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A
C
A
D
A
B
Right,
thank
you.
Park
Zoo
seeks
the
ability
to
sell
and
serve
alcohol
beverages
for
consumption
at
the
zoo
facility
during
the
sunset
Safari
event.
Bar
Tavern
is
a
listen
conditional
use
to
the
c2
zone,
/
2100
and
2603
4
and
other
uses
may
be
allowed,
which,
in
the
opinion
of
the
board
of
the
jessamine,
is
the
same
general
character
as
those
listed
in
and
I
read
the
purpose.
The
lake
areas
dua
Zoological
Society
fundraisers,
proposed
to
be
held.
Friday
June,
26
2015
from
7:00
p.m.
to
9:30
p.m.
this
board
approved
conditional
use.
B
Permit
number
one:
five,
three
nine
three:
four,
a
similar
Lake
area,
Zoological
Society
fundraiser
held
last
year
on
6
2014
Randall
Park
Zoo,
is
currently
zoned.
A1
agricultural
district
conditional
use
approval
is
contingent
on
Plan
Commission
and
City
Council
approval
of
temporary
rezoning
a
specified
portion
of
the
facility
from
a1
to
c2.
To
allow
for
this
use.
B
The
property
would
automatically
revert
back
to
a1
zoning
with
no
further
action
after
the
date
and
time
specified
above
contingent
upon
upon
approvals
for
rezoning
and
condition
used
by
the
Planning
Commission
City
Council
and
the
Board
of
Adjustment
respectively.
The
zoo
must
also
seek
City
Council
approval
for
some
special
malt,
whatever
beverage
retailers
license.
For
this
event,
the
board
must
decide
if
the
request
is
in
harmony
with
purpose
intent
of
the
ordinance,
if
endorsed
the
board
may
considered,
requiring
conditions
of
rule.
A
Thank
you
that
I'll
open
the
public
hearing,
if
anyone's
here,
to
speak
on
behalf
or
against
the
conditional
use.
Can
this
one
last
year,
when
it
came
up,
we
had
some
reservations.
We
we
we
allowed
allowed
it
anyways
did
we
we
make
the
request
that
it
be
for
a
three
year
rather
than
annual
AF.
Last
year,.
B
A
D
E
A
A
F
They
really
followed
through
on
that
I
think
there
wasn't
an
issue
at
all
on
Friday
night,
that
was
the
adult
night
and
then
free
to
the
kids
the
next
day
and
and
they
had
a
lot
of
cultural
stuff.
So
it
really
is
I
mean
I,
suppose
the
caveat
of
having
a
liquor.
There
is
not
not
so
good,
but
it
also
is.
It
seemed
to
work
okay,
so
I.
A
B
Have
the
three
times
and
dates
here:
I
think
I'll,
just
read
them
off
quick.
Just
in
a
matter
of
record
of
a
6:00
p.m.
on
Friday
June
26
2015
tell
10:30
p.m.
on
Friday
June
26
6
o'clock
p.m.
on
Friday
June
24
2016
2,
10:30
p.m.
on
Friday
June
24th
and
6:00
p.m.
on
Friday
June,
23
2017
to
10:30
p.m.
on
Friday,
June,
23
2017.
B
A
A
G
A
B
B
Currently,
this
plaited
lot
located
in
the
Arwen's
single-family
residential
district
consists
of
a
compliant
primary
structure.
Single-Family
dwelling
an
attached
garage
and
a
non
compliant
lawn
shed.
A
two
thousand
six
hundred
sixty
square
foot
legible
buildable
area
exist
on
this
parcel
for
accessory
structures.
The
that
property
currently
complies
with
the
boulevard
grass
and
tree
requirements.
B
A
B
A
For
just
for
a
note,
can
ask
me
to
say
that
the
two
variance
requests
we're
looking
at
are
very
similar,
they're
three
foot
setbacks
on
detached
garage
at
the
lake,
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
knew
that
it
looked
like
to
me
when
I
went
out
and
looked
at
this
one
was
there
a
girl.
Was
there
already
a
shed
where
this
garage
is
that
yeah.
H
H
A
H
B
Red
line
shows
here,
I
believe
the
property
line
is
probably
a
little
bit
for
the
north
of
this,
so
we're
just
throwing
there
these
Lots
at
the
lake,
the
parcels
from
the
first
district.
It
only
takes
to
be
a
little
bit
to
be
off.
I
want
part
of
like
to
throw
it
off
on
the
other
side
of
lake,
so
the
property
lines
probably
learn
more
along
the
edge
of
the
concrete
here
than
what
you're
seeing
on
there.
My.
A
Concern
when
we
get
near
these
lot
lines
with
the
garages
as
always
where's
your
water
running,
where's
the
snow
piling
up
and
that
we're
not
infringing
on
the
neighbor
any
more
than
necessary.
What
can
you
tell
me
about
the
drainage
as
it
comes
off
the
bill?
Also,
the
peak
of
that
building
is
running
that
was
at
the
same
peak
or
your.
So
yours
will
go.
The
new
building
will
have
the
same.
H
H
B
H
But
they
also
don't
already
have
graduates,
that's
very
true,
and
but
they
don't
live
there
all
year
either,
but
one
the
guy
to
the
north.
Nobody
went
in
that
house
whole
summer
and
the
people
of
the
south
live
in
Des,
Moines,
Iowa
and
Kansas
City
Missouri.
So
they
don't
they're,
not
year-round.
Residents
like
we
are
do.
A
You
intend
to
put
gutters
on
the
side
that
you're
infringing
on
that.
That's
always
another
question.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
all
that
water
is
being
handled
best
possible.
Any
other
questions
for
him.
Anybody
down
I,
always
look
at
30
I,
see
where
you're
30
the
depth
of
it
doesn't
mean
anything.
You
know,
I
can
be
a
that
really
isn't
the
the
encroachment
it's
the
the
30
foot
width
and
we've
talked
about
it
before
that
that
30
width,
your
garage
doors,
I,
assume,
are
going
to
face
the
road.
