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B
B
B
C
We
remember
that
through
you,
we
are
all
related
and
that
you
call
us
to
be
good
relatives
to
one
another
help
us
to
be
that
good
relative
by
building
new
relationships
across
the
differences
we
allow
to
divide
us,
help
us
to
create
healthy
communities
for
this
generation
and
those
to
come
as
we
work,
providing
our
communities,
the
knowledge
tools
and
skills
for
healthy
choices,
healthy
environments
and
healthy
futures
Lord
send
down
upon
those
to
hold
office
in
the
city
of
Watertown,
your
spirit
of
wisdom,
charity
and
justice.
That
was
steadfast
purpose.
C
They
may
faithfully
serve
in
their
offices
to
promote
the
well-being
of
all
people.
We
confess
that
it's
often
easier
to
stay
comfortable
settling
for
things
as
they
are,
rather
than
working
to
make
them
better.
Give
us
courage
and
strength
to
step
out
of
our
comfort
zones
collaborating
across
our
community
persevering
beyond
politics.
Resistance
and
apathy
help
us
to
transform
our
world
into
one
where
we
have
strong
relationships,
strong
communities
and
where
we
see
and
respond
to
the
humanity
and
all
people.
Man
thank.
E
D
A
A
Any
other
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion,
carries
item.
2
is
public
comment,
and
this
is
the
time
set
aside
for
anyone
who
would
like
to
make
a
public
comment
to
step
forward
and
do
so
does
anyone
here
see
none
we'll
move
on
item
3
is
approval
of
the
agenda
and
before
I
get
a
motion.
I
would
like
to
remove
item
eight
we're
not
quite
ready
for
that,
but
now
I'd
like
a
motion
for
approval,
as
amended
sold
motion
by
Bill
Cowher
and
second
by
Y.
A
A
on
Saturday
July
20th
2019
at
Stokes,
Thomas,
City,
Park
and
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
for
this
and
I
I
know
we
have
the
chamber
present
president
here
in
case
anyone
has
any
questions,
but
would
you
like
to
come
speak
at
the
public
hearing
to
want
to
say
anything
that
your
state,
your
name
and
then
promoting?
Certainly.
G
A
F
G
Well,
the
beer
tent
tell
me:
you
know
that
they're
not
confined
that
area,
because
it's
no
but
park
them.
You
could
walk
from
your
camp
or
anywhere
you
want
in
that
part
and
drink
beer.
So
it's
yeah
one
time
we
did
kind
of
confine
it,
but
it
was
really
confined
so
several
years
ago
we
kind
of
did
away
with
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
G
No,
not
this
way
and
Matt
and
I
did
talk
about
a
contingency
to
have
the
in
the
event
coconut
capacitor
couldn't
be
at
the
location
because
of
the
water.
We
did
our
parking
that
we
were
concerned
about.
We
will
be
able
to
move
that
to
the
casino
speedway
todd
goes
in
a
really
good
and
said:
whatever
just
make
it
happen,
the
other
events
can
take
place.
The
new
campground,
that's
just
had
a
brand
new
road
put.
G
A
Questions
all
right,
I'll
look
for
action,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Item
number
5
is
application
for
a
special
retail
malt
beverage
and
wine
license
to
Lake
area
Zoological
Society
from
6
o'clock
p.m.
until
9
o'clock
p.m.
on
Friday
July
26th
at
bramble,
Park
Zoo,
and
this
is
for
zoofari
and
I,
see
some
zoo,
reps
here
and
so
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
Jamie
Stricker's
here
from
the
zoo.
If
do
you
want
to
promote
it?
J
So
Jamie
Stricker
from
the
bramble
Park
Zoo
and
this
event
used
to
be
called
Safari
and
we
did
change
it
so
now
it
is
called
sippin
Safari.
We
changed
it
a
little
bit,
so
it
used
to
be
in
June
each
year,
removing
it
to
July
tried
to
maybe
find
a
weekend
that
wasn't
quite
so
busy.
So
we
changed
the
event
and
then
we
are
going
more
towards
entertainment
and
foods
not
as
much
the
cultural
aspect
because
of
the
issues
with
the
Multicultural
Center
and
things
like
that.
We
just
decided
to
kind
of
try
something
new.
J
A
K
A
Opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
item
number.
Six
is
the
first
reading
of
ordinance
number
1906
amending
the
district
zoning
map
of
the
city
of
Watertown
South
Dakota
for
property
generally
located
north
of
the
sailboat
landing
on
Lake,
Camp,
Eska
and
legally
described
as
Lots
21
through
27
block
2
of
Lakeridge
addition
from
r1
single-family
residential
district
2,
C
3,
highway
commercial
district
subject
to
all
planning
requirements.
Now
this
is
just
a
first
reading.
A
L
Absolutely
thank
you,
madam
mayor
members,
the
council,
so
the
owner
of
this
property.
Mr.
Roger
Dali
has
petitioned
to
rezone
the
describe
property
from
currently
zoned
r1
single-family
residential
district
to
a
C
3
highway
commercial
district,
one
of
the
one
of
the
logics
of
rezoning
to
is
C
3,
is
that
it
is
adjacent
to
highway
20
and
meets
all
the
other
C
3
zoning
requirements,
or
would
upon
passing
of
this
of
this
reason.
L
At
the
May
23rd
Planning
Commission
meeting,
the
rezone
request
was
recommended
for
approval
by
the
Planning
Commission
to
the
City
Council
by
a
six
to
one
vote,
and
one
condition
was
added
to
that
motion
that
a
reap
lat
of
the
property
be
required
as
a
result,
the
reason
being
approved.
The
reason
for
the
necessary
replay
is
that
the
parcel
as
a
whole,
that's
under
one
ownership,
is
technically
plaited
as
seven
separate
Lots.
Those
individual
seven
Lots
do
not
meet
on
their
own.
L
The
minimum
size
requirement
for
AC
3
zoning
district,
so
they
would
need
to
be
combined
to
meet
the
minimum
20,000
square-foot
land
area.
For
that
C
3
zoning
district.
Once
the
seven
Lots
are
combined.
They
by
far
exceed
the
minimum
requirement
for
ac3
district.
That
was
the
only
condition
placed
on
the
approval
at
the
Planning
Commission
level,
and
it's
before
the
council
tonight.
First
reading
and
public
hearing
and
second
reading
will
be
at
the
next
council
meeting
right.
A
M
L
F
Got
a
follow
up
question
on
those
same
lines
as
I
understand
it
and
watching
the
Planning
Commission
meeting.
There
was
some
concern
about
a
C
3
designation
versus
C
2
being
a
little
more
restrictive,
but
we
do
not
have
the
I
guess
I'll
address
it
to
Matt.
We
don't
have
the
authority
to
change
that,
in
other
words,
either
up
or
down
on
the
C
3
and
then
I
mean
that's
as
far
no.
There
was
a
week.
We
cannot
change
the
designation
or
our
selves
as
a
council
action.
Is
that
correct.
I
Well,
if
the
applicant
were
to
come
back
forward
with
that
application,
but
at
the
time
of
action
it's
been
noticed
as
the
request
to
rezone
to
a
C
3.
So
it's
a
no
there
is
no
statute,
does
allow
for
minor
amendments
at
the
type
of
action,
but
I
would
say
that
that
would
not
qualify
as
a
minor
amendment.
N
Heath,
just
building
on
I
didn't
happen
to
watch
the
plan
commission,
but
building
on
what
might
get
asked
there.
What
is
the
plan
for
out
there
I
heard
somebody
say
that
that's
the
concern
that
that
people
have
is
that
it
was
a
little
ambiguous
as
to
what
was
going
to
be
put
out
there.
Do
you
know
the
answer
to
that
or
not?
Maybe
you
don't
know
it?
No.
L
That's
a
great
question:
councilman
Albertson,
madam
mayor,
so
in
the
discussion,
the
Planning
Commission
level,
the
applicant
was
present
at
that
meeting.
He's
present
here
this
evening
as
well
and
I'd
be
glad
to
invite
him
to
the
to
the
desk
to
share
any
intentions
of
this
reason.
I
would
heed
caution,
though,
that
anytime,
a
reason
is
before
the
board.
We
would
want
to
definitely
consider
the
entire
list
of
uses
and
not
get
as
much
hung
up
on
the
particular
proposed
use.
