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From YouTube: Public Works Finance & Safety Meeting 02 04 2019
Description
City of Watertown, SD
A
Good
afternoon
like
to
call
to
order
the
public
works,
Finance
and
Safety
Committee
meeting
of
Monday
February
4th
2019.
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
It's
our
motion
for
approval
by
Buehler.
Second,
my
bill
hard,
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed.
B
A
A
Thank
you.
Anyone
else,
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying
aye
motion
carries
item
number.
Four:
is
council
consideration
of
a
professional
services
agreement
for
services
related
to
the
development
and
hosting
of
the
city
county
geographic
information
system,
GIS
website,
with
first
district
in
the
amount
of
$4,500
I,
look
for
a
motion,
second
for
approval,
wolf
by
l'olam
and
second
by
Albertson
and
I'll.
He
thought
let
you
tell
us
about
this.
Thank.
D
D
E
F
City
Councilman,
it's
been
the
same
fee
since
the
inception,
I
believe
this
project
has
been
going
on
for
more
than
14
or
15
years.
The
fee
includes
the
cost
of
network
servers
that
we
purchased
the
various
licensing
that
we
have
to
buy
to
webhost
the
information,
the
data
it's
a
little
bit
more
complex
than
just
going
to
go,
Daddy
and
putting
together
a
website.
So
it's
it's
a
pretty
heavy
thing.
We
web
host,
approximately
13,
different
GIS
web
site
databases
across
the
upper
northeast
part
of
the
state
I,
would
encourage
you.
F
If
you
haven't
been
on
there
before
just
go
WWF
first
district
org,
you
log
you
get
there
and
there's
a
bunch
of
public
information.
If
you
call
our
office
we'll
get
you
set
up
with
a
password
and
then
there's
more
detailed
information
that
can
be
used,
but
nearly
everything
that
you
see
on
the
city's
engineering
GIS
website
that
he's
going
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
more
down
the
road
can
be
found
and
and
I
know,
Adam
I
know
you
use
it
quite
a
bit
and
I
know
Don
and
does
as
well
I've
heard.
A
Use
this
constantly
when
I'm
away
from
City
Hall
and
it's
you
know,
it's
I
share
it
with
people,
there's
a
everyone
that
tries
it
really
likes
it
and
finds
it
useful.
So
it's
a
good
deal
and
the
as
with
all
of
the
items
on
the
Public,
Works,
Finance
and
Safety
Committee
agenda.
The
approvals
are
recommendations
to
the
City
Council.
This
will
be
on
the
consent
agenda.
So
I
look
for
action.
All
that
was
in
fact
Mankey.
Oh,
she,
okay,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
A
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries
item
number.
Five
is
council
consideration
of
a
professional
services
agreement
for
services
related
to
monthly
updates,
support
and
technical
assistance
for
the
geographic
information
system,
GIS
with
first
district
in
the
amount
of
20,000
$70.
Look
for
a
motion.
Second
for
approval,
math.
E
B
D
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
This
is
the
second
of
the
two
contracts
with
first
District,
and
this
is
the
more
robust
one
that
goes
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
related
to
the
work
the
first
District
performs
and
the
data
data
management
of
our
GIS
mapping
through
the
ESRI
software
I
did
meet
brandy
and
I
both
met
with
mr.
F
A
E
D
I
make
on
the
heels
of
councilman
Bueller's
question:
the
service
is
the
first
district
provide
I.
Would
you
that
would
describe
as
being
comparable
the
city
having
their
own
GIS
specialist
on
board
and,
and
they
essentially
act
that
way
for
us.
We
have
a
need,
we
presented
to
them,
go
ahead
and
handle
it,
and
so
one
could
look
at
it.
The
perspective
of
saving
the
city
from
having
one
full-time
person
that
would
otherwise
be
performing
these
duties
is
a
GIS
specialist.
A
A
Are
posting
in
favor,
say,
nay,
motion
carries
item
number.
Six.
Is
council
consideration
of
a
resolution
of
acceptance
for
the
development
improvements
for
the
water
quality
capture
volume
pond
in
the
East
woods,
18th
edition
development
installed
on
behalf
of
the
developers,
Peggy
Hagen
and
joy
Nelson
and
there's
a
typo
agenda,
but
I'll
look
for
a
motion
and
second
for
approval,
then
we'll
discuss
it,
move
by
ville,
Hauer,
2nd
by
dam
4th.
Okay,
thanks,
Beth
Heath.
Would
you
explain
this
please?
Yes,.
D
Absolutely
so
in
the
East
woods
18th
edition,
there
is
a
drainage
pond,
a
structure
that
was
it
was
built
in
conjunction
with
the
subdivision,
improvements
in
that
neighborhood
of
the
of
the
18th
edition,
and
it
was
laid
out
in
the
development
agreement
for
that
phase
of
development
up
there
that
this
particular
pond
be
taken
over
by
the
city
upon
completion
meeting
the
design
and
specifications
for
the
drainage
structure.
It
has
been
confirmed
through
engineering
staff
that
the
the
structure
has
been
built
to
the
design
and
is
ready
for
acceptance
by
the
city.
D
This
land
was
not
transferred
to
the
city
at
the
time
of
platting,
and
so
that
is
also
part
of
the
function
here
tonight.
Not
only
are
we
accepting
the
improvements,
but
we're
also
transferring
beating
that
property
over
to
the
city
for
this
residential
drainage
feature
that
was
installed
to
support
Eastwood's
18th
edition.
