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A
B
Just
note
that
if,
if
possible,
we
were
scheduled
to
have
a
joint
jurisdiction,
Zoning
Board
of
Board
of
Adjustment
meeting
the
applicant
for
that
meeting,
withdrew
his
application.
So
there's
no
need
for
that
meeting.
That's
why
you
don't
see
anybody
from
the
county
sitting
here.
I
notified
them
they're,
not
here
the
next
meeting,
that'll
be
a
joint
meeting
for
those
of
you
that
are
on
that
joint
board
will
be
May
16th
7:30
p.m.
at
the
County
Extension
Building.
A
A
You,
the
first
item
on
the
agenda,
is
the
approval
of
the
April
21st
2016
minutes
could
I
get
a
motion
in
a
second
motion
by
mr.
Stein
sang
by
mr.
stone
Barger
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
motion
carries
next
item
on
the
agenda.
Is
the
applicant
for
Mike
Lawrence
of
for
Harry's
haircuts
and
hot
towels
LLC
permit
number
166
76
is
asking
for
conditional
use
for
the
sale
of
sale
and
serving
consumption
of
alcoholic
beverages
and
the
operation
of
video
lottery
machines
in
a
c-1
community
commercial
district.
C
Applicant
Mike
Lawrence
for
Harry's
haircuts
and
hot
towels
seeks
approval
to
continue
the
sale
serving
and
consumption
of
alcoholic
beverages
at
this
property
located
in
the
c1
community,
commercial
district
pursuant
to
bar
or
tavern
and
contingent
contingent
on
on
compliance
with
specific
rules
governing
individual
conditional
uses,
including,
but
not
limited
to
12,
to
21
the
ordinance
section,
21
Oh
OH
to
be
6
A
through
H
and
any
other
conditions
this
board
deems
necessary.
That
is
part.
One
of
this
application.
C
Staff
findings
bar
or
tavern
and
casino
or
gambling
establishment
are
listed,
conditional
uses
for
the
c1
community,
commercial
district
for
21
24.
Oh
three,
four
and
twenty
one,
twenty
four
OH,
three
twenty
one,
and
so
therefore
they
may
be
considered
by
this
board.
This
property
consists
of
two
circa
1904
buildings,
totaling
fourteen
thousand
five
hundred
and
fifty
square
feet.
C
2100
102
is
location.
The
c1
community,
commercial
district
is
exempt
from
this
restriction.
That
is
the
restriction
on
being
so
close
to
Boys
and
Girls,
Clubs
schools,
etc.
Chapter
xx,
163
is
off
street
parking
and
loading
requirements
again.
The
c1
district
is
exempt
from
the
off
street
parking
requirements.
C
Chapter
21
65
is
outside
storage
and
display
requirements
for
specific
uses.
Again,
the
application
did
not
indicate
display
in
the
written
application
or
the
site
plan
chapter
21,
73,
landscape
and
lighting
standards.
This
portion
of
the
c1
district
is
exempt
from
these
requirements,
also
in
chapter
21,
80
signs
and
outdoor
advertising.
The
signage
was
not
addressed,
but
you
could
ask
questions
regarding
the
same.
A
A
E
A
D
A
E
A
E
E
D
A
A
D
F
D
Under
that
malt
beverage,
so
it
wouldn't
have
to
come
in
front
of
this
board.
Well,
when
I
came
up
here
after
I
purchased,
a
building
I
did
that
before
I
purchased,
the
building
I
purchased
the
building
to
come
up
and
get
my
mob
beverage
license
and
Jill
did
a
back
story.
This
has
had
a
malt
beverage
for
20
years.
It's
never
been
approved
as
a
site
for
a
malt
beverage.
D
I
have
him
all
beverage
I
couldn't
sit
through
there
like
I,
said
I
when
I
talked
to
Stanton
and
I
talked
to
the
mayor.
They
said
you
know,
hey,
we
told
you
you're
good
to
go,
you
know
so.
I
purchased
the
building.
I
put
my
bar
in
place.
I
got
everything
ready,
you
know
applied
for
them.