Reason
being
over
time.
L
O
A
A
O
M
L
If
you
start
to
restrict
on
a
per
applicant
basis
that
really
gets
the
city
into
a
kind
of
an
area
we
probably
don't
want
to
be
getting
into
because
of
the
concerns
for
the
subjectivity
that
comes
into
play
there.
So,
generally
speaking,
when
a
community
adopts
a
zoning
district
for
a
particular
property
that
property
owner
has
at
their
disposal
all
the
approved
uses
for
that
zoning
district.
M
Well,
if
that
could
understand,
I
may
agree
and
I
think
golly
I
think
your
intention
sounds
reasonable
to
me
in
regards
to
what
could
go
there,
but
when
you
consider
some
of
the
other
items
that
could
go
there
again
going
back
to
what
Heath
and
said
we
can't,
we
can't
focus
on
what
what
your
intention
is.
We
have
to
look
at
what
others
may
do
if
they
were
to
buy
the
property
or
something
that
you
could
do
if
it
didn't
work
out.
There
certainly
are
some
items
on
there.
P
Because
of
my
passion
for
the
lake
and
seeing
some
commercial
usage
at
the
lake
I
think
a
place.
That's
propped
between
a
a
highway
and
a
chimeric
boat
landing.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
optimal
places
for
for
commercial
on
the
lake,
because
it's
a
highly
developed
lake,
we're
running
out
of
places
for
things
to
bring
in
tourism,
which
will
increase
the
revenue
at
the
lake
and
bring
in
you
know
like
places
like
North
Shore.
It's
another
thing
to
drive
people
out
to
their.
You
know
they
come
out
and
I
rent
a
jet
ski.
P
They
they
rent
a
tube.
They
have
a
boat
stored
there.
They
buy
a
boat
rent,
a
jet
ski
things
like
that.
If
we're,
if
we
want
businesses
like
that
out
there,
we
need
to
drive
people
out
there
to
utilize
those
businesses.
Yes,
there's
going
to
be
some
places
that
are
better
than
others,
but
going
around
the
lake
and
trying
to
find
another
place,
that's
propped
between
a
major
d-o-t
highway
and
a
public
boat
landing.
P
It
kind
of
made
sense
for
me
and
that's
why
I
came
up
and
and
and
was
helping
Roger
with
this
I
keep
going
to
meetings
and
well.
We
met
all
last
winter
on
commercial
property
on
the
lake.
We
don't
have
the
correct
tool
for
Lake
Camp
Eska,
but
that
that
that
conversation
has
probably
going
on.
As
long
as
Bruce
has
been
on
this
board,
I
mean
the
the
there's,
never
been
the
the
correct
tool
to
to
do
it
at
at
late
camp
Eska
and
at
some
point,
I
think
either.
P
And
if
you
look
at
big
big
lakes
like
even
now
pond
sit
with
4
bars,
you
go
down
there
and
places
to
eat
and
places
for
people
to
go.
It's
it's
there.
Drawing
from
us
I
go
down
there.
Thursday
night
smokings
has
crab
and
steak,
and
it's
awesome.
You
get
to
sit
and
look
at
the
lake
and
have
a
nice
meal
and
I
get
that
North.
Shore
is
doing
that,
but
I
don't
think
inlet.
P
If,
if
we
want
to
keep
improving
our
bike
paths
and
and
and
our
roads
and
and
water
quality,
and
things
like
that,
we
have
to
drive
up
sales
tax
and
I
think
that
commercial
property
at
Lake
confessed
was
a
huge
Avenue
for
that
and
I
give
Roger
props
for
wanting
to
take
something
on
like
that
at
it,
you
know,
he's
retired
and
he's
deciding
that
he's
going
to
take
a
jump
in
a
gamble
and
get
into
some
commercial
activity.
I
think
it's
a
pretty
good
deal
thanks.
A
Well,
we're
getting
near
to
being
done
with
our
lakum
Pesce
master
plan,
which
will
have
some
sony
recommendations
in
it,
and
once
we
get
that,
then
we
can
move
back
into
that
mode
of
implementing
some
sort
of
a
change.
But
it's
not
going
to
be
quick
and
a
uniform
change
is
going
to
be
slow
in
coming.
I
could
see
possibly
putting
a
condition
and
Matt
correct
me
if
I'm
out
of
line
saying
this,
but
you
could
you
put
a
condition
on
the
zoning
ordinance.
A
P
More
comment
I'd
like
to
make
is,
you
know
the
North
Shore
slash,
lunker's
land
was
for
sale.
He
came
up
at
the
courthouse
steps.
Anyone
could
buy
that
it
was
a
c3
property.
Somebody
could
have
bought
that
and
put
a
truck
stop
in
there.
They
didn't,
but
you
have
to
understand
that
we
have
that
there.
It
is
half
a
mile
down
from
this
exact
piece
of
land.
There
c3
right
there.
P
They
have
the
there
right
next
to
a
house
and
have
more
parking
than
Roger
could
ever
fit
on
his
property
I
mean
for
apples
for
apples,
this
property
in
that
property.
This
actually
has
a
bigger
buffer.
It
has
a
rolled
all
the
way
around
it
on
each
side
compared
to
the
c3
property
we
currently
have
at
the
lake.
K
A
The
community
has
said
they
want
this
sort
of
thing
we've.
You
know
seen
that
in
multiple
community
meetings
through
our
visioning
process
back
in
2012,
when
we
did
the
h2o
20
and
also
during
our
Pesce
Master
Plan
process,
people
want
more
activity
at
the
lake
and
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
done
in
a
way
that
protects
the
existing
uses.
A
Fortunately,
all
of
the
residential
lots
adjacent
and
across
the
street
from
this
property
are
very
deep
and
some
of
those
lots
at
Lake,
Camp
Eska,
are
not,
but
the
ones
in
this
general
vicinity
are
pretty
deep,
so
they
they
have.
The
ability
to
you
know
separate
themselves,
physically
from
a
change
of
use.
F
A
comment
I
would
encourage
I
guess,
obviously
anyone
but
colleagues
up
here
in
the
council
to
to
watch
the
video
or
the
discussion
of
the
what
may
23rd
or
whatever
that
count
that
Planning
Commission
meeting
day
was
a
very
good
discussion.
That
way
too
laid
out
some
of
the
issues
very
clearly
that
were
being
discussed
so
I
would
encourage
members
of
this
board
to
take
a
look
at
that
video
Thank.
A
A
A
Right
anything
else,
all
right,
we'll
move
on
then
item
number
7
is
approval
of
resolution
number
19
23
for
the
plat
of
Calvin
industrial
park.
First,
addition
to
the
city
of
Watertown
in
the
county
of
Cottington
now
look
for
a
motion
and
second
for
approval
by
l'olam
second
by
ville
Hauer,
and
if
we
please
describe
this
for
us.
L
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
members
of
council.
The
Watertown
Development
Company
is
the
proprietor
of
this
particular
plat.
They
have
submitted
a
plat
of
the
Calvin
industrial
park
first
edition,
which
followed
their
preliminary
plan,
which
was
previously
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
at
the
May
9th
meeting.
The
plat
of
Calvin
industrial
park
will
create
three
conforming
Lots
designated
as
i1
light
industrial,
which
was
recommended
for
approval
by
the
Planning
Commission
at
the
May
23rd
meeting
a
development
agreement
is
pending.
We
do
need
to
finalize
that
before
we
can
actually
file
this
plat.
L
We
need
to
have
the
development
agreement
in
hand
or
the
public
improvements
have
to
be
constructed
prior
to
filing
the
plat,
so
that
would
have
to
be
a
condition
of
the
motion
that
the
development
agreement
is
executed
before
the
filing
of
the
plat.
If
you
so
choose
to
approve
the
plat
this
evening,.
L
A
R
A
Opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay,
motion
carries
item
number
9
is
approval
of
resolution
number
19,
24,
contingency
transfer,
general
and
Capital
Improvement
funds
and
I
look
for
a
motion,
second,
for
approval,
move
by
Albertsons,
second
by
Roby
and
Kristen
I'll.
Let
you
explain
this
to
us:
Thank
You.
