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A
The
deal
was
just
so
everybody
knows
is
that
David
and
I
when
I
was
on
the
radio
a
couple
weeks
ago.
He
doesn't
probably
remember,
but
he
said
this
is
my
45th
year
doing
the
City
Council
meetings
he
says
I
think
I
deserve
a
lazy
boy,
he
didn't
think
I
was
listening
and
I
was
Dave.
So
that's
your
chair
for
the
night
yeah
I
really
wanted
to
get
you
a
pair
of
slippers
with
some
like
dog
ears
on
it,
and
so
we
need
to
take
him
yeah.
We
need
to
take
a
picture
of
this.
B
A
A
C
A
A
A
D
I
think
things
went
good
with
the
snow
removal
actually
last
week
last
week,
I
don't
even
remember
what
day
it
was.
My
days
are
blending
together,
but
the
first
snow
event
we
had
a
week
ago
is
about
six
and
a
half
inches
was
the
official
reading
and
I
think
we
got
more
than
that,
but
we
did
a
good
job
with
it.
We
had
our
that
motor
grader
that
we
were
the
third
one
we
were
getting
with
the
snow
gate.
We
have
that
going
now.
D
D
Okay,
the
green
area
that
you
see
here
is
basically
like
I
was
saying
before
21st
Street
west
over
here
down
to
212
on
the
bottom,
19th
Street
East
and
then
up
to
14th
Avenue
north.
This
is
the
area
that
we
have
the
the
snow
gates
running
right
now,
and
we
also
are
using
them
in
these
other
shaded
areas
too,
on
the
outskirts.
D
The
thing
is
out
there:
if
we
have
that
have
other
contractors
that
can
help
us
out,
sometimes
we'll
put
them
in
those
areas,
but
so
far
this
season
we've
been
able
to
have
all
these
developments
covered
with
the
snow
gate
too
so
and
that's
with
three
motor
graders
right
there,
so
that
went
pretty
good.
We
started
Saturday
morning
on
this
last
event
at
four
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
by
5:20
that
day
on
Saturday,
we
had
all
the
highways
snow
routes
and
avenues
cleaned
up,
so
that
was
a
pretty
efficient
day.
D
We
had
some
contractor
help
too,
as
you'll
see
in
the
blue
down
here
or
green
whatever
color.
That
is
this
area
here.
We
have
a
contractors,
help
us
out
with
that
and
then
also
out
here
at
derby
downs
in
the
lake.
We
have
a
contractor
that
helps
us
with
that.
So
we
basically
try
to
put
together.
Five
teams
is
what
we
try
to
do
so
and
we
did
try.
You
guys,
probably
curious,
highway
81.
This
is
a
third
time
we've
wind
Road
to
the
center.
D
The
first
time
we
did,
it
I
think
it
took
us
five
and
a
half
hours
to
clean
from
highway
212
and
81
intersection
to
14th
Avenue
intersection
will
hold
all
that
snow
out
completely
and
the
fastest
we've
done
it.
Now,
it's
four
and
a
half
hours,
so
I
thought
that
was
pretty
good.
That's
a
especially
the
last
two
snow
events
have
been
pretty
good
amount
of
snow.
So
so
that's
what
we
have
there.
I
guess
I'm.
E
D
It'd
probably
take
longer,
you
know
we
spend
a
solid
day,
cleaning,
curbside,
sidewalks
and
storage
like
that.
I
think
just
pulling
it
right
to
the
center
right
away,
getting
it
out
of
there.
It
actually
works,
really
well,
I
was
I
was
skeptical,
but
after
we
actually
did
it
this
last
time
we
actually
got
a
semi
I
heard
a
semi
that
come
in
with
a
side
dump
I
was
concerned.
We
won't
be
able
to
get
him
out
of
the
snow
hold
by
the
bakery.
C
D
E
D
A
D
Do
have
a
separate
contractor
that
I've
hired
this
year
to
do
Willow,
Creek
Drive
in
the
south
bypass
and
and
then
Mickelson
driveway,
to
try
to
hit
that
right
away
too
and
McDonald's
area
out
there
by
the
interstate
we
try
to
get
that
stuff.
Early.
A
lot
of
businesses
are
open
early
out
on
Mickelson
Drive
I
think
we
have
a
business
out
there.
That's
open
7
days
a
week,
so
I'll
try
to
keep
that
open
to
say.
E
Rob,
you
may
have
alluded
to
it
or
already
answered
the
question,
but
may
just
make
a
point
of
it.
Those
areas
that
are
contracted
out
don't
necessarily
follow
the
same
schedule
as
the
rest
of
the
places
in
town,
because
I've
had
people
questioning.
You
know
why
you
know,
for
example,
around
the
lake.
Why
is
that
all
plowed
almost
immediately
or
you
know
all
in
one,
you
know
as
soon
as
they
can
get
to
it
and
correct.
D
That
when
we
hire
contractor
generally,
we
try
to
get
going
as
soon
as
a
snow
slows
down
and
the
contractor
is
they
don't
have
the
snow
gates
or
anything
like
that,
but
they
they
like
pinkie
burns,
doing
the
lake
and
Derby
downs
in
that
he
likes
to
start
around
3:30
in
the
morning.
If
the
snow
has
quit
or
slowed
enough
just
because
of
the
traffic
when
you
get
towards
morning,
and
he
had
seven
eight
o'clock,
crews
coming
to
town
to
work,
he
said
it's
just
horrible
dealing
with
the
traffic,
so
he
gets.
