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From YouTube: Waterloo Police Rebranding Committee Meeting 4-14-21
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Waterloo Police Rebranding Committee Meeting 4-14-21
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All
right
doing
all
right,
thanks
for
jumping
on
thanks
for
being
engaged,
so
so
yeah,
let's
go
ahead
and
jump
into
into
the
agendas
kendra
sent
it
out
here
earlier
today,
as
well
as
a
a
rendering
for
us.
You
know.
Looking
back
last
month's
meeting
we
there
was,
there
was
seemed
to
be
a
notion
that
the
committee
hasn't
made
a
ton
of
progress
and
and
I'll
admit
that
I
sort
of
get
into
that
brain
space
every
once
in
a
while
as
well.
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But
I
do
think
it's
good
for
us
to
reflect
on
the
progress
that
we
have
made
up
to
this
point
right.
We've
we've
taken,
we've
created
a
council,
created
this
committee
to
to
figure
out
how
to
change
this
existing
waterloo
police
department.
Insignia
we've
been
meeting
virtually
here
since
october
of
2020
we've
identified
commonality
and
values
from
from
sort
of
both
perspectives
on
this
issue.
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Frankly,
I
think,
looking
at
the
scores
and
looking
at
what
we,
where
we've
come
so
far,
I
think
we've
all-
or
at
least
hopefully
most
of
us
have
have
bought
in
on
this
concept
of
compromise
right.
This
is
this
was
not.
This
was
never
a
committee
council
didn't
create
this
committee
with
the
expectation
that
every
single
person
on
the
committee
every
single
community
member
was
going
to
be.
You
know
tickled
pink
by
what
it
was
that
we
settled
in
on.
That's
not
the
nature
of
compromise.
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We
were
able
to
to
have
a
designer
submit
digital
mock-ups,
which
kendra
sent
around
to
the
committee
members
earlier,
and
so
we
were,
we
were
able
to
take
a
peek
and
see
you
know
what
these
designs
would
and
and
could
look
like
in
embroidery
form.
So
you
know
we
don't
have
the
physical
patches,
but
we
do
have
an
idea
of
of
where
this
thing
is.
What
this,
what
this
can
look
like.
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My
my
one
concern,
supposing,
let's
just
supposing,
if
we
put
that
in
front
of
the
council
as
our
committee
recommendation,
what
haunts
me
a
little
bit
is
what
dave
bozen
bought
up
a
meeting
or
two
ago
as
to
the
similarity
to
our
world
war
ii
opponents.
I
don't
know
how
else
to
put
it
is
there?
Is
there
a
similarity
that
somebody's
going
to
find
offensive
with
the
nazi.
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Yeah,
I
I
want
to
throw
this
out
here
and
see
I
just
like
to
know
from
the
committee.
Is
there
any
of
the
six
that
are
hard?
No,
I
mean
from
all
of
us.
Is
there
anything
that's
a
hard?
No
for
any
of
the
twelve
of
us
of
the
six
remaining
patches
and
we've
kind
of
come
to
these
six?
Is
there
any
of
them
that
anybody
on
the
of
the
12
county
members
would
say
absolutely
not
not
that
one.
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I
think
tim's
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
jump
in
here.
I
think
tim's
point
of
the
concept
of
compromise
is
important.
That
was
the
the
purpose
in
which
this
committee
was
created
and
the
fact
that
we
were
able
to
get
an
average
score
of
over
seven.
That
means
that
means
it
earned
70
over
70
of
the
available
points
by
the
criteria
that
we
set.
You
know,
I
think,
certainly
those
top
two
make
a
ton
of
sense.
At
that
point.
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Well
again,
hi
this
is
cleveland
echo.
What
tim
it
said
again,
you
when
you
look
at
those
two
they
you
know
really
don't
look
like
a
griffin.
They
look
more
like
an
eagle
and
I
would
find
offense
to
those
two
myself.
You
know
the
compromise.
If
we're
talking
compromise
the
one
with
the
with
the
griffin
at
22,
26
34
c2,
is
more
of
a
compromise.
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That
being
said,
I've
thought
long
and
hard
about
this
throughout
this
whole
process,
and
I
I
honestly
thought
that
I
could
you
know,
think
this
through
and
and
help
as
much
as
I
could,
I'm
speaking
as
a
taxpayer
and
in
good
conscience.
I
cannot
vote
for
something
that
I
know
that
the
majority
of
the
citizens,
especially
the
taxpayers,
did
not
want
the
city
can't
afford
at
this
point
to
to
be
doing
things
like
this,
but
again.
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Hearing
that
people
have
done
that
so
again,
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I
for
whatever
reason
you
dislike
the
bridge.
I
look
at
the
bridge
as
a
symbol
of
bringing
us
together.
