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From YouTube: Public Works Finance & Safety Meeting 01 07 2019
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City of Watertown, SD: Public Works Finance & Safety Meeting
A
B
Afternoon
I
like
to
call
to
order
the
Public,
Works,
Finance
and
Safety
Committee
meeting
of
Monday
January
7th
2019.
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
Is
there
a
motion
and
second,
for
approval,
move
by
Buehler?
Second,
my
bill
Hauer
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
All
those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
item.
2
is
public
input.
If
anyone
would
like
to
speak
about
something
not
on
the
agenda,
please
feel
free
to
come
forward.
C
B
Vilho
or
a
second
by
Roby,
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries
item.
4
is
consideration
of
change
order
number
one
with
fire
asphalt,
sealers
for
the
crack
sealing
project
number
1816
for
an
extension
of
time
and
I'll
look
for
a
motion
and
second
for
approval
and
then
I'll
ask
Colin
to
describe
don't.
B
D
This
is
a
pretty
simple
change
order
right
now,
we're
just
doing
a
change
order
for
an
extension
of
time.
The
work
was
not
complete
on
this
project
due
to
several
factors,
but
the
main
one
probably
been
the
weather,
the
freeze
thaw
cycles
we
had
early
on
and
then
the
timing
towards
the
end
of
the
actual
completion
date.
So
we
are
moving
on
to
May
31st
to
allow
them
to
finish
it
in
early
spring
and
then
move
into
next
year's
project.
D
B
D
D
B
Right
any
other
questions
or
comments
all
right,
I'll
look
for
action,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries
item.
5
is
approval
of
the
street
department,
asphalt,
patching
and
pricing
policy
and
I'll
look
for
a
motion
and
second
for
approval,
and
then
we'll
have
Rob
describe
this
to
us.
We
have
a
motion
by
Albertson
a.
F
G
What
I'm
looking
to
do
here,
I've,
put
together
new
guidelines
and
repair
rates
for
asphalt
for
2019
and
moving
forward?
Well,
we
previously
had
was
outdated
and
our
pricing
was
was
not
up
to
par.
This
is
going
to
be
a
substantial
increase
which
we
will
move
in
forward
with
bill
for
everything
we
would
do
on
patching
of
contractor
trenches.
You
know
anything
that
that
when
somebody
puts
a
driveway
end
in
we
currently,
the
city
has
been
doing
for
many
years,
basically
subsidizing
the
first
six
inches
outside
the
curb
line
for
patching.
G
If
somebody
does
a
driveway.
So
when
we
do
those
patches,
it's
basically
free
of
charge
and
I
personally,
don't
think
that's
right,
but
that's
why
I'm
bringing
this
to
you
and
on
top
of
that,
these
rates
as
you'll
see
here,
we've
simplified
the
rates
per
square
foot
and
the
depth,
and
then,
if
we
have
to
do
base
course
what
it
would
be
per
square
foot,
these
rates
are
a
bit
higher
than
our
local
contractor.
G
Is
small?
This
is
basically
like
when
a
contractor
goes
out
in
the
roadway
and
has
to
dig
up
a
water
or
sewer
service
a
lot
of
times.
Those
patches
are
8
by
8
10
by
10,
we're
put
a
mat
or
the
maximum
size
that
will
deal
with
of
a
hundred
square
feet
unless
it's
say
a
narrow
trench.
That's
a
hundred
feet
long,
something
that
we
can
handle
by
hand
then
we'll
tackle
it.
But
that's
what
I
have
here
is
they
need
pre-authorization
from
me
before.
G
We
would
commit
to
doing
that,
and
also
it
shows
on
here
that
they
actually,
they
have
to
get
a
permit
from
engineering
prior
to
all
work.
This
is
this
would
be
part
of
our
street
department
policy,
as
well
as
pricing
guidelines
for
19,
but
yeah.
The
the
larger
patches
that
say
are
ten
by
twenty.
We
we
will
not
be
tackling
those
that
would
be
done
by
vendor
with
a
paving
machine.
G
H
G
And
we
could
do
something
along
those
lines,
maybe
an
average
of
some
sort.
You
know
a
lot
of
our
residential
streets
are
three
inches.
We're
just
I
put
four
as
a
minimum,
because
I
feel
is
we're
patching
it
back
in
and
we
will
put
the
twelve
inches
of
base
or
they
will
which
I've
reflected
and
the
instructions
here
or
if
we
have
to
put
it
in
it'll,
be
12
inches
of
base
and
a
four
inch
mat
minimum.
So,
but
we
could
do
that
if.
I
G
I
G
I
G
Is
very
hard
when
Lange
was
was
doing
this
type
of
work.
It
wasn't
so
bad
people
could
get
help,
but
now
the
only
company
that
does
patching
besides
us
is
donek
sand.
They
they
are
they're
extremely
expensive,
but
they're,
the
only
company
that
does
it.
We
have
had
contractors
that
have
requested
that
we
let
them
do
the
work
themselves,
but
we've
had
problems
with
that
when
we've
we've,
let
them
do
that.
We've
we've
watched
how
they've
done
the
work
and
it's
this
is.
G
I
G
It's
something
that
I,
you
know
the
city's
done
as
long
as
I
can
remember.
I
I,
don't
know
it's
a
service,
we
offer
you
know
and
the
way
it
was
before.
Prior
to
this
request
here
you
know
we
we
weren't
making
out
on
it.
We
were
losing
money,
if
anything.
So
it's
something
that
we
need
to
I
believe
revise
each
year.
Our
pricing
on
this
stay
up
with
times,
but
you
know,
if
it's
something
we
didn't
do,
would
they
be
able
to
get
it
patched?
You
know
that's
my
concern
too.
G
G
I
J
G
G
G
This
document
was
the
previous
charges.
The
way
it
was
set
up,
which
really
is
we're
simplifying
the
whole
document
and
how
we
charge.
You
know
as
far
as
per
square
foot
price,
we're
adding
cutting
in
and
the
packing
and
everything
is
included
in
that
new
cost
per
square
foot
price
it'll,
simplify
it
for
the
contractor
and
our
staff
as
well.
They
know
ahead
of
time.
It's
this
much
per
square
foot
period.