D
He
gets
after
it
real
early
I
would
here
we
did
have
Tim
laughs,
Rambo's
and
I
did
put
one
of
our
motor
graders
with
him
right
away
in
the
morning.
I
think
we
started
out
here
at
4:00
a.m.
the
first
day,
and
we
had
that
whole
south
side
of
212
and
east
out
here
by
everything
in
the
green.
Here
we
had
done
by
11:30
that
first
morning
and
we
started
at
4:00
4:00
a.m.
so
there's
not
a
lot
out
there.
But
you
know
compared
to
how
dense
this
area
is
here,
but
there's
enough
yeah.
D
A
D
Okay,
so
I
guess
the
I've
been
looking
into
putting
down
possibility
of
putting
down
Kelsea
or
calcium
chloride,
which
doing
pretreatment
with
salt
brine
and
actually
I
did
some
research
on
what
the
d-o-t
is
doing
and
their
process
and
the
equipment
they
use
in
Clear
Lake
South
Dakota
the
d-o-t
facility
down
there
it's
a
new
facility
and
they
actually
can
you.
Can
you
throw
that.
D
Basically,
what
I'm
looking
at
is
this:
this
production
system
is
what
they
have
there
on.
The
Minnesota
do
T
bid,
which
I'm
not
sure
why
the
are
South
Dakota
do
T
bought
off
a
Minnesota
state
bid,
but
but
they
did
anyway.
They
bought
this
the
system
right
here
for
eleven
thousand
dollars
and
then
the
holding
tanks
to
run
it
in
the
pumps
you'd
have
about
fifteen
thousand
dollars
into
it.
Now.
D
What
we're
looking
at
is
the
possibility
of
doing
pretreatment
on
some
of
our
streets
with
this
pretreatment
you're
good
down
to
about
15
degrees,
anything
below
that
you're
you're,
just
rock
salt,
just
doesn't
really
melt
much,
but
what
you
do
with
the
pretreatment,
if
you
get
it
down
before
the
event
comes,
it
doesn't
allow
the
the
snow
to
stick.
It
heats
it
up
enough
and
it
gets
it
off
the
roads
easier
plus
if
it
does
firm
up
that
can
reactivate.
D
If
you
put
it
down
early
enough,
that
salt
is
the
brine
is
still
good
for
several
days.
So
if
you
would
have
a
snow
event,
you
know
a
day
later
it
still
can
work
and
the
other
thing
the
d-o-t
actually
does
I'm
looking
at
pretreatment,
where
you
actually
put
a
tank
in
the
back
of
a
truck
spray,
it
out
and
basically
on
our
highways
or
a
high
traveled
areas.
E
D
Boxes
and
they
spray
it
into
their
sand,
salt
mix
and
it
actually
helps
activate
the
rock
salt,
and
it
makes
a
rock
salt
stick
to
the
highway
rather
than
just
blowing
right
off
its
kind.
It
kind
of
gets
glue
like
so
but
anyway,
I'm
looking
into
that
and
I
just
want
to
fill
you
guys
in
on
that
too,
it'd
be
about
about
15
grand
to
get
set
up,
pretty
close
to
it
with
the
pumps
and
stuff
you
need
to
get
it
going,
not
sure
how
you
guys
feel
about
pretreatment
and
down
here,
but
tell.
C
D
A
lot
it
is
it's
very
reasonably
priced
to
do
it
this
way.
Let's
see
I
did
have
a
few
facts
written
down
here,
but
I
think
your
savings
would
be
like
four
times
or
was
it
there's
quite
a
savings
to
do
it
this
way
it's
more
effective
to
you
know,
you
can't
use
it
all
the
time
it's
when
you
get
as
cold
as
we
have
been,
it
it'd
be
worthless,
but
you
have
a
day
like
today
where
it
did
warm
up
enough.
D
C
D
Just
melt
it
should
yeah
I
mean
the
d-o-t
has
been
using
it
for
a
while
and
it's
it
works
good
you.
If
you
look
at
some
of
the
stuff
on
highway
20,
where
we
and
our
by
sailboat
landing,
are
plowing
and
sand
and
salt
you
can
see
where
they
put
the
calcium
chloride
down
beyond
that.
Their
roads
are
really
usually
dry
and
that
type
of
thing
it's
there's
a
lot
better
roads.
D
So
the
problem
we
have
on
highways
when
we
put
sand
and
salt
down
a
lot
of
times,
just
the
wind
or
cars
going
over
it,
it
just
blow
it
right
off
the
road.
If
you
do
like
the
d-o-t
does,
and
you
mix
it
in
with
the
sand.
Well
generally,
they
use
rock
salt
occasionally
when
it's
cold
like
this,
they
do
use
sand.
But
you
mix
that
in
it
activates
your
rock
salt
and
it
glues
it
to
the
road.
So
it
doesn't
just
blow
right
off,
but
so
there's
some
advantages,
the
disadvantage.
D
You
know
people
I,
say
it's
harder
on
your
car.
Well,
when
you
put
this
down
ahead
of
time-
and
it
dries
that
doesn't
bother
anything
and
it
actually
works
from
the
bottom
up
when
snow
combs,
so
it
somewhat
protects
your
car
when
we
put
salt,
salt
and
sand
down
a
lot
of
times
it's
on
top
of
the
snow.
