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City Council Meeting- 11-7-2022
A
C
Thank
you.
Please
join
me
in
prayer,
our
great
and
Heavenly
God.
Our
hearts
are
full
with
gratitude
this
evening,
we've
so
much
to
be
thankful
for
tomorrow
we
vote
in
this
great
land
and-
and
we
know
that,
even
though
in
our
own
community
that
we're
all
different
that
we
are
united
with
our
love
for
this
area,
we're
in
this
love
for
Watertown
God,
we're
thankful
for
those
who
keep
us
safe
at
night.
We
thank
you
for
the
law
enforcement
with
the
Watertown
Police
Department
and
the
sheriff's
department
God.
C
We
thank
you
for
the
fire
department,
the
firefighters
and
the
EMTs
and
paramedics
that
watch
over
us
as
well,
and
we
have
so
many
great
services
in
this
town.
We
often
take
them
for
granted
and
we're
sorry
about
that,
but
we
do
want
to
say
right
now.
Thank
you
for
everything
and
thank
you
for
a
time
we
can
celebrate
Thanksgiving
and
may
it
linger
in
our
hearts
throughout
the
year,
and
we
thank
you
for
all
these
things
in
this
time.
Together
now
in
Jesus
name,
we
pray,
amen.
D
E
F
D
F
B
Gorham
has
established
the
chair
will
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
tonight's
consent
agenda
with
one
change
item
C.
We
have
had
a
request
to
take
it
off
of
consent
and
put
it
on
the
regular
agenda.
We
will
put
it
at
the
end
of
tonight's
agenda
items
with
that
said.
The
motion
to
approve
tonight's
consent
agenda
a
motion
made
by
councilman
Dan
for
a
second
by
councilman
Paulson,
any
discussion
on
that
Council
hearing
none.
The
motion
is
to
councilman
vilhauer
I
was
sorry.
I
was
speeding
a
log.
F
D
B
You
thank
you
all
right.
Any
further
conversation
on
that
hearing.
None.
The
motion
is
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
All
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
post
saying
a
motion
carries
excuse
me
now
is
the
time
for
public
comments.
If
anyone
is
here
who
would
like
to
address
the
Council
on
something
that
is
not
on
tonight's
agenda,
now
is
your
time
to
do
so.
B
You
know
one
come
forward.
I'll
close
the
public
comment,
section
move
it
to
a
motion
to
approve
tonight's
agenda
motion
made
by
councilman
Danforth
seconded
by
councilman,
Bueller
I,
believe
it
was.
Okay
was
it
that
are
you?
Okay
with
that
yeah?
Okay?
Well,
any
discussion
on
that
hearing.
None!
The
motion
is
to
approve
the
agenda.
D
B
B
B
Hearing
on
the
motion
is
to
approve
the
application.
All
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
say,
nay
motion
carries
Item
B.
There
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
change
in
the
wording
of
this
one,
so
I
will
ask
for
and
emotion.
We
don't
need
to
amend
it,
because
if
I
read
it
incorrectly,
read
it
in
correctly,
not
incorrectly,
then
that
will
be
the
motion
that
we
will
accept.
G
Thank
you,
mayor,
we'll.
Have
our
Public
Works
director
speak
to
the
the
contract
directly,
but
we
do
have
a
guest
with
us
this
evening.
Dick
Strasberg
with
Tegra
group
is
here
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
the
project
as
it
sits
today
and
what
to
expect
going
forward
both
from
process
perspective,
as
well
as
future
items
that
the
council
may
be
asked
to
take
action
on
so
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Heath,
but
I.
H
Thank
you
manager,
Mack,
so,
yes,
tonight's
action.
It's
really
a
lot
the
same
as
any
other
contract
amendment
that
we
use
for
our
design
professionals
on
our
other
City
projects,
this
one's
a
little
bit
unique
because
of
the
scope
and
nature
of
the
project
here
we're
dealing
with
the
nearly
36
36
and
a
half
million
dollar
Ice
Arena
project.
