►
From YouTube: City Council Meeting 7 16 2018
Description
Agenda Items include Ordinance No. 18-07, 18-12, 18-13 & 18-14. Also included is a Special retail malt beverage license and a Lease agreement.
C
D
B
E
B
E
A
F
A
By
Councilwoman,
manty
and
second
by
Councilman,
Y
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
item.
Number
two
is
public
comment,
and
this
is
the
time
set
aside
for
citizens
who
would
like
to
speak
on
a
topic
which
is
not
on
the
agenda
if
there
anyone
here
that
would
like
to
do
so.
A
A
A
Never
mind
okay,
so
we're
going
to
add
item
21,
see
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
sign
a
mosquito
control
grant
to
the
old
business
agenda
and
remove
items
11
and
12
which
have
to
do
with
the
mansell
addition.
They
requested
that
those
items
be
removed
from
the
agenda
there.
Any
other
changes
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
revised
agenda,
move
by
Councilman
Solem
second,
by
Councilman
Albertson
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
It
was
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay,
motion
carries
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
Is
appointment
of
dr.
A
Jerry
Reiber
to
the
airport
board
and
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
dr.
riper
as
a
willing
participant
on
that
board
and
I
asked
him
his
address
and
noticed
that
he
lived
outside
the
city
limits
so
I
looked
up
technically.
I
cannot
appoint
anyone
outside
the
city
limits
to
the
airport
board,
but
it
has
been
done
in
the
past,
so
a
precedent
has
been
set.
There
is
currently
one
member
of
the
airport
board.
That's
been
on
there
for
a
number
of
years,
who
also
lives
outside
the
city
limits.
A
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
ask
for
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
recommend
dr.
Reiber
to
be
appointed
to
the
board
and
ask
that
you
revise
the
ordinance
to
include
not
just
that
a
person
be
a
city
resident,
but
someone
who
also
could
possibly
serve
because
they
have
a
stake
in
the
community
and
try
to
figure
out
how
to
say
that
so
I'm
saying
either
owns
property
in
the
city
limits
or
has
a
job
in
the
city
limits.
A
A
H
A
So
someone
living
outside
wouldn't
necessarily
have
any
tie
to
Watertown
I,
guess
that
you
could
review
that
at
the
time
that
an
appointment
was
recommended
so
and
the
ordinance
has
to
come
before
you
I,
don't
anticipate
that
the
board
would
be
taking
any
action
in
the
near
future.
So
it
really
isn't
a
pressing
in
need
right
now,
but
dr.
Ivers
been
coming
to
the
board
meetings
and
already
been
serving
so
appreciate
that
so
their
motion
so.
C
A
I
G
As
the
mayor
mentioned,
there's
already
somebody
there
has
been
somebody
on
the
board.
That's
been
serving
outside
of
the
community
as
long
as
there's
no
actions
to
be
taken
in
the
near
future.
That
could
potentially
be
invalidated
because
there
was
an
illegal
member
on
the
board.
I,
don't
see
an
issue
with
this
as
long
as
we
get
it
taken
care
of
in
the
next
month
or
two,
maybe.
A
F
A
D
D
A
A
A
A
A
A
Anyway,
I
will
go
ahead
and
just
thank
the
volunteers
who
have
done
this
I
drove
by
the
roundabout
recently
and
noticed
that
it's
very
beautiful
and
I
knew
that
there
were
volunteers,
weeding
it
and
it's
a
lot
of
hard
work
and
I
have
some
pictures
of
that.
The
plantings
in
the
roundabout
were
done
at
no
cost
to
the
city
last
year
and
there
were
the
game:
fish
and
parks,
the
Watertown
Community
Foundation
and
the
Coddington
Conservation
District,
all
supplied
funds
and
labor
and
plants
for
native
plantings
and.
A
Trying
to
think
of
the
name
of
what
you
call
that
Mary
helped
me
the
the
type
of
plants
that
were
put
in
there
to
pollinators
pollinator
plants.
Thank
you
brandy.
These
are
some
of
the
pictures.
A
lot
of
people
worked
to
make
the
roundabouts
beautiful
and
I
did
see
some
comments
on
social
media
about.
Why?
A
Don't
we
plant
the
roundabouts
with
something
it's
just
a
bunch
of
weeds,
well
and
I-
knew
at
that
time
that
it
had
been
planted
with
native
pollinators,
and
it
kind
of
made
me
sad
now
it
looks
fantastic
and
it
you
know
it
takes
a
while
before
those
things
take
root,
and
it
also
takes
a
lot
of
work,
and
this
was
at
no
cost
to
the
public
and
I
want
to
say
a
few
names
Barb's
drew.
He
asked
the
question:
is
it
okay
for
citizens
to
weed
the
roundabout?
A
We
also
have
volunteers
that
have
planted
and
maintained
the
plantings
in
numerous
other
parks,
including
Laurie's
garden,
downtown
I,
think
Jan
Johnson
does
that
and
also
Kathy
DeCarlo
sixth
Street
circle
behind
the
Elks
now
Joe,
McCarthy
and
others
in
that
neighborhood
have
put
forward
Beth
Monte,
that's
her
neighborhood.
A
lot
of
people
have
worked
hard
in
the
zoo,
there's
a
park
where
volunteers
come
in,
including
Darlene
Gilman.
We
have
volunteers
throughout
our
community
working
very
hard
and
they
aren't
being
paid
and
they're
not
getting
a
lot
of
recognition.
A
E
Oh
yeah
I
would
just
like
to
say
thank
you
very
much
it.
It
helps
make
our
city
just
come
together
and
it's
great
to
have
that
volunteerism
and
maybe
we
could
I
don't
know
highway
81,
the
flowers.
Some
of
that
looks
good.
Some
of
that
doesn't
look,
the
weeds
are
taller
than
the
flowers
and
that's
it's
an
embarrassment.
E
A
Still
do
that
still
available
for
them
to
help
with
and
so
I'm
going
to
move
on,
there's
another
announcement
I
would
like
to
make
item
number
six.
Is
the
announcement
of
the
receipt
of
the
distinguished
budget
presentation
award
to
the
city
of
Watertown
finance
department
and
it
took
several
meetings
of
agendas
going
by
without
this
being
on
there,
because
we
have
a
very
modest
Finance,
Officer
Kristen,
Bob
Dean,
who
actually
puts
the
agenda
together
as
well
as
the
budget
presentation,
and
she
does
a
fantastic
job.
A
A
A
A
A
G
A
J
L
D
A
All
right,
okay,
you
stay
there.
I
don't
want
to
compound
okay.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
number
eight
application
for
special
retail
malt
beverage
and
wine
license
to
Watertown
Area
Chamber
of
Commerce
from
two
o'clock
p.m.
on
Thursday
July,
19
2018,
until
12
o'clock
p.m.
on
Sunday
July
22nd
2018
at
Stokes
Thomas,
City
Park,
and
this
is
of
course,
for
cooking
on
campus
cadiz
and
I'm,
going
to
look
for
a
motion
first
and
then
I'll
open
the
public
hearing.
A
So
is
there
a
motion
for
approval
what
by
Councilwoman
manty
and
second
by
councilman
ville
Hauer,
and
I
would
now
like
to
open
the
public
hearing
and
see
if
anyone
is
here
just
on
this
topic?
If
so,
please
come
forward
state
your
name
in
the
microphone
see,
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
I'm
Kristin.
Do
you
want
to
say
anything
about
this.
B
This
is
just
pretty
straight
straightforward
same
as
we've
done
in
the
previous
years.
This
will
be,
of
course,
for
cooking
on
campus
go
so
they
extended
the
time
just
a
little
bit
and
I
think
that
was
they
wanted
to
allow
for,
if
they're
doing
any
type
of
cleanup
and
whatever.
So
it's
understood
that
the.
A
D
Got
a
question
this
has
Stokes
Thomas
City
Park
is
it?
Does
this
mean
the
entire
park?
I
mean
I.
I
know
that
that
they've
reserved
the
entire
Park
for
cooking
on
cap
ESCO
this
year,
I
mean
I,
know.
I
know
there
were
some
discussion
last
year,
where's
the
beer
garden
and
then
there's
also
the
the
wine
or
you
can
taste
that
the
barbecue
and
you
can
get
a
beverage
there.
I
mean.
Does
this
encompass
all
those
areas.
B
B
A
But
yeah
probably
the
same
areas
that
it
has
been
in
the
past,
any
other
questions
or
comments.
All
right,
I'll
look
for
action,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying
aye
motion
carries
item
number.
Nine
is
consideration
of
a
lease
agreement
with
Chris
Hampton,
hey
lot
1
and
a
portion
of
lot
9
of
the
Hampton
industrial
park
addition.
So
look
for
a
motion.
Second,
for
approval,
move
by
Councilman
malam.
M
G
Man
thanks:
this
is
a
continuation
of
an
agreement
that
it's
been
going
on
for
the
last
two
years
for
Chris
Han,
Hey
chunks
of
land
south
here
B,
south
west
of
glacial
lakes,
energy
area
Lots.
The
only
difference
this
year
is
that
this
this
lease
will
continue
until
until
we
terminate
the
last
two
leases
we
had.
But
that's
why
we're
doing
this
again
this
year
is
because
it
ended
after
a
year.
So
this
is
an
automatic
renewal
until
termination,
and
he
also
does
have
to
he'll
have
to
vacate
the
premises
if
it's
sold.
A
Was
this
one
that
had
the
limitation
on
people
using?
Oh
there?
It
is
item
5e
includes
lessee,
agrees
to
allow
the
general
public
to
access
the
leased
premises
for
the
purpose
of
training
dogs
when
the
lessee
is
not
harvesting
that
was
in
there
before
and
I
know
that
has
been
utilized.
So
that's
in
there
still
in
case
anybody's
wondering
that's
still
in
the
lease
all
right,
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
and
ask
if
anyone
is
here
to
speak
on
this
topic
that
they'd
approach
the
microphone
see,
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing.
