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A
A
So
the
third
item
is
approval
of
the
agenda
and
I
think
I'd
like
to
move
item
6,
which
is
the
highway
212
phase,
2
traffic
impact
study
up
to
the
top
and
talk
about
that
first
and
then
we'll
do
the
cost-sharing
presentation
after
that,
because
I
am
expecting
another
councilman
to
arrive.
We
do
have
a
quorum,
but
I'd
like
for
him
to
get
in
on
that,
and
the
finance
officer
will
be
in
shortly
as
well
and
be
nice
if
she
could
see
the
cost-sharing
program
presentation.
A
So
with
that
change
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
revised
agenda
moved
by
a
bill?
How
a
second,
by
Bueller
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay,
motion
carries
okay.
So
item
number
was
six
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
sign
a
contract
with
a
consultant
to
complete
the
highway
212
phase.
2
traffic
impact
study.
C
C
A
And
we
thought
all
that
all
of
the
proposals
were
good
and
the
companies
were
all
capable
and
HR
green
we've
worked
with
them
with
not
with
traffic
engineering
in
the
past,
but
we
have
worked
with
them
on
other
projects
and
we've
been
very
happy
with
them
as
a
consultant,
and
so
we'll
we'll
be
looking
forward
to
working
with
them
on
this
project.
Would
you
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
what
the
work
will
be?
We
have
to
do
this
study
for
the
d-o-t.
A
This
is
part
of
their
212
project
and
the
money
will
come
from
the
the
capital
improvement
fund.
So
we
didn't
have
it
budgeted
specifically
for
this
project,
but
there's
money
in
that
fund
that
we'll
be
able
to
cover
the
cost
of
this
study
and
it'll
come
out
of
this
year's
money
because
we
need
it
done
very
soon.
A
B
D
We
we
have
proposed
or
asked
for
this
study
to
look
at
the
possibility
of
closing
17th
Street
from
tenth
Avenue
north
and
then
realigning
10th
Avenue
to
the
east
and
creating
a
new
roadway
to
the
east
that
will
extend
into
the
working
lots
of
target
and
possibly
closing
off
the
the
frontage
road.
Ninth
Avenue
South,
which
is
just
the
frontage
road
for
target
Menards
:.
D
D
And
I'm
gonna
pull
up
our
rubric
that
so
what
we
looked
at
as
a
team
which
happened
to
be
just
sarah
heath,
and
I
we
went
through
and
individually
ranked,
the
the
proposals
from
the
three
firms
based
on
qualified
coalification
of
the
firm
and
the
staff,
the
project
approach
and
the
methodology.
The
proposed
completion
date,
which
we
waited
the
highest
because
the
state
was
pushing
for
this
as
fast
as
possible.
And
then
compensation
was
the
least
that
we
looked
at.
D
We
limited
down
to
two
pretty
quick
and
ultimately,
we
decided
to
go
with
HR.
Green
I
did
make
some
calls
to
the
state
to
see
what
their
thoughts
were
and
since
they
probably
worked
with
HR
Green
in
that
capacity
a
little
more
than
we
have,
and
they
said
that
they
would
suggest
going
with
them.
They
have
done
great
work
for
them
in
the
past
and
they
provided
good
examples
in
their
RFP
as
well.
A
So
we're
looking
forward
to
getting
some
results
back
fairly
quickly.
This
will
be
completed
in
a
flash.
It'll
require
some
assistance
from
our
staff
to
help
help
them
get
the
information
they
need
to
do
their
analysis,
but
this
analysis
is
going
to
probably
bring
up
a
couple
of
projects
that
we'll
be
looking
at
doing
in
the
future
on
our
own,
as
well
as
for
the
state
it'll
change,
how
they
design
highway
212-
and
this
is
the
phase
2
section.
A
A
They
do
need
to
start
now,
though,
for
the
planning,
because
these
are
some
pretty
major
changes
everywhere-
you
see
a
red
X
is
a
closed
Road
that
we
have
open
right
now.
So
these
are
some
significant
changes
that
they'll
be
looking
at,
not
that
they're
for
sure
gonna
do
that,
but
that's
what
they'll
be
looking
at.
So
we
have
a
motion.
Second,
oh
constant:
aha,
what.