So
but
it
has
its
advantages.
C
D
D
E
D
A
A
D
D
Have
the
ball
diamond
next
to
it
in
this
area
here
we're
kind
of
looking
at
the
possibility
of
views
in
this
area
as
a
drive
through
area
for
using
side
dumps
and
get
more
use
out
of
semis.
Currently,
our
cheapest
site
dump
is
ninety
ninety
dollars
an
hour
and
our
tandem
trucks
were
at
about
fifty
six
dollars
an
hour,
but
you
get
about
two
and
a
half
tandem
loads
on
a
semi
so
of
snow
right
now,
so
anyway,
we're
looking
at
that
option.
D
A
Right,
it
would
be
forever,
but
I
think
that's
something
that
we'll
need
some
discussion,
because
I
did
have
a
chance
to
visit
with
utilities
and
they
have
some
fencing.
They
want
to
get
put
up
and
stuff,
and
you
know
it's
always
hard
to
lose.
A
diamond
like
that
right,
I
think
we'll
have
that
discussion.
You
mentioned
you
brought
up
the
semis
that
we're
using
with
just
that's
first
time
that
we
I
can
remember
using
those
on
highway
81
and
literally
guys.
A
E
D
A
Lot,
okay,
I
think
we're
gonna
move
on
and
Leigh.
If
you
want
to
come
up
discussion
on
on
an
officer
safety
product
available
to
the
WPD.
This
was
interesting.
I
got
a
an
email
from
from
a
lady
and
she
was
questioning
this
product
and
it's
what
stop
ambush
calm
I've.
Never
it
was.
It
was
so
Lee
and
I
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it
and
the
cost
that
it
is
to
do
something.
So
if
you'll
just
go
through
and
let
these
guys
know
what
we're
looking
at
any
other
yeah.
F
Like,
like
the
mayor,
said,
he'd
contacted
me
on
this
product
I
hadn't
heard
of
it
before,
but
some
of
our
officers
had
and
I
asked
all
of
our
officers
what
they
thought
of
it,
and
they
all
thought
it
was
a
good
idea.
So
there's
just
a
short
video
I'll
have
Pete
show
you
here.
It's
really
quick,
it's
like
fifty
seconds,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
what
it's
all
about
and
I'll
give
you
a
little
more
information
on
it.
F
So,
on
the
top
there,
you
can
see
those
two
little
round:
cones
those
are
sensors,
so
they
sense
if
somebody's
walking
up
to
your
vehicle
a
lot
of
times.
Our
officers
are
parked
in
parking
lots
alongside
the
road
doing
their
reports
and
they're,
not
necessarily
paying
as
good
attention
as
it
could,
because
they're
writing
a
report,
somebody
walks
up
beside
him
and
knocks
on
a
window
and
kind
of
startles
them.
F
F
Try
it
out
see
how
it's
gonna
work
for
us
they're
about
four
hundred
fifty
bucks,
apiece
field
or
ten
or
more
we'd
need
11
for
all
of
our
cars,
and
so
basically
you
mount
that
one
towards
the
front
of
the
vehicle
one
towards
the
back
of
the
vehicle
and
then,
as
a
people
approach
your
vehicle.
It
sets
off
an
audible,
sound
and
it
also
sets
off
an
arrow.
F
So
you
know
which
direction
they're
coming
from,
and
so
you
can
either
get
out
and
meet
them
or
you
can
just
see
where
they're
coming
from
and
where
they're
at.
So
that's
just
a
real
quick
video.
There
was
no
audio
with
it.
Just
music,
so
I
told
him
to
mute
the
music.
He
didn't
need
the
music
a
little
better
than
hear
from
me
I
guess
so.
That's
the
product
we're
looking
at
when
the
mayor
brought
it
to
my
attention.
I
looked
it
up,
I
thought
it
looked
like
a
nice
project
product
to
try.
F
A
F
C
E
C
F
On
there
and
they're
real
easy
to
install
you
just
basically
pop
a
couple
holes
in
the
roof
and
they
mount
on
there
they're
weatherproof.
You
run
the
wires
to
that
little
drop
down
piece
and
it's
pretty
simple
to
do.
We
have
an
officer
that
does
a
lot
of
our
installations
of
our
radials
and
that
equipment,
so
he'll
be
able
to
do
this
easy
just.
F
The
one
we're
gonna
try
we're
gonna
pay
for
out
of
this
year's
budget
and
then,
if
we
like
them
and
think
it's
a
good
product
for
us,
we'll
buy
the
next
ten.
With
next
year's
budget,
we
had
in
budget
for
our
cars
to
replace
a
digital
ally,
camera
or
the
dash
cameras.
Well
right
now
we're
kind
of
having
some
trouble
with
some
of
those.
So
instead
of
purchasing
another
one,
we're
gonna
use
some
of
that
money
to
purchase
these
and
then
look
at
some
other
type
of
a
camera
for
the
dash
mount.
F
Anything
that
went
by
would
set
it
off
so
I'm,
assuming
what
our
officers
do
is
they'll
park
like
in
a
church
parking
lot
up
north
where
they
park
in
a
lot
or
out
my
shop
cool
they
parked
between
the
buildings
there
and
so
they're
gonna,
be
a
little
ways
away
from
traffic
they'll
find
pretty
soon
that
they'll
get
tired
of
that
beep
going
off
all
the
time,
so
they'll
find
a
place
to
park
where
that
doesn't
happen.