C
G
It's
an
annual
lease
but
I
built
in
the
automatic
renewal,
so
we
don't
have
to
do.
This
doesn't
have
to
come
in
front
of
Council
every
year
since
it
essentially
been
a
renewal,
but
no
there
is
no.
It
basically
would
cease
when
somebody
purchases
the
property
or
we
decide
that
we
no
longer
want
to
allow
him
to
Havel
and
right.
C
But
my
point
is
out
of
sight
out
of
mind:
how
are
we
what's
our
mechanism
for
knowing
that
this
is
even
occurring?
I
mean
we're.
Gonna
have
a
different
body
of
people
in
the
future.
Different
staff
different
mayor,
different
council,
who's,
gonna.
Remember
that
we
have
these
tracts
of
land
that
are
being
paid
and
there's
no
trigger
system
that
there's
no
no
termination
date.
How.
C
J
G
Essentially,
you
know,
with
this
type
of
a
situation
he's
not
paying
us
money,
he's
giving
us
a
third
of
the
hay
that
goes
to
bramble
Park
Zoo
I
wrote,
I,
wrote
this
I
modified.
It
I
guess
with
the
thought
that
until
somebody
has
another
use
for
that
property,
do
we
have
any
reason
to
tell
him
to
stop
paying,
and
that
was
my
thought.
If
you
disagree,
I
can
certainly
redraft
it.
A
N
Agree
with
Mike
I
think
it
for
future
councils
for
folks
down
the
road
I
think
that
they
need
to
be
exposed
to
this
somehow
and
I.
Think
that
would
make
it
a
good
item
if
we
did
it
on
the
consent
agenda
that
way
we
all
have
access
to.
We
all
see
it
if
you're,
looking
through
your
your
agenda
items
before
the
meeting
you
it
wouldn't
know,
and
you
could
look
at
the
supporting
documentation
so
are.
N
D
F
D
Many
we
got
station
with
you
know
with
within
different
meeting
that
there's
too
many
little
things
like
this,
that
slipped
through
the
cracks
I
mean.
This
is
not
a
big
deal,
though
it's
okay
and
it's
something
that
we
should
have
some
way
of
monitoring
on
an
ongoing
basis,
so
that
we
know
it's
in
existence.
The.
I
All
good
points:
I'm,
okay,
with
your
Auto
renewal.
Just
so
because
what
happens?
If
it's
not
an
auto
renewal,
then
there's
no
lease
in
place.
Then
both
parties
are
exposed,
but
the
points
well-taken
we
do
need
a
tickler
that
says:
hey
and
auto
renewals
coming
up.
If
you
want
to
take
action
to
terminate
lessor,
has
the
right
to
do
that.
The
other
point
I
was
going
to
make,
is
I,
don't
see
an
option
for
the
lessee
to
terminate
in
year,
and
that's
fine
with
me,
but
I
didn't
see
that
option.
F
E
I
think
we
have
an
agreement
with
whoever
takes
care
of
the
airport
and
I
think.
Maybe
there's
some
monies
exchanged
there,
but
is
that
an
auto
renewal?
Or
is
that
a
yearly-
and
you
might
not
know
because
you
probably
weren't
here
at
that
time,
but
we
do
have
where
they
hay
the
airport?
But
there
is
monies
exchanged
there.
You.
E
A
It's
been
I,
don't
know
how
the
finance
department
keeps
track
of
this
kind
of
stuff.
I
know
the
engineering
department
and
the
building
services
departments
struggle
with
these
type
of
items
where
we
don't.
We
don't
have
anything
to
remind
us
that
action
needs
to
be
taken.
We've
been
struggling
with
that.
So
it's
it's
a
good
point.
I,
don't
know
how
we
remembered
to
put
these
on
the
agenda
Kristen.
Is
that
something
a
finance
department
does.
B
Yeah,
it's
a
little
bit
of
multiple
things.
We
do
have
a
spreadsheet
and
we
continue
to
build
on
it
that
keeps
track
of
all
of
our
stuff
that
comes
due
and
what
is
do
during
certain
months
when
there's
dollars
that
need
to
be
collected.
The
other
thing
that,
when
I'm
putting
together
agendas
I
do
go
back
through
all
of
our
previous
agendas,
because
there
are
things
that
kind
of
happen
every
year
and
that's
kind
of
a
trigger
to
to
to
make
sure
some
of
these
are
taken
care
of
so
yeah.
G
I
mean
we
could
change
it
to
a
set
term,
but
then
that's
still
that
the
larger
question
is:
how
do
we
keep
track
of
this
stuff,
whether
it's
auto
renewals
that
term
it's
still?
This
was
a
one-year
term
which
it
was
I
still
didn't
know
about
it
and
till
Chris
called
me.
So
the
question
of
whether
we
know
it's
going
to
renew
or
not
is
a
larger
question,
but
this
can
be
changed
to
a
set
two
or
three
or
four-year
term.
G
I
just
suggest
that
we
do
it
more
than
one
year
of
time,
because
this
is
just
kind
of
an
ongoing
thing.
But
that
being
said,
if
we
do
change
this,
there
will
need
to
be
another
resolution
of
intent
to
enter
into
a
lease
and
then
it'll
be
another
month
out
before
we
can
authorize
this
lease.
So
just
think.
Keep
that
in
mind.
Okay,.
J
With
without
the
approval
tonight,
if
we
add,
for
example,
a
five-year
term
she's
at
an
example
without
the
approval
tonight,
he
can
no
longer
hey
for
the
time
being
until
we
cut
bring
this
back
or
is
it
okay
for
him
to
keep
paying?
Unless
we
I
mean,
can
you
back
data
lease
I,
I'm,
just
I,
guess
I
want
him
to
be
able
to
keep
doing
what
he's
doing,
because
the
zuni's,
the
hay
and
the
place
needs
to
be
hated.
A
I
To
reiterate
my
in
this
case
the
auto
renewals:
okay,
we're
not
talking
about
$100,000
a
month-
unreleased
like
this,
because
if
you
don't
have
the
Auto
renewal
and
it
does
get
forgotten,
then
there's
no
lease
in
place
and
the
guys
on
our
land
with
no
contract
in
place.
And
that
may
not
be
good.
We,
we
just
got
to
be
somehow
put
a
reminder
in
the
calendar
and
put
it
on
perpetual
reminder
that
we
have
to
do
this
and
I
think
that's
why
we
should
go
yeah.
A
A
A
Q
You
mayor,
so
this
is
the
new
zoning
district
that
we've
been
working
on
through
the
mayor's
affordable
housing
committee,
as
well
as
the
plan
commission
and
we've
come
up
and
presenting
to
you
the
r1c.
Previously
we
referred
to
it
as
our
1a,
so
it'll
be
our
1c
compact,
single-family
residential
district
and
then
some
of
the
points
that
this
district
will
allow
is.
Q
It
can
be
5,000
square
feet
as
the
minimum
lot
width,
50
foot,
minimum
lot,
width
for
frontage,
six
foot,
minimum
side
yards
on
one
side
and
nine
foot
on
the
other
55%
minimum
lot
coverage
to
leave
the
Audrina
there
will
be
shared.
Walls
will
be
allowed
between
lot
lines
as
well
or
as
long
as
each
home
has
sufficient
50
feet
of
lot
frontage
and
then
a
twelve
foot.
A
Q
C
Q
R
Q
Will
be
kind
of
up
to
the
community
and
just
developers
in
general
what
they
plan
on
doing?
We
do
have
that
it
can't
be
necessarily
a
spot
zone
because
you
have
to
have
a
minimum
of
a
half
a
block,
and
that's
that's
included
kind
of
a
depiction
of
what
that
area
would
look
like.
Is
that
the
minimum
area
requirements
to
rezone
to
our
1c
compact,
single-family
residential,
is
one
half
of
block.
Okay,.
R
A
It
has
to
be
half
a
block:
okay
and
by
half
a
block
it
doesn't.
It
means
all
the
way
from
one
Street
to
the
next
and
if
there's
an
alley
up
to
that
point
or
otherwise
to
the
back
of
the
Lots
okay-
and
there
is
a
drawing
that
will
be
part
of
the
code
right,
Randy
yep
question:
oh
yeah,
right
right
there,
that's
what
a
half
a
block
looks
like
calls:
men
Danforth,
not.
C
Having
been
part
of
the
discussion,
but
how
well
you
know,
we
got
our
normal
transitional
areas
that
we
have
as
we
as
we
move
from
commercial
to
residential,
typical
eights
r1
into
r2,
and
how
will
this
work
in
that
transitional
guideline?
Call
it
we
I
know
it's
not
a
strict
adherence,
but
it
that
we
have
a
guideline
that
we
typically
use
for
organized
development.
How
will
this
fit
into
that
I?
Would.
Q
A
Could
be
adjacent
to
higher
density
residential,
but
it
probably
shouldn't
be
adjacent
to
other
higher
zones.
It's
an
r1
zone
so
be
treated
like
any
other
r1
single-family
residential
zone.
We
generally
don't
put
those
next
two
industrial
zones
or
commercial
zones
without
a
buffer,
so
it's
low-density,
it's
just
smaller
Lots
and
the
Lots
are
limited.
The
building's
sizes
are
limited
on
these
Lots,
where
they
aren't
on
other
r1
Lots.
So
that's
that's
the
main
difference,
councilman
Bueller
question.
N
Q
A
Already
have
lots
this
size
in
our
community,
but
you
can't
create
new
ones
until
this
is
passed
and
right
now,
the
minimum
lot
size
is
nine
thousand
square
feet.
Many
communities,
that's
twice
as
big
as
their
minimum
lot
size,
which
makes
it
expensive
to
you
say,
have
the
same
length
of
road
and
you
can
put
far
fewer
Lots
adjacent
to
it
because
of
our
large
lot
requirement.
Our
minimum
lot
requirement
right
now
is
75
feet
of
width
and
9,000
square
feet.
A
So
this
is
not
75
but
50
feet
of
frontage
and
not
9,000,
but
5,000
square
feet
again.