D
D
The
second
item,
though,
is
part
of
the
HVAC
bid
that
we
actually
approved
at
the
last
one,
and
there
was
a
discussion
about:
do
we
do
a
contingency
or
a
budget
supplement,
and
so
this
is
the
contingency
transfer
in
front
of
you
with
the
approval
of
this
resolution
to
take
from
the
$300,000
contingency.
We
would
have
a
remaining
balance
for
the
year
of
250
1500
if
this
is
approved.
D
So
if
you
do
have
specific
questions
in
regards
to
the
ambulance
repair
I'm
in
support
of
doing
the
contingency
transfer,
it
was
a
very
large
expense
to
one
of
the
pieces
of
equipment.
It's
one
of
the
things
where
each
department
has
a
certain
amount
of
money
set
aside
for
equipment,
repair
maintenance,
but
sometimes
they're
a
little
bit
bigger
than
planned.
So
thank
you
all.
S
A
Other
questions
or
comments.
Alright,
I'll
look
for
action.
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
I
was
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay,
motion
carries
item
number
10
is
approval
of
variance
from
ordinance
section.
Twenty
four
point:
zero
six
102
allow
lowest
floor
elevations
to
be
less
than
two
feet
above
the
normal
ground.
Water,
elevation
and
I
will
look
for
a
motion
second
to
approve
this
variance
and
then
we're
going
to
talk
about
it.
K
A
L
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
so
before
the
council
this
evening
is
a
potential
variance
approval
from
a
section
of
chapter
24,
subdivision
regulations
in
in
chapter
24,
city
code.
This
is
a
this
is
a
stipulation
or
regulation
that
outlines
the
lowest
floor,
elevation
at
which
it
can
be
constructed
in
relation
to
the
ground.
L
Water
elevation,
the
the
applicant
that
submitted
a
building
permit
for
a
single-family
residence
up
in
the
northeast
part
of
town
and
the
Prairie
View
subdivision
was
not
able
to
meet
the
2
foot
above
ground
water
stipulation
and
is
seeking
a
variance,
I
believe
it's
4
or
6
inches
to
be
a
foot
and
a
half
above
the
ground
with
the
current
ground.
Water
elevation.
That's
been
monitored
out
there
over
the
past
week.
L
L
Obviously,
Watertown
has
a
lot
of
groundwater
presence
throughout
a
lot
of
our
subdivisions,
and
our
residential
housing
in
particular,
has
to
deal
with
the
sump
pumps
running
and
the
sump
pumps
to
protect
their
their
below
ground
surface
elevations
in
their
houses.
Their
basements
through
finished
basements
I
believe
that
the
intent
behind
this
regulation
was
to
help
try
to
minimize
the
necessity
for
sump
pumps
to
have
to
continually
protect
individual
property
owners
structures
from
being
inundated
with
groundwater.
L
I
think
that
the
logic
behind
it
is
that
if
you
put
that
lowest
finished
floor,
elevation,
two
foot
above
that
groundwater
table
and
most
sump
pumps
or
anywhere
from
18
to
24
inches
in
depth
and
theory,
you
wouldn't
have
a
sump
pump
running
very
frequently,
except
for
in
high
groundwater
conditions.
So
I
think
that
it's
from
a
common-sense
standpoint,
a
practical
standpoint
on
trying
to
minimize
the
amount
of
sump
pump
activity
throughout
the
community
I
can
only
speculate.
That's
why
this
regulation
is
in
place
from
that
perspective.
L
I
agree
completely
with
with
the
mindset
behind
that
regulation,
but
before
traveling
down
any
more
conceptual
thoughts
here
of
the
larger
picture
behind
this
regulation,
I'd
certainly
entertain
any
questions.
The
applicant
mr.
Heilmann
is
here
this
evening.
If
we
have
any
questions
for
him
related
to
this
particular
lot,
and
we
can
talk
through
this
a
little
bit
further
with
the
council
before.
A
L
L
L
L
You'll
see
some
neighborhoods
that
have
continual
at
pomping
and
you'll,
see
that
the
asphalt
adjacent
to
the
curb
and
gutter
has
began
to
Ravel
over
the
years
because
of
that
constant
presence
of
water.
So
you
do
have
issues
like
that
also
tend
to
migrate
and
cause
public
infrastructure
damage
as
well.
So
that's
some
of
the
some
of
the
thoughts
and
ideas
behind
the
logic
here
on
why
this
regulations
in
our
in
our
books
and
I
know
it
took
a
long
time
to
answer
that
question
man
I'm
here,
but
I,
hope,
I
answered
it
effectively.
That's.
M
A
couple
questions
you
said
that
this
particular
lot
was
not
able
to
achieve
the
2
foot
requirement.
How
is
it
not
able
to
achieve
that,
and
the
second
thing
is,
is
do
we
know,
or
do
we
have
an
understanding
that,
if
whatever
the
normal
groundwater
height
is
how
much
variation
do
we
get
in
that,
does
it?
If
this
is
normal,
does
it
go
up?
3
inches
they'll
go
up,
6
inches.
M
L
Absolutely
to
that
first
question:
councilman
Danforth,
in
all
credit
to
the
applicant
mr.
Heilmann
I'm,
not
certain
I,
don't
believe
it's
my
understanding
that
this
regulation
hasn't
been
uniformly
applied.
Mr.
Heilmann
is
custom
to
building
his
homes
with
the
foundation
above
the
groundwater,
but
not
necessarily
with
the
lowest
floor
two
feet
above
the
groundwater.
He
has
proceeded
with
a
land
transaction
for
this
particular
lot.
A
Like
to
say,
if
you
go
to
Menards
or
a
home
supply
store
and
buy
a
sump
kit
off
the
shelf,
it's
probably
2
feet,
30
inches
or
3
feet
deep
normally,
and
if
you
put
the
pump
at
the
bottom
of
that,
and
then
you
have
ground
water
at
18,
inches
it'll
be
pumping
continuously.
So
that's
an
issue
for
the
future
homeowners
that
they'll
have
a
continuously,
possibly
continuously
running,
sump
pump.
It's
an
issue
for
the
neighbors.
A
Sometimes
we
we
don't
deal
with
the
issues
between
neighbors,
how
those
are
several
issues
that
don't
involve
the
city,
but
people
do
come
to
us
and
ask
for
help
their
neighbors
sump
is
constantly
flowing
into
their
yard
and
into
their
foundation
and
into
their
basement
and
can't
we
do
something
about
it
and
we
do
get
those
kind
of
complaints
regularly
this
year,
it's
off
the
charts
because
the
groundwater
level
is
higher,
but
in
this
particular
neighborhood
the
groundwater
is
always
higher
and
I.
I
think
that.
A
Two
feet
deep
for
groundwater:
that
would
be
extremely
shallow.
The
groundwater
is
probably
more
than
two
feet
deep,
but
they're
if
they're
not
doing
a
slab
home
if
they're
putting
in
any
kind
of
a
basement
at
all,
it's
it's
going
to
be
close
to
the
groundwater
level.
So
do
we
want
constantly
pumped
water?
We
know
that's
what
we're
inviting
if
we
are,
unless
they
do
a
custom
designed
sump
there
will
be
water
in
it
pretty
much
at
all
times.
A
A
typical
sump
is
18
inches
diameter
or
24
inches
in
diameter,
but
you
could
probably
get
one
that's
30
inches
in
diameter
or
maybe
do
a
custom.
One
you
can
always
do
a
custom
sum
if
they
wanted
to
do
that.
You
don't
have
to
buy
one
off
the
shelf,
but
those
are
some
things
to
consider
if
we're
starting
and
I
have
asked
the
staff
from
the
moment
that
I
became
mayor
and
I
ran
on
the
platform
that
all
of
the
ordinances
will
be
enforced
and
they
have
been
I
haven't
authorized.
Anyone
to.
A
Administrative
Lee
grant
variances
because
very
doesn't
need
to
be
there's
a
process
for
that.
In
this
case,
for
our
subdivision,
ordinance,
the
council
or
the
Planning
Commission
can
issue
a
variance,
and
in
this
case
where
the
question
was
asked,
the
next
meeting
was
a
council
meeting.
So
the
council
is
considering
a
variance
to
the
subdivision
ordinance.
This
will
be
the
first
subdivision,
variance
I,
think
that
has
ever
been
requested
they've.
They
have
been,
maybe
in
the
past,
without
knowledge,
I,
don't
know,
the
developer
said
he's
put
a
lot
of
these
in
with
you
know.