A
Yes
and
that's
where
I
don't
know
if
we've
seen
a
whole
lot
of
garages
inside
of
that
30,
you
know,
and
people
come
in,
want
to
put
two
full-size
cars
in
there
and
open
their
doors
and
move
around
and
the
main
reason
I
guess
for
the
record
for
me
as
I'd
like
to
see
that
over
a
little
further.
But
if
I
see
trees,
if
I
see
a
concrete
driveway,
you
have
to
go
around
if
I
see
you
know
gas
lines
and
things
like
that
to
me.
C
And
I
think
we've
been
asked
this
several
times
over
the
years
on
these
50
foot
wide
Lots
that
people
want
to
put
additions
or
garages
on
and
they're
somewhat
limited
and
where
they
can
put
them
yeah
be
nicer
to
have
more
than
three
feet
there,
but
if
you're
not
draining
onto
your
neighbor
and
that
water
is
running,
you
know
onto
the
lot
line
away
from
your
house
and
not
up
against
the
neighbors
foundation
to
the
lake.
We're
not
creating
a
problem.
A
And
the
tricky
part
is
we
have
a.
We
have
a
minimum
lot
with
the
75
feet,
with
a
nine
foot
setback,
so
we
came
in
and
we
said
on
a
lot
smaller
than
that.
We're
gonna
make
a
concession
for
six
feet
and
which
generally
works
unless
there's
an
obstacle
on
one
side
that
doesn't
allow
them
to
Center
it,
and
you
know,
in
this
case
it's
a
driveway
getting
to
the
rest
of
the
property.
A
That's
on
that
side,
if
it's,
if
you
consider
it
an
obstacle,
that's
the
difference
between
this
one
and
just
allowing
them
to
shift
it
anywhere.
They
want,
but
it's
my
opinion
anyway
for
the
record.
Anyone
else
have
anything
for
the
open
and
I'll
close
the
open
with
that
I'll
close
the
open
s
for
emotion
in
a
second
for
further
discussion.
H
A
A
B
Yes,
this
application
for
building
permit
number
one
six
zero.
Two
three
application
was
submitted
requested
to
construct
a
non-conforming
1,200
square
foot
40
by
30,
an
attached
garage
says,
structure
proposed
to
be
constructed
three
feet
from
the
side,
north
property
line,
where
six-foot
is
required.
B
Currently,
this
plat
a
lot
located
on
the
r1
single-family
residential
district,
consists
of
a
compliant
primary
structure.
Single-Family
dwelling
an
attached
garage,
the
requested
structures
proposed
to
have
water
and
sewer
hookups
for
a
half
bath
in
a
northeast
corner,
a
9000
690
where
foot
and
legible
legal
billable
area
exists
on
this
parcel
for
accessory
structures.
B
B
I
gotta
clean
this
overhead.
The
red
line
here
should
actually
be
down
here.
Even
with
this,
with
this
chunk
of
concrete
here
again
at
the
lake,
those
conduct
and
parcels
don't
always
follow
where
they're
supposed
to
be
again
because
there's
a
circle-
and
you
just
got
to
be
off
a
little
bit-
throws
it
off
along
way
the
other
way
so
where
it
shows
here.
Actually
it's
clear
over
here
again
for
the
driveway.
B
A
J
J
J
A
J
A
I
can
see
the
one
where
you
the
gravel
driveway.
He
wants
it
as
close
to
the
concrete
driveway,
so
he
doesn't
have
to
give
up
any
of
his
yard
to
drive
on
to
turn
into
driveway
and
I
can
see
why
the
guy
with
a
cement
driveway
wants
it
as
far
back
as
possible,
because
he
doesn't
want
to
uptight
near
the
house,
which.
I
With
particularly
the
lake
properties
is
because
they
are
frequently
narrow,
narrow
and
width
is
kind
of
what
the
aesthetics
of
that
neighborhood
look
like,
and
that
was
one
thing
that
that
stood
out
to
me.
As
far
as
you
know
that
having
the
garage
so
close
to
the
road
and
I
was
wondering
why
you
wouldn't.
D
I
It
back
farther,
but
I
guess
I
can
understand
now
what
with
the
the
water
you
know
flow
and
whatnot
that
that
might
be
the
best
location
for
it,
even
though
it's
a
little
unusual
relative
to
even
from
that,
even
from
that
aerial
photograph,
you
can
see
that
most
the
buildings
are
closer
to
the
lake
side.
So
ya
know.
J
A
G
A
E
A
A
L
L
L
A
First
item
is
the
approval
of
the
agenda.
I
need
a
motion
in
a
second
motion
motion
by
mr.
Dahle
second
by
mr.
stone
burger
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
motion.
Carries
second
item.
Is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
March
19
2015,
meeting
motion
and
second
motion
by
mr.
Arnold
second
by
mr.
stone,
burger
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
motion.
Carries
third
item?
Is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
March
30th
2015
motion
by
mr.
stone
burger
second
by
mr.
Dahle,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
motion
carries
third.
L
As
you
guys
remember,
this
plat
was
brought
forward
last
month
to
you
guys
requesting
approval
at
that
meeting.
You
guys
did
recommend
approving
it.
It
was
a
kondal
plat.
You
did
recommend
approving
it
and
the
first
meeting
this
of
the
first
City
Council
meeting
of
this
month.
We
asked
the
City
Council
to
approve
the
plat,
and
one
concern
that
they
had
is
that
there
was
landscape
requirements
that
that
were
part
of
the
conditions
of
the
first
owner
that
had
it
that
were
never
fulfilled,
and
so
they
wanted.
L
They
wanted
me
to
bring
it
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
to
to
discuss
those
requirements
that
they
did
end
up,
approving
the
plats
we're
not
holding
up
that
process,
but
they
did
want
to
talk
about
the
requirements
that
were
missing,
which
were
21.7
303
standards
for
landscaping,
materials,
point
B,
there's
a
minimum
tree
requirement.
The
minimum
number
of
trees
to
be
located
on
the
development
site
shall
be
one
tree
per
50
feet
of
frontage.