We
have
a
lot
of
lots
like
this,
but
they're
not
allowed
to
be
created
anymore.
That's
something
we've
done
in
the
past
and
this
changes
that
allows
people
to
put
more
Lots,
but
anytime,
you
zone
any
property,
whether
you're,
rezoning
or
attaching
a
brand-new
zone
on
land.
That's
just
been
annexed,
there's
always
a
public
hearing
and
the
council
that
goes
through
both
of
the
plan
Commission
and
the
City
Council
for
public
hearings
at
both
bodies.
A
D
A
Well,
this
is
something
I
talked
about
when
I
ran
for
mayor,
having
worked
in
other
communities
and
lived
in
other
communities,
I've
seen
much
smaller
lot
sizes
available
as
a
planning
tool
elsewhere,
but
not
in
Watertown.
Our
minimums
were
great
in
relation
to
other
communities
which
makes
it
expensive,
so
this
was
meant
to
be
affordable
housing.
It's
a
tool
that
you
don't
have
to
use.
You
don't
have
to
Platt
a
small
lot
like
this.
You
can
plat
much
greater
size
Lots
if
that's
what
you're
wanting
to
go
for
in
your
neighborhood
that
you're
designing.
A
But
this
is
a
tool
we
didn't
have
before
that.
Now
we
will
have
if
this
is
passed,
so
it
greatly
reduces
the
per
lot
cost
of
development
for
the
infrastructure.
That's
required.
When
you
cut
the
frontage
requirement
along
a
road
from
75
feet
to
50
feet,
you
are
allowing
half
again
as
many
Lots
to
share
the
cost
of
that
infrastructure,
so
it
makes
it
less
expensive
to
develop.
A
A
Our
first
zoning
code
did
away
with
this,
and
so
all
of
those
we
have
25
foot
Lots
in
our
community
and
50
and
35
and
40
they're
they're,
all
legal
if
they
were
platted
and
recorded
and
they
were,
but
we
just
don't
allow
new
Lots
to
be
created
in
that
size
anymore.
So
this
is
opening
it
up,
it's
just
a
tool,
and
but
it
is
another
tool
that
developers
have
to
reduce
the
cost
of
development.
So
the
affordable
housing
committee
was
very
strongly
in
favor
of
this
and
I
think.
The
plank
mission
was
to.
A
A
Q
A
Go
back
to
item
number
13;
second,
reading
of
ordinance
number
18,
13
amending
chapter
21,
point
3
to
point:
zero:
three
and
chapter
twenty
one:
point:
90
allowing
by
conditional
use
and
defining
commercial
recreational
uses
within
the
i1
light
industrial
district.
So
this
has
been
through
the
plan
Commission
and
had
its
first
reading
last
time.
I'll
look
for
a
motion
for
approval
and
then
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
moved
by
Councilman
bill
Harr
second,
by
a
Councilwoman
manty,
okay,
Brandi.
Q
Within
the
light
industrial
district
and
then
per
your
request,
then
that
we
would
add
that
as
a
conditional
youth
so
that
that
request
would
still
go
in
front
of
the
Board
of
Adjustment
and
it
would
be
a
state
left
in
there
as
a
tool
if
a
manufacturer
company
or
any
business
would
like
to
utilize.
That.
A
C
Q
Would
go
forward
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment
and
that
one
it
would
most
likely
be
at
the
time
if
they
were
coming
in
for
a
building
permit
permit
or
just
that
they
knew
that
they
had
to
be
registered.
Otherwise
they
get
caught
and
have
to
come
in
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
so
that
they're,
conforming
and
legal,
because.
C
Q
D
Brandy,
I,
don't
see
chip
album
the
odds
you
want
to
comment
about.
You
know
chip
has
weighed
in
as
a
fire
marshal
on
this
human.
You
know
kind
of
summarize
what
his
thoughts
are,
because
this
was
an
issue
a
couple
years
ago
that
that
he
balked
at
because
we're
trying
to
expand
it
to
the
i2
as
well.
Just
gonna
comment
about
his
thoughts
on
the
on
this
change.
No
yep.
Q
So
chip
was
okay,
with
this
being
added
as
a
conditional
use.
Just
so
then
they're
being
reviewed,
and
the
reason
why,
a
couple
years
back
when
it
was
being
proposed
as
being
allowed
as
the
condition
the
eye
one
and
the
eye
is,
he
was
concerned
about
the
materials
and
that
are
allowed
in
the
i2
zone.
The
toxic
or
flammable
things
of
that
nature.
I
For
full
disclosure,
when
that
popped
up
a
couple
of
years
ago,
I
was
actually
a
landlord
for
one
of
the
companies
in
one
of
these
businesses.
So
I
pulled
myself.
In
that
conversation
we
have
since
sold
that
building
so
now,
I
can
say
something
how
many
businesses
are
gonna
get
affected
by
this
currently
they're
going
to
probably
have
to
move
I.
Q
Believe
just
one,
and
that
is
because
it
has
young
children
under
the
age
of
14,
which
we
didn't
find
appropriate
and
I
believe
that
the
land
are
the
business
owner
is
okay
with
that,
and
but
that
we
allow
that
this
be
an
option
for
people
to
utilize
that
have
patrons
that
are
over
the
age
of
14.
Just
so
that
they
can
get
out
in
need
of
safety.
To.
A
A
There
is
a
reliance
upon
the
people
to
understand
that
they
have
it's
their
responsibility
to
understand
what
our
regulations
are,
not
knowing
what
the
regulations
are
and
a
valid
reason
to
get
out
of
having
to
comply
with
them.
Just
like.
If
you
didn't
know
what
the
speed
limit
was.
You're
still
gonna
get
a
ticket
for
violating
it
a.
A
Watertown
is
unique
in
that
we
don't
require
conditional
uses
permits
to
be
issued
when
at
least
we
don't
give
occupancy
permits
for
new
businesses
when
they
license
into
a
new
address.
Many
communities
do
that,
and
we've
talked
about
doing
that.
It
would
require
a
much
greater
effort
on
the
staffs
part
to
come
up
to
that
level
of
enforcement
some
day
we
probably
will
have
to
do
that.
A
A
B
You
mayor,
this
truly
is
for
information
purposes.
Only
we
kind
of
I
bring
it
for
it
every
year
when
it's
kind
of
dude.
Just
just
so,
you
know,
there's
certain
things
that
were
kind
of
required
to
do,
which
is
to
identify
our
newspaper
and
the
bid
openings
and
stuff
like
this
and
in
2013.
The
resolution
was
established
and
this
resolution
isn't
is
enforced
until
it's
amended.
B
So
until
it's
changed,
but
I
just
felt
like
it's
good
to
just
let
you
know
what
it
says:
that's
basically
what
it
does
it
states
that
the
public
opinion
is
the
city
newspaper
who
can
open
the
bids?
The
finance
officer.
Does
the
public
hearings
the
notices
for
those
certain
things
that
can
be
expended
and
then,
as
far
as
acknowledging
raffles,
so
it's
kind
of
it
if
there's
any
questions,
otherwise,
no
action.
That's
all.
F
B
Matt
might
have
to
help
do
with
that,
but
there
is
it's
a
state
law
that
if
you
are
going
to
conduct
a
raffle
in
the
city
of
Watertown,
you
need
to
basically
go
online
on
the
finance
department.
There
is
a
place
for
you
to
let
it
be
known
that
you're
conducting
a
raffle,
and
then
it
is
the
finance
officers
duty
to
basically
acknowledged
that
the
raffle
is
taking
place.
So
in
30
days
prior
to
selling
tickets.
F
A
Thank
you.
This
is
very
helpful.
I
appreciate
that
you
brought
that
forward,
even
though
we
don't
need
action.
Item
number
15
is
consideration
of
resolution,
18
33,
expressing
intent
to
enter
into
a
two
line.
Two
year:
airline
transportation
system,
lease
agreement
with
aerodynamics
Inc,
four
city-owned
airport,
property
and
I
will
look
for
motion
and
second
for
approval
by.
I
G
We
had
a
two
year
lease
in
agreement
with
them
that
will
be
expiring
at
the
end
of
this
month,
and
so
this
is
the
first
step
noticing
our
intent
to
enter
into
a
lease
another
two
year,
lease
with
them,
which
will
be
coming
forward
at
the
next
city
council
meeting
Todd
promised
me.
He
would
be
here
at
that
meeting
to
discuss
any
of
the
particulars
with
you.
If
you
have
any
questions.
Okay,.
A
A
G
Thanks
mayor
at
the
previous
council
meeting,
we,
the
council,
authorized
transportation
network
companies
to
operate
in
this
in
the
in
the
city
of
Watertown
as
a
separate
under
a
separate
scheme
than
taxicab
companies,
and
so
that
what
this
will
do
is
set.
The
annual
fee
amount
for
transportation
network
companies
at
$500.
G
I
did
assistant
chief
to
me
and
I
didn't
have
a
conversation
with
lyft
last
week
about
this.
It
sounds
like
the
$500
fee
is
in
a
pretty
good
ballpark
to
what
other
communities
are.
Charging
Sioux
Falls
is
1,500,
of
course,
they're
five
or
six
times
larger
than
us.
So
that's
the
dollar
amount
we
kind
of
settled
on,
and
it's
up
to
you
folks
to
decide
if
that's
appropriate.
G
A
C
G
Cabs
pay
$50
a
year,
plus
each
driver
pays
or
excuse
me
$50
a
year
plus
$5
per
driver
and
then
on
top
of
that
each
driver
pays
$50.
So
right
now,
with
five
or
six
drivers,
it
comes
to
roughly
275
or
$300
total,
and
so
by
setting
at
500,
I
presume,
there's,
probably
already
more
drivers
in
Watertown.
There
are
taxicab
drivers,
so
this
can
be
changed
in
the
future.
G
I
We
set
a
fear.
We
have
fees
that
we
look
at
scale.