A
Well,
we
know
that
we,
we
have
people
that
pump
24
hours
seven
days
a
week,
some
cases
year-round
and
they
have
saturated
yards
or
there's
moss
growing
in
the
gutter
and
there's
water
on
the
pavement.
Those
are
the
reasons
you
wouldn't
want
to
give
a
variance,
but
those
are
the
issues
Councilwoman
manty
well.
Q
U
My
first
argument
would
be
that
this
has
been
on
the
ordinance
for
forever
and
we've
never
enforced
it
until
this
spring.
No
any
other
time,
I've
always
did
I've
always
had
an
inspector
come
up.
We
dug
the
base
and
we
had
to
have
the
footings
out
of
the
water.
We
could
not
have
him
in
the
water
and
that's
how
we've
done
it.
I've
been
here
for
30
years
now.
This
comes
along
the
spring
and
you
know
in
the
worst
year,
ever
as
far
as
water
level,
height
I,
drilled
the
hole
in
this
lot.
U
A
week
ago
today
and
the
water
has
went
down
ten
inches
in
a
week,
so
asking
what
the
water
level
does
every
house
I'd
built
in
that
neighborhood
the
footings
were
not
in
the
water
when
I
built
it
I
mean
everybody's
pumping
water.
It's
not
just
this
community
or
that
area.
I
mean
it's.
It's
everywhere
in
town,
I
mean
I,
got
people
that
haven't
put
water
since
97
pumping
water,
so
that
that's
what
brought
on
is
it
or
is?
U
Why
are
we
enforcing
it
now
that
we
didn't
before,
and
the
house
and
I'm
building
there
I've
already
redesigned
it
and
we're
gonna
do
a
six-foot
wall
instead,
an
eight-foot
wall
I'm
that
six
inches
makes
a
big
difference
in
the
in
the
steepness
of
the
driveway
going
into
the
garage
that
six
inches
means
a
lot
there.
So
you
look
at
that
lot.
Dropping
ten
inches
over
seven
days.
What's
it
going
to
be
like
in
another
another
week,
I
mean
it
will
be,
I
mean
so
on
a
dry
year.
U
Q
L
Yeah
ya
know
that's
a
great
question
and
it
kind
of
comes
back
to
councilman
Dan
for
a
second
question
earlier
that
I
didn't
touch
on
is
the
groundwater
levels
and,
and
all
they
fluctuate,
they
do
fluctuate.
I
mean
it's
obviously
fluctuate,
and
mr.
Holland's
knowledge
of
this
particular
lot
over
the
past
week
has
fluctuated
ten
inches.
It
was
ten
inches
higher
last
week
than
it
was
today.
L
So
in
the
in
the
subdivision
regulations,
the
section
that
this
is
under
is
housed
in
actually
the
street
design
section
of
the
sub
rigs
and
what
we're
designing
our
streets.
We
obviously
don't
want
the
subgrade
that
in
the
base
course
part
of
our
street
sections
to
be
inundated
with
groundwater,
because
that
would
just
it
would
compromise
the
life
of
those
of
the
asphalt
paving
or
the
sometimes
concrete
paving.
But
in
that
section
it
refers
to
also
the
lowest
floor
of
these
structures
as
well,
and
so
in
the
preliminary
plan.
L
The
engineer
for
the
developer
is
to
indicate
on
that
preliminary
plan,
not
only
the
normal
ground
water
elevation,
but
the
lowest
proposed
finished
floor
elevation
to
be
two-foot
above
there.
Now.
Here's
where
it
comes
that
I'll
admit
it's
not
an
exact
science.
When
the
developers
engineer
creates
that
preliminary
plan,
you
know
their
ground
water
elevation
might
be
here.
Two
three.
L
Five
years
later,
when
a
home
builder
comes
on
site
to
build
a
house
that
ground
water
elevation
could
neither
be
up
here
or
it
could
be
down
here
so
I
don't
want
to
necessarily
say
it's
arbitrary.
It
Elise
does
give
us
a
starting
point
to
work
with
at
the
time
of
that
preliminary
plan,
and
it
gives
us
something
to
go
off
of
rather
than
nothing.
That
is
the
benefit
of
this
rule,
but
I
do
admit
it's
hard
to
make
it
an
exact
science.
L
Without
doing
a
lot
of
further
invest
geo,
geotechnical
investigation,
groundwater
level
monitoring
may
be
creating
different
zones
throughout
the
community,
where
we
know
what
we
would
want
to
classify
as
a
normal
ground
water
elevation.
That
would
take
a
lot
of
exploratory
work
and
some
time
to
accumulate
that
kind
of
data
to
say
if
you're
building
in
this
part
of
town,
let's
go
with
this
elevation
for
groundwater
table
over
in
this
other
region
of
town.
Maybe
it's
a
different
elevation
but
short
of
having
that
information.
Q
Because
there's
there's
parts
of
the
northwest
part
of
town
where
I
live
or
they
have
four
sump
pumps,
then
I
was
just
building
the
50s
and
they
put
them
in
after
the
fact
so
I
understand
what
we're
talking
about.
But
we
have
there's
got
to
be
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
on
it
and
I.
You
know,
I
mean
it's
one
of
those
things
that
homeowners
going
to
take
that
that
brunt
of
it
you
know
if
it
happens,
the
water
come
up,
but
this
year
it's
been
higher
than.
U
A
A
A
U
You
know
we
have
this,
and
then
we
had
an
orange
that
we
didn't.
You
know
that
we
did
nothing
with
until
this
year.
You
know
so
it's
just
it's
just
a
moving
target
and
it's
and
it's
I
mean-
and
this
is
the
only
lot
has
has
issues
I
mean,
there's
other
lots
that
that
are
gonna,
have
issues
and
have
that
issues
had
to
change
your
plan
right.
A
We
we,
you
know,
we've
got
roads
that
are
failing
because
of
the
high
ground
water
and
their
accommodations
weren't
made
in
the
road
design
for
those
conditions,
and
we
have
downstream
property
owners
that
are
really
upset
that
we're
allowing
it
because
they
have
water
running
in
their
backyard
from
their
upstream
neighbors
all
the
time.
But
ultimately
it's
a
community
decision
of
whether
we
allow
this
or
not.
There
are
reasons
that
we
would
have
this
requirement,
and
it's
it's.
A
You
know
it
shortens
the
life
span
of
the
infrastructure,
the
roads,
not
the
curb
and
gutter,
so
much
concrete
handles
it
better
than
asphalt,
but
also
you
know
for
the
homeowner
that
has
a
sump,
that's
half
full
of
water.
The
rainstorm
that
causes
that
sump
to
overflow
is
a
smaller
event.
Then
the
homeowner
that
has
the
full
volume
of
an
empty
sum.
If.
U
You
put
this
instead
of
2
foot
18
inches
above
the
high-water
mark,
there's
gonna.
There
won't
be
water
in
this
sump
basket
until
that
level
goes
up
because
the
the
the
pipe
comes
in
at
the
top
of
the
sump
pump,
not
at
the
bottom.
So
the
only
water
that
can
come
in
is
through
the
drain
tile.
So
so,
just
because
the
pit
is
a
foot
and
a
half
lower
than
the
drain
tile,
no
water
is
gonna,
go
in
there.
A
The
variance,
if
you're,
only
going
to
give
the
one
variance,
you
should
find
a
unique
situation
here.
We
do
have
a
variance
criteria
that
you'd
go
by
the
if
you're
thinking
of
giving
everybody
a
variance,
it's
time
to
change
the
rule,
if
you
think
there's
something
different
about
this
lot,
that
makes
it
unique
and-
and
it
isn't
necessarily
you're
going
to-
let
everybody
do
this
just
this
one,
because
this
Lots
special
and
unique
you
should
find
whatever
it
is
and
state
that,
for
the
record
that
you
see,
this
is
different
because
whatever
I.
M
A
M
U
We
didn't
have
all
the
rain
everything
all
the
snow
in
every
we
had.
Would
this
lot
be
an
issue
would
I
be
here?
No
because
the
ground
level
in
the
ground,
water
would
be
down,
probably
another
foot
and
a
half
who
knows
because
the
house
they
build
next
door.
I
built
I
built
a
year
ago
and
that
pump
never
ran
until
this
year.
Well,.
