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A
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
I
was
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
item
number
2
is
public
input?
Is
there
anyone
here
who
would
like
to
speak?
See
none
we'll
move
on
item
number
3
is
approval
of
the
agenda
and
I
believe
we're
pulling
item
4?
Is
that
correct
all
right?
So
with
that
change
of
emotion
by
l'olam
and
the
second
by
Bueller
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
as
opposed
to
signify
by
saying
nay
motion,
carries
item.
A
5
is
council
consideration
of
construction
change
order,
number
1
final
with
J
and
J
earthworks
Inc
for
the
third
Avenue
Southwest
drainage
improvements,
project
number
1910
for
an
increase
of
fourteen
thousand
nine
hundred
eighty
two
dollars,
fifty
five
cents
motion
by
l'olam
and
a
second
by
man
T
and
with
that
I
would
like
Heath
one-eye
to
tell
us
about
this.
Thank.
B
You
mayor
members
of
council,
this
change
order
does
pertain
to
the
third
Avenue
Southwest
project,
we're
calling
it
a
drainage
improvements
project,
because
that
was
one
of
the
primary
focuses
of
this
reconstruction
of
that
Street
and
curb
and
gutter,
but
there
were
also
other
intrinsic
benefits.
Obviously,
when
we
reconstruct
the
full
Street
aside
from
just
the
drainage
component.
B
The
work
has
been
complete
and
the
change
order
before
you
this
evening
is
a
final
quantities.
Adjustments
that
were
made
throughout
the
construction.
The
progression
of
the
work
and
staff
recommends
approval
based
on
these
final
quantities
in
the
amount
that's
before
you
at
just
under
$15,000,
be
glad
to
help
answer
any
questions.
C
B
Yes,
Thank
You
councilman
fill
our
just
looking
at
the
spreadsheet
that
I
apologize
is
not
one
of
the
attachments
on
here
and
I.
See
Vanessa
from
IDG
is
also
with
us
tonight.
She
was
the
consultant
working
with
us
on
his
project
and,
according
to
the
the
spreadsheet
vanessa
could
confirm
this
for
me,
but
that
is
one
of
the
main
components
that
added
about.
D
You
Heath
Vanessa
Victor
with
infrastructure
design
group
we
did
the
design
and
construction
administration
for
this
project
due
to
the
time
is
of
the
essence,
and
we
wanted
to
fix
some
of
the
drainage
concerns
that
the
neighborhood's
neighborhood
was
having.
We
did
not
do
soil
borings,
like
we
generally
do
when
we
do
a
roadway
reconstruct.
So
when
it
came
to
this
project,
we
were
anticipating
using
a
lot
of
the
existing
base
course
underneath
the
roadway
that
was
not
there.
So
it
was
a
change
order.
D
After
the
fact,
the
majority
of
those
costs
are
actually
from
the
actual
millings
where
they,
the
city,
did
provide
the
millings,
but
J&J
had
to
go
out
and
transport
them
to
site,
and
then,
additionally,
there
was
a
couple
of
outliers,
basically
approaches
to
people's
homes
that
they
weren't
using
that
they
would
like
removed
and
basically
a
connection
off
of
a
double
connection
off
of
the
sidewalk.
That
didn't
seem
prudent,
so
a
couple
of
more
concrete
removals
and
then
fixing
a
driveway
approach.
A
Any
other
questions
all
right,
I'll
look
for
action.
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries.
Thank
you
item
number.
Six
is
council
consideration
of
construction
change
order
number
one
final,
with
crest
stone,
Builders
Inc
for
the
downtown
alley,
reconstruction
project
number
1907
for
an
increase
of
five
hundred
forty
three
dollars:
39
cents
I
have
a
motion
by
l'olam
and
a
second
by
Roby
and
Heath.
You
tell
us
about
this
one
please.
Yes,.
B
Thank
you
Mary.
This
is
our
annual
alley
improvements
project
for
the
downtown
area
where
we've
been
reconstructing
and
repaving
old,
existing
paved
alleys
throughout
the
downtown
alley.
Network.
Now
this
this
project
kind
of
had
to
do
a
lot
of
adjustment
adjustments.
This
year,
we
originally
had
programmed
T
alley
between
First
Avenue,
north
and
camp
Avenue,
that's
between
3rd
Street
East
and
4th
Street
East,
due
to
the
potential
for
some
adjacent
future
construction
projects
that
could
impact
that
alley
and
require
to
be
removed.
B
There
was
some
additional
geotextile
fabric
that
was
added
as
a
new
item
new
bid
item
and
then
some
concrete
blanketing
that
had
to
occur
because
of
the
cold
weather
placements
and
then
some
change
orders
for
rebar
as
well,
but
there
was
also
some
project
savings.
So
the
net
effect
of
this
change
order
is
a
nominal
amount
of
five
hundred
and
forty
three
dollars
and
thirty
nine
cents,
and
we
again
would
entertain
any
questions.
Council
might
have
Thank.
E
B
C
B
That's
a
great
question:
thank
you
for
pointing
that
out.
Councilman
feel
our
because
that
one
came
into
the
mix
between
discussions
with
the
streets,
superintendent,
the
assistant
city
engineer
and
the
the
shear
dagger
dagger
degradation
that
that
Ally
had
incurred
our
city
street
crews
do
maintain
that
alley
and
because
of
the
condition
it
was
in,
it
was
becoming
very,
very
difficult
for
them
to
keep
it
maintained
and
passable
even
for
our
maintenance
equipment,
let
alone
the
general
public
and
the
users
adjacent
to
that
alley.
That
used
it
on
a
daily
basis.
