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A
C
A
D
E
B
Three
ordinance
amendments
that
will
be
before
you
today
are
what
we
discussed
as
new
business
last
meeting
and
I
made
the
changes
that
we
had
come
to,
and
these
new
resolutions
reflect
that
so
resolution.
2017
28
is
clarifying
that
incomplete
construction
projects
will
lapse
with
lapse
building
permits.
Our
public
nuisances
and
the
change
that
we
came
to
with
that
is
saying
any
lapse
of
a
building
permit
when
construction
of
the
permitted
building
has
not
been
completed
shall
render
the
building
a
public
nuisance
and
unlawful
for
not
being
completed
within
a
reasonable
amount
of
time.
F
G
G
A
G
When
I
was
speaking,
I
didn't
realize
you
hadn't
been
presented
with
this
28
okay,
this
28
takes
the
place
of
the
28.
That's
in
the
agenda.
It
says
exactly
the
same
thing
it
just
doesn't
have
all
of
the
language
that
is
not
affected
by
the
amendment
in
that.
So
this
is
what
I
would
suggest
you
adopt.
The
illustration
which
will
be
presented
in
this
one
and
in
the
next
one
in
29
is
just
to
show
in
the
context
of
the
broader
ordinance,
the
actual
language
changes.
How.
D
G
A
G
A
A
D
Basically,
what
what
did
what
my
understanding
is
is
the
format
that
we
received,
and
we
discussed
last
month
us
in
our
packets
about
two
pages
to
discuss
the
change
of
being
less
than
a
paragraph
by
approving
it
in
this
fashion
and
mocking
the
motion
to
the
City
Council,
and
they
do
it.
So
when
we
publish
in
the
newspaper
this
is
all
that
gets
published
as
opposed
to
the
two
pages
that
basically
covers
the
same
thing,
its
language.
We
don't
need
to
or
cost
we
don't
need
to
incur
exactly.
B
D
C
D
B
Now
last
week,
when
we
had
disco
or
not
last
week,
last
meeting
when
we
had
discussed
this,
we
had
talked
about
referring
to
title
21
of
the
revised
city,
ordinance
our
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Watertown
as
this
ordinance.
So
we
just
clarified
that
here
and
after
it
would
be
called
this
ordinance,
so
we
didn't
have
to
change
it
to
title
21.
Each
time.
B
We
ended
up
keeping
that
the
instead
of
60
days,
it
would
now
be
30
days
and
that
is
for
such
Appeals
shall
be
taken
within
a
reasonable
time
not
to
exceed
30
days,
and
that
was
just
for
consistency
if
we
decided
to
keep
that
the
same
as
proposed
previously
and
then
in
any
case
where
the
holder
of
a
conditional
use
permit
issued
under
city,
zoning
ordinance
has
not
been
instituted.
The
use
or
begun
construction,
as
applicable
within
one
year
of
the
date
of
approval.
The
permit
shall
be
null
and
void.
B
Similarly,
any
such
conditional
use
upon
its
cessation
or
abandonment
for
a
period
of
one
year
will
be
deemed
to
have
been
terminated
and
we
decided
to
cross
the
language
of
and
any
future.
You
shall
be
in
conformity
with
zoning
ordinance
because
that's
understood
and
then
the
we
struck.
The
proposed
language
of
variances
granted
by
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
shall
be
treated
as
non-conforming
uses
pursuant
to
chapter
20
104
and
shall
otherwise
lapse
in
the
construction.
B
If
the
construction
authorized
by
the
variance
has
not
yet
begun
within
one
year
of
the
date
of
approval
and
changed
it
to
a
variance
granted
by
the
Board
of
Adjustment
shall
expire
one
year
from
the
date
upon
which
it
becomes
effective.
If
no
construction
authorized
by
the
variance
has
commenced
upon
written
request
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment
and
prior
to
variance
expiration
date,
a
1-year
time
extension,
the
variance
may
be
granted
by
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
and
that
was
language
requested
by
the
board.
A
C
What
would
be
the
process,
then?
If
somebody
right,
you
still
understand
it,
does
the
gather
go
just
like
a
regular
Board
of
Adjustment
things
might
pay
the
thing
go
through
all
the
notifications
adjacent
landowners
and
everything
else
are:
can
they
just
basically
submit
us
a
letter
and
we
can
bring
it
to
a
meeting
and
take
care
of
it
as
okay.
G
C
G
B
That
the
this
language,
up
after
notice
by
certified
mail
to
the
property
owners,
may
cause
the
elimination
of
such
non-conforming
use.
We
decided
to
keep
that
language
and
the
only
thing
that
we
changed
on
this
ordinance
is
the
clarity
of
discontinued
or
abandoned
and
I.
Think
that
reads:
okay,
if
such
a
non-conforming
use
is
discontinued
or
abandoned
for
more
than
one
year,
the
building
official
after
notice
by
certified
mail
to
the
property
owners
may
cause
the
elimination
of
such
non-conforming
use.
G
A
B
B
So
the
petitioner
is
Tyler
a
Branca.
He
requests
to
vacate
a
portion
of
the
alley
right
away
and
this
old
subdivision.
The
reason
that
petitioners
requesting
vacation
is
because
the
alley
is
obstructed
by
a
private
residence
and
fence
which
render
the
area
unsuitable
for
vehicular
trap
travel.
The
plots
of
lot
G
of
caboose,
subdivision
and
lot
for
a
of
salt
subdivision
are
adjusting
the
lot
lines
still
preserving
the
10-foot
alley
right
avoid
the
adjacent
landowners
are
Casey
and
Catherine
Lawrence
of
eleven
straight
rentals.