Thank.
H
I
D
That's
a
very
good
question:
councilman
I
would
see
it
my
experience
and
three
three
prior
communities
that,
yes,
that
is
a
standard
for
residential
drainage,
features,
detention,
ponds,
water
quality
structures,
whatever
they
might
be,
that
they
are
taken
over
by
the
city
for
ownership
and
maintenance.
Unless-
and
this
is
a
big
caveat-
unless
there
is
a
homeowner's
association
or
some
other
type
of
configuration
that
can
manage
the
maintenance
and
operations
of
that
drainage
facility.
D
So
in
instances
like
this
for
East
was
18th,
I
would
say
it's
very
customary
for
the
city
to
take
these
types
of
facilities
over
the
reason
being,
is
it's
kind
of
difficult
to
expect
any
one
resident
up
there
or
a
group
of
residents
in
this
neighborhood
to
understand
the
importance
of
the
maintenance
efforts
that
would
have
to
go
on
this
drainage
structure?
So
it
continues
to
function
properly
for
years
on
end
and
not
adversely
impact
the
neighboring
properties
by
letting
sediment
built
up
by
not
mowing
it.
D
Say
it's
customarily.
The
inverse
of
that
is
customary
that
the
the
industrial
and
commercial
sites
are
typically
held
to
those
site
owners
so
that
the
big
conglomerates,
the
build
nationwide.
The
Home
Depot,
is
the
Menards,
the
Walmarts
they're
all
very
custom,
and
with
installing
the
attention
and
meeting
runoff
requirements
across
this
country.
Meeting
the
EPA
regulations
that
are
required
to
be
met
when
they
build
and
they're,
also
very
customary
to
retaining
that
on
their
site
or
on
a
piece
of
property
adjacent
to
their
site
that
they
would
own
and
maintain
perpetually.
B
D
Another
great
question:
how
do
I
say
this
with
I?
Don't
want
to
insinuate
that
something
was
done
wrong
here,
but
I
think
we're
taking
a
great
step
in
the
right
direction
by
taking
that
getting
us
accepted
tonight.
I
would
use
this
in
comparison
to
what
we
did
for
eight
Street
in
the
recent
past
here,
where
we
accepted
all
the
public
improvements
for
that
development
for
eighth
and
a
portion
of
26.
A
B
A
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries
item
number
7.
Is
council
consideration
to
authorize
the
mayor
to
sian
amendment
number
1
to
the
joint
powers,
maintenance
and
financial
agreement
with
the
South
Dakota
Department
of
Transportation
for
the
highway
212
phase,
one
project
number
1802,
look
for
a
motion
and
second
for
approval
moved
by
Bueller
second
by
Albertson
and
Heath
will
tell
us
about
this.
Thank.
D
You,
madam
mayor,
this,
this
item
is
specific
to
the
city's
portion
of
work
related
to
the
phase
one
highway
212
reconstruction
project
and
specifically
the
city's
portion
of
work,
is
related
to
realignment
relocation
of
a
sanitary
sewer
main
at
the
Big
Sioux
River
crossing.
The
new
structure
that
the
d-o-t
will
be
building
at
that
location
is
conflicts
with
the
current
location
of
the
sewer
main,
so
it
has
to
be
realigned
and
some
of
this
information.
The
council
is
full
well
aware
of
that.
I
give
a
general
summary
there
of
what
this
is
related
to.
D
What
we've
had
the
ability
to
do
in
the
recent
pass
and
our
discussions
with
the
d-o-t,
the
timing
of
things
was
not
looking
like.
We
could
bid
these
projects
together.
Ie
bid
the
city's
sewer
project
with
the
state's
highway
bid,
but
as
time
progressed
here
and
we
began
to
realize
the
February
bid
letting
date
which
I
believe
still
stands
to
be
February,
20th
and
then
working
with
our
consultant
infrastructure
design
group
was
doing
a
sewer
design
for
the
city.
We
realize
that
our
design
is
pretty
well
complete
and
we
pose
the
question
to
the
d-o-t.
D
Nine
hundred
nine
thousand
nine
hundred
is
what
the
d-o-t
got
back
is
an
estimate
to
include
those
light,
poles
being
powder-coated
and
I
believe
that
I
wasn't
here
for
those
initial
discussions,
but
I
believe
that
came
well
within
the
anticipated
budget
that
we
were
looking
at
to
expand
further
for
those
poles
being
epoxy-coated.
I've
talked
with
just
to
note
municipal
utilities
and
gave
them
a
heads
up
on
this
plan
as
well.
What
they
would
plan
to
do
is
stock
a
couple
of
these
epoxy-coated
type
of
fixtures
on
their
on
their
lot
so
for
replacements.
D
If
one
pole
gets
hit,
they've
got
the
ability
to
replace
it
in
the
future.
The
other
point
to
touch
on
is
that
this
amendment
also
addresses
the
testing
that
the
d-o-t
will
be
performing
on
our
trench
backfill.
This
is
a
service
at
infrastructure,
design
group,
our
consultant
they're
not
readily
prepared
or
have
the
ability
to
do
that
in-house,
so
they
would
otherwise
be
subcontracting
that
out
and
through
discussions
with
them,
we
decided
that
the
the
state's
pricing
was
more
than
fair
and
appropriate
for
that
kind
of
testing
and
that
we
would
opt
to
do
that.
