
that
again
I'm
just
kind
of
thinking
this
through
as
I
hear
other
questions,
but
would
staff's
recommendation
be
that
we
not
approve
the
grants
right
now
and
direct
it
back
to
to
be
looking
at
means,
testing
and
multi-family,
or
what's
the
best
approach.
P
I,
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
an
either
or
this
program
is
ready
to
roll
it's
within
the
budget
and
and
we
could
offer
this
program
and
get
direction
to
develop.
Sorry
I
can
maybe
conflating
a
multi-family
Heritage
program
and
a
means
tested
one.
So
we
could
offer
this
one
and
develop
a
means
tested
one,
but
as
Chris
indicated,
we
could
just
probably
amend
this
quite
quickly
as
it
is
to
do
it
as
the
program
has
designed,
except
have
a
means
test
for
eligibility
and.
I
Then
also
give
direction
to
to
work
on
a
multi-family
program
that.
C
Yeah
thanks-
and
these
are
more
I,
think
straight
ahead
kind
of
questions
and
appreciate
all
the
answers
and
questions
so
far.
This
is
obviously
a
a
drop
from
2021's
Grant
and
you
mentioned
there's
a
wait
list.
What's
what's
the
extent
of
the
wait
list,
how
many
people
are
hammering
for
this
grant.
N
Great
question
the
last
I
checked:
there
was
12
homes
on
the
wait
list,
and
so
there
there
is.
N
What
we've
found
historically,
if
you
look
at
sort
of
average
uptake
a
little
less
than
one
a
month,
is
the
sort
of
intake
into
the
program.
N
C
C
N
We
we
do,
and
if
you're
the
embodied
carbon
impact
of
retrofit
is,
is
going
to
be
much
lower
in
these
cases.
These
are
designed
to
be
fairly
low,
low
time
retrofit.
So,
for
instance,
a
heat
pump
can
be
put
in
in
just
a
day.
It
requires
almost
no
modification
of
the
building
envelope.
Storm
windows
can
be
added
all
those
are
very
low.
Carbon
low
waste
retrofits,
so
they're
going
to
be
much
lower
than,
for
instance,
taking
the
home
down
and
building
a.
C
New
single
family,
home,
so
I
guess-
and
this
is
the
culmination
of
this
and
where
I'm
going
with
all
this
is,
is
how
I
appreciate
the
Heritage
Foundation
is
doing
great
work
in
this
space.
But
how
do
we
better
integrate
this
with
our
own
permitting
system
and
there's
very
little
reference
to
it
on
on
the
websites?
If
I
Google
building
permit
having
gone
through
building
permits
myself?
N
Question
so
one
thing
we
have
done
is
provide
information
about
the
program
upon
application
for
a
building
permit.
We
did
do
that
for
a
couple
of
iterations
of
the
program.
We
don't
do
it
currently
separately.
Some
of
the
upgrades
within
the
program
like
adding
storm
windows
do
not
require
a
permit
sure.
C
N
We
certainly
could
restart
that
it
was
ended
due
to
challenges
and
staff
wanting
to
sort
of
focus
in
providing
a
limited
amount
of
information.
The
information
was
focused
on
the
permit
application,
as
opposed
to
ancillary
pieces.
So
we
did
stop
providing
the
Flyers
about
the
program
information
about
the
program,
but
we
could
restart
that.
Certainly.
C
I
would
say,
given
the
limited
amount
in
this
grant,
it
probably
would
not.
It
would
just
create
a
larger
waiting
list,
but
okay
I
appreciate
it
thanks.
Chris
thank.
J
Thank
you
thanks
for
the
report,
too.
First
of
all,
one
of
my
questions
was
just
asked
by
councilor
Frye
in
terms
of
it
embodied
emissions.
It's
something
that
I
think
Metro
Vancouver
is
is
looking
at
as
well,
so
it'd
be
interesting
to
get
in
future
reports.
You
know
some
sense
of
how
important
or
not,
but
anyway,
the
embodied
missions
are.
J
My
next
question
always
around
the
6300
tons
for
the
program
to
date.
What
percentage
of
our
overall
ghgs
is
that
around
that.
P
Unfortunately,
I
don't
have
that
right
at
my
fingertips.
If
I
am
correct,
I
think
our
buildings,
emissions
total
is
in
the
600
000
ton
range,
so
this
would
only
be
about
one
percent
reduction
in
those
emissions.
Again,
when
we
look
at
emission
reductions,
you
know
we,
the
the
the
value
of
this
program
is
not
in
its
scale,
because
it's
it
it.
The
value
is
in
developing
regulations
having
provided
support
and
offering
help
to
those
that
are
going
to
be
disproportionately
impacted
by
the
the
challenge
of
meeting
the
requirement.
J
And-
and
that
has
been
a
great
work
that
you've
been
doing
Sean,
can
you,
while
you're
at
the
mic,
elaborate
a
bit
on
the
fact
that
there
is
utility
here
in
the
program
in
terms
of
Lessons
Learned?
So
how
are
we
sharing
the
information
about
what
works
better
yeah,
the
Lessons
Learned?
In
doing
these
retrofits
song.
P
Well,
as
Chris
indicated
that
it
it
in
all
of
our
programs,
where
we're
piloting
and
and
in
greater
and
greater
cases
where
we
do
a
niche
pilot,
there
is
a
an
expectation
of
sharing
information
back
and
whether
that's
utility
usage
in
many
of
our
other
programs.
We
require
a
case
study
to
be
developed,
but
regardless
of
that
working
with
the
program,
the
the
delivery
agents
and,
in
this
case,
Vancouver
Heritage
Foundation
again,
we
start
to
find
the
types
of
changes.
P
Owners
are
interested
in
pursuing
what
the
challenges
were,
what
they've
applied
for
funding,
and
so
we
take
that
into
account.
Recognizing
oh
we're
trying
to
develop
a
regulation
which
is
in
order
to
be
effective,
to
implement
and
and
permit
you
know,
kind
of
is
one
size
fits
all,
but
then
it
gives
us
information
on.
Oh
some
homes
will
have
challenges.
Will
we
need
to
create
exemptions
where
we
need
to
create
a
means
test?
That
sort
of
information
Nation
great.
J
On
the
utility
use,
I
mean
the
use
of
the
of
the
energy.