So
with
that
scope
of
work,
we've
opted
to
hire
what's
called
an
owner's
rep.
That
owner's
representative
is
Tegra
group
and
we've
had
taker
group
on
board.
H
Since
the
early
scoping
planning
and
designing
of
this
ice
arena,
project
they've
been
instrumental
in
landing.
Our
architect,
which
is
292
our
construction
manager
at
risk,
who's,
who
is
RJM
and
a
lot
of
behind
the
scenes,
work
well
beyond
that.
So
what
this
action
here
tonight
we'll
do
is
amend
their
formal
initial
contract
and
add
in
what
is
known
as
Construction
Services
for
some
continued
owners,
rep
services
to
be
provided
to
the
city.
H
Again,
with
this
being,
like
any
other
Capital
project
that
we
run
internally
through
the
engineering
division,
we
always
assign
a
internal
City
staff
member
as
the
project
manager.
In
this
case,
it's
Justin
Peterson,
the
assistant
city,
engineer
and
myself
are
tandemly
taking
on
that
role
and
we
work
hand
in
hand
with
tiger
group
and
our
design
professionals
to
see
everything
through
and
check
everything
off
all
along
the
way.
So
it
helps
make
sure
that
the
project
is
in
good
hands
and
all
the
eyes
are
dotted
and
T's
are
crossed
with
that.
H
This
amendment
would
be
to
the
tune
of
286
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
I
wanted
to
highlight
that
it
also
includes
a
subcontract
with
rscs
they're,
an
organization
that
helped
with
the
initial
commissioning
of
the
operations
aspects
of
the
building
they've
already
chimed
in
ahead
of
their
contract,
with
the
help
and
selection
of
a
Zamboni
machine,
for
example,
they're
very
highly
knowledgeable
and
in
ice
arena
operations,
so
take
Tegra
has
plugged
them
in
as
a
sub-consultant
to
them
and
would
be
included
in
this
contract
with
Tegra.
H
With
all
that
being
said,
I
will
pass
it
over
to
dick
who
is
here
this
evening,
and
he
is
the
president
founder
of
the
tiger
group,
and
it's
been
a
pleasure
to
work
with.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
him
through
the
completion
of
the
construction
phase
here
pending
the
agreement
of
his
contract
tonight,.
I
Currently
you
know
working
to
hit
the
footings
board,
so
I
think
that's
going
very
well
and
also
I
think
we
should
comment
just
on
on
the
community's
ability
to
raise
money
so
I've
been
in
this
business
for
39
years.
I've
never
seen
anything
like
this.
This
community
wants
this
project
because
the
amount
of
money
has
been
raised
since
August
is,
is
pretty
staggering
and
I
think
that's
hats
off
to
everybody
involved
on
this.
I
Clearly
you
have
Community
Support
on
this
by
the
amount
of
money
that
is
has
been
raised,
so
I
think
that's
a
congratulation
to
everybody
involved
on
that.
So
I
thought
just
make
a
few
comments
on
just
the
overall
structure
on
this
on
how
how
a
typical
project
like
this
runs
now
in
terms
of
what
your
involvement
as
a
as
a
council
is,
you
know,
will
be
going
forward.
I
So
first,
we
look
at
just
maybe
a
few
comments
just
on
the
structure
of
the
project
management,
how
it,
how
how
it
works
when
there's
a
city
manager
involved
because
that's
you
know
many
cities
now
are
having
city
managers
and
that
changes
a
few
things
in
terms
of
how
how
these
projects
are
sometimes
managed.
So,
first,
we've
got
we'll
use
Amanda
Mack
as
a
city
manager
and
her
role
we
I'm
going
to
say
how
we
typically
see
it
and
that's
up
to
you
on
how
you
how
you
execute
it.
I
But
what
we
typically
see
is
the
city
manager
in
that
role.
They
are
the
the
executive
over
oversight
on
the
project.
So
that's
who
we
go
to
if
there's
problems,
should
we
pull
her
in
when
there's
problems
and
we
keep
her
abreast
on
what's
going
on,
but
not
involved
in
the
day-to-day?