B
So
we
did
program
that
one
end,
even
though
it
was
outside
the
direct
boundaries
of
the
downtown
area
and
included
that
in
the
alley
repaving
program.
For
those
reasons,
I
would
say
long
story
short
as
it
ranked
very
high
on
the
need
for
having
some
Corrections
made
to
it,
and
so
we
allocated
those
funds
from
this
project
towards
that
alley.
Thank.
C
A
C
B
So
it
was
really
a
lot
of
information
sharing
and
and
getting
everybody
in
that
committee
on
the
same
wavelength
of
what
the
history
of
this
project
was
and
from
here
we
were
doing
additional
homework,
doing
a
little
bit
more
research
on
what
that
history,
exactly
included.
Looking
at
some
urban
renewal,
Board
minutes
and
things
of
that
nature
that
might
help
steer
the
discussion
on
what
the
original
intent
was
of
this
project
or
this
initiative
and
we're
going
to
bring
that
information
forward.
C
A
F
Sorry
newbie
at
the
Watertown
council
chambers,
my
name
is
John
Jacobson
with
confluence.
Obviously,
with
me
is
Vanessa
Victor
from
infrastructure
design
group.
We
were
part
of
the
consulting
team
hired
to
put
this
plan
together.
For
you,
also,
in
conjunction
with
our
team,
was
another
engineering
firm,
a
e2s
based
out
of
South
Dakota
and
North
Dakota
and
dr.
Brian
Grubb,
who
is
our
fisheries
expert
so
between
those
four
groups?
We
assembled
this
plan
so
as
we
go
through,
it
feel
free.
To
throw
your
hand
up
interrupt
me.
F
Ask
a
question:
is
we're
going
we'd
be
happy
to
talk
about
different
parts
that
way?
Nothing
slips
your
mind
by
the
time
we
get
to
the
end
of
our
presentation
and
Vanessa
and
I
will
try
hard
to
answer
your
questions
that
you
may
have
so
this
presentation
here
going
to
run
through
the
overview
our
public
input
results.
Our
analysis
and
recommendations
are
the
land
use
in
planning
and
zoning
work
that
we
went
through
and
the
ultimate
and
implement
plan
that
we
have
so.
F
So
we
went
through
a
number
of
different
public
feedback
sessions.
An
important
part
of
the
RFP
was
to
work
with
the
public
both
of
around
Lake
Camp
SK
and
within
the
community
itself.
So
we
did
that
in
a
number
of
open
houses
and
through
a
survey
that
we
sent
out,
the
first
open
house
was
in
June
of
2018
and
we
had
over
a
hundred
plus
attendees.
We
created
a
community
survey
in
feedback
form
that
summer
and
we
got
over
526
surveys
back
and
then
we
had
another
open
house
in
the
December
of
of
that
year.
F
F
Just
us
talking
about
different
proposals
and
things
to
see
so
as
part
of
that
they're
able
to
go
up
and
we
have
a
series
of
boards
where
they
can
go
up
to
and
put
dots
on
images
they
like
ones
that
they
don't
like,
which
oftentimes
isn't
so
much
just
about
the
image
itself,
because
you
can
look
at
things
in
any
one
image
and
see
things
you
like
or
don't
like.
But
it
really
starts
as
a
good
discussion
point
for
us
to
listen
to
people's
conversation.
To
listen.
F
The
neighbors
talk
to
each
other
about
why
they
like
something
why
they
may
not
like
something
and
really
that's
where
we
begin
to
see
and
get
a
feel
for
what
the
project
is
going
to
be
like
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen.
You'll
see
a
lot
of
the
images
that
people
kind
of
preferred
as
possible
development
and
hopf
uses
along
the
lake
different
aesthetic
treatments
that
they
liked
and
then
on.
The
right
side,
you'll,
see
kind
of
was
what
is
the
least
preferred
images
which
oftentimes
just
ended
up
based
on
density
and
use.
F
Obviously,
clean
water,
restaurant
bar
completing
the
trail
system,
a
marina,
improved
water
quality,
improved
fishing,
deeper
water,
/,
dredging
bike,
/,
kayak,
rentals,
flood
control
and
safety,
and
one
thing
that
I
want
to
point
out
in
that
wanting
to
see
since
this
was
initial
in
the
project,
was
how
high
dredging
was
on
everybody's
list,
because,
obviously
just
based
on
prior
conversations
and
planning
work,
everyone
thought
well.
Dredging
is
the
answer
to
making
our
lake
better
right.
F
Just
like
on
the
good
side,
people
didn't
want
to
see
a
marina
because
in
some
people's
minds
that
equals
congestion
and
higher
lake
use,
flooding,
habitat
destruction
and
a
resort,
so
the
graphic
on
the
right
hand.
Side
is
a
Wordle,
and
what
that
is,
it
will
input
how
many
times
we
see
a
word
in
a
survey
in
the
more
times.
It's
there
that
bigger
the
word
is
so,
interestingly
enough,
one
of
the
biggest
things
in
this
world
ole
was
fishing.
The.
F
So
that's
you
know
that
kind
of
feedback
is
very
handy,
so
I
mean
it
was
good
for
us
to
know
that
the
city
wasn't
necessarily
operating
from
a
planning
standpoint
from
a
different
parameter
as
to
how
the
community
and
residents
were
feeling.
So
this
is
just
a
more
impact
or
more
feedback
on
app
as
far
as
different
things
that
activities
that
people
wanted
to
see
related
to
public
beaches,
ranking
high
parking
and
access
the
marina,
again
Park
and
play
areas
all
the
way
down
to
different
fishing
docks.