Are
we
as
a
city
amalgamating
some
of
that
emission
that
information
around
how
much
extra
energy
is
taking
in
terms
of
the
grid,
the
supply
of
electricity,
so
that
we
can
inform
Hydro
that
we
can
get
back
to
BC
Hydro
with
look
with
you
know
retrofitting
these
buildings
is
going
to
be
an
estimation
of
x
amount
of
increase
in
the
need
for
electricity,
green
electricity,
yeah.
P
More
our
work
with
BC
Hydro
is
not
program
specific,
but
it
is
looking
at
the
sort
of
aggregated
uptake
of
voluntary
as
well
as
regulatory
action.
We
don't
usually
provide
information
on
total
energy
demand
because
Hydro
you
know
that
grows
slowly
and
hydro
plans
that,
over
you
know
a
decade.
What
we're
working
with
Hydro
on
is
updating
our
models
to
show
the
PQ
use
a
lot
of
the
infrastructure
in
the
city,
the
substations
and
the
wires
that
come
to
the
city
aren't
about
how
much
energy
you
deliver
in
a
an
entire
year.
P
It's
about
oh
on
the
coldest
day
in
the
evening.
We
we
size
the
infrastructure
for
that.
So
we
are
actively
updating
our
models.
Around
densification
EV
adoption,
electrification
of
existing
buildings,
electrification
of
new
buildings,
to
show
them
how
the
growth
in
localized
Demand
by
different
parts
of
the
city,
how
quickly
it
will
grow,
and
they
can
compare
that
to
their
historic
assumptions
and
adjust
how
they
deploy
upgrades
to
the
grid.
J
Okay,
final
question:
there's
a
move:
that's
looking
at
sort
of
multi-family
dwellings
and
both
yeah
in
terms
of
brief
sort
of
prioritization,
of
which
buildings
get
which
areas-
and
this
is
Heritage
that
we're
talking
about
so
those
must
be
concentrated
in
certain
areas
of
the
city.
Right,
so
are
we
looking
at
there's,
not
I,
can't
think
of
that
many
three-story,
older
Heritage,
valued
apartment
buildings.
I
think
you
said
that
there
were
quite
a
few
but
they're
yeah,
where,
where
are
they
in
the
city?
Leave
that.
N
Thanks
very
much
counselor
yeah,
so
the
programs
designed
for
pre-1940s
that
includes
Heritage
there
are
both
through
kitslano
through
Strathcona.
There
are
some
great
examples
of
multi-family
homes
with
character
value.
Sorry,
okay,.
A
Thank
you
clerk
point
of
procedure.
Do
you
have
to
see
the
chair
perfect
awesome,
so
I
I
just
have
a
couple
of
comments.
Questions
so
thank
you
for
all
the
work
done
on
this
by
the
way.
So
my
question
is:
what
happens
if
we
give
a
grant
tote
and
then
someone
sells
the
house
and
I
I
would
assume
it
would
be
for
a
higher
price
than
before
they
made
the
rental
Lake.
Is
there
a
claw
back
to
the
city?
No.
N
Mayor
there's
no
clawback
from
the
city
once
the
upgrades
are
completed.
That's
the
the
end
of
the
involvement,
the
program
aside
from
the
utility
data
sharing.
A
Okay,
and
so
you
might
have
answered
the
second
question,
then
and
I
know
we're
talking
about
Heritage
buildings,
but
at
some
points
in
the
future.
You
know
these
buildings
may
get
redeveloped
and
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
how
we
get
there.
Let's
just
say
we
get
there.
Is
there
a
claw
back
for
that
as
well?
If
you
know
five
years
or
12
years
from
now,
all
the
work
that
we
helped
with
the
ground
gets
knocked
down.
Is
there
any
kind
of
clawback
there
as
well.
N
Great
question:
no
there's
no
claw
back.
We
would
have
those
10
to
12
years
of
emission
reductions
which
we
would
have
gained
through
the
program,
but
there's
no
clawback
of
the.
A
Rebate,
those
are
the
only
questions
I
had.
Thank
you
very
much.
N
O
Thanks
very
much
I'm
thankful
for
being
able
to
come
back.
This
to
me
has
been
a
really
a
fantastic
discussion
debate
on
this
on
this
issue
and
I'm
hearing.
Obviously,
a
number
of
threads
and
I'm
sure
staff
are
as
well
regarding
the
use
of
of
these
dollars
in
a
way
so
I
guess
I
want
to
just
review.
Some
of
the
comments
have
already
been
made,
but
just
a
little
bit
of.
If
we
decide
not
to
approve
this,
we
still
have
that
funding
that
that
granting
ability.
O
We
also
have
some
of
the
Partnerships
you
described,
and
we
also
have
clearly
the
the
objective
here
which
is
to
to
make
these
older
buildings
safer.
So
just
so,
I
hear
it
again.
If
we,
if
we
send
this
back,
can
we
foreseeably
get
another
program
that
would
focus
on
again
with
more
of
a
slightly
better
Equity
lens
and
as
well
perhaps
a
larger
impact
on
with
multi-family
a.
N
A
I
Thanks
I'm
wondering
if
Council
were
to
vote
these
recommendations
down
what
happens
and
what
direction
would
be
needed
if
the
intent
in
not
approving
the
the
recommendations
today
is
to
send
staff
back
to
work
on
both
this
piece
around
means
testing
and
the
the
piece
around
multi-family
is
that
direction?
We
should
sorry.
This
is
a
many
question
question.
Should
we
be
referring
it
back
to
staff
to
do
that
work
rather
than
than
just
voting
the
recommendations
down?
Ideally,.
N
Yes,
referring
it
back
to
staff
with
the
focus
on
a
means
test
and
if
there's
interest
in
including
more
multi-family
or
if
the
focus
is
only
on
multi-family
and
perhaps
excluding
dwellings
with
one
family
or
fewer.
I
Okay,
great
appreciate
that
I
I
will
leave
it
there
and
because
I
see
someone
else's.
A
N
N
D
I'm,
just
sort
of
going
back
to
my
initial
question,
where
I
was
looking
at
all
these
properties
and
I'm,
looking
at
them
again
and
like
I,
can't
find
one
that's
at
least
on
the
market
right
now
for
under
1.9
1.8
1.9
million.