I.
A
A
G
Thank
You
mayor,
essentially
all
the
sheet
piles
have
been
completed
and
he's
finishing
up.
Work
on
the
rear
cap
and
I
do
have
some
photos
here,
so
this
is
looking
down
it
from
the
farm.
This
is
before
the
cap
got
put
on
it.
G
There's
what
the
cap,
mostly
on
he's,
got.
Some
more
he's
got
to
do
with
welding
on
that,
yet
there's
part
of
it
that's
buried
in
this
snow.
This
is
kind
of
looking
along
it
again,
looking
from
one
end
with
it
mostly
completed
so
I'm
gonna
pause
at
this
picture
right
here.
Cuz
one
item:
that's
come
up
since
we
started
this
project
is
in
this
photo.
G
You
can
see,
there's
a
hole
in
each
of
the
sheets
and
that's
a
lifting
hole
for
them
to
put
the
steel
up
in
place
for
them
to
drive
it
down
in
there
and
now
we've
been
contemplating.
Do
we
plug
those
or
leave
them,
and
so
we
did
get
some
prices
to
plug
those
anti
I
will
have
the
discussion
now
and
I
did
prepare
alternate
change
orders.
You
saw
a
change
order
in
your
packet
for
tonight.
That
$500
was
for
a
completely
different
issue,
but
I've
now
put
together.
G
Two
other
alternate
change
orders
for
you
to
consider
it
depending
on
where
you
want
to
go
with
this
discussion
right
now,
so
we
we
did
ask
for
a
price
to
to
have
all
of
those
holes
plugged
and
that
total
price
was
$5,000
and
I
know.
It
sounds
like
a
lot,
but
there's
literally
hundreds
of
holes,
because
these
sheets
are
only
18
inches
wide
and
we
did
350
60
feet
of
sheet
pile.
So
you
can
imagine
how
many
I
didn't
do
the
math,
but
that's
several
hundred,
and
then
we
did
an
alternate.
G
We
said:
okay,
the
worst
place
that
these
holes
may
be
a
problem
is
where
the
actual
breach
was,
and
that's
about
a
hundred
and
fifty
foot
long
stretch,
so
approximately
little
less
than
half
or
around
half
of
that
so
I
put
together.
You
know
change
order
that
covers
about
half
of
the
$5,000.
If,
if
we
just
choose
to
do
the
worst
area,
but
the.
G
They'll
cut
a
little
square
and
then
just
weld
it
a
little
chunk
of
it
on
each
side.
It
will
still
seep,
but
it
wouldn't
fall
through
it
and
that's
a
big
difference,
but-
and
you
can
see
that
that
those
holes
are
all
really
close
to
the
top
of
the
the
weir
and
for
the
most
part,
here's
why
we
even
debated
not
doing
it
anything
to
it,
because
that
was
one
of
our
alternates
and
we
still
could
you
shall
do
it
up
against
this
thing
and
it's
not
like
water
immediately
flowing
through
a
hole.
G
But
but
if
you
get
some
in
the
spring
flood,
where
you
get
the
water
churning
and
boiling
up,
it
might
pull
some
of
that
dirt
away
from
the
wall.
Then
do
you
want
the
holes
plugged
or
not
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
with
the
debate
and
all
I'm
asking
for
input
from
you,
folks
as
to
which
direction
you
think
they
might
want
to
go?
How.
G
C
I
I
don't
think
in
looking
at
the
problems
that
we've
had
with
this.
It
would
be
apparent
on
our
part,
I,
don't
think
well,
I
think
to
not
fix
them
and
do
all
of
them.
Hey
we're
doing
a
lot
of
work
out
there
and
it's
a
very
important
part
of
our
River
and
management
of
the
river
and
the
lake
and
I
would
be
wrong
for
us.
I
think
to
be
a
little
short-sighted
on
over
a
few
dollars.
I
think.
G
G
E
G
G
G
H
A
D
G
Of
course,
another
factor
with
with
doing
a
different
direction
or
with
somebody
else
is
this
needs
to
be
backfilled
I
mean
if
he
backfills
this,
then
that
person's
gonna
have
to
under
it
and
retie
I
mean
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
work.
So
the
timing
is
well
perfect.
If,
if
we
choose
to
hire
him
to
do
it,
but
right
now,
I
mean
I'm
here
at
your
discretion
and.
C
G
A
C
A
A
G
E
A
A
What
I'd
like
to
see
the
ability
is
that
our
department
head
up
in
on
second
floor
building
services
would
be
able
to
make
a
decision
without
having
to
take
it
all
in
front
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
zoning,
and
all
that,
so
these
guys
are
just
going
to
touch
base
with
you
on
that
and
see
you
get
some
thoughts
from
you.
I.
I
Basically,
yes,
I'm.
One
of
the
question
is
right:
now,
as
this
came
up
is
we're
trying
to
we
currently
allow
like,
if
somebody's
a
truck
driver-
and
he
comes
in
and
he
has
a
resume
business
office
out
of
his
own
place,
we
don't
make
him
go
through
that
process.
So
possibly
a
farmer
might
go
through
that
and
have
a
home
business
type
thing,
but
I
go
through
that,
because
nobody's
actually
coming
to
the
door
is
not
taking
deliveries.