F
So
this
is
where
people
put
either
high
uses
on
there
that
they
currently
do
or
ones
that
they
wanted
to
see
so
continue
quantifying
that
feedback
and
here's
a
good
summary
of
the
most
desired
amenities
that
were
listed
to
us
through
our
various
meetings
and
the
four
asterisks
there
that
include
improved
water
quality,
a
restaurant,
improved
fishing
and
public
beaches
were
kind
of
the
top
response.
Getters.
F
If
you
will
the
top
four,
but
you
can
see
all
the
way
down
to
sports
fields
there
at
38
and
then,
as
far
as
priorities
go
again,
the
top
four
are
asterisks
again.
Dredging
made
the
list
fish,
habitat
improvement,
increased
beach
and
public
access
to
campus
and
then
walking
and
biking
so
over
on
the
right
side.
You'll
see
an
average
of
what
that
priority
ranking
was
per
feedback
form
overall.
F
F
This
is
a
summary
of
some
of
the
comment
card
excerpts
we
received.
I
won't
go
through
them
in
detail,
but
it's
you
know,
essentially
water
quality,
being
a
big
theme,
but
also
improving
fisheries
and
I.
Think
oftentimes.
When
people
see
plans
like
this,
they
get
a
little
wore
down
by
timeframes,
especially
when
there's
prior
planning
that's
occurred,
and
so
the
lot
of
the
feedback
we
received
was
really
trying
to
find
what
some
of
those
quick
wins
are,
so
that
the
community
can
begin
to
see
some
progress
out.
F
There
then
listing
again
as
far
as
that
feedback.
What
some
potential
projects
are
that
we
had
listed
out
for
them
and
dredging
all
the
way
through
wayfinding
science,
so
we
tried
not
to
let
even
the
details
fall
out
of
the
public
planning.
So
our
analysis
and
recommendations
that
we
put
together
our
vanessa
is
going
to
go
through
them
and
really
going
to
focus
on
water
quality
here
for
a
moment.
So.
D
D
Is
this
a
feasible
task
for
the
city
to
take
on
to
dredge
the
entire
lake
create
an
island,
and
what
does
that
look
like
for
Lake
and
pasta
and
for
the
future
water
quality
for
the
lake
right
now,
lakum
Pesce
is
hyper
eutrophic
due
to
phosphorus
and
nitrogen
levels,
which
make
us
it
an
in
a
fisheries
world
hard
for
fish
to
survive.
It's
when
you
talk
water
quality
and
Fisheries
the
to
actually
go
really
closely
hand-in-hand.
You
need
one
for
the
other
and
the
other
helps
the
other.
D
If
you
have
good
fisheries,
your
water
quality
is
generally
good
and
vice
versa,
so
the
biggest
source
is
for
phosphorus
loading
or
when
I
talk
about
the
hyper
eutrophic
and
the
lake
are
what
is
naturally
in
the
lake
right
now
and
what
is
coming
into
the
lake
from
the
Big
Sioux
River.
We
do
have
one
Inlet
and
one
outlet,
and
it
is
the
same
structure
by
the
former
lunker's,
which
is
now
the
North
Shore,
and
that
poses
some
some
constraints
on
how
water
flows
in
and
out
of
our
Lake
system.
D
So
how
do
we
properly
manage
that
going
for
it
that,
as
far
as
water
quality
is
there
have
been
a
slew
of
studies
of
water
quality
on
Lake
Pesce?
We
did
review
the
majority
of
those,
and
our
water
quality
was
actually
done
by
a
to
us.
They
are
a
very
good
hydrological
firm
that
specializes
in
water
quality.
In
fact,
they
have
a
sister
company
that
does
dredging.
So
when
we
talk
about
dredging
I
feel
like
our
costs
are
pretty
in
tune
because
they
do
it
as
part
of
their
company.
D
The
biggest
thing
that
we
found
was
that
in
order
to
treat
the
actual
lake
loading,
so
let's
talk
about
the
water
column,
there's
alum
treatments
that
are
available.
It's
basically
a
chemical
that
you
apply
to
the
lake
and
it
coagulates
with
the
phosphorous
and
then
that
settles
and
disappears
most
of
those
phosphorus
levels,
allowing
for
your
you
to
ocation
to
go
down
and
your
water
quality
to
increase.
D
When
you
do
those
alum
treatments,
you
actually
have
to
apply
at
the
water
column
and
the
sediment
level,
because
over
time,
everything
at
the
bottom
has
already
accumulated
this
phosphorous.
That
has
settled
so
when
you,
if
you're
just
treating
the
water
column
you're
not
getting
to
the
root
of
the
bottom
of
the
sediment
and
during
turbid
times
that
sediment
will
just
release
more
phosphorous.
So
it's
you're
kind
of
chasing
your
tail.
So
it's
a
two-part
process
where
you
treat
the
water
and
the
actual
sediment.
D
D
Your
best
bang
for
your
buck
will
actually
be
the
home
treatments
and
we'll
discuss
that
a
little
bit
further
in
a
bit
actually
I
want
you
to
go
back
one
more
time
and
then
to
address
the
the
river
loading,
because
every
time
we
have
a
flooding
event
no
different
than
this
past
year,
we
get
a
whole
lot
of
nitrogen.
We
have
a
whole
lot
of
phosphorus
that
enters
the
lake
and
that
has
kind
of
nowhere
to
go.
D
The
lake
can
Pesce
as
a
whole
has
very
many
intrinsic
benefits
to
the
city
of
Watertown
for
water
quantity
issues
when
we
are
flooding
the
like
absorb
some
of
that
impact
for
the
town.
So
if
we
were
just
to
disconnect
Lake
Camp
Asaka,
it
would
have
some
more
severe
effects
to
the
town
itself.