All
beverage
came
down
to
it,
got
up
to
Jill's
desk
and
Jill's
like
hey.
This
site
does
not,
and
at
that
time
I
said
Jill
are
there
any
other
ones?
Well,
there's
a
long
list
of
them.
D
A
That
comes
to
mind
is
when
compared
skellige
moved
from
one
building
to
the
another.
We
found
out
that
they've
never
been
approved
to
have
alcohol
on
the
site
and
it's
just
kind
of
old-school
housekeeping.
What
we
do
is
we
actually
look
at
the
the
lot?
That's
there
and
once
it's
approved
there,
we
say:
is
this
the
right
place?
Is
it?
Is
it
an
okay
place
to
have
beer
wine,
video
lottery,
alcohol?
What
it
may
be,
and
we
approve
it
for
that
lot
and
then
it
kind
of
transfers
with
ownership,
there's
still
a
conditional
use.
A
C
G
A
City
probably
had
approved
them
to
have
a
beer
and
wine,
but
nobody
had
ever
gone
through
the
steps
just
to
verify
that
that
property
was
Ella.
It
had
been
approved
for
the
consumption
of
it.
We
gave
it
to
the
business
the
city
did,
but
nobody
did
the
background
check
to
see
if
we'd
ever
toned.
For
that.
C
Yes,
there's
there's
two
steps
to
to
serving
alcoholic
beverages,
and
the
casino
also
one
is
that
this
board
approves
the
site
that
the
site
is
okay
for
these
kind
of
things,
according
to
the
neighborhood
and
to
all
of
these
regulations
we
just
went
through
and
number
two
is.
The
license
is
approved
by
the
City
Council
for
the
specific
license
for
which
kind
of
liquor
malt
beverage,
the.
E
C
D
We're
trying
to
do
is
is
prevent
this
from
happening.
The
next
time
we
sell
I
mean
we
could
have
just
did
what
everyone
else
does
like
I
said:
there's
a
long
list
of
bars,
I'm,
not
gonna,
point
any
fingers
or
point
new
names
of
bars
in
town
that
are
on
property
that
is
not
blessed
by
this
board,
but
there's
a
long
list
of
them.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
I
go
to
sell
this
to
the
next
guy
that
he
doesn't
run
into
that
this
same
thing.
D
So,
like
I,
said
it,
it
is
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping
it.
They
I
was
insured
before
I
purchased
the
building
that
this
would
be
a
license.
That
would
because
it
was
at
there
and
it
had
a
license
before
this
ground
should
have
been
blessed
well,
come
to
find
out
after
I
purchased
the
building
and
came
up
to
get
the
license
that
the
ground
has
never
been
blessed
by.
This
board
sounds.
A
I
I
Summer
is
just
around
the
corner
and
I've
already
had
a
couple.
Tenants
come
in
and
complain
to
me
about
people
hanging
out
on
the
sidewalk
in
front
after
they've
left.
You
know
they
might
just
be
standing
out
there
visiting,
but
the
noise
obviously
travels
upstairs
to
their
apartments
as
they've
opened
their
windows.
It's
nice
enough
now,
I
don't
want
to
hurt
Mike's
business
or
anything
like
that
and
I've
talked
him
about
it.
A
Thank
you.
You
know
the
one
thing
I'd,
let
Mike
know
this
is
a
conditional
use.
The
most
important
thing
with
the
conditioner
use
is
it's
by
conditions
that
you
meet
the
conditions
of
the
use.
If
at
any
time
we
feel
as
a
board
that
the
conditions
aren't
being
met,
we
can
revoke
that
conditional.
Yes,
we
have
one
that
was
brought
before
us
last
week
that
they
want
us
to
take
a
look
at
about
revoking
the
conditions
of
au.
I
A
D
A
J
E
D
Not
sure
where
we'll
put
on
mine
I
know,
that's
why
I
asked
for
the
entire
building
we're
still
growing
and
learning
at
this
time.
I.
You
know
I,
like
the
family
friendly
of
the
the
haircut
place.