B
A
Any
other
questions
all
right:
there's
a
motion
and
second
on
the
floor
for
recommendation
of
this
contract
with
HR
green
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
okay,
the
next
we'll
do
the
sidewalk
cost-sharing
program,
presentation,
Colin's,
gonna
present
a
PowerPoint
and
I
realized
that
the
last
meeting
here
was
the
last
meeting
that
several
of
the
council
members
are
unfamiliar
with
the
fact
that
we
have
a
sidewalk
costume
program
and
it's
been
a
very
popular
program
that
people
have
used
so
take
it
away.
Colin
all.
D
Right
Thank
You
mayor,
so
this
is
just
to
inform
you
on
a
cautionary
program
and
hopefully
inform
the
public
a
little
more
of
this
as
well.
This
has
been
something
that
I
think
is
kind
of
growing.
Once
people
find
out
about
it,
it's
a
good.
It's
a
great
program,
I'll
kind
of
just
jump
in
here.
Why
do
we
have
this
program?
It's
it's
merely
to
incentivize
homeowners,
to
maintain
and
have
a
sidewalk
in
front
of
their
their
residents.
D
They
are
responsible
for
sidewalk
installation
and
the
repairs
for
the
benefit
benefit
of
the
public.
We
always
strive
for
well-maintained
sidewalks
I
know,
we've
had
some
complaints
and
in
the
recent
past
that
we
try
to
look
at
each
case
that
comes
in
each
complaint
or
if
we
see
something
while
we're
driving
around
or
or
doing
anything
like
that,
we
do
try
to
contact
the
owners
and
have
them
improve.
It.
D
D
Sidewalks
for
new
homes
are
generally
required
already
heard
of
the
building
permit.
Those
are
not
covered
in
this
program.
If
it's
on
your,
if
it's
not
installed
already,
we
do
not
share
that
cost
with
you,
because
that's
part
of
building
a
house,
a
permit,
is
required
for
any
work
in
the
right-of-way,
and
that
includes
sidewalks.
Once
we
received
that
permit
it
comes
in
to
our
staff.
D
Laurie
usually
takes
the
phone
call
that
they're
ready,
so
we
require
them
to
call
our
department
before
they
start
pouring.
So
the
forms
are
up.
We
want
to
go,
look
and
make
sure
it's
a
DEA
compliant,
and
that
kind
of
hits
on
this
next
bullet
point
as
well
that
it
they
must
be
to
a
DEA
standards.
If
they're,
not
they
don't
get
reimbursed.
For
that
and
that's
you
know
it
makes
it
makes
it
SARS.
D
It
makes
it
easier
on
our
staff
to
inspect
this
stuff,
because
we
have
one
set
standard
that
we're
looking
at
and
that's
required
by
the
state.
Anyway,
once
we
look
at
the
forms
we
give
them
the
okay
to
pour,
and
then
we
go
back
and
measure
and
make
sure
that
everything
was
poured
correctly
and
that
there's
no
faults
and
upon
that
sign
off
on
our
staff.
Then
we
write
up
the
the
cost
reimbursement
which
I'm
gonna
hit
on
the
next
slide
here.
D
D
Keep
in
mind
in
2011
the
costs
were
a
lot
lower
being
reimbursed
I
think
it
started
off
with
one
dollar
when
this
policy
started
and
it's
increased
in
May
of
2015
when
you
guys
revised
it
to
the
two
dollars.
So
there
was
a
semi
recent
update
in
price
and
previous
to
that.
The
the
main
policy
was
up
to
fifty
percent
up
to
a
certain
amount
that
they
were
reimbursed
for.
So
it
was
very
kind
of
subjective
to
what
was
being
described.
I.
A
Think
we
upped
it
to
$2
a
square
foot
in
2011
and
we
were
doing
it
without
a
policy.
We
were
just
reimbursing
people
up
till
that
point
and
it
was
50%
of
the
cost
up
to
2000
up
to
$2
a
square
foot
in
2011
when
we
did
the
and
then
the
change
I
believe,
let's
see
if
Laurie
nods
or
shakes
her
head
in
2015,
we
went
to
just
a
straight
two
dollars:
a
square
foot
and
not
50%
that
wasn't
the
change.
Can
you
come
to
the
microphone?
I'm?
Sorry,
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
E
A
And
we'd
been
I
came
in
2006
and
the
city
had
been
reimbursing
property
owners
prior
to
that
time.