Just
the
questions
aren't
going
to
be
what's
the
fee,
for
why
are
we
charging
the
fee
and
you
just
to
cover
our
costs
so
that
we
do
administrative
things
it
doesn't
finance
the
office
doesn't
spend
ten
hours
and
something
we
get
a
five-dollar
fee.
If
we
have
any
thought
around
that
or
any
recommendations
on
how
much
time
it's
gonna
take
to
process
these,
so
we
indeed
just
I
mean
we're
not
looking.
This
is
a
profit
Center,
so
just
to
cover
cost
no.
G
G
E
G
A
Other
questions
or
comments
see
none
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Matt
item
number
17
is
authorize
ation
for
the
mayor
to
sign
an
application
to
place
wastewater
treatment,
facility
administration,
building
on
the
state
water
plan,
and
this
was
recommended
by
the
committee
previously
and
so
I.
Look
for
a
motion
in
second
for
approval,
moved
by
a
councilman
Bueller
second,
by
Councilman
Roby
any
discussion.
A
A
With
a
really
high
contingency,
we're
looking
at
five
point:
six
million
dollars
total
project
cost,
but
that
could
change
a
lot
as
we
move
through
in
the
design
phase.
We'd
be
eliminating
this
building
that
the
pictures
are
showing
there.
It's
really
falling
down,
that's
a
maintenance
building.
They
can't
even
use
it
now,
because
it's
not
safe
we'd,
be
building
in
space
for
the
maintenance
function
into
the
administration.
A
Building
and
administration
building
would
be
replacing
a
the
two
storey
building
that
we
have
out
there
now,
which
is
a
garage
on
the
main
floor,
and
then
offices,
showers,
lockers,
bathrooms,
scada
that
sort
of
thing
that
building
on
the
second
floor.
So
it's
been
in
the
works
for
a
while
and
moving
ahead.
This
is
the
time
to
start
looking
at
the
ballpark
dollar
amounts
for
design.
A
I
A
A
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries
item
number
18
is
approval
of
insurance
policies
and
authorization
for
payment
of
premiums
for
general
liability,
auto
liability
and
physical
damage,
law
enforcement,
liability,
buildings
and
contents
equipment,
property
damage
and
equipment
breakdown,
boiler
and
machinery
coverage
information
will
be
distributed
at
meeting
so
I
guess:
Kristen
did
that
and
I'll
look
for
a
motion.
Second,
for
approval
of
these
policies
and.
F
A
B
So
the
dollar
amount.
What
I
handed
out
the
total
premium
for
the
year
would
be
five
hundred
sixty
one
thousand
two
hundred
twenty
dollars
and
eighty
five
cent
eighty-five
cents
that
includes
the
city
and
municipal
utilities.
So
the
top
portion
that
I
handed
out
when
I'm
requesting
approval
on
an
authorization
to
cut
a
special
check
because
it
is
due
by
the
first-
is
for
three
hundred
forty
six
thousand
one
hundred
ninety
five
dollars
and
twenty
five
cents
in
regards
to
an
increase.
B
Last
year's
premium
was
three
hundred
twenty
six
thousand
463,
so
not
too
much
of
an
increase,
especially
when
you
take
note
that
we
did
lose
our
last
ratio.
Credit
due
to
our
large
insurance
claim
so
kind
of
when
you
take
that
into
account,
not
not
really
much
of
an
increase.
So
I
was
pretty
happy
with
the
numbers,
as
they
came
in
all
right.
D
B
K
B
Don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
but
we
have
been
with
them
for
I.
Think
it's
like
I
think
we
remember
number
four.
So
we've
pretty
much
been
in
this
pool
this
whole
time
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
to
why
we
get
the
loss,
ratio,
credits
and
stuff
like
that.
So
I
don't
know
I
can't
answer.
Would
there
be
any
better,
but
this
is
who
we've
been
with
for
well
I
think
we
just
received
our
that
was
for
our
work
comp,
but
that
was
like
30
years
with
them.
A
Other
questions
or
comments,
I'll
look
for
action,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
item
number
19
is
the
first
reading
of
ordinance
number
18
14
amending
district
boundaries
by
rezoning,
18,
19th
Street
southeast
from
PUD
Planned,
Unit
development,
our
three
multi-family
residential
district
and
there's
no
action
Brandi's
here
to
talk
about
this
and
I.
A
This
is
both
of
these
pieces
are
part
of
that
same
out
lot,
and
this
is
technically
subdivision
of
land.
When
you
take
a
parent
parcel
and
break
pieces
off
of
it
they're
just
not
doing
it
all.
At
the
same
time,
they've
been
doing
it
here
and
there
a
little
bit
at
a
time,
one
lot
at
a
time
and
I'm
concerned
about
land,
locking
the
piece
to
the
east,
you
that
there
should
be
some
sort
of
easement
anywhere
in
there
to
allow
access
to
that
other
parcel.
At
the
very
least.
A
Q
You
mayor,
so
this
is
currently
this
property.
That's
I've
highlighted
up
here
is
zoned
PUD,
which
is
Planned
Unit
development,
and
when
this
was
brought
to
plan
Commission
on
June
21st,
they
asked
that
they
rezone
it
into
our
three
beans
that
it
is
they're
going
to
be
utilizing
it
as
multi-family
residential.
Q
So,
instead
of
doing
the
PUD,
where
you
have
to
have
all
your,
it
has
to
be
very
specific
and
you
have
to
have
anything,
any
change
that
is
to
occur
has
to
go
to
Planning
Commission
and
have
a
public
hearing,
and
they
have
to
have
all
their
plans
together
and
approved
by
Planning
Commission.
So
with
that,
then
they
recommended
that
they
go
through
the
rezone
and
do
it
as
multi-family
residential
are
three
like
the
adjacent
properties
to
the
north,
so
they're
planning
on
doing
apartment
buildings.
Q
N
Q
And
chip
again,
the
fire
marshal
has
weighed
in
on
this
and
the
building
official
Ken
has
looked
it
as
well
and
they
with
chip
and
fire
safety.
He
does
feel
like
the
one
way
in
one
way
out
is
sufficient
because
the
buildings
will
be
required
to
be
sprinkled,
but
we
have
not
this
plan
that
they're
proposing
does
not
show
for
another
way
out.
If
or
you
think,
maybe
it
a
second,
but
it
makes
it
difficult
because
that's
a
different
landowner,
they.
F
A
The
one
to
the
north
and
and
part
of
it
was,
if
there's
not
enough
room
for
a
turnaround
on
the
back.
How
do
they
get
out
and
if
there's
an
emergency
I
I
could
I
think
that
this
was
a
subdivision
in
the
past.
What
the
developer
is
thinking
of
doing
here
is
not
a
subdivision.
It's
just
going
to
be
one
lot,
and
as
long
as
the
development
would
comply,
there's
it's
not
a
new
road.
A
Putting
in
a
long
dead
end,
public
road
went
against
our
ordinance
in
the
past
when
this
came
in,
they
were
exceeding
the
maximum
length
of
dead-end
road,
and
that
was
part
of
the
reason
that
the
secondary
accent
access
was
required
and
as
far
as
I
know,
there
is
no
public
road
being
suggested
here
or
even
considered.
This
is
just
gonna,
be
one
lot
one
developer,
one
building,
or
maybe
multiple
buildings,
but
one
owner,
but.
C
A
Q
A
Right
now,
okay,
so
the
the
fire
marshal
would
have
to
review
for
all
of
the
pertinent
things
that
he
looks
at
making
sure
a
fire
truck
can
turn
around
and
get
to
all
parts
of
the
building
as
necessary.
They
have
options
in
the
building
process
of
putting
in
sprinklers,
as
opposed
to
doing
other
things.
If
they
don't
want
to
do
sprinklers,
then
there
has
to
be
greater
access.
A
O
A
Item
number
20
is
consideration
of
change
order
number
two
to
the
contract
with
donek
ink
for
the
sanitary
sewer
replacements
project
number
1808
for
an
increase
of
four
thousand
one
hundred
twenty-five
dollars,
and
this
was
recommended
by
the
committee
prior
look
for
a
motion
and
second
for
approval,
moved
by
a
Councilwoman
ante
and
second
by
Councilman,
Bueller
and
Colin
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
this.
Yes,.
S
A
So,
just
one
of
those
things
you
don't
know
about
until
you
actually
get
there
and
I
got
to
do
the
work.
Well,
it's
exposed.
So
any
questions
or
comments
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay,
motion
carries
okay
item
number
21
is
old,
business
and
item
number.
A
is
speed
limits
around
late
camp
ESCA
brandy.
A
Can
you
bring
that
map
up
I
wanted
to
give
an
update
on
the
speed
limits
at
the
lake
I've
received
a
lot
of
input
on
possibly
making
changes,
and
the
public
has
a
lot
of
concern
about
this.
I've
probably
had
fairly
equal
people,
not
wanting
the
speed
limit
reduced
as
people
wanting
the
speed
limit
reduced
and
quite
a
few
emotional
arguments
for
reducing
the
speed
limit,
and-
and
this
is
not
a
new
thing-
the
emotional
argument
is:
is
it
going
to
take
a
child
dying
before
the
city?
Does
the
right
thing?
A
We
hear
that
quite
often
and
I
it's
not
meant
to
harass
the
city,
it's
it's!
It
is
heartfelt
when
someone
says
that
and
of
course
we
don't
want
to
get
to
that
point.
But
adjusting
speed
limits
is
a
very
serious
matter.
I
believe
it's
best
to
take
an
analytical
approach
before
making
a
decision
to
make
sure
you're
looking
at
all
of
the
input
and
and
not
just
the
emotional
part
of
it.
A
Setting
a
speed
limit
inappropriately
low
will
be
challenging
to
enforce,
because
most
people
will
ignore
it
if
they
think
it's
unreasonably
low
and
then
it's
it's
hard
for
the
police
department
to
enforce.
If
it's
too
high,
then
you
can't
enforce
when
you
have
a
need
so
either
one
of
those
directions
is
bad.
