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Public Works, Finance & Safety Committee Meeting - 11-02-2020
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Dear
heavenly
father,
thank
you
on
behalf
of
all
who
are
gathered
here
tonight.
Thank
you
for
your
many
and
abundant
blessings
upon
our
community.
Thank
you
for
life
itself,
the
ability
to
serve
where
called
and
for
the
responsibilities
you
delegate
to
those
appointed,
please
be
with
the
council
tonight
as
they
look
into
tough
issues
and
try
to
make
decisions
best
for
our
community.
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No
all
right!
Thank
you.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
public
comment
period,
and
this
is
time
reserved
for
anyone
who
would
like
to
make
a
public
comment
to
step
forward
and
do
so
if
you're
online,
please
just
say,
request
permission
to
speak
and
state
your
name.
Is
there
anyone
that
would
like
to
speak.
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It's
estimated
to
result
in
over
2.7
million
dollars
in
incremental
value
over
the
course
of
over
the
course
of
20
years,
and
one
other
note,
there
is
some
ongoing
discussions
about
some
financing
related
to
this
project,
and
so
the
developers
agreement
will
not
be
approved
as
part
of
this
action.
It
will
come
forward
at
a
separate
time
to
be
approved
separately.
A
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Nope
chris
shilkin
watertown
development
company,
thanks
for
moving
the
agenda
item
up
matt
thanks
for
the
overview
it's
been
a
while.
I
think
this
was
approved
in
april.
I
believe
at
the
plan
commission
so
here
for
any
questions
on
the
plan
itself
or
and
of
course,
jesse's
here
to
answer
any
questions
on
the
project
which
I
know
the
demolition
started.
So
far.
The
houses
are
gone
and
just
here
for
any
questions
you
guys
might
have.
I
Yes,
hi.
Thank
you
again
for
moving
this
up
on
the
agenda.
A
little
bit
of
a
jaunt
home,
yeah,
72,
plex
apartment
complex,
is
55
and
older.
We
have
over
20
people
on
a
waiting
list
already
for
it.
We
did
do
all
the
demolition,
all
the
site,
prep
things
of
that
nature.
Civil
plans
are
finalized,
so
we're
just
bidding
out.
The
excavation
precast
is
already
ordered.
I
All
the
cement's
already
ordered.
All
of
that
stuff
will
house
a
12,
000
square
foot
senior
center,
so
we're
just
finishing
up
the
plans
working
with
the
restaurant
equipment
manufacturer
to
help
lay
out
the
plans
with
architect
terry
stroll,
so
we
just
got
the
final
plans
done
on
that
today.
So
they're
pretty
excited.
The
senior
center
is
about
being
able
to
lay
out
that
that
whole
floor
plan
for
themselves.
So
it
should
be
a
really
fun
project.
I
think
it'll
bring
a
lot
to
the
community.
It's
a
great
location,
so
excited
for
it.
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There
probably
should
be
a
amended
motion
to
include
approval
of
the
plan,
it's
approval
of
the
boundaries
which
have
already
been
approved.
So
at
the
end
of
the
day,
both
the
plan
commission
and
the
council
pass
on
both
of
those
items,
the
boundaries,
as
well
as
the
plan
itself,
and
so
I
would
suggest
maybe
a
modified
motion
to
include
approval
of
the
plan,
as
well
as
the
boundaries.
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J
I'll
second,
that,
okay,
okay,
thanks
for
addressing
that
again,
this
particular
case,
the
city
is
purely
a
conduit
for
those
dollars.
In
other
words,
there's
no
city
outlay
being
put
up
up
front
for
this
tip,
I've
seen
nodding
from
jesse
and
chris.
So
that's
what
the
document
read
reads
as
well,
so.
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Okay,
thank
you,
jesse
three
different
questions
for
you
regarding
this
project,
the
first
one
with
the
senior
center
moving
in
there,
the
furnishings
will
the
senior
center
be
responsible
for
furnishing
their
facility
meals
on
wheels?
Will
they
be
responsible
for
furnishing
the
kitchen
equipment
and
then
the
senior
center,
the
utilities?
Will
the
city
pay?
The
utilities
will
the
senior
center
as
they
do
now,
pay
their
utilities
or
will
generations
pay
the
utilities
for
their
property.
I
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I
Serving
windows,
things
of
that
nature,
we'll
do
all
the
plumbing
all
the
electrical,
all
the
lighting,
all
the
windows,
all
of
that
stuff.
They
are
going
to
be
able
to
move
their
tables
and
chairs
over,
and
I
think
they're
working
with
icap
and
as
far
as
working
together
on
whether
they're
going
to
do
a
grant
for
the
remainder
of
that,
if
they
still
feel
they
need
it
and
then
same
with
the
kitchen
equipment.
Icap
is
responsible
for
that.
I
offered
to
help
with
that,
but
they
would
rather
do
it.
I
Of
course
there's
no
lawn,
but
you
know
they
never
have
to
worry
about
a
roof,
or
you
know
replacing
windows
or
anything
like
that.
So
a
lot
of
that
will
be
eliminated,
so
the
money
they
make
off
of
bingo
or
dances,
or
things
like
that.
They
can
actually
put
you
know
to
capital
expenditures
or
things
they
want
to
actually
improve
on
like
if
they
want
to
buy
another
pool
table,
because
they've
got
two
now
and
there's
room
for
three
in
the
new
space
and
things
of
that
nature
if
they
can
get
it
donated.
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Yes,
thank
you,
madam
mayor,
as
introduced
at
the
first
reading.
This
is
an
ordinance
amendment
to
chapter
21
of
the
city
code,
which
is
the
zoning
ordinance.
This
particular
section
relates
to
landscaping
and
lighting
requirements
for
any
development
within
our
community
and
sharing
my
screen
with
you
here
and
we'll
walk
through
some
of
the
details.
It's
really
a
pretty
simple
addition
to
this
section
of
the
ordinance
that
creates
a
requirement
or
clarifies.
M
We
also
have
language
in
here
that
accounts
for
that
to
offer
up
to
an
eight-month
extension
if
seasonal
limitations
are
encountered
at
the
last
meeting.
I
will
touch
on
this
question
that
came
up
is
whether
this
language,
in
this
chapter
of
ordinance,
would
be
retroactive
retroactively,
enforceable
after
further
review
with
staff
and
with
city
attorney
matt
roby
throughout
the
last
couple
weeks.
M
What
we
were
proposing
to
do
is
keep
this
language,
as
is
in
this
section
of
ordinance
that
addresses
the
requirements
for
here,
moving
forward
on
new
construction
and
having
it
inspected
at
the
time
of
the
cos
being
issued.
But
then
also
take
a
step
further
and
looking
at,
I
believe
it
was
chapter
11
that
we
would
look
at
amending
as
far
as
a
nuisance
and
maintenance
type
of
ordinance
update
that
could
be
then
retroactively
applied
anywhere
throughout
the
community
under
a
nuisance
type
of
ordinances
in
chapter
11..
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M
Absolutely
thank
you
again
mayor
this.
This
topic
was
discussed.