Then
it
goes
to
the
engineering
department
to
get
involved
on
the
day-to-day,
for
especially
on
the
internal
operations
on
it.
So
in
this
case
it's
Heath
and
and
Justin.
So
then
they're
involved
on
everything
internal.
I
So
the
way
it
typically
works
is
Tegra
is
you
know
we're
hired
as
a
really
an
extension
of
the
staff.
That's
our
job,
we're
extension
of
of
your
staff.
It
just
happens
to
be:
we've
got
real
large
project
experience,
so
we
can
help
out
on
on
larger
projects,
and
in
this
case,
we've
would
say
that
it's
the
internal
piece
of
it
of
of
how
it
will
work
with
with
your
staff,
is,
for
example,
when
you
have
a
an
invoice
come
in,
we
record
we
go
through
the
invoice
and
we
have
a
stamp.
I
We
put
on
every
invoice
that
says
recommended
for
approval.
That
means
we've
looked
at
it
and
it's
we've
checked
it
against
the
contracts
and
to
make
sure
sure
that
it's
it's
in
alignment
with
that,
and
then
we
negotiate.
If
there's
any
any
issues
that
are,
you
know
that
are
not.
If
it's,
if
it's
incorrect,
then
it
would
go
to
Justin.
Justin
would
take
it
and
approve
it.
Then
it
would
do
in
this
case,
go
to
Kirsten
and
get
paid.
I
We
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
it
once
it
goes
to
Justin,
then
he
takes
care
of
it
on
that
side
of
it.
We
do
do
the
project
accounting,
so
we
keep
all
the
accounting
for
the
actual
management
of
the
project,
but
that's
different
than
your
city,
accounting,
which
is,
is
more
your.
Your
typical
process,
you
have
of
paying
bills
so
I
think
it's
important
to
just
know
kind
of
how
it's
typical
on
a
project
management
front
on
it
and
I
think
we've
got
it.
I
We've
worked
together
long
enough
now,
where
we've
got
it
pretty
well,
honed
in
in
terms
of
who's
responsible
for
doing
what
on
that
and
and
how
that
breaks
out
in
the
in
the
role.
Usually
it
kind
of
morphs
as
you
go
through
a
project,
but
the
analogy
that
I've
often
given
is
it's
similar
to
Parenting
children.
In
terms
of
how
you
divide
that
responsibility,
you
know
you
get
some
general
parameters
on
how
you're
going
to
do
it,
but
you
probably
both
get
involved.
I
If
there's
a
big
issue
and
I
think
that's
how
this
works
as
well,
we've
involved
the
staff
on
it.
If
it's
certain
issues
and
other
ones
we
just
handle
it
other
things
they
just
handle
it
so
I
think
that's
how
how
it's
set
up
on
this
one
and
we
feel
real
good
about
that
and
kind
of
where
that's
at
today.
So
if
we
look
at
the
other
point,
I'd
make
out
may
want
to
make
here
is
is
in
terms
of
what
your
role
is
so
I
think,
there's
there's
number
one.
I
It's
Amanda's
role
is
to
keep
you
informed
on
how
the
Project's
going
so
then
she
will
choose
to
maybe
she
brings
brings
tegreen
or
maybe
her
staff
members
in
to
periodically
give
you
updates
and
those
updates
can
happen
as
as
often
as
you
want
it
oftentimes
you
hit
kind
of
The
Benchmark.
So
right
now
you
know,
there's
not
there's
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
nitty-gritty
that
happens
on
a
project
and
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
right.
I
Now,
with
you
know,
getting
everything
involved
to
get
the
thing
out
of
the
ground,
but
when
it
starts
to
get
to
other
points,
you
know
just
generally
keeping
you
abreast
of
what's
going
on.
So
that's
that's
number
one
number
two
is
we
recommended
this,
the
75
000,
as
so
anything
bigger
than
75
000
as
a
contract?
It
goes
to
you
for
approval
and
that's
what
we
typically
see
on
these
projects.