A
What
we
don't
want
to
do
is
set
speed
limits
arbitrarily
based
on
emotion
and
then
have
it
be
too
low,
and
so
many
people
are
violating
it
that
they
come
to
ignore
the
speed
limit.
We
call
that
contempt
for
the
regulation
and
it
spreads
all
throughout
our
community
traffic
engineers
are
very
mindful
of
this
human
fact.
A
We
will
go
the
speed
that
we
think
is
safe
when
there
are
obstructions
and
the
road
is
narrow.
We
will
naturally,
most
of
us
slow
down
and
I
learned
in
civil
engineering
school,
that
if
an
item
is
within
4
feet
of
a
roadway,
people
think
they're
going
to
hit
it,
and
so
they
automatically
slow
down
you're
not
going
to
hit
something.
A
That's
4
feet
off
of
the
pavement
unless
you
slide
off
the
road
for
some
reason,
but
you
have
that
perception,
and
so
you
slow
down
that's
traffic
calming
and
we
use
what
we
call
the
85th
percentile
rating
on
a
roadway
to
set
a
speed
limit
and
there's
been
tons
and
tons
and
tons
of
research
on
this.
The
85th
percentile
speed
is
that
speed
at
which
85
percent
of
the
public
travels
at
or
below,
on
any
given
roadway
in
free-flowing
conditions.
A
So
you,
as
a
general
rule,
should
not
set
a
speed
limit
more
than
five
miles
per
hour
above
or
below
the
85th
percentile.
So
the
police
department
took
the
85th
percentile
in
four
different
locations
along
the
west
side
of
the
lake,
where
the
speed
limit
is
40
and
they
got
a
speed
limit
of
40
to
40
to
40
and
37.
A
Those
are
all
within
five
miles
per
hour
of
the
set
speed
limit
of
40
miles
per
hour,
and
what
that
means
is
that
the
speed
limit
is
appropriately
set
for
the
roadway
conditions
to
have
a
speed
limit,
which
is
higher
than
40
or
lower
than
40
will
cause
contempt
for
speed
limits,
because
people
won't
feel
it's
appropriate
and
they'll
speed.
And
so
another
thing
we
look
at
is
accidents
and
we
do
not
have
a
high
rate
of
accidents
in
that
stretch
of
roadway.
A
We
also
look
at
the
incidence
of
violations
and
we
see
a
disproportionately
low
number
of
violations
all
around
the
lake
relating
to
the
population.
That's
there
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
city,
it's
in
the
2%,
as
opposed
to
the
4%.
So
by
all
the
technical
measures
that
engineers
would
use
to
set
a
speed
limit,
we
have
appropriate
speed
limits
at
the
lake
and
I
I,
don't
at
all
mean
to
belittle
the
argument
that
people
think
it's
too
fast
and
that
we're
just
asking
for
an
accident.
A
We
are
going
to
have
accidents
on
that
road,
just
as
we
have
accidents
elsewhere
on
the
road
and
it
it
isn't.
The
only
collector
out
where
we
allow
driveways,
we
don't
allow
new
driveways
on
other
collectors,
and-
and
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
makes
this
a
concern
for
our
community-
is
that
it's
an
old
old
road
that
was
built
where
it
was
built
a
long
time
ago
and
there's
really
no
other
alternatives.
So
there
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
on
it,
but
it
isn't
exceedingly
high.
A
We
have
those
numbers
and
the
perception,
I
think
is
worse
than
the
reality
in
this
case.
So
I
am
not
inclined
to
make
a
change.
I
I
am
still
open,
I'm,
always
open
to
input
from
other
people,
but
in
consultation
with
the
police
chief
and
the
police
department
and
the
street
superintendent
and
the
acting
City
Engineer.
We've
we've
talked
about
this
at
length
and
we
feel
that
the
speed
limits
are
appropriately
set.
But
that
being
said,
I
know
that
the
council
had
expressed
different
opinions
to
me.
C
I
know
Merritt,
since
your
email
this
morning
with
I,
took
the
time
to
drive
around
the
lake
here
a
couple
different
times
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
and
and
you
know
I
know,
we've
got
all
kinds
of
different
changing
speed
limits,
depending
on
where
you're
at,
but
to
me
the
one
area
that
seems
to
be
the
most
concern
for
me
in
driving
around
the
lake
is
on.
That
would
be
the
north
northwest
side
of
the
lake
at
40
miles
an
hour
that
that
just
seems
when
you're
driving
and
it
seems
too
fast
and.
A
We
could
set
that
at
35,
but
look
at
all
the
different
speed
limits
that
we
have
around
there.
It
is
not
unreasonable
for
that
with
a
an
85th
percentile
rating
of
37,
it's
not
unreasonable
that
the
speed
limit
be
set
at
40.
Most
people
are.
The
vast
majority
of
people
are
going
slower
than
that
which
is
legal.
It's
just
not
legal.
To
go
faster
and
most
people
are
honoring
that.
A
So,
if
we
were
to
lower
that
to
35,
it
would
be
just
fine.
It
would
still
be
within
five
miles
per
hour
of
the
85th
percentile
there.
But
then
you've
got
another
speed
limit
and
I
I
hate
to
say
this.
But
the
vast
majority
of
people
do
not
go
the
speed
that
is
posted
on
the
sign.
They
drive
the
speed,
which
feels
right
for
the
roadway
and
that's
human
nature
and.
D
A
L
Can
try
and
give
my
best
explanation,
but
mayor
I
think
you
did
a
super
fantastic
job
of
giving
a
great
engineering
perspective
to
it,
with
all
the
the
numbers
that
were
involved,
as
well
as
paying
attention
to
external
environment
or
mother
nature,
as
well
as
taking
into
consideration
people's
driving
habits.
I
think
you
know
what
we
see
up
there.
L
The
reason
why
those
speed
limits
are
like
they
are
is
because,
over
the
course
of
many
many
many
years
of
development,
these
are
the
numbers
that
were
deemed
to
be
satisfactory
for
those
areas
you
know
based
on
number
of
houses
based
on
lay
of
land,
based
on
all
the
things
that
we
see
around
the
lake.
It's
not
just
one
flat
piece
of
land.
It's
there's
variant,
you
know
elements
to
land
out
there,
everything
from
hills
and
curves
to
straightaways,
so
I
think.
L
The
reason
why
we
have
all
these
be
limits
is
just
because
of
all
the
reasons
that
you
mentioned.
As
far
as
enforcement,
we
do
our
best
to
use
our
resources
to
the
best
of
our
to
be
as
efficient
as
possible.
In
other
words,
you
know
if
we
have
complaints
in
town,
we
have
complaints
of
Callay
qui,
have
complaints
throughout
the
city.
We
try
and
allocate
resources
to
the
best
of
our
abilities
to
make
sure
that
you
know
areas
are
high
risk,
low
frequency
or
high
frequency
low
risk.
L
D
I
had
appreciate
the
Anna,
the
analytical
approach.
I
was
taking
this
Ike
hitting
us
cold
or
hitting
me
coldest
I
can't
really
respond.
I,
I,
guess
I
had
a
different,
different
thought.
Obviously
from
comments
and
my
own
personal
observation,
but
I
like
psych
I,
can't
argue
with
your
approach.
So
I
guess
all
you
have
to
it.
You
know
digest
it
and
you
know
you
know,
go
from
there,
but
did
your
approach?
What
were
you
looking
at?
Primarily
the
40
mile
an
hour
section
I
mean?
Did
you
also
look
at
the
other
limits
around
the
lake.
A
Generally,
that's
considered
a
very
safe
speed
in
in
a
community
and
to
go
lower
than
that
could
be
counterproductive
because
we
are
finding
conformance
with
85th
percentile
on
that
side
of
the
lake
as
well,
and
to
post
it
lower
than
25,
which
I
really
didn't
hear
even
from
the
people
who
were
really
seriously
talking
about
this,
they
weren't
really
recommending
lower
speeds.
They
were
talking
about
greater
enforcement
and
putting
obstructions
in
the
roadway
that
sort
of
thing
to
control
the
speed
and
I
think
it's
appropriately
set.
I
guess:
that's!
A
S
Have
a
couple
of
conversations
with
the
DoD
about
this
because
they
heard
we
were
talking
about
it
and
multiple
engineers.
There
also
agree
that
that
should
have
never
changed
and
they
obviously
had
it
before
the
city,
and
they
did
multiple
studies
at
that
time
to
determine
what
was
appropriate
and
they
didn't.
They
didn't
see
a
significant
change
from
when
they
had
it
to
us
and
40
was
always
the
appropriate
speed
limit
for
them
as
well.
L
A
A
Putting
asking
for
an
upgraded
look
to
the
lighting
along
the
212
highway
project
that
will
be
done
in
the
next
few
years.
The
design
has
a
not
yet
been
selected,
so
there
isn't
anything
yet
to
say
not
to
do
I
mean
we
do
still
have
some
flexibility.
It's
in
that
we
haven't
chosen
any
design
so
Diane.
If
you
want
to
or
Rob
you're
going
to
say
your
name
sure.
T
Rob
Peterson
Diane
styles
were
the
leaders
of
the
h2o
project.
Here
over
the
years,
we've
done
a
lot
of
beautification
projects
with
the
city
driven
by
h2o2
Oh
committees.
One
of
them
revolves
around
the
beautification
of
our
entryways
and
the
212
in
particular,
and
so
there
was
a
little
bit
of
a
drive
from
some
of
those
committees
to
do
what
we
could
to
bring
ideas
forward
to
make
212
as
beautiful
as
possible,
especially
in
light
of
deities
project
to
change
the
highway
coming
through
our
city
right.
T
So
there
was
some
push
to
do
some
call
it
fancier
lighting
to
have
excuse
me
to
have
an
aesthetic
appeal
for
people
coming
into
town
I.
Think
after
the
committee
looked
at
where
those
lights
would
be,
and
it's
it's
only
approved
from
I
believe
highway,
81
to
19th
Street
in
the
second
phase,
and
not
in
the
first
phase
from
highway
20
to
highway
81.