So
to
try
to
limit
that
that
loading
we
are
actually
suggesting
raising
the
existing,
where
that
is
out
there
approximately
two
feet.
D
A
D
Oh
short
answer:
no,
this
is
a
so
for
our
scope.
In
our
project
area.
We
did
not
evaluate
the
downstream
effort.
We
did
review
previous
studies
and
I
can't
say
off
the
top
of
my
head.
What
studies
did
look
at
that
impact,
but
permitting
wise
to
disconnect
you're
changing
the
whole
floodplain
throughout
town?
D
A
D
F
I'm
not
trying
to
give
you
an
on
answer,
but
I
think,
based
on
our
experience
of
permitting
such
a
feat
that,
based
on
the
history
of
camp
Eska
and
the
connection
to
the
Big
Sur
River,
that's
really
quite
unlikely,
even
though
from
a
water
quality
standpoint,
it's
probably
the
best
answer
and
it's
a
bigger
it's
a
study
on
top
of
the
study.
So
we
didn't,
we
didn't
get
into
that
kind
of
detail.
D
This
slide
basically
kind
of
explains
how
the
alum
treatment
works.
Like
I
said
it's
what
are
applied
and
then
it
binds
to
the
phosphorus
and
then
it
coagulates
and
settles
to
the
bottom,
the
cost
for
the
water
column.
Alum
treatment
is
eight
to
ten
million
dollars
per
application
and
you
apply
it
on
the
whole
Lake
same
for
the
sediment
treatment,
except
for
it's
a
little
bit
cheaper
for
six
to
eight
million,
and
this
is
a
cyclical
process.
So
it
will
have
to
be
repeated
until
you
hit
your
phosphorus
levels
that
you
would
like
to
see.
D
G
Two
questions
on
this
one:
if
dredging
is
something
we
really
want
to
do
and
get
some
of
the
stuff
out
of
the
lake
I
assume
is
this
alum
add
to
it?
Are
we
kind
of
throwing
more
junk
in
the
lake?
That's
question.
One
question
number
two:
is
you
look
in
the
past
may
try
to
treat
roads
that
bring
in
some
other
predator
to
take
care
of
the
road.
Then
the
predator
then
becomes
the
road.
Then
again
it
gets
to
be
a
vicious
cycle.
D
So
this
slide
basically
talks
about
us
wanting
to
reduce
that
phosphorus
and
sediment
loading
by
adjusting
the
the
Weir
flow
and
then,
on
top
of
it,
there's
a
clear
s
system
that
roger
has
been
looking
at
that
deals
with
perpetual
use
and
clearing
of
the
water
at
the
lake.
As
far
as
the
I'm
sorry
I
thought
it
was
the
next
slide,
but
there
we
go
when
we
get
to
the
dredging
approaches.
D
It
is
really
the
the
cost-prohibitive
nature
of
it.
So
that's
when
we
were
talking
about
selective
areas
would
be
ideal.
Ideally
you
know
dredging
by
the
inlet
outlet,
not
a
bad
idea.
Dredging
in
certain
locations,
not
a
terrible
idea,
but
for
bang
for
your
buck
is
always
going
to
be
the
alum
treatment.
As
far
as
side
effects,
it
has
been
routinely
used.
It's
a
chemical
process,
so
I
am
not
aware
of
any
side
effects
that
would
come
from
it
if
the
biggest
cost
variable
with
dredging
is
not
necessarily
well.
D
It's
it's
extracting
everything,
but
once
you
dredge
out
with
the
material,
you
have
a
lot
of
what
muck,
so
that
actually
is,
has
to
settle.
You
have
to
get
all
the
water
out
of
it
and
then
you
have
to
transport
it
somewhere.
So
it's
it's
the
settling
process
and
then
the
transporting
to
where
is
that
material?
Actually,
gonna
go
if
it's
within
two
miles
of
Lake
in
pesco,
you
know:
you're,
dredging
costs
are
considerably
cheaper.
If
you
are
going
15
miles,
it's
considerably
more
expensive.
E
Other
side,
too
I'm
sure
it
has
a
smell
to
it,
but
my
next
question
with
it
is
so
we
kind
of
know
the
cost
and
we'll
see
it
further
in
here
too,
the
cost
to
have
someone
do
the
dredging
for
us.
Have
we
ever
looked
into
how
much
a
dredge
itself
would
cost
the
city
if
they
wanted
to
purchase
one?
If
this
was
an
ongoing,
very
long
project,
yep.
D
E
F
Just
because
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
larger
operations
conversations
and
that
that's
one
of
the
products
from
this
plan,
then
we
would
be
excited
to
support
that
and
to
help
the
city
try
to
figure
that
out
for
sure.
But
it's
not
part
of
this
report.
As
far
as
a
specific
action
and
the
other
thing,
I'll
go
back
to
with
the
alum
element,
self
doesn't
add
anything
to
the
lake,
but
obviously
the
sediment
that
it's
going
to
bind
out
of
the
lake
is
going
to
at
the
bottom.
F
So
over
time
the
alum
treatment
is
gonna,
build
up
and
the
sediment
will
continue
to
pile
up
on
the
bottom.
So
while
it's
a
treatment
and
it's
a
good
one
from
our
water
quality
standpoint
to
it,
just
like
any
other
chemical
treatment,
it's
temporary
because
you're
just
adding
to
the
problem
over
the
long
term
of
the
lake
Vanessa.
D
It's
a
little
lake
outside
of
Rapid
City
and
it
was
actually
a
game.
Fish
and
parks.
I
bought
the
bought
the
dredge
on
behalf
of
the
entity.