D
N
We
could
look
at
what's
done
to
the
clean
BC
income
qualified
program
offhand
I
think
their
cutoff
is
somewhere
around
108
000
for
receiving
the
clean
BC
income,
qualified
program,
that's
a
household
income,
and
then
we
need
to
look
at
a
separate
value
for
home
value.
Okay,.
N
N
I
mean
I
think
we
could
get
interest
and
participation
in
the
program
setting
that
that
income
threshold-
yes.
P
D
A
Great
thank
you.
Whoops
councilor
Kirby
young.
E
Yeah
I
will
just
say
that
I
I'm
I'm
a
little
leery
around
I
I,
appreciate
the
suggestion.
I
can
follow
up
on
that
question
around
referring
back
to
staff
but
I'm
a
little
leery
about
providing
really
prescriptive
language,
because
that
assumes
that
council
is
going
to
endorse
a
means-tested
approach.
E
We
won't
have
staff
analysis
necessarily
around
the
pros
and
cons
of
it
of
what
the
income
level
is
set
up
as
to
whether
or
not
you
don't
want
to
do
means
testing
and
potentially
it
would
be
better
to
just
look
at
the
net
number
of
multi-family
units
across
buildings.
You
know
giving
preference
to
ones
that
have
could
be
character.
Houses
could
be
three-story
character,
buildings
that
have
more
units
or
impact
more
homes
and
families
might
potentially
have
more
Merit,
for
example,
than
considering
a
means.
Testing
approach.
R
Thank
you,
Doug
Smith,
Deputy,
general
manager
for
planning,
Urban,
Design
and
sustainability.
Thank
you.
So
yeah
I
I
agree
with
you
counselor.
Ideally
a
more
generic
motion
to
basically
send
staff
back
to
review
the
program
through
the
lens
of
equity,
including
multi-family
buildings
would
be
all
we
would
need
at
this
point.
I
don't
think
we
need
too
much
more
detail
than
that
and
we
can
do
some
research
and
bring
it
back
to
for
council's
consideration.
A
A
Just
go
to
sorry
mnq!
Oh
sorry,
we
need
a
secondary.
A
Okay,
so
you're
on
the
Queue
and
then
so
can
we
have
a
secondary
counselor
dominado
great.
E
Okay
and
I
wonder
if
the
clerks
can
bring
that
up
too,
if
it's
helpful,
I'll
read
it
out
for
the
record
just
to,
while
that's
coming
up
just
so
that
the
public
can
follow
along
and
the
language
currently
to
refer.
The
report
to
staff
to
work
with
the
Vancouver
Heritage
Foundation
to
develop
a
potential
multi-family.
E
Sorry
I'm,
going
to
strike
that
sorry,
I'm.
Actually
sorry,
I
still
have
time
here.
I
forgot
to
strike
a
couple
of
words
to
develop
a
potential
multi-family
framework
or
program,
I'm,
going
to
say
multi-family
program
with
consideration
given
to
equity
and
other
considerations
and
bring
back
to
council
for
our
consideration.
E
E
And
just
be
just
speaking
to
this
I
think
what
we're
hearing
clearly
is
a
desire
from
Council
to
really
move
in
the
direction
of
the
lining,
with
our
overall
housing
strategy,
which
is
really
seeing
a
move
away
from
single-family
home
due
to
affordability
in
the
city
and
a
focus
on
multi-family
units.
E
Obviously,
a
desire
to
still
continue
to
support,
Heritage
and
Heritage
retention,
but
in
terms
of
allocation
of
city
of
Vancouver
taxpayer
dollars
and
limited
dollars,
feeling
that
it's
more
appropriate
at
this
point
in
time
to
shift
the
focus
towards
multi-family
and
feeling
that
that
provides
some
balance
there
and
then
looking
to
potentially
the
equity
considerations,
but
also,
as
we
discuss
things
like
looking
at
the
multi-family
and
number
of
net
units.
And
so
this
language
I
hope
is
high
level
enough,
that
it
will
bring
I
know.
E
Staff
are
listening
intently
to
the
conversation
that
they
will
be
able
to
bring
forward
some
Alternatives
and
options
for
us
which,
where
you
may
say,
yeah.
We.
We
recommend
things
like
considering
multi-units
and
Equity,
or
we
actually
think
that
just
considering
a
multi-unit
approach
on
its
own,
regardless
of
equity,
is,
will
deliver
more,
as
I
said,
net
ghcs
and
potentially
help
more
families.
So
that's
the
spirit
of
the
amendment.
I
Thanks
I'm
happy
to
to
support
this.
You
know
there
had
been
some
shuffling
around
different
Amendment
language
and
appreciate
staff's
suggestion
that
we
keep
at
high
level
and
the
two
pieces
that
I
just
want
to
highlight
that
I
can
appreciate.
We
don't
want
to
be
too
prescriptive,
but
I
think
the
income
or
home
value
or
whatever
means
testing
conversation,
is
certainly
interesting
and
valuable
and
I
hope.
I
Recommendations
around
that
are
I.
Assume
will
be
part
of
this
language
here
about
consideration
given
to
equity
and
other
considerations,
as
well
as
one
of
the
concerns
I
frequently
hear,
and
it's
not
just
in
Vancouver,
but
all
over
is
existing
renters
feeling
quite
nervous
actually
about
energy
retrofits,
even
though
they
they
know
it
could
have
a
significant
Improvement
to
their
home
and
their
quality
of
life.
I
Because
of
such
a
high
level
of
fear,
around
eviction
and
displacement,
and
so
I
I
know
we
are
conscious
of
that,
but
just
want
to
flag
on
the
record
that
those
are
important
pieces
within
that
Equity
frame
that
we'd
be
looking
at
and
I
I
know
our
various
pilot
projects
around
multi-family
retrofit
are
keeping
that
in
mind.
I
I
Support
for
these
types
of
programs
and
and
and
work
to
rebuild
that
trust
and
overcome
the
fear
that
so
many
renters
have
about
these
building
improvements.
So
anyway,
it's
kind
of
a
tangent
to
say,
I'm,
happy
to
support
this
amendment
and
I
appreciate
councilor
Kirby
young
crafting
up
the
language.
O
Yeah
thanks
very
much
chair,
so
I
would
also
like
to
support
this
amendment.