It's
been
a
handful
of
meetings
ago
now,
where
our
consultant
ae2s
presented
their
recommendations
and
findings
that
have
previously
been
discussed
with
this
utility
rate
committee
that
we
also
had
established
within
the
city
which
included
a
couple
few
city,
council
members
and
several
staff
members
and
the
the
study
that
a
2s
performed,
of
course
related
to
both
solid
waste
landfill
operations,
but
also
the
wastewater
operations.
I'll
note
that
this
resolution
that
we're
on
right
now
20-49
is
specific
to
the
solid
waste
services.
M
Ryan
graf
with
82
s
is,
is
here
to
discuss
this
and
I'll
hand
it
over
to
him
he's
going
to
give
the
council
a
brief
update,
kind
of
along
the
same
lines
of
the
information
that
was
shared
here
several
weeks
back
just
as
a
brief
refresher,
and
then
we
could
definitely
help
answer
any
questions
and
talk
through
any
of
the
scenarios
and
comparatives.
As
far
as
what
these
proposed
rates
look
like
in
comparison
to
what
they're
at
right
now
today.
K
As
heath
said,
we
have
worked
extensively
with
the
the
city
to
get
to
this
point
and
we
really
do
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
work
with
you
to
help
set
your
financial
plan
for
your
utilities
and
incorporate
that
into
the
new
rates
for
for
your
community.
Just
as
a
brief
refresher,
the
study
was
took
about.
K
Oh,
I
think
it
started
in
about
march
and
we
really
wrapped
up
kind
of
the
end
of
our
april
and
wrapped
up
the
end
of
august,
as
kevin
smith
was
previously
here
to
present
to
the
working
session.
There
was
really
good
engagement
with
city
staff.
I
really
appreciate
a
lot
of
the
feedback
that
we
got
along
the
way
and
it
really
helped
to
make
sure
that
we
had
a
high
quality
outcome
for
you
as
a
community.
K
On
top
of
that,
we
did
look
long
term
for
your
utilities,
looking
out
over
the
next
10
years
on
what
it
really
meant
for
what
they
they
needed
to
accomplish
and
what
was
on
the
horizon
as
far
as
capital
and
other
expenses
to
make
sure
that
as
a
community,
the
the
rate
plan
would
be
enough.
That
we
recommended
would
be
enough
to
meet
those
challenges.
K
But
it's
looking
at
on
the
solid
waste
side
you
see
on
the
bottom,
there
residential
collections,
increasing
by
a
dollar
a
month
recommendation
and
in
2021
and
then
another
dollar
a
month
in
2022,
and
so
it's
a
standard
fee
would
be
about
1250.
from
there.
It
was
also
determined
that
the
municipal
solid
waste
tipping
fee
and
you
were
just
to
be
clear.
K
A
M
Yeah
ryan
mike's
on
the
phone
too,
but
essentially
what
that
is,
is
a
specific
kind
of
solid
waste
in
relation
to
the
license
that
we
hold
from
the
state
and
and
how
it's
regulated
and
mike
would
have
a
lot
more
in-depth
knowledge
on
what
subtitle
d
waste
includes.
But
generally
it's
a
certain
category
waste
and
it
covers
quite
a
breath
of
material
that
we
accepted
the
landfill.
Okay.
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L
I
want
to
make
certain
that
we
are
only
voting
upon
the
increase
today,
like
let's
say
the
residential
collection
month
of
of
a
dollar,
because
in
the
proposal
it
says
then
another
dollar
the
next
year
and
another
dollar
the
following
year,
and
I
think
that
goes
on
for
five
years
in
the
actual
presentation
on
the
graph
and
then
it
suggested
lower
increases
every
year.
Subsequent
to
that-
and
I
just
want
to
make
absolutely
certain
that
we
are
only
voting
on
this
particular
year
and
next
year,
if
we
want
to
increase
it.
M
Yes,
absolutely
the
resolution
before
the
council
tonight
is
in
relation
specifically
to
2021's
rates,
so
you
are
correct
that
it
is
only
accounting
for
the
dollar
increase
for
2021
and
then
the
other
subsequent
tipping
fee
increases
for
2021.
and
then
in
order
to
follow
the
plan.
Of
course,
staff
would
bring
forth
the
same
recommendation
in
subsequent
years
to
the
councils
that
are
present
at
that
time.
L
Which,
I
think,
is
good,
because
that
way,
based
upon
how
the
economy
changes,
city
finances
change,
we
can
have
a
separate
conversation
at
that
time,
but
at
this
time
I
don't
see
any
problem
with
this
increase.
It
has
been
a
long
time
coming.
I
just
heath.
Perhaps
you
could
explain
to
the
public
that
some
of
this
money
is
going
to
the
reserves
so
that
the
so
that
we
are
prepared
to
deal
with
things
as
they
come
along
in
the
future.
M
Yes,
thank
you
for
that.
Councilman
helene,
the
one
of
the
points
of
the
discussion
that
we
had
that
the
consultants
brought
up
and
ryan.
You
can
maybe
expand
this
a
little
bit
more
too,
but
it
was.
It
was
obvious
to
them
and
apparent
to
them
that
the
need
for
having
more
cash
on
hand,
more
reserves
built
up
for
different
types
of
projects
and
needs
at
whether
it
be
the
the
landfill
or
on
the
wastewater
side,
at
the
wastewater
treatment
facility
and
and
in
discussions
with
our
finance
officer,
kristen
bobsien.
E
Thank
you
mayor.
This
question
is
for
ryan.
How
did
we
compare
with
other
places,
or
how
did
you
come
up
with
these
plans
to
go
up
a
dollar
on
residential?
You
know,
I'm
just
wondering
how
does
watertown
compare
with
maybe
cities
around
us
or
how
did
you
come
up
with
this?
Well,
there
you
go.
Thank
you.
A
K
Down
at
the
bottom,
just
to
be
to
be
clear,
we
do
set
rates
based
on
the
technical
need
of
your
community,
okay,
where
looking
out
across
the
items
that
you
do
need
to
fund
whether
it's
new
compactors
at
the
bailing
facility
or
new
trucks.
Things
like
that
right,
the
the
day-to-day
things
that
need
to
be
funded
to
make
sure
that
your
your
system
and
your
solid
waste
collections,
for
example,
are
operating
at
the
level.
K
They
need
to
operate
to
make
sure
your
residents
don't
see
so
that
the
downside
does
to
service
are
rare.
If
ever
they
happen.
That
being
said,
we
do
understand
that
it
doesn't
happen
in
a
vacuum
right
and
you
are
still
very
competitive.
As
far
as
solid
waste
residential
rates
go
throughout
south
dakota.
M
On
the
sump
pump,
those
specifics
accounts
milan.
We
will
talk
about
those
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
in
in
the
wastewater
resolution,
which
is
two
items
down
the
list
here,
but
to
your
question:
there's
currently
not
a
sump
pump
fee
for
connection
or
use
of
the
system
that
we
allow
for
an
ordinance
right
now
now
mike,
could
you
chime
in?
Are
we
collecting
a
permit
application
fee
at
the
current
time.
N
L
Thanks
mayor,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
something:
there
was
a
little
bit
of
miscommunication
going
around
social
media
today
in
watertown
we
are
not
talking
about
stormwater
utility
fees,
utilities
or
anything
like
that.
That
was
perhaps
a
mistake
done
there.