We
have
seen
it
between
50
and
100
I.
Think
Brookings
has
it
as
75
is
there
they've
got
a
a
process?
I
That's
you
know
that
takes
it
from
for
I
think
every
contract
within
the
city.
It's
it's!
If
it's
over
75
000,
it
goes
back
to
council
so
that
that
would
be
typical
and
I
think
on
a
project
like
this.
That's
what
we
typically
see
something
like
that
and
then
so,
if
you
look
at
big
picture,
what's
all
in
a
contract
most
of
it's
under
contract
right
now,
obviously
we
got
the
large
contract
with
RJM.
We've
got
other
smaller
ones
that
will
be
coming.
I
A
few
of
those
will
be
just
even
some
administrative
things
as
an
example
on
that
is
JLG
who
competed
with
292
to
get
this
project.
Well
now
JLG
has
acquired
292.
So
that's
going
to
be
an
amendment
to
the
contract.
It's
a
zero
cost
change,
but
it's
Amendment
to
the
contract
that'd
be
something
that
that
would
not
come
back
to
guys.
That
would
go
directly
to
the
city
manager
and,
if
there's
something
bigger
that
comes
up
we're,
we
may
have
some
of
this
the
fixtures,
furniture
and
equipment
that
piece
on
it.
I
For
example,
we
had
the
Zamboni
we've
ordered
them
Zamboni
right
now,
because
it's
almost
a
year
lead
time.
So
that'd
be
something
larger
that
would
go.
Go
to
you
then
so
that
would
be
our
recommendation
on
it
and
then
I
think
we'd
also
say
that
that
anything
that
affects
the
overall
budget
you've
approved
a
budget
here
this
36
roughly
36.5
million.
If
it
goes
a
penny
over
that
everything
goes
back
to
you
guys
everything.
So
everything
goes
to
the
council
if
it
goes
over
the
project
total,
and
that
is
if
it
goes
over.
I
The
total
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
everybody
on
the
staff
is
involved.
Everybody
on
the
council
is
involved,
so
we
that
would
be
very
typical.
That
means
every
anything
that
would
push
it
over.
Everything
goes
to
that
now.
We
haven't
had
that
happen
now,
so
that
we
don't
have
experience
in
doing
that.
Let's
hope
we
don't
hear
either,
but
I
think
we're
I,
think
that's.
We
would
recommend
that
everything
goes
back
to
you
at
that
point,
then
also
anything
that
would
change
the
the
end
date.
I
The
end
date
of
mid-December,
so
anything
would
go
back
too
if
it's
going
to
extend
out
the
project.
So
that's
kind
of
the
overview
of
where
we
are
projects
on
I
think
you
know
it's
moving
ahead
right
now,
with
the
foundations
on
on
track
and
a
lot
of
things
are
happening
as
far
as
getting
ordered.
There's
long
lead
times
on
a
lot
of
items,
so
that's
what's
being
worked
out
right
now,.
B
J
Bueller,
thank
you
dick
thanks
for
coming
tonight.
Sure
and
we've
had
the
luxury
of
working
together
for
some
time.
We
did
the
wellness
center
and
just
felt
like
he
did
a
great
job
for
us.
There
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
people,
especially
the
listeners,
that
the
work
that
you've
done
coordinating
our
visits.
We've
had
a
number
of
folks
on
the
council
and
people
from
the
staff
that
have
had
the
opportunity
to
visit
some
other
ice
arenas
around
the
Upper,
Midwest
and
and
to
pick
people's
brains.
J
So
there's
a
lot
of
effort
that
goes
into
that
coordinating
all
those
things
negotiating
the
contracts
that
you
did
got
us
in
good
pricing
position,
I
think
with
the
with
the
Architects
and
and
as
well
as
the
construction
management
firm
and
interview,
those
folks
to
try
to
get
us
the
best
people
possible
for
doing
that.