Nothing
else.
I
If
you
didn't
tell
you
you
wouldn't
even
know
there
was
a
business
there
for
the
most
thing.
So
there's
a
lot
of
these
places
that
very
have
very
low
impacts
and
know
in
the
neighborhood
and
everything
else
that
we
don't
currently
require
them
to
go
through
the
home
occupation
thing
and
what
we're
hoping
to
do
is
just
kind
of
put
that
into
verbiage.
So
it
kind
of
backs
up
what
I'm
doing.
B
B
More
to
the
point,
you
know
what
Ken's
talking
about
in
terms
of
the
impacts
of
a
development
or
a
impacts
of
a
business
use
here,
really
what
zoning
ordinances
are
concerned
about,
fundamentally,
is
making
sure
things
are
properly
where
they
should
be,
and
if
a
complaint
isn't
made
about
the
nature
of
the
business
use,
there
isn't
a
concern
necessarily
from
the
public,
about
something
being
where
it
shouldn't
be.
As
a
result,
we
don't
hear
about
it,
we
don't
know
about
it
and
really
what
this
ordinance
does
is
reflect
this
reality.
I
would
say
this.
B
This
proposed
language
does
do
that
and
below
that
language.
There
I
listed
where
this
this
substance
comes
from,
that
it
comes
from
a
national
model,
ordinance
compendium
that
that
policy
again
as
Ken
pointed
out,
comes
from
city
of
water,
towns,
long-standing
practice
and
as
I
alluded
to
you
know
it
reflexively
the
practical
reality
at
play
here
that
you
know
that
that
being
said,
you
know
we
we
try
to
incorporate
as
many
of
the
elements
of
traditional
nuisance
theory
things
that
you
wouldn't
want.
Next
to
your
residence,
be
it
foul,
Lord,
odors
and
smells
traffic
concerns.
B
You
know
intrusions
by
the
public
in
general
into
an
otherwise
quiet
residential
area,
the
one
item-
and
there
may
be
a
few
other
items
that
could
be
included
in
there.
Obviously
that
last
bullet
point
down
below
talks
about
how
there
may
be
certain
types
of
existing
business
uses
that
we
view
as
conditional
uses
that
may
otherwise
fit
those
criteria
up
there,
but
still
should
be
regulated
more.
You
know
whether
that
be
daycares,
in-home,
daycares
or
what-have-you
that
currently
receive
a
good
amount
of
scrutiny
from
the
Board
of
Adjustment.
B
Those
are
all
items
to
consider,
but
as
a
starting
point
for
a
further
discussion,
really
what
this
comes
down
to
is
making
sure
policy
is
reflected
in
ordinance
and
that
it
accounts
for
advances
in
technology.
As
mayor
pointed
out,
be
a
telecommuting
or
a
lot
of
the
less
overhead
capital
intensive
employee,
intensive
businesses
that
now
can
be
had
in
one's
own
apartment
house,
what-have-you.
B
Up
today
has
just
sort
of
an
on-the-spot
suggestion,
and
we
would
certainly
want
to
make
sure
that
you
get
a
copy
of
this
and
I
would
include
within
that
copy.
A
definition
of
home
occupations
which
we
have
in
title
21,
where
other
references
to
home
occupational
titles
so
I'd
make
sure
that
it's
more
comprehensive
than
just
this
paper.
But
yeah
we'll
make
sure
you
get
that
it.
E
I
A
degree
and
it's
just
trying
to
cut
through
some
of
the
red
tape
and
not
make
them
go
through
a
process
that
doesn't
gonna
really
matter
one
way
or
the
other,
and
you
know
six
weeks,
time,
$200
minimum
for
them
just
to
go
and
ask
and
everything
else,
and
it's
given
us
some
leeway
that,
and
even
when
you
say,
building
official
trust
me
I
always
take
this
to
a
panel
of
six
or
eight
of
us.
So
we
have
a
open
discussion
and
it's
just
not
something.
I
E
H
I
E
I
E
I
I
A
E
Most
most
people
don't
realize
they're
actually
running
a
business.
Other
home
I
mean
like
you,
you
know
you
get
a
business
just
did
they
get
twenty
employees
that
do
their
work
from
their
home
so
and
they
don't
realize
that?
That's
legally
is
our
ordinance
reads.
Now
it's
it's.
They
should
have
a
permit,
so
yeah.
A
I
think
Glenn,
like
you
mentioned
your
business,
has
that
I
think
First,
Premier,
Bank
bank
card
has
people
operating
out
of
their
homes
to
in
telecommunication
and
and
collecting,
and
things
such
as
that.
So
it's
it
it's
a
big
deal.
So
we
just
wanted
to.
You
know
change
the
ordinance
a
little
bit,
so
people
really
are
within
the
law.
This
was
first
blush
at
this.
Yeah
Justin
only
have
a
lot
more
and
we
would
expect
more
input
on
this
as
as
time
goes
on,.
A
A
What's
going
on
just
to
give
you
a
little
update,
the
design
team
is
visiting
shields
ice
Plex
next
week
for
some
lessons
learned
that
will
be
actually
this
week,
RS
architects
contract
received
from
the
city
grays
is
anticipated
on
the
1219
council
agenda.
You'll
see
that
tonight
survey
it
hasn't
seen
that
they
haven't
seen
that
yet
Gary
from
from
iris
architects
will
be
following
up
on
that.