If
the
haircut
place
gets
smaller
or
we
have
to
add
some
more
space
for
the
other
side,
then
we'll
adapt
at
that
time,
I
mean
we've
been
overwhelmed
by
support
from
the
from
the
community.
We
we
have
our
waiting
lists
on
Friday
and
Saturday,
both
nights.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions,
any
other
ones
speak
on
behalf
or
against
I'll
close.
The
public
hearing
ask
for
a
motion
in
a
second
for
discussion
motion
by
mr.
Stein
second
by
mr.
Dahle,
any
other
discussion.
Any
questions
for
Mike
see
you
none
will
vote
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
motion
carries
thank.
B
C
Application
was
submitted
by
Katherine
benda
requesting
to
construct
a
non-conforming
120
square
foot
deck
that
would
be
10
by
12
on
to
a
compliant
single-family
dwelling
located
in
the
PUD
or
Planned
Unit
development
district.
A
set
structure
is
proposed
to
be
constructed,
0
feet
from
the
south
side
property
line
where
a
minimum
7
feet
is
required.
C
Application
was
denied
based
on
the
following
ordinance
regulations,
21
o3o,
to
prohibiting
the
design
and
creation
of
non-conforming
structures,
21
1001
height
and
placement
regulations,
21
6,
double-o
1,
all
required
yard
setback
shall
be
open,
unoccupied,
unoccupied
space
and
21
6
double-o
to
no
adjacent
open
space
shall
be
used
to
satisfy
any
yard
setback
required
for
any
other
structure
and
no
yard
setback
she'll
be
reduced
in
dimension
below
the
minimum
required
requirements
set
for
the
district
in
which
such
yard
is
located.
The
applicant
appeals
the
above
number
to
requirements
of
the
current
zoning
ordinance.
C
C
Staff
finds
that
legally
by
permit
there
exists
a
fully
compliant
primary
structure.
The
single-family
dwelling
with
attached
garage
on
this
PUD
zone
lot,
the
existing
unlawful
10
by
12
South
deck
was
constructed
without
permit
or
quote
inspections
and
non-compliant
with
ordinance
regulations
for
21:10
o1j
decks
shall
observe
the
same
setbacks
as
primary
structures.
Steps
necessary
for
access
to
a
building
are
obstructions
that
shall
be
permitted
in
all
yards
per
ordinance
and
an
ad,
a
compliant
5x5
platform
may
be
required.
Where
said
start
stairs
are
the
only
entrance
to
the
dwelling,
regardless
of
setback
requirements.
C
However,
this
single-family
dwelling
has
a
main
entrance
on
the
front
west
side.
Only
one
access
to
a
single-family
dwelling
is
required
by
code.
This
parcel
lacks
standard
Boulevard
requirements,
Boulevard
trees.
If
application
is
endorsed,
this
board
may
consider
fulfillment
of
any
or
all
of
those
requirements
in
conjunction
with
any
structural
improvements
authorized
by
building
permit.
A
C
A
L
L
A
Well,
not
when
I
looked
at
the
one
thing
I
looked
at
was:
is
it?
Is
it
it's
a
buddy
in
the
neighbor's
yard,
but
is
it
looks
like
it's?
Their
garage
is
on
that
side
of
the
house.
It's
not
houses,
it's
not
a
kitchen
window
and
there
is
a
sliding
glass
door
there.
So
when
that
house
was
built,
it
was
designed
to
have
a
deck
on
that
side.
Even
though
there
was
only
three
feet
of
legal
room
for
the
deck
to
be
yeah,
it
looks
like
there's
more
mistakes
than
one
built
one.
J
E
C
For
instance,
a
home
like
this
could
have
three
sliding
glass
doors.
You
know
going
off
of
each
side
of
the
house,
but
for
a
single-family
dwelling
by
code,
only
one
ingress
egress
to
the
to
the
dwelling
is
required
by
code.
So.
E
K
You
know
I
can't
do
everything
chip
with
the
fire
department.