L
As
you
can
see
there,
there
are
no
trees
item
number
two
21.7
305
Boulevard,
slash
public
right
away,
landscaping,
requirement
item
two:
there
shall
be
a
minimum
width
of
fifteen
feet
of
grass
adjacent
to
the
public
street
and
they
they
made
the
whole
street
a
driveway
access
which
they
weren't
supposed
to
to
do.
They're
supposed
to
have
the
address
and
item
number
three
is
eighteen
point:
Oh
306,
City
Engineer
must
approve.
Sidewalks
shall
be
required
for
all
new
construction
after
the
effective
date
of
this
ordinance,
and
it's
they
don't
really
have
a
sidewalk.
L
They
just
can
I
have
all
driveway,
and-
and
this
is
a
discussion
to
to
ask
the
Planck
mission,
how
would
you
guys
want
us
to
to
proceed
when
something
like
this
happens
when,
when
this
was
issued?
A
conditional
use?
You
note
or
a
variance
excuse
me
to
be
sat
closer
than
the
required
front
yard
setback
and
then
part
of
the
that
variance
as
we
you
know,
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
did
do
the
necessary
landscaping.
L
A
D
A
A
What
can
we
do
if
they
come
before
us
for
any
other
type
of
development?
And
the
third
thing
is:
is
what
prevents
them
from
selling
it
to
somebody
like
they
did
and
saying
that
the
next
owner
washes
his
hands
of
it
and
says
I
didn't
know
anything
about
it.
You
know
because
we've
said
we
don't
make
him
uphold
the
landscaping
ordinances
unless
they
change
the
footprint.
So
here
we
sit
and
wait.
D
C
B
If
we
give
you,
hopefully
we
just
start
backing
us
up
some
letting
this
trigger
it
and
make
it
happen
yeah,
but
the
behind
fines
are
pretty
stiff
for
what
this
is
I
mean
I,
say
I,
believe
and
I
better,
not
quoted
cuz
I'll
be
wrong,
so
I'm
gonna
stay
away,
but
the
signs
are
pretty
stiff.
That
could
be
wrong,
assessed
against
this
and
that's
why
they've
kind
of
never
really
backed
up
to
it,
but
yeah
I'm
sure.
If
we
just
serve
a
letter
notice,
an
order
that
you're
non-compliant
and
file
it
with
the
deed.
C
If
I
remember
right,
when
the
previous
owner
came
brought
this
before
us,
he
wanted
to
develop
the
property
to
the
west
and
put
another
building
over
there,
and
we
had
a
little
bit
of
probably
a
lot
of
concern
with
allowing
him
to
do
that
until
he
met
the
requirements
of
this
building,
and
we
had
quite
a
lengthy
discussion.
I,
remember
and
I
think
it
could
have
been
fulfilled
pretty
easily.
With
a
light
pole
there,
where
it's
dark
by
just
widening
a
little
bit,
putting
a
little
grass
and
the
tree
on
the
other
corner.
D
K
C
Probably
use
the
building,
but
as
I
recall,
that
meeting
came
or
that
agenda
item
came
to
a
pretty
abrupt
ending
and
he
just
left
and
nothing
pursued
on
anyway,
and
the
property
went
up
for
sale.
Am
I
correct
for
you?
They
were
here
at
that
meeting?
Is
that
kind
of
how
it
transpired?
And
now
it's
come
back
to
us
again
by
a
new
owner.
Well.
B
M
And
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you're
aware
the
plan
the
plat
was
approved
and
the
council
didn't
seem
to
have
any
interest
in
slowing
down
or
harming
the
current
owner
in
any
way.
But
you
had
requirements
for
the
previous
owner
that
weren't
met
and
I
told
Jeff
not
to
pull
this
off,
because
I
just
wanted
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
how
you
felt
about
what
you
think.
If
you
remember
do
we
have
a
list
of
what
the
requirements
were,
which
ones
were
critical
and
what
can
we
still
do?
A
M
B
A
M
A
They've
met
the
requirement
now
on
the
other
side
of
it
is
we
also
have
to
take
a
look
at
what
our
current.
Let's
say,
the
person
owns
that
he
doesn't
have
an
an
intention
to
sell
it,
and
we've
got
the
lien
set
on
it.
We
still
need
to
have
another
another
vehicle
to
make
him
uphold
to
what
he
said.
He
was
going
to
pull
the
conditional
use
if
we
needed
to
fine,
but
you
know:
if
fines
can,
you
think
are
so.
D
H
B
Sorry,
I
wasn't
more
prepared
for
this
one
because
I
didn't
realize
it
gonna
be
a
discussion,
but
I
think
we
need
to.
Let
me
pull
everything
out
of
the
ordinance
specifically
say:
this
is
what
our
order
says.
We
can
do
now
and
we
look
at
that
and
see
if
that's
applicable
or
isn't
gonna
be
changed
or
we
need
to
put
something
else
to
it
and
we'll
bring
that
up.
No.
A
I
think
if
we
got
any
out
there,
we
put
liens
on
them
or
a
deed
restriction,
so
they
can't
be
sold
until
they
do
what
they
said
they
were
doing.
In
the
meantime,
we
should
take
a
look
at
what
our
current
procedures
are
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
something
that's
enforceable,
otherwise,
there's
no
way
to
make
people
uphold
of
the
building
permits.
They
agreed
to
any
other
questions.
F
A
N
One
point:
there's
a
couple:
okay,
two
points.
Sorry
first
thing:
one
one
option
that
you
would
have
in
the
future
as
far
as
conditions,
issues
like
this
and
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
staff
what's
into
and
when
permits
or
issues
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
oftentimes
community
communities
will
send
a
letter
that
is
also
kept
in
file
and
records.
So
you've
got
a
certified
mail
that
says
that
that
applicant,
whoever
was
granted
a
permit
for
a
conditional
use
or
what-have-you,
has
received
and
is
well
aware
of
those
facts.
N
Yes,
they
were
sitting
in
front
of
you,
but
they've
got
that.