This
is
a
specific
issue
and
then,
as
far
as
like
the
sump
pumps
go,
that
is
going
to
be
a
separate
issue.
So
just
it's
easy
to
get
them
all
mixed
up,
but
we
are
taking
them
one
at
a
time.
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A
All
right,
thank
you.
Ryan,
hang
tight.
We
got
a
we
slipped
a
different
item
in
here
between
years.
So
the
next
item
is
approval
of
resolution
number
20-52
for
the
refunding
of
the
wastewater
revenue,
bonds,
state
revolving
fund
loan
number,
nine
waste
water
department
motion
by
holine
and
a
second
by
hoya
and
I'll.
Ask
kristen
to
tell
us
about
this.
B
Thank
you
mayor.
It
seems
like
this
is
the
season
of
refunding
I'm
bringing
one
more
forward.
This
would
actually
be
to
refund
our
srf
loan
number
nine,
which
was
the
headworks
project
for
the
wastewater
there's
currently
about
6.8
million
dollars
worth
of
debt
left.
It
is
set
to
come
due
in
2031,
so
what
we
would
be
doing
is
we
would
be
refinancing
the
loan
basically
paying
that
off
and
then
issuing
our
own
bonds.
For
that
I
have
received
authorization
from
the
state
dna
denr
to
proceed.
B
B
B
A
F
F
B
G
G
G
A
J
M
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
This
is,
of
course,
the
wastewater
utility
rate
version
of
what
we
just
discussed
in
comparison
to
the
solid
waste
and
landfill
rates,
so
the
wastewater
rates
effectively
are
implemented
towards
residential
users,
commercial
users
and
what
we
have
known
as
significant
industrial
users
and
then
also
incorporated
in
our
rate
proposals
that
we'll
touch
on
is
a
newly
proposed
sump
pump
variance
fee.
M
K
K
M
K
Yeah
so
again,
you
are
still
very
competitive
on
utility
bills,
even
with
the
proposed
rate
change
where
your
residential
rate
will
still
be
at.
I
guess
the
the
top
of
the
chart,
which
is
actually
the
lowest
end,
need
for
your
community
to
be
able
to
tackle
that.
A
lot
of
that
is
due
to
the
the
good
management
where
mike
and
his
team
have
really
been
able
to
do
quite
a
bit
over
the
years
to
keep
you
running
as
efficiently
as
possible.
E
K
Yeah,
I
I'll
take
a
first
stab
at
that,
so
as
part
of
that-
and
I
don't
have
the
regional
comparison
for
that
up-
there
aren't
as
many
communities
that
allow
some
pump
discharges
into
their
system
because
of
the
additional
costs
that
that
does
bring
to
the
treatment
plan
and
the
the
capacity
it
takes
away
from
your
industrial
users.
Your
homeowners
as
you're,
looking
to
make
sure
that
you
are
effectively
treating
the
the
sewage
for
your
your
community
throughout
the
region.
A
L
L
D
Thank
you
bear
first
of
all,
just
for
full
disclosure.
I
am
one
of
the
people
that
has,
for
a
number
of
years
got
and
gotten
the
variance
to
pump
sump
water
in
the
sewer
during
those
months,
I'm
okay
with
this
charging
fee.
In
fact,
I
think
we
should
charge
a
fee
for
this.
The
only
public
comment
I've
gotten
was,
it
seemed
a
little
steep.
I
did
get
that
from
some
people,
but
I
guess
I
would
throw
out
a
question
to
those
that
were
involved
and
this
got
discussed.
D
J
Don
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
was
one
of
them
and
beth
you
can
chime
in
anytime.
You
you
and
I
representing
the
council
on
this
committee.
We
struggled
with
this.
We
knew
it
was
going
to
be
a
bone
of
contention,
no
matter
what
we
did
starting
from
zero
to
whatever
we
would
propose
mike.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
I
think
you
threw
out
a
figure.
You
figured
cost
the
city
about
300
000
a
year
to
treat
this
water
in
a
typical
year.
Am
I
in
the
ballpark
on
that
mike.
J
Estimated
so
so
the
feeling
was,
we
wanted
to
attempt
to
recapture
some
of
that.
We
we
and
we
wanted
to
make
the
fiat
and
we
had
proposed.
There
was
a
proposal
for
a
much
higher
fee
actually
to
be
proposed.
I
think
we
felt
that
would
never.
That
would
go
over
like
a
lead
balloon
with
the
rest
of
us
on
the
council
as
well
as
the
public,
but
we
also
wanted
to
make
it
something
that
would
be
a
little
bit
painful.
J
A
C
People
know
about
the
downside
of
people
just
going
ahead
and
putting
their
sump
water
back
out
into
the
street
and
then
creating
a
nuisance,
and
so
that
was
taken
into
account
as
well,
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
part
of
that
discussion
was
that
we
wanted
to
encourage
people
to
do
what
was
right
on
their
landscaping,
if
possible,
to
make
sure
that
we
were
constructing
basements
or
properties
with
you
know,
so
that
they
weren't
below
the
groundwater
level
some
of
those
kind
of
things.
So
this
is
also
to
encourage
good
habits.
C
If
you
want
to
call
it
that
are
good
practices
by
not
only
the
community
and
the
citizens,
but
the
protecting
is
extremely
expensive
and
a
big
drain
on
our
system
to
process
all
that
clean
water
in
the
wastewater
treatment.
And
so
I
think
people
need
to
understand
that
the
influx
of
water
that
we
have
is
breaking
down
our
system
faster
and
and
remember
that
this
is
a
entire
season.
This
includes
the
application
fee
and
the
monthly
fee.
So
when
you
break
it
down
like
that,
it's
not
very
expensive.
A
Excellent
recap:
councilwoman,
and
I
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out
that
when
you
do
have
a
sump
pump
that
runs
steadily
the
amount
of
clean
water
that
you
discharge
to.
The
sanitary
sewer
system
is
astronomically
larger
than
the
amount
of
waste
you
actually
discharge
to
the
sewer
system,
so
we're
cleaning
lots
and
lots
of
clean
water,
but
once
it
mixes
in
with
the
sewage.
Obviously
it's
all
dirty
and
it
all
gets
pumped
numerous
times.
If
you
are
in
a
part
of
town
that
has
lift
stations
like
at
the
lake.
I
A
N
Well,
I
would
say
that,
yes,
it's
in
some
cases,
if
we've
already
inspected
the
property
and
we
know
the
configuration
of
their
self-pumping
piping
system,
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
go
out,
but
with
a
lot
of
these
people
have
called
in,
they
have
never
been
inspected.
So
then,
many
of
them
that
we
do
go
out
and
do
an
inspection
before
we
will
issue
it.
D
Thank
you
mayor
just
a
couple
additional
points
when
we
had
the
high
water
going
on
a
couple
of
years
ago,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
we
put
out
a
plea
to
people
to
stop
putting
make
sure
you're
not
putting
sump
water
down
the
system,
because
we
have
the
potential
overwhelming
our
system.
Is
that
an
accurate
recollection.
D
D
I
I
kind
of
look
at
this
and
again
I'm
going
to
be
one
of
the
people
that
are
paying
this,
but
if
it
it's
going
to
str,
we
stress
our
system
by
pumping
this
down.