I
I
think
it
kind
of
meets
the
bar
being
set
by
this
Council
in
terms
of
both
addressing
climate
action
and
is
well
just
trying
to
address
the
issue
of
fairness
in
the
use
of
public
of
dollars,
which
are
not
in
limited
Supply.
It
is
300
000,
but
if
we
can
find
the
most
effective
way
of
using
it,
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
the
work
that
continues
with
the
Vancouver
Heritage
Foundation.
O
We
had
a
fantastic
meet
and
greet
last
night
with
our
members
of
our
Civic
agencies
and
including
several
from
the
Heritage
Foundation.
So
I'm
always
greatly
appreciative
of
our
these
volunteer
bodies,
because
they're
extremely
engaged
in
our
city
and
and
want
to
do
good
things,
and
so
this
is
a
I
think,
a
better
solution.
I
think
I,
always
sort
of
err
on
the
side
of
keeping
things
simple
and
I
always
don't
want
to
give
more
direction
to
staff
than
they
need.
O
But
I
think
that
they've
heard
from
this
I
think
really
good
debate
here
this
morning
that
we
are
looking
for
some.
Some
changes
to
the
Direction
with
with
this
program
and
this
funding
I
know
that
we
just
launched
the
I
call
it
the
Rara
retrofit
program
last
week,
and
that
was
an
announcement
and
I
know
that
that
was
built
upon
the
previous
Council
work
and,
of
course,
our
Earth
Day
motion
earlier
in
the
year.
So
those
kinds
of
Partnerships
I
think
are
really
positive
for
our
city
and
I.
O
Think
that,
with
just
a
little
bit
more
consideration
this
this,
this
particular
program
can
be
that
much
better
and
achieve
the
the
climate
goals
that
we're
all
really
seeking.
So
thanks
very
much.
C
Yeah
I'll
I'll
support
this
I
mean
I,
have
a
few
issues
with
it.
I
do
appreciate
that
this
moves
away
from
trying
to
conflate
land
value
and
home
value
because,
as
we
know,
Heritage
homes
aren't
really
actually
worth
a
lot
of
money
at
all.
It's
the
dirt
that
that
we're
paying
for
in
the
city
of
Vancouver,
so
I
appreciate
that
this
just
is
a
bit
more
generally
on
the
equity.
C
I
do
have
a
couple
of
concerns
number
one
for
the
folks
who
may
be
on
this
wait
list
right
now
and
have
been
expecting
this,
and
this
is
going
to
delay
their
projects
and
permits
and
and
that
that's
unfortunate
for
anybody
who's
on
the
12
plus
wait
list
that
was
hoping
to
get
these
grants.
C
The
other
concern
that
I
have
and
I'm
hoping
that
staff
can
take
this,
for
what
it's
worth
is
is
the
language
of
multi-family,
I
I,
know,
for
instance,
more
than
one
family
that
has
multiple
Generations
that
have
chosen
to
go
in
on
a
home
with
the
parents
and
then
building
it
out
so
that
the
kids
can
move
there
with
their
children
and
so
three
generations
of
a
family,
one
home
that
technically
isn't
multi-family.
But
it's
certainly
multi-unit.
C
So
I
hope
when
this
is
coming
back,
that
it's
not
left
in
this
idea
of
multiple
different
families,
but
rather
an
extended
family
that
chooses
to
do
this
kind
of
retrofit,
because
I
think
that's
probably
a
realistic
scenario
in
a
lot
of
Heritage
houses
that
aren't,
as
maybe
sound
proof
and
and
carved
upable.
So
I
will
I
will
support
this,
but
I
hope
that
that
takeaway
is
kind
of
left
with
staff.
Thanks.
Q
Thanks
mayor
supportive
of
the
amendment
and
I'm
glad
we
were
able
to
find
a
way
forward.
It
does
address
many
of
my
concerns
around
equity
and
fairness
with
the
program.
So
much
appreciate
my
colleagues
for
putting
putting
the
amendment
forward.
Q
53
of
households
in
Vancouver
are
renters
and
and
62
percent
of
vancouverites
live
in
multi-family
homes,
and
that's
only
going
to
continue
to
increase
as
we
move
towards
implementing
our
missing
middle
program
and
also
just
densifying
the
city,
so
I
think,
with
that
significant
lack
of
incentives
for
multi-family
dwellings
to
install
things
like
heat
pumps,
we
heard
today
there's
no
currently
no
incentives
for
the
provincial
government,
but
hopeful
that
those
will
be
coming
soon.
M
Thanks
mayor
yeah,
again
also
I'm
happy
to
support
this
amendment,
so
yeah
I
think
the
equity
and
other
kinds
of
the
region
will
keep
enhancing
this
program.
So
I
got
one
question
through
your
chair:
I
want
to
ask
staff.
So
if
this
amendment
is
passed,
what
is
the
timeline
when
you're
going
to
report
back
to
council
in
a
feasible.
N
Over
to
Doug
Smith
to
answer
the
question
around
timeline
for
context,
developing
the
program
initially
took
nine
months,
so
that's
just
a
context
of
how
long
it
took
to
develop
initially
yeah
yeah.
R
M
So
then,
what
about
the
funding
already
approved
in
2023
budget.
R
J
Yeah,
thank
you
actually
will
be
supporting
the
the
amendment
of
the
referral
motion
and
appreciate
that
we
can
get
it
back
fairly
quickly.
I
really
want
to
appreciate
the
Vancouver
Heritage
Foundation
for
their
partnership
with
the
city
of
Vancouver
and
with
building
owners
in
in
moving
forward
on
reducing
ghgs
I.
Think
it's
really
critical
that
we
recognize
that
every
bit
counts
in
terms
of
reducing
ghgs
in
this
case,
there's
a
secondary
benefit,
which
is
preserving
some
Heritage
in
our
landscape
and
I.
J
Think
there's
a
value
in
that
too,
that
it's
you
know,
neighborhoods
of
sameness,
are
nowhere
near
as
interesting
or
vibrant
as
neighborhoods
that
have
some
diversity
of
buildings
in
them
and
to
keep
some
Heritage
in
your
landscape.
I
think
is
a
very
important
concept
for
people.
I
think
they
they
appreciate
it
so
so
that
piece,
I
think
is,
is
really
good
and
I
just
want
to
say.
You
know
we
sometimes
think
well,
6
000,
you
know
six.
What
is
it?