They
are
not
doing
it.
It
is
a
smaller
dredging
system
because
it
is
a
well
it's
a
Black,
Hills
Lake.
So
it
has
a
different
series
of
problems
than
then
we
have
a
lake
in
Pasco
just
due
to
its
natural
soil
surroundings.
A
G
Have
a
lot
to
do
with
the
size
and
its
mechanical
or
hydraulic
type
of
the
dredge
I
would
imagine
too,
that
would
make
a
big
difference
in
in
the
cost,
but
in
this
plan
they
look
through
this
and
we
did
talk
a
little
bit
about
combining,
maybe
some
spot
type
of
dredging.
Where
would
where
would
be
the
best
places
to
do
that?
Where
would
we
be
thinking?
We
want
Spa
garage,
we.
D
We
do
have
a
couple
of
spots
located
further
on
in
the
presentation.
Basically,
inlet/outlet
would
be
a
great
spot.
Any
place
that
you
would
like
to
put
a
marina
potentially
would
be
a
great
spot,
and
then
we
have
some
targeted
areas
for
fisheries.
When
we
get
into
that,
we
will
talk
about
we.
We
established
two
different
zones
for
fisheries
and
there's
a
shallow
shallow
fish,
loving
your
fish,
yeah
fish
that,
like
shallow
water
and
then
there's
fish,
that
like
deep
water,
so
creating
some
of
those
environments
for
them
would
be
those
select
dredging
opportunities.
D
G
F
Sure
so
that's
really
going
to
depend
upon
where
you
do
it
so
by
the
inlet
outlet.
Obviously,
it's
gonna
fill
up
quicker
based
on
the
actions
of
the
river,
so
I
suspect
that
dredging
would
be
something
that
you
would
do
every
five
to
ten
years
and
just
to
keep
a
depth
in
there.
When
it
comes
to
the
fisheries.
I
would
expect
that
to
be
in
some
of
the
other
areas
where
we
would
want
to
do.
Targeted
dredging
would
be
in
the
twenty
year
range.
Come.
H
Roger
foot
with
the
watershed
project,
Storm
Lake
Iowa,
has
been
dredging
for
twenty
years.
At
a
million
dollars
a
year.
An
8/10
25%
and
their
lake
is
a
fraction
of
the
size
of
campus
go.
Is
that
a
hired
company
they
actually
bought
their
own
dredge
and
they
hired
their
own
crew
and
they're
still
spending
a
million
dollars
a
year.
I'm.
E
H
H
G
H
The
smaller
size
that
they
have,
they
obviously
there's
more
effect
with
what
they're
doing
with
the
lake
to
the
quarter
the
size
of
camp
Aska.
Each
foot
that
they
take
out
is
a
higher
percentage
of
what
is
there
with
camp
Eska
as
large,
and
it's
windswept
as
it
is.
It's
gonna
cost
a
lot
more
and
take
a
lot
longer.
I.
F
Think
that
feeds
into
ultimately
why
we've
been
talking
about
some
of
the
alum
and
raising
the
inlet/outlet
a
little
bit,
because
in
the
end,
with
that
kind
of
dredging
investment,
you're
gonna
want
some
return
on
that
investment
right
and
unless
that
changes,
you're
continually
battling
the
same
problem
all
the
time.
So
I
think
that's
the
reason
why
the
report
really
says
dealing
with
that.
Inlet
outlet
and
the
connection
to
the
big
shoe
river
is
the
first
primary
step,
dr.
Brian,
our
fisheries
expert.
F
If
it
was
up
to
him,
he'd
make
the
whole
connection
go
away,
a
period
just
from
the
water
quality
and
fishery
standpoint.
But
we
know
in
the
scheme
of
what
this
lake
does
from
a
flood
control
stand
that
that's
not
going
to
be
possible
because
there's
a
lot
of
other
people
that
would
have
a
say
over
that
disconnection
from
a
regulatory
standpoint.
F
So
well
that
prior
graphic,
the
one
thing
I'll
just
quick
mention-
you'll
see
that
the
pre
dredge
lake
depth
air
of
twelve
to
fifteen
feet.
As
far
as
that
estimate
goes,
and
the
post
dredge
like
depth
of
being
eighteen
to
twenty
one
foot
deep.
So
you
can
see
compared
to
what
Roger
was
talking
about
with
one
foot
at
Clear,
Lake
and
inward
to
get
down
to
some
of
that
original
lake
bottom.
We
would
have
a
lot
of
dredging
to
do.
D
We
did
include
this
just
for
a
quick
schematic
when
we
were
talking
about
designated
fish
areas
or
fish
cities.
You
can
dredge
to
sculpt
the
bottom
of
the
lake
to
create
little
fish
cities
so
rolling
with
that
topic.
If
we
did
some
dredging
by
sandy
shores
in
the
Bay
Area
and
then
took
out
about
a
hundred
acres
to
create
a
nice
fish
City
over
there
and
that's
a
prime
location,
it's
not
as
susceptible
to
the
winds
sweep
that
you
would
see
throughout
the
lake.
F
The
what
we're
trying
to
show
here
the
finished
product
is,
give
you
an
idea
size
of
an
island
in
the
lake.
If
you
will
and
underwater
island
compared
to
the
overall
scope
of
the
lake-
and
you
can
see
it's
pretty
easy
to
look
at
a
plan
and
go
about-
we
build
the
island
here
and
how
about
we
put
another
on
here
and
you
can
see,
it
obviously
adds
up
to
real
dollar.
F
If
you
will
it's
really
more
of
an
interactive
thing
where
these
different
habitats
are
developed
and
they
all
have
a
name?