G
You
know,
and
things
have
changed
to
where
it
used
to
be
Kennywood
upstairs
with
building
services,
would
bill
up
part
of
it
and
we'd
bill
out
part
of
it
and
and
like
the
sewer
tapping
charges
I'm,
not
even
sure
why
those
were
even
even
showing
on
our
documentation,
because
all
we're
in
charge
of
is
patching
the
trench.
So
that's
the
old
document
there
which
I
brought
along.
So
you
could
look
at
it
if
you
did
have
questions,
but
it's
an
improvement.
I
guess
other.
A
Have
a
question
out
by
the
lake
had
a
couple
of
people
say
that
they
had
to
redo
their
this
this
spring
now
or
the
summer?
They
had
to
redo
their
sewer
lines
or
something
it
happened
during
the
year,
but
they
said
they
were
given
first
bids
on
what
it
was
going
to
cost
basically
and
then
the
people
that
were
said
they
were
going
to
do
it
didn't
show
up
and
they've
got
another
crew
coming
in
and
it
was
instead
of
$1,500.
It
was
forty
two
hundred
dollars.
G
Don't
know
I,
don't
know
the
the
details
on
that
I'm
assuming
you're
talking,
probably
somewhere
along,
sell
flick
drive
because
there
was
two
two
locations
over
there
that
were
not
far
apart
on
the
new
Matt,
where
contractors
had
dug
in
new
water
and
sewer
I
believe
we
did
patch
one
of
those
trenches
and
the
bigger
one
we
were
not
able
to
patch.
It
was
supposed
to
be
patched
by
a
contractor
and
they
did
come
in
and
patch
it
later
on.
G
I,
don't
know
about
the
pricing
or
anything
that
they
were
given
by
the
contractor,
because,
as
far
as
our
pricing,
you
know
it
was
clear
on
what
we
would
charge,
but
we're
we're
not
tackling
those
twenty.
That
was
a
big
one
that
that
large
one
out
there,
that
was
20
foot
by
I,
don't
know
how
big,
but
it
was
large.
So
that
would.
G
Yeah
and
matter
of
fact,
our
new
pricing
that
we
would
have
would
be
a
substantial
increase.
It
would
be
quite
expensive
as
well.
The
pricing
that
I've
established
here
was
based
on
the
local
vendors
pricing
that
they
would
charge
and
we
will
be
just
a
touch
higher
than
that,
so
we're
not
taking
work
away
from
them
as
well.
So
you
know
like
I,
say
prior
to
that
the
2011
pricing
pricing
sheet
that
we
have
here
it
really
they
didn't
cover
all
of
our
of
our
expenses.
G
Don't
think
so
I
think
they
did
with
their
staff.
They
do
have
a
smaller
crew
that
does
a
lot
of
the
patching
with
a
smaller
paver,
with
an
eight-foot,
paver
and
I
believe
their
small
crew
did
those
patches,
the
big
ones
around
the
lake,
because
we
had
towards
the
end
of
the
season.
I
think
we
had
a
half
a
dozen
of
patches
around
the
lake
that
we
did
and
there
was
a
few
big
ones
that
we
weren't
doing
they
were
doing.
G
G
You
know
you
look
at
that
roadway
out
there
and
it's
a
new
roadway
and
even
where
we
patched
our
guys
are
really
good.
I'd
put
them
up
against
anybody
as
far
as
patching
goes,
but
it's
still
handwork
and
it's
it's
hard
to
get
it
smooth
and
and
looking
good
compared
to
a
paver,
so
that
the
ride
quality
is
good.
B
I
G
The
only
time
like
that
we
would
go
outside
the
hundred
square
feet
as
if
we
did
have
a
narrow
trench
that
we
can
loot
by
hand
with
these.
These
rakes
are
like
three
foot
wide
they're,
an
aluminum
type
rake.
We
call
them
lutz,
but
if
we
did
a
trench,
it
was
100
foot
long
by
three
foot
wide.
That
you
know,
of
course,
would
be
a
lot
bigger,
but
that's
something
we
could
handle
is.
G
It's
not
from
our
standpoint
because
the
guys
before
hand
would
measure
the
depth
of
the
contractor
trench
a
lot
of
times
the
contract
I'll
prep
this
up
to
the
depth
that
we
work.
You
know
that
will
put
mix
in
and
they'll
compact
it
and
then
we'll
come
in
and
we'll
actually
put
the
mix
in
and
two
lifts
and
is.
I
G
I
J
H
G
B
B
G
In
this
case,
though,
I
had
build
it
out,
because
the
contractor
had
cut
out
two
foot
out
in
the
road.
Well,
I
did
not.
I
was
not
aware
of
the
reason
they
cut
out.
Two
foot
was
because
the
gutter
line
was
in
tough
shape,
it
was
deteriorated
and
he
went
out
as
far
as
he
needed
to
to
match
up
to
good
road
and
I
had
build
it.
I
shouldn't
have
I,
probably
should
have
called
this
contractor
and
asked
him
why?
But
I'll
show
you
a
little
drawing
of
what
we
have
here.
G
Okay,
here's
a
situation
where
we
generally
where
this
is
read,
six
inch
wide
asphalt
area.
This
is
a
kerb.
This
is
a
driveway
they
put
in
and
we
know
normally
would
come
in
and
just
patch
that
sliver
in
with
asphalt
pack
it
in
he
had
taken
out
two
here.
So
we
had
had
to
put
all
this
in
which
wasn't
a
real
big
deal,
but
his
reasoning
for
taking
all
that
out
was
good.
It
was,
it
was
I'm
glad
he
took
it
out
so
anyway,
I
build
an
error.
I
shouldn't
have
build
them
on
that.
G
F
B
The
reason
this
one
this
bill
is
coming
back
to
the
council
is
because
it's
already
been
sent
out
and
in
order
for
the
bill
to
be
retracted,
there
needs
to
be
a
council
action.
Kirsten
can't
just
take
it
back.
So
I'll
need
a
motion
and
second
to
allow
for
this,
and
it
should
be
with
the
excise
tax
included.
Then
the
revised
amount
to
write
off
would
be
seven
hundred
thirty
seven
dollars
56
cents,
so
it
for
a
motion
move
by
bill
Howard.
B
Any
further
discussion
about
this,
you
see
none
I,
look
for
action,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
there's
a
post
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
thanks.