Geotech
is
doing
soil
reports.
They've
had
some
exploratory
testing,
they
did
more.
We
would
expect
to
see
those,
and
what
that
will
do
is
that
will
determine
our
field.
A
It'll
determine
what
types
of
footings.
What
they're
finding
is
it's
generally
good
soil,
but
there
is
a
need
in
certain
areas
with
some
imported
soil.
Jay
has
a
questionnaire
out
he's
going
out
to
the
city
and
user
organizations
with
the
help
of
Tim
status.
Right
now,
a
figure-skating
has
returned
their
information
on
the
skating
rink.
We
have
not
heard
yet
from
the
hockey
team,
nor
yet
the
liens
or
anything
from
curling.
So
we
would
expect
that
those
people
would
need
to
get
that
to
us
rather
soon.
A
So
if
they
have
concerns
about
the
ice
facility,
they
will
need
to
do
that.
Rs.
Architects
is
currently
updating
the
model
model.
Reviewing
the
code,
the
structural
design,
the
footings
and
so
forth
established
a
nice
meeting
with
Stephens
and
the
city
to
determine
the
level
of
the
boards.
That's
the
hockey
boards
in
there.
They
expect
that
by
early
January
and
Gary
from
iris,
architects
is
coordinating.
They
coordinating
that
Aris.
A
Architects
will
also
distribute
CAD
files
today,
targeting
meetings
just
give
it
give
you
a
little
idea
towards
end
here:
early
January,
the
ice
sheet
details
with
Stevens
other
schematic
design,
detailed,
coordinated
items
end
to
January,
better
RS,
architects
document
review
of
detailed
estimates
to
February
is
a
GMP
buyout
estimate,
review
and
end
of
March
is
a
GMP
finalization.
This
is
all
being
really
taken
care
of
by
Nate
Peterson
from
tegra.
Who
is
our
owners
rep?
It's
it's
a
wonderful
way
of
doing
it.
A
C
Just
I'm
trying
to
look
at
a
worst-case
scenario
here,
because
we've
heard
a
lot
of
different
numbers
of
what
we
might
expect
for
a
project
cost.
How
does
look,
let's
just
say
the
bids,
and
it
just
come
in
significantly
higher
than
what
we've
all
thought
all
along?
What
does
that
mean
to
the
work?
That's
going
into
this
to
the
grays,
to
the
do
the
RSA's
very.
A
C
A
A
What
we're
looking
for
is
a
GMP
finalization
at
the
end
of
March.
Well,
that
should
be
when
we
have
that
the
maximum
price
and
the
CMA
are
is
looking
for
that
maximum
price.
We
will
know
what
the
cost
of
facility
is
at
the
end
of
March,
yep
and,
and
what
that
really
means
is
that
he
will
you
know
we
did
this
through
the
whole
process
up
on
the
northeast
up
there
at
the
Wellness
Center
he'll
have
all
those
bids
go
on
and
we'll
be
ready
to.
If
everything
comes
in
we're
expecting
them,
we
should
be.
A
E
A
Actually
came
in
extremely
well,
you
know
the
currently,
the
the
contingency
fund
is
sitting
there
around
I.
Think
480
490,
if
I'm
not
mistaken
that,
if
we
don't
spend
any
more
dollars
on
it,
that
will
come
back
to
the
city.
You
know
the
original.
If
I
remember
right,
might
help
me
on
this
or
Bruce.
Was
it
not
when
we
first
sat
down
around
that
28
million
dollars,
and
then
we
did
this
through
value
engineering
we
brought
it
down,
brought
it
down
bar
it
down
we're
under
21
million
dollars.
A
You
do
the
value
engineering
there's
certain
things
that
you
pull
out
and
you
look
at
it
say
who
shouldn't
have
done
man,
you
know
so.
There's
there's
one
instance
in
the
in
the
pool
area.
It
was
all
great
concrete
walls
and
we
looked
at
it
and
just
for
it
really
needed
us.
We
got
those
painted,
but
it's
amazing
things
are
expensive.
It
was.
A
Way
to
do
it
for
the
taxpayers,
it
was
a
good
process
and
that's
why
we're
using
the
same
process
on
the
ice
facility
and
I
would
hope.
It's
the
same
thing,
although
you
know
you're
looking
at
a
project,
that's
a
third
of
what
it
was.
So
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
value
engineer
that
much
out
of
it,
but
hopefully
it'll
come
back.
You
know
they
look
at
that.
That's
one
of
the
things
they
did
up
there
is
that
the
soil.
A
You
know
they
were
able
to
move
the
building,
just
a
short
distance
and
save
us
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars.
You
know
when
I
look
at
this
and
they
say
you
know,
there's
area
that
they
have
to
have
certain
soils
in
there.
Maybe
we
need
to
move
it
just
a
little
bit
and,
and
that
will
be
a
call
to
grow
and
our
value
engineering
will
do
for
us.
H
There's
two
items
that
are
on
tonight's
council
agenda
that
affect
Park
Recreation
and
forestry
department
projects
and
Mara
Thorson.
Just
wanted
me
to
highlight
those
projects
a
little
bit.
One
is
on
the
consent
agenda
and
that's
the
authorization
for
the
Parks
Recreation
and
forestry
department
to
apply
for
a
grant
from
the
Tony
Hawk
foundation
to
fund
some
additional
features
for
the
skate
park.