T
They
went
back
and
regrouped
and
looked
at
it
and
said
you
know,
we've
seen
some
other
towns
that
have
taken
those
same
lights
as
the
ones
that
were
previously
designed,
I
think
they're
called
a
Cobra
headlight
or
something
like
that,
and
they
paint
them
black
and
they
dress
them
up
a
little
bit
and
it
looks
good.
It
looks
distinctive.
It
looks
you
know,
and
so
I
think
the
committee
went
back
to
excuse
me
again.
T
Mm-Hmm
went
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
said
okay,
if
we'd
look
at
this
and
do
something
different
with
the
Cobra
lights,
to
paint
them
and
make
them
look
better
and
consistent
from
beginning
the
end
of
the
project
and
then
step
back
and
collectively
take
a
comprehensive
view
of
entry
entry
points
into
the
city.
Some
things
we
can
do
a
signage,
some
things
we
can
do
with
lighting
some
things
we
can
do
in
other
areas
with
paint
I.
T
A
I
think
the
council
was
favorable
and
doing
an
upgraded
standard
that
we
haven't
selected
yet,
but
even
painting
and
a
pull
black
is
more
than
we're
doing
right
now,
which
is
nothing.
We've
got
the
bare
bottom
bones
of,
what's
possible,
it's
functional
and
that's
all
even
painting
the
poles
is
an
upgrade
from
what
we're
currently
doing
and
would
be
an
improvement.
Well.
T
I
can't
say
that
I
know
the
details
of
what
the
committee
is
working
on,
but
I
do
know
that
they
have
wanted
to
sit
back
and
take
a
more
comprehensive
view
of
that
whole
stretch.
Rather
than
focus
so
much
money
on
just
the
the
one
set
of
lamps
and
I
think
they're
talking
about
a
significant
decrease
in
the
amount
of
money
that
they
would
use
to
do
something
with
signage
and
painted.
A
Lamps,
it's
still
an
upgrade,
and
so
the
council
basically
said
to
proceed
with
an
upgraded
lighting
standard
with
what
we
do
to
be
selected
still
and
that
would
fall
within
there.
There
is
going
to
be
a
cost,
particularly
if
we
get
a
powder-coated
pole
as
opposed
to
just
a
painted
pole.
A
painted
pole
is
probably
more
expensive
in
the
long
run,
so
you
have
to
paint
it
every
year
as
opposed
to
a
powder
coated
pole,
which
is
quite
expensive
once
and
then
maintains
its
color
very
much
longer.
O
A
T
O
Don't
have
the
numbers
exactly
on
this,
but
we
were
hoping
is
that
the
City
Council
could
pull
a
committee
together
and,
if
you're
open
to
it
and
work
with
that
committee
from
h2o
20
and
come
up
with
a
comprehensive
plan.
There's
kind
of
two
advantages
to
pulling
back
in
and
trying
a
different
approach.
One's
financial
as
we've
already
spoken
about,
but
also
the
the
impact
at
landowners
has
came
up
several
times
because
because
they
their
property
and
how
much
property
and
then
the
proposal
that
we
had
proposed
last
time
took
up.
O
T
Something
more
comprehensive
in
a
plan
that
says:
okay,
rather
than
spending
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
fancy
lighting
on
one
phase
of
the
highway
project.
Maybe
we
should
dial
that
into
a
comprehensive
plan
that
looks
at
be
it
powder-coated,
poles
or
whatever.
But
if
it's
a
standard
shape
pole,
it's
not
gonna
be
anywhere
near
$600,000.
D
I
As
a
point
of
clarification,
if
you
go
with
some
of
the
antique
pulls
like
Brookings,
did
everybody
talks
about
Brooke,
as
did
their
entryway?
Those
are
only
about
30
feet
tall
compared
to
the
ones
you're
talking
about,
are
50
feet
tall,
so
the
number
of
poles
that
would
have
to
be
installed
to
get
the
same
amount
of
lighting,
even
though
they're
both
of
the
LED
is
significantly
more.
You
talk
a
lot
more
poles.
If
you
go
with
the
antique
pole,
so
yes,
your
cost
would
be
higher.
If
that's
the
route
you
go.
D
Where
we
at
because
I
know
I
was
from
the
council
level,
I
was
one
that
was
driving
this
initially
I,
but
I
appreciate
the
extra
effort.
That's
gone
into.
This
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
Where
are
we
at
in
our
conversations
now
with
the
d-o-t
as
far
as
pulling
back
from
what
we
had
approved
for
six
weeks
ago,
whenever
it
was
update
us
mayor
or
Colin,
where
we're
at,
in
our
conversation
with
the
d-o-t
to.
S
S
T
F
S
Yes,
we
did
with
that
I
know
it
would
be
easier
for
the
d-o-t
and
their
design
team
to
go
with
the
standard
poles.
They
could
not
get
me
a
cost
associated
with
powder
coating,
as
their
supplier
has
not
returned
their
phone
call
they've
called
multiple
times.
They
did
say
hand
painting
would
cost
roughly
four
to
five
hundred
dollars
per
Pole
and
that's
probably
on
the
expensive
side,
but
with
that
you'll
be
doing
that
every
year
or
two
to
maintain
that
look.
S
If
we
do
go
powder,
coating
I
was
looking
at
the
company
that
they
supplied
to
me
in
an
email,
and
there
are
three
different
options
for
the
powder
coating
and
obviously
the
higher
the
level
you
go,
the
more
expensive
and
there
are
different
warranties
associated
with
each
powder
coating
system
and
I'm.
Not
I
didn't
look
too
much
into
that.
Yet
just
that
will
be
something
that
we
have
to
decide.
If
that's
the
route,
we're
going,
I
guess.
T
A
Means
so
much
to
have
committee
members
here
to
tell
us
that,
because
the
council
wants
to
honor
the
community
and
you
represent
the
community
you've
served
on
the
committee,
there
was
an
overwhelming
desire
to
upgrade
the
look
of
highway
212
in
that
visioning
process.
That
Watertown
undertook
absolutely.
T
A
J
Has
as
I
was
doing
some
of
the
research
as
well
on
some
of
the
street
lights
and
things
and
I'm
not
by
any
means
its
knowledgeable
as
all
of
you,
some
of
you
are,
are
the
new
lights
that
are
going
in.
Are
we
looking
at
LEDs
now
versus
okay?
So
even
with
LEDs,
we
still
need
more
polls
versus
the
lower.
J
Thing:
I
guess
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
so
if
we
had
the
color
and
the
LED
we're
still,
we
don't
need
as
many
per
linear
foot
or
yard
or
whatever.
So
there's
that
opportunity.
Still
there
and
I
know
we
can
do
banners
and
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
and
I
know,
there's
also
some
other
routes
where
we
can't
I,
though
it
was
to
12
into
some
of
the
other
areas.
So
I,
like
you,
appreciate
the
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
J
T
K
Would
just
like
to
thank
you
for
coming
forward
on
this,
because
if
there's
anything
I
heard
about
it
as
number
one,
it
was
expensive,
which
was
those
expensive,
but
the
fact
that
people
believe
that
the
entire
212,
if
we
were
going
to
do
this,
should
have
been
covered,
and
we
didn't
have
that
in
the
proposal.
So
I
was
sitting
here
talking
to
people
saying
I,
wonder
what
we
can
do
to
include
the
rest
of
the
and
you
were
your
head
of
that
and
so
I
appreciate
that.
And
so,
if
it's
appropriate,
because
I
voted
for.
P
K
D
A
A
N
N
A
U
My
name
is
Connie
Swarthout,
my
husband
and
I
purchased
a
place
at
the
lake
in
2011
and
moved
here
permanently
in
2014
I
grew
up
here.
My
family
grew
up
here.
My
grandmother
and
my
great
grandfather
I
have
been
to
a
number
of
the
Planning
Commission
meetings
in
regards
to
the
sign,
ordinance
and
I.
Just
I'll
be
brief.
Here,
I
feel
I
challenged,
all
of
them
to
actually
drive
to
12
from
west
of
the
east
of
the
freeway
to
the
other
end,
and
they
a
number
of
them.
U
Did
that
and
agreed
I
feel
strongly
that
what
really
needs
to
be
done
to
make
212
look
better
is
obviously
lights.
We
need
lights,
but
as
signage
and
I
have
gone,
I
got
into
this
because
I
went
to
a
couple
of
meetings
on
the
sign
ordinance,
which
is
only
gonna,
be
good
until
two
twelve
was
done
and
then
it's
not
any
good
anymore.
I
know
they.
U
I
was
always
gonna
meet
with
Shane,
and
then
there
was
the
crossover
so
you've
never
got
a
chance
to
meet
Colin
I
know
the
d-o-t
is
paying
everybody
to
move
their
signs.
I,
don't
know
how
much
that
is,
I'm
curious,
and
maybe
you
can
tell
me
or
find
out
for
me
if
they're
given
X
amount,
can
they
use
that
to
buy
a
new
sign
and
we
get
a
little
more
consistency
in
the
size.
U
U
But
if
I
was
somebody
moving
to
South,
Dakota
and
I
drove
through
Watertown
I
wouldn't
stop
I'd,
look
excuse
me,
I'd,
look
at
2:12
and
I
would
probably
just
keep
going
and
then,
especially
if
you
look
at
west
of
highway
20
what
they've
done
to
those
buildings
out
there
you
a
more
consistent
height
on
the
signs,
but
I
do
think
it's
signage
is
really
important
in
getting
more
consistency.
I
realize
that
people
say
this
is
my
property
and
I
can
do
what
I
want.
U
That's,
why
I'm
hoping
perhaps
between
d-o-t
in
the
city
and
maybe
the
h2o
committee,
that
we
can
work
in
that
respect,
because
that
really
is
the
big
thing
to
me.
Most
of
the
new
buildings
are
almost
all
the
same.