We've
heard
those
different
comments,
bridging
the
community,
bridging.
So
that's
how
I
look
at
the
bridge.
I
I
never
knew
people
urinated
and
did
all
this
other
stuff.
Once
people.
I
Have
urinated
on
defecated
on
it?
People
have
been
assaulted
on
the
bridge
and
a
lot
of
people.
Don't
know
that
because
we
don't
go
around
and
say
everything
that
happens
every
day.
But
that's
and
I
understand
your
opinion,
but
if
we
can't
agree
on
the
on
the
bridge,
then
I
don't
think
we
should
agree
on
the
griffin.
I
don't
think
we
should
agree
on
anything
today
and
whoever
keeps
muting
me.
Please
allow
me
to
talk.
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But
when
you
know
when
mr
hurley
was
talking
about
the
br
or
the
griffin,
or
not
the
griffin,
but
the
ones
that
were
voting
on
107.,
they
also
mr
hurley,
mr
bose,
and
both
brought
up
the
impression
of
what
it's
compared
to
with
the
war.
And
so
I
don't
agree
that
those
should
be
on
there
as
well.
If
we're
gonna
spend
all
this
money,
we
need
to
compromise
and
get
agree
on
one
one
patch,
but
it
doesn't
sound
like
we're
getting
anywhere.
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I
don't
know
what
else
I
can
add.
I
I
have
the
degree
I
have
the
background.
I
have
the
family
that
survived
the
holocaust,
but
still
people
are
gonna
say
they
see
something.
I
don't
you're
entitled
to
your
opinions,
but
mine
is
the
educated
opinion
and
I'm
not
sure
why
men's
uneducated
opinions
are
coming
before
my
educated
opinion.
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I
don't
know
what
else
to
say.
I've
made
it
very
clear.
The
anti-defamation
league
has
made
it
very
clear.
If
we
have
a
problem
with
eagles,
then
we
also
have
a
problem
with
the
flag
of
iowa
and
the
flag
of
the
united
states,
and
it
is
absolutely
wrong
to
say
that
all
eagles
are
derivative
of
nazi
eagles.
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It
doesn't
have
the
characteristics,
it's
not
holding
anything
in
its
beak.
It
doesn't
have
claws,
it's
not
clutching
a
circle
emblem
in
those
claws.
It
is
in
straight
lines
like
we
talked
about
before
it's
it's
modern
and
fluid.
It's
not
straight
and
heraldic,
I'm
not
sure
what
else
I
can
say
to
be
clear.
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H
Well,
that's
that's
very
true,
but
sometimes
when
we
have
gut
reactions,
we
actually
have
to
check
that
with
information
right
and
not
just
to
go
on
the
gut
feeling,
but
to
follow
it
up
with
diligence
and
we've
done
that.
You
know.
There's
it's
just
not
there.
If
you
want
to
discount
it,
please
do
so
for
other
reasons,
because
it's
it's
not
there.
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Between
maybe
opposing
sides
or
or
fully
engaging
the
community
when
the
current
insignia
was
adopted
and
what
results
from
not
having
these
clarifying
conversations
on
the
front
end
is
turmoil
on
the
back
end
and
so
having
this
conversation
now
before
before
it's
it
is
adopted
if
it
is
or
recommended.
If
it
is
ultimately
recommended
to
counsel
from
this
committee.
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It's
important,
I
think,
for
these
conversations
to
happen
to
to
give
it
light,
as
chaviva
would
say,
give
it
air
right
to
have
these
conversations
where
there
might
be
some
reason
to
critique.
We
work
through
that
critique
and
if
we
ultimately
decide
to
make
the
recommendation
as
a
committee,
then
we
do
so
with
having
full
conversations
and
perspectives
from
folks
who
who
seem
like
pertinent
and
relevant
folks
here.
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Okay,
you
know,
as
far
as
the
the
one
that
we
have
a
motion
on
the
table
for
what's
coming
up
now.
Yeah
I've
heard
a
lot
here
just
in
the
last
15
minutes,
and
I
just.
I
really
hope
that
I'm
qualified
here
to
speak
on
this,
but
107c
in
my
mind,
is
not
a
good
design.
I
I
think
it
can
elicit
some
other
feelings
as
well
from
other
people,
but
that's,
I
guess,
with
any
design,
100
or
220
22
26
34c.
I
probably
like
that.
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L
That
seems
like
quite
a
large
compromise
in
my
mind
and
as
far
as
the
anti-defamation
league
chief,
dr
chief
fitzgerald,
also
reached
out
to
them
on
our
current
patch,
and
they
could
not
find
any
history
where
that
was
offensive
if
we're
citing
and
a
definitionally,
but
I
know
we're
much
beyond
that,
so
I
would
be
a
no
on
this
motion.