Rob
yep
item
number:
seven
is
consideration
of
change
order
number
one
for
the
bramble
Park
Zoo
shop
project
with
lakeside
construction
for
an
increase
of
3,200
$14.67,
bringing
the
final
contract
amount
to
one
hundred;
ninety
nine
thousand,
fifty
six
dollars
and
67
cents
and
I
look
for
a
motion
second
for
approval
and
then
we'll
talk
about
it,
move
by
veal,
our
second
by
Robi,
all
right
Colin!
B
K
K
Actually,
it
results
from
an
increase
in
needed
gravel
to
get
the
building
elevation
to
the
correct
level
and
then
also
some
additional
gravel
when
the
apron
was
placed
on
the
outside
of
the
building
to
get
that
up
to
elevations
well
on
the
apron
and
then
there's
a
deduction
because
with
the
late
fall
and
early
freeze,
we
decided
to
just
go
ahead
and
complete
the
project,
but
we
are
going
to
get
a
deduction
of
$2,000
to
have
our
staff
complete
the
landscaping.
The
dirt
work.
This
spring.
K
B
B
I
C
K
F
J
J
K
B
C
B
C
I
would
just
make
a
comment
that
the
bit
the
building
or
I
didn't
me
to
jump
in
and
take
your
fire
away.
J,
but
I
said
in
the
last
Luo
Society
meeting,
and
you
know
very
complimentary-
is
already
as
far
as
what
the
efficiencies
they're
seeing
from
this
new
building
and
excited
about
what
it's
going
to
mean
for
operations
other
especially
this
time
of
the
year.
Oh
I.
K
Would
concur
with
that?
They
are
very,
very
pleased
with
the
project
and
you
know:
I
was
over
there
the
shop
today
and
it
is
a
is
a
nice
facility
that
were
able
to
do
a
you
know
not
only
vehicle
and
equipment
storage,
but
also
be
able
to
do
a
such
great
maintenance
work.
You
know,
they'll
have
their
woodworking
area,
their
welding
and
cutting
area
and
it'll
be
clean
and
efficient
and
they're,
basically
combining
about
four
different
shop
locations
into
one
now
and
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
be
a
wonderful
addition
to
the
zoo.
K
B
K
G
That'll
work
all
right,
so
we
did
have
a
12
inch
snow
event,
basically
starting
on
a
26
of
December
2018,
and
we
had
another
event
with
ice
in
between
that.
Basically,
we
were
done
with
on
one
319,
so
this
is
a
timeline
basically
of
our
operations
and
some
of
the
stuff
that
went
on
and
I'm
basically
just
wanted
to
present
to
you
guys.
G
You
know
what
what
our
crews
did
during
this
event,
how
we
handled
it,
what
got
taken
care
of
and
what
we
focused
on
first
and
foremost
just
so
you
understand,
our
focus
is
during
an
during
a
snow
event
when
it's
snowing
and
there's
wind.
Our
focus
is
always
to
keep
the
emergency
routes
open
and
we
won't
start
any
Residential's
unless
it's
an
emergency
route
until
after
the
snow
has
slowed
down
and
the
winds
have
decreased
during
this
event,
basically,
on
Wednesday
the
26th
of
December
at.
G
10:45
the
snow
started
a.m.
in
the
morning.
We
started
sanding
operations
at
about
115.
It
was
starting
to
get
slick
to
the
point
where
we
felt
it
was
needed
we
standing
around
7:00
p.m.
that
evening,
and
that
was
about
12
hours
of
staff
coverage.
Throughout
that
day,
on
Thursday
we
started
5
a.m.
we
had
a
contractor
started
at
the
lake
to
plow
the
main
roads
around
the
lake
north
and
south
Lake
Drive
33rd
Street,
Golf,
Course
Road
those
main
routes,
so
we
can
keep
traffic
flowing
into
town
from
the
lake.
G
If
there's
an
emergency,
we
we
do
some
extra
roadways
that
are
not
considered
on
the
emergency
snow
route
map.
The
lake
is
not
on
that
I'm
working
on
revising
that
and
I
will
be,
bringing
that
to
you
guys
for
approval
after
the
mayor
and
I
go
through
that
stuff.
I
do
believe.
There's
several
roadways
in
town
that
need
to
be
on
the
emergency
snow
route
map.
We
currently
do
take
care
of
the
south
bypass
Willow
Creek,
Drive
North
and
South
Lake
Drive
4th
Avenue
Golf
Course,
Road,
33rd
Street,
all
those
out
there.
G
G
We
we
try
to
get
to
those
it's
not
on
the
map,
but
we
do
attempt
to
get
to
those
places
as
often
as
we
can
just
so.
You
know
that
ahead
of
time
and
got
off
track
here,
a
little
bit,
but
anyway,
on
Thursday
at
4:00
a.m.
we
did
start
with
a
contractor
running
the
lake
just
to
hit
that
during
the
snow
event
it
was
still
snowing.
It
was
windy,
but
we
were
trying
to
keep
things
open.
G
G
G
We
had
one
guy
that
ran
a
plow
truck,
we
try
to
keep
drifts
knocked
open
and
he
reran
them
the
main
lake
road
at
5
o'clock.
One
more
time
now
we
ended
our
operations
of
plowing
highways
and
snow
routes,
the
lake
and
all
that
we
were
done
by
7:00
p.m.
that
night,
and
that
was
our
staff
worked
a
little
over
14
hours
that
day
from
when
they
came
in
till
they
went
home
on
Friday
the
winds
continued
and
we
had
gusts
up
to
38
miles
an
hour.
G
G
One
thing
I'm,
just
looking
at
here
yeah,
we
had
started
downtown
and
I'm,
not
sure
why
that's
not
showing
on
here.
Let's
see
we
had,
we
had
started
cleaning
downtown,
so
at
8
a.m.
our
motor
graders
had
moved
into
other
areas
and
we
were
still
cleaning
downtown
downtown
area
took
13
hours
during
that
12
inch
event
to
clean.
Now,
prior,
when
I
first
came
into
the
street
department,
it
took
us
13
hours
to
do
a
four
inch
event.
G
The
way
we've
changed
it,
we've
added
trucks,
contractor
trucks
contractor
loaders,
plus
we
got
a
snow
blower
now
and
we
have
our
old
snow
loader.