Obviously,
it's
something:
that's
public,
publicly
accessible.
You
can
find
the
spots
by
your
GPS
and
some
fishermen
you're.
Just
going
to
know
it,
but
it's
a
good
way
to
kind
of
bring
branding.
If
you
will
the
lake
in
the
bay
all
do
to
increase
that
experience,
that's
another
thing
that
we
looked
at
was
the
creation
of
a
fishing
point
there.
F
This
is
just
a
schematic
to
kind
of
show
some
of
those
improvements
along
with
hypothetical
marina.
This
isn't
on
any
one
particular
site,
but
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
really
show
that
both
the
pier
and
marina
can
be
constructed
in
a
way
that
they'd
also
create
fish
habitat
both
on
the
inside
and
outside,
based
on
the
riprap
that
would
go
along
the
outside
edge
and
the
vegetation.
That's
on
the
inside
edge
and
I'll
talk
more
here
in
a
moment
as
to
why
that
edge
is
important.
F
The
next
vignette
really
shows
that
even
with
people's
docks,
you
know,
if
you
look
at
some
of
our
diagrams
and
little
bit
more
detail.
I
think
it
was
83%
of
the
lake
edge
is
privately
owned
right
now,
which
is
a
good
thing
from
having
the
public
bought
into
the
project
but
from
fish
habitat
point
of
view
and
control
that
edge.
It's
a
difficult
thing,
because
you
know
most
fish
reproduce
on
that
edge
and
that
transition
from
shallow
to
deep
is
quite
important.
F
So,
even
using
people's
docks
and
putting
artificial
structures
under
those
docks
can
really
increase
the
habitat
of
the
lake,
because
what
you're
doing
is
extending
that
edge
and
putting
that
artificial
material
out
underneath
there
so
you're
really
creating
more
edge
along
privately
owned
property.
So
this
is
a
diagram
that
really
shows
another
way
to
increase
some
of
that
edge
and
that's
connecting
some
of
the
disconnected
wetlands
that
currently
occurred
along
awake
all
along
the
lake
that
have
been
disconnected
over
its
development.
F
D
F
D
D
The
huge
goal
of
Fisheries
is
basically
to
have
20%
shoreline
improvements,
that's
a
magical
percentage
where
fish
starts
spawning,
more
fish
habitats
take
off,
and
so
in
order
to
attain
that
20%
shoreline
improvement
is
why
we
want
to
incorporate
the
the
wetlands.
Also,
the
wetlands
do
an
amazing
job
of
just
naturally
clarifying
our
water,
and
it's
a
easy
way
of
attaining
that,
since
all
of
Lake
Invesco
is
basically
already
developed.
G
D
G
F
So
to
answer
your
question
councilman,
this
is
kind
of
a
couple
different
schematics.
In
some
existing
areas,
we
would
be
able
to
do
under
Road
or
under
trail
pass
through
that
actually
could
be
accessed
by
a
non
motorized
boat,
whether
it's
a
kayak
or
canoe,
but
other
ones,
and
because
of
elevation
changes
they
would
literally
be
just
our
CP
precast
culverts.
F
D
F
G
G
D
D
D
Your
best
insulation
will
actually
be
to
to
replace
when
we
get
into
the
implementation
of
it.
You'll
see
that
we've
tried
to
coordinate
a
lot
of
these
projects
with
projects
that
you
are
already
doing,
whether
it
might
not
be
under
engineering,
it
might
be
under
parks,
it
might
be
through
another
project,
but
there's
opportunities
for
cost
sharing
and
fixing
some
of
the
different
areas
right.
F
They
face
I
mean
depending
upon
if
we
I
think
it's
better.
If
we
make
some
of
those
areas
if
they
can
be
accessed
by
canoe
or
boat,
that
makes
them
better
right
because
it
brings
them
within
the
public
eyesight
right
and
if
we're
gonna
do
that.
Unfortunately,
it's
a
major
enough
construction
project
that
leaving
the
road
on
touch
would
be
highly
unlikely.
Okay,
so
another
one
of
the
elements
that
we
looked
at
in
conjunction
with
this
plan
was
the
overall
planning
and
zoning
around
the
lake
currently
cuz.
F
Obviously,
land
use
is
a
big
part
of
the
overall
development
of
the
lake
and
its
water
quality.
So
we
get
into
some
summaries.
Here
are
seven
primary
goals
from
a
Planning
and
Zoning
standpoint
to
manage
the
growth,
prevent,
lessen
traffic
congestion,
separate
/,
buffer
incompatible
land
uses,
preserve
neighborhood
character,
quality
of
life,
protect
property
values,
set
expectations
and
requirements
for
new
development
and
identify
needed
or
desired
services,
and
amenities.
F
So
in
front
of
this
is
a
graphic
portraying
our
kind
of
a
few
things
that
exist
right
now,
and
it
really
highlights
on
the
private
land
use
that
I
was
talking
before
right.
Now
so
a
lot
of
that
orange
around
the
perimeter
of
the
lake
is
all
for
the
most
part,
private.
Well,
it's
all
privately
owned.
F
The
green
is
the
public
parts
that
exist
currently
and
then
disconnected
and
connected
wetlands,
so
from
a
land
use
and
zoning
recommendations,
point
of
view
and
we've
laid
that
a
lot
by
one
of
my
business
partners,
Chris
shires
who's,
the
former
planning
or
West
Des
Moines
Iowa,
went
through
a
lot
of
this
presented.
This
information
do
your
Planning
and
Zoning
subcommittee
here
two
weeks
ago
and
so
was
really
able
to
get
into
depth
on
a
lot
of
this.