Originally,
the
council
budgeted
one
hundred
and
eighty
five
thousand
for
the
skate
park
and
the
stakeholders
group
mosquitoes
themselves.
H
They
wanted
to
see
some
additional
features
in
the
park,
so
the
task
was
placed
on
them
to
raise
the
additional
funding
which
they
have
been
getting
out
and
they've
been
raising
some
funds,
I
think
they're
up
over
$9,000
in
funds
that
they
praise
so
just
to
try
and
assist
them
in
their
project.
The
Tony
Hawk
Foundation
grant
it
ranges
from
a
thousand
to
twenty-five
thousand
and
I
would
actually
be
the
person
responsible
for
submitting
that
grant,
but
try
and
get
him
to
that
level.
Just
on
the
authorization
to
move
forward
with
that.
H
The
other
project
that
appears
on
the
regular
agenda
is
the
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
sign
a
joint
powers
agreement
with
the
game,
fish
and
parks
for
assessable
fishing
pier
on
McLaughlin
pond.
Now
this
would
be
very,
very
similar
to
the
one
that's
on
lions
park
now
and
it
would
go
right
off
the
end
of
magoffin
Park
Nature
Area
be
very
accessible
and
work
out
real
well
I've
spoken
with
the
game
fishing
parks.
H
They
stocked
that
with
250
northern
last
year
and
their
plans
moving
forward
would
be
to
put
blue
gill
300
additional
northern
pike
and
300
white
bass
to
get
that
started,
and
basically
the
urban
fishery
idea
is
a
great
concept
very
popular
right
now,
and
the
idea
is
to
get
kids
hooked
on
fishing.
So
this
would
be
a
be
a
great
way
of
doing
that
in
a
very
nice
area.
I
think
would
work
out
really
well.
E
So
it's
not
all
just
the
fishing
part
of
it,
though
I
mean
you
take
a
area
like
that
and
in
the
same
with
lions
park
you
know
you
see
people
just
down
there
enjoying
the
the
weather.
When
you
know
in
the
summer
months
a
don't
always
be
fishing
put
it
that
way,
but
just
nice
way
to
get
out
and
enjoy.
H
H
A
H
A
G
The
two
agreements
that
are
that
we're
asking
for
permission
to
have
the
mayor
sign
our
annual
maintenance
agreements.
One
in
the
amount
of
$20,000
is
our
ongoing
maintenance
worth
every
time.
We
have
an
item,
come
through
the
Planning
Commission
and
come
through
the
council
that
you
know
those
get
items
get
updated
on
our
GIS
monthly
according
to
the
contract
and
then
they
they
so
anytime.
We
change
something
within
our
city
footprint.
G
They
they
implement
that
through
our
GIS
and
then
they
also
get
data
from
the
county
and
various
other
entities
that
are
included
in
that
as
well
and
then
like
at
the
end
of
the
year.
For
us,
we
put
together
all
of
our
house
bill
information.
If
we
put
three
new
blocks
of
sanitary
sewer
in
someplace
that
gets
upgraded
on
the
maps
and
they
are
in
the
offseason.
G
So
that's
what
that
work
all
entails,
and
then
the
other
contract
is
a
kind
of
a
subsidy
of
that
is
they
also
maintain
a
website
that
the
general
public
can
go
use.
The
first
one
I
talked
about
is
just
for
our
city
use
in
the
county,
see
what
the
other
one
is,
that
same
data
in
a
boil
down
version
is
made
available
to
the
public,
and
so
they
update
that
website.
Accordingly
and
the
general
public
uses
that
data.
E
C
Know
I
just
had
some
questions
about.
You
know.
What
are
we
really
getting
for?
That
I
mean
it's
not
a
huge
amount
of
money,
but
we've
been
doing
it
for
probably
close
to
ten
years.
I
would
guess
you
know
and
I
think
it'd
be
nice
to
have
some
of
that
information.
What
we
really
do
get
and
I
know
we
don't
have
to
provide
a
person
that
just
works
with
the
GIS
stuff,
but
you
know
it
just
seemed
like
forty
five
hundred
bucks
to
host.
That
just
seems
like
a
lot.
C
I,
don't
know
what
kind
of
usage
it
gets.
We
got
ten
people
looking
at
of
the
year.
We
got
five
thousand
I,
don't
know,
but
I
just
I
think
it'd
be
nice
to
know
and
I
did
ask
Todd
I
said
you
know
what
what
kind
hours
do
you
dedicate
to
that
roughly
in
an
annual
basis?
So
I
would
like
to
see
some
more
of
that
information
before
we
just
continue
to
pay
this
fee
year
after
year
and
I'm
not
saying
it's
bad,
you
know
there.
C
A
G
A
Every
Tuesday
meeting
and,
of
course,
first
District
is
there
representing
the
county
and
ourselves.
You
know
understanding
what's
going
on
within
our
three-mile
radius,
they're
working
on
that
they
keep
us
updated.
Any
capital
is
anything
that
they're
doing
they
just
put
in
a
ton
of
hours
for
us
and
it's
a
lot
of
work
just.
C
They
also
do
every
year
in
March
around
the
time
that
we
do
our
financial
statements.
We
do
ask
them
and
WDC
to
come
and
do
a
presentation
on
what
they've
done
in
the
past
year
what
services
they
provide,
what
they
have
done.