That
will
shortens
the
lives
of
our
equipment,
we
use
our
pumps
more
etc,
and
then,
when
we
have
to
upgrade
that
stuff,
everybody
in
the
city
gets
to
pay,
for.
I
think,
when
you
got
kind
of
unique
situation
like
this,
where
we
have
the
option
to
put
that
in
the
sewer
system.
D
A
F
Think
we're
kind
of
touching
on
it,
but
I'd
like
to
get
to
mike
on
it
a
little
bit,
but
just
thinking
about
that
down
the
line
part
because
right
now,
what
do
we
hit
mike
for
capacity
like
when
we
had
that
really
wet
year?
What
was
the
worst
we
got
on
our
capacity.
Do
you
know
percentage-wise
how
full
we
were.
N
N
We
had
estimated
that
that,
based
upon
the
number
of
housings
and
an
estimated
number
of
people
per
house
that
there
there
should
have
been
somewhere
around
100,
125,
000
gallons
a
day
coming
out
of
that
neighborhood
and
they
were
475,
000
gallons
a
day
coming
out
of
that
neighborhood
and
then,
as
we
remove
those
sump
pumps,
we
we
dropped
that
we
dropped
that
flow
down.
I
think
three
hundred
thousand
three
hundred
fifty
thousand
even
more
towards
two
hundred
dollars
to
two
hundred
the
two
hundred
thousand.
It
was
yeah.
F
So
I
guess
my
point
with
that
is
that
as
a
community,
I
don't
foresee
us
getting
smaller.
I
think
we're
going
to
just
continue
to
grow,
so
we
need
to
be
looking
at
some
good
practices
down
the
line
with
this.
I
think
this
is
part
of
that.
Just
making
sure
that
we
don't
overwhelm
that
system,
because
we
are
going
to
need
to
expand
at
some
point,
but
we
can
get
a
lot
more
mileage
out
of
our
overall
system.
I
would
feel
if
we
can
manage
this
a
little
better
right
now.
F
A
M
But
we've
had
in
place
that
we're
maybe
more
cognizant
of
as
of
lately.
One
of
them
being.
You
know
making
sure
that
the
lowest
finish
floor.
Elevation
is
at
least
two
feet
above
the
groundwater
elevation.
That
goes
a
long
way
in
the
right
direction
of
eliminating
or
reducing
these.
These
sump
pump
flows
into
our
system,
and
then
you
know
the
other
discussion
talking
points
we've
been
having
are
the
implementation
of
sump
collection
systems
where
it
does
give
homeowners
a
location
to
to
pump
these
two
and,
of
course,
there's
seasonal
limitations.
K
I
did
just
check
heath
and
there
is
no
language
on
the
fine
within
the
resolution
and
if
I
remember
the
discussion
correctly
from
a
few
months
back,
it
had
to
do
with
how
the
fine
is
actually
levied
through
the
the
judicial
process
and
it
where
I
think
it
it's
up
to
the
judge
himself
him
or
herself
to
to
make
the
final
fine.
But
I
could
stand
correct
with
that.
G
This
is
marcy
ryan.
You
are
correct.
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
matt
at
the
time
we
were
going
through
the
process
with
the
committee
and
it
is
through
the
judicial
process,
but
it
also
has
somewhat
to
do
with
our
ordinances,
and
so
there
may
be
a
change
coming
up
with
our
ordinances
in
relation
to
the
sump
pump
charge
in
the
future.
We
just
needed
some
more
time
to
research
it,
along
with
talking
with
matt.
I
needed
to
do
some
more
detailed
items.
G
E
Thanks
mayor,
I
kind
of
agree
with
councilman
hollen
on
this:
it's
it's
not
that
I
don't
think
we
should
have
a
fee
on
there,
but
I
think
the
charging
going
from
zero
to
125,
maybe
ryan,
had
it
right
on
earlier
when
he
said
we'd
start
with
a
dollar
increase
and
go
to
one
the
next
year
and
won
the
next.
Maybe
in
this
case
you
go
with
50
for
the
first
year
and
60
or
70..
E
N
Last
year
adam
we
issued
515
variances
and
this
year
today,
as
of
today
this
morning
we
were
at
254,
but
they
were
still
incoming
as
the
day
goes
on.
But
if
you
take
a
look
at
last
year,
the
515
variances
issued
and
if
you
applied
that
fee
to
them
it
generated
about
it,
would
have
generated
about
64
000
64
000,
a
little
bit
more
than
that
which
is
about
one-fifth
of
the
cost
of
treating
that
water
last
year.
I'd
say
approximately
just
ball
parking.
I
Yeah
and
the
question
I
have
especially
right
now
and
I
didn't
have
constituents
reach
out
to
me
just
you
know,
they're
on
they're,
literally
on
disability
and
they're.
You
know
another
hundred
dollars
is
frankly
it's
a
lot
for
them,
but
you
know
that
that's
a
concern
I
have
as
well.
You
know
it's,
it's
not
going
to
be
enough
to
cover
our
costs
by
any
stretch
the
imagination.
C
But
if
we
don't
start
now,
we're
not
going
to
get
the
impact
that
we
want
in
terms
of
changing
practices,
changing
habits,
starting
to
offset
some
of
the
costs
we
have
directly
and
also
long
term
when
we
have
to
replace
and
repair
equipment
which
then
goes
on
to
the
entire
community,
not
just
the
users
of
it
and
and
then
strike
that
balance
with
not
having
people
discharge
into
the
streets.
So
so
there's
a
lot
of
wheels.
C
This
was
sort
of
a
back
down
for
the
very
reasons
everybody's
talking
about
in
terms
of
impact
on
financially
and
those
types
of
things.
But
if
you
look
at
other
communities
who
even
allow
this
practice,
some
don't
allow
it,
we
they
all
charge
a
fee.
So
it's
just
something
that
maybe
we
have
to
work
with
the
individuals
here
and
there
that
may
need
some
assistance,
but
put
the
cost
directly
to
the
users
of
it
and
then
offset
just
a
little
bit
remind
you.
C
This
is
not
going
to
do
anything
to
have
a
huge
offset
for
the
individuals
who
actually
use
it
and
to
heath's
point
about
talking
about
the
sump
pump
collection
points,
and
things
like
that.
Perhaps
we
look
at
this
as
another
way
to
contribute
to
that
fund
to
be
able
to
put
those
into
neighborhoods
that
really
need
them
that
are
existing
and
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
redo
their
road
or
their
landscaping.
C
D
Just
wanted
to
add
that
45
of
the
system-
that's
that's
being
treated
in
our
system
in
2019,
was
from
and
not
from
sewer
flows.
That's
a
shocking
number
to
me.
That
means
our
equipment
is
going
to
wear
out
a
a
lot
faster
and
we're
going
to
have
to
re
there's
more
repairs.
We
have
to
replace
equipment
fact
faster.
D
K
So
when
we
looked
at
your
data,
it
was
it
averaged
or
it
was
between
a
15
in
kind
of
dry
years
or
average
what
years
in
it
up
to
the
45
or
so
in
the
2019
about
10
percent
of
so
of
the
15
right,
so
10
of
the
flows
or
so
are
about
what
we
attribute
to
kind
of
your
general
collection
system
as
opposed
to
discharges
into
it.
And
that
is
a
very
good
number
from
kind
of
industry.
Standard
approaches.
D
F
I
guess
for
me
on
this
issue:
I've
heard
this
rhetoric
before
on
the
council
and
I
guess
I
would
lean
on
it
here.
We
tasked
many
individuals
to
take
part
in
this
committee.
They
did
a
lot
of
heavy
lifting
and
a
lot
of
thinking
on
it.
So
for
me
personally,
I'm
going
to
trust
their
judgment
on
this
that
they
discuss
this
at
length.
They've
already
mentioned,
they
backed
it
down
from
a
number
that
was
originally
thrown
out,
which
would
have
been
pretty
rough
looking
at
it,
and
this
is
already
backing
it
down.
J
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
comment,
michael
being
one
of
those
on
the
committee.
I've
already
said
my
piece
beth,
you
very
eloquently
summarize
it
again
just
recently,
but
I
do
want
to
clarify
one
thing.
This
is
this
would
not
go
into
effect
until
october
of
2021.,
so
it's
not
as
all
of
a
sudden
we're
gonna
be
foisting
this
additional
fee
on
residents
immediately.
There
is
a
year
before
it
would
go
into
effect.
L
Thank
you
mayor
two
questions
and
then
I'll
make
my
motion
and
so
that
we
can
move
on
because
there's
other
parts
to
this
proposal
that
are
good,
that
aren't
getting
the
discussion,
but
we
can
put
the
sump
pumps
part
of
some
pump
part
of
it
behind
us
mike.
Do
you
have
you
listed
off
515
homeowners
who
applied
for
the
permit?
Do
you
have
any
idea
how
many
people
are
doing
it
currently
without
a
permit?
L
No,
we
did
not
okay
and
then
the
question
of
enforcement
has
come
up.
How
is
this
enforced?
Currently,
how
do
you?
How
does
anyone
envision
this
coming
being
enforced?
I
mean,
I
understand
the
fines,
but
in
order
to
get
to
a
fine
first,
you
have
to
find
someone
doing
it
and,
as
far
as
I
know,
that
means
going
into
someone's
house.
A
L
A
N
Yeah
yeah
how
we
identify
these
is
when
these
fl
do
you
see
the
flows
come
in.
You
know
the
water,
you
know
the
water
is
coming
in
and
then
we
go
down
those
those
sewers
with
the
camber
system,
and
we
see
a
house
pump
in
clear
water,
we'll
sit
there
and
stop
you'll
see
a
sump
pump.
You
know
it
it
kicks
in
it
pumps
down
the
little
sump
and
then
it
stops
pumping
well
well,
while
some
fills
again,
then
it
goes
to
a
cycle.
N
It's
pretty
easy
to
identify
them,
and
so
what
we
do
is
the
first
time
offenders
that
the
first
time
that
we've
observed
this
at
a
residence.
We
send
them
a
certified
letter.
That
does
not
have
a
fine
involved
in
it
and
we
let
them
know
that
that
is
in
violation
of
the
ordinance
and
that
it's
not
permitted
and
that
they
need
to
get
out
of
the
sewer.
L
Thank
you
mike
actually
excellent
job.
I
want
to
commend
you.
I
mean,
I
think,
that
you
and
your
team
have
been
doing
fantastic
work
across
the
board.
There's
been
good
work
on
this
proposal,
so
I
like
that
aspect
of
it
that
you
can
do
it
without
undue
intrusion
into
people's
lives
or
houses,
so
good
job
on
that.
L
With
that
said,
just
to
put
the
sump
pump
issue
behind
us,
I
don't
think
that
there's
any
council
member
against
the
idea
of
the
of
the
expense
or
the
variance,
but
it
is
just
a
matter
to
the
degree
so
with
that
said,
I
will
make
a
motion
to
change
the
125
dollar
fee
down
to
a
50
fee
and
part
of
my
argument.
I
guess
I
could
just
just
make
that
motion
and
wait
to
see
if
it
gets
a
second.
L
Thank
you
mayor.
I
just
think
that
the
jump
while
it
has
been
explained.
I
understand
that
it's
still
a
shock
to
the
homeowners,
these
homeowners,
who
have
the
non-stop
sump
pump
going
throughout
the
year.
I
have
enough
sympathy
for
them
as
it
is.
I
mean
they've
got
issues
that
they're
dealing
with
in
their
own
basements,
and
I
don't
want
to
make
any
of
our
citizens
criminals
by
having
a
fee
that
makes
them
balk
until
we
come
back
and
enforce
it.
L
L
F
L
F
L
D
I
A
F
F
If
we
look
into
it,
can
we
just
see
if
there
is
something
out
there
and
then,
if
there's
not,
maybe
we
come
back
to
the
table
and
start
seeing
if
there
is
anything
that
can
be
created
or
looked
into?
I
guess
because
I
I
agree,
I
mean
that's
for
someone
who's
really
barely
making
it
it's
tough
and
there's
already
utility
aid
out
there
for
others
in
other
ways.
So
I'm
just
curious
if
there
is
something
on
the
books
that
is
there
already
or
if
there's
something
we
may
be
looking
to.
G
B
G
J
But
my
concern
with
josh's
proposal
is:
you've
got
overlapping
years,
there's
going
to
be
coming
kind
of
a
bookkeeping,
hassle,
keeping
track
of
exactly
which
year
are
you
which,
which
year
is
that
monthly
payment
or
which
season
is
that
monthly
payment
being
applied
to
and
then
you've
got.
Then
you
got
the
issue
if
somebody
were
to
happen
to
to
move
or
leave
or
discontinue
or
to
go
to
different
residence
and
they're
still
an
unpaid
balance
from
a
previous
season.
I
I
just
see
the
monthly.
C
I
think
glenn
addressed
it
a
little
bit,
but
just
to
reinforce
the
idea
that
this
is
a
fee,
that's
paid
when
people
come
in
to
make
the
application
for
the
permit.
It's
it's,
not
a
billable
monthly
or
anything
like
that.
So
to
do
those
kinds
of
things
in
terms
of
utility
bills
or
monthly
billing
would
is
not
how
this
is
set
up
to
take
to
be
implemented
in
regards
to
assistance
for
people.
C
You
know,
I
think
we
could
spend
the
whole
night
talking
about
ways
that
people
could
be
assisted,
and
I
would
like
to
pursue
that,
but
I
think,
for
the
sake
of
you
know,
as
michael
said,
we
did
put
a
lot
of
time
into
this.
All
of
the
things
we're
discussing
tonight
had
been
discussed,
and
this
was
what
we
came
up
as
our
our
recommendation.
C
C
A
A
B
F
J
B
J
A
F
F
C
E
E
A
M
So
if
anybody
would
want
to
reference
this,
we
do
prohibit
sump
dump
sump
pump
discharges
from
being
channeled
to
our
sanitary
sewer
system,
with
exception
for
in
17603,
we
do
grant
variances
and
that's
ex.
I
just
wanted
to
show
this
for
the
public's
knowledge
on
where
this
is
at
in
ordinance,
so
that
they
add
some
context
to
the
discussion
here.
A
L
L
L
And
then,
with
that,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
something:
I've
had
a
couple
people,
I
think
another
misconception
that
was
out
there.
A
lot
of
people
thought
we
were
raising
that
fee
by
27
we're
not
it's
just
three
dollars
and
10
cents
up
to
about
the
27
range,
which
would
still
put
us
at.
Would
it
be
the
lowest
in
south
dakota,
if
not
the
lowest,
it
would
be
very,
very
low,
so
our
rates
would
still
be
quite
low,
showing
the
good
work
that
mike
and
his
crew
are
doing.
A
A
F
B
L
B
L
B
G
G
A
J
G
M
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
So,
as
the
council
is
aware,
we
have
adopted
new
engineering
design
standards.
They
went
to
effect
in
march
of
2020.
seems
like
it
was
longer
ago
than
that,
but
it's
already
been,
since
it's
just
been
since
march,
the
the
adopted
design
standards
allow
for
updates
and
modifications
from
time
to
time.
M
We
do
want
to
be
able
to
amend
these
from
time
to
time.
So
this
is
the
first
amendment
we're
proposing
it's
a
fairly
minor
one.
I
would
say
the
current
engineering
design
standards
do
have
some
guidance
for
rural
street
sections
now.
Rural
street
section,
of
course,
is
something
you
would
envision
out
in
in
rural
south
dakota,
and
it's
it's
essentially
a
street
section
with
a
surface
and
no
curb
and
gutter.
You
instead
have
your
your
ditches.
M
An
urban
street
section
on
the
contrary,
is
what
we
typically
would
see
in
any
developing
community,
where
you've
got
curb
and
gutter
installed
in
storm
sewer
systems
installed
to
convey
the
runoff.
So
that's
one
of
the
primary
differences
between
the
two,
our
urban
street
sections
require
paving
our
rural
street
sections
also
require
paving
of
either
asphalt
or
concrete,
and
what
we
wanted
to
expand
on
in
this
amendment
was
to
provide
a
typical
section
of
what
rural
street
section
would
look
like.
M
So
in
chapter
eight
of
our
design
standards,
we
talk
about
street
design
and
configurations,
and
we
have
we
have
information
in
there
for
typical
sections
for
urban
streets,
but
not
for
rural.
I
apologize
here
as
I
scroll
through
this
information.
There's
all
the
current
information
here
is
included
in
the
packets,
so
it's
a
little
bit
lengthy
until
we
get
to
the
some
of
the
amendments.
This
this
chart
right
here
is
really
what
drives
our
street
design
criteria.
M
There
we
go
so
the
minimum
rural
street
section
that's
allowed
in
our
design
standards
is
as
low
as
a
22
foot
wide
in
residential
areas.
You
get
up
into
a
commercial
industrial
for
local
street
classification,
those
are
24
feet
and
then
you
get
up
into
the
I'm
sorry
I'll
zoom
in
a
little
bit
more
here.
M
M
There's
some
language
in
the
notes
here
that
existed
previously,
that
rural
minor
collectors
shall
have
four
foot
paved
shoulders,
and
my
major
collectors
shall
have
eight
foot
paved
shoulders.
We
added
some
new
notes
that
real
sections
do
not
allow
parking
except
upon
approval
by
the
city
engineer
in
which
case
lanes
shall
be
minimum
of
eight
feet.
Wide
parking
lanes
shall
be
a
minimum
of
eight
feet
wide
and
then
rural
sections
may
require
additional
drainage
easements.
M
Those
right-of-way
widths
are
outlined
right
here
and
on
occasion,
this
66-foot
right
away
or
on
the
larger
streets,
the
80-foot
right
away
may
or
may
not
accommodate
the
ditch
section,
that's
required
to
convey
all
the
runoff,
so
you
may
end
up
having
surface
flows
from
rain
events
needing
a
larger,
ditch
section.
That
would
not
be
able
to
be
built
within
that
66
foot
right
away
anyway,
that's
what
the
drainage
easement
language
is
discussing.
M
The
other
point
wanted
to
make
here
is
that
as
far
as
sidewalks
rural
street
section
should
have
a
five
foot
detached
sidewalk
or
ten
foot
detached
pathway
on
one
side
with
access
points,
at
least
every
500
feet.
This
is
a
point
I
wanted
to
point
out
because,
of
course,
the
council.
This
is
just
recommendation
from
staff
that
we
thought
it'd
be
appropriate
to
have
sidewalk
on
at
least
one
side
of
a
rural
street
section
if
council
deemed
that
we
wanted
it
on
both.
M
These
are
existing
urban
street
sections.
You
have
the
pathway
or
sidewalk.
You
got
a
boulevard.
You
got
the
curb
and
gutter
you
have
the
paving
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
these
are
for
different
classifications.
Different
street
widths,
and
then
we
come
down
to
our
newly
proposed
rural
street
section.
M
So,
as
you
can
see,
once
you
get
to
the
edge
of
pavement,
things
look
different
on
a
rural
street
section
you
drop
into
a
drainage,
ditch
or
drainage
swale,
and
here's
where
we've
identified
a
five-foot
sidewalk
on
one
side.
So
it's
it's
a
little
less
than
conventional
to
build
a
sidewalk
next
to
or
adjacent
to
a
rural
street
section.
M
But
we
thought
that
we'd
start
here
as
a
talking
point,
and
we
would
of
course
want
to
see
that
built
up
off
the
the
back
slope
of
the
ditch
not
down
here
necessarily
unless
there
were
certain
circumstances
where
we'd
really
want
to.
But
I
would
want
to
avoid
that
at
most
all
costs
and
see
it
built
up
out
of
the
flow
line
of
the
ditch
sections.
M
But
this
is
the
general
section
that
we
came
up
with
to
allow
rural
to
to
help
clarify
how
rural
street
sections
should
be
designed
in
our
community.
So
again,
in
a
nutshell:
the
the
standards
allowed
for
real
street
sections.
It
doesn't
give
enough
detail
that
we
wanted
to
see
to
give
developers
guidance
on
what
those
should
look
like,
and
this
is
a
first
step
in
that
process.
The
next
step
that
I'll
touch
on
briefly
is
that
we
do
need
to
identify
where
we're
going
to
allow
rural
street
sections
according
to
our
ordinances.
M
A
M
M
Yes,
you're
right
813
starts
to
talk
more
in
detail
about
rural
street
standards
and
the
ash
toe
criteria.
The
american
association
of
state
highway
transportation
officials.
They
provide
some
guidance
on
design
of
rural
sections
that
we
would
also
refer
to
and
then
also
an
814,
and
this
is
the
section
the
mayor's
referring
to
it.
Talks
about
how
subdivisions
outside
the
city
limits
and
the
extra
territorial
planning
jurisdiction
shall
comply
with
these
requirements,
and
then
it
goes
on
further
to
say.
M
M
M
So
getting
the
aside
from
these
criteria,
they're
wanting
to
polish
up
the
engineering
design
standards
with
that
would
be.
The
next
step
is
to
get
some
clarity
on
where
the
community
feels
it's
appropriate
to
entertain
having
royal
street
sections.
If
it
I
mean,
if
we're
gonna
have
an
engineering
design
standards,
obviously
the
intent
is,
we
would
use
them
in
some
places,
but
where
would
those
places
be
and
as
of
right
now
it's
just
in
locations
with
densities,
less
than
one
house
per
acre.
M
The
other
few
changes
in
here
are
really
simple
housekeeping
changes.
I
can
try
to
thumb
through
those
or
answering
questions
on
those
as
well,
but
it
was
fixing
anomalies
or
discrepancies
from
the
engineering
design
standards
in
comparison
with
our
already
implemented,
bmp
manuals,
the
storm
sewer
manuals
that
we
already
have
in
place.
Those
are
some
of
the
corrections
that
we
made
simple
housekeeping
errors
that
were
corrected.
A
I
I
think
that
I'm
glad
you're
bringing
this
up
and
it's
kind
of
a
heavy
topic,
but
the
the
staff
has
to
respond
to
a
request
for
rural
sections
on
two
separate
developments
unrelated
developers.
They
both
want
rural
sections
of
road
and
we
don't
have
a
standard
for
it.
So
the
sidewalk
thing
is,
I
think,
a
key
point
right
now.
A
And
how
do
you
get
to
it
in
a
rural
section
where
you
have
a
ditch
and
the
road
has
a
section
and
then
a
ditch
and
then
a
sidewalk?
How
do
you
get
between
them
and
what's
the
purpose
of
that
sidewalk?
So
I
think
the
there
isn't
a
thought
that
the
sidewalk
is
getting
you
to
and
from
the
road,
because
you're
gonna
have
to
wade
through
a
ditch
to
get
from
the
road
to
the
sidewalk.
A
A
M
The
other
subdivision-
and
we
talked
about
kayaks
being
the
residential
one.
The
other
subdivision
is
a
of
commercial
and
residential
mixed
use
by
the
lake
and
from
a
staff
standpoint.
I
could
see
going
either
way
on
the
allowance
of
a
rural
section
there
we
do
have
a
lot
of
rural
section
streets
around
the
lake.
Obviously,
north
lake
drive
south
lake
drought,
but
we
also
have
a
lot
of
urban
street
sections
out
there,
as
well
with
some
of
the
more
recent
subdivisions
that
have
built
around
the
lake.
M
In
this
particular
case,
the
the
developers
gone
to
a
a
great
extent
of
designing
a
rural
section
and
conveyance
of
their
storm
water
runoff
through
rural
section
and
it's
kind
of
come
to
a
head
in
our
review
process
here
in
checking
off
those
construction
plans,
not
quite
having
what
we
need
to
formally
allow
for
that
in
that
area,
but
seeing
where
it
could
be
fitting
in
that
area
as
well.
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
appropriate
to
ask
for
guidance
on
that
tonight
may
or
not,
but
I
think
so.
A
F
B
F
Mount
hope
just
south
of
it
yeah
by
the
soccer
fields
that
were
there
and
I'm
sure.
At
one
point
that
was
rural.
I
mean
it's
not
that
far
back
for
some
people
to
remember
when
lincoln
was
just
out
by
nothing
lincoln
elementary.
That
is
so.
I
guess
looking
at
that.
I
I
guess,
I'm
a
little
hesitant
with
pushing
rural
streets
because
eventually
they're
not
going
to
be
rural.
F
F
G
J
I
guess
I'm
really
confused
as
to
what
we
are
doing
now
tonight
I
mean
I
initially
when
you
gave
your
presentation
heath.
It
sounded
like
some
relatively
minor
revisions
that
we
needed
to
act
on
as
part
of
this
resolution.
Now
I'm
hearing
a
different
conversation
that
this
is
a
meteor
subject.
So
what
so?
What
are
we
acting
on
tonight?
And
I
guess
I
got
a
follow-up
question
of
that.
J
M
Part
b
to
that
conversation
is
where,
should
these
rural
street
sections
be
allowed,
and
that
is
something
that
we
had
talked
to
the
planning
commission
about.
I
actually
gave
them
a
heads
up
discussion
at
the
last
planet,
commission
meeting
to
let
them
know
we'd
be
circling
back
to
get
their
input
on
that
as
well,
and
thank
you
for
that
reminder,
and-
and
perhaps
tonight
we
treat
this
as
just
planting
the
seed
of
thought
to
the
council
and
we
we
do
circle
back
to
the
planning
commission
and
get
their
input
on
where
they
should
be
allowed.
M
But
that
being
said,
we
could
we
could
just
press
our
schedule
internally
get
to
get
something
to
the
planning
commission
as
soon
as
absolutely
possible
and
then
subsequently
to
the
council
and
have
something
formalized
that
way.
But
tonight's
action
is
simply
updating
engineering
design
standards
and
then
the
subsequent
discussion
needs
to
be.
Where
should
we
allow
these
rural
street
sections.
A
M
A
M
M
Shell
at
four
foot
paved
shoulders
and
major
collector
shell
of
eight
foot.
So
if
you
look
at
their
widths
up
top
here,
the
minor
collectors
account
for
two
four
foot
paved
shoulders
by
adding
eight
feet
from
the
section
beneath
them.
So
you
go
from
24
to
32,
because
you've
added
the
two
four
foot
paved
shoulders
and
then
subsequently
from
there
you
go
from
32
to
40,
because
you're
adding
the
two
eight
foot
paved
shoulders
for
a
major
collector.
So
the
only
two
that
they
call
out
shoulders
specifically
are
the
minor
collectors
and
major
collectors.
F
I
A
A
F
J
A
J
Would
ask
the
question
first
of
all
heath.
I
really
appreciate
the
time
that
you
have
put
into
this
going
back
to
last
winter
early
spring
when
we
approve
these
engineering
design
standards.
I
guess
I
want
to.
I
don't
understand
necessarily
what
we're
all
looking
at
here.
I'm
not
an
engineer,
but
I
don't
feel
like
I
necessarily
need
to.
But
my
question
is
from
a
developer's
perspective.
J
Are
these
revisions
substantial,
because
when
we,
when
we
passed
with
engineering
design
centers
to
me,
it
was
to
have
a
playbook
in
place
that
a
developer
could
rely
upon
that
the
route
that
they
knew,
what
the
rules
were
and
now
to
me
we're
changing
the
playbook
again.
So
I
guess
I'm
wondering
how
drastic
are
we
revising
that
and
now
we're
circumventing
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
the
standards
begin
with.
M
Yeah,
no
that's
a
great
question.
I
apologize
for
the
lack
clarity
here,
but
everything
in
black
is
what
has
been
existing
since
march
when
we
adopted
these
standards,
so
we
did
have
standards
as
far
as
a
minimum
width
for
a
rule
section,
we
added
a
few
notes
in
red
that
kind
of
expand
on
these
criteria
so
that
we
address
a
few
of
the
things
that
weren't
in
here
the
biggest
thing.
We're
adding
really
is
this
typical
section
right
here
which
just
takes
that
table
and
puts
puts
it
into
a
a
figure
that
a
diagram?
M
That's
that's,
maybe
more
user
friendly
than
the
table,
and
it's
identifying
what?
For
again,
this
is
only
spelling
out
a
typical
role,
collector
street,
so
you
do
see
the
four
foot
shoulders.
You
just
see
the
12
foot
lanes
and
the
minimum
overall
80
foot
right
away
is
specified
and
all
these
things
that
are
already
spelled
out
up
here
in
this
table.
M
So
as
far
as
a
change
to
the
standards,
there's
really
none
that
we're
implementing
we're
just
adding
clarity
to
them.
Okay,
with
exception
to,
I
think
that
rural
street
section
is
having
that
five
foot.
Sidewalk,
I
do
believe
that
is
new,
and
I
gotta
give
credit
here
to
justin
too
justin.
Did
the
drafting
of
these
and
I'll
defer
to
him
just
to
make
sure
that
that
five
foot
sidewalk
is
a
new
requirement?
Justin?
Is
that
correct.
E
M
M
A
A
A
G
B
F
G
A
M
The
green
text
is
a
summary
summary
of,
what's
being
added
to
this
section
of
the
ordinance
notwithstanding,
the
foregoing
conditional
uses
shall
be
determined
by
an
affirmative
vote
of
at
least
two-thirds
of
the
present
and
voting
members
of
the
board.
So
the
board
of
adjustment,
of
course,
acts
on
our
conditional
uses
and
variances
under
the
the
guidance
of
the
the
zoning
ordinance
in
chapter
21..
M
There
were
some
lengthy
discussions
on
that.
What
we're
doing
here
is
completely
in
line
with
state
statute.
It
leaves
it
up
to
this
the
municipalities
to
determine
what
percentage
of
the
board
needs
to
act
in
order
for
the
passing
of
a
conditional
use,
and
you
could
set
that
as
two-thirds
of
the
board
or
two-thirds
of
the
present
voting
members.
What
we've
opted
to
do
is
reduce
that
down
to
the
present
voting
members.
M
If
we
don't
have
a
full
member
board
presence
the
quorum
for
the
boa
is
two-thirds
of
that
board,
so
you
need
at
least
five
boards
member
five
board
members
present
in
order
to
carry
out
business
in
the
boa
and
prior
to
this
amendment,
you
would
need
all
five
of
those
to
vote.
Yes,
in
order
to
pass
a
conditional
use
with
the
amendment
that
reduces
the
vote
down
to
four.
A
B
A
B
I
M
H
So
the
one
of
the
members
was
concerned
that
they
they
felt
that
five
votes
was
too
much
of
a
hurdle
to
to
ask
somebody
to
to
get
over
for
a
conditional
use.
So
they
felt
that
a
conditional
use
was,
you
know
as
something
that's
should
be
less
difficult
to
obtain
than
a
variance
and,
and
so
they
proposed
some
language
that
would
have
allowed
a
four
vote
passage
if
a
full
board
was
there
and
they
made
a
motion
to
that
effect.
J
Just
a
comment:
if
you
want
to
get
down
the
weeds
on
this,
I
would
encourage,
but
our
colleagues
up
here
in
the
council
to
follow
that.
I
think
it's
october
22nd
planning
commission
discussion,
because
it
was
very
lengthy
and
very
detailed
so,
but
it
might
be
worth
spending
the
time
to
review
that
prior
to
us
acting
on
it.
A
A
M
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
The
williston
edition
currently
has
an
active,
pud
zoning
district
in
plan
in
place.
Their
plan
includes
covenants
for
this
area
and
what
they're
proposing
here
through
this
amendment
is
to
amend
their
plan
to
allow
for
more
of
a
mixed
use
within
the
pud.
The
original
presentation
of
the
pud
included
personal
storage
units.
M
These
units
are
going
to
be
condominiumized
and
under
a
an
association
managed
within
us,
the
association
requirements,
and
that
is
one
of
the
amendments
that
they
have
copied
here.
Sorry,
I'm
stammering
as
I
pull
up
this
map,
but
one
of
the
amendments
that
they're
proposing
is
they
would
update
their
covenants
for
their
association
to
restrict
residential
living
quarters
in
a
certain.
I
believe
three
of
these
units
here
and
the
rest
of
this
would
still
remain
private
storage
again
at
a
larger
scale.
M
These
do
have
residential
siding.
They
meet
all
the
residential
type
requirements
as
far
as
as
that
is
concerned,
we've
looked
at
it
from
a
code
standpoint
from
a
life
safety
standpoint,
with
chip
primus
fire
marshal,
as
well
as
stacy,
the
community
development
manager
and,
and
also
with
brandy,
the
urban
planner
and
the
way
we
view
this
is
that
these
units
that
they're
proposing
to
have
residential
quarters
in
would
be
something
of
the
likes
of
a
town
house,
a
row
of
town
houses
with
really
large
garages.
M
They
do
not
exceed
the
attached
garage
limits
that
we
do
have
an
ordinance,
so
there
aren't
any
issues
in
that
respect,
and
so
from
a
staffing
standpoint.
That
seems
to
me
to
everything
and
then,
from
a
code
standpoint
they'd
be
required
to
put
in
fire
suppression
systems
and
have
these
units
sprinklered
they'd
have
minimum
firewall
ratings
and
things
like
that
between
the
living
quarters
and
the
storage
areas.
M
F
I
guess
just
for
clarity,
I
mean
it
meets
requirements
meets
requirements,
so
the
idea
is
to
have
the
housing
on
the
side
of
it,
they're
not
going
to
like
loft
it
above
the
garage
or
anything
like
that.
It's
going
to
be
a
separate
unit
to
the
side
and
then
like
a
detached
garage.
Are
they
attaching
it
just
out
of
curiosity,
I
guess.
B
And
stacey
actually
might
be
better
to
speak
to
this,
but
so,
when
you
look
at
the
map
that
heath
has
pulled
up
unit,
15,
16
and
17
of
lap,
two
of
that
south
southern
building
there,
those
will
have
the
garage
will
obviously
be
facing
towards
the
north.
And
then
the
living
quarters
will
be
in
the
southern
part,
and
I
believe
that
they
will
have
separate
entrances
to
the
south
as
well,
just
as
a
secondary
exit.
B
B
F
F
B
But
I
don't
think
the
living
quarters
are
going
to
be
locked
on
top
of
where
the
garage
space
will
be.
There
will
just
be
in
the
southern
part
of
the
of
the
unit.
There
will
be
two
stories,
so
there
will
be
the
main
floor
and
then
the
loft
and
then
the
garage
will
just
have
a
higher
space,
because
the
garage
doors
are
actually
14
feet,
so
just
so,
they
have
area
to
park,
larger
vehicles
and
rvs
and
whatnot
right.
G
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
about
that.
One
see
none
we'll
move
on
item
h
is
authorization
for
the
fire
department
to
purchase
ten
digital
radios
in
the
amount
of
forty
five
thousand
eight
hundred
thirteen
dollars
sixty
cents
using
covid
relief
fund
dollars
previously
awarded
to
the
city
of
watertown
motion
by
holine
second
by
bill
howard
and
is
doug
on
or
don
roland
who's.
On,
yes,.
M
G
M
H
M
G
G
A
B
M
B
So,
essentially,
if
the
council
approves
this,
what
they
will
be
doing
is
they
will
be
allowing
the
fire
department
to
go
ahead
and
purchase,
something
that
was
not
in
the
budget
but
purchase
it
ahead
of
the
schedule
to
relate
to
the
covid
19..
So
that's,
essentially
what
this
motion
would
do.
Okay,.