Six
thousand
three
hundred
tons
the
the
program
reduced
our
ghgs
by
well.
J
That's
not
a
very
big
amount,
but
the
point
is
it's
all.
Those
little
projects
that
do
add
up
I
asked
the
question
that
it
it
seems
that
that
might
be
one
percent
of
our
higher
buildings.
Okay,
so
buildings
are
about
half
of
our
emissions.
So
basically
you
could,
for
200
of
these
kinds
of
projects,
get
our
emissions
to
zero.
J
Think
about
that
200
of
these
different
kinds
of
projects
would
get
our
missions
down
to
where
we
need
to
aim
to
so
actually
supporting
every
one
of
these
smaller
initiatives,
especially
if
they
can
be
done
within
nine
months.
That's
just
the
time
it
takes
to
birth,
the
baby
right
so
or
create
one.
So
basically,
it's
you
know,
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
very
open
minds
around
the
importance
of
these
projects.
Moving
forward
in
tackling
the
climate
emergency.
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
seeing
no
one
else
on
the
Queue
can
we
bring
the
amendment
to
a
vote?
Please?
A
A
Great
and
the
motion
passes
unanimously
with
Council
reply,
not
here.
J
D
Sorry,
just
the
point
of
order:
Mr
Mayor,
I
I
meant
to
recruse
myself
as
a
conflict
of
interest
on
this
beforehand,
so
am
I
able
to
to
do
that
before
we
we
proceed.
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
counselor
Matthew.
Is
there
a
real
story.
D
Mary
as.
D
I
was
I
was
busy
with
something
else
when
you
asked
for
Declarations
of
conflict,
I
still
have
a
current
outstanding
complaint
in
the
process
and
while
there's
no
I
haven't
incurred,
any
expenses
there's
always
the
possibility
that
that
might
happen
so
in
abundance
of
caution.
I'm
going
to
declare
Bank
conflict,
okay,
great.
A
I
Thanks
I
will
be
also
declaring
a
conflict
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution
due
to
an
expectation
that
I
will
also
be
bringing
a
request
for
reimbursement
forward.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
okay.
Let
me
just
got
caught
up
here
now.
A
Okay,
so
counselor
Carr,
you
held
this
item
and
you
have
up
to
five
minutes
or
sorry.
You
have
five
minutes.
Ask
questions
of
team
members.
J
I
just
need
some
clarification,
so
if,
through
you,
I
could
ask
some
questions
to
staff
I,
don't
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
So
my
points
of
information
are
these:
there
I
understand
no
partisan
use
of
city,
property
or
resources.
So
in
a
publication
you
would,
as
I
did
with
my
sudden
silence,
hidden
voices
just
date:
Adrian
Carr,
Vancouver,
City,
councilor
right
no
partisan
attachment.
My
question
is
more
around.
J
If
one
of
us
does
an
event
I'm
using
our
expense,
there
are
constituency
budget,
and
at
that
event
we
get
asked
questions
about
the
goings-on
at
City
Hall.
It's
about
an
issue.
What
is
fair
game
for
us
to
talk
about,
for
example,
can
we
talk
about
the
fact
that,
on
that
issue
there
was
a
vote
and
the
vote
broke
down
like
this?
Do
we
do
we
have
to
name
all
the
counselors,
or
can
we
say
all
ABC
counselors
voted
this
way.
The
three
others
voted
this
way?
J
F
S
The
story-
it's
Grant,
Murray
I'm,
the
assistant
director
of
legal
services
and
I,
was
engaged
in
drafting
this
report
and
drafting
the
bylaw
I.
Do
not
believe
that
either
of
those
things
would
would
be
problematic
if
you
were
to
discuss
the
office
holders
activities.
The
office
holders
contact
information,
the
role
played
by
the
office
holder
in
Civic
business
and
the
services
provided
by
the
office
holder,
bu,
that's
certainly
fair
game.
S
I-
think
that
the
specific
Direction
was
to
avoid
seeking
any
contributions
to
a
political
party
or,
as
it's
known
in
the
Vancouver
Charter
an
elector
organization,
but
I,
don't
think
that
in
any
manner
it's
supposed
to
undermine
the
ability
of
a
counselor
to
speak
their
mind
about
issues
provided
that
it's
not
for
the
purposes
of
fundraising
or
for
the
purposes
of
advocating
contributions
in
some
manner
to
a
political
organization
or
political
party.
But
but
it
certainly
was
not
intended
in
any
manner
to
be
a
difficulty
to
be
a
difficulty
with
that.
S
J
It's
absolutely
satisfactory.
Thank
you
friend.
Hi
I
really
appreciate
that
that
is
not
it's
not
a
limiting
factor
in
terms
of
our
right
to
speak
freely
around
around
the
decisions
that
happen
at
the
council
table,
but
rather
that
we
just
will
not
raise
money,
which
is
fine,
using
City
resources
and
and
totally
understandable,
so
I'm
I'm
good
with
that.
But
I
see
this
other
question
yourself.
Otherwise
I
would
have
moved
the
motion.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
councilor
Meisner
yeah.
Q
Thanks
mayor
and
thanks
councilor
Carr
for
raising
that
my
question
kind
of
follows
up
on
that.
Some
counselors
have
websites
that
are
separate
from
the
city
website
for
their
campaign
and
for
keeping
their
constituents
updated
on,
what's
happening
at
Council
and
some
of
those.
Sometimes
those
websites
are
paid
for
out
of
the
counselors
communication
expense
fund.
But
my
question
is
around
having
a
donation
button,
for
example,
on
those
external
websites.
Is
that
something
that
would
not
be
allowed
in
this
new?
This
new
bylaw
framework.
S
Foreign
I
would
think
that
that
would
be
prohibited
if
the
money
was,
if
there
was
public
money
used
for
the
purposes
of
of
collecting
or
raising
the
donations.
I
understand
that
that's
something
that
we're
trying
to
prohibit
through
this
Amendment.
S
So
if
your
question
is
a
a
website
that
is
funded
in
some
manner
through
public
funds
is
in
fact
asking
for
donations.
I
would
think
that
that
would
cross
the
line
according
to
the
way
that
this
is
drafted.
Q
Okay,
that
was
my
understanding
as
well
by
reading
it,
so
thank
you
for
confirming
that.