Whenever
the
city
would
order
a
sidewalk
repaired
by
the
adjacent
property
owner,
the
city
was
reimbursing
at
the
rate
of
$1
per
square
foot
up
until
that
time.
So
there
it's
been
through
some
changes.
It
was
all
pretty
loose
until
2011
when
the
Council
adopted
a
formal
policy
and
we
started
keeping
records
of
who
was
participating.
Okay,
Colin,
okay,.
D
D
This
is
the
state
law.
It
allows
the
city
to
acquire
property
property
owners
to
build
or
repair
their
sidewalks.
So
that's
the
the
law
that
we
do
follow
and
try
to
enforce
with
everything
and
snow
removal
is
the
responsibility
of
the
adjacent
property
owner.
Even
though
the
sidewalk
does
sit
within
public
right-of-way,
it
is
still
their
responsibility,
as
is
maintaining
the
boulevard
grass.
That's
usually
there.
D
So
here's
our
our
ordinance.
That
says
you
know
the
owner.
Occupant
of
any
building
within
the
city
must
clear
the
snow
and
that
that
also
applies
to
you,
know
weeds
and
mowing
as
well.
You
have
to
maintain
those
so
and
our
code
enforcement
officer
does
a
great
job
at
enforcing
that
and
writing
letters
to
people
who
need
them
all
or
maintain
their
their
weeds
or
have
their
snow
removed.
D
A
D
So
the
first
one
is
the
new
fill
in
walk
or
existing
in
existing
neighborhood.
So
this
means,
if
it
wasn't
on
your
building,
permit
that
you
were
required.
This
usually
happens
in
older
neighborhoods.
Really
it's
the
only
place
that
happens
is
there
was
never
sidewalk
installed
or
required
at
that
time,
and
now
either
the
City
Council
orders
it
in
or
they
come
in
and
say
they
want
to
replace
that
we
do
offer
the
$2
per
square
foot.
For
that.
D
New
ramp
in
existing
neighborhood,
that's
currently
part
of
our
program.
Right
now
we
have
annual
program
right
now
to
replace
all
88
ramps,
so
the
city
does
pay
for
a
hundred
percent
of
that,
and
that's
really
to
hit
the
88
requirements.
We
were
having
troubles
on
with
some
homeowners
and
selling
them
incorrectly,
and
then
we
have
to
tear
them
out
and
replace
them
anyway.
So
that's
kind
of
where
that
sits.
That's
why
that's
at
a
hundred
percent,
their
new
carriage
locks
are
not
reimbursable.
We
only
do
public
walkways.
D
A
carriage
walk
is
to
your
own
house.
It
doesn't
benefit
the
public
repaired
replacement.
That's
also
again
included
with
this
$2
per
square
foot
and.
D
Obviously,
the
same
applies
to
the
ramps
that
we
pay
a
hundred
percent.
We
are
we
tried
to
do
roughly
I'll,
just
say
forty
ramps
a
year.
It
does
depend
on
bids
and
kind
of
where
we
sit
in
our
program,
but
our
staff
does
a
great
job
at
identifying
the
ones
that
need
it
most
and
that's
that's
kind
of
where
we've
started
and
kept
going
on
that
again.
Carriage
walks
are
not
covered
and
then
new
development.
We
do
not
cover
any
cost
for
new
development
for
sidewalk
and
ramps.
Ramps
are
required
as
part
of
development.
D
G
G
But
that
happens
a
lot
in
my
neighborhood
looks
kind
of
silly.
You
know
the
bridge
to
nowhere.
We've
got
the
eighty,
but
88
access
ramps
to
nowhere
and
that
northeast
part
of
town
is
you've.
Heard
me
say
before
has
an
issues
with
sidewalks,
so
my
guess,
my
recommendation
is:
there's
no
guarantee
this
programs
going
to
be
around
forever.
So
if,
if
there's
a
homeowner,
that
is
in
a
scenario
where
you've
got
an
ad
a
accessible
ramp
and
there's
no
sidewalk
I
would
take
advantage
of
this
program.
B
A
B
G
A
We
could
do
a
better
job
of
advertising.
This
is
what's
on
the
website.
Right
now
describes
your
responsibilities
and
that
and
that
the
programs
available
and
then
some
frequently
asked
questions
which
Laurie
frequently
answers
questions.