What
they're
referring
to
and
what
you're
referring
to
John
is
the
egress
and
then
the
windows
are
they
have
to
be
emergency
emergency
escape
windows?
So
that's
you
know
they
need
one
common
way,
one
door
to
get
in
and
out,
because
that
terminology
gets
mixed
up:
emergency
escape
egress
door,
egress
windows,
so.
A
A
On
the
lot
line,
just
like
the
rest
of
it,
so
it's
not
encroaching
any
more
than
it
already
is
what
you
can't
encroach
any
more
than
it
already
is
anyone
else
for
the
open
that
I'll
close
the
open
ask
for
motion
in
a
second
for
discussion
motion
by
mr.
Stein
second
by
mr.
Hanson,
any
other
discussion
I
got.
H
Perhaps
but
in
my
view,
this
is
one
of
those
instances
where
I
can
see
your
point
John
as
far
as
compounding
the
problem,
but
the
the
fact
of
matter
is:
is
that
the
deck
that's
there
now
needs
to
be
replaced?
You
can't
exit
the
house
without
a
deck
and
the
the
deck
that
will
be
replacing.
It
will
be
an
upgrade.
You
know
to
the
home
into
the
community
into
the
neighborhood.
So
in
that
regard,
I
would
I
would
support
it.
I.
L
My
neighbors
anymore,
in
all
fairness,
I
mean
I,
could
be
like
Mike
and
throw
people,
because
my
neighbors
are
non-compliant
with
their
concrete
pad
it.
It
just
is
stuff
happens
and,
like
I
said,
I'm,
not
throwing
anybody
in
but
I'm
trying
to
improve
the
appearance
of
my
house
and
bottom
line,
I'm
trying
to
improve
the
safety
of
my
house.
A
H
C
H
C
A
You
item
number
four
Shirley
Ness
Howard
Busan
Laverne
Daley,
permit
number
one.
Six,
six,
seven
seven
is
seeking
the
variance
relief
from
the
requirements
of
the
ordinance
appealing
title
21
in
regard
to
the
property
at
1907
4th
Avenue
Southwest,
with
the
construction
of
us
of
a
detached
structure
in
an
r3
district.
C
Application
was
submitted
by
Shirley
Ness
and
Howard.
Buse
request
needs
requesting
to
construct
a
non-conforming
840
square
foot
28
by
30
garage,
said,
structure
proposed
to
be
constructed,
constructed
8
feet
from
the
primary
structure,
which
creates
an
attached
garage
on
a
7,500
square
foot
lot
where
there
is
currently
an
existing
attached
garage
that
is
physically
attached
to
the
primary
structure
and
where
only
one
attached
garage
is
allowed
and
three
point
six
feet
from
the
rear
north
property
line,
where
a
minimum
25
feet
is
required
for
attached
garages.
C
Application
was
denied
based
on
the
following
ordinance
regulations:
21
Oh
302,
prohibiting
the
design
and
creation
of
non-conforming
structures,
21,
1001
and
or
21
1002
height
and
placement
regulations,
21
601,
I'll
required
yard
setback
shall
be
opened
unto
you
is
base
20,
one
six
double
O,
two,
no
adjacent
open
space
will
be
used
to
satisfy
any
other
yard
setback
for
any
other
structure
and
no
yard
shall
be
reduced
in
dimension
below
the
minimum
requirement
set
for
that
district
applicant
appeals.
The
above
requirements.
C
Staff
finds
that
currently
this
is
a
fully
compliant
our
three
zone
lot
and
primary
structure.
Single-Family
dwelling
with
attached
garage,
except
for
the
non-conforming
54
square
foot,
enclosed
porch
entry
and
84
square
foot
deck
on
the
east
side
that
were
constructed
unlawfully
without
permits
due
to
the
proposed
size
and
placement
of
the
proposed
garage.
It
becomes
the
second
attached
garage
on
the
property
note
as
an
attached
accessory
structure.
The
proposed
garage
or
excuse
me
as
an
unattached
accessory
structure.
