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From YouTube: WPL Book Drop Podcast - Episode 13
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WPL Book Drop Podcast - Episode 13
In this episode Becky talks books with Waterloo Public Library employee Sheryl McGovern.
A
Welcome
to
the
wpl
book
drop
podcast
joining
us
today
is
sheryl
mcgovern.
She
is
the
library's
current
adult
services
manager,
a
quilter
with
more
than
three
dozen
unfinished
projects,
a
tv
series
binge
watcher
and
a
reading
addict
welcome,
cheryl!
Thank
you,
becky,
I'm
your
host,
becky
miller,
circulation
and
marketing
assistant,
habitual
avocado,
toast
consumer
nonfiction,
fanatic
and
library,
school
student
at
the
university
of
iowa,
so
cheryl
welcome
to
the
podcast.
This
is
your
first
time
joining
us.
B
Sure
I
can
do
that.
I
would
be
glad
to
and
thank
you
for
having
me,
I
retired,
from
the
library
about
five
and
a
half
years
ago
I
held
various
positions
in
a
time
span
of
about
33
years,
but
I
retired,
and
then
nick
rossman
former
director
called
me
for
a
reference
and,
I
said
sure,
and
then
we
kind
of
joked
about
this
pandemic
stress
stream.
I
had
had
pretty
much
every
week
where
I
came
back
to
work
at
waterloo
and
the
building
was
always
different.
B
The
staff
was
sometimes
the
same,
but
the
thing
that
remained
the
same
was
I
didn't
know
what
I
was
doing
and
I
didn't
know
where
my
keys
were,
and
I
didn't
know
how
to
get
in
my
office.
So
anyway
we
joked
about
that
and
then
nick
called
me
one
day
and
said
hey.
You
know
that
dream
and
asked
if
I
would
be
interested
in
coming
back
as
a
temporary
public
services
librarian,
where
I
supervise
the
reference
and
circulation
departments-
and
I
said
yes,
I
would
be
honored
and
excited
to
do
that.
B
Well,
to
make
schedules
and
and
do
things
like
that,
yeah
nick
left
and
then
jillian
stepped
into
his
shoes
as
interim
director,
and
so
then
someone
needed
to
do
jillian's
at
least
basic
works.
I
know
I'm
not
doing
everything
jillian
did,
but
I
am
temporarily
here
until
new
directors
found
and
and
everything
shakes
out
that
way.
A
B
A
B
I
can
it's
something
that
was
debated
for
years
and
years
previously
we
had
the
mysteries,
the
science
fiction
books
and
the
western
genres
all
separated
out
into
their
own
little
silos,
and
over
the
years
it
was
discussed
about
merging
them
all
together
and
filing
them
together.
The
westerns
were
taken
care
of
a
few
years
ago.
I
guess
now.
We
are
this
week
in
the
process
of
putting
the
mysteries
and
the
science
fiction
within
the
regular
fiction.
B
We'll
still
keep
the
stickers
on
the
books
and
still
have
a
call
number,
I
believe,
for
mystery
or
science
fiction,
but
they'll
all
be
interfiled.
So
that
way
it
makes
it
easier
to
browse.
If
we
have
an
author
who
writes
in
more
than
one
genre
or
if
we've
had
cataloging
changes
over
the
years,
that
separated
some
series,
I
think
it
will
be
easier
for
people
to
browse
and
find
what
they're
looking
for
this
way.
A
A
B
B
One
in
england,
there
were
a
lot
of
women
whose
fiances
or
husbands
were
killed
in
the
war
and
they
weren't
supposed
to
be
really
independent,
but
yet
they
were
forced
into
that
position
and
some
of
them
were
happily
forced
into
that
position,
but
they
didn't
find
it
easy.
So
this
young
woman
violet
because
of
her
family
circumstances,
she
moved
to
winchester
where
the
cathedral
is
and
she
did
not
do
any
embroidery
or
craft
work.
But
she
fell
in
with
a
group
of
very
supportive
women
and
helped
create
the
cushions
in
winchester
cathedral.
B
Now
that's
based
on
I
mean
this
is
a
fictional
character,
but
based
on
an
actual
historical
happening,
beautiful
cushions
in
that
cathedral,
and
this
they
were
made
designed
and
then
created
by
this
group
as
a
side
story.