F
But
this
is
our
overall
recommendations
that
you
see
summarized
in
front
of
you,
so
we
didn't
want
to
leave
this
item
untouched
as
part
of
our
planning
work.
So
this
shows
a
future
land
use
map
that
we've
been
developing
over
the
last
12
months
that
we've
been
working
on
this
working
in
conjunction
with
the
cog
and
the
city
to
be
able
to
identify
what
we
feel
is
an
appropriate
future
land
use
map.
C
Back
that
previous
slide,
John
I
know
this
is
going
to
come
up
later
on
and
in
our
conversation
at
our
council
meeting,
do
you
want
to
address,
or
can
somebody
explain,
I'm
looking
at
the
the
triangle
shape
piece
of
property
up
on
the
top?
That's
going
to
be
an
item
of
discussion
tonight,
Vanessa
I've
talked
to
Heath.
C
I've
include
JUnit
email,
I
know
in
one
of
your
earlier
versions
of
your
earlier
iterations
of
your
plan
that
that
particular
area
up
there,
as
well
as
the
one
by
sailboat
landing,
which
we
acted
on
just
a
few
months
ago,
that
had
a
different
recommended
use
in
earlier
iterations.
Can
we
get
an
explanation
as
to
why
that
recommended
use
has
changed
per
this?
This
map
that
we're
seeing
now.
F
I
can
give
you
a
little
bit
of
detail
on
that
and
in
general,
and
typically
it's
part
of
the
process,
councilman
oftentimes
when
we
begin
to
generate
our
first
draft
of
these
land
use
maps,
it's
based
on
the
process
that
we've
been
through
up
to
that
point.
So
a
lot
of
our
initial
planning
and
zoning
and
mapping
that
we
put
together
was
based
on
public
feedback
that
we
received
that
we
had
gone
through
up
to
that
point.
F
But
then,
obviously
we
work
for
multiple
people
on
a
project
like
this
we're
surveying
the
public
to
get
what
they
want,
we're,
also
working
with
the
klog
and
existing
zoning
guidelines,
which
we
begin
to
incorporate
into
that
mapping
and
then
over
time.
Obviously
we
work
with
the
city
as
well
and
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Department
and
begin
to
integrate
what
they
want
to
see
as
well,
so
oftentimes
as
we
go
through
this
process,
it's
a
something
that
just
like
the
dredging
and
some
of
our
other
recommendations
change
over
time.
F
E
I'm
just
kind
of
wandering
here
too
now
that
we
brought
up
looking
at
it.
So
maybe
it's
just
the
neighborhood,
because
I
see
neighborhood
highway
commercial,
but
looking
on
that
south
tip
of
the
lake
there
right
in
the
pinch
kind
of
a
60th
Street
Southwest,
the
one
that's
actually
touching
the
lake
is,
is
that
being
recommended
more
so
as
like
a
neighborhood
or
as
highway
commercial.
F
B
And
I
mean
to
John's
point
and
the
councilman
lawyers
question
I.
Think
one
point
of
clarity
that
maybe
make
here
is
the
HC
nomenclature
that
the
consultant
has
used
isn't
definitively
equated
to
our
C
3
highway
commercial
zoning
district.
There
HC
that
they're
showing,
although
highway
commercial,
is
one
of
them.
It's
also
considered
neighborhood
commercial,
so
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
it
can
be
neighborhood
commercial
or
highway
commercial
in
accordance
with
their
their
legend.
B
I
know
it
gets
a
little
bit
confusing
because
when
we
see
HC
do
to
art
zoning
conventions,
we're
used
to
thinking
only
highway
commercial,
but
in
this
case,
for
the
terms
of
this
study
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
John
or
Vanessa,
but
it
could
be
either/or
neighborhood
or
highway
commercial.
Thank
you.
D
Along
the
same
lines,
it's
also
important
to
note
that,
currently,
if
your
single-family
residential
in
town
and
your
single-family
residential
at
the
lake,
your
ear
zoning
and
your
regulations
are
exactly
the
same.
We
do
recommend
as
a
part
of
the
study
that
you
come
up
with
a
lake
residential
and
in
town
residential,
because
there
are
two
different
piece
same
for
your
commercial.
F
F
F
For
that
area,
and
then
focusing
on
water
quality
and
fish
habitat,
ultimately,
depending
upon
the
decisions
that
are
made
through
there,
we
have
a
first
phase,
total
of
just
over
eighteen
and
a
half
million
dollars,
a
second
phase
continuing
to
do
water
quality
projects
and
fish
habitat
projects.
Five
to
ten
years,
is
about
eight
hundred
thousand
and
then
lastly,
a
ten
to
fifteen
year
plan
would
be
another
investment
of
about
sixteen
and
a
half
million
dollars
again.
So
this
is
not
you
know
it's
our
goal
to
create
a
roadmap.
F
D
It
if
you
go
through
the
cost
implementation,
obviously
the
most
expensive
items
on
it
are
the
alum
treatments.
These
are
repetitive
and
they're
only
as
good
as
your
next
flooding
event.
So
if
you
would
have
done
an
alum
treatment
a
year
ago,
with
the
flooding
that
we've
had
over
the
last
summer,
you
would
probably
still
have
to
do
an
alum
treatment,
so
there
are
risks
involved
and
there
would
be
that
same
risk
with
the
dredging.
But
just
so
you
have
your
eyes
wide
open
when
you
you're
planning.