C
The
applicant
has
a
reasonable
use
of
this
7,500
square
foot
parcel,
but
reasons
that
the
adjacent
public
right-of-way
alley
is
justifiably
used
utilized
to
satisfy
their
structures.
Setback
requirements,
which
is
prohibited
by
21
602,
which
states
again
no
open
space
required
by
this
ordinance
for
any
building
structure
or
use
shall
be
used
to
satisfy
any
yard,
open
space
lot
area
required
for
any
other
building
structure
or
use.
A
Thank
you
Joe.
Will
you
pull
up
the
drawing
now?
This
is
this:
is
this
abuts
an
alley
but
there's
only
homes
on
one
side
of
the
alley,
I
believe
the
stadium
is
on
the
other
side
of
the
alleys.
That's
on
right
or
Foundation
or
I.
Cook
complex,
cook,
complex,
is
on
the
other
side.
What
my
question
is
Jill.
This
is
a
detached
garage,
but
it's
really
not
a
detached
garage.
It's
an
attached
garage
because
it's
closer
than
ten
feet
from
the
house,
so
it's
detached,
but
it's
really
attached
radio
got
that.
A
A
So
it's
really
three
and
a
half
feet
instead
of
nine
feet
as
but
because
we
consider
it
attached,
it's
got
to
be
25
feet.
It
has
the
same
setback
as
the
house
would
have.
So
in
this
case,
it's
just
to
tell
you
what
it
looks
like
looks
like
a
detached
garage,
but
it's
really
an
attached
garage.
So
it's
not
blowing
the
setbacks
as
bad
as
you
think.
Follow
me
on
that.
J
F
A
We
don't
have
anyone
from
the
city
as
far
as
snow
removal,
guys
you're
doing
I,
don't
see
pain
in
back
there.
A
lot
of
the
question
we
always
have
is:
how
close
is
that
building
going
to
be
to
the
ally
when
it
comes
to
snow
removal
and
getting
equipment
through
there,
but
because
it's
only
bordered
on
by
houses
on
one
side,
I
think
there's
a
lot
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
room
back.
There
isn't.
F
F
C
E
F
A
See
you
can
see
where
the
alley
is
up
there,
yeah,
that's
where
that's
where
the
drive
path
actually
is
so
the
alleys
actually,
like
you
said
it's
lopsided
it's
on
the
far
side,
because
there's
no
homes
on
that
side,
it
must
have
been
they've,
always
put
it
over
there.
So
he's
really
further
away
from
the.
F
A
Thank
you.
Anyone
else,
any
questions
and
the
open.
Well,
it's
open
scene,
then
I'll
close
the
open
ask
for
a
motion
in
a
second
for
discussion
motion
by
mr.
Stein
second
by
mr.
Dahle
discussion.
I
think
it's
kind
of
an
odd,
an
odd
usage
over
there
with
the
alley.
The
way
it
is
in
the
fact
that
it's
categorized
is
attached,
but
it's
functionally
detached.
So
the
the
encroachment
is
as
much
as
it
looks
on
paper.
That's
my
opinion.
Anyone
else
seen
none
ask
for
a
vote.
All
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
motion
carries
any
business.
C
This
board
approved
a
variance
for
a
single-family
dwelling
site
setbacks
believe
it
was
last
year
in
2015
and
the
applicant
this.
This
is
Shannon
most
house
like
home
Shannon
and
his
wife
would
like
to
they.
They
submitted
to
the
board
of
site
plan
which
showed
specific
placement
of
that
house,
and
the
board
did
grant
a
variance
to
that
now.
They
would
like
to
take
that
house
and
move
it.
C
A
A
So
at
that
point,
I
think
we're
gonna
want
to
know
exactly
where
those
front
lot
lines
are
how
far
he
is
from
the
lot
line,
because,
if
he's
ahead
of
the
neighbors
they're
gonna
have
some
concerns
and
they
deserve
to
know
and
when
we
make
a
decision,
if
they're
not
here,
and
they
don't
understand
why
we
made
it,
it
wouldn't
look
good
to
us
so
we'll
have
them
come
back.
If
I,
that's.