The
other
point
that
I
would
say
is
that
it's
entirely
possible
from
experiences
that
I've
seen
in
other
communities.
You
is
that
the
the
hammer
I
guess
to
make
that
happen,
unfortunately
may
wind
up
having
to
be
the
city
or
during
those
changes
being
done,
and
then
that
going
back
to
being
a
civil
matter
in
between
the
two
property
owners,
the
one
that's
sold
and
the
one
that
the
purchase
did.
Hopefully
that's
not
where
you
have
to
go
but
I've
seen
in
the
past.
A
C
Yeah
look,
it
seems
to
me
if
you,
if
you're,
going
to
get
a
building
permit,
and
there
are
certain
requirements
that
are
spelled
out
and
you're
expected
to
do,
and
you
haven't
done
them
and
you
sell
that
property,
and
now
the
new
owner
gets
hooked
for
it.
I
would
think
the
previous
owner
has
some
has
some
response.
N
C
N
That's
what
I'm,
yeah
I
think
you're
right,
that's
where
we've
usually
seen
it,
but
it's
usually,
unfortunately,
the
person
that
the
new
or
new
owner
gets
the
notice
and
he
gets
the
nasty
Graham
and
then
he's
on
the
hook
and
then
they've
got
to
go
back
to
the
previous
owner.
I,
don't
know
if
there's
another
way.
Hopefully
there
is,
but
just
what
I've
seen
before.
A
L
Okay,
this
is
the
same
event
that
the
board
of
adjustment
just
granted
conditional
use
for
currently
this
property
is
zoned.
Agricultural
and
agricultural
does
not
allow
the
bar
or
tavern
conditional
use
that
the
c2
district
allows.
So
the
petitioner
is
requesting
that
this
property
be
temporary
Laoghaire
zoned
on
Friday
June,
26
2015
from
6:00
to
10:30
p.m.
on
Friday
June,
24
2016
from
6:00
to
10:30
p.m.
and
on
Friday
June,
23rd
2017
from
6:00
to
10:30
p.m.
this
adjacent
landowner.
Letters
were
noticed
for
this
rezone
and
didn't
hear
back
from
any
of
them.
G
D
A
L
A
N
N
A
A
L
Okay,
this
property
outlined
here
in
blue
was
annexed
in
2007.
At
that
time
it
was
not
given
a
zoning
designation
and
now
the
petitioner
is
requesting
that
it
be
zoned
C
3,
highway
commercial.
As
you
can
see,
it's
adjacent
to
C
3
on
multiple
sides.
It's
also
adjacent
to
i1
our
comprehensive
Land
Use
Plan
has
this
area
as
being
commercial.
So
that's
it's
consistent.
There
has
not
been
a
preliminary
plan
approved
for
this
area,
and
this
area
contains
about
24
acres
that
all
you
guys
discussed
it
I.
A
L
E
When
back
when
Willow
Creek
Drive,
where
First
Avenue
was
being
constructed,
what's
now
Willow
Creek
Drive,
the
city
came
to
the
fore
property
owners,
they
the
co-owners
Andrey's
the
Morris
family,
and
there
was
a
owner
from
Sioux
Falls
and
told
them
that
that
the
city
would
take
all
the
steps
necessary
to
annex
as
much
of
their
property
as
they
wanted
and
would
also
rezone
it
if
they
wanted.
But
we
needed
to
at
least
annex
it
to
a
depth.
So
it
was
a
buildable
lot.
E
So,
on
either
side
of
the
street,
we
were
gonna
annex,
at
least
at
a
minimum,
to
a
depth
of
a
buildable
lot
and
the
Morris
family.
When,
when
the
city
made
its
offer
to
rezone
it
to
to
whatever
designation
they
wanted,
we
assumed
it
would
be
i1
or
c3.
Just
said.
We
don't
know
how
the
property
is
going
to
develop.
We
don't
want
to.
E
A
L
A
L
M
Concept
plan
doesn't
have
to
come
to
the
plan
commission.
It
can
just
go
straight
from
the
City
Engineer
back
to
the
developer
or
the
applicant
for
comments.
Actually,
we
don't
even
have
to
convene
a
design
review
team
meeting
if
the
engineer
doesn't
feel
it's
necessary.
I
feel
it's
necessary
and
I
wanted
to
share
the
findings
that
the
DRT
committee
had
with
you.
M
Since
we
had
a
lot
of
findings
and
we
are
kind
of
asking
a
lot
for
the
preliminary
plan
and
I
just
wanted
to
go
through
that,
so
that
when
you
see
the
preliminary
plan,
you
at
least
have
a
little
bit
of
background
of
of
what
the
design
review
team
was
thinking
when
those
comments
were
made.
So
if
you
can
okay
I.
M
M
They
can
come
through
with
a
traditional
plat
and
show
you
the
all
the
required
information,
and
you
would
come
up
with
some
recommendations
for
physical
street
improvements
and
that
sort
of
thing,
if
we
didn't
have
a
preliminary
plan
and
then
that
would
go
to
the
full
council
for
review
and
approval,
the
council
doesn't
see
normally
the
plat.
They
would
see
the
development
agreement,
which
includes
what
they're
gonna
build
and
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
and
who's
going
to
pay
for
it
and
when,
but
they
don't
approve
the
plat
per
se.
M
If
there's
an
approved
preliminary
plan
in
this
case,
there's
not
so
we
know
they're
working
on
revising
and
updating
a
preliminary
plan
and
we
received
a
concept
plan
which
only
showed
part
of
the
roads
that
were
included
in
the
original
preliminary
plan
that
was
approved.
This
is
the
concept
plan
that
we
received
and
there's
nothing
shown
east
of
Willow,
Creek
Drive
and,
as
in
the
other
preliminary
plan,
there's
nothing
shown
on
the
morris
property,
and
so
the
design
review
team
has
some
comments
about
that.
M
M
We
know
where
the
signal
is
expected
to
go
where
the
s
DDOT
has
told
us.
The
signal
will
go
is
on
23rd
Street
and
whether
we
agree
with
that
or
not
that's.