S
If
it
was
a
separate
website
that
did
not
in
any
manner
get
any
funding
from
the
city,
that's
of
course
fine
or
if
it
was
a
political
party's
particular
website.
There
was
no
way
funded
through
the
city.
Then
I
think
that
would
also
be
fine.
Yeah.
Q
S
Clear
I
think
it
would
be
better
to
avoid
that,
based
on
the
wording
of
the
Bible.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilor
dominato.
L
Sure,
thanks
I
was
just
happy
to
move
the
report.
Recommendations
awesome
great.
A
Is
there
a
secondary,
councilor
Claussen
council?
Is
there
any
discussion.
L
Terry
thanks
mayor
I
just
wanted
to
reflect
a
thanks
for
staff
for
following
through
and
bringing
forward
this
report,
both
driven
by
council
member
motions
from
this
term
and
last
term.
Just
speaking
to
the
issue
of
the
additional
dedicated
funds
for
legal
expenses.
I
think
we
have
seen
over
the
last
term
and
also
this
term
where
there's
been
complaints
and
matters
that
need
to
be
investigated
and
and
counselors
have
had
to
retain
legal
support,
and
we
have
a
number
obviously
over
cues.
L
L
So
I
really
think
this
is
a
necessary
measure
and
then
on
the
subject
of
clarifying
eligible
expenses,
I
think
this
is
really
important
and-
and
it's
very
much
mirrored
mirrors
the
definitions
that
are
used
at
the
provincial
level
for
mlas
in
terms
of
how
constituency
funds
can
be
used
and
so
we're
in
support
of
of
community
work
in
this
case
Civic
work,
but
prohibiting
that
those
funds-
you
know
public
funds,
taxpayer
dollars
be
used
for
partisan
purposes
and
I.
L
Think
there
were
concerns
raised
last
term
about
questions
as
to
the
appropriateness
of
of
public
funds
being
used
by
the
city
and
so
I
think
what
it
does
is
adds
that
Clarity
for
counselors,
but
also
increases
transparency
and
accountability
to
the
public
for
uses
installers,
so
I
appreciate
the
work.
That's
gone
into,
bringing
forward
these
two
proposals.
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much,
seeing
no
one
else
on
the
Queue
I
like
to
bring
it
to
a
vote.
There's
no
one
online,
so
I'm
a
clerk.
Can
you
please
take
us
to
the
voting
screen
and
Council?
Please
register
your
vote
on
the
voting
panel.
A
And
so
the
motion
passes
I
guess
unanimously,
with
declared
conflicts
with
councilor
Kirby,
young
Boyle
and
Montague
and
councilor
Bly
absent.
A
F
A
A
And
we
can't
start
right
okay,
so
we
have
nine
bylaws
on
the
agenda
for
enactment
council
members
who
are
not
present
for
the
meetings
related
to
public
hearing
enactment
bylaws
plus
confirmed
that
they
have
reviewed
the
proceedings
of
the
meetings
if
they
wish
to
vote
on
the
in
enactment
bylaw.
One
is
from
the
public
hearing
of
June
the
14th
2022
counselors
Clausen
Meisner
Montague
Joe
and
myself
were
not
on
Council
at
the
time
and
we'll
need
to
review
the
proceedings
to
be
eligible
to
vote.
A
Councilor
Claussen
have
you
reviewed
the
proceedings
and
will
you
be
voting
on
The
enactment,
yes,
I
have
and
I
will
thanks,
councilor
Meisner,
counselor,
Montague,
I
have
and
I
will
counselor,
Joe
and
I
have
not,
and
I
will
not.
Bylaw
three
is
from
the
public
hearing
of
April
the
12th
2022.
counselors
Bligh
and
Kirby
young
were
absent
for
this
item
of
the
public
hearing
counselors
class
in
Meisner,
Montague
Joe
and
myself
were
not
on
council
at
the
time.
A
However,
on
May
the
30th
2023
counselors
Kirby
young
class
in
Montague
and
Joe
advised
that
they
had
reviewed
the
proceedings
and
were
eligible
to
vote
councilor
Bly.
Well,
it's
not
here,
so
she
won't
be
voting.
Counselor
Eisner,
have
you
reviewed
and
will
you
be
voting?
I
have
not,
and
I
will
not
be
well
I.
Love.
Five
is
from
the
public
hearing
of
January
the
18th
2022.
counselors
class
and
Meisner
Montague
Joe
and
myself
were
not
on
council
at
the
time.
A
However,
on
May
30th
2023
counselors
class
in
Montague
and
Joe
advised
that
they
had
reviewed
the
proceedings
and
were
eligible
to
vote.
Councilor
Meisner
have
you
reviewed
the
proceedings
and
will
you
be
voting
great
and
I
have
not
and
I
will
not.
Bylaw
seven
is
from
the
public
hearing
of
June
the
21st
2022.
councilor
Bly
was
absent
for
this
item
at
the
public
hearing,
counselors
Classen,
Meisner,
Montague,
Joe
and
myself
were
not
on
council
at
the
time.
A
However,
on
June,
the
27th
2023
counselors
class
and
Meisner
Montague
and
Joe
advised
that
they
had
reviewed
the
proceedings
and
were
eligible
to
vote.
I
have
not
reviewed
the
by
law
and
I
will
not
be
voting.
Bylaw.
Nine
is
from
the
public
hearing
of
October.
The
14th
2022
counselors,
Bly
and
dominato
were
absent
for
the
item
at
the
public
hearing,
counselors
class
and
Meisner
Montague
Joe
and
myself
were
not
on
council
at
the
time
and
we'll
need
to
review
the
proceedings
to
be
eligible
to
vote.
A
Okay,
so
counselor
dominato
have
you
reviewed
the
proceedings
then?
Will
you
be
voting
on
the
enactment
councilor,
Claussen
I
have
and
I
will
counselor
Meisner,
councilor,
Montague,
I
have
and
I
will
counselor,
Joe
and
I
have
not
and
I
will
not
be.
Would
someone
like
to
move
a
motion
to
adopt
bylaws
139
great?
Thank
you,
councilor
Meisner
seconded
by
councilor
Carr
council.
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say
yay
great,
the
motion
carries
unanimously.
The
list
of
approved
bylaws
can
be
found
on
the
city's
website.
A
So
there
are
four
administrative
motions
on
the
agenda
today.