H
A
A
D
G
A
B
Want
to
make
one
note
before
we
start
here,
the
plat.
The
resolution
on
the
plat
is
resolution
2016-17,
if
you're
taking
score
home,
you'll
notice.
If
you
check
the
agenda,
we
had
accidentally
shown.
Oh
seven,
that
was
a
typo
one.
Seven
is
what
it
was.
This
is
not.
It
is
the
plat
a
lotta,
a
to
Prairie
Hills
development.
Second
edition:
the
landowner
is
Dennis
Arnold.
As
previously
noted
the
area
we're
looking
at
here,
we're
planting
a
single
lot.
It
would
be
perfectly
honest,
a
lot
eight
Prairie
Hills
development.
Second
edition.
B
You
can
see
that
it's
zoned,
primarily
r1
South
corner
of
of
Prairie
Hills
addition
is
zoned
c2,
but
that's
not
what
we're
looking
at
we're.
Looking
at
a
small
portion,
there'll
be
a
residential
lot.
I
shouldn't,
say:
small
36,
almost
37
thousand
square
foot
lot
the
area
shown
in
yellow
on
the
screen
here.
I
B
Be
the
lot
that
is
being
proposed
to
be
created
at
the
bulb
of
the
cul-de-sac
of
Prairie
Hills
circle,
there's
just
another
way
to
show
it
just
a
couple
of
notes
about
this.
The
area
is
planned
to
be
residential
in
the
comprehensive
Land
Use
Plan.
It
complies
with
the
plans
for
access,
as
it's
access
is
off
of
that
cul-de-sac.
Prairie
Hill
Circle,
no
direct
access
to
a
collector
Street,
which
is
key
in
terms
of
planning,
he's
meeting
that
it
is
adjacent
to
a
trail
for
pedestrian
transportation.
B
This
is
a
conventional
plat
as
I
refer
to
it,
as
opposed
to
an
administrative
plat.
We
had
that
discussion
amongst
the
office.
There
is
a
section
of
the
ordinance
that
says
that,
if
a
portion
of
the
parent
property-
in
this
case,
this
big
piece
here
was
involved
in
an
administrative
plat,
we
gotta
wait
three
years
to
have
another
one.
That's
why
it's
here.
Otherwise
this
would
for
all
practical
purposes,
not.
I
B
To
you,
this
would
be
an
administrative
plat.
Just
one
thing,
I
want
to
note,
because
some
people
have
sometimes
we
get
questions
like
this.
Preliminary
plan
has
been
approved
for
this
property.
The
preliminary
plan
did
initially
show
back
in
O
six
for
a
for
a
through
Street,
however,
you've
approved
multiple
subsequent
flats
that
show
a
call
to
sac
at
Prairie,
Hills
circle
and
Zoning
officer.
Urban
planner
and
City
Engineer
have
have.
J
B
G
A
With
that
I'll
open
the
public
hearing,
if
your
notes
here
speak
on
behalf
or
against
the
plat,
it's
already
been
annexed,
it's
already
been
zoned,
seeing
none
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
ask
for
a
motion
in
a
second
motion
by
mr.
stone,
Berger,
say
goodbye
mr.
Stein
any
other
discussion
on
it.
Seen
none
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carries
old
new
business
just.
B
A
couple
of
items,
a
new
business
if
you'll
take
it
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
too
much
unless
someone
wants
to,
but
two
items
that
you'll
see
coming
down
the
pike
at
you,
a
couple
of
things
have
been
brought
up.
One
is
an
ordinance
amendment
which
would
allow
certain
recreational
use
in
industrial
zones.
Question
came
up
about
using
a
property
in
an
industrial
zone
for
an
exercise,
and
actually,
in
this
case
it
is
for.
B
That
used
to
be
an
industrial
district
and
now
is
looking
to
move.
We've
got
multiple
fitness
type
of
uses
in
the
industrial
district.
You
see
that
in
places
where
you
need
a
large
sidewall
large
building
to
do
that
sort
of
thing.