B
The
plat
of
lot
for
a
is
showing
that
portion
of
the
alley
that
is
being
vacated
so
with
the
portion
of
the
alley.
That's
highlighted
in
the
green,
yellow
and
orange
dashes
the
plat
of
lot
G
is
taking
a
part
of
Casey
Lawrence's
property
that
will
be
part
of
the
alley
when
it's
replanted
and
the
dashed
orange
is
the
part
of
lot
for
a
that
will
be
vacated
and
added
to
Tyler
bring
those
properties.
B
A
A
H
H
Feedback,
sorry,
anyway,
so
this
effort
is
to
shift
the
alley
over,
make
it
whole
there
we
go.
My
wire
has
a
bats
button
and
leave
that
fence
intact
on
in
its
place.
So
but.
A
H
Yes,
the
improvement,
the
improved
portion
of
the
Allie
will
not
be
relocated,
but
we
are
doing
is
accommodating
making
sure
that
there's
a
10-foot,
clear
path
through
there,
because
the
fence
was
encroaching
on
the
existing
10-foot
path
so
and
the
landowner
to
the
north
agreed
to
give
approximately
four
feet
of
area
and
dedicate
that
as
as
a
Lee
and
utility
easement.
So
we,
the
net
loss
to
the
city
and
the
public,
is
zero.
A
So
we
are
basically
accommodating
the
owners
of
lot
for,
but
I
have
a
concern
with
a
10-foot
wide
alley
and
a
10-foot
wide
entrance
into
that
alley.
If
that
landowner
would
build
a
fence
to
the
point
of
his
property
line,
it
would
be
darn
near
impossible
to
get
a
truck
and
trailer
into
that
alley.
So
I
would,
if
we're
accommodating
that
landowner.
I
would
like
to
see
that
landowner
accommodate
us
by
allowing
a
10-foot.
A
H
I
you,
the
existing
Ally
I'm,
just
for
clarification.
The
existing
ally
easement
has
never
been
greater
than
10
feet,
and
so,
but.
A
F
B
C
They
can
go
within
one
foot
of
the
property
line
start
with,
but
then
there's
also
Clearview
triangle
there
that
the
Clearview
triangle,
though,
wouldn't
satisfy
everything
that
John's
trying
to
suggest.
So,
even
if
it's
not
an
easement,
even
if
there's
just
a
noted
restriction
that
no
fence
can
be
built
within
ten
feet
of
the.
D
C
Westerley
property
line
or
something
well,
it's
just
not
so
much
a
sidewalk
that
we
were
worried
about
I
think
is
yeah
the
sidewalk
per
se,
but
it's
actually
the
first
ten
in
the
short,
the
short
leg
there
and
the
line
is
to
stay
back
there.
So
somebody
tries
to
turn
in
there.
They
wouldn't
tear
out
a
fence
or
damage
your
vehicles
or
anything
else
so,
and
maybe
that
could
just
be
done
by
a
note
instead
of
an
easement
or
something
on
the
plan,
I
don't
know
actually.
H
H
A
A
C
H
H
I'm,
just
specularly
and
I
guess
I'll
have
to
ask
some
questions,
but
my
guess
is
is
that
they
built
that
entrance
to
accommodate
what
they
thought
was
gonna
be
a
10-foot
wide
alley.
It
may
not
have
dictated
the
width
of
the
entrance.
However,
we
would
always
try
to
push
it
as
far
away
from
the
intersection.
A
B
A
F
A
B
F
G
Finding
it
correctly
stating
it
precisely
as
part
of
the
restriction
at
this
point
as
it
affects
this
gentleman,
you
know
that
could
have
been
worked
out.
I
mean
it's,
it's
no
different
than
any
other
plant
with
the
restrictions
that
we
have
in
place,
but
you
work
those
out
ahead
of
time,
as
opposed
to.
F
H
F
C
D
H
Okay,
safe
I'm
speculating
here,
but
our
agenda
for
council
items
gets
developed
tomorrow
and
Monday
Tuesday.
If
by
chance,
I
don't
get
or
they
don't
have
time
to
react
to
this
most
likely.
Then
it
will
just
simply
move
back
to
the
second
meeting
in
October.
Just
for
reference.
A
B
D
A
H
D
A
B
E
B
A
D
The
Canton
County
in
the
city
of
Watertown
sharing
authority
in
an
area
outside
of
city
limits
and
the
board
makeup
is
of
three
County
representatives
and
two
city
representatives.
The
the
city
currently
has
mr.
Stein
and
I
believe
former
chair
mr.
Shriver
sat
on
that
board
was:
was
there
an
alternate
or.
D
D
Basically,
the
what
for
that
board
to
be
complete?
You
ever
need
to
be
to
planning
commissioners
from
the
city
of
Watertown
and
to
act
on
the
board,
and
then
one
would
be
an
alternate.
So
we
need
three
appointments
but
depending
on,
if
you're
gonna
be
the
option,
if
you're
gonna
move
up
in
the
world,
I.
A
D
F
B
F
E
D
F
D
It
might
be
three,
you
might
get
three
three
meetings
in
a
row
and
then
not
see
each
other
for
four
months
and
it's
usually
a
single
item.
It's
always
done
in
conjunction
with
the
client
encounter
you
zoning
board,
so
it's
on
a
Monday
night
or
during
the
winter
and
or
during
the
summer
and
then
usually
Monday
mornings.
During
the
winter
months,
I
I'm,
recusing,
myself,
I
don't
have
the
ability
to
serve
on
that
board
as
Luke
Muller
is
the
Zoning
officer
and
he's
also
an
employee
of
mine.