D
Testing
through
them
and
their
on-site
tester,
that
will
be
there
throughout
the
construction
phase
of
the
project.
So
those
are
the
highlights
of
this
amendment
for
this
agreement
and
be
happy
to
help
answer
any
questions,
infrastructure,
design,
groups
or
as
well
this
evening,
if
we
have
questions
for
them,
are.
A
Nay,
motion
carries
item
number
8.
Is
council
consideration
to
authorize
the
mayor
to
sign
all
necessary
documents
related
to
the
professional
services
agreement
for
a
construction
administration
associated
with
the
highway
212
sanitary
sewer
replacement
project
with
infrastructure,
Design
Group
Inc
in
the
not
to
exceed
amount
of
26,000
$128?
So
look
for
a
motion,
second
for
approval
moved
by
l'olam
second
by
Bueller,
and
he
thought
you
explained
it.
Thank.
D
You,
madam
mayor
council,
this
item
is
on
the
heels
of
the
previous
item
and
rolls
that
design
contract
I
was
referencing
with
infrastructure
design
group
into
a
construction
agreement
with
them
to
oversee
the
construction
phase
of
the
work
and,
as
you
can
see,
it's
a
not
to
exceed
amount
of
26,000
128
and
they
would
provide
all
the
necessary
oversight
and
administration
of
the
contract
for
the
construction
phase
of
that
sanitary
sewer,
realignment
along
highway,
212
and
again
infrastructure
design.
Group
representatives
here
this
evening.
If
we
have
any
questions
for
them
as
well,
all.
A
It's
an
easy
group,
no
questions
all
right
thanks!
So
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
sign
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries
item
number.
Nine
is
council
consideration
of
change
order.
Number
two
for
the
wastewater
treatment
facility,
bio
solids,
dewatering
improvements,
project,
number,
17,
15,
with
Swanberg
construction
for
an
increase
of
sixteen
thousand
seven
hundred
eighty
six
dollars,
eighty
cents
I
look
for
motions
ii
for
approval,
move
by
Bueller,
second,
by
Roby
Heath.
Would
you
please
explain
this
one?
Yes,.
D
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
So
this
is
a
change
order,
number
two
or
the
wastewater
treatment
facilities.
This
is
specifically
for
the
work
related
to
the
biosolids
dewatering
improvements
and
it's
essentially
a
$16,000,
almost
$17,000
increase.
The
the
other
main
point
to
point
out
is
that
it
added
seventy
days
to
the
contract.
That
may
seem
a
little
bit
substantial,
but
we
did
walk
through
this
day
count
in
depth
with
our
consultant
HR
Green,
and
their
recommendation
was
also
to
award
the
70
additional
days
for
this
additional
work.
D
A
K
Every
hour,
it'll
go
to
a
wash
cycle
for
a
couple
of
minutes,
so
yeah
it
was
mainly
pressure,
but
also
they
D
had
to
do
a
lot
of
reprogramming
so
that
you
wouldn't
be
mixing
polymer
or
try
in
a
machine
trying
to
wash
itself
at
the
same
time
and
at
the
same
time
it
has
to
make
sure
it
starts
that
pump
before
it.
It
starts
running
and
so
yeah
I
was
a
booster
pump,
some
electrical
work
and
quite
a
bit
of
reprogramming
and
since
then
starting
about
Thursday
of
last
week,
the
process
is
working.
Okay,.
K
K
K
K
Yes,
this,
if
this
process
will
occur
seven
days
a
week,
we
have
to
anaerobic
digesters
and
each
day
we'll
be
feeding
fresh
bio
solids
to
one
to
be
going
into
the
process
and
what
would
be
decanter
you're,
pulling
biosolids
out
of
the
other
ones
that
are
treated
and
dewatering
them.
So,
instead
of
a
thick
runny
mud,
looking
substance,
they
call
it
cake
it's
about
22
to
25
percent
solids.
You
could
pick
it
up
like
pie,
dough
and
make
a
ball.
You
can't
squeeze
water
out
of
it,
but
you
could
feel
the
moisture
in
it.
Don't.
K
K
Have
been
it,
wasn't
it
just?
It
was
assumed
as
the
other
process
that
we're
in
there
they
had
sufficient
water
pressure.
I
believe
one
of
my
staff
members
mentioned
that
he
had
mentioned
that
at
some
point,
but
I
found
no
indication
of
that
many
minutes
and
the
meetings
that
were
occurred
with
the
engineer
but
I
think
it
could
have
been.
You
know
it.
G
K
I
I
You
know
I
know,
there's
certain
things.
You
can't
anticipate
right,
but
we
pay
engineering
firms
to
engineer
things
properly,
mm-hmm
and
our
hope
would
be
that
they
did
it
right
the
first
time
and
if
we
have
additional
dollars
that
we're
spending,
because
it
wasn't
done,
you
know
that
shouldn't
always
fall
on
our
plate.
We
should
be
able
to
to
hold
those
that
were
paying
to
do
that.
Job
responsible
and
that's.
My
question
here
is:
is
this
really
a
case
of
that?
Or
is
this.
D
K
No
I
think
they,
the
the
pump
was,
was
provided
by
swing
by
us.
What
swing
by
us
at
the
manufacturer
of
the
equipment
which
in
the
pump
came
from
Denmark
their
lump
sum,
was
about
ten
thousand
for
the
pump
and
the
reprogramming
and
anything
else
that
went
with
that
to
get
the
system
up
and
running
so,
but
it's
not
broken
out
separately.