We
put
it
all
at
it
and
we
just
try
to
knock
it
out.
So
it's
still
it's
still
even
with
12
inches
of
snow
is
a
lot
to
handle
as
you'll
see
it,
the
old
home
snow
hole.
We
call
it
is
it's
close
to
full.
We
don't
have
much
more
capacity
left
over
there
if.
G
So
winds
did
taper
off
around
2:00
p.m.
by
4:00
p.m.
as
you'll
see
we
were
done,
cleaning
the
downtown
and
actually
yeah
I,
don't
know
what
we
missed
that
putting
our
time
frame
our
starting
time
frame
on
that,
but
anyway,
by
8:00
p.m.
that
night,
our
crews.
Basically
we
were
done
and
getting
ready
to
go
home.
G
That
was
an
18-hour
day
for
our
crews.
We,
you
know
my
concern.
There
is
when
we
have
guys
running
these
motor
graders
and
we
have
six
of
them.
18
hours
and
a
motor
grader
is
too
long.
It's
it's
dangerous.
You
know
these
motor
graders
weigh
over
40,000
pounds
you
bump
into
somebody
it's.
It
could
be
more
than
just
a
little
fender
bender.
So
that
does
concern
me
when
we're
working
such
long
hours,
Saturday
I,
want
to
see
I
can't
like
this
thing.
Saturday
we
did
start
on
Saturday.
G
You
know
we
put
out
a
PSA,
of
course
prior
to
all
that,
but
we
started.
We
did
do
avenues
and
we
finished
up
streets
because
we
didn't
get
them
done
the
night
before
by
3
p.m.
we
completed
all
the
city
roads
on
that
Saturday,
and
that
was
about
just
under
13
hours.
Our
staff
worked
that
day
that
event
from
start
to
finish,
the
first
time
we
started,
plowing
highways
and
snore
was
still
58
hours
that
we
cleared
it
all
in
and
Rob.
C
E
C
G
B
G
G
That's
in
our
policy
is
really
from
21st
Street
West
to
19th
Street
East
from
2
12
to
14.
That's
really
the
zone
that
applies
otherwise
outside
of
that
area.
We
we
do
it
differently,
we
plow
it
as
fast
as
we
can,
and
to
biess
to
be
fast.
When
we
go
up
to
River
Ridge,
it
makes
no
sense
to
do
just
streets
or
just
avenues,
so
we
clear
the
whole
thing
and
we
get
out
of
there
and
we
do
the
same
with
North
Ridge,
Eastwood's,
Dakota
Commons.
G
B
G
B
The
next
day
and
I
think
that's
remarkably
good
for
a
storm
of
that
magnitude.
It's
been
the
street
department's
policy
to
focus
during
the
event
on
the
snow
routes
and
the
emergency
routes,
the
highways
we
plow
the
highways,
even
though
the
state
maintains
the
asphalt
on
the
concrete.
We
remove
the
snow
on
all
of
the
highways,
which
is
a
relatively
new
thing.
Yeah.
G
G
Well,
we've
we've
added
to
it.
We
we've
done
highways
for
quite
a
few
years,
but
the
the
highways
we
never
used
it.
For
example,
we
never
plowed
from
Cottage
lickers
all
the
way
out
to
sailboat
landing.
The
state
did
that
now
we
do
that
and
we
pull
like
where
there's
curb
and
gutter
by
Lake
Shore
out
there.
We
pull
it
all
the
way
across
the
highway.
So
it's
not
on
a
residential
side,
just
that
alone.
G
Just
that
stretch
added
about
an
hour
to
our
snow
removal
program,
we
used
to
stop
at
the
super
8
on
south
81.
Now
we
go
all
the
way
to
the
roundabout
and
we
include
the
roundabout.
We
used
to
stop
at
TSC
on
highway
212
right
by
the
bridge,
and
now
we
go
all
the
way
to
Walmart.
So
you
know
would
they've
added
a
lot.
The
d-o-t
has,
according
to
the
d-o-t
policy,
any
city
with
a
population
of
2,500
or
more
is
responsible
for
the
highways
for
plowing
highways
within
their
city
limits.
G
Now
the
d-o-t
is
still
doing
some
of
what's
in
our
city
limits
because
east
of
wal-mart
they
they
do
that
we
do
the
service
roads,
but
they
do
the
highway
out
there.
So
that's
one
example
of
a
little
extra
that
they've
just
kept
just
I,
guess
to
be
nice
so,
but
we've
there's
been
a
lot
added.
I
mean
just
the
south
bypass
alone
adds
a
lot
of
lot
of.
B
G
You
know
the
guys,
the
staff,
the
staff,
really
we
have
a
great
staff.
You
guys
I,
can't
express
that
enough,
but
they're
dedicated
to
their
job
and
they
want
to
do
a
good
job
and
it's
it's
hard
on
the
staff
when
they
hear
and
they
get
a
feedback,
because
they're
they're
really
trying
and
take
it
personal.
And
so
we
try
hard
to
do
our
best.
G
B
I
have
asked
a
few
people
if
they'd
be
willing
to
pay
higher
taxes
in
order
to
have
more
staff
available
for
snow
removal,
and
nobody
said
no
I've
had
several
people
say
yes,
I
haven't
done
a
big
survey
or
anything
but
I
think
that's
a
question.
We
should
ask
if
people
are
demanding
better
service,
how
do
we
get
that?
You
need
more
bodies
and
more
equipment?
If,
because
you
are
taxing,
you're
pushing
your
guys
when
they're
working
14
16
hour
days,
that's.
G
And
it's
been
hard,
our
contractors
really
have
stepped
up
since
we've
been
have
it
like
this
big
event
and
stuff,
but
we're
still
lacking.
You
know
we're
we're
doing
the
main
part
of
town
with
snow
gates
with
three
snow
gates.
That's
all.
We
have
two
ways
that
I
see
to
accomplish
this:
faster,
more
manpower,
more
equipment
or
the
reduction
of
snow
gates,
just
get
rid
of
them.
G
Do
take
more
time
we
didn't
think
initially
they
did,
but
they
do
take
more
time,
but
the
biggest
thing
instead
of
a
three-man
crew,
where
you
have
a
motor
grader
running
down
the
main
driving
lane
and
then
a
plow
truck
on
the
edge
with
the
sander
blowing
it
up
over
the
curb
and
then
a
loader
that
follows
behind
that's
a
standard,
three-man
team.