Number
one
is
approval:
a
form
of
development,
1083,
Nelson
Street,
formerly
1059,
the
1075
Nelson
Street.
Does
any
member
wish
to
declare
a
conflict
of
interest
on
this
motion
Council?
Are
there
any
questions
to
team
members?
A
Would
someone
like
to
move
a
motion
councilor
Clausen?
Thank
you
very
much.
Is
there
a
secondary,
councilor
Carr?
Thank
you,
council.
Is
there
any
discussion
see
none
all
those
in
favor
say
yay
all
those
opposing
a
great.
The
motion
passes
unanimously
number
two
approval
of
form
of
development
1006
to
10
10
East,
King,
Edward
Avenue.
Does
any
member
wish
to
declare
a
conflict
of
interest
on
this
motion
Council?
Are
there
any
questions
to
team
members
being
none?
Would
someone
like
to
move
a
motion
great
counselor
Joe?
A
Thank
you
seconded
by
counselor
Kirby
young.
Thank
you
all.
Those
in
favor
say
yay.
Okay,
all
those
opposing
a
great.
The
motion
carries
unanimously
approval
of
number
three
approval
of
form
of
development:
708
East,
28th
Avenue,
formerly
4408-4488,
Fraser
Street
and
707-709
East
29th
Avenue.
Does
any
member
wish
to
declare
a
conflict
of
interest
on
this
motion
counselor?
Are
there
any
questions
to
team
members?
Oh,
would
someone
like
to
move
a
motion,
great
I,
think
seconded
by
councilor
clason?
It
was
moved
by
counselor
Meisner
council.
A
A
Seeing
a
counselor
are
there
any
questions
to
team
members
nope?
Would
someone
like
to
move
a
motion
great?
Thank
you
very
much,
councilor
dominato
seconded
by
counselor
Joe
council.
Is
there
any
discussion
nope
all
those
in
favor
say:
yay,
all
those
opposing
a
great.
The
motion
carries
unanimously:
hey
notice,
the
council
member
motions:
are
there
any
notices
of
council
member
motions
for
upcoming
standing
committee
meetings?
I
would
like
to
remind
Council
that,
due
to
the
amendment
of
the
procedure,
bylaws
members
motions
will
be
placed
on
standing,
Community
agendas.
A
E
C
Yeah
notice
for
the
July
26
standing
committee,
meeting
guidance
and
Clarity
for
Council
decisions
and
open
meetings,
co-submitted
with
counselor
Boyle.
A
Thank
you
very
much
any
last
takers,
none
all
right
new
business.
We
have
one
item
of
new
business
on
the
agenda
today
and
it's
requests
for
leaves
of
absence
as
follows:
counselor
of
life
or
Civic
business,
from
meetings
on
July,
the
18th
and
20th
from
5
30
PM
to
7,
30
p.m
and
July
the
26th
from
9
30
a.m,
to
5
p.m.
Counselor
Montague
for
civic
business,
from
meetings
on
July,
the
18th
from
5
PM
to
6
p.m,
and
counselor
Meisner
for
civic
business
from
meetings
on
July,
the
13th
from
6
PM
onwards.
Council.
A
Counselor,
okay,
oops
missing
that?
Okay?
So
let
me
stop
the
timer!
Sorry,
okay!
So
can
we
do
we
sorry
do
I
need
to?
Can
we
please
have
a
mover
great
I,
counselor,
Kirby
Young
seconded
by
counselor
Montague,
all
those
in
favor
say:
yay?
Okay,
all
those
policy
nay
create.
The
motion
carries
now
Council.
Are
there
any
other
items
of
new
business,
counselor
dominato.
L
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
noted
I
want
to
procedure.
Do
you
have
to
see
the
chair?
Oh
sorry,
can
we
get
a
secondary
please
for
councilor
Domino's?
Thank
you,
counselor
Carr,
all
those
in
favor
say
yay.
All
those
Apollo
right
motion
carries
unanimously
sort
of
point
of
procedure.
Do
I
have
to
see
the
chair
nope
great.
Thank
you.
A
I
do
have
an
item
new
business
leave
of
absent
so
on
Wednesday
July,
the
12th
from
3
P.M
onwards,
for
civic
business
and
on
September,
26th,
27th
and
28th
and
October
the
4th
and
5th
for
personal
reasons
and
I
did
circulate
that
too.
Thank
you
can
I.
Please
have
a
secondary
second
great.
Thank
you.
Councilor
Kirby
young,
all
those
in
favor
say
yay.
All
those
policy,
nay
great.
The
motion
carries
counselor
Kirby
Young.
E
Yeah
I
have
one
for
Phil
I
feel
like
we
should
bundled
all
these
up.
I
have
one
for
July,
26th
I
may
have
sent
a
type
on
there
from
5
p.m.
On
for
civic
business.
A
Thank
you.
Can
we
please
have
a
secondary
great
thank
you.
Counselor
Boyle,
all
those
in
favor
say
yay,
all
those
opportunity,
the
motion
curies.
Thank
you.
Counselor
Frye.
A
Awesome,
thank
you.
Can
we
please
have
a
seconder
great
counselor
Carr,
all
those
in
favor
say:
yay.
Okay,
all
those
Paul
CNA
create.
The
motion
carries
the
unanimously
counselor
class
and
thanks.
O
Mayor
leave
of
absence
for
personal
business,
July
25
PM
onwards,.
A
All
those
in
favor
cea,
all
those
policy
name
counselor
Joe
seconded.
Thank
you,
councilor
Meisner,.
Q
Yes,
sorry
about
this
doctor's
appointment,
July,
13th
or
sorry
12th
three
to
four
tomorrow.
A
Personal
reasons,
thank
you
can
I,
please
have
a
secondary
counselor
Joe,
all
those
in
favor
say
yay,
all
those
pulsing,
a
great
the
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
items
to
new
business
before
we
move
on
to
inquiries
and
other
matters
right
all
right,
so
Council?
Are
there
any
inquiries
or
other
matters?
M
Thanks
mayor
I
want,
through
you,
chair,
to
make
an
inquiry
to
city
manager
I
think
last
year
in
August.
At
the
end
of
the
last
console
term,
the
GM
of
accs
send
a
memo
to
council
providing
updates
on
the
progress
and
the
Future
Works
required
for
cities.