There's
a
story
about
the
men
who
worked
in
the
bell
tower
and
how
they
practiced
and
do
the
chimes.
So
that
was
also
interesting.
So
I
don't
know
if
this
is
technically
historical
fiction,
but
it
is
based
on
some
events
in
history
that
made
it
a
very
good
discussion
book.
A
B
All
of
that
what
I
like
and
when
I
look
for
a
good
book,
I
like
really
good
characters.
I
like
a
good
sense
of
place,
the
plot
not
so
important.
To
me,
I
mean
it
was
interesting
to
hear
or
to
read
about
these
things,
but
I
really
like
the
sense
of
place.
I
went
and
looked
up
winchester
cathedral.
Of
course
I'd
heard
about
it,
but
I
looked
for
images
and
I
I
liked
the
sense
of
place.
I
liked
the
characters.
They
were
complex
characters.
B
A
While
I
read
the
book,
so
it
really
put
me
right
there,
and
so
I
really
agree
with
you
about
that
sense
of
place,
although
I'm
a
non-fiction
person,
but
that
is
important
to
a
good
story.
The
one
book
that
well,
I
actually
brought
two
books
today.
The
the
first
book
that
I
want
to
tell
you
about
is
called
remember
it's
by
lisa
genova.
A
She
is
the
writer
of
the
book
still
alice,
which
you
might
have
remembered
from
the
movie
that
julianne
moore
was
in
yes.
So
this
is
mostly
about
like
the
brain
and
how
we
process
memory
so
that
there's
some
scientific
discussion
of
what
happens
when
you're
processing
those
memories
where
that's
happening
in
the
brain,
the
hippocampus,
how
memories
are
stored
and
kind
of
she
she
wants
to.
Let
people
know
that
certain
things
you
don't
have
to
worry
so
much
about
where
you
can't
find
a
word.
A
You
know
that
you're
looking
for
like
oh,
what
is
that
word
or
who
was
that
actor?
She
said
that's
very
normal
and
even
as
we
age
we
tend
to
think.
Oh,
is
this
a
sign
of
something
you
know
younger
people?
She
said:
don't
have
those
thoughts
because
they're
like
oh,
it's
whatever
I'm
young
and
they
don't
think
about
it.
But
as
people
get
older,
it's
a
natural
part
of
the
age
process
to
make
it
harder.
A
It's
harder
for
your
brain
to
remember
certain
things.
So
she
wanted
to
say
that
you
know
that
is
very
normal
and
she
talked
about
where,
if,
if
it's
starting
to
become
like
this
is
happening
like
many
multiple
times
a
day,
then
that's
when
it's
a
concern,
but
if
it's
something
that
just
happens
like
oh,
I
can't
remember
you
know
what
the
name
of
that
artist
is
it's
not
such
a
big
thing
to
be
concerned
about,
and
then
she
also
talked
about
how
your
memory
is
altered,
each
time
that
you
pull
it
up.
A
So
your
memory
is
not
as
clear
as
you
think,
because
every
time
you
pull
that
out
of
the
drawer,
your
brain
kind
of
re-saves
version,
2.0
version
3.0
and
it
alters
things,
and
it
got
me
thinking
about
how
people
go
to
court
and
their
witnesses,
and
they
they
have.
You
know
this
is
my
memory
of
the
event,
but
you
know
if
you've
gone
back
and
replayed
that
memory
several
times.
Maybe
it's
altered,
maybe
there's
a
another
person
that
wasn't
there
your
mind
can
play
tricks
on
you
and
we're
very
open
to
suggestion
as
well.
A
She
said
so
someone
can
say:
don't
you
remember,
we
found
that
kitten
out
back
and
you
might
think
well,
no,
I
don't,
but
then
you
start
thinking.
Well,
maybe
I
did
maybe
there.
I
do
remember
a
kitten
out
back,
okay,
so
we're
kind
of
suggestive
in
that
way.
So
it's
very
interesting
I
enjoyed
it
and
that
one
is
called
remember
by
lisa
genova
and
then
you
have
another
one
that
you
want
to
share.