The
way
it
used
to
be
once
we
added
snow
gates,
you
have
two
motor
graders.
Now
you
have
one
in
the
driving
lane.
G
You
have
one
and
actually
I'm
sorry,
Mountain
you'll
have
a
motor
grader
in
the
driving
lane.
You'll
have
a
motor
grader
on
the
edge.
Then
you
have
to
have
a
sander
truck
behind
standing
up
intersections
and
a
loader
behind,
because
the
snow
gate
like
in
this
last
12-inch
event
is
pretty
much
worthless.
G
The
snow
gate
causes
more
issues
than
anything
I
like
them
on
low
snows,
but
people
expect
them
to
work
on
high
stones.
They
do
not
work
on
high
snows
and
and
I.
Actually,
I
got
away
from
the
time
frame,
but
I
want
to
move
ahead
to
this,
to
explain
a
little
bit
about
snow
gates,
which
hopefully
will
help
everybody
understand
a
little
better.
Now,
if
you'll
see
here,
this
is
basically
a
drawing
that
shows
the
snow
gate
and
the
moldboard.
G
This
is
what
we
call
a
mould
board
on
a
motor
grader
and
the
snow
gate
this
here.
These
points
when
you
fill
that
up
with
snow
the
excess
snow
that
you're
pushing
ahead,
has
to
go
somewhere
it'll
either
go
out
the
end
over
the
top.
One
of
the
ends
are
over
the
top.
You
just
can't
carry
it
forever.
So
when
you
get
to
a
driveway
and
you
put
the
snow
gate
down,
you're
collecting
what
snow
you
can
once
that
fills
up
to
that
point,
it's
going
out
the
ends
or
it's
going
over
the
top.
G
Now,
when
it
goes
over,
the
top
of
the
moldboard
you've
completely
defeated
your
purpose
of
the
gate.
In
the
first
place.
You've,
it's
going
over
the
top
you've
defeated
the
purpose
of
plowing
the
road
you're,
putting
snow
right
back
on
the
road
which
you
just
plowed,
and
not
only
that
we've
had
our
snow
gate.
Operators
complain
that
when
they
do
put
them
down
and
it
starts
to
billow
over
the
top
a
lot
of
times,
they
lose
traction
and
they
lose
momentum
to
make
these
blades
work
with
snow
gates.
G
You
have
to
keep
your
momentum
going
as
you'll
see
and
let's
see
here
now,
here's
something
else
that
nobody
thinks
about
if
we're
removing
12
inches
of
snow
right
in
front
of
this
motor
grader,
this
first
motor
grader
just
moved
his
12
inches
of
snow
and
he
moved
it
in
front
of
the
snow
gate
machine.
Okay,
so
right
away,
you
can't
use
your
moldboard
because
we've
it
we've
had
issues
with
them
going
over
the
moldboard
without
the
snow
gate
down,
so
the
snow
gates
are
not
effective
and
I'm.
G
At
best
I'm
gonna,
say
five
inches
of
snow,
we're
finding
I
mean
at
times.
Maybe,
if
there's
no
consistencies
right,
six
inches,
maybe,
but
they
they
are
not
the
cure-all.
They
absolutely
are
not.
So
when
people
think
well,
we
only
have
four
inches
of
snow
on
the
ground.
Why
isn't
it
snow
gate
working?
Well,
you
have
this
guy's
four
inches
of
snow
too,
as
well
as
the
four
inches
you
are
plowing
Plus,
which
are
when
you
put
your
gate
down.
It's
building
up
so
and.
G
Right
and
that's
where
this
slide
will
come
into
play.
These
are
evacuation
areas
where
you
can
put
your
gate
up
and
lose
the
snow
which
this
is
kind
of
hard
to
see
this
drawing
but
you're
losing
the
snow
there.
Now,
when
you're
in
front
of
this
driveway,
you
put
the
gate
down.
Okay,
now
you
have
another
drawer,
open
area
which
you
can
put
the
gate
up
for
the
depends
on,
but
in
a
lot
of
cases
it's
a
short
time.
G
We
have
areas
at
in
town
where
you
might
have
1520
feet
between
a
driveway
like
well,
I,
can
think
of
the
trailer
trailer
court.
Bonham
10th
Avenue
is
horrible
for
that
the
snow
gate
does
not
work
there,
even
on
low
snows.
But
when
you
have
that
situation,
you
don't
have
enough
time
for
it
to
evacuate
most
of
the
moldboard
from
what
the
extra
buildup
of
the
gate
being
down.
So
then
you
get
to
the
next
driveway
you
put
it
down
and
all
of
a
sudden,
that's
starting
to
billow
over
the
board
or
out
the
end.
G
So
what
our
operator
asked
to
do
so
he
doesn't
have
to
go
back
and
plow.
The
roadway
again
is
put
the
gate
up
so
when
the
gates,
up,
of
course,
that
person's
gonna
get
snow
in
his
driveway.
Now
this
compounds
by
the
end
of
the
block
you
know
dependent
on
the
spacing
of
the
driveways
and
how
wide
the
driveways
are
and
how
much
snow
we're
plowing
by
the
end
of
the
black
you're
you're
carrying
the
whole
block
of
snow,
and
you
you,
you
can't
do
that
it
goes
over
the
top.
G
B
B
G
The
wide
driveways
are
for
the
snow
gates
are
really
they're
difficult.
The
old
driveways
that
are
narrow,
they're,
not
as
bad,
but
when
they're
close
together,
they're
bad.
We
have
to
have
a
length
of
time
or
length
of
distance
to
evacuate
what
extra
snow
the
gate
is
contained,
if
you,
if
you,
which
I
want
to
do
a
video
I,
didn't
get
to
do
it
this
last
time
around,
because
we
were
too
busy,
but
I
want
to
do
some
videos
of
in
the
cab
of
the
snow
gate.
G
B
G
To
explain
to
people
because
that's
been
most
of
our
calls
from
this
last
event.
Is
people
upset
that
we
did
not
use
the
snow
gates?
We
we,
the
guys,
use
them
when
they
can.