So
if
you
want
them
to
be
more
detailed
about
something
you
can
maybe
let
them
know
at
that
time,
but
they
you
know
it's
not
at
this
renewal
time,
but
they
do
give
an
annual
report
of
what
was
done.
The
services
they
provided
that
type
of
stuff.
A
A
Roger
Foote
is
looking
into
if
there's
grants
available
for
the
city
of
Watertown,
whether
it's
through
the
the
DNR
or
whether
it's
through
the
the
federal
government
or
what
we
can
do,
but
we
were
talking
about
Lake,
Camp
ESCA.
You
know
guys.
We've
sat
around
for
a
hundred
years
now
and
and
watched
it
fill
up
and
and
continually
get
full
of
sludge
and
and
mud
and
we're
losing
that
so
I
asked
Roger.
If
he
would
would
look
into
that.
A
I
had
an
opportunity
to
visit
with
the
city
manager
at
Storm,
Lake,
Iowa
I
bet,
I
spent
30
35
minutes
on
the
phone
with
him.
I
wished
he
had
an
800
number,
but
he
didn't,
but
we
talked
about
they've
been
dredging.
Now
they
have
dredged
storm
lake
for
18
years.
They
bought
the
dredge,
and
then
they
hired
a
company
out
of
Kansas
City
that
actually
does
it
for
them.
It's
interesting
what
they
do.
A
They
haven't
concepts
that
they've
done
in
that
Lake
and
they've
they've
created
islands,
and
you
kind
of
think
about
the
islands
out
here,
but
it
does
a
couple
of
things.
It
helps
your
fishery
out
there
and
it
also
breaks
up
the
wave
action
that
comes
and
tears
up
your
your
shorelines.
You
know
if
they're
out
there,
so
they
built
Islands,
they
do
rip
wrapping
around
them
and
do
things
like
that.
They
also,
then
they
created
that
they
actually
bought
farmland,
I'm
thinking
we
could
use
the
airport
if
it's
possible.
A
If
we
ever
were
to
come
to
this
point,
but
they
bought
70
acres
and
actually
they
bought
more
than
70,
because
they
dug
a
hole,
40
foot
deep
on
70
acres.
They
then
start
dredging
and
I
said
well.
Are
you
taking
on
inches
or
feet,
or
what
are
you
doing
when
you
take
that
out?
He
said
they've
taken
down
in
certain
areas
of
that
lake
15
feet
the
over
the
last
18
years,
they've
actually
removed
over
10
million
cubic
yards
of
sludge
out
of
that
lake.
A
So
there's
some
places
in
the
lake
and
storm
lake
that
are,
you,
know,
25
26,
foot
deep
and
it's
turned
into
a
great
fishery.
It's
not
cheap
by
any
means.
That's
why
we
need
to
look
and
see
if
there's
grants
available
for
US
dollars
available
for
us
get
the
lake
involved.
It's
something
that
I
think
over
the
years.
We
really
need
to
look
at
I
know.
I
was
talking
to
Greg
forsberg
the
other
day
and
he
said
Steve.
You
need
to
look
at
it
like.
How
do
you?
A
How
do
you
eat
an
elephant
and
when
you
do
that,
you
eat
an
elephant
one
bite
at
a
time
we
have
what
50
350
400
acres
on
our
lake
Jay,
something
like
that.
Storm
Lake
was
3,200,
acres
and
I
could
say
it's
taken
them
18
years,
they'll
be
done
next
year,
maybe
something
we
need
to
look
at
and
just
get
some
information.
What's?
What's
it
really
cost
my
understanding
from
Storm
Lake,
it's
a
buck
and
a
half
a
cubic
yard
to
take
it
out.
A
They
averaged
out
about
six
hundred
thousand
cubic
yards
a
year
is
what
they're
taking
out
of
there.
So
you
can
do
the
math,
it's
it's
over
a
million
bucks
just
for
them
just
for
the
sill,
but
they
put
it
into
that
big
soil
pond
and
then
the
water
rises
up.
The
the
silk
goes
down.
The
water
rises
up
comes
back
into
the
lake
interesting
concepts.
So
if
you
don't
mind
I'm
going
to
continue
to
investigate
and
look
and
see
if
there's
something
we
can
do
for
our
lake.
C
I've
been
in
favor
of
you
and
I
have
talked
about
that
I'm
glad
to
see
something
gets
this
discussion
get
started
because
it
just
kind
of
lingers
out
there
but,
like
you
said,
take
a
bite
out
of
it,
let's
at
least
our
looking
at
it
and
find
out
what
the
obstacles
are
and
now
what's
the
worst
case
that
you
know,
there's
it
if
you
just
if
it
can't
happen
at
camp,
but
it's
never
going
to
happen.
If
we
don't
make
an
effort.
A
You're
right,
you're
absolutely
right
bill.
It's
something
has
to
be
done.
Some
have
suggested
just
take
some
whites,
you
know
swaths
down
the
middle
of
the
lake
and
get
it
going,
but
we
need
to
somehow
look
at
our
lake
confess
again
and
try
to
bring
it
back
any
other
questions
I'm
going
to
move
forward
with
that
I.
Don't
have
anything
else,
so
I
think
what
I
will
do
is
I
will
adjourn
this
meeting
we'll
be
back
at
7
o'clock.
Thank
you.