I,
don't
believe.
L
Yeah,
sorry,
to
help
him
out
a
little
bit,
I,
don't
think
the
cost
itself
would
be
would
have
been
any
different
than
if
we
would
have
caught
at
the
beginning.
There
now
right
now
we're
talking
about
the
we
could
have
caught
it
and
they
could
have
constructed
it
before.
So
we
won't
have
a
contract
extension
of
70
days,
but
I
think
this
cost,
because
the
pipe
into
the
building
is
small
and
doesn't
provide
excellent
pressure.
L
I
K
Would
say
most
of
it
is
this:
this
pump
wasn't
necessary
at
that
point.
No,
no
one
to
be
necessary
at
that
point,
but
once
it
was
known,
then
it
has
to
be
turned
on
and
off
by
the
process
and
it
has
to
whenever
students
wash
cycles
and
the
polymer
mixing
involution
and
the
injection
it's
just
got
to
work
those
around
each
other
so
that
you
stood
the
pressure
and
then
and
the
volume
was
kind
of
marginal,
so
building
as
well.
So
I
think.
D
A
Impossible
to
tell
that
because
we
didn't
bid
this,
but
it's
you
know
it's
it's
sixteen
thousand
in
a
million
dollar
project.
So
it's
you
know
it's
pretty
minor
and
people
make
mistakes
every
day.
Is
this
a
giant
one?
No
I
mean
we
have
paid
something
for
a
pump
and
reap
you
know
we
would
have
had
some
costs
incurred
with
that.
G
A
A
M
M
They
provided
us
a
Beechcraft
1900,
as
many
of
you
probably
remember
from
the
Great
Lakes
days.
This
is
the
exact
same
aircraft
from
what
Great
Lakes
flew
19
passengers.
They
only
flight
a
9
C
configuration,
though,
do
their
certifications
right
now,
so
I
haven't
heard
any
word
that
they've
put
the
other
10
seats
back
in
the
aircraft.
Yet,
but
as
of
right
now,
it's
a
nine
seat,
operation,
24
weekly
round
trips,
your
average
ticket
fares
about
89
to
$109.
M
Our
choice,
one
does
not
have
any
interline
or
codeshare
agreements
with
anybody,
so
you'd
be
just
like
flying.
You'd
have
to
get
two
separate
tickets,
there's
no
baggage
agreements,
there's
no
no
online
services
that
you
could
get
provided
with
no
points
reward
systems
or
anything
like
that.
They
did
offer
$50,000
a
year
for
marketing
and
their
price
came
out
at
three
point:
five:
nine
two
million
per
year
and.
G
A
E
C
You
mentioned
our
discussed
briefly
at
the
airport
board
meeting
it
and
I
guess:
I'd
asked
you
to
do
it
here
as
well,
a
little
bit
about
the
makeup
or
the
history
of
air
choice,
one
as
far
as
size,
how
long
they've
been
around
because
I
think
that's
been
important
relative
to
what
we've
seen
in
the
recent
past.
Oh
yeah,.
M
C
M
Yeah,
they
don't
have
a
lot
of
aircraft.
You
know
these
guys
would
have
to
go
out
and
get
pilots.
You
know
recruit
pilots.
If
they
do
award
this
bid
to
air
choice,
one
they
don't
have
them
sitting
around
waiting
to
fly
these
routes.
So
that's
about
as
much
they'll
talk
about
with
their
tres
one.
Let's
say
mas
any
questions
on
this
one
go.
M
As
many
of
you
know,
boutique
has
has
been
on
us
before
they
fly
the
Pilatus,
the
pc-12,
that's
also
a
nine
eight
or
nine
C
configuration
aircraft.
Boutiques
came
a
long
ways,
though
they
they
have
thirty-two
airports.
This
they
successfully
serve
in
the
essential
air
service
market,
Shaun,
Simpson
I'm
sure
you
guys
remember
him.
He
came
out
numerous
times.
M
Does
a
great
presentation
has
a
great
company
just
unfortunate
that
that
he
hasn't
moved
up
in
aircraft
size
yet
he's
still
flying
the
ninth
seat:
eighth
and
ninth
seat
Pallotta
PSA's
and
the
king
of
350s
and
for
certain
markets?
It's
a
great
great
company,
absolutely
great!
The
the
numbers
are
outstanding,
I've
heard
of
the
cities
that
he
went
into
and
served
here's
kind
of
a
sitemap
for
those
guys
they
took
over
about
98%
of
Great
Lakes
routes
and
so
Great
Lakes.
M
Essentially
we
all
remember
the
last
of
Great
Lakes
days
and
Shaun
went
in
and
did
a
great
job
of
picking
those
cities
up,
showing
them
a
reliable
service
with
a
with
a
very
nice
aircraft
set
up
for
more
of
a
charter.
Private
charter
type
service,
when
you
get
it
under
the
120
or
the
135
regulations,
here's
a
picture
of
the
aircraft.
M
M
You
so
United
gave
them
a
full-blown
co-chair
and
that's
huge
for
boutique.
Unfortunately,
in
this
proposal,
they're
flying
to
Minneapolis
so
Minneapolis,
as
we
all
know,
is
at
delta.
Hub
united
coach
here
doesn't
do
a
whole
lot
for
us
flying
to
minneapolis.