I.
B
Do
and
now
I
have
another
one
for
my
list.
I
would
like
to
read
the
remember
book.
That's
a
really
interesting
topic
to
me
now.
This
tana
french
book
is
part
of
a
series
and
I
I
like
mystery
series.
I,
like
literary
fiction.
I
like
mystery
series
and
I
like
mystery
series
that
oh,
are
kind
of
procedural
or
investigative,
very
detailed,
complex,
but
also
with
a
little
bit
of
what
they
call
the
caper
aspect,
where
they
have
some
quirky
kind
of
funny
characters.
B
I
don't
want
to
go
through
the
whole
book
and
not
laugh
out
loud,
so
I
recently
discovered
tana
french
and
I
was
really
shocked.
I
had
not
known
about
her,
but
she
writes
a
series
of
mystery
books
set
in
dublin
and
they're
called
the
dublin
murder
squad
series.
She
also
writes
some
standalones
that
are
really
good
too,
but
I
really
liked
the
series.
B
B
B
I
used
to
read
cozy
mysteries
once
in
a
while.
I
still
do
especially
during
a
pandemic.
I
like
something
a
little
lighter,
but
these
books,
you
really
can
get
lost
in
lots
of
detail,
and
I
I
really
enjoyed
again.
I
couldn't
tell
you
probably
the
plot
on
any
of
them.
I
couldn't
tell
who
committed
the
murder
any
of
that,
but
I
do
remember
the
characters.
I
do
remember
the
sense
of
place
and
one
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
about
her,
which
I
felt
was
very
appropriate
since
they're
set
in
ireland.
B
For
example,
in
the
first
mystery
there
was
a
part
that
was
kind
of
like.
Is
that
a
little
tiny
bit
supernatural,
maybe
maybe
not?
But
in
each
book?
There's
a
little
tiny,
just
glimmer
of
that,
not
enough
to
put
you
off
if
you're,
not
a
reader
of
supernatural
or
it's
not
really
horror,
but
just
a
little
bit.
That
makes
you
go.
Oh
like
that.
So
I
liked
that.
B
Cozy
mystery
is
another
word
for
it,
for
me
is
fluff,
it's
very
light-hearted,
there's
a
body
in
the
corner,
but
nobody
really
cares.
It's
it's
all
about
some
fun
characters.
I'm
thinking
of
myers.
She
writes
a
series
of
mennonite
mysteries
that
are
they're
set
in
this
nice
little
bed
and
breakfast
and
sweet
characters,
fun,
stuff
and
yeah.
There
is
a
bad
person
who
murdered
somebody,
but
that's
kind
of
downplayed
sure.
A
Okay,
so
the
book
that
the
other
book
that
I
brought
is
called
hooked,
food
free
will
and
how
the
food
giants
exploit
our
addictions,
and
this
is
by
michael
moss.
He
is
a
pulitzer
prize-winning
journalist.
He
wrote
for
the
new
york
times,
so
I
will
be
honest
with
you
and
tell
you.
I
have
not
finished
this
book.
A
A
Our
brains
are
programmed
to
crave
those
because
you
know
before
we
have
this
time.
We
had
our
caveman
time
if
you
will
and
that
those
types
of
items
were
good
for
our
energy
stores
and
for
us
to
survive,
and
so
this
book
kind
of
delves
into
what
the
food
industry
does
as
far
as
like
processed
foods,
how
they
design
their
foods
to.
A
A
So
they
put
these.
You
know
extra
flavors
in
there
they
have
the
food
scientists
make
them
that
way
for
a
purpose,
and
that's
so
that
they
can
sell
more
of
their
product
and
they
don't
necessarily
they're
not
trying
to
push
it
in
the
same
way
that
cigarettes
are.
They
just
have
slowly
taken
over
the
food
aisles
in
the
supermarket
over
time.
It
wasn't
so
much
intentional.
A
Well,
I
think
that's
all
we
have
today
for
our
books,
cheryl.
I
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
the
podcast
and
talking
about
the
books
that
you
brought
today
and
then
welcoming
you
back
to
wpl.
It's
been
great
to
have
you
thank
you.
So
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listeners
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Thank
you.
Thank
you.