If
there's
a
wind
blowing
area,
where
there's
a
couple
inches
of
snow,
they
might
be
able
to
use
a
gate
there
or,
if
they're
crossing
a
very
short
distance
across
an
alley
or
across
the
narrow,
driveway.
That's
12,
15,
20,
foot
and
20
foot
might
even
be
pushing
it,
but
yeah.
I
Of
all
I
appreciate
you
doing
this,
you
know
I
had
send
the
email
with
some
of
the
concerns
that
I
had
yeah.
No,
that
were
brought
to
me
better
way,
didn't
put
that
and
and
so
I
really
liked
information
Rob
that
you're
putting
out
question
I
do
have
on
did
the
snow
gates
if
I'm,
if
I'm
using
this
Millgate,
we've
already
said
that
we
need
one
more
piece
equipment
which
is
also
one
more
man
right,
but
do
the
does
the
unit
itself
actually
go
slower
than
two?
They.
G
They
do
I
was
talking
this
morning
with
one
of
my
snow
gate,
operators
and
the
snow
gate.
How
well
that's
him
trying
to
remember
what
he
said
I
think
like
when
we
have
a
standard
event
he's
going
at
four
miles,
an
hour
running
a
snow
gate
and
the
operator
in
without
running
a
snow
gate
is
able
to
go
two
to
three
miles
an
hour
faster
I.
Don't
let
the
guys
do
that
I
make
them
stay
close
together,
because
a
lot
of
times
that
blade
in
the
driving
lane
will
go
by
and
people
think
they're
done.
G
I
I
Yeah-
and
you
know
something
calls
in
the
comments
that
have
been
made,
you
know
I,
don't
care
what
we
do.
We
can
throw
as
much
money
or
as
much
equipment
at
this.
We'll
always
have
somebody.
That's
not
happy
just
way.
It's
gonna
be
that,
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
improve
what
we're
doing
so
and
I
think.
I
But
there
is
a
complete
misunderstanding
about
mill
gates
mm-hmm
altogether
and
plus.
We
don't
have
contractors
that
have
snow
geese,
and
that
is
another
one.
That
I
have
tried
to
explain
to
people
and
it
just
doesn't
it
might
sink
in
or
it
might
work
with
that
person
or
two
and
then
you
get
another
snow
and
it's
the
same
thing
right
so
I
know
the
problem.
They're
having
in
your
description
up
here
is
helps
to
understand
how
it
builds
up
in
the
course
of
the.
B
H
G
H
G
It
sticks
it
can
it
can
damage
the
gate
if
you,
if
you
see
right
here,
actually
let
me
go
back
one.
This
is
a
little
better
to
see
if
you
have
wet
heavy
snow.
This
gate
I
mean
it's
built,
it's
solid,
but
when
you
have
several
ton
of
wet
heavy
snow
and
it's
kind
of
sticking,
it
doesn't
want
a
billow
over
the
top
is
easy.
G
A
We've
been
down
this
road
before,
but
mike
mentioned
it
with
a
different
equipment
and
the
sweeps
that
go
across
and
on
out
by
the
lake.
The
sweeps
are
four
times
going
away
from
the
mailboxes
and
into
the
driveways.
If
you
happen
to
be
gone
and
you
get
home
and
there
is
a
5-foot
drift
six
foot
wide
and
then
you
try
to
move
that
you
have
to
hire
somebody
to
come
in
and
do
it,
but
your
neighbor
across
the
street
has
a
completely
clean
driveway.
A
A
That
gets
because
when
it
rolls
in
for
times
like
this
time,
I
can
show
you
one
driveway
out
there,
where
I
still
haven't
got
mine
cleaned
off,
because
it's
so
hard,
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
hire
somebody
to
come
in
and
clean
that
out,
but
my
neighbors,
they
don't
have
a
they
don't
have
any
snow
at
all
and
I.
Don't
know
what
this
because
they're
doing
a
great
job.
A
G
It
isn't
fair
to
those
people
to
get
all
the
snow
of
the
hole
instead
of
splitting
it
there.
The
reason
that
we
have
done
that
is
because
of
the
wind
on
that
side.
If
we
leave
the
snow
on
that
side,
then
we're
gonna
have
a
lot
more
of
an
issue,
keeping
the
road
clean
so
but
you're
right.
That's
then-
and
we
have
another
issue
too-
that
I'm
addressing
at
this
time
with
cul-de-sacs
out
at
the
lake.
G
So
we're
gonna
make
a
conscious
effort
to
get
a
loader
out
there
earlier
to
work
on
those
called
the
sacks
in
a
more
timely
fashion,
but
that
goes
back
to
spread
thin
on
resources
to
do
such
as
we're
talking
about
here
in
that
area
with
the
twelve
or
fourteen
houses
and
the
call
the
sacks
it
just
the
logistics
is
is
overwhelming.
It
really
is
I
want.
B
To
add
here,
Councilwoman
manty
wasn't
able
to
come
to
the
meeting,
but
she's
watching,
and
she
texted
me
and
just
wanted
me
to
point
out
that
she
got
more.
Compliments
on
your
snow
removal
from
this
major
event.
Then
she
got
complaints
and-
and
her
feeling
was
that
people
recognized.
This
was
not
your
typical
little
snow
storm
that
we
had
a
forty
two
hour,
long,
twelve
inches
of
snow,
followed
by
ice
and
then
another
snow
dome.
So
thank.
G
F
G
You
just
on
a
last
note.
You
know
just
some
interesting
things.
I
mean
these.
These
events
with
the
mayor
just
said
basically
the
twelve
inches
of
snow
with
ice
in
between
and
then
another
almost
two
and
a
half
inches
of
snow
right
after
that,
back-to-back
winds
up
to
50
miles
an
hour.
The
drifting
was
astronomical.
We
did
have
a
lot
of
issues,
roadways
that
normally
take
a
few
minutes
to
plow
were
taking
hours
to
plow
14th
Avenue
North
was
a
good
example.
G
If
I
had
the
pictures
off
of
my
phone,
it
took
while
we
had
three
motor
graders
with
V
plows
on
the
front,
and
we
had
those
stuck
quite
a
bit,
and
these
some
of
these
are
six
wheel,
drive
motor
graders
with
these
monstrous
six
foot
tall,
V
plow,
stuck
because
of
the
the
drifts
are
six
foot
tall.