M
But
the
challenge
I
have-
and
I
won't
be
on
the
council
when
this
happens-
is
what
happens
when
the
next
person
comes
in.
We
don't
and
whatever
year
it
is,
could
be
a
dry
year
could
be
a
wet
year
that
comes
in
and
wants
that
variance
that
same
variance,
there's
a
cost
associated
as
well
to
to
not
happen
to
go
as
deep
either
so
it
may
be
minor.
But
there
there's.
There
are
still
reasons
why
people
may
want
that.
M
A
And
and
here's
the
thing
I
have
not
ever
authorized
the
staff
to
administrative
Lee
grant
variances
the
variances
are
to
be
granted
either
by
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
the
Planck
mission
or
the
City
Council,
and
so
that
takes
the
heat
off
of
the
staff
for
having
to
you
know,
get
pressure
from
developers
this
this
belongs
in
your
lap.
These
are
your
ordinances.
Here's
some
guidance
on
when
variances
should
be
granted
standards
for
variances.
This
comes
right
from
our
zoning
code,
in
granting
of
variance
shall
ascertain
that
the
following
criteria
are
met.
A
Variances
shall
be
granted
only
where
special
circumstances
or
conditions
fully
described
in
the
finding
of
the
board
do
not
apply
generally
in
the
district.
So
this
spot
is
different
from
everyone
else.
Variances
shall
not
be
granted
to
allow
a
use.
Well,
this
isn't
a
use
for
reasons
fully
set
forth
in
the
findings
of
the
board.
The
Afra
said
circumstances
or
conditions
are
such
that
the
strict
application
of
the
provisions
would
deprive
the
applicant
of
any
reasonable
use
of
his
land.
Mere
loss
in
value
shall
not
justify
a
variance.
A
There
must
be
a
deprivation
of
beneficial
use
of
land.
So
he
could
not
build
a
house
on
this
lot
without
this
variance,
because
this
lot
is
designed
for
a
house
and
it
can't
be
used
for
that
purpose.
Unless
you
grant
the
variance
any
variance
granted
under
the
provisions
shall
be
the
minimum
adjustment
necessary
for
reasonable
use
of
the
land
and
the
granting
of
any
variances
in
harmony
with
the
general
purposes
and
intent
of
the
title
will
not
be
injurious
to
the
neighborhood
detrimental
to
the
public
welfare
or
in
conflict
with
the
comprehensive
plan
for
development.
A
So
I
I
would
struggle
with
that.
Just
because
I
don't
think
that
there's
anything
unique
about
this
particular
lot,
I
I
can't
deny
that
the
staff
has
been
pressured
to
grant
variances
administratively
in
the
past.
I.
Don't
condone
that
and
I
don't
want
them
to
have
that
pressure.
I,
don't
think
they
like
that
pressure.
Variances
should
be
granted
by
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
the
Planning
Commission
or
the
council,
and
this
is
why
there,
the
council
writes
these
rules.
So
if
you
think
we
should
change
them,
we
can
go
through
that
process.
Councilman
Roby
did
this.
A
K
A
A
That
means
your
sump
is
partially
full
of
water
and
then,
if
there's
a
rainstorm
and
the
water
soaks
into
the
ground,
it's
got
no
capacity.
It's
going
to
come
up
in
the
basement,
so
that's
what
people
deal
with
and
I'm
sure
you've
all
had
constituents
come
talk
to
you
in
frustration.
There's
not
a
lot.
We
can
do
about
that
because
it
is
generally
an
issue
of
a
private
property
owner.
It's
not
something
we
can
fix
so.
U
U
A
U
U
Struggled
with
the
way
it
was,
it
was
enforced
prior
to
this
year,
because
it
was
never
and
I
mean
it
was
never
I
always
had
to
keep
the
footings
had
to
be
out
of
the
water
and
I
wish
I
had
pictures,
I
mean
I
can
show
you
yeah
I
could
show
you
a
hundred
houses.
I
did
that
we
went
out
at
the
water
level
yeah.
F
Heilmann,
okay,
I'm,
not
gonna,
argue
with
you.
As
far
as
I
mean
you
know
your
business
and
so
what
hit
your
opinion?
What
has
been
enforced
or
not
been
enforced?
I'm
not
going
to
be
at
that,
but
knowing
that
this
is
now
an
issue
that
we
are
gonna
be
looking
quote
more
closely
at
what
will
that
mean
to
you
when
other
developers
out
there
going
forward
I
mean
what
will
I
be
adding
a
lot
of
extra
cost
or
expense
to
a
homeowner?
I
guess
can
explain
what
what
this
means
going
forward.
U
Gonna
be
you're.
Gonna
have
subdivisions
that
you're
only
going
to
be
able
to
do
slab
on
grades.
You're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
do
basements.
You
know
like
this
year.
I
mean
the
water
levels
up,
I
mean
that's.
Why
it's
just
a
it's
a
it's!
A
floating
number
I
mean
it's
different
every
year.
It's
not
something!
That's
that
stays
constant!
You
know
if.
M
U
A
person
have
a
had
a
history
of
the
land
and
knew
the
water
level
was
at
this
point
on
a
on
a
normal
year,
and
we
go
a
foot
above
that
or
two
foot
above
that.
Well,
then,
we'd
have
something
to
base
it
off
of
now
we're
just
basing
it
off
of
how
much
rain
how
much
snow
we
had
in
the
spring.
You
know
so,
but
yeah
as
far
as
a
burden
to
the
homeowner
yeah
this
homeowner.
If
have
you
know
that
six,
it
just
means
a
lot
to
this.
U
N
N
N
K
A
A
It's
just
a
high
groundwater
level.
We've
got
issues
related
to
that
and
the
you
know
the
public
infrastructure
I
can
tell
you,
with
a
straight
face
it's
harmful
to
the
public
infrastructure
to
have
everyone
pumping
groundwater
24/7,
it's
a
different
story,
if
that's
collecting
the
water
that
seeps
into
the
ground
from
a
rain
event
and
direct,
keeps
the
foundation
dry
during
wet
periods,
but
to
have
it
constantly
taking
on
groundwater
as
another
situation
now,
you're
saying
it
won't,
at
least
today
it
won't
with
water
levels
like
they
were
ten
days
ago.
Maybe
we.
K
U
A
U
M
U
M
The
only
other
thing
I
would
mention
guy
says,
is
and
I
don't
know
how
long
it's
been.
That's
maybe
been
within
the
last
year
and
a
half
to
two
and
a
half
years,
but
up
in
the
Conrad
the
addition
upon
the
17th
Street
area
somewhere
up
in
there.
You
guys
recall
all
the
concerns
and
the
problems
that
those
people
had
with
the
sump
pumps
running
to
the
backyards,
and
it's
always
wet
and
flowing
and
going
in
there,
and
so
we
ended
up
working
out
I.
M
A
T
Just
have
a
just
a
broad
question
for
whoever
wants
to
answer
it
and
it's
not
trying
to
be
a
smart
aleck
or
anything
like
that.
But
if
we
have
a
situation
where
we're
faced
with
I
mean
I,
don't
disagree
with
everything,
because
I
can't
even
walk
to
church
without
going
through
knee-high
water,
no
I'm
just
kidding
it's
not
knee-high
but
across
that
intersection.
T
T
You
know
if
I'm,
the
guy
with
the
lot
sitting
there
saying
you
know,
I,
don't
want
to
slab
I
want
a
basement,
but
I
don't
want
water,
but
it
it
is.
I
mean
I,
think
that
this
is
a
feels
like
a
no-win
to
me
a
little
bit
in
the
sense
that
you,
like
I,
said
I'm
asking
the
question.
Just
from
the
perspective
of
how
long
are
we
going
to
go
where
people
are
gonna
open
up
the
ground
and
say
oops,
the
water
is
higher
than
it
has.
A
Well,
they
it
would
make
them
do
the
investigation
before
they
buy
the
lot
for
sure.
If
they
want
a
basement.
If
they're,
ok
with
a
slab
on
grade,
then
they're
gonna
be
fine
and
it
is
really
as
which
is
more
important.
Is
it
more
important
to
allow
individuals
to
do
whatever
they
want,
or
is
it
more
important
to
watch
out
for
the
general
good
for
the
whole
community,
because
the
future
buyers
are
probably
the
ones
dealing
with
this?
It
won't
be
mr.