So
you
know
I
think
those
are
some
real
key
key
things
that
you
helped
us
through,
and
thank
you
worth
the
money.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
so
my
understanding
is
is
that
there
could
be
any
number
of
of
amendments
that
could
occur
that
are
75
or
less
less
than
75.,
and
as
long
as
it
stays
within
the
budget,
those
would
so
you
could
have
10
of
them.
I
just
wrote
a
number,
and
so
it's
any
number
and
it
could
be
any
contractor
correct
it,
wouldn't
be
it's
not
just
with
you
guys
it
would
be
any
contractor.
Okay
is
FF
e
included
in
our
overall
budget.
Yes,
it
is
so
that's
in
that
36
something.
E
Yes,
it
is
okay,
and
so
here's
dick
first
of
all,
I
want
to
Echo.
One
thing
that
Bruce
said
is:
when
we
worked
on
Wellness
Center
it
was.
There
was
a
lot
of
value
in
you
and
your
group.
It
was
what
enabled
us
to
get
into
our
budget
range
that
we
needed
to.
So
thank
you
for
that.
It
was
good,
but
my
question
I
have
now
is
is
when
is
your
job
done?
I
Probably
a
real
good
question,
because
we,
if
we're
involved
in
the
construction
you
know
like
we're
proposing
on
this
project,
we
can
use
the
past
to
say
that
you
know
we're
involved.
You
know
for
a
while
after
it's
done,
I
mean
at
least
for
the
first
year.
We
try
not
to
have
it
go
on.
You
know
when
you've
got
problems
that
are
five
and
ten
years
from
now,
but
yeah,
definitely
through
that
that
first
year
we
help
you
through
that.
I
F
You
mayor
first
of
all,
just
a
comment
too
on
Echo
what
what
councilman
Bueller
said:
I've
really
enjoyed
working
with
you
going
into
the
project.
I,
never
set
foot
in
an
ice
arena
before
and
you've
guided
us
along
so
well
built
helped
build
a
team
that
we're
working
with,
and
you
know
as
best
you
could
keep
our
costs
in
line.
So
I
really
want
to.
Thank
you,
dick.
F
It's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
you
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you
in
going
down
the
road,
but
I
do
have
one
question
tucked
within
your
Amendment,
explain
a
little
bit
for
the
the
listening
public.
The
what
rscs
is
doing
is
part
of
of
the
the
subcontract
you
got
tucked
into
your
Amendment,
explain
what
they
do
for
us,
what
they
have
done
for
us
already,
just
I'll
open
it
up,
and
you
know
any
comments
you
might
have
about
their
involvement.
Sure.
I
So
this
group
is
is
a
group
of
of
two
guys
that
have
ran
ice
arenas
for
the
last
35
plus
years
and
something
we've
learned
on
these
projects.
Is
we
there's
a
lot
of
lessons
learned
from
people
who
have
done
it
before,
so
these
two
guys
are
the
ones
that
they
they
can
guide
us
through
the
whole
process
in
terms
of
getting
it
all
set
up
from
an
operational
perspective.
I
So
that's
their
expertise.
They've
run
these
facilities
before
and
especially,
we've
got
new
staff
coming
on
for
the
city.
They
are
they'll,
help
train
help
guide,
be
the
sounding
board
for
them
and
I.
Think
if
we
look
back
in
the
last
year
in
terms
of
what
they've
provided
for
in
terms
of
the
perform
operating
costs,
things
like
that
they
know
this,
they
know
it
well,
they're
the
ones
that
called
and
said
you
know
the
Zamboni.
I
You
better
get
going
on
ordering
that
thing,
because
it's
got
a
long
lead
time
on
it
and
that's
you
know,
is
that
part
of
their
contract,
not
really,
but
it's
it's
a
little
bit
like
all
of
our
contracts.
On
these
things.
You
know,
let's
go
back
to
my
parenting
analogy.
You
know
you
do
what
you
need
to
do
whatever
it
is.
You
know,
as
a
parent,
you
know
we
we
what
you
know,
we
provide
shelter
for
our
kids
and
we
feed
them.