You
know
and
that's
about
what
it
takes
to
stick
one
of
those,
but
you
know
those
areas
took
a
lot
of
and
I
even
got
in
a
loader.
The
one
day
I
was
in
a
loader
14
hours.
G
Our
foreman
was
in
a
sander
truck.
He
was
an
equipment
the
whole
time.
We
were
all
trying
to
help
out.
You
know
where
we
could,
but
let's
see
the
since
I've
been
over
there
five
seasons
over
five
winners.
This
is
a
first
snow
event
that
we've
had
where
I
think
we
did
have
last
two
years
ago,
an
eleven
inch
snow,
but
we
didn't
have
the
wind
with
it.
The
wind
is
what
really
hurt
us
on
this
thing.
It
really
caused
some
some
some
bad
areas
that
took
many
hours
to
get
cleared.
G
You
know
our
average
snow
event.
This
is
the
the
fourteen
point.
Three
inches.
You
know
that's
roughly
six
times
bigger
than
our
average
snowing
that
we
whipped
through
that
stuff
in
3040
hours
and
clean
it
up.
This
I
think
we
did
total
in
50.
When
was
it
fifty
eight
hours
of
clearing
the
first
snow,
the
12-inch
anyway?
G
That
was
the
other
thing,
is
when
the
d-o-t
and
was
a
dual
county.
The
d-o-t
and
the
county
called
all
their
plows
in,
and
the
county
Coddington
county
called
their
plows
in
now,
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
d-o-t
called
in
Coddington
County
called
their
plows
off
the
roads,
but
we
continued
to
plow
highways
and
snow
routes
during
that
to
keep
those
open
for
emergency
reasons
and
of
course,
I
already
mentioned
about
the
18-hour
day.
G
They
they
averaged
13
hours
for
nine
days
straight
is
with
the
staff
averaged
and
just
so
you
know
in
case
you
want
to
wear
this.
We
do
pay
double
time
on
Sundays
for
our
staff
and
holidays.
We
pay
double
time
and
they
get
their
holiday
back.
So
you
know
that's,
maybe
not
a
big
deal,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
you're
aware
that
and
I
already
mentioned
about
the
snow
hold
down.
G
C
Of
questions
and
a
comment,
one
question
I
think
he
was
probably
just
answered.
We
really
operate
for
the
most
part
independently,
then
of
this
of
the
state
and
the
county
I'm.
Just
thinking
erodes
out
and
our
neck
of
the
woods
that
that
city
roads
a
butt
up
against
county
roads,
we
really
call
the
shots
and
the
county
has
to
do
their
thing
now.
There's
not
coordination
ongoing
between
county
and
and
city,
for
example.
Generally.
G
C
Question
I
haven't
had
occasion
to
bump
in
to
chief
Kranz
at
restaurant
one
night
last
week,
and
he
firstly
was.
He
was
complimentary
about
the
job
being
done
out
there
under
be
down
by
station
two,
but
also
it's
always
a
concern
of
theirs
and
I've.
Had
people
living
Derby
downs
out,
look
across
the
street
and
they're
always
concerned
too
about
you
know:
access
for
the
emergency
crews
out
there.
So
I,
just
you
know,
pass
it
on
to
I'm
sure
you,
you
guys
coordinate
back
and
forth
with
them,
but
that
is
a
concern
we.
C
In
the
comment
mayor
you,
you
broach
the
the
subject
and
topic
for
another
day.
Obviously,
but
you
talked
about
people
willing
to
pay
more
in
tax
dollars.
You
and
I
both
sat
in
on
the
presentation,
as
did,
did
you
rob
with
the
the
street
symptom
from
Sioux
Falls
here
year
year
and
a
half
ago
and
Sioux
fall
does
levy?
If
you
want
to
call
it
a
snow
tax
or
whatever
they
do
levy
a
tax
down
there
and
I
think
it
is
something
that
you
know.
F
Roby
a
number
of
years
ago,
Sioux
Falls
went
through
all
of
this
and
they
got
a
lot
of
press
coverage
when
they
put
their
snow
gates
in,
and
we've
experienced
pretty
much
the
same
things
that
they
have
so
there's
kind
of
a
narrow
band
where
they
work
very
well.
And
then
it's
kind
of
questionable
outside
of
that
band.
Is
that
fair?
That.
G
Right
now,
it's
about
seventy
five
hundred
bucks
per
machine
to
put
them
to
put
them
on.
That's
what
our
deal
charged
us
to
put
those
on
Butler
cat
wants
about
10,000
a
piece
to
put
him
on.
My
personal
opinion
on
the
snow
gates
are
I.
Think
our
our
snow
clearing
production
would
be
a
lot
better.
A
lot
faster,
a
lot
less
complaints.
If
they,
if
we
didn't
have
them,
we
use
them.
G
G
Basically,
the
way
to
get
faster
is
either
to
add
more
machines
and
more
people
or
if
we
currently
just
were
to
get
rid
of
the
snow
gates,
we'd
be
able
to
get
faster
because
we'd
have
less
people.
You
know
like
I'm,
saying
the
four-man
teams
we
could
have
three-man
teams
and
plus
the
speed
of
doing
the
edges
would
be
faster
and
we
could
keep
the
team
moving
faster
rather
than
slowing
the
leader
down
to
stay
back
with
a
snow
gate,
machine.
G
G
J
I
Get
asked
this
question
Rob
and
I
had
posed
it
to
you
the
other
day
in
regards
to
how
do
we
determine
where
you
start
plowing?
You
know,
let's
just
take
up
in
my
neighborhood
up
in
Ward
a
you
know.
It
seems
like,
as
you
get
farther
to
the
north
and
east,
those
areas
just
seem
to,
because
those
are
more
open.
They
get
hit
harder,
meaning
with
the
land,
more
yeah
it
deploying
and
versus
maybe
some
areas
that
are
more
sheltered
and
they
don't
get
the
wind
effect
per
se.
I
G
G
These
each
team
I
have
a
leader
on
each
team
on
the
west
team.
We
have
a
guy,
that's
been
with
us
for
33
years,
he's
established
his
route
and,
to
be
honest,
I
can't
tell
you
exactly
what
his
route
is,
but
in
general
the
the
teams
depending
on,
if
we're
doing,
avenues
or
streets
like
if,
if
we're
doing
Avenue,
is
they
like
to
take?