A
howlman
he'll
be
done
and
gone
and
then
the
next
homeowner
you
know,
probably
have
a
brand
new
system.
It'll
be
fine
and
then
the
second
one
will
have
a
wet
basement
and
will
have
wet
yard
whenever
the
groundwater
is
high
enough
and-
and
maybe
that
will
be
periodic-
maybe
it'll
be
all
the
time
I
don't
know.
This
is
why
we
have
this
rule
and
if
you
think
it's
inappropriate,
we
can
take
it
out,
and
I
will
support
that.
A
M
Gonna
pose
this
question
to
Heath
we're
not
the
only
community
that
has
groundwater
issues,
I
mean
you
go
to
Brookings.
You
go
number
different
communities
that
you
just
got
shallow
groundwater
its
way
it
is,
and
there's
a
lot
of
places
that
it
doesn't
matter
how
wet
the
spring
or
the
fall
is
there's
just
groundwater.
There
is
the
two
foot
is
that
is
it
a
typical
dimension
or
requirement
in
in
other
areas?
That
would
see
the
types
of
groundwater
issues
that
we
have
and
I
guess.
M
L
That's
a
good
question:
councilman
Danforth,
madam
mayor
thee.
So
when
I
pull
is
that
as
a
question,
I
meant
just
for
discussion
purposes
if
we
as
a
community,
wanted
alter
that
two
feet?
Just
as
the
mayor
is
indicated,
you
know
that
is
a
governing
body
decision.
I,
wouldn't
necessarily
recommend
that
I
do
like
the
two-foot
rule,
based
on
the
issues
that
Watertown
that
I
have
observed.
Watertown
faces
in
our
neighborhoods
with
some
pomp
flows
that
continue
to
compromise
our
infrastructure,
our
street,
paving
I
think
our
streets
superintendent
could
could
attest
to
that
as
well.
L
L
Some
will
require,
what's
called
a
dig
inspection,
so
when,
when
the
basement
is
dug
before
the
foundation
is
poured,
the
building
inspectors
will
do
a
dig
inspection
with
the
comb
builder
or
the
contractor
and
observe
any
presence
of
groundwater
or
lack
thereof
and
then
move
forward.
Accordingly,
some
communities
may
stipulate
a
depth
or
height
above
ground
water
elevation
like
we
do
and
then,
after
the
matter
wrecked,
retroactively,
Lee,
I,
guess
what
some
communities
are
faced
with
if
they
don't
regulus
regulate
this
upfront.
L
What
I
have
observed
in
other
communities
is
at
the
expense
of
the
general
public.
Those
communities
have
had
to
go
on
back,
go
back
in
and
put
in
regional
dewatering
wells,
because
the
ground
water
elevation
has
become
so
intrusive
to
the
the
built
out
subdivision
and
all
the
homeowners
we're
dealing
with
so
many
issues
with
the
some
flows
that
the
city
put
in
public
infrastructure,
a
groundwater
dewatering
well
that
they
would
then
manage.
L
You
know,
become
part
of
the
storm
sewer
system,
essentially
for
the
streets
department
to
manage
that
pump,
make
sure
it
continues
to
function
and
help
draw
that
groundwater
down.
So
all
the
individual
homes.
Don't
have
to
keep
pumping
water
so
that
that
obviously
comes
in
an
expense
to
the
taxpayers
to
retroactively
Lee
go
in
with
some
infrastructure
like
that,
but
that
does
happen
in
communities
when
you
don't
look
at
it
from
a
proactive
standpoint
and
you're
coming
and
reactively
to
try
to
correct
situations.
L
I
do
know
the
city
of
Sioux
Falls
has
gone
to
the
lengths
of
requiring
sump
drain
collections
systems
and
and
their
residential
neighborhoods.
So
in
neighborhoods,
where
they
know,
there's
groundwater
presence.
There's
going
to
be
an
issue
with
some
pumping
and
the
need
for
some
pumps
flows.
They
require
a
sump
pump
collection
system
to
be
installed,
so
every
individual
lot
can
tie
into
that
sump
collection
system
and
what
that
does
is
help
alleviate
the
saturated
lawns,
the
moss
out
on
the
driveways
and
the
curb
and
gutter.
L
It
doesn't
eliminate
the
need
for
the
pumping,
but
it
does
give
a
place
for
the
flows
to
go
so.
There's
options
like
that
when
you
look
at
it
reactively
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
address
the
situation
or
when
you're
looking
at
a
proactively
to
try
to
address
the
situation
and
I
think
communities
really
do
vary
on
what
they
require
and
how
they
administer
this.
This
effect
of
groundwater,
if.
A
You
enforce
this
uniformly,
you
don't
have
ground
water
being
pumped
to
the
surface
so
because
the
sumps
are
shallower
than
the
groundwater
and
the
sumps
would
only
run
when
there's
a
rainfall
event
and
water's
coming
into
the
foundation
drains
and
I
know.
This
is
a
problem
in
Sioux
Falls.
We
we
experienced
the
problem
with
sump
pumps
discharging
to
the
sanitary
sewer
this
spring
and
we
had
everybody
on
water
rationing
at
the
lake,
because
their
sewer
system
was
not
keeping
up
and
I
saw
that
Sioux
Falls
had
that
same
situation.
A
They
were
begging
people
to
remove
their
self
discharge
pipes
from
the
sanitary
sewer
because
they
were
having
capacity
problems
in
the
sanitary
sewer.
You
would
not
have
those
problems
if
you
followed
the
24
inch
rule
and-
and
so
it's
really
we
it's
a
public
infrastructure-
private
benefit
issue.
Yes,
he
as
a
somebody.
H
Who
lives
on
a
street
that
pumps
all
the
time
there's
somebody
who's
wiped
out
on
the
moss
in
the
gutter
and
who's?
Had
it
passed
on
to
me
and
I
pass
it
on
to
somebody
else,
I
would
have
welcomed
a
collection
and
I
would
welcome
the
assessment
to
get
that
done,
because
I've
watched
the
street
erode.
As
I
said,
well-known
people
have
fallen
down
and
footed
myself
that
the
problem
is
not
gonna
go
away.
H
Second,
point
I'm
gonna
make
is
I,
don't
know
how
this
is
gonna
come
out
here,
but
why
do
we
develop
on
all
this
land?
That's
so
wet!
Well,
that's
water
town!
Maybe
we
can't
avoid
that's.
That's
our
area,
but
maybe
we
maybe
I,
don't
know.
Brookings
is
I,
think
limiting
development
in
some
areas,
because
it's
just
too
tired
what
to
develop,
but
we
seem
to
do
all
our
development
on
wetlands.
Is
that
just
we're
never
going
to
get
away
from
that
and
any
advice
on
that.
L
L
A
Written
into
our
ordinance,
it's
just
extraordinarily
hard
for
us
to
tell
the
developer.
We
don't
think
the
land
you
own
is
appropriate
for
this
type
of
development.
I
can't
even
picture
us
doing
that
unless
it's
a
you
know
designated
wetland,
there's
something
like
that,
but
in
this
part
of
the
country,
where
we
have
tornadoes,
people
have
a
sense
that
they
must
have
a
basement.
A
Q
L
Madam
mayor,
yes,
if
I
could
follow
up
on
that
just
to
try
to
bring
this
particular
case,
maybe
to
a
close
Dale.
Do
you
know
in
I
apologize?
We
haven't
been
able
to
talk
yet
today
on
this,
since
the
ground,
water
elevation
did
drop
quite
a
bit
over
the
last
week,
but
do
you
know
that
six
inches,
what
kind
of
an
effect
that
has
on
the
driveway
slope
or
otherwise,
what
effect
it
has
on
the
structure
or
relation
to
the
other
structures
in
the
neighborhood.
U
U
Didn't
I
didn't
shoot
foundation
nights
about
all
of
18
inches
higher,
so
the
house
I,
built
a
year
ago,
is
eighteen
to
two
feet.
Two
feet
lower
than
this
house
is
gonna,
be
in
that
house
had
no
water
and
until
the
water
level
went
up
now,
so
we
go
back
to
the
normal
water
level.
What's
what's
normal,
that's
in
the
ordinance
so
and.
U
L
L
F
A
U
U
A
V
U
They
are
the
one
next
door.