D
D
We
did
lump
those
into
your
bridge
inspections
I'm,
not
presenting
on
that
tonight,
because
I
think
your
council
agenda
is
long
enough,
but
we'll
talk
about
them
and
in
January,
but
trying
to
capitalize
on
some
of
the
the
known
structures
that
we
know
that
you
need
to
replace,
and
it's
already
on
your
radar
and
your
capital
improvement
plan
and
just
making
sure
that
when
we
design
the
replacement
for
that,
we
are
taking
into
effect
the
the
positive
benefits
for
the
lake.
At
the
same
time,.
G
E
So
I
can
toss
out
on
that
a
little
bit
to
if
you've
ever
gotten
adventurous
with
a
kayak.
You
can
take
that
little
waterway,
that's
up
by
a
North
Shore
and
just
ride
that
sucker
all
the
way
into
town
and
you'll
see
that
all
that
water
does
flow
directly
into
the
community.
So
if
you
did
shut
that
off,
it's
exactly
where
it's
gonna
go
through
goes
through
a
bunch
of
farmland
and
then
it
exits
like
right
by
where
you
pass
the
big
Sioux
River
on
the
way
out
so
I've.
G
Vanessa,
when
you
did
your
study,
is
there
anything
about
Springs
in
that
wall
in
like
camp
Eska
that,
if
that
were
ever
a
point
to
close
off
some
of
that
water
coming
in?
If
we
would
dredge
the
springs,
that
probably
are
covered
and
I've
heard
there
are
Springs.
Maybe
several
it
used
to
fill
that
Lake
and
is
that
something
we
could
think
about
or
should
think
about.
D
Our
aquifers
are
actually
alive
and
well
so,
while
we
have
a
sole
source
from
the
Big
Sioux
that
contributes
to
our
water
levels,
we
are
constantly
inundated
with
our
groundwater
and
the
aquifers
underneath
the
lake.
So
you
know,
we've
we've
talked
a
lot
about
dredging
and
you
bring
up
actually
a
pretty
good
point.
We
could
close
it
off
drain,
try
to
drain
the
lake
and
just
mechanically,
remove
sediment
too,
but
that's
not
going
to
help
you
with
your
tourism
for
a
short
period
of
time,
but
the
aquifers
are
alive
and
well.
I.
H
Sorry
councilman:
this
is
one
of
my
favorite
subjects.
How
long
would
you
like
me
to
go?
Lake
Camp
Asaka
sits
directly
in
aquifer
material.
We
can
go
into
the
history
of
that,
if
you
like,
but
to
physically
drain
the
lake
at
the
water
levels
that
we
are
in
the
ground
right
now
would
be
impossible,
even
blocking
it
off
and
starting
to
pump.
There's
enough
water
coming
in
fast
enough
through
the
ground
to
keep
up
with
any
pumping
system
records
from
the
the
old
water
treatment
plant.
H
A
Have
a
study
that
was
done
by
the
lake
Connecticut
Water
Project
district,
which
looked
at
the
springs
in
the
best
location
to
do
dredging
would
be
on
the
you
know,
upstream
side
where
the
springs
are
more
prevalent
and
lowering
fruit,
so
to
speak,
less
sediment
and
get
more
bang
for
the
buck.
If
we
did
selective
dredging
other
questions,
councilman.
E
Hoyer
we're
just
kind
of
wondering
again
on
the
selective
dredging
just
to
clarify.
We
would
absolutely
have
to
do
those
weird
modifications,
essentially
so
that
we
don't
get
more
because
I'm.
The
concern,
of
course,
is
that
if
you
do
the
dredging,
how
long
is
it
gonna
be
before
it
fills
back
in?
Because
if
we
don't
address
the
root
problem,
we're
just
buying
time
right
according.
H
E
Well,
I
guess
and
then
with
the
hope,
because
I
mean
that's
actually
not
as
intense
in
some
ways
as
I
guess
as
I
thought.
So
if
we
did
the
selective
dredging
would
that
give
us
basically
an
opportunity
to
maybe
increase
some
of
those
more
commercial
opportunities
with
fishing
and
such
so
that
maybe
we
can
start
generating
a
little
more
funding
to
it
so
that
we
could
possibly
start
tackling
some
of
these
bigger
issues
around
it.
That.
D
Is
definitely
a
viable
option,
the
cost
of
raising
the,
where
is
actually
not
exorbitant
at
all.
It's
there's
still
studies
that
need
to
be
done.
Inundation
studies
to
make
sure
that
we
are
not
negatively
impacting
anybody.
We
feel
pretty
safe,
recommending
that
you
put
it
at
the
10-year
flow
about
elevation.
Originally,
it
was
designed
to
be
at
that
elevation
and
then
last
minute
it
got
changed
so
to
two
foot
lower
than
it
is
so
I'll.
Let
the
mayor
the.
G
A
Will
have
to
say,
though,
the
ordinary
high
water
level
is
affected
by
a
man-made
structures.
So
the
DNR
knows
that
they
recognize
that
I
suppose
the
attitudes
could
possibly
change
yep
through
time
and
I.
I
do
think
it's
worthwhile
to
try
and
pursue
that
and
see
and
what
it
would
take
to
be
able
to
change
that,
because
I
agree
completely
that
we
would
get
the
most
bang
for
the
buck
in
doing
that,
and
we
were
bitterly
disappointed
to
be
told
we
had
to
lower
that
way
or
to
feed.
A
C
A
Council
will
adopt
it
formally
and
we
will
incorporate
it
into
the
revision
of
our
comprehensive
plan
for
our
community,
and
hopefully
we
will
be
using
this
for
years
to
come
as
a
guide
on
how
to
spend
money
and
how
much
to
budget.
How
much
do
we
need
to
set
aside
to
do
certain
things?
Oh
you're
welcome?
Is
there
any
old
business
see
none
any
new
business?