So,
unfortunately,
this
was
not
a
they
don't
have
a
delta
co-chair,
or
this
would
have
looked
a
lot
more
intriguing.
But
unfortunately,
when
you
fly
to
a
delta
hub
with
a
united
co-chair,
it
doesn't
do
you
a
lot
of
good,
just
as
if
you
were
flying
to
Denver
with
a
Delta
co-chair.
M
M
M
Also
a
thirty
six
weekly
round
trips
same
options
over
here,
though
pc-12
King
here
350,
so
like
I
said
this
would
be
set
up
in
an
eight
or
a
nine
seat
configuration
so
if
you'd
want
to
go
thirty
six
times
a
week
you'd
these
are
pick
one
of
those
and
then
thirty
times
a
week
would
be
up
here.
What
I
will
say
about
air
Trice?
M
One
and
boutique
is
if
indeed
they're,
you
bring
an
eight
or
a
nine
seat
operation
into
your
city,
90
continuous
day
of
service
with
that
and
the
d-o-t
does
not
have
to
award
you
anything
bigger
than
a
nine
seat
operation
the
rest
of
your
career
with
the
d-o-t,
the
essential
air
service
program.
So
that's
something
that
I'm
very
cautious
of
with
even
hinting
towards
a
proposal
with
a
19
operation.
They
have
outstanding
service,
nothing
lacking
for
Shaun.
Simpson.
M
He's
done
an
amazing
job
with
the
company,
but
unfortunately
for
the
city
of
Watertown
and
the
airport
board's
sake.
What-What
they
chose
was
was
the
bid
that
we'll
look
at
in
the
future
here
with
Sky
West,
but
the
main
reason
they
didn't
choose.
These
guys
was
price
and
the
nine
seat
operation
with
the
nine
to
continuous
days
of
service,
and
that's
why
both
of
these
bids
got
tossed
out
any
questions
on
that
councilman.
N
What
happens
if
the
scenario
would
be
different
and
you
have
the
50
passenger
plane
in
here
already
and
that
airplane
is
going
to
the
west
and
a
Bowtique?
Could
they
come
in
then
and
say?
Well,
we'll
you
know
you
guys,
take
them
west
and
we'll
go
east
then.
Would
it
still
be
the
same
situation
with
the
Department
of
Transportation,
where
you're
dealing
with
ninety
days-
and
you
know
what
I'm
asking
yes.
M
It'll
be
either
one
or
the
other
with
the
central
air
service,
and
if
another
carrier
came
in
here
at
risk,
essential
air
service
would
just
go
away
because
there's
obviously
a
strong
enough
market
to
support
an
airline
without
government
subsidy
that
the
government
would
pull
their
money
and
put
it
somewhere
else.
Now.
M
The
same
carrier
could
go
both
ways,
for
instance,
if
if
boutique
would
want
to
fly
to
Minneapolis
and
also
fly
to
Denver
at
risk,
they
could
do
that,
but
two
different
carriers
yeah
and
that
gets
a
little
tricky
as
well,
because
if
the
at
risk
flying
becomes
more
profitable
than
the
central
air
service
route,
obviously
the
d-o-t
is
going
to
say.
You
only
need
one
hub
service,
so
you're
we're
going
to
take
your
essential
air
service
away
and
go
at
risk
at.
A
M
M
Yeah
absolutely
cool,
see
in
this
bid
here.
I'll
just
show
you,
for
instance,
on
this
one.
If
he
has
it
in
here,
I
know
our
choice.
Won't
have
it
so
you
see
here.
Conversation
per
passenger
$218,
plus
the
80
to
100
dollars
per
seat
is
what
that
means.
So
this
is
the
this.
Is
the
government
subsidy
dollar
per
passenger
they're
gonna
get
paid
on
top
of
what
they
want
to
charge
for
a
ticket
price
and
that's
how
they
come
to
these
numbers
so
makes
sense.
So.
M
I
I
M
The
last
one
or
the
second-to-last
I
should
say
this
is
a
key
lime.
Ere
they
are
out
of
Denver.
They
fly
two
routes
right
now
in
Wyoming,
Sheridan
and
Riverton.
Is
there
only
two
routes?
They
are
not
essential
air
service,
they
are
getting
paid
by
the
state
of
Wyoming
for
those
routes.
So
this
is
not
an
essential
air
service
company.
Currently
they
they've
never
won
an
essential
air
service
contract,
and
nor
do
they
fly
any
essential
air
service
routes.
M
So
these
guys
started
22
years
ago
roughly
and
they
flew
a
lot
of
private
charter.
Ncaa,
basketball
teams,
oil
companies,
movie
clients
movie
the
movie
and
entertainment
industry,
and
now
they
do
have
the
Sheridan
riverton
routes
that
they
also
fly
in
a
this
is
a
30
seat,
Dorney
air
328
jet
pretty
neat-looking
jet.
Actually
they
would
be.
This
is
also
contingent
on
peer,
so
this
30
seat
aircraft
would
be
shared
with
peer.
That's
one
of
the
hang-ups
with
this
bid.
They
do
offer
$20,000
a
year
minimum
for
for
marketing
as
well.
M
And
here
is
their
route
structure,
so
essentially
it
would,
it
would
start
in
Watertown
it
would
go
to
Pier
and
then
on
to
Denver
and
then
in
the
afternoon
these
guys
only
have
one
aircraft
designated
to
this
route.