My
only
other
complaints
are
all
within
the
same
range
of
color
gold,
brown,
tan
and
the
the
the
stone
or
or
brick
that
you're
putting
in
front
of
us
also
the
same
color
and
I.
Think
in
ten
years
everybody's
gonna
go,
my
goodness.
Every
building
on
212
and
many
on
19
are
all
the
same.
Colored.
C
S
S
They
haven't
figured
that
one
quite
out
yet
I'm
thinking
that
they
were
leaning
on
change
order
for
phase
one,
but
do
keep
in
mind
that
we
did
do
some
upgrades
to
the
new
bridge
that
will
be
on
212
for
that,
the
fencing
that
will
be
black
and
also
by
the
stormwater
pond
by
Taco
John's
that
will
that'll
be
the
same
fence.
So
it
will
be
black
I.
Think
the
I
think
I'll,
look
nice
in
the
end
on
that
side,
so
be.
D
R
R
You
know
we
got
big
ones,
small
ones,
you
can't
see
one
one
gets
bigger
than
the
other
because
they
want
to
be
able
to
see
them
if
we
are
not
going
to
be
moving
them
to
upgrade
lights
makes
no
sense
at
all,
because
if
you
can't
see
the
lights
because
we
got
40
signs
in
the
way,
why
bother
doing
them?
So
if.
R
A
R
I
I
would
I
would
say
that
we
need
to
look
at
the
sign
ordinance
along
the
highway
district
there
and
say
what
that
can
be,
so
that
we
have
some
sort
of
uniformity
and
that
we
are
constantly
trying
to
make
it
a
better
look.
I
mean
if
we
keep
what
we
have
now
and
all
we
do
is
move
them
back
10
feet.
Then
it
really
still
doesn't
affect
anything.
It's
still
not
changing
it
to
a
better
look
one.
I
I
My
hope
is
that
once
we
get
past
this
issue
is
we
can
get
those
landowners
together
and
let
let
them
have
some
input
to
it,
but
understand
that
if
we're
talking
about
a
theme
that
runs
all
the
way
down,
then
everybody's
gonna
have
to
you
know,
play
within
a
certain
boundary.
But
this
this
issue
and
I
appreciate
their
kind.
Connie
I
appreciate
her
comments,
because
I
get
that
a
lot
that
highway
defines
our
city
right.
Now
we
have
a
chance
to
change
that
all.
A
Right
anything
else,
we
do
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
rescind
the
previous
motion
and
move
forward
with
an
upgraded
look
on
the
color
of
the
tall
poles
50-foot
poles,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries,
and
did
you
want
to
make
another
motion
about
looking
at
the
billboard,
ordinance.
R
A
F
A
J
A
A
E
V
Had
a
suggestion
and
I
wonder
if
maybe
there's
a
way
with
the
3d
mapping
and
everything
now
that
you
could
get
that
stuff
on,
so
it's
a
visual,
so
everybody
can
see
what
its
gonna
look
like
and
then,
when
you're
do
the
fencing
and
things
like
that
before
all
of
the
decisions
or
final
decisions
are
made,
you
can
see
it
on
I'm
a
visual
person.
So
it's
nice
to
be
able
to
see
it.
V
A
Was
just
a
suggestion?
Yes
appreciate
that
okay
item
C
is
the
grant
on
for
mosquito
control.
Looking
for
we
applied
for
the
grant
on
April
16th,
the
Mayor
was
authorized
to
sign
an
application
for
a
grant
for
mosquito
control,
and
the
city
was
awarded
that
grant
in
the
amount
of
eight
thousand
six
hundred
fifty
five
dollars.
There's
no
match
to
it.
Looking
for
a
motion
to
authorize
the
mayor
to
sign
the
grant
agreement
and
any
other
documents
that
are
necessary
to
carry
that
through.
A
E
A
Spray
kills
live
mosquitoes
and
the
purpose
of
it
is
to
control
West
Nile.
We
don't
spray
unless
the
mosquitoes
which
typically
carry
the
West
Nile
virus
have
been
detected
in
large
enough
quantities.
So
we
aren't
spraying
for
comfort
of
our
residents,
we're
spraying
to
keep
us
from
getting
sick
from
West
Nile,
and
it's.
A
J
A
H
I'd
like
to
bring
up
that
Derby
Downs
sidewalk
issue
again
I'd
like
to
see
the
engineering
department
go
out
and
get
bids
on
that,
so
that
the
city
could
pursue
taking
care
of
that
stretch.
Sidewalk
and
having
letting
the
engineering
department
go
and
do
that
I
think
we
still
have
budget
dollars
available
in
the
sidewalk
fund.
Correct.
H
F
H
But
we're
at
least
we
got
a
sidewalk
running
down
the
center
of
public
right
away
to
a
park.
A
city
park,
city
vehicles,
drive
down
that
sidewalk
city
used
to
mow
that
property
and
maintain
it.
The
landowner
now
maintains
that
property
mows
it
and
spray.
Is
it
the
city
planted
trees
along
that
stretch
and
I,
just
it's
a
unique
situation
and
they
all
they
all
need
to
be
looked
at
individually
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we
need
a
motion
or
how
we
proceed
with
having
them
do
that
property.
C
C
Believe
me,
I'm,
always
one
very
concerned
about
precedence,
I
think,
there's
enough
cause
in
this
particular
case
that
we
should
take
a
look
at
and
if
the
numbers
that
were
shared
with
us
earlier
this
evening,
which
the
repair
of
this
sidewalk
plus
the
neighboring
driveway
I,
think
it
was
roughly
$1,200.
If
I
remember
right,
you
know
I
think
we
need
to
take
that
under
consideration
for
repair.
C
Maybe
you
were
John
I,
don't
know,
but
when,
when
the
decision,
when
that
road
ride,
where
the
right
away
that
was
put
in
there
when
it
was
decided
to
put
a
sidewalk
to
a
park
now,
if
that
were
to
come
before
me
today,
I
would
question
why
the
the
two
private
entities
would
be
required
to
put
that
in
to
me.
That
should
have
been
part
of
I
understand
that.
A
C
Understand
it
works,
I,
think
I'm,
just
telling
you
what
my
opinion
is
so
I'd
like
to
share
that.
I
honestly
think
that
that
should
be
part
of
the
cost
of
putting
the
parkin
in
the
maintenance
thereof
and
not
the
homeowners
that
are
adjacent
to
it,
because
that's
its
primary
uses
to
get
it
to
the
park
now.
I
know
that's
a
separate
issue,
but
it
going
forward.
It's
something
like
that
and
I
know
it's
an
oddity.
C
If
something
like
that
were
were
to
come,
a
fourth
I
I'm,
not
sure
I
could
support
that
I,
don't
think
I
could
I,
don't
really
don't
care.
What's
on
the
building,
permit
I
know
they
agreed
to
it.
I
also
know
how
that
works.
Sometimes
when
we
say
look
you
each
one
and
put
one
in
or
you
put
or
do
you
want
to
put
one
in
and
share
the
cost,
so
they
feel
kind
of
trapped
into
doing
something,
and
but
certainly
what
I
heard
tonight
and
I
I
disagree
with
that
type
of
type
of
action.
I.
A
Really
do
okay.
We
we
order
sidewalks.
In
all
the
time
people
put
sidewalks
in
rarely
they're,
not
for
the
person.
They're
they're
for
the
public
and
corner
Lots
particularly
have
a
heavy
burden
because
they
have
sidewalks
on
two
sides
tonight.
If
you
take
some
action,
I
hope
it
will
be
not
sure.
I
clearly
understand
what
you're
asking
to
ask
the
staff
to
gather
information
so
and
then
put
it
together
for
you
to
review
and
then
take
some
action
on
whether
to
move
forward
or
not
Colin
mayor.
S
A
I
just
think
it's
a
little
bit
careless
to
say
we're
gonna
do
this
because
it's
in
the
public
right-of-way
and
because
this
guy
didn't
want
it,
we
made
him
do
it
because
we
require
by
ordinance
sidewalks
in
every
public
right-of-way
on
both
sides
of
every
street,
and
normally
people
do
not
want
to
do
it
and
we
make
them
do
it
every
day.
And
so
how
is
this
different
from
any
other
request?
Or
are
we
from
now
on
making
sidewalks
optional
and
then,
if
we
make
them,
do
it
we'll
pay
for
the
maintenance
of
it.
H
A
Now
say
there
are
lots
of
parks
in
town
where
developers
paid
for
the
sidewalk,
and
then
there
are
some
where
they
didn't
and
it's
a
big
burden
to
the
city
to
take
it
on.
When
you
develop
property,
you're
required
by
ordinance
to
pay
for
all
the
required
improvements
necessary
for
that
to
be
approved
and
sidewalks
on
both
sides
of
every
street.
That's
the
developers
by
ordinance,
that's
the
developers,
responsibility
as
part
of
the
street.
We
defer
it
by
action.
Council
takes
action
to
defer
it
to
the
future
property
owner.
A
When
a
house
is
built,
unless
there
won't
be
a
house
in
that
case,
developers
are
required
to
do
it.
So
I
I,
just
I,
think
you
should
let
the
staff
do
some
research
and
tell
you
how
we've
done
it
in
the
past
and
we
can
give
you
some
examples
of
how
it's
been
done
and
and
look
at
the
precedents
that
this
might
set
in
taking
over
the
responsibility,
because
this
is
public
right-of-way
and
that's
where
sidewalks
belong.
I'd.
A
A
N
G
I
Roby
for
those
who
have
talkable
or
sidewalks
has
been
a
thorn
in
my
side
since
I've
been
in
the
council,
but
what
is
it
in
our
process
where
this
is
continually
a
problem
and
I
think
Sarah,
you
kind
of
addressed
some
of
them?
That
is
that
the
council
has
made
decisions
where
we'll
let
this
go
for
a
while,
knowing
full
well
that
you
may
be
called
upon
to
fulfill
that
obligation
and
Doug
even
asked
a
good
question.
He
said:
I
had
to
pay
for
half
a
sidewalk.