What
they've
told
us
and
we
have
planted
road
leading
to
that
signal,
and
so
the
design
review
team
felt
pretty
strongly
that
we
need
to
have
a
way
that
the
traffic
gets
to
the
signal
and
not
just
from
Willow
Creek
through
here
or
we're
gonna
have
people
cutting
across
to
the
Walmart
area
in
a
none
signalized
intersection.
M
The
DoD
has
asked
for
a
traffic
impact,
study
and
I.
Don't
know
this
for
a
fact,
but
I
wonder
if
they
don't
think
that
signal
is
wrongly
placed
at
23rd
and
might
more
appropriately
be
placed
at
26th
and
if
that's
the
case,
everything
changes
with
this
preliminary
plan,
because
then
we
want
the
through
route
to
go
to
26th
Street.
But
we
don't
know
that
at
this
point,
what
the
DoD
has
told
us
is
that
the
traffic
signal
goes
at
23rd,
so
we
feel
there
needs
to
be
a
direct
route
from
Willow
Creek
Drive
to
23rd.
M
G
Do
T
says:
there's
only
gonna
be
two
accesses
out
of
there
on
two
to
1226
and
23rd,
and
right
now,
there's
only
be
one:
stop
sign,
that'll
be
on
23rd
for
stock
plate,
and
so
they
want
to
discourage
traffic
right
now
on
26th
right.
They
don't
want
to
have
it
run
through
all
the
way
up
to
Willow
right.
A
M
M
This
they've
asked
for
a
traffic
impact
study.
They
did
not
ask
for
a
traffic
impact
study
at
23rd
and
I.
Think
that's
because
the
traffic
impact
study
might
say
the
worst
thing
it
could
do
is
say
you
need
a
signal.
Well,
we
already
know
we're
putting
a
signal
there.
There's
no
need
to
do
a
traffic
impact
study.
If
you
assume
the
signals
going
there,
it
may
say
you
also
need
a
signal
here,
particularly
if
we
have
a
direct
route
through
for
people
to
cut
through.
M
M
M
A
M
C
M
M
Are
drawn
on
the
property
line
if
they
don't
want
them
on
the
property
line,
I
don't
care
where
they
are.
My
point:
is
they
connect
from
Willow
Creek
Drive
to
here
how
you
get
between
the
doesn't
matter?
It's
the
through
route,
though,
because
that
ends
at
the
signal
anything
else
comes
off
by
making
a
stop
and
a
turn
do.
C
M
A
long
day,
I
definitely
think
they
will
allow
it
they
I
think
are
struggling
with,
should
they
require
a
signal
replace
their
I
think.
Otherwise,
why
do
you
want
a
traffic
impact
study?
And
you
know
that's
a
fairly
big
thing
to
ask
for
and
it
it's
it's
looking
at
the
whole
area.
It's
not
looking
at
the
one
lot.
That's
gonna
put
the
road
in
because
and
just
like
you're
planning,
you
can't
be
looking
at
one
or
two
Lots.
You
need
to
look
at
the
whole
area.
How
does
this
work?
M
A
So
some
sort
of
a
movement
there,
so
at
this
point
in
the
concept
plan,
we're
basically
you're,
basically
just
saying
that
the
roads
we
don't
know
where
the
roads
are
going
to
be
plus
or
minus.
They
have
to
hook
onto
the
road
that
goes
over
to
23rd
and
they
have
to
move
through
that
area
somewhere,
but
not
a
straight
run.
M
Or
sell,
throw
giving
us
the
concept
plan
and
coho
I
expect
we'll
submit
a
preliminary
plan
for
your
approval
and
what
the
DRT
is
saying.
Is
it
shouldn't
just
be
the
preliminary
plan
for
their
property
shouldn't
just
show
this
road.
It
should
show
the
whole
network
of
how
it
works
in
here
and
if
they
don't
want
to
draw
it
on
here,
we
will
draw
that
in
the
mayor
has
already
directed
the
staff
to
to.
G
Really
need
a
66-foot
right
away
as
a
minimum,
because
that
will
give
us
as
planners
the
option
of
saying
how
wide
you
want
this
street.
How
do
you?
Why
do
you
want
that
street
I'd
rather
have
the
larger
right
away
now,
so
we
have
the
option
of
producing
in
the
future.
If
the
need
is
there,
I
mean
we've
seen
some
streets
down
there
by
Hardee's
that
had
80
foot
right
away.
G
Apparently
that's
what
they
used
to
require
was
an
80
foot
right
away,
and
now
you
know
we're
coming
we're
seeing
them
out
of
the
60
foot
that
doesn't
really
give
a
time
or
space
to
put
in
a
5
foot
sidewalk
a
6
foot,
Boulevard
and
adequate
Street,
so
I
think
we
need
to
reacquire
as
a
minimum.
The
66.
A
M
These
streets
would
not
be
expected
to
have
any
parking
on
them.
They'll
have
internal
off
street
parking
lots
for
the
businesses,
but
they're.
You
know
you
would
expect
a
center
turn
lanes
so
that
people
can
get
out
of
the
flow
and
wait
for
an
opening
to
make
a
turn
into
a
business,
and
that
that
does
you
know,
makes
a
pretty
wide
road.
M
M
Surface,
but
it
also
is
cumulative
for
a
development.
So
this,
obviously
even
if
one
lot
came
in
with
less
than
an
acre,
the
development
itself
is
going
to
trigger
that
requirement.
It's
also
a
detention
requirement
which
we're
not
recommending
that
we
put
detention
here,
because
we
know
this
is
part
of
a
much
larger
watershed
and
holding
the
peak
back
here
actually
exacerbates
the
peak
on
Willow
Creek
proper.
If
we
detain
water,
this
Willow
Creek
goes
a
long
way
out
into
the
country,
and
its
peak
takes
a
long
time
to
get
here.
M
So
we
we
want
these
Peaks
to
go
out
as
long
as
there's
downstream
capacity
and
the
only
time
that
we
wouldn't
do
that
in
this
Willow
Creek
Basin
is
where
we
have
identified
areas
that
do
not
have
capacity.