I
There
I'd
say
an
invaluable
in
value,
valuable
resource
for
us
as
we
go
forward,
especially
getting
this
thing
operational
and
and
knowing
that
we've
got
that
you've
recently
hired
Dusty,
you
know
I
think
he's
that's
integral
on
this
whole
project
is
having
Dusty
get
fully
up
to
speed,
and
then
you
know-
and
eventually
you
know
the
with
Scott
coming
shortly
after
is
getting
those
guys
so
they're
going
to
get
this
thing
turned
over
to
them.
They
need
to
know
how
to
run
this
thing.
They
need
to
know
how
to
to
operate
it.
I
They
need
to
know
everything
about
this
facility
as
it's
going
up
and
I
think
that's
that
worked
well
with
the
wellness
center
with
a
gentleman
we
had
involved
at
that
time.
So
when
they
get
get
this
they
know
they
know,
they
know
the
building
very
well
before
it
opens.
So
that's
what
the
the
you
know.
The
whole
purpose
of
of
bringing
this
other
team
on.
K
Strasbourg
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea
to
put
75
000
without
having
to
come
back
to
council.
My
question
to
you
would
be
how
many
times
does
this
happen
and
I'm
just
looking
at
the
growth
maximum
price?
Where
do
we
draw
the
line
to
where,
where
you
know,
I
trust
your
intelligence
and
that's
to
tell
us
where
this
is
getting
into
a
problem
to
go
over,
that
gross
maximum
price.
I
I
We
do.
We
are
running
into
long
lead
times
that
are
people
can
tell
us
a
date,
and
you
know
what
that's
nice,
but
you
know
if
it
doesn't
always
happen,
so
I
think
really.
The
exposure
on
it
is
probably
more
in
in
line
with
with
the
timing
But
to
answer
your
question
directly
in
terms
of
what's
over
75
000.,
the
biggest
risk
you've
got
on
on
any
project
is
getting
it
out
of
the
ground
is
always
a
big.
I
That's
there
can
be
big
costs
there
and
we
so
far
we're
doing
well
on
that,
and
then
you
know
getting
through
the
other
things
of
of
building
startup
at
the
other
end
of
it
sometimes
there's
costly
related
to
that,
and
you
know
it's-
these
projects
are
to
use
a
little
bit
crude
analogy.
You
know
sort
of
Death
By
A,
Thousand
Cuts,
it's
not
just
one
big
thing,
so
it's
unlikely
that
there's
a
lot
of
things.
I
That'll
come
back
that
are
over
75
000,
there's
little
things
here
and
there,
and
some
of
these
are
you
know,
like
the
ffne
budget,
it's
2.1
million.
Well,
it's
got
all
you
know,
probably
the
biggest
thing
on
it
is
the
Zamboni,
which
is
a
couple
hundred
and
past
that
it's
just
a
lot
of
small
parts,
a
lot
of
detail,
a
lot
of
things
you
know
pushing
through.
I
K
L
M
You
mayor,
thank
you
dick,
so
yeah.
It
would
be
fair
to
say.
Then
you
mentioned
the
not
only
the
money,
the
you
know
getting
to
the
36
million,
but
the
time
frame,
probably
in
the
times
we
live
in
now
it's
the
Zamboni,
the
roof
system
and
there's
probably
going
to
be
many
other
items
that
are
going
to
come
up
where
we
need
someone.
That's
got
a
pulse
in
that
area.
To
help
keep
the
timing
stay
ahead
of
it.
I
F
Thank
you,
mayor
I,
just
like
a
comment,
so
the
public
doesn't
think
that
we're
you
know
abdicating.
Our
response
was
a
council.
This
isn't
totally
without
present,
if
I'm
not
mistaken.
I'm.
Looking
at
our
Public
Works
director,
we
had
a
similar
Arrangement
on
the
airport
terminal
project.
I,
don't
remember
what
the
threshold
was,
but
not
everything.
Not
every
change
order
came
back
to
us.
We
granted
our
Public
Works
director
the
authority
to
approve
a
change
order,
so
this
is
not
without
president,
so
just
so,
the
public
doesn't
think
that
we're.