I
A
We
can
do
there
is,
and
I
mean
if
you
the
way
that
we
have
addressed.
This
is
very
consistently
in
the
last
20
years.
Sidewalks
are
required,
but,
prior
to
that,
even
though
the
ordinance
required
them,
they
were
waive.
That
requirement
was
waived
to
save
money
for
for
homeowners
as
well
developers
didn't
have
to
pay
it.
A
It
was
passed
on
to
the
property
owners
and
then
property
owners
were
inconsistently
allowed
not
to
have
to
put
him
in
some
were
required
to,
but,
like
the
ordinance
says,
and
others
were
not
and
that's
inconsistent,
we
have
been
fairly
consistent.
The
entire
time
I've
worked
here,
like
other
communities
that
everybody
struggles
with
this
and
we
were
trying
to
be
consistent,
but
deferring
the
cost
to
the
public
for
sidewalks
is
a
precedent.
I
will
tell
you.
We
have
not
been
doing
that.
We
have
not
been
doing
that.
A
This
is
different
from
the
way
we've
been
trying
to
be
consistent
so
that
people
know
up
front
sidewalk
we're
following
our
ordinance.
Our
ordinance
says:
sidewalks
go
in
on
both
sides
of
every
street
with
every
subdivision.
Now
that
one
that
did
not
happen,
the
developer
deferred
and
the
future
homeowners
built
their
homes
and
did
not
put
their
sidewalks
in
and
in
this
case,
I
have
the
building
permit
right
here.
A
In
my
hand,
when
a
homeowner
didn't
have
to
put
the
road
in
next
to
his
house,
he
was
just
required
to
put
the
sidewalk
in,
and
it
says
each
owner
responsible
for
half
of
the
sidewalk
and
it
went
down
the
middle
of
the
street.
Instead
of
having
both
property
owners
put
a
sidewalk
all
the
way
along
their
property,
which
is
what
the
ordinance
says
they
shared
one
down
the
middle
and-
and
it
seems
ridiculous
that
it's
there.
O
A
D
Mean
we've
got
a
bigger
issue
and
a
half
shot
right,
but
I
I
do
a
pre.
I
do
agree
with
John's
concept,
so
I
mean.
Can
we
get
a
motion
and
get
an
action
on
this
particular
topic
and
then
take
them
to
take
up
beer,
a
bigger
look
at
this
going
forward?
So,
let's
see,
if
expediency
tonight,
let's
act
on
the
motion
and
and
move
on.
Okay.
A
D
F
D
F
V
H
V
The
park
was
because
there
was
no
park
out
there
and
all
the
parks
were
so
far
away.
The
land
was
donated
to
the
city
to
put
a
parking
out
there,
because
there
was
so
many
young
families
out
there
and
you
would
have
to
most
areas
in
town,
there's
parks
that
are
available
for
children
to
walk
to
or
ride
their
bikes,
but
no
one
could
get
easily
to
a
park
with
their
kids.
V
But
I
do
know
that
it
was
because
I
went
to
the
meeting.
It
was
the
first
home
owners
out
there
because
we've
been
out
there
for
27
years
and
we
went
to
the
meeting
with
small
kids
because
we
wanted,
you
know
to
be
able
to
have
access
to
it,
and
so
I
do
remember.
It
was
just
there
was
nowhere
for
the
kids
to
go
and
play
that
was
safe
other
than
you
know
in
front
of
the
house
or
on
the
street
or
whatever
yeah.
F
F
S
F
A
S
A
A
A
F
I
D
You
know
rolled
out
the
red
carpet
these
Barnstormers
over
the
weekend
that
they
were
just
so
impressed
the
friend,
the
cooperation,
the
assistance
and
you
know
so
often
we
beat
up
ourselves
and
it's
nice
to
hear
that
coming
from
outside
sources
that
hey
work
and
harden
ourselves
at
times
that
that
the
weekend
put
on
a
good
show-
and
it
was
nice
to
those
comments-
I
want
to
express
my
appreciation
of
Julie
and
your
crew
when
whoever
else
was
involved.
But
it
was
nice
hear
those
words
you.
V
V
A
V
V
But
when
we
were
all
here
when
we
were
talking
about
the
Ice
Arena,
the
cost
of
that
etc.
I've
spoken
to
John
Schmieder
about
that,
and
he
I
asked
him.
If
he
had
anyone,
he
could
recommend
at
the
mayor's
request
to
maybe
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
things
that
are
coming
along
with
the
Ice
Arena,
and
so
he
gave
me
the
name
of
Eric
Sullivan,
who
is
with
sports
facilities,
advisory
and
the
mayor
and
I
and
Glen.
V
Had
a
conference
call
with
him,
and
this
company
takes
a
very
deep
dive
into
a
facility
and
they
have
worked
for
many
different
cities
when
building
of
facilities
with
millions
of
dollars
of
investment
comes
up,
and
so
I've
got
a
copy
of
it
here
and
I
know
you
have
a
copy
and
maybe
Janna
can
get
that
and
out
to
the
council.
But
this
is
everything
from
taking
a
look
at
what
the
building
costs
and
the
building
structure
is
like.
V
This
is
what
these
folks
do
for
a
living
they've,
not
only
helped
people
make
decisions
or
cities
make
decisions,
but
they've
run
these
facilities
as
well.
So
in
the
deep
dive
it
comes
right
down
to
cost
to
run
it
other
uses.
What
the
economic
impact
of
all
of
those
other
uses
are.
He
said
really
to
build
an
indoor
facility
like
that
in
a
in
a
city
that
has
long
winters,
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
use
it
for
more
than
one
use,
and
these
guys
can
pull
uses
out
of
their
hat.
V
That
we
would
have
never
thought
of.
You
know
even
concession,
return-on-investment
things
like
that
right,
don't
a
uniform
cost
wages.
Everything
and
I
know
he
showed
us
a
spreadsheet
I
think
it
was
Appleton
Wisconsin,
which
is
a
little
bigger
market.
But
if
you
took
it
down
to
scale
it
was
pretty
impressive
and
it
would
be
a
five-year
plan
and
it
would
be
everything
from
salaries,
operations
to
just
buying
things
like
toilet
paper
and
towels
and
whatever.
So
it's
very
very
specific.
V
He
had
about
an
eight
week
turnaround
time,
because
you
know
it's
the
math
it's
kind
of
the
same,
but
you
just
have
to
plug
in
all
the
personal
information,
and
so
they
would
come
and
interview
the
stakeholders.
I
think
the
investment
cost
was
around
thirty
three
thousand
dollars
which
I
guess
when
you
put
that
into
you,
know
an
eight
point:
what
7
million
dollar
facility
that
we're
not
sure
we're
gonna
be
able
to
use
right
away?
A
As
such,
the
taxpayers
deserve
to
have
a
realistic
analysis
of
the
cost
and
the
economic
impact
of
constructing
an
Ice
Arena
in
our
community
and
I'm
I'm,
going
to
be
looking
for
partnerships
for
paying
for
this
study.
I
think
it
needs
to
be
done
before
we
would
proceed
with
building
the
Ice
Arena
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
something
we
we
can
sustain
in
the
future.
A
V
Are
a
lot
of
things
that
we
haven't
thought
of
just
in
that
spreadsheet
that
we
saw
initially,
but
this
is
what
these
guys
do
for
a
living
and
they've
got
data
they've
been
doing
this
for
many
years.
There
was
also
some
testimonials
from
some
other
clients
of
theirs
in
the
proposal.
I
also
have
some
video
and
I.
V
We
don't
want
to
under
build.
We
want
to
have
something
that
we
can
use
for
many
years
that
can
draw
people
in
so
I've
got
this.
The
mayor
also
does-
and
maybe
you
can
have
that
emailed
out
I'm
just
kind
of
a
the
person
that
brings
everybody
together,
but
I
think
that
you
know
he
came
very
highly
recommended.
He
and
John
worked
well
together,
and
that
would
impact.
You
know
that
this
quote
for
having
the
sports
tourism
element
really
have.
V
You
know,
help
us
bring
everything
together,
so
it's
cohesive
and
we
can
really
get
in
there
and
sell
water
tone
that
was
about
the
same
amount
of
money,
but
I
think
that
we've
got
a
lot
of
facility
and
we've
got
a
lot
of.
You
know
dates
that
are
filled
and
either
one
of
these
studies
is
going
to
pay
us
back.
I
mean.
V
Very
long
before
we
recoup
their
costs,
so
I
will
have
to
get
on
the
agenda
to
talk
about
this
because
I'm
right
knee
deep
into
my
budget
and
we'll
have
to
decide.
You
know
how
that's
going
to
go
to
so
I.
Just
don't
want
everybody
to
confuse
the
two,
so
we've
got
both
of
them,
but
no
one
is
a
little
different
from
the
other
yeah.
A
All
right
thanks
Julie
is
there
any
other
new
business,
any
liaison
member
reports?
Okay,
we
do
have
a
need
to
go
into
executive
session
tonight
in
order
to
consult
with
legal
counsel
on
employee
negotiations,
and
we
do
expect
to
take
action
when
we
come
out.
So
look
for
a
motion
to
go
into
executive
session,
move
by
Councilman
bill,
how
a
second
by
a
Councilwoman
manty,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
I
was
a
post,
signifier,
say,
nay,
motion
carries
all
right,
we're
an
executive.
X
X
X
X
W
W
A
I've,
which
is
appointment
of
City
Engineer
and
I,
would
like
to
recommend
the
appointment
of
Heath
Vaughn
I
as
the
city
engineer
at
an
annual
salary
of
$125,000
and
a
moving
allowance
of
$4,000
by
the
city
which
2,000
will
be
reimbursed
through
the
Watertown
development
company,
attract
an
enhanced
program.
So
I
look
for
a
motion
to
that
effect
got
a
move
motion
by
a
councilman
Roby
and
a
second
by
Councilman.
Why
any
discussion
all
right?
All
those,
oh,
oh,
the
effective
starting
date
is
to
be
determined.