We
do
have
locations
like
that
up
and
down
to
twelve,
where
we've
identified
issues
and
we've
recommended
detention,
mostly
on
the
other
side
of
of
the
freeway
that
so
the
water
can
be
detained
to
get
underneath
the
freeway
without
flooding
areas
out.
M
But
in
this
area
we
don't
have
any
facilities,
we're
planning
them
now
and
what
I'm
saying
is
we're
going
to
put
in
our
facilities
like
we
always
do,
but
we're
gonna
reserve
the
path
and
easement
wide
enough
for
up
to
a
hundred
year
event
to
pass
safely
through
without
flooding.
Anybody
out
and
I
think
that
comment
is
made
further
down,
but
so
anyway,
water
quality
facilities
should
be
shown
on
the
preliminary
plan.
M
The
trip
typical
Street
section
that
they
proposed
showed
nine
inches
I,
think
a
base
course
and
the
DRT
said
we
should
stick
with
our
11
inches
of
base.
That
has
been
our
commercial
and
industrial
standard,
even
though
this
area
might
have
good
material
in
the
ground.
That's
been
our
standard
for
years.
We
don't
want
to
cut
back
on
it.
M
M
A
D
A
D
M
Number
eight
on
our
minutes
of
from
the
DRT
meeting
or
the
utility
easements,
and
we
have
some
standard
easements
that
are
spelled
out
in
our
subdivision,
ordinance
ten
feet
on
the
front
10
feet
on
the
rear.
If
it's
abutting
another
lot
and
then
additionally,
municipal
utilities
wanted
five
more
feet
on
the
sides.
That's
a
lot
of
easements,
sir.
M
C
F
F
M
M
D
M
M
Delivery
but
I
mean
that's
a
that's,
often
a
dilemma:
we
we,
hopefully
they
would
give
easements
and
you
know
if
we
come
up
with
a
nice
plan.
Maybe
the
Morrises
will
like
it
want
to
move
forward
to
that
I
think
if
development
started
out
here,
they'd
be
interested
I,
don't
think
they
want
to
take
well.
F
D
F
M
The
natural
flow
does
go
across
Morris's
property,
so
not
that
they
would
want
to
say
this,
but
the
downstream
property
owner
cannot
say
you
can't
drain
across
my
property,
but
they
could
say
you
got
to
detain
it,
we're
not
making
them,
detain
it
we're
making
them
treat
it
with
water
quality
facilities
which
are
much
smaller
than
detention
structures,
and
if,
if
that
was
an
issue
here,
that
is
something
they
could
do.
And
hopefully
we
won't
have
that
issue.
M
M
M
Not
necessarily
because
the
I
mean
they've,
given
us
what
what's
being
proposed
and
we're
commenting
on
that
that
that's
what
the
purpose
of
the
design
review
team
convening
for
a
concept
plan
review
is
and
I
don't
want
it.
I,
don't
even
need
to
have
that
meeting
if
I
don't
want
it.
I
can
talk
directly
with
the
engineer
if
I
want
questions
answered.
M
The
purpose
of
the
concept
review
is,
for
the
city
engineer,
to
gather
comments
from
other
staff
members
to
pass
on
to
the
applicant
about
their
project
on
things
that
the
city
engineer
would
like
to
see
in
the
preliminary
plan.
Now
they
don't
have
to
address
them.
If,
if
there's
something
on
there,
they
disagree
with,
they
can
say
that
we
didn't
want
to
do
that.
We
disagree,
but,
as
the
city
engineer,
I
would
tell
you.
M
C
I
guess
and
all
I'm
all
I'm
getting
at
and
leading
to
is
that
I
hope
we're
involving
because
once
that
design
review
team
has
done
and
comes
up
with
with
your
ideas
and
your
suggestions
and
everything
else,
I
hope
at
that
point.
We've
had
a
lot
of
input
from
from
the
developer
or
the
engineer.
Those
people
out
there
that
have
take
that
and.
M
M
No
well,
we
that's
not
what
we
don't
have
any
intention
of
constricting
it
in
any
way.
The
the
purpose
of
the
review
is
to
identify
things
that
should
be
shown
on
the
preliminary
plan
and
most
of
the
time
they're
already
required
in
our
code
and,
for
instance,
we're
supposed
to
see
it
says
in
our
code.
We
need
to
see
how
these
these
proposed
Platts
connect
up
with
neighboring
properties
and
for
the
orderly.
We
don't
see
that
on
the
concept
plan.
D
M
Is
that
we
get
a
plan,
a
preliminary
plan
which
is
approvable
the
first
time
around
it
doesn't
have
to
come
back
with
revisions
before
it's
approved.
So
if
we
can
go
through,
we
just
take
our
ordinance
book
at
the
concept
plan
review
and
we
go
through
it
point
by
point:
have
they
addressed
this?
Have
they
addressed
this?
Have
they
addressed
this
and
if
they
haven't,
we
make
that
comment.
So
then
they
have.
You
know,
kind
of
a
heads
up.
C
If
it's
a
and
I
appreciate
that
I'm,
just
just
one
example
and
I,
just
think
the
more
input
you
can
get,
the
better,
that's
always
been
the
case.
The
more
input
you
can
get
the
better,
but
just
one
example,
wherever
that
connector
street,
whether
it's
23rd
or
26
and
wherever
it
connects
the
Willow
Creek
at
this
point,
we've
probably
kind
of
dictated
or
we
we
have
a
feeling
of
where
we
think
it
should
go.
But
if
I
were
the
developer
and
and
the
neighbor
to
the
east
did
not
want
do
anything
with
his
property.
C
D
C
M
We
don't
good
to
have
their
input,
we
don't
yeah
and
we
don't.
We
don't
care
where
these
roads
go
or
our
point
and
putting
them
on
paper
is
that
we
need
a
network
that
shows
how
do
cars
get
from
Willow
Creek
Drive
to
the
signal,
and
this
road
doesn't
need
to
be
here,
but
we
know
they
want
it
here.