M
Anti-Racism
strategy
I
really
want
to
express
my
appreciation
to
the
great
works
and
effort
in
putting
together
the
the
memo,
so
I
think
considering
this
there's
so
many
important
and
valuable
insights
from
that
previous
memo,
which
is
almost
a
year
ago,
I
would
like
to
ask
about
the
possibility
to
you
know,
for
updating
the
memo
and
regarding
the
filter,
progress
and
Milestone,
and
the
future
steps
to
continue
advancing
this
anti-racism
strategy
for
city
of
Vancouver.
Thanks.
T
Thanks
very
much
counselor
Joe,
so
yeah
happy
to
report
back
with
the
memo
on
that.
I
can
say
that
the
last
year
the
social
policy
team
has
been
significantly
impacted,
both
by
Staffing
challenges,
as
well
as
work
related
to
the
Hastings
Street,
encampment,
Street,
bending
and
so
on.
So
we
have
not
made
as
much
progress
in
the
last
year
but
happy
to
provide
council
with
the
background
on
that,
as
well
as
the
work
that
we
anticipate
coming
forward.
Thanks.
I
I
also
have
a
request
to
the
city
manager,
which
is
just
in
in
light
of
the
pretty
dire
warnings
that
we're
hearing
from
The
Province
around
drought,
I'm
wondering
if
Council
can
get
an
update,
I
mean
happy
to
hear
now,
but
also
an
update
on
how
we
can
help
amplify
requests
across
the
city
to
be
best.
What
managing
water.
T
E
Yeah
thanks
a
question
for
you
to
city
manager
and
it's
with
respect
to
the
U
Street
pilot
I
know
that
staff
Council
has
been
asking
questions
and
some
information
has
come
back
but
I
wonder
if
you
can
clarify
for
the
public
because
we're
getting
a
tsunami
of
feedback.
Confusion
between
us
has
been
identified
if
it's
a
through
way
versus
a
plaza,
why
it
doesn't
have
more
activation
questions
about
accessibility
and
access,
not
liking
the
implementation,
the
small
size
of
the
area
as
opposed
to
being
Bolder.
So
what
is
the
status?
E
How
long
will
you
Street
remain
up
like
that,
because
it
is
a
ongoing,
very
high
level
of
concern,
feedback
that
we're
hearing.
T
Yeah
thanks
counselor,
so
I
absolutely
appreciate
that,
and
you
know
we're
we're.
Certainly,
staff
are
hearing
those
issues
as
well
and
are
actually
soliciting,
as
you
know,
feedback
around
how
it's
working
it.
This
is
an
experiment,
so
it
is
the
first
time
that
this
has
been
trialed
on
the
U
Street.
T
T
So
it's
coming
to
a
balance
of
how
to
provide
for
a
pedestrian-only
type
environment,
but
but
also
ensuring
those
businesses
can
continue
to
operate
and
that
the
actual
traffic
flows
around
that
block
or
those
blocks
are
functional
as
well.
So
there
are
a
number
of
changes
that
staff
are
contemplating
happy
to
provide
the
kind
of
feedback
on
that
and
we'll
continue
to
assess
how
it's
working
is.
E
There
is
there
any
contemplation
versus
making
changes,
trying
to
fit
Square,
Peg
and
round
holes,
or
any
contemplation
acknowledgment
that
we
want
to
pedestrianize
trees.
But
maybe
this
isn't
the
one
or
the
location
as
opposed
to
just
you
know.
It
feels
a
bit
like
trying
to
square
peg
around
a
round
hole.
T
So
that's
that's
a
great
question:
counselor
I
mean
I.
I
can
certainly
take
that
back
to
staff.
I.
Think
at
this
stage
we're
not
our
suggestion,
wouldn't
be
that
we're
at
the
stage
yet
of
saying
it's
not
possible
to
make
this
work.
Obviously
that
Council
can
can
shoot
Direction
in
that
regard,
as
well,
so
I
I
think
the
changes
that
are
kind
of
planned
in
process.
T
E
T
Yeah
the
plan
was
for
the
summer
months.
That
was
what
it
was
implemented
relatively
quickly
to
get
in
time
for
the
summer
to
see
how
it
was
working.
So
it's
you
know
something
that
can
be
removed.
It's
obviously
temporary
at
the
stage.
Okay,.
O
Thanks
very
much
to
you,
chair
to
the
city
manager,
thanks
very
much
for
the
the
report
back
on
the
state
of
affairs
with
the
Mountain
View
Cemetery.
There's
a
lot
of
good
information
in
there.
There
is
been
an
continuing
sort
of
narrative
from
community
members.
I
realize
that
it's
been
challenging
because
of
the
removal
of
the
Hedge.
But
the
access
entrance
to
on
Prince
Edward
is
a
real
source
of
concern.
O
It
was
attaching
to
the
pathway
right
next
to
the
the
the
memorial
for
the
military
service
and
it
it
just
meant
that
people
who
had
not
a
kind
of
a
safe
and
more
calm
access
to
walking
through
that
that
that
space
I
think
it's
in
in
an
area
that
is
a
little
bit
has
a
bit
of
a
park
deficit.
It's
proven
a
great
place
for
people
to
go
out
and
and
just
enjoy.
O
Some
of
the
natural
surround
is
very
beautiful
and
Serene
place,
so
I
just
wanted
to
again,
hopefully
get
a
little
bit
of
a
better
clearer
idea
on
the
goals
and
the
timelines
for
that
Prince
entrance
to
be
reopened.
T
Yeah
thanks
counselor
for
the
question
I,
you
know,
I
do
appreciate
the
issues
that
residents
in
that
neighborhood
have
expressed
and
I
think
the
challenges
that
our
team
are
trying
to
manage
in
terms
of
historically
people
walking
on
Graves
and
things
like
that.
I'll
have
to
report
I'll
get
back
to
you
around
the
timelines,
specifically
around
the
Prince
Edward
address
or
access
point
I
should
say
but
understand
the
question
having
to
follow
up
on
that.
Thank.
O
A
Thank
you
very
much,
seeing
no
other,
no
one
else
on
the
Queue.
Can
we
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
the
meeting
that
was
quick,
counselor
Boyle.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
those
in
favor
say
yay
all
those
apples
they
may
great.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.
Thank
you
very
much.
Everyone.