She
answers
most
of
the
questions,
so
she
put
those
on
there.
H
D
It
we
really
do
it
on
complaint
basis,
trying
to
identify
every
sidewalk
that
needs
to
be
repaired
in
water
tone
by
just
our
staff
would
be
an
immense
task
that
we
probably
would
never
be
able
to
keep
ahead
of,
especially
with
all
of
our
other
duties,
even
if
we
had
a
full-time
person
constantly
doing
that.
So
we
do
do
it
solely
on
complaints
currently
or
if
we
see
something
by
ourselves
that
really
crumbled
up
sidewalk
or
sidewalk
that
has
heaved
in
the
dues
of
frost
or
freeze
thaw
cycles.
D
H
Another
question
too
and
I
think
there's
more
for
the
public
if
you've
got
trees,
so
you've
got
some
hold
some
really
good
trees.
How
do
we
deal
with
that?
You
know
if
the
sidewalk
would
typically
line
up.
If
say
you
got
an
ad
a
ramp
and
then
the
sidewalk
would
line
up
a
certain
way.
Do
we
allow
them
to
go
around?
H
D
We
definitely
have
allowed
them
to
go
around
their
sidewalk
suite.
We
do
want
a
sidewalk
in
the
right-of-way
if
possible,
just
because
that
is
the
right
place
for
a
sidewalk.
If
it
does
have
to
go
on
a
private
property,
we
would
have
to
look
at
an
access
easement
of
some
sort
before
we
do
allow
that
just
so
there's
public
access-
and
we
don't
have
issues
in
the
future
for
that
now
it's
really
a
case-by-case
basis.
But
yes,
we
have.
We
have
allowed
that
to
go
around
trees,
Thank
You,
councilman.
E
B
D
The
curb
is
not:
we
have
no
reimbursement
program
for
the
curb
I
know:
Rob
Bane
and
the
street
superintendent
and
I
and
Shane
before
he
left
and
I
think
we've
talked
about
it
with
the
mayor
as
well.
I'll
pause
the
possibility
of
implementing
something
like
that
that
could
be
coming
pretty
soon.
I
know,
rob
has
requested
some
additional
funding
for
stormwater
improvements
and
curve
falls
into
that.
So
we
are
trying
to
get
rid
of
old
square
curb
in
town.
D
B
Could
see
portions
of
town
where
the
sidewalk
is
right
up
next
to
the
curb,
and
if
that
is
deteriorating
on
the
sidewalk
and
the
curb
tends
to
go
with
it,
I
mean
it's
like
well,
do
you
want
them
tearing
up
part
of
the
road
to
replace
the
curb
with
it
or
are
we
gonna?
Have
them
stop
sidewalk
and
then
have
a
space
for
curb
as
well,
so
I
think
that's
something
you
should
probably
look
at
as.
B
A
Unfortunately,
it
didn't
meet
our
standards
when
it
was
built,
and
so
that
was
really
close
to
having
a
policy
in
place
and
and
I.
Think
it's
a
good
idea
that,
if
someone's
out
there
replacing
the
curb
with
at
their
own
expense
that
if
they
do
it
in
accordance
with
our
specifications,
that
we
should
pay
for
that,
because
those
are
our
responsibility.
But
we
do
have
a
lot
of
people
that
don't
like
cracks
and
the
chips
they
don't
they
don't.
They
want
their
curb
replaced
because
it
has
chips
in
it
or
whatever.
A
We
look,
don't
look
at
aesthetics.
We
have
a
backlog
of
curbing
to
replace
in
our
town.
That
is
if
it's
not
functioning,
it
is
not
a
priority
for
us
if
it
is
functioning
so
aesthetic
reasons
do
not
warrant
curb
replacement.
We
would
only
replace
a
curb
if
it's
not
functioning,
so
it
I
think
that
probably
a
large
percentage
of
the
inquiries
that
we
get
for
curb
replacement
are
because
of
cracks
and
chips,
but
water
still
flows
down
the
gutter
and
that's
what
we're
looking
for.
So
that's
a
another
topic.
A
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
idea
for
us
to
have
a
curb
replacement
policy,
but
it's
going
to
have
to
be
specific
about.