So.
M
C
C
M
It
the
way
they
want
it
if
they've,
given
us
a
blank
sheet,
we
can't
just
go
with
that,
because
we
need
to
show
where
the
roads
go
through
and
if
they
haven't
defined,
that
the
planners
need
to
define
it
and
we're
giving
you
the
plan
Commission,
the
DRT
is
giving
you.
This
is
where
we
think
it
would
work
all.
M
About
drainage
paths
a
little
bit,
we
need
to
show
those
anytime.
You
concentrate
flow
that
used
to
come
across
in
a
sheet.
You
know
just
on
Barrett
undeveloped,
land.
It's
it's
not
concentrating
into
a
stream.
If
you
outlet
at
a
pipe
now,
you've
got
a
stream
and
that's
going
to
contain
a
stream.
It's
not
going
to
spread
back
out.
So
we
need
to
define
where
that
path
is
all
the
way
to
the
creek
and
get
an
easement
for
it,
and
that
can
be
changed
in
the
future.
M
But
at
least
we
have
a
path
that
can't
be
blocked
until
they
change
it.
The
grading
plan
is
a
normal
part
of
a
preliminary
plan
and
of
course,
they
don't
need
to
give
us
the
grading
plan
with
a
concept
plan
and
they
didn't.
But
the
comment
was
made.
We
need
to
see
the
grading
plan
and
it
should
show
existing
and
proposed
contours.
So
the.
A
M
The
only
thing
and
the
access
locations-
that's
from
me,
we
have
in
the
past,
made
recommendations
about
where
access,
where
driveways
will
be
allowed
in
the
future
on
commercial
areas.
We
don't
do
this
on
residential,
usually,
but
for
like
the
Walmart
area,
when
we
did
the
preliminary
plan
for
that
area,
it
was
defined
by
the
Plan
Commission
ahead
of
time,
where
every
driveway
was
going
to
go
approximately
and
they
can
change
them
a
little
bit,
but
it.
A
M
As
where
are
those
ingress
andros,
we
have
a
general
understanding
here
of
where
they
should
go
and
I
use
the
South
Dakota
access
location
criteria
as
a
guide,
and
they
say
two
driveways
per
block
face.
They
don't
define
a
block
length.
Their
blocks
are
gigantic.
Here,
1500
feet
two
driveways
per
1,500.
What.
M
M
Moves
in
the
the
driveway
spacing
is
pretty
important
and
we
did
not
have
this,
for
it
wasn't
shown
on
the
other
preliminary
plan
that
was
done
for
this
area
and
when
Sherwin
Williams
brought
their
site
plan
forward,
I
necessarily
like
their
access
locations,
but
it
wasn't
laid
out
in
advance
and
here's
our
opportunity.
We
don't
want
to
have
conflicting
movements
and
we
don't
want
to
have
confused
drivers.
M
So
people
think
if
you
have
a
lot
of
access
points
to
their
property,
maybe
business
will
be
better,
but
actually
the
d-o-t
research
shows
that
a
well
defined
clearly
located
driveway,
even
if
it
isn't
right
off
the
main
drag.
But
if
you
can
see
where
it
is,
you
can
see
how
to
get
to
it.
You'll
get.
It
does
not
hurt
your
business
not
to
have
access
off
the
primary
Road
which
is
highway
to
12
years,
and
if
you.
D
M
A
K
M
K
Other
comment:
I
want
to
just
make
I
guess,
I,
think
it
just
like
you
come
in
and
about
what
they
did
above
14th,
at
least
it
gave
us
an
idea.
It
gave
the
developer
an
idea
of
what
can
be
done
and
I.
Think
in
this
case,
we're,
like
I,
said
we
have
multiple
owners.
I
think
that
it's
if
I
were
zoning,
that
land
I
would
love
to
see.
K
What
someone
else
can
can
come
up
with,
for
ideas
doesn't
mean
I'm
stuck
to
it,
but
if
that
that
is
the
gateway
to
Watertown,
and
if
that
starts
out
as
a
cluster
and
content
news
on
as
a
cluster
businesses
aren't
going
to
want
to
be
in
there,
it's
not
going
to
be
attractive.
It's
not
going
to
appeal
if
we
have
wonderful
roads
going
through
there,
depending
on
at
whatever
developer
starts
first,
but
the
next
developer
knows
that
you
know
mine's
going
to
tie
into
this
and
away.
We
go
as
a
I
guess.
K
Having
that
something
to
be
able
to
present
to
potential
buyers
saying
this
is
where
we're
thinking
the
roads
are
going
to
go.
It
makes
that
land
more
valuable,
then
well.
I,
don't
know
we
just
we
can
pop
you
wherever
you
want
to
go.
I
just
I
think
that
those
three
owners
that
you
know
maybe
aren't
necessarily
agreeing
on
everything
that
needs
to
be
done.
The
overall
layout
of
this
is
huge.
A
We
just
have
to
remember
that
a
preliminary
plan
can
be
changed,
I
think
sometime
developers
look
and
say
come
in
with
a
concept
plan.
You
asked
me
to
do
a
preliminary
Planet
which
isn't
it's
not
inexpensive,
and
then
you
we
have
to
be
very
open
that
when
somebody
comes
in
and
says,
I
want
to
change
my
preliminary
plan,
we
don't
treat
them
like
a
criminal.
K
A
I
can
understand
why
a
person
says
I
really
don't
want
to
put
too
much
on
paper
because
I
don't
know
if
the
Lots
600
feet
or
300
feet
deep.
You
know
if
you
sell
a
couple
super
deep
ones,
and
the
road
goes
further
back.
If
you
find
out
well,
I've
got
them
the
shallower
Lots
and
the
road
moves
forward
form.
So
I
can
see
why
people
are
apprehensive
until
they
know
it's
also
the
chicken
or
the
egg
put
the
road
in
put
the
road
in
stuff
we'll
sell.
M
M
A
A
you
know:
you're
looking
go,
I,
understand
the
developers,
thinking
if
I
get
a
Lowe's
in
there,
any
deeper
lots.