Frankly,
they've
been
popping
up
in
there
and
realistically
it's
not
listed
use
in
the
industrial
district.
So
we
need
to
account
for
that
and
get
that
listed
and
one
thing
that's
going
to
be
taken
into
consideration.
B
J
A
B
A
B
A
This
up
is
one
when
the
local
business
sold
and
there's
three
or
four
hundred
young
gymnasts
around
looking
for
a
building
to
jump
and
tumble,
and
for
this
particular
business
we'll
go
through
this
ordinance
revision.
But
is
there
a
way
we
can
make
it
so
they
can
progress
toward
the
building
they're
looking
at
going
in
or
do
they
have
to
wait
for
the
ordinance
change
and
how
long
does
that
take.
B
B
B
A
Right
now,
what
they
want
to
do
is
prohibit
it.
They
need
to
make
some
design
changes
to
the
building
if
they
can
probably
do
it
on
their
own.
If
they
went
in
there,
it
would
be
considered
non-compliant,
but
to
make
it
perfect,
you're
talking
the
end
of
June,
so
it's
eight
weeks
six
to
eight
weeks
before
it
would
be
acceptable.
B
J
The
program
because
I've
got
a
little
insight
into
that
that
program
is
going
to
be
really
hurt
by
you
know
they
have
a
place.
There
kicked
out
of
this
one
and
I'm
just
looking
at
from
a
kid's
standpoint.
Now,
there'll
be
a
hundred
and
twenty
five
or
a
hundred
and
fifty
kids.
That
will
really
be
hurt
if
we
can't
do
some
kind
of
a
conditional
use
on
that
building
from.
K
Chip
with
Fire
Department,
just
I,
was
just
thinking
them
back
here.
Industrial
use
has
industrial
use
in
it
and
we
have
plating
companies
in
those
areas.
There
are
more
hazard
use
area
and
we
have
to
really
use
caution
on
what
we
you
know,
I'm
just
throwing
the
ball
around
now.
Thinking
about
it,
you
know
we're
requiring
or
we're
making
it
possible
that
we're
bringing
a
lot
of
traffic
in
and
out
of
these
areas
with
youth
and
if
something
unfortunate,
what
happened
in
one
of
those
industrial
buildings,
we
have
a.
K
A
Him
on
that-
and
you
know
cuz
I
thought
from
the
city
standpoint
I
didn't
know
if
a
person
would
buy
that
or
if
it
would
be
an
association,
a
parent
run
like
soccer
hockey
baseball
and
the
real
catch
with
this
type
of
a
facility
as
an
inground
pit.
They
they
couldn't
dig
an
in-ground
pit
in
the
in
the
in
the
auditorium,
because
that
was
my
first
thought
is:
hey
that'd
be
a
nice
place,
but
I
think
that's
why
we
do
that
conditional
use,
because
if
it
isn't
a
high-traffic,
you
know
industrial
park.
A
You're
gonna
say
it
really
doesn't
make
sense
having
a
couple
hundred
kids
going.
But
if
you
got
an
offshoot
place
like
where
they're
looking
at
that's
just
off
of
fourth
Avenue
over
there
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
trafficking
going
on
it,
may
it
may
fit
over
there
better
than
what
it
wouldn't
some
and.
B
B
J
A
Why
I
thought
with
buildings
with
though
they
need
large
side
walls?
They
need
pits
and
I
thought.
You
know
it's.
It's
not
really
a
situ.
It's
not
really
a
c3.
It's
due
to
the
high
side
walls,
it's
probably
a
industrial
looking
building
from
a
distance,
but
in
the
i1
industrial
under
conditional
uses,
we
don't
have
the
catch-all
other
uses
which,
in
the
opinion
of
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
are
the
same
general
character.
We
don't
have
that
catch-all
phrase
in
there
where
we
could
slip
it
in
there.
Okay,
what
else
you
got.
B
B
B
That
was
the
possibility
of
allowing
accessory
structures
with
sidewalls
exceeding
with
that,
which
is
listed
already
in
the
in
the
ordinance,
because
we've
got
a
maximum
height
aside
walls
on
those
and
that's
one
that
we
probably
need
to
take
the
temperature
of
folks,
but
in
as
I
see
it.