Does
it
meet
our
criteria
for
replacement
we've
gone
out
for
bids
every
year
for
decades
for
curb
and
gutter
replacement,
and
we
don't
ever
get
a
bid
for
whatever
reason
we're
gonna
try
and
go
about
it
a
different
way
with
a
new
street
superintendent.
D
B
B
A
That
we
want
to
make
sure
we
had
a
contractor
that
knew
what
they
were
doing,
whereas
sidewalks
is
it's
not
that
hard
to
do
a
sidewalk
on
your
own?
But
these
are.
These
are
good
programs
and
I
think
every
spring
we
should
probably
do
some
public
announcement
that
the
program
exists
as
long
as
it's
in
the
budget
and
you
councils
still
willing
to
fund
cost-sharing
for
people
making
repairs
to
their
sidewalks
I.
Think
it's
been
a
popular
program
and
we
should
continue
it
councilman
Danforth.
A
F
A
I've
been
asked
that
question
quite
a
bit
of
if
it's
okay,
to
trim
my
overhanging
branch,
that's
over
the
sidewalk,
because
I
know
that's
the
public
right
away
and
maybe
I
can't
be
in
there
with
cutting
my
limb
off
of
my
tree.
You
absolutely
can
trim
your
tree.
That's
overhanging,
the
public,
right-of-way
and
the
city
can
to
trim
your
tree
and
a
lot
of
times.
The
power
company
will
come
in
and
make
a
very
unsightly
trimming
if
you're
not
keeping
your
tree
trimmed
up.
So
any
other
questions,
councilman
Villa,
actually.
A
Park
department
has
an
arborist
on
the
staff.
Those
are
City
trees
if,
if
the
tree's
trunk
is
in
the
public
right-of-way,
that's
the
city's
tree
and
you
can't
cut
that
down
without
the
city's
permission,
if
it's
sick
or
whatever
the
city
would
probably
grant
you
permission
to.
Do
that
and
we've
been
thinking
about
getting
some
kind
of
a
forum
together
of
hold
harmless
type
of
a
an
agreement
for
people
to
do
that.
I
broke.
A
A
A
D
D
This
this
is
a
change
order
for
the
shooting
range
to
extend
it,
but
the
completion
day
by
21
days
or
three
weeks,
and
the
reason
for
this
extension
is
the
materials
for
the
structures
themselves
were
delayed
until
the
second
week
of
August.
So
they
were
just
able
to
get
the
materials
and
started
building
immediately
and
the
reason
they
were
delayed
is
because
the
state's
pecked
out
certain
materials
that
are
not
very
common
and
so
when
they
went
to
order
them,
like
the
posts,
had
to
be
green
treated.
D
All
the
way
up,
whereas
normal
building
posts
that
are
treated
are
only
so
many
feet
are
green
treated
and
our
contractor
even
went
tried
to
contact
North
Dakota
Minnesota,
all
of
South
Dakota.
They
were
all
out
of
the
material,
so
they
had
a
special
order
it
in
and
that's
why
the
delay
was
so
we
did.
This
doesn't
increase
the
the
amount
of
the
contract.
It
just
increases
the
time.
D
D
But
the
design
of
the
300
yard
range
was
the
outlier
and
I
had
to
try
to
figure
out
where,
where,
if
we
could
do
that,
and
the
state
said
that
they
were
short-staffed
and
couldn't
they
didn't
have
the
time
to
do
it.
So
I've
been
looking
around
and
trying
to
make
some
phone
calls
to
engineering
firms
that
could
do
that
in
an
orderly
fashion,
so
that
the
contractor
is
still
there
on
site.
D
But
there's
been
not
much
luck.
We
do
Heath
made
a
call
today,
and
we
do
have
a
meeting
set
up
tomorrow
with
a
possibility
of
an
engineering
firm,
but
there's
no
guarantee,
but
just
to
give
you
guys
a
little
bit
of
an
update
where
we're
sitting
on
that.
There
is
no
guarantee
for
that,
but
we
did
look
into
it
because.
F
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up,
Colin
I
ran
into
one
of
our
local.
You
happy
guys.
That's
been
involved
in
this
the
other
day,
I'm
sure
he
was
excited
to
talk
to
me
at
Ivy,
but
we
were
just
talking
about
this
project
and
and
I
need
to
get
out
there.