If
I'm
not
going
to
get
a
Lowe's
it's
just.
When
do
you
pull
the
trigger,
and
when
do
you
say
okay,
this
is
what
it's
gonna
be,
but
until
then
we
don't
know
so
we
keep
throwing
back
and
forth,
but
all
right
anything
else,
and
we
don't
we
that's
just
for
discussion.
We
don't
have
an.
M
L
We
have
in
our
subdivision
code,
we
have
a
section
titled
variance
as
it's
twenty
4.0
902
and
it
says,
request
for
variances
must
be
submitted
to
the
Planning,
Commission
and
or
City
Council
under
the
procedures
set
forth
and
Waterton
ordinances
and
then
there's
there's
no
ordinances
set
forth.
That
say
how
to
do
the
variances.
So
we
drafted
just
something
brief
and
simple
that
states
that
appeals
to
title
24
concerning
interpretation
or
administration
of
this
ordinance
may
be
taken
by
any
person
aggrieved
by
the
decision
of
the
city.
Engineer.
L
Appeals
must
be
submitted
to
the
Planning
Commission.
Such
appeals
shall
be
heard
by
the
Planning
Commission
within
a
reasonable
time
not
to
exceed
60
days.
The
Planning
Commission
shall
only
grant
the
variance
if
they
find
that
the
variance
is
in
harmony
with
the
general
purposes
and
intent
of
this
title
and
will
not
be
injurious
to
the
neighborhood
detrimental
to
the
public
welfare
or
in
conflict.
With
the
comprehensive
plan
for
development,
any
person
aggrieved
by
the
decision
of
the
Planning
Commission
may
seek
review
by
the
City
Council.
L
L
A
M
A
M
A
A
E
A
M
E
Not
clear,
it's
not
clean,
well,
I
think
I
think,
in
effect,
what
you're
doing
is,
if
somebody
submits
a
plan
that
shows
a
60-foot
right
away
as
opposed
to
66.
The
current
language
of
the
ordinance
says:
request
for
variances
must
be
submitted
to
the
Planning
Commission.
So
in
effect,
by
submitting
that
60-foot
right-of-way
request,
they
are
submitting
a
variance
request
to
you.
A
A
M
C
C
K
F
F
C
D
A
M
Variance
from
our
procedures,
we
had
recently
a
plat
that
had
never
or
a
had
never
been
preliminary
planned
in
the
past
and
right
now.
If
you
don't
have
a
preliminary
plan
and
you're
creating
right
away
you,
you
can't
go
through
without
a
you
know,
and
this
would
give
them
if
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
go
through
a
big
process
for
one
last
lot
that
isn't
part
of
any
preliminary
plan.
That
would
be
an
example
of
where
they
could
get
a
variance
from
the
requirements
without
the
City
Engineer
having
to
bend
the
requirements.
We.
M
E
K
A
A
M
A
G
M
Yes,
we
could
specify
that
they
need
to
say
exactly.
We
actually
have
a
handout
for
variances
for
from
the
subdivision.
Code
we've
never
ever
used
them,
but
we
have
the
handout
there
and
I.
Think
that
does
say
it
on
there.
It's
it
asks
you.
What
specifically,
are
you
asking
for
a
variance
from,
and
then
we
could
public
notice
that
so.
A
We'll
need
to
table
this
until
the
next.
Maybe
is
that?
Because
you
guys
wanted
to
model
you
you're
gonna
modify
that
a
little
bit.
Okay,
I'll
need
a
motion
in
a
second
table
motion
by
mr.
Dahle
saying
when
mr.
Arnold,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
motion.
Carries
ninth
item
on
the
agenda.
Is
a
condominium
planning
procedure,
ordinance
revision.
L
Yes,
we
we
don't
have
anywhere
in
our
ordinance
that
spells
out
how
to
do
condominium,
plats
and
adjust.
We
just
thought
that
we
should
have
a
an
area
where
condominium
plats
can
be
done
so
that
they
don't
necessarily
have
to
go
through
the
Planning,
Commission
and
council
process.
If
they
would,
you
know,
meet
the
requirements
of
what
could
be
done
administratively.
L
Currently,
a
condo
plat
can't
be
administrative
because
of
you
know:
zero
line
setbacks
and
an
issues
like
that.
That
makes
it
so
that
they
don't
don't
meet
our
zoning
code.
So
we
we
drafted
the
this
resolution,
which
say
it's
kind
of
Platts:
do
not
have
to
meet
any
requirements
of
the
subdivision
ordinance
as
long
as
the
line
is
surveyed,
mapped
or
diagram
and
subdivided
into
sections
or
units
and
the
following
requirements
are
met.
If
all
of
the
requirements
are
met,
then
the
condo
plat
can
be
administratively
approved.
L
If
not
all
requirements
are
met,
then
the
condo
plat
must
be
approved
separately
by
the
Planning,
Commission
and
City
Council
item
a
that
a
master
deed
or
lease
has
been
prepared
in
accordance
with
SDC
l,
43
15
a
for
the
the
name
of
the
plat
must
include
the
word
condominium.
An
example
is
Pine
Knoll,
condominium
or
plat
of
Lynn
Haven,
a
kind
of
mininum
see
the
plat
cannot
create
public
streets
alleys
or
dedicate
any
area
to
the
public
D.
L
The
plat
cannot
alter
any
previously
dedicated,
probably
should
say
land
or
something
to
the
public,
nor
modify
or
remove
any
easements
restrictions
or
other
encumbrances
on
the
land
E.
The
construction
of
the
buildings
must
meet
the
International
Building
Code
and
international
fire
code
and
F
that.
D
L
E
L
L
D
N
Just
just
suggest
going
back
to
your
definitions,
because
you've
got
structure
building
unit.
All
of
that
likely
to
find
somewhere
in
your
ordinance
I
would
suggest
the
likely
term
is
probably
going
to
be
structure
that
the
primary
structure
will
meet
the
required
setbacks
with
the
zoning
designation.