G
The
West
team
wants
to
take
right-hand
turns
so
they'll
start
on
the
top
and
work
their
way
to
the
south,
because
when
they
get
to
the
highway
to
highway,
81
or
the
central
team,
when
they
get
to
highway
81,
they
make
a
right-hand
turn
and
then
they'll
go
down.
One
block
and
they'll
come
across
and
when
they
get
to
their
their
west
edge
and,
of
course,
that's
a
left-hand
turn.
But
you
we
always
want
to
turn
right
down
the
highways.
It's
quicker
to
get
out
and
go
so
it's
reducing
the
amount
of
time.
G
You
have
to
sit
and
wait
to
get
out.
So
these
guys
have
spent
a
lot
of
time.
Thinking
about
how
to
make
their
patterns
efficient,
like
I,
say,
I,
couldn't
tell
you
exactly
unless
unless
we
sat
down
and
had
the
GPS
tracking
system
or
something
like
that,
but
I
in
general,
like
on
the
east
side
of
town,
they'd,
start
on
this
more
towards
South.
I.
G
Think
1st
Avenue
north
is
a
dividing
point
where
the
guys
usually
start
there
and
work
north
and
then
our
West
team,
our
farthest
west
team,
when
they
get
done
with
the
west
side
of
town
they'll
go
to
south
central.
We
call
it
which
is
west
of
81
and
south
of
1st
Avenue
and
then
the
converge
on
Southeast
and
the
town
to
finish
up
the
east
team's
lower
portion
of
town.
So
well,
if
we're
so.
G
On
the
right,
strategic
it
is,
and
in
you
are
correct
there,
there
is
a
rhyme
or
reason
to
everything
that
these
guys
do
and
where
we
start
but
depends
on
the
zone
or
the
area
of
town
net
that
we're
doing
that
day,
like
if
it's
a
streets
day
where
the
guys
start
or
if
it's
an
avenues
day
where
they
start.
So
it's
the
most
efficient.
G
E
One
of
the
things
that
I
hear
and
I
I
think
I
know
the
answer,
but
just
they
explain
it
for
the
public's
knowledge.
Everybody
says:
why
do
you
do
uptown
when
you
do
uptown?
Why
is
it
you
know
on
the
top
of
the
list
and
it's
a
unique
situation
up
there?
Obviously,
but
maybe
just
explain
that
so
people
get
a
better
understanding
of
why
uptown
is
usually
at
the
top
of
the
list.
G
Basically,
it's
been
done
prior
to
me
ever
coming
in
and
I
haven't
changed
the
process
on
that,
and
it
really
I
mean
we
have
a
lot
of
businesses
downtown
and
you
know
if
we
wait
an
extra
day.
I
do
receive
a
lot
of
calls
from
the
downtown
area
and
it
really
comes
down
to
business.
As
being
you
know,
it's
it's
important
to
downtown
area
that
people
get
to
their
place
to
purchase
or
you
know
whatever
it
is.
So
we
do
focus
on
that
and
it's
in
our
policy
that
downtown
is
I.
Believe.
G
Correct
we
do
in
the
business
district,
we
do
haul
all
the
snow
we
do
allow.
The
the
people
are
allowed
to
push
their
snow
into
the
street,
not
their
parking
lots
they're
not
allowed
to
push
out
in
the
street,
but
they
are
allowed
to
push
their
sidewalks
on
the
street
and
we
will
haul
it
out
and
we
do
focus
on
that
as
an
important
area
to
do
too,
as
well
as
like,
like
Mickelson
Drive,
there's
an
it's
and
once
Tareq's
rolls
in
there
it's
going
to
become
even
more
important
these
areas.
G
We
try
to
focus
on
getting
people
to
work,
it's
hard
because
you
know
when
you
come
out
of
a
residential
area,
you're
getting
stuck
there,
but
once
you
get
to
a
snow
route,
our
highway
you're
gonna
get
to
your
place
of
work,
hopefully,
and-
and
we
are
trying
to
focus
on
like
the
airport-
we
you
know,
that's,
that's
that's
generally,
where
our
contractor
starts.
When
we
call
him
and
say
hey,
we
need
you
to
go
at
3
in
the
morning.
He
generally
starts
now
at
the
airport.
I
B
G
It's
exactly
exactly
correct.
We
start
generally,
we
start
downtown
at
2:00
a.m.
we
are
done
between
6:00
and
7:00
a.m.
generally
with
downtown
this
last
time
it
took
thirteen
hours
when
we
at
the
12
inch
event,
but
I
track.
As
you
can
see,
I
track
the
time
on
everything
we
you
know
times
the
starts
and
stops
that
we
had
anything
happened.
G
We
track
all
that,
as
close
as
we
can
I
mean
there's
some
times
we'll
miss
something,
but
but
that
is
important
that
we
start
downtown
as
early
as
possible,
so
we're
out
of
the
way
when
traffic
rolls
in
because
those
people
trying
to
get
a
snow,
loader
or
or
a
snow,
blower,
+
tandem,
axle
truck
or
a
semi
with
a
side
dump
beside.
It
is
next
impossible.
When
you
have
cars
parked
on
both
sides
on
some
of
those
streets
so,
and
we
do
have
an
order,
I've
changed
the
order
of
how
we
do
downtown.
G
As
of
this
winter,
1st
Avenue
north
will
always
be
a
priority
priority
1,
where
in
the
past
it
wasn't
for
many
years.
You
know
it's
got
its
got
our
Police
Department
and
our
fire
department
on
First
Avenue
I,
just
it
needed
to
be
done
first.
So
we
do
do
that.
The
guys,
always
in
the
past,
like
to
leave
that
to
last
cuz
it's
wide
and
it's
parallel
parking.
So
you
can
still
get
that.
G
You
know
if
it's
eight
nine
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
there's
tons
of
traffic,
you
can
still
get
that
it's
it's
wide
enough
because
of
the
parallel
parking,
but
it's
important
because
it's
got
our
emergency
services
on
it.
So
I've
just
made
it
a
priority.
To
do.
First,
I
went
in
the
first
and
foremost
and
move
on
to
these
other
roads
and
try
to
get
them
done
before
8
9
o'clock.
When
traffic
really
starts
rolling
into
these
businesses
downtown
all.