Thank
you.
I
Tavis,
I
think
you
know
how
I
feel
about
the
you
know
those
107c
and
107g,
like
I
said,
I'm
concerned
about
mr
hurley
and
mr
bozens.
What
people
came
and
approached
him
about,
so
why
are
we
going
to
spend
that
money
to
change
it?
If
we
need
to
change
it
again
and
maybe
in
a
city
taxpayer,
I
don't
want
to
see
that
money
go
to
waste.
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F
Have
the
council
make
the
recommendation
and
make
the
decision
on
the
patch,
and-
and
I
guess
I
would
recommend
to
the
council-
that
they
look
at
the
six
top
vote
getters
with
all
of
the
information
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
right
now,
as
what
was
the
high
average
score,
the
high
overall
ranking
and
the
high
griffin
ranking
and
non-griffin
ranking.
But
you
would
be.
I
Sharon
my
opinion,
I
don't
like
any
of
these-
that's
down
narrow,
so
in
a
way
I'm
kind
of
like
cliff.
I
don't
want
to
be
any
part
of
this
new
patch.
I
don't
want
to
be
any
part
of
it
and
I
don't
want
to
have
to
look
at
officers
wearing
something
that
they're
not
happy
with,
and
I
don't
want
to
be
any
part
of
that
as
well.
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And
it
is
important
to
remember
that
this
the
purview
of
this
committee
is
not
to
decide
implementation.
It's
not
to
decide
the
the
funding
mechanism
for
implementation.
That
is
simply
to
make
a
recommendation
to
council.
The
council
will
need
to
vote
on
how
to
expand
those
dollars
and
on
what
schedule
to
implement.
So
we
do
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
in
a
second.
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L
If
it's
a
different
color
of
blue
like
more
of
a
robin's
egg
or
like
that
central
central
middle
school
blue,
it
could
clash
and
just
not
look
good.
So
I
don't
know
I'm
not
that
great
with
this
aspect
of
it,
but
I
I
can
tell
you
that
I
think
this
is
not
going
to
look
that
great
up
against
our
current
uniform.
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D
Any
of
that
I'm
attached
to
the
work
that
they
do
and
anytime
you
are
passionate
about
what
you
do
then
you're
not
looking
at
what
a
logo
looks
like
you're,
you're,
you're
working
in
those
organizations
and
with
those
different
members,
because
you're
passionate
about
what
you're
doing
you
know
it's
like.
I,
I
just
don't
get
why
I
just
do
not
get
why
we
are
so
focused
on
a
patch.
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F
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K
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H
A
K
Because
I
mean
my
personal
preference
was
the
one
we
just
voted
for,
but
because
the
other
one,
because
it's
it's
the
highest
ranking
it
got
more
score.
But
if
there's
these
colors,
where
it's
a
concern
about
it
with
the
uniform,
is
it
truly
that
we
just
picked
a
second
that
should
have
been
our
first.
H
G
E
Actually,
that's
what
I
was
gonna
see
too.
If,
if
the
committee
was
okay
with
either
one
of
these
designs,
could
we
pull
and
then
yes,
the
committee
submits
these
two
designs
and
then
so
the
council
still
has
their
pick
and
then
the
officers
I
can
put
this
out
to
a
vote
of
the
officers
and
let
the
council
use
that
as
part
of
their
determination.
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B
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A
D
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C
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C
B
E
E
We
all
heard
it.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
taking
the
time,
and
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
congratulate
tavis
on
his
award
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
seen
the
news.
He
won
the
joe
taylor
vision
award
for
waterloo
and
I
think
that's
a
pretty
big
deal,
so
I
just
want
to
at
least
congratulate
him
for
that
and
as
much
as
we've
disagreed,
we've
agreed
on
things.
So
it's
been
a
learning.
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A
We
you
know
it's
been
a.
This
has
been
a
it's
been
a
stressful
committee
right
most
most
committees.
We
do
it
when
we're,
you
know,
excited
about
the
end
product
and
we
sort
of
went
into
this
one,
knowing
it
was
going
to
mean
compromising
it
was
going
to
mean
giving
up
a
little
bit
of
of
what
we
held
there
in
the
interest
of,
hopefully
finding
some
level
of
common
ground.
I
think
that
we've
done
some
level
of
that.
It
obviously
was
made
a
little
bit
more
difficult
by
these.
A
A
It
might
not
always
feel
feel
great
while
we're
doing
it,
but
we
are
we're
all
building
something
better
here.
So
thanks
everybody
for
for
for
your
service,
for
for
jumping
into
this
for
hearing
about
it
pretty
much
everywhere
you
went
if
you're
like
me,
it's
been
it's
been
taxing
but
proud,
proud
to
have
served
with
with
all
you
all
so.