The
one
I
did
last
his
his
ain't
running
very
much
at
all,
but
the
ones
we
did
five
years
ago,
they're
pumping
more
just
because
the
ground
level,
as
the
water
level
has
come
up
like
I
said
before
we
mean
when
we
dug
them,
the
footings
weren't
buried
in
water.
It
was
just
the
water
level
has
come
up.
You
know.
U
U
That's
the
biggest
issue
and,
like
I
said
I've
already
changed
the
height
of
the
exterior
walls.
The
the
foundation
walls
is
six
foot
instead
of
eight,
so
we're
doing
what's
called
a
raised,
ranch
I've
already
adjusted
for
that
already.
So
his
house
is
going
to
look
a
little
bit
out
of
place
in
the
neighborhood
the
way
it
is
by
doing
that,
but
I
think.
But
he's
he's.
Ok
with
that
I'm.
V
U
U
M
I
also
have
seen
the
issues
and
heard
a
lot
of
complaints
from
people
that
that
have
had
these
sump
pump
issues
and
I'm
not
sure
how
I
want
to
answer
to
them.
But
really
the
last
thing
is,
is
how
do
we
answer
to
the
next
person?
I
would
really
struggle
with
that
I
think
we
either
need
to
change
the
rule
or
we
have
to
abide
by
it
because
I
don't
see
anything
I
think
if
we
get
into
it
and
say
that
house
design
is
a
special
in
justifiable
scenario.
We're
really
in
trouble.
M
T
L
Thank
you
for
that,
Councilwoman
Manthey.
What
what
I
was
alluding
to
was
just
trying
to
grasp
how
the
effect
has
helped
him
or
aided
him
and
accomplishing
what
he's
trying
to
do.
You
know
realizing
that
it's
drop
ten
inches
I
was
wondering
trying
to
get
at
is
whether
he
can
now
accomplish
what
it
was.
He
was
trying
to
do,
while
maybe
not
being
exactly
how
he
had
laid
it
out
or
wanted
to
see
it
laid
out.
Maybe
it's
a
lot
closer
now
than
where
we
were
a
week
ago.
T
U
C
U
My
in
my
my
father
comment
would
be
just
basically
that
that
we
haven't
and
forced
this
and
I
haven't
heard
of
it
until
this
year.
That's
one
of
my
defenses
and
it's
a
wet
here
and
now
this
comes
upon
us
and
I.
Just
I
mean
that's
my
my
biggest
stepping
stone
right
there.
If,
if
I
was
doing
this
for
the
last
30
years,
I
would
have
went
to
that
homeowner
said:
hey
I
probably
wouldn't
buy
that
lot.
It's
it's!
It's
pretty
wet
you're,
probably
going
to
end
up
with
a
with
a
driveway
steeper.
T
A
C
N
M
D
M
F
D
B
Q
A
Right
for
the
record,
councilman
l'olam
had
to
leave
I'd
item
number
11
his
authorization
to
adjust
Kirk
Alice's
pay
upon
his
promotion
to
police
captain
to
grade
7
step
7
an
exception
to
section
11
point:
zero
9
of
the
personnel
policy
pay
upon
promotion,
I'll,
look
for
a
motion,
second,
for
approval,
move
by
Manties.
Second,
by
Bueller
and
I
see
it.
We
have
police
chief,
Lee
McPhee
here
to
explain
this.
Yes,.
E
Thank
You
mayor,
luckily
in
my
position,
I
haven't
had
to
appointed
captain
quite
a
while,
and
now
they
had
two
retirements
I've
had
to
make
two
promotions.
So
in
the
process
I
found
out
that
our
city's
policy
kind
of
contradicts
itself
just
a
little
bit.
If
you
look
at
section
1106
that
says
a
new
employee
in
an
exempt
position,
which
the
captain
is
should
ordinarily
be
compensated,
a
rate
of
a
pay
between
a
minimum
of
step,
1
and
7.
E
So
I
took
that
to
mean
that
I
could
assign
that
captain
somewhere
between
step,
1
and
7.
When
I
conferred
with
Matt
and
Krysten.
They
both
said
that
it's
for
a
new
employee,
so
I
could
hire
a
new
player
that
hasn't
worked
for
the
city
for
the
last
15
years
in
payments,
Thep
7,
but
because
these
guys
have
worked
me
for
15
years,
one
of
them
I
can't
put
it
a
step.
E
7,
it's
a
three
and
a
half
percent
increase
according
to
a
different
section
which
says:
1109
pay
upon
promotion,
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
I.
Don't
think
that
is
the
true
intent
to
that
ordinance.
I,
wouldn't
think
you
know
be
able
to
pay
somebody
from
the
outside
more
then
somebody
has
put
15
years
of
their
life
work
in
the
police
department.
So
I
ask
cristen
to
put
this
on
the
agenda
for
approval.
She
said
council
can
approve
that
he
be
paid
at
step.
7
of
that
great
said,
well,
correct.
D
A
K
A
L
You,
madam
mayor,
this,
brings
us
back
to
our
our
temporary
flood
control
flood
fighting
measures
that
we
install
here
a
couple
months
back
now
already,
but
as
you
recall,
we
went
into
an
agreement
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers,
who
covered
the
expense
in
full
to
install
what
are
called
Hesco
baskets.
That's
the
the
wire
structures
filled
with
sand
that
created
those
temporary
berms
up
and
down
along
the
the
river
where
we
knew
that
they
needed
to
be
installed
where
permanent
measures
weren't
in
place.
L
In
that
agreement
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers,
it
is
the
city's
responsibility
and
at
our
expense,
to
remove
that
infrastructure.
Given
the
sheer
amount
of
labor,
that's
going
to
be
involved
with
that
I've
been
in
communications
with
mr.
Bannon,
the
street
superintendent,
their
forces
and
their
schedules
at
the
present
time.
L
Don't
fare
well
for
them
to
do
that,
work,
in-house,
I!
Think,
from
years
past
our
experience
has
been
to
contract
this
work
out
as
well,
and
so
that's
exactly
where
Rob
and
I
have
landed
to
propose
that
we
bid
this
work
out.
I
would
note
at
this
point:
I
don't
have
a
rough
estimate
and
what
that
cost
might
be
I
apologize.
L
I
did
not
get
numbers
put
together
out
of
this
meeting,
but
I
also
wanted
to
know
and
could
defer
to
Kristen,
but
this
would
qualify
for
some
of
the
reimbursements
that
we're
receiving
from
our
flood
flood
impact
reimbursements.
That
were
that
we
get
through
the
state
from
the
federal
level
down
channel
through
the
state,
and
you
know
I'd,
entertain
any
questions
or
discussion
on
the
matter
Rob's
here
as
well.
If
we
have
any
specific
questions
of
him
all.
F
We
have
a
sense,
Heath
or
Chris,
and
what
cuz
we're?
How
much
are
we
expended
for
flood
control
measures?
Up
to
now,
I
mean
this
can
be
a
sizable
amount.
Is
a
night
I
make
my
offer
question
is
how
much
of
that
or
what
percent
are
we
looking
at
reimbursement
from
either
state
or
federal
government
on
all
these
expenditures?
I.
D
Don't
have
the
exact
number
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
can
bring
that
to
the
next
meeting,
but
if
it
is
declared
and
I
haven't
quite
heard,
but
I
think
it
is
going
to
be
FEMA
reimburses
up
to
80%
of
the
covered
cost
that
they
agreed
to
the
thing
that's
a
little
bit
different.
Is
you
have
to
remember
that
if
the
employee
is
working
their
normal
scheduled
hours,
none
of
that
is
reimbursed
by
FEMA,
it's
only
the
overtime
cost.
L
This
was
one
of
the
questions
that
specifically
came
up
as
FEMA
requested
a
copy
of
our
agreement
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers
that
put
this
responsibility
on
us,
which
was
evidence
of
them
proof
that
were
financially
obligated
to
do
this
and
would
presumably
then
follow
up
with
reimbursement.
Accordingly,.
L
Are
we're
required
to
send
them
back
to
the
Corps
of
Engineers?
Now
am
I
understanding
what
they
do
with
them?
Is:
yes,
they
try
to
clean
them.
Prep
them
for
future
use.
I
would
suspect
that
the
condition
that
they
come
back
and
at
times
requires
them
to
get
sent
back
to
Hesco
and
completely
rebuilt
or
discard
it.
That
way,.