Apparently
there's
a
lot
of
dirt
being
moved
and
a
lot
of
activity
so
that
that's
exciting,
but
I
did
ask
them
what
their
position
was
in
regards
to
a
200
yard
or
a
300
yard,
and
they
were
very
much
in
favor
of
it.
F
D
Office
of
Pierre
was
highly
on
board
with
it.
They
just,
unfortunately,
were
not
able
to
provide
the
design
services
that
they
were
throughout
the
beginning
phase
of
this
project,
and
that's
just
they
have
too
much
on
their
plate
right
now,
so
they
they
were
actually
willing
to
cost
share
engineering
fees
with
us.
If
we
were
able
to
do
that,
but
like
I
said,
I
may
try
to
make
some
phone
calls.
I've
tried
to
research
a
little
bit
about
who
would
even
do
that.
The
office
and
Pierre
did
not
give
me
any
recommendations.
D
They
said
they've
always
done
in-house
they've
never
contracted
with
anyone
to
do
a
design
like
this,
so
it
makes
it
a
little
more
difficult
and
our
staff
is
definitely
not
and
in
a
position
to
offer
the
design
for
that
either
because
for
one
I,
don't
think
we
have
knowledge
of
gun
ranges.
The
berms
have
to
be
a
certain
height
I've,
never
gone
through
that
process,
not
saying
I
couldn't
but,
and
the
time
factor
plays
in
because
we
want
her
the
current
contractors
on
site.
B
Maybe
we
could
reach
across
the
borders
and
maybe
Minnesota
I
would
have
something
or
maybe
North
Dakota
would
have
something
that
they
have
done
recently
and
we
can
piggyback
back
and
something
that
they
have
done
as
far
as
the
engineering
services
of
that
I
didn't,
it
might
just
be.
You
know,
frankly,
Google
and
North
Dakota
Minnesota
see
if
they
had
any
new
gun
ranges
that
were
opened
or
some
of
that's
done
in
the
last
five
years.
D
A
Right
we
have
a
motion
and
second
on
the
floor.
Is
there
any
other
discussion
before
we
take
a
vote
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
okay.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
old.
Business
saying
buddy
have
any
old
business
I
do
have
some
old
business.
I
I
would
like
to
make
a
few
comments
about
the
Ice
Arena
request
for
proposals.
There
was
a
column
in
the
newspaper
that
generated
a
lot
of
discussion
and
I.
A
Think
discussion
is
good,
I
welcome,
debate
and
so
I
I
don't
have
any
problem
with
that
other
than
there's
a
lot
of
confusion.
Basing
that
on
what
people
are
asking
me
and
I
think
that
I
should
clarify
what
that
RFP
was
I
mentioned
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
at
the
council
meeting
that
I
was
about
to
issue
a
request
for
proposals
for
economic
and
for
the
Ice
Arena
and
then
I
didn't
do
it.
A
I
do
have
the
RFP
drafted
and
I've
been
on,
the
fence
should
should
I
put
it
out,
should
I
not
and
the
the
question
it
has
confused
people
and
I
apologize
for
that.
The
ice
arena
project
has
not
been
and
will
not
be
held
up
by
an
economic
analysis
waiting
for
one,
it
is
not
stalled.
The
project
is
moving
forward
right.
Now,
it's
in
the
design
stage
and
the
committee's
working
very
hard
to
come
up
with
a
well
designed
arena.
A
Everyone
and
I
mean
everyone
wants
this
done
right,
the
first
time
we
don't
want
to
make
any
mistakes,
so
they're
working
very
hard
to
see
what
we
can
trim
and
what
we
absolutely
cannot
trim.
The
purpose
of
the
economic
analysis
is
to
have
a
plan
to
pay
for
the
arena's
ongoing
expenses.
As
mayor
I
have
a
responsibility
to
the
taxpayers.
A
It's
important
to
have
a
plan
before
you
build
so
that
you
know
what
to
expect
after
you
build,
and
especially
when
it
comes
to
spending
eight
or
ten
million
taxpayer
dollars
or
even
more,
and
we
have
options
so
want
to
be
prepared
to
choose
an
option
with
good
information.
Soon.
The
community
will
be
making
decisions,
not
whether
or
not
we'll
build
an
ice
arena.
We
have
an
ice
arena.
We
need
a
new
Ice
Arena.