You
know.
I
I
You
know
we're
we're
recommending
one
on
this
project,
but
we
oftentimes
see
that
with
a
you
know
where
it's
across
the
city,
where
you
have,
if
you've
got
a
city
manager
that
you
see
it
across,
you
know
across
all
all
times,
you're
spending
money
of
a
certain
dollar
amount
like
75,
000,
50
or
100
or
whatever
it
might
be.
So
we
oftentimes
see
that,
but
being
that,
you
don't
have
that's
why
we're
recommending
it
here.
G
A
B
For
all
the
work
that
you've
put
into
this
I
want
to.
Thank
you
in
particular,
I
think
that
we
often
overlook
this,
but
if
it
wasn't
for
your
foresight
to
order
the
steel,
the
roofing
and
some
of
these
other
things
way
ahead
of
time,
we
would
probably
be
facing
a
pretty
big
delay
right
now,
but
as
it
is
because
you
had
advised
us
to
do
that,
we're
sitting
in
a
position
where
we
can
shell
it
out
and
keep
working
on
it
through
the
winter
and
stay
on
our
hopeful
project
end
date
of
next
fall.
B
H
Thank
you
both
yeah,
so
this
is
what
we
would
call
a
materials
testing
contract
with
American
engineering,
Testing
Incorporated
AET
is
a
company
we've
used
recently
on
some
of
the
soil
correction
work
that
we've
had
to
perform
on
the
site
before
we
were
able
to
install
the
the
footings
these
last
couple
weeks,
and
we
felt
it
was
important
to
continue
the
material
testing
with
the
same
company
that
helped
establish
the
testing
of
the
soil.
Corrections.
That
way,
we
have
a
consistency
and
liability
and
accountability
for
that
type
of
testing.
H
All
the
way
out
through
the
completion
of
the
construction
of
the
project.
So
with
this
contract,
AET
would
be
responsible
for
a
myriad
of
material
testing,
which
would
include
soils
and
concrete
testing.
They
would
observe
the
reinforcing
steel
installations,
the
structural
steel
observations
and
then
also
the
bituminous
Paving
observations
and
testing
for
the
entire
site
of
the
new
Ice
Arena
testing
contract
is
just
shy
of
76
000
at
75,
857
and
I'll
stand
by
for
any
questions.
L
J
Thank
you
mayor,
and
this
probably
goes
for
Public
Works
director
of
Illinois.
We
just
we
paid
the
money.
We
did
the
soils
testing
I
guess
it
might
be
good
to
hear
how
that
all
how
That
Shook
out
I
guess.
That's
not
probably
the
right
way
to
say
it,
but
you
know
it'd
be
nice
to
know
where
we're
at
with
all
that
and
I
know
dick.
H
Yeah,
no
absolutely
we've
been
staff
have
been
working
closely
with
jnj
land
sales,
otherwise
operating
as
J
J
Earthworks
they're.
The
landowners
of
the
lot
that
we've
purchased
to
build
the
ice
arena
on
part
of
the
agreement
in
that
land
transaction
was
that
the
soil
Corrections
would
be
performed
to
the
satisfaction
of
a
third-party
geotechnical
engineer.
H
That
is
where
AET
was
brought
on
board
and
they
did
soil
borings
out
on
that
site.
Before
any
soil
Corrections
were
made,
they
were
able
to
identify
some
of
the
needed
soil,
Corrections,
The
Depths
that
needed
to
be
corrected
to
and
by
soil
Corrections.
What
we
mean
is
that
they
more
or
less
dug
out
undesirable
material
and
put
in
good
material
to
build
our
building
on,
and
so
there
were
random
spots
and
some
consistent
spots
throughout
the
site.
H
It's
a
large
area
that
they
had
to
correct
some
of
the
depths
that
they
went
to
to
get
down
to
undisturbed.
Soil,
probably
varied
for
anywhere
from
shallower
depths
of
maybe
seven
feet
to
as
deep
as
nearly
20
feet,
16
to
20
feet.