That's
probably
a
conditional
use
to
allow
them
a
little
bit
larger,
and
then
you
list
specific
conditions,
perhaps
building
standards
or
citing
materials.
Something
like
that.
B
If
that's
what
you
want
to
do
so
that
you
can
specifically
say,
if
you
check
these
boxes,
you
can
have
a
higher
sidewall
and
again
that's
something
that
was
just
brought
up
and
kind
of
shooting
from
the
hip.
I
can
tell
you,
that's
probably
not
as
as
I
see
it
as
fast
tracked
as
the
one
ahead
of
it,
but.
A
The
question
I
had
we
talked
a
little
bit
earlier
about
it.
I'm
not.
You
know
what
we'd
said
is
with
the
the
things
that
people
we
were
telling
people
you
have
to
start,
storing
everything
inside
and
now
they're
starting
to
tell
us.
I
can't
get
everything
inside
so
that
that's
what
brought
it
on
and
as
I
talked
with
Dennis
Arnold
on
it,
I
said:
what
can
we
do
if
people
want
to
go
to
a
higher
side?
Well,
what
can
we
do
as
a
builder
aesthetically?
A
So
it
looks
pleasing
because
if
you
just
build
it
as
as
high
in
as
boxy
as
you
can
they
look
bad
and
then,
when
you
stop
and
take
a
look
and
go,
there's
some
lots
that
can
put
a
sixteen
hundred
foot
building
on
there.
That's
a
sixty
foot
building,
that's
a
big
long
side
wall
that
could
be
gymnasium
asked
in
a
neighborhood,
and
so
what
my
thought
was
is
even
on
a
ten-foot
side
wall,
because
there
there
was
a
couple
buildings
going
up
and
I
asked
Dennis
to
go,
take
a
look
at
him
and
go.
J
A
G
G
In
my
mind,
it
doesn't
matter
whether
that's
a
20
foot
or
a
50
foot,
but
under
even
under
allowable
standards.
Sometimes
you
can
meet
the
code
of
the
ordinance
right
now
and
it
still
looks
like
a
great
big
box
and
it'll
be
higher
than
the
existing
house,
and
it
just
stands
out
in
the
neighborhood,
and
none
of
your
neighbors
are
gonna
like,
but
you
can
take
that
same
garage
and
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
wall
lengths,
not
I'm,
not
talking
height
there
I'm
just
talking
to
lengths
of
walls.
G
G
If
we
change
the
ordinance
and
saying
have
more
than
a
ten-foot
side
wall,
but
your
walls
on
your
house,
or
only
8
or
12,
pitch
I,
don't
care
if
you
go
a
10
or
a
twelve
or
nine
and
change
the
pitch,
it's
gonna
be
way
higher
than
the
house,
so
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
rough
pitch.
We
need
to
consider
treat
them
somewhat
the
same.
It
has
to
blend
with
the
house
same
kind
of
siding,
some
kind
of
shingles
same
pitch,
break
up
your
walls
put
some
bump.
G
A
A
I
think
if
we
could
work
with
Dennis,
he
knows
that
the
building
side
better
than
any
and
we
don't
want
to
make
it
cost
prohibitive.
We
just
want
to
say,
hey
here's
an
idea
and
many
of
these
people.
If
they
would
have
had
that
idea,
it
might
be.
What
do
you
call
that
when
you
got
a
roof
here
and
then
you've
got
like
a
little
hip
roof
or
you
know
not
a
dormer,
but
you
know
a
roof.
A
G
Know,
there's
one
that
you
and
I
it's
just
it's
it's
a
big
garage
and
it
meets
all
of
our
current
orders.
But
when
you
look
at
the
end
of
it,
it's
wide
and
it's
really
tall
and
it's
just
one
great
big
block
box
on
the
end
of
it
where
you
could
do
wouldn't
take
much
at
all
and
you
could
dress
that
whole
end
up
and
look
very
nice.