We've
already
decided
that.
So
that's
not
the
question.
A
There
are
some
staff
members
and
a
councilman
working
on
putting
together
some
numbers
for
the
cost
of
maintaining
and
running
a
facility.
So,
ultimately
the
council
will
act
on
what
we're
going
to
build
and
I
want
them
to
have
the
best
possible
information
from
which
to
make
their
decision.
So
that's
the
whole
purpose
of
the
analysis.
So
if
anyone
has
any
questions,
please
by
all
means
send
me
an
email
call
in
and
ask
me
your
question
and
I
am
happy
to
talk
about
that
it
isn't
stopping
the
Ice
Arena
progress
right
now.
A
I
Yes,
thanks
mayor
I
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
little
bit
of
discussion
going
or
council
feedback
the
legislature.
This
last
session
did
it
quite
a
bit
of
revision
to
the
chapter
35
relating
to
alcohol
and
licenses,
and
that
sort
of
thing
one
thing
they
did
was
in
regards
to
Sunday
alcohol
sales.
They
basically
flipped
the
the
way.
The
statute
reads
where
if
we
want
to
allow
Sunday
alcohol
sales
well,
okay,
prior
to
what
they
had
done,
if
we
wanted
to
allow,
we
had
to
affirmatively,
allow
it
now,
it's
the
other
way
around.
I
Now
alcohol
sales
are
allowed
every
day
of
the
year
from
7
a.m.
to
2
a.m.
unless
we
so
restrict
it
on
Sundays,
Christmas
or
Memorial
Day,
and
so
our
current
ordinance,
when,
when
it
was
the
other
way
around
it
said
alcohol
is
allowed
to
be
served
and
sold
on
Sundays,
starting
at
11:00
a.m.
until
12:00
a.m.
I
guess.
My
question
is
before
I
bring
forth
an
ordinance
to
to
bring
them
more
into
line
with
the
state
statute
is:
do
we
still
want
to
have
that
restriction
on
Sunday
sales
to
be
between
11
a.m.
I
I
B
I
B
I
Have
to
do
I'm
going
to
make
there's
going
to
be
some
changes
coming
forward
regardless,
it
just
depends
on
whether
or
not
we
want
to
keep
that
11
a.m.
restriction,
or
we
want
to
allow
it
essentially,
if
we,
if
we
want
to
allow
it
to
be
7
a.m.
to
2
a.m.
we
can
basically
strike
that
language
from
our
ordinance
and
then
just
fall
in
line
with
the
state.
I
G
I
remember:
we
discussed
this
some
of
the
reasons
for
making
that
change
had
to
do
with
with
competitiveness,
because
the
our
local
people
felt
they're
at
a
disadvantage
with
the
restrictions.
If
I
remember
correctly,
that's
the
way
it
was
sounds
like
the
state
change.
Isn't
that
much
different
than
what
we
currently
have?
Maybe
extends
it
a
little
bit.
G
E
E
You
know:
somebody's
gonna
say
that
whether
they
know
that
our
law
is
allowed
to
restrict
it
or
not
and
I
think
that
that
makes
it
consistent
and
I
think
it
makes
it
easier
for
everybody
to
understand
and
they
can
still
open
at
11:00
if
they
want
they
have
the
choice.
You
know
to
be
able
to
open
whatever
time
they
want
on
Sundays,
but
now
we've
given
them
an
option.
That's
in
line
like
Don
says
with
the
state
law,
council,
I.
F
Would
I
would
support
what
Don's
recommendation
is
because
the
first
thing
we
got
to
ask
yourself
is:
why
restrict
it
you
know
it.
We
either
do
it
because
there's
a
true
purpose
or
it's
a
feel-good
thing,
that
morality
thing
is
really
what
it
is.
I,
don't
believe.
It's
our
responsibility
to
try
to
legislate
morality,
so
I
would
agree
that
we
should
set
it
up
along
the
lines
of
what.
I
A
Anything
else
you
know
they're
old,
bizarre
new
business.
There
is
no
reason
to
go
into
executive
session,
so
I'll
look
for
a
motion
to
adjourn
moved
by
councilman
Bueller
second
by
councilman.
Why
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
those
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries.
We
are
adjourned
and
we'll
reconvene
at
5:30
for
the
council
meeting.