So
we
would
get
a
direct
flight
from
Denver
to
Pier
and
then
it
would
go
back
from
Pier
to
Denver
and
then
it
would
turn
around
it
would
come
down.
Verta
I
mean
it
would
go
back
from
Watertown
to
Denver
in
the
afternoon.
So
we
would.
Each
have
our
own
designated
afternoon.
M
Turn
essentially
is
what
that
means,
and
then
once
it
made
it
back
to
Denver.
It
would
all
then
turn
and
go
to
pier
and
then
pier
to
Watertown
at
night
to
overnight
here.
So
essentially,
a
Key
Lime
mayor
and
Skywest.
Both
did
this
in
their
proposal.
They
both
gave
us
an
afternoon
turn
solo
alone.
The
difference
between
sky
West
and
Key
Lime
air
is
sky.
M
West
has
designated
aircraft
that
they
will
fly
jointly
rather
than
waiting
for
this
aircraft
to
get
from
Pier
to
Denver
and
then
come
back
from
Denver
back
to
Watertown
and
go
back
to
Denver.
With
the
same
aircraft,
they
don't
have
two
aircraft
designated,
so
the
times
would
be,
and
I
did
speak
with
the
the
owner
of
this
company
as
well,
and
had
him
explain
this
to
me?
M
So
that's
why
I
know
what
they're
thinking
here
say
on
Monday
Wednesday,
Thursday
or
Monday
Wednesday
Friday,
whatever
it
is
for
one
week,
Pierre
may
get
the
early
afternoon
flight
direct
and
we
may
get
later
and
then
the
next
week,
Monday
Tuesday
or
Monday
Wednesday
Friday
we
may
get
the
early
afternoon
flight.
Does
that
make
sense?
So
one
city
is
not
getting
the
four
o'clock
departure
to
Denver
every
single
day,
so
they
do
switch
it
up
that
way
in
Sharon
and
Riverton
right
now
they
actually
do
this.
C
So
again
you
said:
there's
only
one
airline
or
what
actually
one
plane
that
would
be
providing
a
service.
So
if
that
plane
goes
down
for
some
reason,
we
got
a
problem.
Correct
for
they've
got
a
prob.
We've
got
a
problem.
Okay
and
also
I,
think
you
said
there
is
no
current
interline
agreement
or
there's
an
interline
agreement
pending
for
this
one
or
what.
M
We
have
to
go
off
of
right
now
is
to
is
what
they
bid
today.
They
told
us
in
the
bid
there's
numerous
paragraphs
in
this
bid
that
they
are
moving
towards
EMB
145
jets
50
seat
jets.
They
are
also
moving
towards
a
interline
agreement
to
co-chair
agreement
with
United
Airlines.
Unfortunately,
I
don't
want
to
take
any
of
that
into
account
right
now,
because
we've
played
that
game
before
we've
gotten
burnt
on
it.
I
want
to
know
what
you
have
today
when
we
bid,
and
if
the
d-o-t
awards
you
the
bid.
M
What
do
we
have
to
hold
you
on
and
unfortunately
none
of
that
stuff?
We
can
hold
them
on
because
they
do
not
have
it
at
the
time
of
bit,
so
they
can
promise
the
world
come
in
September
1
of
2019,
but
as
of
today,
they
don't
have
an
interline.
They
don't
have
a
coach
here,
they're
not
set
up
in
the
GDS
system
as
far
as
the
Expedia
and
the
Travelocity
is
of
the
world
and
also
they're
flying
a
30
seat
jet
that
we're
sharing
with
Pierre
Dennis.
Your
question.
C
Do
you
want
to
explain
that
little
bit?
You
know
you
look
at
that
at
the
end
or
the
required
federal
subsidy
and
you
try
to
make
sense
of
that,
and
you
know
from
the
d-o-t
standpoint
you
think
they'd
want
they
just
they
would
approve
the
lowest
one
and
that's
yeah,
but
that's
not
the
way
it
works.
I
mean
you
want
to
explain
that
a
little
bit
Todd
as.
C
M
So
the
d-o-t
takes
up,
obviously
priority
number
one
is
what
do
the
cities
recommend?
That
is
priority
one
for
them?
Priority
two
is:
do
they
meet
the
essential
air
service
guidelines?
Are
they
providing
like
service
as
far
as
like
what
we
had
the
50
sea
jet
12
weekly
round
trips
equivalents
out
to
600
seats
a
week,
so
are
they
providing
that
kind
of
service,
or
is
it
less
service
and
do
they
have
more
routes?
You
know?
Are
they
offering
for
round
trips
and
that
all
gets
played
into
a
factor?
M
M
Denver,
it
doesn't
make
sense,
and
so
they
want
you
to
fly.
Obviously,
if
you
have
a
good
United
coach
here,
they
want
you
to
fly
to
Denver
a
United
hub
to
make
sense
for
connectivity.
So
all
of
these
pieces
and
portions
they
take
together
and
put
together
in
a
pie,
but
but
I
would
say
the
top
three
are.
Is
it
like
service?
M
You
know
that
the
city
was
happy
with
prior
to
whatever
happened,
the
city's
recommendation
and
then,
of
course,
the
the
inter
line
and
co-chair
agreements,
and
then
I
would
say,
pay
comes
in
to
the
the
the
fee
comes
in
to
that,
but
you
got
to
remember
our
contract.
Currently
right
now
is
for
over
seven
million
dollars.
So
when
we
still
when
we
look
at
Sky
West
here,
it
is
actually
cheaper
and
I'm
getting
ahead
of
myself.