M
So
I
know
we
can't
live
with
these
things
forever,
but
there's
still
so
much
water
in
this
area.
What
would
happen
if
we
got
a
three
inch
rain
or
a
five
inch
rain
that
we've
seen
what
would
happen
if
it
was
upstream
from
us?
What
are
we
still
in
a
situation
where
something
like
that
type
of
event
would
create
the
need
to
Reese
and
beg
we're
aware
we
at
the
point
at
which
it's.
A
Possible
but
the
fact
that
now
we
have
thawed
ground,
that's
accepting
water,
if
it's
saturated
it
isn't,
but
for
the
most
part
water
can
soak
in
when
it
rains
now
so
it
it
would
require
a
much
more
intense
and
widespread
rainfall
event
to
create
flooding
now
than
it
did
when
we
had
snow
and
frozen
ground.
But
we
could
have
a
flood
there's
there's,
never
a
guarantee
that
we
won't.
L
F
Gotta
be
some
kind
of
timetable,
I
mean
as
far
as
expenditures
incurred
before
versus
after
some
date,
I
mean
do
we
have
a
date
out
there
yet
or
do?
Is
it
just
still
so
you're
not
aware
of
any
I
mean,
let's
say
to
Mike's
point:
we
decide
to
leave
him
set
there
for
six
months
or
a
year
or
whatever
I
mean.
There's
got
to
be
some
at
some
point
where,
where
those
will
not
be
a
reimbursable
expense
any
longer,
but
we
don't
know
what
that
that
date
is
at
this
point.
Yet
I
am.
D
A
Any
other
questions
or
comments
all
right,
I'll
look
for
action.
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
I
was
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay,
motion
carries
item
number
13
is
authorization
to
reject
the
bid
for
the
2019
miscellaneous,
concrete
improvements,
project
number
1906,
okay
notice.
This
is
negative.
This
is
reject
the
bid,
so
look
for
a
motion
to
reject
move
by
Bueller
second
by
manty
and
all
it
Heath
tell
us
about
this.
One.
Thank.
L
You,
madam
mayor
this,
this
is
a
proposal
to
reject
the
bid
for
this.
What
happened
is
here
on
May
28th,
we
received
one
bid
for
the
2019
miscellaneous,
concrete
improvements
project.
What
this
project
generally
entails
is
just
that
miscellaneous,
concrete
repairs
throughout
town
primarily
focused
on
curb
and
gutter
and
valley.
L
Gutters
we've
got
a
few
intersections
with
some
valley,
gutters
that
are
broke
up
that
aren't
conveying
flow
like
they
should
there
or
in
some
cases,
are
too
steep
and
aren't
allowing
traffic
to
traverse
through
them
very,
very
well,
and
then
the
curb
and
gutter
side
of
things
we've
got
curb.
That's
broke
up
panels
that
have
settled
creating
bird
baths
out
in
front
of
residents
and
things
of
that
nature,
preventing
sump
pump
flows
from
flowing
efficiently
down
the
curb
line.
So
we
try
to
realign
those
curb
sections
repair
them.
L
Accordingly,
that's
primarily
what
this
project
we
do.
The
budget
that
we
had
been
working
within
was
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
this
bid
came
in
at
a
hundred
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars,
now
short
of
asking
for
thirty,
more
grand
what
we
decided
to
do
and
again
in
communication
with
the
street
superintendent
in
the
engineering
office.
We
are
proposing
to
reject
this
bid
and
then
move
forward
with
a
quote
project
to
spend
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
towards
these
measures.
A
K
A
Opposed
signify
by
saying
Nate
motion
carries
item.
14
is
authorization
to
award
the
bid
for
the
park
and
rec
improvements;
project
number
1909,
Donna
kink
in
the
amount
of
three
hundred
thirty
thousand
eight
hundred
eighty
four
dollars.
Eighty
five
cents
look
for
a
motion
and
second
for
approval,
moved
by
bill
Hauer.
Second,
by
Albertson
and
Heath.
Please
tell
us
about
this
one.
Somebody.
L
L
W
G
W
W
This
is
another
shot
from
Jackson
Park
and
you
know
Jackson
Park,
that
area
it's
a
very
nice
shoreline
area.
There's
a
lot
of
recreation,
picnicking
fishing,
that
type
of
thing
we
do
have
the
accessible
fishing
pier
there.
That
has
not
been
installed
yet
this
spring
because
of
the
road
conditions.
We
came
to
some
kind
of
site
when
we
tried
to
get
in
there.
So
we've
held
off
with
that
and
this
one's
in
very
bad
shape.
Then.
W
As
you
can
see,
that's
basically
where
the
boat
ramp
parking
lot
is
located,
and
we
just
really
like
there's
a
lot
of
alligator
cracking
going
on
in
there,
and
we
would
really
like
to
see
this
repaired.
So
we
can
much
of
the
remainder
of
the
parking
areas
in
relatively
good
shape.
So
if
we
could
get
this
repaired,
I
think
we
could
hope
hold
that
curled
condition
for
some
time
to
come.
A
F
You
confuse
me
with
your
last
comment:
relative
to
the
parking
lot
by
the
boat
ramp
I
mean
I,
agree.
I
drove
I
was
out
there
last
night
that
the
road
is
in
terrible
shape
coming
in
off
South
Lake
Drive,
but
as
far
as
the
parking
lot
itself
did,
I
mean.
Are
you?
Are
we
looking
at
the
entire
parking
lot
being
know.
W
This
would
be
the
area
if
you
know
where
the
restroom
sits
out
there.
This
would
be
to
the
east
of
that
restroom,
the
Ale
that
goes
off
to
the
south,
that
is
in
relatively
good
condition,
so
we
aren't
doing
anything
there.
It's
just
right
in
that
general
area
where
the,
where
the
boat
ramp
parking
boat.
F
X
Heath
just
to
kind
of
expand
on
what
he
was
saying,
as
so,
we
are
doing
a
full
dig
out
and
a
portion
kind
of
what
he
was
describing
and
then
we're
we're
doing
an
overlay
on
the
area
that
you
saw
in
your
packet
we're
trying
to
raise
it
up
a
little
bit
to
prevent
water
from
sitting
on
there.
That's
really
the
intent
of
this
is
not
only
to
repair
what's
currently
out
there,
but
try
to
address
the
water
issues.
X
A
X
X
A
A
F
Guess,
I'll
directed
them
to
mat
at
the
next
meeting,
I
think
on
the
gen
as
I
believe
where
we
left
we're
gonna,
have
the
liquor
license
discussion
again
and
you
did
reach
out
to
current
license
holders
to
for
them
to
voluntarily
to
respond
as
far
as
what
they
they
pay
for
license.
What
kind
of
just
a
reminder
that
that's
coming
is
that
still
coming
up
in
two
weeks?
That's
double
plan.
Yes,.
F
I
think
I
thought
was
we
wanted
to
have
the
current
council
address
that
versus
a
new
council
made
up
of
three
new
members
who
aren't
aware
of
what's
going
on
with
this,
so
I
guess
assuming
it's
gonna
be
coming
before
us
and
I
guess.
My
question,
then,
is
what
kind
of
response
have
you
gotten
from
current
license
holders
as
far
as
divulging
some
information
or
providing
us
some
information
I'd.
A
Maybe
we
can
send
a
reminder:
is
there
any
other
old
business?
Hey
new
business?
We
do
have
some
new
business
absentee
voting
has
started.
That's
why
we
see
the
little
voting
booths
back
there.
It's
every
day,
Monday
through
Friday
from
8
a.m.
to
5
p.m.
here
in
City
Hall,
all
the
way
up
through
Monday
the
17th.
The
election
day
is
Tuesday
the
18th
of
June.
So
you
can
come
vote
ahead
of
time
right
up.
Til
the
day
before
the
election,
City
Hall
is
open,
8
to
5
other
old
business
or
new
business.
So.
R
A
A
A
A
Ok,
then,
we
will
be
going
into
executive
session
pursuant
to
SDC
l1
25,
in
order
to
discuss
and
consult
with
legal
counsel
on
some
economic
development
and
personnel
matters,
and
we
do
not
expect
to
take
action
upon
coming
out.
So
I
look
for
a
motion.
Second,
go
into
executive
session,
move
by
Albertsons,
second,
by
Bueller,
Oh,
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries.