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From YouTube: Special Council Work Session - 07-15-2021
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Special Council Work Session - 07-15-2021
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Yes,
okay,
moved
by
councilman
vilhauer
seconded
by
councilman
buehler,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
aye
opposed,
nay,
motion
carried
with
that
said
before
we
move
on
to
our
regular
agenda.
Just
a
few
comments
from
the
chair
regarding
the
work
session.
The
city
of
watertown
is
in
a
new
era
of
government.
As
everyone
knows,
we
transitioned
into
a
city
manager
form
of
government
with
the
new
government
comes
new
ideas,
and
some
of
them
are
necessitated,
and
some
of
them
are
just.
We
think
that
we
can
do
business
better.
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We
have
fewer
council
members
now
so
gone
are
the
days
where
you
could
have
four,
or
even
five
councilmen
or
council
people
in
a
committee
doing
research
outside
of
sp
outside
of
regular
council
meetings.
Now,
with
fewer
council
members,
we
can
only
have
three
people
in
any
committee,
so
the
idea
was-
and
that's
like
almost
too
few
of
people
to
share
ideas
and
come
up
and
then
bring
it
back
to
the
group.
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There
is
no
action
going
to
be
taken.
This
is
just
to
update
a
lot
of
different
projects
that
the
city
of
watertown
that
this
council
has
inherited
from
previous
councils
in
previous
years.
We
have
a
lot
of
exciting
possibilities
for
the
future
of
watertown.
A
lot
of
projects-
and
this
is
just
to
update
where
we
are
at
with
some
of
these
projects-
the
status
of
them,
possibly
some
steps
for
the
future.
We
are
not
going
to
be
lost
in
speculative
questions
about.
Why?
Don't
we
try
this
or
why
not?
This?
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The
engineers
estimate
on
that
was
1.086
million,
actually
came
in
at
672
000
38
under
engineering
estimates,
so
we
actually
have
some
more
money
and
I'll
get
that
into
that
detail
here
in
a
second
due
to
the
bids
coming
in
so
combined
all
engineering
estimates
and
combining
the
actual
bids
or
actual
money,
we
are
spending
here,
25
million
versus
21
million
actual
money,
so
we
came
in
total
project
at
about
16.7
under
engineering
estimates
completely
and
I'll
hold
there.
Is
there
any
questions
on
that?
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Okay,
this
is
going
to
be.
This
is
going
to
be
a
lot
of
information
and,
like
I
said,
I
will
send
out
all
of
this
information
to
amanda,
to
get
to
you
guys
to
disseminate
to
you
guys,
so
you
can
review
it.
If
you
have
any
questions
later,
if
it
comes
back,
you
know,
let
me
know,
but
I'll
run
through
this
real
quick.
I
know
the
council
wanted
to
know
what
the
faa
share
was.
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If
that
makes
sense-
and
I
can
go
into
more
detail
if
that
doesn't
but
essentially
the
projects
we
do,
they
take.
Our
million
dollars
every
year
and
it
goes
towards
the
project
and
then
the
feds
come
up
with
the
rest
of
the
money,
the
remainder
of
the
money
for
the
project.
So
in
2020
the
we
had
an
arf
cart,
we
had
civil
design,
we
had
terminal
design
and
then
we
had
terminal
design
in
a
multi-year
grant,
and
I
will
have
one
of
our
architects
and
engineers.
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That's
on
the
phone,
maybe
discuss
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
of
a
multi-year
grant.
So,
for
instance,
the
terminal
project
came
in
at
74.75
percent
eligible
that's
total
project.
There
are
bits
and
pieces
of
it,
and
this
is
where
it
gets
confusing.
So
there
are
bits
and
pieces
of
it
that
became
100
eligible
due
to
the
covet
money
that
we've
received
through
the
federal
government
here
in
the
last
year.
D
I'll
just
keep
it
I'll,
keep
it
simple.
The
terminal
is
74.75
federally
eligible.
The
remainder
of
that
is
split
between
the
sponsor
share
and
the
state
share.
The
state
for
terminal
buildings
only
gives
200
000
for
a
state
project
on
a
terminal
building,
so
we
had
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
state
share.
D
Along
with
this,
we
had
more
money
that
came
in
and
it's
called
the
cares
act
share
which
took
the
project
from
90
to
100
match
federally.
As
you
see
here,
there's
no
sponsor
share
the
the
cares
act.
10
actually
covered
for
some
of
this.
The
10
sponsor
share
so
I'll
get
into
the
details
here.
So
in
2020
the
entitlement
grant
total
was
1.854
million.
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We
have
partial
air
carrier
ramp,
the
other
partial
air
carrier
ramp
that
we
went
back
out
for
bid
for.
We
have
some
portions
of
the
civil
bidding
construction
admin,
some
testing
and
then
some
change
orders
come
in.
We
do
have
administration
as
well
for
this
biz.
This
bid
administration
is
essentially
a
term
we
use
for
contingency
money
in
the
faa's
eyes.
We
can't
use
the
word
contingency,
so
we
use
administration.
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Okay,
we'll
get
into
the
grant
number
38
here,
so
this
has.
This
has
a
lot
of
stuff
in
it
too.
This
is
the
phase
two
and
sre
snow
removal
equipment
building.
They
the
faa
said
instead
of
doing
two
grants,
we're
gonna,
do
one
grant
bid
the
project
as
two
separate
projects
for
the
snow
removal
equipment
building,
which
would
be
a
maintenance
shop.
Essentially
due
to
the
fact
to
where
the
new
terminal
is,
we
had
to
relocate
or
destroy
the
maintenance
shop.
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The
manual
shop
was
roughly
60
years
old,
the
the
first
building,
the
second
building.
We
are
actually
relocating
in
the
tune
of
about
eighty
eight
thousand
dollars
for
that
building
to
be
relocated
and
used
for
not
only
airport,
but
we
can
use
that
as
a
city
building
for
storage,
it's
not
going
to
be
inside
the
fence,
it'll
actually
be
a
through
the
fence
operation
for
the
relocation
of
the
second
building.
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Thanks
don,
can
everybody
hear
me?
Yes,
all
right
so
with
with
the
program
dollars
and
having
a
federal
funding
shortfall
for
to
complete
all
the
project
under
one
grant?
What
the
fa
allows
sponsors
to
do
is
multi-year
their
construction
projects.
What
that
means
is
you
are
the
the
city
is
committing
their
next
couple
years
worth
of
entitlement
dollars,
which
you
guys
get
a
million
dollars
a
year
based
off
of
your
achieving
10,
000
employments.
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Now
it
gets
a
little
trickier
as
you
look
at
the
bottom
two
lines,
with
the
additional
grant
in
2023
with
the
sre
building
and
the
access
road
going
to
it.
From
taxiway
alpha,
we
are
constructing
that
to
taxiway
standards
due
to
the
fact
that
you
currently
have
no
place
for
a
private
hangar
to
be
constructed
on
the
airport,
so
we're
kind
of
killing
two
birds
with
one
stone.
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So
you
can
see
that
total
cost
of
ninety
000.
What
that
is,
is
the
difference
between
an
access
road
and
a
taxi
lane,
so
the
faa
will
fund
the
access
road
with
this
project,
but
they
just
cannot
due
to
the
discretionary
dollars,
cannot
fund
a
taxi
lane
with
the
discretionary.
So
in
2023
you
will
actually
get
a
an
amendment
to
your
existing
grant.
E
Plus
you
will
get
a
separate
grant
to
fund
the
that
90
000,
which
is
the
difference
between
an
access
road
and
a
taxi
lane.
In
addition,
you
can
see
below
what
we
would
like
to
intend
to
do,
and
this
is
estimated-
and
we
don't
have
to
do
this
at
this
time,
but
it's
going
to
be
the
best
time
to
do.
It
would
be
to
to
construct
about
150
foot
stub
of
hanger
taxi
lane
out
to
provide
you
guys
a
few
spots
for
future
potential
private
hangars
to
be
built
out
there.
E
As
I
said
it's,
it's
amazing
how
many
hangers
have
been
constructed
at
the
airport.
The
last
you
know
five
to
five
to
ten
years,
along
with
the
city
funded
tea
hangers.
I
don't
know
where
everybody
came
from,
but
boy
they
sure
flock
to
watertown
and
and
put
up
structures
or
park
their
aircraft.
There.
D
The
state
and
the
faa
have
been
very
supportive
of
watertown
in
giving
us
extra
funding
in
the
last
five
or
six
years
for
extra
taxi
lane
to
build
out
our
taxiways
for
private
hangar
areas.
It's
just
fortunate,
but
unfortunate
that
we
have
all
of
the
small
stalls
filled,
so
the
last
stall
is
actually
under
construction
right
now,
with
the
building
going
up,
you
know,
and
what
this
will
do
is
this
will
speed
up
this
process
about
three
years.
D
We
won't
have
to
wait
for
that
taxiway
and
and
stub
out
to
be
done
along
with
tearing
up
infrastructure
that
we
put
in
this
year,
which
didn't
make
much
sense
to
us
or
the
faa.
So
with
that
I
will
stop.
I
think
this
is
a
lot
of
information
I'll
quit
talking
about
the
the
numbers
right
now
and
I'll
get
into
some
questions
that
we
had
so
the.
D
Sorry
I'll
turn
my
camera
on.
We
have
some
questions
come
in,
so
if
the
cost
could
change
whose
costs
are
these
covers,
you
know
are
these
costs
covered
by
who,
in
this
chart
here
it
showed
the
faa
share,
the
state
share
and
the
sponsor
share.
So
if
there
is
a
change
order
that
would
come
through
depending
on
the
eligibility,
whether
becoming
100,
the
97
percent
for
the
sre
or
the
74.75
percent?
That
is
how
the
share
would
be
broke
apart.
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I
think
we
went
through
the
project,
scope
and
costs
for
each
party,
and
the
o
m
budget
was
another
question
that
got
brought
up
by
numerous
people.
You
know
going
to
a
new
building.
You
know
three
times
the
size
we
are
looking
at,
that
with
amanda
mack
and
heath
von.
I
and
my
staff
we're
getting
some
other
airports
involved
that
have
had
terminal
projects.
D
The
completion
date
has
moved
from
roughly
april
time
frame
of
2022
to
june
time
frame
of
2022,
and
that's
due
to
the
wintertime
construction
with
asphalt
is
the
the
big
concern
that
we
have
going
into
the
the
phase
two
portion
of
this.
So
we
extended
the
date
of
completion
for
contractors
to
finish
the
asphalt
early
next
spring.
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So
that
tells
you
what
an
airport
can
provide
a
community
just
for
economic
impact
of
having
the
airport.
Here,
I
believe
in
2030
it's
going
to
be
much
higher
than
that.
So
I
guess
with
all
that
said,
we
have
two
airlines
right
now.
I
can
give
you
numbers
from
last
week
we
ran
out
of
200
seats,
total.
We
were
averaging
175
a
day
for
employment
flying
out,
so
people
are
noticing
the
watertown
airport
they're
using
the
airport.
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E
Todd
this
is
mike.
I
got
it
pulled
up.
So
if
you
add
up
everything,
you
know,
nuts,
to
bolts
engineering,
miscellaneous
costs
for
utilities,
admin
testing
everything
total
project
from
from
start
to
finish
as
of
right
now,
as
the
costs
are
today
and
there's
some
estimated
costs
for
potential
change,
orders
and
stuff
like
that,
but
we're
at
about
26.7
million,
just
in
a
round
number
councilman
down
for
it
of
that
21
million
21.06
million
as
a
federal
share.
E
As
as
todd
mentioned,
the
state
shares
a
little
bit
lighter
because
they
only
contribute
200,
000
dollars
to
a
terminal
and
and
on
top
of
that,
with
the
covet
relief
packages
that
eliminates
basically
the
state
shares.
So
the
state
shares
about
247
thousand
nine
hundred
city
share.
Right
now
is
projected
total
project
again
from
start
to
finish
at
5.4
million-
and
I
know
todd
was
probably
going
to
talk
about
you
know
where,
where
it
was
budgeted
versus
where
it's
sitting
total
project
wise
for
5.4
million.
So
that
gives
us
again.
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Thank
you.
Thank
you
mike
and
I'll
add
to
that.
The
city's
share
should
be
at
4.7
million.
We
are
still
in
debate
with
the
faa
on
a
faa
tech.
Ops,
reimbursable
agreement
is
what
it's
specifically
called:
it's
to
move
the
instrument
landing
system
and
radios
and
communications
for
the
faa
that
is,
is
currently
in
the
old
building
to
relocate
them
to
a
different
place
on
the
airport
that
is
in
the
tune.
We
have
it
estimated
right
now
at
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars.
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The
faa
told
us
immediately
that
that
was
eligible
to
get
reimbursed
just
this
year.
They
told
us
that
that
cost
is
no
longer
eligible,
but
they
are
working
with
every
avenue
they
can
to
try
and
get
that
back
eligible
in
the
future,
so
we
can
get
reimbursed
for
that.
But
all
things
considered,
that's
where
the
overage
is
right
now,
as
we
sit
today
for
that
5.4
million
city
share
versus
the
4.7
million,
so
we
will
keep
on
the
faa
with
that.
Like
I
said,
this
is
a
this
is
a
living
breathing
document.
D
G
Todd
or
mike
whoever
wants
to
deal
with
this.
You
seem
pretty
certain
in
in
in
working
with
the
feds
in
this.
As
far
as
what
they
are
going
to
be
funding,
I
mean
we're
also
looking
out
a
couple
years
down
the
road
on
this.
Is
there
any
reason
that
we
should
be
nervous
or
concerned?
I
mean
I
work
with
the
federal
government
that
all
of
a
sudden
rules
change
and
we're
left
holding
the
bag
on
something
we're
not
expecting.
D
G
And
maybe
it's
maybe
it's
not
appropriate
in
this
setting,
but
I
think
the
public
would
be
interested
as
well
as
some
of
us
up
here
in
the
council
diocese.
As
far
as
you
have
any
visuals
that
you
could
share
fairly
readily,
or
is
that
going
to
take
some
time
to
provide
us?
You
know
I
was
part
of
that
planning
committee.
I
saw
all
sorts
of
them
and
but
it's
been
a
while
now,
since
any
of
us
have
seen
visuals
of
what
to
expect
out
there.
What's
all
said
and
done.
D
H
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H
H
H
H
You
know
we
can
work
with
the
city
to
to
get
some
of
those
renderings
and
combine
them
with
the
actual
construction
images
going
on
right
now
and
and
set
those
up
at
city
hall
or
out
at
the
existing
airport
terminal
right
now
is
always
a
great
way
to
engage
that
community
of
active
flyers.
So
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
work
with
jason
to
set
that
up.
I
Mitch
and
todd
this
is,
can
can
you
hear
me
this
is
jason
co-op,
hey
jason?
If
you
would
like
me
to,
I
can
share
those
images
right
now.
If
we
do
want
to
see
them,
we
we
do
have
obviously
the
boards
and
the
model
out
at
the
airport
now
and
we
we
can
actually
provide
boards
at
the
city
at
city
hall
too,
if
you
want
them,
but
if
you
want
to
see
the
images
right
now,
I
can
share
my
screen
and
show
those.
I
Okay,
so
we
we
have,
you
know
a
kind
of
a
variety
of
renderings,
but
this
here
is
an
exterior
shot
of
the
outside
of
the
building.
This
is
the
the
northwest
corner,
and
you
know,
essentially,
this
building
is
primarily
precast
walls
on
the
bottom
level.
That's
kind
of
this
grayish
color,
you
see
all
all
along
the
bottom.
The
first
level
is
essentially
precast
kind
of
all
the
way
around
the
building.
I
The
second
story
piece
which,
which
basically
kind
of
goes
over
the
the
public
spaces
along
the
front
of
the
building,
incorporates
a
lot
of
channel
glass.
That's
this
kind
of
glowing
piece
that
you
see
here
in
the
building.
That's
that's
basically
an
opaque
glass
piece,
and
you
know
at
night
there's
kind
of
there's
lighting
right
behind
that
that'll
kind
of
help
that
light
up
during
the
daytime
here
I'll
pull
up
the
next
image.
I
You
know
that'll
just
be
more
of
an
opaque
kind
of
glass
piece.
You
know
similar
to
this
image
right
here,
so
you
won't
be
able
to
see
through
it,
but
you
can.
You
will
get
some
light
transfer
through
there
and
then
there
are
kind
of
three
clear
glass
components
on
each
end,
so
this
this
center.
One
here
is
the
primary
entry
on
the
first
level
here
and
then
there's
glass
above
that
and
then
on
each
end,
when
you're
actually
walking
through
the
space.
I
I
I
I
That
is
this
view
here,
kind
of
looking
down
that
hallway,
so
basically
standing
in
the
same
spot
and
just
and
rotating.
This
is
where,
where
check-in
will
be
so
this
is
where
that
you
know
the
airline
check-in
will
be.
You
continue
down
this
hall.
You
can
kind
of
see
that
glass
on
the
exterior
piece
that
I
mentioned
there
at
the
end,
but
you
continue
down
this
hall
and
that's
where
the
bag
claim
is
in
the
car
rental
space
kind
of
down
at
the
end
there.
I
But
that's
that's
the
north
wing.
I
don't
have
a
great
rendered
view
like
this
of
the
south
wing,
but
basically
on
the
opposite.
Side
of
this
is
the
checkpoint.
So
that's
where
you
would
you
basically
would
come
in
you?
Would
you
would
get
your
ticket
at
the
ticket
counter
here
and
then
you
go
over
the
checkpoint
on
the
other
side,
past
your
screening
and
all
that
and
get
to
the
whole
room
good
one
or
two
more
pictures
that
I
can
show
quickly.
I
I
think
the
last
image
I
have
here
is
are
of
the
hold
room
so
on
the
back
side,
once
you've
passed
through
the
screening
area,
this
is
the
south
east
corner
of
the
building.
This
is
the
whole
room
space,
so
we'd
have
our
beam
seating
kind
of
in
here
right.
You
know,
restrooms
that
that
kitchen
area
actually
is
accessible
from
both
sides.
I
A
H
F
F
Right
in
the
council
meeting
we
had
gosh
first
week
of
july,
it
was
referenced
that
there
was
a
short
fall
in
funding
and
that
we
could
apply
the
two
years
of
eas
entitlements
to
to
offset
that.
So
my
question
is:
do
these
numbers
represent
the
use
of
those
eas
dollars
that
you
talked
about
for
what
20
20,
where
they
I'm
not
sure?
If
they,
I
think
they're
2021
in
2022?
I
believe.
D
G
D
F
D
D
G
G
A
A
A
The
council
unanimously
agreed
to
the
ice
arena
concept
that
was
brought
forward
several
months
ago
that
this
includes
the
site
at
the
lakes
of
willow,
creek
location,
the
general
idea
of
what
we
wanted
with
the
ice
arena
and
a
rough
idea
on
the
cost.
We
then
signed
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
the
watertown
development
company,
craig
jesse,
craig
llc
and
j
j
earthworks.
That
mou
is
still
in
effect
and
we
are
still
following
it
that
is
giving
us
the
template
for
moving
forward.
A
We
have,
after
that
hired
tegra
as
our
owner's
representative.
This
is
dick
strasberg.
He
is
our
owner's
representative
he
has
been
in.
He
has
been
invaluable
to
the
city
of
watertown
in
making
sure
that
we
are
doing
this
right
and
moving
this
forward.
He
has
incredible
credentials
among
many
other
things.
He
was
behind
target
field
for
the
minnesota
twins,
which
was
voted,
the
number
one
baseball
stadium
or
entire
stadium
in
the
entire
nation
yeah.
So
we
are
lucky
to
have
him
here
in
watertown
we
have
a
design
concept.
A
Team
formed
among
citizens
of
watertown
and
work
has
continued
in
the
in
the
past
several
months
that
has
included
facility
tours
staff,
discussion
and
community
engagement
next
slide
our
immediate
next
steps.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
that
are
going
to
have
to
happen
to
bring
this
project
to
fruition,
but
our
immediate
next
steps
are
to
continue.
Our
relationship
with
tegra
dick's
contract
is,
is
ending
at
this
point.
A
A
We
don't
want
to
get
ahead
of
ourselves
and
start
discussing
all
sorts
of
variants
that
we
will
have
to
address
sometime
in
the
future,
but
all
of
those
are
just
hypothetical
until
we
know
for
certain
what
the
price
is
going
to
come
in
at
and
that's
why
we
have
to
hire
the
architect,
they
will
come
back
to
us
with
a
price
and
what
we
get
for
that
price.
At
that
point,
we
will
know
what
we
can
and
cannot
do,
and
then
we
can
start
adding
or
subtracting
to
the
facility.
We
can
start
amending
it.
A
However,
we
want,
but
that
is
our
immediate
next
step
and
then
I
would
ask
this
for
everyone:
why
is
this
good
for
watertown?
Obviously,
the
quality
of
life
for
the
citizens
for
the
thousands
of
kids
who
will
enjoy
this
facility
and
adults
too,
makes
watertown
more
attractive
for
recruitment
of
workforce
and
businesses.
We
have
a
lot
of
minnesota
people
who
are
looking
to
move
into
south
dakota,
not
just
minnesotans,
but
also
all
over
the
country
and
especially
minnesotans.
A
A
The
typical
the
typical
ice
attorney
in
the
winter
brings
in
a
hundred
and
twenty
six
thousand
dollars
just
in
one
weekend,
a
summer
tournament
brings
in
two
hundred
and
seventy
six
thousand
dollars
if
into
the
local
economy.
This
is
money
that
we
are
bringing
in.
Also
in
the
month
of
january,
the
convention
and
visitors
bureau
speculated
that
just
the
first
penny
sales
tax
will
increase
by
over
twenty
thousand
dollars
with
a
new
ice
arena
in
town.
The
third
penny
would
do
the
same.
A
The
b
b
b,
the
triple
b
tax
would
also
go
up,
so
this
generates
a
lot
of
money
for
the
city
of
watertown
and
also
where
we
have
the
site
located.
We
believe
that
it
is
going
to
spur
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
in
economic
development.
We
had
several
meetings
today
with
watertown
development
company,
where
we
are
continuing
that
and
then
finally,
don't
ever
lose
the
site
that
we
are.
A
F
I
did
good
to
see
you
again
how
you
doing
reid,
when
you
said
on
your
very
first
one
that
on
where
it
looks
to
be
engaging
292
as
the
architectural
firm
you've
got
twice
listed
on
there,
you
got
prices.
This
is
just
a
clarity
issue.
You
got
dick
got
us
a
great
price
and
then
you've
got
something
else.
Are
you
referring?
What
are
you
referring
to
on
that.
A
Just
just
on
the
yeah
sorry
thank
you.
Councilman
danforth
and
dick
can
answer
this
as
well,
but
basically
this
gentleman
because
of
the
connections
that
he's
had
in
the
history
that
he
has
a
typical
architectural
conceptual
design,
would
cost.
Maybe
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
he's
getting
it
for
us
for
about
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
K
And
just
maybe
a
comment
on
292.
they're,
a
group
that
we
had
two
groups
compete,
jlg
and
they're.
The
group
that
did
the
wellness
center
and
they've
also
done
a
lot
of
hockey
facilities
and
the
ice
committee
is
recommending
to
go
with
292
and
I
definitely
support
that
they're,
a
very
strong
group
they've
they
have
done.
They
are
the
leader
in
this
region
for
doing
ice,
arenas
and
they've
they're.
K
L
G
L
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
reiterate:
I've
heard
great
things
about
292
I've
seen
some
of
their
work
being
involved
in
the
hockey
community,
not
really
in
the
hockey
community.
I
shouldn't
say
that
just
as
a
fan
more
so,
but
292
has
done
outstanding
work
and
I've
heard
really
great
things
about
them,
and
so
I
I
would
like
to
see
this
move
forward
with
them.
M
I
just
wanted
to
to
also
mention
that
dick
was
instrumental
in
negotiating
our
the
percent
of
cost
for
this
project
as
well,
but
we
might
want
to
mention
the
fact
that
we
did
interview
both
architect
firms,
along
with
their
subs,
that
they
work
with
in
shakopee
as
well
as
in
fargo.
So
we
did.
We
did
spend
time
with
them
at
facilities
that
they
had
built.
So
we
got
an
idea
of
what
their
work
was
like
after
it
was
completed,
as
well
as
what
their
firms
could
do
for
us.
F
So
as
we
look
to
this
project
in
anticipation
of
of
getting
to
the
point
of
decision
making
and
whether
we
build
or
not,
the
questions
I
have
then
is
is:
where
are
we
at
in
that
process?
What's
the
kind
of
time
frame
that
if
we
were
to
keep
this
going,
that
we
would
have
have
drawings
concept,
get
a
a
much
closer
analysis
of
what
the
cost
is
going
to
be
understand
what
the
o
m
budget
is
going
to
be?
You
know
that
package
to
know
what
that
I
know.
F
We
don't
know
what
that
bottom
line
is
ultimately
till
the
bids
are
in,
but
we've
got
decisions
obviously
to
make
before
then,
but
so,
where
are
we
at?
What's
the
time
frame
for
getting
to
where
we
understand
approximately,
what
this
building
is
going
to
cost
us?
What's
it
going
to
cost
us
to
run
the
facility?
K
So
we
just
had
the
meeting
with
amanda
and
we're
talking
about
this
and
we've
got.
I've
got
some
homework
to
do
before.
We
can
finalize
that
we
had
the
meeting
an
hour
ago,
but
I
think
in
general,
if
we
were
looking
at
a
targeted
date,
it
might
be
the
beginning
of
october,
so
that
would
be
for
getting
the
forgetting
the
concept,
design
and
the
concept
designs
priced
up,
and
so
that
would
be
a
targeted
date.
K
A
A
I
do
want
to
be
honest
with
the
public
and
the
council
that
the
cost
has
gone
up
from
the
original
proposal,
but
that
is
totally
out
of
our
control
because
of
the
rising
prices
of
commodities
and
steel
and
and
things
like
that,
due
to
the
crazy
world
that
we're
living
in
due
to
covid.
But
we
know
that
we
are
going
to
come
forward
with
the
best
proposal
that
we
can
for
the
city
of
watertown
and
take
that
into
consideration
and.
K
Just
one
one
comment
on
that,
too,
is:
what
we
recommend
on
this
is
is
is
developing
what
I
call
the
base
model.
If
you
buy
a
car,
it's
a
it's
a
you
can
get
a
base
model
and
get
lots
of
extras
on
it.
So
we
wanted
to
establish
what
that
base
model
is
and
then
work
for
work
to
create
options
that
are
enhancements
so
that
way,
we'll
get
a
solid
number
up
front
and
of
of
what
the
minimum
cost
will
be,
and
then
you've
got
options
to
go
from
there.
G
K
G
I've
got
a
question,
for
you
might
be
helpful
for
the
public
that
tuning
in
as
well
as
some
of
us
up
here
in
the
council
dies
who
who
is
working?
Who
is
the
committee
that
you
we're
referring
that
you're?
Referring
to
you,
you've
been
the
point
person
by
and
large
the
public
sees,
but
who
else
is
working
behind
the
scenes
on
this.
A
Well,
thank
you,
deputy
mayor.
As
you
know,
you
are
helping
with
this
and
councilman
buehler.
The
three
of
us
were
on
the
ice
arena
committee
prior
to
the
changeover
of
government
council.
Former
councilman
roby
is
still
very
interested
in
staying
part
of
this,
as
is
former
councilman
lalum,
but
with
that
said,
we
have
branched
out
and
really
engaged
with
the
new
form
of
government
city
manager.
A
G
G
I
mean
we
were
dealing
trying
to
pull
the
piece
together
to
bring
forth
a
concept
and
from
that
from
from
that
point
forward,
though,
we
have
engaged
staff,
the
irish
trump
I'm
looking
at
you
know,
city
manager,
mack,
our
our
finance
officer,
our
city
attorney,
any
number
of
people
from
our
engineering
department
we'll
be
pulling
in
park
and
rec
people
very
soon.
Here,
as
we
talk
about
the
owenium
side
of
it.
So
it's
it's
as
well
as
watertown
development
company
personnel.
G
J
J
C
L
Are
we
relying
on
that
study
going
forward
at
all,
because
I
know
that
there
was
concerns
from
some
of
the
user
groups
previously
about
how
much
per
month
they
were
going
to
have
to
increase
their
contribution
towards
the
new
ice
arena.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
I
guess
that's
one
question
and
then
my
second
question
I'll
just
follow
it
up
here
and
we
can
talk
about
it
all,
but
as
a
general
cost.
A
The
and
the
second
question
I'll
just
mention
real
quick.
We
have
had
studies
done
in
the
past
recent
past
from
mcindustry
among
others,
that
has
given
us
an
estimation
on
o
m
costs,
and
we
always
in
we've,
always
understood
that
there
are
two
costs
to
this
cost:
to
build
it
and
cost
to
run
it,
and
we
have
never
neglected
either.
Side
of
that.
K
You
know
something
that
we
often
recommend
on
that
you've
got
your
study
that
was
done
by
a
consulting
group.
We
also
recommend
really
looking
hard
at
other
facilities
that
are
similar
facilities
and
what
they
actually
cost.
So
that
way,
you've
got
in
that
in
the
group
that
did
that
you
know
looked
at
some
of
those,
but
actually
you
know
sitting
down
and
talking
with
them
visiting
with
them
on
how
they
run
it
sort
of
lessons
learned
on
what
they've
done,
how
they've
done
it.
K
For
example,
when
we
were
interviewing
the
architects
we
they
brought
us
this
one
in
in
shakopee
and
talking
to
the
manager
there
he
had.
You
know
very
just
a
lot
of
experience
in
doing
it,
and
so
I
think,
once
we
get
to
that
point,
then
we
sure
want
to
see
their
actual
numbers
and
see
what
they
see
what
it
costs
to
run
it.
So
that
way,
you
aren't
surprised
down
the
road.
A
F
Where
are
we
at
in
the
whole
decision
point
for
the
location
to
know?
If
it's
going
to
be
where
this
will
be
located
and
move
forward,
you
know:
are
there
any
issues
that
we
need
to
be
aware
of,
and
then
the
second
one
is
is
you
know
we
have
some
rough
numbers
as
to
what
we
think
this
thing
could
cost,
whether
it's
you
know
we
can
pick
a
number
15
million,
20
million
25
million,
whatever
the
numbers
are.
F
Do
we
know
how
we're
going
to
fund
this
thing?
How
we're
going
to
finance
it?
Do
we
we
have
options.
What
are
those
options?
How
much
because
it's
going
to
somewhat
what
colin
to
mention
is
is
do
we
have
a
budget
for
this
thing
and
so
that
question
to
me
comes
down
to
what
can
we
afford
and
I
had
mentioned,
I
know
amanda
when
you
and
I
spoke
a
couple
weeks
ago.
F
Probably
the
best
thing
to
happen
to
us
on
our
wellness
center
is
it
went
to
a
vote
of
the
people
and
they
set
the
budget.
That's
the
best
thing
that
happened
to
us,
because
then
we
knew
what
we
were
working
to,
and
so
I'm
kind
of
I'm
wondering.
Where
are
we
at
with
that
whole
process
of
what
can
we
afford
and
then,
where
does
that
put
us
and
what
potential
plans
might
be
coming
back
so.
F
A
That
enters
into
the
speculative
questions,
where
we
don't
want
to
get
lost
in
speculating
when
we
don't
know
a
number.
This
is
why
we're
trying
to
figure
it
out
from
the
architect
from
the
cons
concept,
because
we
don't
know
for
certain
what
it's
going
to
come
in
at
and
what
we
can
maybe
lower
it
down
to
or
anything
like
that,
but
I
know
councilman
buehler
and
I
think
dick
might
have
something
to
say
about
that
as
well.
A
K
And
I
guess
I
would
add
to
that-
is
right
now,
it's
it's
a
very
challenging
time
in
terms
of
cost
estimating
with
what's
happening
with
steel,
pvc,
other
commodities,
and
just
one
big
picture
note
on
on
these
ice
arenas
a
little
bit
different
than
the
wellness
center.
We
had
a
lot
of
options
to
consider
there.
K
The
biggest
thing
on
these
ice
arenas
is
how
the
humidity
is
handled
and
all
the
detailing
and
how
that
all
all
works.
So
you
don't
run
into
problems
down
the
road
and
that
kind
of
sense
sets
a
kind
of
a
line
in
the
sand.
Then
the
variables
get
to
be
on
things
that
are
more
like
how
large
should
the
lobby
be
for
tournaments
and
there
are
some
variables,
but
it's
not
nearly
as
as
as
wide
as
spread
as
it
was
on
the
wellness
center.
M
Thank
you
mayor
mike.
Maybe
I
can
help
with
some
of
that
too.
As
far
as
the
o
m
side
goes,
the
mckinstry
study
from
what
we
found
out
with
the
couple
facilities
that
we
did
visit
in
one
in
fargo,
one
in
shakopee.
They
were
all
pretty
close.
They
were
in
that
that
annual
o
m
was
about
probably
550
to
600
000
range
somewhere
in
that
neck
of
the
woods
as
we
in
regards
to
the
overall
cost
of
the
project.
M
You
know,
we've
had
some
of
those
folks
tell
us
what
it
cost
to
build
those
five
six
years
ago,
so
you
can
kind
of
extrapolate
what
you
think
it's
going
to
get
to.
We
don't
know,
and
we
won't
know
until
we've
put
together
some
sort
of
a
base
plan.
You
know
like
we
talked
about,
you
know,
get
the
the
standard
car
you
know
you're
getting
without
all
the
options,
but
I
think
the
the
next
step
being
the
architect
firm.
M
You
know,
and
we
know
that
we
don't
rely
on
an
architect
firm
to
give
us
a
firm
price,
but
we
get
in
the
ballpark
and
then,
after
that,
I
think
we,
when
we
get
the
construction
side
of
this
engaged,
we'll
have
a
like.
We
did
with
the
wellness
center
mike
we'll
have
a
way
better
picture
of
what
the
overall
cost
would
be.
So.
G
And
I
guess
I
would
just
I'd
like
to
add
too
on
the
on
m
side
with
that
bruce
reference.
Yes,
five
to
six
hundred
thousand
figure
that
we
heard.
But
let's
see
it
was
the
shakopee
when
it's
actually
turning
a
proper
is
it
operates
in
the
black
you
know
similar
and
those
were
the
gross
gross
operating
costs,
but
shaku
is
actually
operating
in
the
black.
I
mean
similar
to
our
well
very
fortunate,
our
wellness
center.
So
but
so
again
those
are
gross
costs
before
any
kind
of
revenue
was
reflected.
K
K
K
G
L
When
we
don't
know
it's
gonna
scare,
a
lot
of
people,
and
so
if
we
get
this
and
it
comes
back
and
it's
30
million
dollars
and
it's
not
functional
as
a
multi-purpose
or
extremely
functional
as
a
multi-purpose
that
I
can
guarantee
our
our
public
is
going
to
say
no
to
that
I
mean
it
just
it.
It
is
we
need
this.
We
need
this
arena.
It's
been
talked
about
for
way
too
long
and
we're.
Finally
at
a
point
where
we're
moving
forward
with
it.
But
from
what
I'm
hearing
is
you
know
it?
L
It
started
at
a
pretty
low
number,
you
know
12
million,
and
then
we
were
hearing
15
million
and
then
now
obviously,
that's
going
to
increase
because
of
the
product
cost.
But
I
that's
what
I'm
more
scared
of.
Is
that
we're
going
to
get
this
estimate
back
and
it's
going
to
just
absolutely
blow
everything
out
of
the
water
and
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
sell
to
the
public.
A
Thank
you
and
that
that
is
a
possibility.
We
don't
know
I
mean
if
the
sticker
shock
comes
in
way
higher
than
what
we
can
stomach,
we
might
have
to
go
to
a
plan
b
plan
c,
I
just
say
we,
or
at
least
me
I'll,
just
speak
for
myself
want
to
be
committed
to
finally
solving
this
problem
in
watertown,
in
whatever
capacity.
However,
this
looks
going
forward.
Let's
just
be
the
people
who
finally
solve
this
and
get
it
get
it
done
for
watertown,
I
will
say
with
cost.
A
J
I'd
just
like
to
provide
a
couple
of
comments,
so
how
we
intend
to
present
this
to
council
from
a
financial
perspective
is
once
we
do
have
estimates
kristin
can
can
run
different
financial
models
for
different
ways
to
pay
for
it.
We
also
know
that
we
are
engaged
in
mou
with
watertown
development
company
and
and
what
that
scenario
would
look
like
until
we
have
a
clear
estimate,
we
can't
provide
a
good
recommendation
to
all
of
you
on
how
to
move
forward.
So
it's
a
little
bit
chicken
in
an
egg.
J
Well,
is
it
20
million
or
is
it
30?
We
just
we
don't
know
and
to
dick's
point
they're
going
to
provide
us
a
base
model
and
then
options
for
enhancements
if
we
decide
that
those
are
appropriate
and
then
we
can
model
out
the
funding
based
on
the
consensus
of
of
the
council
and
then
to
speak
to
your
earlier
question
about
staff
involvement.
J
So
when
we,
when
our
committee
met
today,
I'm
now
the
point
person
for
our
our
owner's
rep
we're
gonna
meet
once
we
get
rolling,
probably
weekly,
and
we
discussed
you
know
bringing
the
appropriate
staff
in
as
needed.
So
if
we
need
to
have
a
financial
discussion,
we'll
bring
kristen
in
if
we've
got
legal
questions,
matt
comes
in
engineering,
etc.
So
that
they're,
not
all
sitting
in
meetings
every
week
that
don't
necessarily
pertain
to
to
their
area
of
expertise.
J
F
F
We
have
a
lot
of
things
on
our
plate
and
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
a
lot
of
them
tonight
and
how
those
all
fit
together
is
ultimately
what
we've
got
to
figure
out,
so
other
things
ice
may
take
a
precedence
over
something
else
based
on
cost
or
something
else
might
take
a
it'd
be
a
higher
priority.
But
ultimately,
if
we
lay
all
of
these
things
out
that
we
have
going
on
and
then
we
with
even
with
rough
numbers,
we
should
have
some
idea
what
we
can
afford
and
again
doesn't
matter
what
that.
F
E
F
That's
not
what
I
was
asking
for,
I'm
wondering
if,
when
we
lay
out
all
these
things,
we've
got
this
and
we've
got
the
the
park,
and
we've
just
talked
about
that
when
we
lay
all
those
things
out.
Ultimately,
we
should
have
an
understanding
of
what
we
can
afford
and
that's
what
I'm
asking
have
we
done
that
and
to
know
approximately
independent
of
what
the
the
bids
come
in
at
do.
We
know
approximately
what
we
can
afford
for
dollars
and
that's
their
that's
where
I'm
asking
really
it's
do
you
see
where
I'm
coming
from
kristen?
F
B
Thank
you,
mayor,
councilman,
down
firth,
so
in
terms
of,
if
we
look
at
what
we
have
on
the
agenda
for
tonight,
the
terminal
that
five
million
dollars
that
is
coming
out
of
the
capital
improvement
fund,
that
was
in
the
budget
that
was
coming
out
of
the
reserves.
So
my
comfort
level
with
the
terminal
is
that
one's
pretty
much
solid,
locked
in
part
of
the
budget,
the
cash
is
there
to
pay
for
that
one
in
terms
of
the
downtown
park
that
was
initially
budgeted
for
2
million
dollars.
B
That
was
also
coming
out
of
the
capital
improvement
fund
reserve
cash
fund.
We
do
know
that
we
did
add
a
million
dollars
to
that
project.
Part
of
that
was
prefaced
with,
as
we
go
into
the
2022
budget,
we
kind
of
know.
We
got
that
extra
million
sitting
out
there,
so
there
again
that
will
probably
be
a
discussion
for
this
council
as
we
go
into
the
2022
budget
to
make
sure
that
that's
accounted
for
in
our
spending.
B
So
at
this
point
I've
only
reached
out
to
take
7.5
million
dollars
of
that.
That
is
to
fund
the
five
million
dollar
estimate
for
the
city
hall,
purchase
and
remodel,
and
then
2.5
is
to
cover
the
10th
avenue
street
improvement
project.
So
that's
currently,
where
we
sit
so
there's
still
7.5
million
dollars
on
the
table
that
hasn't
it's
designated
for
the
street
facility,
but
at
currently
nothing
is
under
contract
for
the
street,
and
I
have
not
taken
that
funding.
I
have
not
issued
those
bonds
at
this
time.
B
So
then,
when
the
questions
asked
about
what
we
can
afford
and
how
the
ice
arena,
that's
where
not
knowing
the
estimate,
it
is
a
difficult
question
to
answer.
We
know
that
if
you
issue
more
debt
than
what
happens,
is
your
current
spending
each
year
goes
down.
That's
that's
kind
of
how
that
capital
improvement
fund
works.
I
will
say
that
there
still
is
5.8
million
dollars
sitting
in
fund
504
504.
That
is
our
8
million.
N
B
That's
sitting
in
our
capital
projects
fund
right
now
and
that
5.8
has
played
into
the
conversations
for
the
ice
arena
in
terms
of
the
lease
with
wdc,
so
that's
kind
of
where
all
the
dollars
are
sitting
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
and
we
get
a
clearer
picture
of
the
ice
and
more
discussion
on
the
street
facility.
I
think
that's
where
that
deeper,
but
as
far
as
the
terminal
and
the
downtown
project,
those
two
to
me
are
clearly
able
to
be
funded.
G
K
So
I
think
the
way
the
process
typically
works
is
we'll
get
the
pricing
on
it
and
then
price
up
some
of
these
options,
I'm
going
to
just
throw
out
one
that
may
or
may
not
be
part
of
it.
But
if
you
have
concerts
in
it
well,
then
you
have
to
have
show
power
and
you
have
the
hvc
changes,
so
you
can
have
it.
K
You
know
for
increased
crowds,
so
they
all
have
a
number
on
it
and
it
early
on
it's
it's
difficult
to
make
decisions
on
this
because
you
gotta
what
I
call
a
want
list
is
probably
a
mile
long
and
then
you
gotta
balance
it
out
with
what
it
does
to
your
other
facilities.
So
you
aren't
sort
of
pushing
people
away
from
another
facility,
but
it
becomes
really
crystal
clear
when
we
say
it's
going
to
cost
you.
K
For
example,
if
you
need
to
have
the
floor
thicker
if
you're
going
to
use
it
for
ag
shows
and
you
want
to
bring
in
tractors
and
combines,
while
you
have
a
thicker
slab
but
we'll
help
us
to
the
cost
and
and
what
do
you
get
for
return
on
it?
So
I
think
those
decisions
will
become
a
lot
more
black
and
white
down
the.
M
Glenn,
I
have
a
comment
to
colin's
question
in
regards
to
multi-purpose,
that
is
that
that's
something
we
we're
trying
to
engage
the
cvb
group
to
to
give
us
some
idea
and
some
things
that
we
may
be
able
to
use
the
facility
for
and
like
dick,
has
alluded
to,
the
costs
that
will
be
associated
with
each
one
of
those
and
how
it's
going
to
have
to
be
engineered
for
those
we
don't
know
what
that
could
be.
It
might
be.
M
None
of
the
above
and
one
thing
we're
going
to
have
to
be
real
careful
about
is
not
cannibalizing
the
facilities
that
we've
got
in
place
right
now.
We
got
to
be
careful
with
that
with
the
event
center
and
with
the
goss
and
a
lot
of
the
other
places
in
town
that
may
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
a
lot
of
those
activities.
So
I
mean
it's
feasible
that
there
may
be
none.
M
A
I
think
my
closing
comment
would
be.
There
are
still
a
lot
there's
a
lot
of
things
to
be
determined,
but
we
are
closer
than
we
have
probably
ever
been
before
in
this
community,
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate.
I
believe
that
the
sentiment
of
the
community
is
to
just
solve
this
issue
so
that
we
can
move
forward
for
the
good
of
watertown
mayor
city
manager,.
J
K
Yeah
the
way
I
understand
it
is
the
site
that
you're
looking
at
has
its
fill
material.
I
looked
at
the
soils
report
and
it's
it's
fill
material.
The
film
material
needs
to
be
completely
taken
out
and
needs
to
be
put
back
with
engineered
fill
and
it's
my
understanding
from
the
way
the
purchase
sort
of
pending
purchase
agreement
would
be
a
place
for
the
wdc.
Is
the
developer
would
deliver
the
site
ready
to
go
and
with
that
would
have
there's
a
group,
that's
aet
american
engineers
and
testing.
K
That's
who
the
developer
is
hired
and
that's
the
firm
we'd
recommend.
So
I
think,
will
the
city
be
pretty
well
protected
on
that
on
the
soils
issue?
So
I
don't
think
that
I
don't
see
an
issue
with
the
soils
issue.
It's
an
issue
for
the
developer,
it's
expensive
for
him
to
compact
the
soil,
to
you
know
the
specification
that
we'll
have
but
after
visiting
with
them,
that's
what
they're
expecting
to
do.
A
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
dick
with
that
we'll
move
on
to
the
downtown
park
or
foundation
plaza
official
name
foundation
plaza
colloquialism
is
downtown
park,
so
we
will
have
two
people
present
on
this.
Our
assistant
city,
engineer,
justin
peterson
and
our
parks
and
rec
director,
terry
kelly.
Take
it
away
justin.
I
I
I
I
The
the
stakeholder
group
is
scheduled
to
meet
next
week
to
discuss
some
of
the
final
items
and
we'll
bring
a
series
of
proposals.
I
guess
that
one
one
proposal
agreement,
I
should
say
that
that's
coming
to
the
council
would
be
utilizing
some
space
here
for
outdoor
for
the
ice,
rink
warming
area
and
and
bathrooms
and
and
other
public
spaces,
and
then
expected
bid
is
roughly
about
thanksgiving
and.
I
O
O
What
we'll
do
following
that
is
kind
of
piece
in
the
operational
side
that
could
be
extra,
seasonal,
part-time
maintenance
staff
or
program
staff,
we're
really
preliminary.
So
we
don't
know
what
that
program.
Aspect's,
gonna
look
like
yet
we're
gonna
partner,
definitely
with
the
the
cbb,
the
chamber
of
commerce,
a
lot
of
different
groups,
so
we
haven't
put
the
program
piece
together.
Example,
thursday
night
live
farmers
markets,
winter
winter
wonderlands,
just
just
a
bunch
of
different
special
events.
So
it's
been
difficult
to
put
a
true
o
m
budget
together.
O
As
far
as
the
second
part
of
the
operational,
really,
the
utilities
really
needs
to
wait.
Almost
till
our
final
design-
and
I
see
you
know
john
and
lyle,
with
confluence-
are
on
with
us,
but
I've
been
working
with
them.
As
far
as
the
recreational
aspect,
it's
hard
to
put
a
number
on
say
the
ice.
We
don't
know
exactly.
You
know
what
size
of
that
sheet
of
ice.
O
We
won't
know
how
to
how
to
budget
for
the
chiller
the
electrical
side
of
that
the
water
same
thing
with
the
splash
part,
our
pad,
not
knowing
what
amenities
we
have,
because
that
would
affect
flow
rates
on
a
pass-through
system.
So
those
numbers
really
are
hard
to
gauge
right
now
without
a
final
concept.
O
So
I
really
can't
put
a
a
firm
grasp
on
what
that
number
is
going
to
look
like,
but
as
we
move
forward
and
work
with
with
confluence
and
and
the
stakeholders
to
to
find
out
what
the
end
product
is
going
to
look
like
I'll
be
able
to
bring
the
council
a
really
firm
number
before
we
get
to
the
process
of
even
probably
close
to
betting.
So
you
know,
I
will
also
see
if
john
or
lyle,
with
confluence
has
anything
to
add,
and
just
to
myself
can
definitely
be
open
to
questions.
A
N
A
N
N
So
from
some
of
our
work.
Examples
like
on
the
downtown
two
falls
river
greenway
and
currently
we're
working
on
a
14
million
dollar
phase.
Three
project
of
that.
That's
going
to
result
in
over
200
million
dollars
of
private
redevelopment
along
the
reach
of
that
and
in
the
first
two
phases
it
was
about
nine
million
dollars
worth
of
improvements
that
resulted
in
over
135
million
dollars
of
private
redevelopment.
N
So
typically,
the
american
planning
association
would
say
that
a
quality
public
space
like
this
would
result
in
a
30
increase
in
property
values,
adjacent
to
parks
and
public
spaces.
So
you
know
from
an
economic
point
of
view.
Typically,
these
spaces
foster
increased
property
values,
increased
tax
revenues
and,
just
like
the
discussion
about
the
ice
rank,
increased
tourism
revenue.
N
L
L
J
That
I
don't
know
that
we're
ever
prepared,
because
staffing
is
just
challenging
across
the
board.
One
thing
that
you
know
we
have
talked
about
internally
is
is
looking
at
sizing
the
departments
so
making
sure
that
we're
not
overstaffed
in
some
areas
and
if
we
are,
how
can
we
shift
to
some
of
the
understaffed
areas?
I
think
that
this
particular
conversation
needs
to
be
a
part
of
our
strategic
planning,
because
you
don't
typically
put
staff
or
ftes
into
a
capital
improvement
plan,
but
they
need
to
be
part
of
the
consideration.
J
A
M
N
Bruce
I
can
assist
in
answering
that
so
there's
a
number
of
flexible
use,
spaces
that
are
associated
with
the
plaza
development.
So
as
an
example,
the
area
up
to
the
south
side
of
county,
fair,
adjacent
to
parkside
place
so
where
that
screen
area
is
at,
though
that
it
was
designed
or
it
is
designed
to
be
able
to.
If
we
want
to
pull
food
trucks
up
there
to
the
back
drop
off
area
along
the
alley,
we
can
do
that.
N
We
can
set
vendor
tents
up
on
the
south
side
of
that,
and
possibly
even
if,
if
the
city
and
stakeholders
feel
that
it's
important
to
potentially
even
bring
food
trucks
in
there,
that
entrance
off
the
alley
could
certainly
accommodate
that.
I
do
know
that,
as
part
of
the
parkside
place
development,
there
is
a
food
service
area
as
part
of
that
building.
That's
designed
to
access
the
plaza
and
then,
of
course,
the
the
main
primary
event
lawn
depending
upon
the
function
that
is
set
up,
could
be
used
to
house
tents
as
well.
N
So
if
you
were
doing
a
small
pedestrian
oriented
farmers
market,
you
could
use
that
space
and
still
maintain
all
the
open
walkways
and,
of
course,
the
stage
area
itself
could
be
used
to
set
up
vendors
depending
upon
the
you
know,
the
particular
event
that
is
as
being
used.
So
really
we
tried
to
develop
the
space
to
be
as
flexible
and
multi-use
as
we
can,
and
then
you
know,
depending
upon
you
know,
a
larger
use.
N
M
M
N
N
It
would
be
our
goal
to
in
strategic
areas
to
plant
larger
trees
than
in
others,
but
also,
if
you
look
at
like
the
water
feature
area,
there
you'll
see
kind
of
three
turquoise
squares
and
those
are
intended
to
be
shade
associated
with
the
play
area
and
the
water
feature
area.
That
said,
it
would
not.
It
would
not
be
unfeasible
to
set
up
temporary
tents
to
provide
shade
in
the
main
event
lawn.
If
there
were,
you
know
a
a
smaller
event
going
on
that
you
know
be
it
music
or
otherwise.
N
That
wasn't
necessarily
super
important
for
sightline
point
of
view
and
then
obviously
we
would
rely
a
certain
level
in
late
day,
sun
for
the
new
parkside
place,
and
you
know
existing
buildings
like
the
community
foundation,
to
provide
some
shade
as
well.
But
there's
no
there's
no
question
about
it.
Right
now
and
the
way
the
space
is
programmed
if
it's
the,
if
it's
the
middle
of
the
day,
you're
going
to
be
looking
for
shade
under
the
primary
stage
or
under
the
trees
and
those
types
of
spaces.
N
So
we
could
incorporate
trees
in
the
primary
event
lawn,
but
right
now
we're
not
doing
that.
Just
because
we're
really
looking
at
a
synthetic
turf
lawn
in
that
kind
of
main
rectangle
there
just
for
to
help
accommodate
the
ice
better
in
perry's
operations
and
maintenance
of
the
park.
That
turf
area
will
get
a
lot
of
use
and
will
experience
a
lot
of
compaction,
and
so
in
theory,
based
on
that
use,
there
would
be
times
that
that
lawn
would
have
to
be
kind
of
shut
down
for
a
few
periods
a
year
to
reinvigorate
the
turf.
N
M
Just
tell
me
just
throwing
this
out,
because
we've
had
experience
with
the
worked
on
the
softball
field
complex,
and
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
pushed
for
was
shade,
and
I
know
there
are
some
shade
structures
that
we've
got
in
place
at
our
our
complexes.
Right
now,
and
I
know
you
can
get
those-
and
I
know
director
kelly's-
probably
not
going
to
like
this,
because
you
got
to
put
those
up
and
take
them
down
every
year,
but
you
may.
M
We
may
want
to
consider
that
for
this,
for
this
area
to
put
some
of
those
temporary
shade
structures
up,
you
know
where
they
do
anchor
the
poles
in
the
ground
and
then
they
they
set
the
canvases
on
top.
I
think,
unless
it's
in
a
view,
obstruction,
which
I
don't
think
it
would
be,
if
you
look
at
one
of
our
our
softball
complexes
here-
that
we
have
we've
got
a
kind
of
a
general
area
where
people
can
congregate.
That
has
a
fairly
large
structure
that
we
use
there.
M
A
I
will
interrupt
at
this
moment.
I
don't
want
to
get
lost
in
everyone
offering
ideas
for
tweaks
for
this
park,
because
I
know
that
we've
gone
through
this-
I
I
know
with
councilman
buehler.
You
can't
take
the
parks
and
recreation
out
of
him.
I
know
that
but
go
ahead,
but
I
know
I
allowed
the
questions
because
I
wanted
to
allow
the
I
wanted
the
council
to
know
some
of
the
questions
that
I
I
want
you
to
be
thinking
of,
because
we
will
have
another
crack
at
this.
A
It's
kind
of
like
with
the
ice
arena
and
a
lot
of
these
projects.
When
the
number
actually
comes
in
when
we
have
a
chance
to
look
at
it,
we
can
then
have
the
discussion.
What,
if
anything,
do
we
want
to
take
out
or
put
in
and
that's
why?
I
encourage
the
council
to
be
thinking
of
their
ideas
as
to
what
they
want
to
see
or
not
see
at
this
location.
N
Yes,
mayor
thanks,
I
would
add
to
that.
Just
like
dick
was
mentioning
your
prior
ice
venue
that
you
know,
construction
prices
are
volatile
right
now,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
as
close
to
a
three
million
dollar
budgeted
project
as
we
can
so
based
on
that,
we
will
have
another
a
number
of
alternates
designed
into
the
project
to
help
facilitate
that
flexibility,
which
you
were
just
speaking
to.
L
A
P
P
P
Okay,
so
kristin
is
passing
out
a
proposed,
well
yeah
she's
handing
down
a
proposed
budget
that
tsp
has
prepared
for
us.
Thank
you
mitch
for
zooming
in
on
that
tonight
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
city
hall
renovation
project
and
our
current
status,
as
well
as
what
we
foresee
going
forward
for
a
timeline.
P
We
do
have
tsp
representatives
on
the
line.
So
if
we
do
have
specific
questions,
they
can
maybe
help
me
with
it.
I
apologize,
I
don't
have
any
fancy
renderings.
I
didn't
know
that
was
criteria,
so
I
apologize
for
that.
I
do
have
plans
if
we
do
want
to
see
them,
but
so,
where
we're
currently
at,
we
have
purchased
the
wells,
fargo
building
right
next
to
us,
and
you
can
see
the
amount
of
purchase
in
the
budget.
P
P
So
if
you
came
into
this
building,
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
maybe
find
the
person
you're
looking
for
or
or
where
you're
going,
so
they
are
looking
at
renovating
the
building.
So
you
have
public
spaces
and
staff
spaces,
but
also
a
council
chambers
that
serves
the
community.
Well,
I
can
develop
into
training
rooms
or
or
council
chambers
that
can
have
larger
meetings
with
overflow
space.
P
P
So,
but
where
we
are
is
we
do
have
a
the
design
with
the
public
spaces
and
the
staff
space
is
kind
of
pretty
well
set
so
timeline
for
the
budget.
That's
in
front
of
you
is
actually
looking
to
go
out
to
bid
late,
late,
fall
or
late
spring
early
fall
and
then,
if
we
get
approval
of
the
bid,
we'd
probably
look
at
construction
happening
late
winter
to
2022
somewhere
in
there,
and
then
we
do
have
intentions
to
bring
this
to
council
for
approval
to
go
to
bid.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Marcie
and
you've
already
answered
the
question
that
I
always
kick
off
with
the
other
thing.
I
said
you
touched
upon
something
that
I
think
is.
I
would
like
to
remind
all
the
council.
Members
of
this
is
we,
as
the
elected
leaders
always
but
especially
under
the
new
form
of
government,
are
tasked
as
the
visionaries
for
the
city
of
watertown.
What
do
we
want
and
part
of
that
is
with
the
city
hall
or
with
all
of
these
topics
tonight
it's.
What
is
the
city?
A
F
P
D
P
P
F
The
other
one
I
was
wondering
about
is:
if
we
have
what
has
been
our
thoughts
in
regards
to
this
facility
and
what's
going
to
happen
to
it,
and
what
is
that
cost
going
to
be?
I
think
we
got
three
options
right,
we
sell
it,
we
use
it
or
we
tear
it
down
and
most
likely
we're
going
to
tear
down
make
a
parking
lot
out
of
it.
I
would
guess,
but
but
whatever
it
ends
up
being.
F
P
Thank
you
councilman
danforth,
so
I
would
address
that,
as
we
don't
have
a
plan
at
this
time,
because
that's
not
necessarily
something
that's
been
discussed
with
me
throughout
the
committee
meetings.
Maybe
it
was
discussed
before,
but
I
haven't
followed
up
on
it.
You
are
correct.
There
really
is
those
three
options
and
as
we
move
forward,
we
would
be
discussing
that
from
a
community
standpoint.
I
know
with
the
downtown
park
coming.
People
probably
will
be
looking
for
more
parking.
P
J
I
don't
know
if
I'll
speak
to
it
well,
but
I
will
try.
I
I
think
part
of
the
plan
is
once
we
have
a
clear
timeline
on
when
we're
bidding
this
project
and
when
we
anticipate
being
able
to
move
in
because
then
we
can
have
more
in-depth,
in-depth
discussions
about
this
facility
because
moving
is,
is
one
of
the
is
one
of
the
challenges.
There's
a
lot
of
stuff
in
the
basement.
There's
a
lot
of
files,
and
so
if
we
sell
it
to
someone
do
we
have
to
be
out.
J
L
P
G
Would
just
make
the
comment.
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
council
and
bueller
here,
but
as
as
sitting
on
that
committee,
we've
questioned
a
number
of
times
throughout
the
process
that
do
we
really
need
all
this
all
this
space.
So
the
short,
the
short
answer
to
your
question-
councilman
paulson,
is
yes:
there
is
room
for
growth.
F
P
P
Yeah,
so
we
have
265
allocated
at
this
time,
and
actually,
I
would
say
we
are
meeting
with
the
she's,
not
the
architect
but
she's
doing
the
furniture
interior
designer.
Thank
you.
We
are
meeting
with
her
next
week
when
heath
is
back
to
go
over
that.
I
actually
worked
on
the
wastewater
facility
project
and
I
saw
what
their
furnishing
and
finishing
came
in
at,
and
I've
actually
addressed
that
with
tsp
already
that,
I'm
not
sure
about
that
that
line
item,
but
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
look
into
it
further.
A
Q
Q
A
few
highlights
in
that
so
and
also
at
the
end,
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
little
timeline
that
they
worked
on
and
hopefully
that'll
give
you
an
idea
what
we're
looking
to
push
for
to
get
this
project
moving
a
current
facility
right
over
here.
A
few
of
you
guys
been
here.
Few
people
have,
but
it
was
built
in
1956
on
five
acres
of
land
and
of
that
3.8
is
in
the
flood
plain
and
1.4
of
that
is
in
the
floodway.
Q
So
that
part
is
we
can't
build
on
that
part
to
do
anything
with
that,
so
this
site
currently
has
six
permanent
buildings,
which
include
three
that
are
heated
for
and
that
equals
twelve
thousand
nine
hundred
square
feet.
Two
of
the
three
buildings
are
not
insulated
that
we
heat
that's
the
way
they
did
it
back.
Then
I
guess.
But
and
then
we
also
have
three
cold
storage.
Buildings
equals
twelve
thousand
five
hundred
square
feet,
which
also
includes
our
sand
and
salt
dome.
Q
Q
We
don't
have
a
truck
scale
at
this
time.
So
a
lot
of
times
we
have
to
estimate
materials
coming
in
and
going
out
when
it
has
to
be
more
accurate.
We
weigh
our
trucks
either
out
at
donex
or
the
landfill
and
that's
costly.
Just
in
the
time
it
takes
to
run
out
to
those
places
to
weigh
materials
so
due
to
lack
that
of
indoor
space
for
our
machinery,
we're
forced
to
machine
our
store
machines
in
off-site
storage.
Q
Q
We
definitely
have
issues
with
getting
them
running,
sometimes
the
other
thing.
With
hydraulic
fluid
when
it's
cold,
it
does
not
function
well
in
the
machine
and
you're
running
anywhere
from
35
to
60
gallons
of
hydraulic
fluid,
and
it
takes
one
to
two
hours
to
warm
that
up
to
where
the
machine
functions
properly
and
doesn't
have
extreme
pressures
blowing
hoses
that
type
of
thing,
so
we
do
have
a
lot
of
issues
with
that
in
the
winter
time.
Q
It's
probably
the
number
one
issue
we
have
is
getting
machines
running
that
that
are
just
too
cold
and
blowing
hoses.
So
on
the
new
facility
information
heath
and
I
have
been
working
on
this
project
together
for
the
last
two
years,
we
established
very
preliminary
estimates
based
on
similar
regional
facilities.
Q
Q
That
definitely
would
help
get
us
where
we
need
to
be,
but
we
we
still
have
a
lot
of
leg
work
to
do
to
get
to
a
point
where
we're
to
know
exactly
what
it's
going
to
take
to
build
this.
So
we
currently
have
several
sites
in
mind
and
we
are
working
on
narrowing
in
that
down,
based
on
the
cost
of
the
land.
Q
Current
infrastructure
and
location
definitely
helps
if
we
have
current
infrastructure,
such
as
sewer
and
water
nearby,
because
it
can
be
quite
spendy
to
run
that,
as
you
all
know,
and
we're
looking
at
10
to
15
acres
would
be
ideal
for
us.
15
acres
would
really
be
good
because
it
allow
room
for
growth
and
stockpiling
area,
which
is
really
needed.
The
five
acres
we
have
here,
which
it's
it's
just
not
even
close
to
enough.
Q
Q
Q
New
new
facility,
of
course,
you're
going
to
have
storm
water,
detention,
fence,
sanitary
sewer,
water,
natural
gas,
electricity,
fiber
optic
lines
and,
of
course,
you're
gonna
have
miscellaneous
tools
and
office
furniture
to
finish
yourself.
Now,
if
you,
if
you
look
on
the
last
sheet
of
that
summary,
you'll,
see
some
numbers
which
talk
about
some
of
the
breakdown
of
the
cost
of
land.
Q
You
know
the
main
building
we're
looking
at
allocating
4
million.
For
that
fence.
We
figure
a
hundred
thousand
will
cover
that
defense
in
the
facility,
overhead
train,
crawley
system,
80,
000
truck
scale,
125
000,
the
sanitary
sewer
hookups,
that's
really
gonna
and
and
storm
water
and
water
electric
gas.
All
that
is
going
to
really
depend
on
where
we
go,
that
part's
really
up
in
here,
sand
salt,
chemical
building,
a
hoop
building-
I
was
talking
about
125
000-
should
cover
that,
of
course,
hard
surfacing
throughout
the
facility
outside
the
building.
Q
300
000
is
what
we've
allocated
for
that
wash
bay.
That's
one
thing
we
currently
don't
have
is
a
wash
bay
in
the
summer,
we're
able
to
wash
our
equipment
outside
here
and
that's
fine
and
dandy,
but
in
the
winter,
when
we're
trying
to
clean
salt
off
the
machines,
it's
a
struggle.
We
drive
out
to
cynics
with
their
equipment
and
run
through
their
truck
wash
bay,
or
sometimes
we
hire
titan
out
here
to
wash
our
equipment
and
their
big
truck
bay.
Q
That
will
be
nice
having
a
truck
truck
wash
it's
very
important
and
the
equipment
we
get.
You
know
it's
our
equipment's
expensive
and
to
keep
it
clean
is
important.
Keep
it
from
rusting
that
type
of
thing,
especially
the
rust,
the
salt
and
the
calcium
chloride
and
stuff
that
we
use
it's
it's
highly
corrosive,
so
we
try
to
get
it
off
as
soon
as
we
can,
but
as
far
as
the
timeline
you'll
see
below
a
timeline
for
states.
Q
Basically,
we
talk
about
prep
for
rfps,
you
know,
and
it
shows
like
we're,
an
anticipated
deadline
for
these
things.
August
13th
rfp,
submitted
back
to
us
september,
10th,
review
and
site
completion
september
27th
council
approval
for
of
rfps
october
4th
established
preliminary
architectural
estimate,
probable
costs
october
22nd,
then
preliminary
and
final
designs
in
between
that
four
months
in
there
up
to
february
22
construction
documents
and
bidding
march
25th
acceptance
of
bids
and
notice
to
proceed
april,
19th
and
then
break
ground
in
june
of
22..
Q
Q
One
thing
that
in
the
winter
time,
by
having
machines
in
a
heated
space
is,
is
I
just
can't
express
how
important
that
is
in
the
winter
time,
especially
but
to
clear
snow
faster,
get
to
it
faster,
less
downtime,
speed
and
efficiency
will
be
increased
in
the
winter
time
by
having
a
facility
where
we
can
keep
our
our
snow
equipment
in
a
heated
area,
and
really
you
know,
starting
equipment
in
a
heated
area
is
so
much
easier.
You
don't
have
to
plug
them
in
they
start
up
all
the
hydraulic.
Q
Q
Q
Let's
see
we're
able
to
start
plowing
sooner
when
when
we
start
machines
that
are
in
our
shop
at
60
degrees
or
so
60
65,
depending
on,
if
we
know
we're
going
to
be
plowing,
we
turn
it
up
get
a
little
bit
warmer
in
there.
So
our
machines
are
warm,
but
you
can
start
them
up
and
a
minute
later,
you
can
be
out
the
door
when
we're
outside
with
our
machines
or
in
the
cold
storage
building.
Q
Q
A
Q
Right,
stockpiling,
materials
on
site,
one
thing
that
we
do
have
right
now,
if
you've
noticed
a
big
chip
pile
outside
here.
These
are
chips
that
we've
swept
up
after
chip
seals
and
we
stockpiled
them
last
fall.
We
purchased
a
spray
patcher
from
brookings
a
used
machine
and
we're
currently
this
week.
This,
let's
see
earlier
this
week,
was
the
first
time
or
last
week
that
we
used
it
and
that's
the
material
we're
going
to
be
running
through
that,
but
really
in
the
in
the
summertime
stockpiling
material
for
fixing
roads.
Q
You
know
anything
direct
how
it's
going
to
help
improve
potholes.
I
I
don't
have
anything
furry
off
the
top
of
my
head
right
now.
It's
you
know.
Keeping
equipment
indoors
is
a
big
deal
as
far
as
like
I
was
saying
earlier
earlier
today
that
you
know
our
latest
motor
greater
cost.
300
was
almost
330
thousand
dollars
and
to
have
that
type
of
machinery
sitting
outside
summer
or
winter.
You
know,
you're,
looking
at
a
rot
of
tires,
rot
up
hoses
fading.
Q
C
Q
Q
C
Q
Yeah
yeah.
Definitely
there
definitely
would
be
a
savings
by
having
that
having
machinery
in
as
far
as
maintenance
goes
in
our
current,
our
current
facility
is,
is
not
efficient.
You
know
two
buildings
that
we
heat,
that
we
have
to
heat
they're,
brick
buildings.
They
were
built
in
the
50s
and
they're,
not
insulated,
so
you
know
our
utility
bills.
I'm
sure
kristen
probably
have
a
pretty
good
handle
on
that
too.
But
I'm
sure
our
utility
bills
for
gas
is
is
probably
higher
than
most
facilities
that
the
city
has.
Q
Foreign,
but
we
will
have
due
to
the
fact
that
we
will
be
running
equipment
indoors.
We're
gonna
have
to
have
some
ventilation
system.
Also,
you
know
working
on
equipment
and
having
to
fire
them
up,
rather
than
just
pulling
them
out
of
the
shop
there's
a
lot
of
times.
We
have
to
fire
them
up
to
to
do
repairs
and
whatnot,
so
there
will
have
to
be
unsure
an
exhaust
ventilation
system
for
for
our
facility.
G
Well,
not
a
question,
but
a
comment
for
you:
rob
I've
been
out
to
your
facilities
several
times
over
the
course
of
my
time
in
the
council,
and
I
just
cringe
when
I
see
the
expensive
piece
equipment
that
we've
got
sitting
around
out
there.
I
know
six
seven
and
a
half
million
dollars,
that's
a
lot
of
money,
but
I
I
got
to
commend
you
and
your
staff
for
making
do
with
what
you've
got
out
there
and
the
dollars
that
you
are
entrusted
with
that
are
sitting
out
in
the
elements.
Q
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
we
we
do
try
very
hard
the
staff
in
the
winter
time,
especially
you
guys,
would
laugh
if
you
came
over
to
the
shop
before
winter
storms
coming
in,
because
we
have
all
the
loader
buckets
off
of
our
loaders
and
you
cannot
walk
between
them
in
our
main
shop.
You
you
have
to
weave
your
way
through,
because
we
have
loader
booms
touching
each
other,
with
no
buckets
on
them
to
get
everything
in.
Q
A
Thank
you
rob
I've
always
been
a
super
mario
man
myself.
Any
questions
from
the
council
any
further
questions.
Thank
you
very
much,
superintendent.
Bainen
with
that
we
will
close
the
discussion
of
those
capital
improvement
projects
and
move
on
to
discussion
of
council
and
staff
retreat.
For
that
we
will
go
to
our
city
manager.
J
When
I
met
with
with
all
of
you
prior
to
taking
office,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
scheduling
a
council
staff
retreat
where
we
could
talk
through
things
like
communication
and
how
do
we
communicate
with
one
another
and
committees
and
boards
and
commissions
those
types
of
things.
So
I'd
like
to
get
a
half
day
work
session
on
the
calendar.
J
J
Just
excuse
me
session
around
council
staff
communications,
because
this
is
a
new
form
of
government
and
we
want
to
you
know
we
don't
want
to
impede
how
we're
communicating
with
one
another,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
it
the
right
way
and
is
willing
to
kind
of
share
how
things
how
things
flowed
in
brookings.
If
you
are
open
to
that,
he
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
asked
before
I
I
just
scheduled
him,
but
he
has
availability.
J
The
week
of
august
9th
and
so
I'd
like
you
to
look
at
your
calendars,
I'd
like
to
do
a
half
day,
either
starting
at
noon
or
starting
it
at
eight
and
going
until
noon
and
we'll
have
jeff
come
and
visit
with
us
a
little
bit,
and
then
I
have
some
some
other
things
that
we
need
to
really
talk
about.
Like
I
said,
committees
boarding
the
commissions,
these
work
sessions.
How
do
you
like
them?
J
How
do
you
want
them
to
work,
but
also,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very
important
if
we
come
out
of
that
with
some
clear
90-day
goals,
specifically
around
the
transition
to
the
new
form
of
government,
and
what's
that
look
like,
and
what
can
the
public
expect
now
that
we're
all
in
place
and
we've
had
a
little
bit
of
time
to
get
our
feet
under
us?
I
feel,
like
the
fire
department,
just
backed
a
hose
into
my
office,
and
it's
just
coming
at
me.
So
I'm
sure
the
rest
of
you
feel
the
same
way.
J
G
Just
a
comment,
I
I
I'm
not
typically
a
big
fan
of
of
retreats,
but
I
think
this
is
one
where,
where
it
definitely
would
be
worth
the
time
well
spent-
and
I
I
would
second
the
idea
of
having
mr
weldon
I've
gotten
know
him
over
the
course.
The
last
three
years
as
we
were
contemplating
or
the
home
rule
charter
review
committee,
was
contemplating
revisions
or
changes
to
how
we
operate,
and
so
I
I
reached
out
and
communicated
with
him
quite
often
over
the
course,
the
last
several
years.
C
J
We
would
we
would
publicize
it
as
a
as
a
public
meeting,
I'm
not
sure
which
facility
we
would
hold
it
in
here
or
at
another
boardroom
in
town,
I'm
not
requesting
that
you
know
we
go
someplace,
fun
and,
and
it's
open
to
the
public.
I
mean
they're
welcome
to
attend
if
they
like
and
and
the
press,
it's
just
a
more
informal
setting
rather
than
an
agendized
here's.
Where
we're
taking
action
so
yeah
we
would.
We
would
make
sure
that
we
meet
those
requirements.
A
J
Right,
oh
sorry,
I
was
gonna
say
I
also
have
homework
for
all
of
you
in
preparation
for
that
and
and
maybe
matt
can
speak
a
little
more
to
the
seventh
put
him
on
the
spot.
So
the
city
of
brookings
has
what
they
call
their
governance
and
ends
policies
and
it's
a
document
that
they
created
as
they
were
transitioning
into
the
city
manager
form
of
government
20
years
ago.
When
they
went
through
that-
and
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
great
starting
place
for
some
of
our
discussions.
J
If
there
are
specific
parts
of
it
that
you
think
we
definitely
should
pull
out
and
have
a
more
in-depth
discussion
about.
Please
let
me
know
we'll
make
sure
that
that's
included
in
the
agenda
and
make
sure
jeff
is
prepped
to
discuss
that,
so
it
won't
take
you
long
to
read
it.
It
didn't
take
me
long
so.
C
J
L
J
J
A
I
will
even
open
this
up,
not
just
for
council
for
council.
I
encourage
you
if
there's
something
that
we
need
to
discuss
at
this.
We
can,
if
the
public
has
had
any
ideas
as
well.
I
mean
your
input
is
always
welcome
with
anything
that
the
council
does
so
with
that.
The
next
topic
is
items
for
future
agendas.
F
J
I
think
that's,
I
think,
that's
the
best
and
then
we
can
disseminate
it.
However,
it'd
be
helpful
if,
in
that
correspondence,
you
know
if
you
give
a
preference
like
I'd
like
to
see
this
at
a
work
session.
I'd
like
to
see
this
on
a
planning
commission,
for
example.
Just
so
we
understand
you
know
the
priority
of
it
but
yeah.
I
think
that's
a
good
way
to
to.
F
Into
the
election,
people
talked
to
you
and
then
now
that
you
know
we
are
seated
so
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
just
get
thrown
at
you,
and
so
maybe
the
best
point
is
to
get
it
sent
to
you
with
description
or
or
whatever,
and
you
get
it
out
to
whomever
within
the
departments
and
such
okay
all
right.
Thank
you.