I'll
just
go
to
Sky
West
here
any
other
questions
with
this,
but.
M
So
sky
west
proposal,
here
sky
West,
has
been
around
since
the
early
70s,
a
very,
very
reliable,
deep
company.
They
fly
over
1500
450
departures.
This
is
a
bid
from
Sky
West
they're
gonna
be
flying
it
United
Express,
which
means.
Essentially,
this
is
a
full-blown
United
coach
air
it'll
have
a
United
tail
on
the
aircraft.
The
all
the
signage
at
the
airport
will
be
United
they'll,
be
blue,
United,
blue
behind
the
counter,
there'll
be
kiosks,
they'll
be
e,
ticketing,
they'll,
be
the
rewards
program.
M
Okay,
you
can
buy
with
Sky
mile
or
the
United
Mile,
sorry,
your
tickets
and
you
can
need
to
exchange
and
you
earn
miles
from
Watertown
to
peer
to
Denver.
They
are
also
offering
us,
like
I,
said
six
six
nonstops
and
then
six
direct
flights
a
week,
and
this
is
joint
with
Pierre.
It's
it's
contingent
on
Pierre
and
Watertown.
Both
choosing
Skywest.
M
They
do
have
the
GDS,
you
can
go
to
Expedia,
Travelocity
or
Orbitz
or
Yahoo
may
Yahoo,
Airlines
or
whatever
you
want
to
go
to
online
and
buy
tickets
from
war.
You
will
be
able
to
if
we
recommend
in
the
d-o-t
select
sky
west
you'll
be
able
to
do
that,
all
in
one
fell
swoop
and
your
luggage
and
your
tickets
all
will
go
through
and
there
will
be
no
rechecking
in
or
any
of
that
this
will
be
a
streamlined
process.
M
They
have
network
connectivity
as
kind
of
I
was
talking
about
the
the
GDS
system
that
the
global
network
they
are
flying,
a
crj200
which
is
similar
to
the
ERJ
145
that
we
had
with
with
Adi
the
difference
in
the
two
aircraft
is
the
length
and
the
width.
The
crj200
is
a
shorter
wide-body
aircraft
and
there's
two
seats
on
each
side
of
the
aircraft
and
they'll
have
250.
M
The
ERJ
145
was
an
extended
plane
narrow-body,
and
there
was
one
seat
on
the
left
hand,
side
and
two
seats
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
extended
it
out
a
little
more
legroom.
The
CRJ
is
a
little
more
cramped
for
legroom,
comparing
the
two
aircraft,
but
they
use
CR
J's
all
over
the
world
to
fly
these
kinds
of
routes.
Matter
of
fact,
sky
Skywest,
569.
M
M
M
I
I
M
A
M
A
M
The
effort
broad
recommendation
was
Skywest
due
to
a
few
reasons
due
to
the
depth
of
their
company.
How
old
they
are.
The
early
70s
they've
been
around
a
long
time.
They
have
a
lot
of
good
comments
out
on
the
on
the
internet.
I
know
the
airport
board.
Members
will
be
here
tonight,
or
some
of
them
will
be
here
tonight.
So
if
you
do
have
questions
for
them
and
what
kind
of
homework
they
did,
you
can
definitely
ask
them
tonight,
but
and
then
also
just
the
aircraft
depth.
They
have.
M
A
No
I,
don't
believe
pier
has
an
airport
board,
but
they
have
an
ad
hoc
committee
and
they
have
a
recommendation
to
their
Commission.
The
the
pier
committee
met
today
and
also
recommended
Skywest
to
their
commission,
which
will
act
on
this
tomorrow
night,
so
we
both
have
to
choose
Skywest
in
order
for
Sky
West
to
make
a
deal
with
us
through
the
d-o-t.
Yes,
Todd.
I
I
M
I
M
M
We
had
we
had
many
hapless
for
years
and
years
with
a
full-blown
co-chair
and
a
matter
of
fact,
regional
elite
fluid
from
here
to
Minneapolis,
with
a
50cc
jet
in
2011.
The
highest
employment
numbers
we
ever
hit
was
ninety
one
hundred
employments
that
would
just
be
going
to
Minneapolis
and
our
first
year
with
Denver.
We
were
over
11,000
with
knowing
their
lines,
no
co-chairs,
which
shows
me
that
I
look
at
two
factors:
there,
I
look
at
price
and
I
look
at
is
the
destination
up.
M
Obviously,
Denver
we're
probably
pulling
traffic
for
destination
up
right
and
I
won't
find
those
numbers
out
until
June.
Excuse
me,
those
numbers
will
actually
come
out
through
our
airline
consultant
meeting
hunt
puts
together
a
beautiful
spreadsheet
with
all
of
the
the
passengers
going
on
Watertown
anywhere.
M
The
problem
we
had
was,
if
they
wanted
to
fill
seats
in
in
Sioux
Falls,
they
would
raise
our
ticket
prices
up
to
four
or
five
six
hundred
dollars
same
with
Aberdeen
and
they
and
they
did
it
with
Aberdeen
as
well.
If
they
wanted
to
push
people
to
Sioux
Falls
for
empty
aircraft,
they
had,
they
would
just
raise
our
tickets.
People
would
go
to
Sioux,
Falls
and
being
stuck
in
the
middle
of
them.
We
never
got
the
other
way
they
never.
They
never
raised
ticket
prices
in
Sioux,
Falls
and
Aberdeen
to
show
people
to
Watertown.
M
Unfortunately,
people
just
lost
interest
in
paying
four
or
five
six
hundred
dollars
a
ticket
to
go
to
Minneapolis
that
they
started
driving
and
we
have
retainage
losses
that
we
can
show
you
that
we
have
on
where
we
lose
them
too.
You
know
whether
it
be
Fargo,
Aberdeen,
Minneapolis
or
Sioux
Falls
or
even
Omaha.
We
lose
them
doma
going
east
on
Delta,
so
we
do
keep
very
close
track
of
those
numbers,
but
I
would
say
the
the
number
one
priority
with
Minneapolis
was
price
and
Delta
controls
that
price
well.
I
And
if
we
I
do
recall
those
days-
and
we
constantly
had
issues
with
the
cost
coming
out
of
Watertown
in
those
days
so
I
can
understand
where,
with
the
close
proximity
of
all
three
places,
all
you're
gonna
do
is
Rob
from
Peter
to
pay
Paul
correct
at
some
point,
so
you
know
it.
It
would
certainly
appear
like
the
recommendation.
That's
being
made,
makes
sense
to
me
yeah.
M
And
you
know
it'd
be
great.
If
we
had
Denver
service
and
many
other
services,
we
had
one
going
each
way.
That's
that's
gonna
be
great.
Unfortunately,
these
are
the
bids
we
deal
with,
and
these
are
all
we
can
recommend
and
unfortunately,
fortunately
for
us,
but
unfortunately
for
the
people
who
want
to
go
to
Minneapolis.
This
is
the
bid
that
makes
most
sense
and
it
does
go
to
Denver,
but
every
airline
had
an
opportunity
to
bid
anywhere.
They
wanted
to
go
for
a
medium
or
large
size,
hub
skyways,
just
picked
Denver
sure.
C
M
So,
with
this
being
bid
as
United's
express,
their
main
hub
is
in
Chicago,
when
Michael
Isaacs
and
I,
my
counterpart
in
Pierre
and
I,
went
out
to
went
out
to
Skywest
in
December.
It
was
brought
up
that
they
may
want
to
go
to
to
Denver
one
to
Chicago
a
day,
and
so
unfortunately,
in
the
bid
you
know
they
can.
They
can
tell
us.
You
know,
however,
they
want
to
shift
it
at
that
time
and
then
what
the
actual
bid
says
is
probably
two
different
things,
but
with
all
things
considered
being
bid
as
United
Express.
M
There
is
a
great
chance
in
the
near
future.
I
would
say
you
know,
within
this
contract
period
that
they
would
look
at
something.
If
there
was
enough
demand
to
go
to
Chicago
and
leave.
You
know
a
couple
of
times
a
week,
so
I
think
that
is
coming
down
the
pipe
as
long
as
they
just
need
to
get
their
numbers
straight
and
as
far
as
showing
United,
Express
or
United
main
that,
yes,
we
are
leaking
to
the
east
and
we
need
a
route
to
the
east
and.
C
I
M
Course,
Skywest
being
a
United
Express
bid
and
right
here
is
where
this
says
this.
So
everybody
understands
what
I'm
talking
about,
but
anyway,
uniting
expresses
United
United
mean
just
a
branch
of
subsidiary,
so
when
United
jumps
in
and
plays
with
Skywest,
they
don't
want
to
get
our
passengers
there
at
9:00
in
the
morning,
because
all
the
all
United
flights
already
left
just
like
Aberdeen,
doesn't
want
to
get
all
the
delta
passengers
to
Minneapolis
at
9:00
o'clock
in
the
morning,
because
all
the
delta
fights
are
gone.
So
Aberdeen
is
a
five
o'clock
departure
5:00
a.m.
departures.
M
You
got
to
be
there
at
3:30,
3:30
thirty
of
the
morning
for
that
five
o'clock,
departure
to
get
you
to
the
hub
to
make
all
of
the
morning
push
out
and
I'm,
assuming
that's
how
it's
going
to
be
with
United
playing
with
Sky
West
is
they're
going
to
want
to
get
you
there
as
early
as
possible
and
they're
gonna
want
to
bring
you
home
after
the
last
United
flight
lands
in
Denver
possible.
So
I'm
guessing
we'll
see
between
a
five
and
a
six
o'clock
departure-
and
this
is
just
straight
off
the
cuff.
M
M
H
A
A
H
C
And
Todd
hang
on
a
second
before
we
get
off
the
airline
situation
completely.
Is
it
fair
to
say
that
as
I
understand,
whatever
the
problem
that
we've
been
having
the
last
several
months
with
CP
airlines,
that
does
not
affect
the
bonuses
that
we
qualify
for
for
the
last
two
years,
as
well
as
the
pending
possibility
of
the
funding
for
the
terminal?
Is
that
a
fair
statement
that.
M
A
A
L
L
D
D
Of
course,
we'll
have
continued
discussions
with
the
DoD
at
that
point
on
what
makes
sense
to
do
as
far
as
those
alternatives
that
were
explored,
and
you
know
amongst
the
council
being
part
of
that
decision
and
the
DoD
being
part
of
that
decision.
We'll
find
something
that
makes
sense
from
a
traffic
management
standpoint
for
that
corridor,
because
there
are
obviously
some
improvements
that
could
be
made
and
and
and
what
we're
exploring
there.
In
the
study.