So
there
were
some
pretty
deep
excavations
that
occurred
and
they
brought
in
good
engineered
fill
to
backfill
those
areas,
and
that
is
really
all
the
preliminary
work.
B
Hearing
none
the
motion
is
to
approve
the
agreement.
All
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
saying,
hey
motion,
carries
item.
D
is
an
approval
of
the
of
the
borrowers
resolution
for
the
water
treatment
plant
equipment.
Upgrades
I
am
just
going
to
say
to
the
council
that
items
D
and
E
are
very
similar,
so
we
will
be
talking
to
both
of
these
items
over
the
conversation
of
just
tackling
d.
As
far
as
like
an
official
item
for
the
agenda,
but
first
we
will
go
to
our
city
manager,
Amanda
Mack,.
G
Thank
you
mayor.
Our
friends
at
Watertown,
Municipal
Utilities
are
planning
some
upgrades
to
the
water
treatment
plant,
as
well
as
a
water
main
replacement
on
Third
Avenue
Northwest.
This
is
coming
to
you
all,
because
they're
issuing
debt
and
because
they
are
they're
part
of
the
city
in
that.
In
that
way,
you
need
to
approve
the
issuance
of
that
debt
and
with
that
I
would
turn
it
over
to
Adam
karst
with
WMU.
B
N
Right,
thank
you.
City
council
appreciate
it
and
thank
you
Amanda.
As
she
had
stated,
we
are
in
the
process
of.
If
you
remember,
we
came
back
to
the
city
council,
this
spring
I
believe
and
we
went
for
four
projects
and
we
were
awarded
those
this
summer
and
it's
about
a
16
million
dollars
for
those
total
projects.
That's
the
total
projects
about
five
of
that
is
Grants.
Five
million
is
Grants
and
about
11
million
is
loans.
But
what
we're
asking
for
today
is
your
approval
for
the
two
projects
that
we're
bringing
forward.
N
One
is
the
water
plan
upgrades,
which
is
a
million
dollar
project,
we're
going
to
get
a
700
000
loan
and
we're
going
to
get
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
Grant
approximately.
So
the
700
000
loan
is
what
we're
asking
for
in
item
item
d
and
what
that's
going
to
go
for
is
going
to
go
for
a
lime
slaker,
it's
going
to
go
for
a
chlorine
injection
system
as
well
as
a
scada
system
upgrade.
So
that's
the
million
dollar
project
srf
approved.
N
We
our
board,
went
and
adopt
adopted
a
surcharge
to
pay
for
that,
so
that
debt
is
not,
it
doesn't
go
against
the
city's
obligation
debt.
It's
pledged
by
our
water
revenues,
so
we've
adopted
a
surcharge
to
collect
enough
to
pay
for
that
loan.
The
first
million
dollar
project
is
a
20-year
loan
at
1.875
percent,
so
we
think
we
have
a
very
attractive
rate
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions
about
that
project.
Or
do
you
want
me
to
cover
the
other
project
as
well?
There.
B
N
N
3.3
million
dollar
project-
2.3
million,
is
alone
and
1
million
as
a
grant.
So
that
is
the
water
main
replacement
project
that
we
call
Millet
and
Third
Avenue,
so
that
used
to
be
a
12
inch.
Water
main
that
goes
along
Third
Avenue,
all
the
way
up
to
the
Millet
Tower,
that's
going
to
be
replaced
with
a
20
inch
water
main.
So
that's
the
project
that
we're
working
on
for
that
aspect,
so
that
rate
as
well
has
been
adopted
in
a
surcharge.
That's
a
30-year
loan
at
the
same
interest
rate
of
1.875
percent.
N
What
we're
seeing
is
a
eight
Cent
per
unit
increase
in
our
rates
for
the
surcharge,
as
well
as
the
other
project
is
a
3.3
cents.
So
what
that
means
for
a
typical
residential
user
and
typical
residential
user
I'm,
saying
you're
using
about
six
thousand
gallons
a
month
that
equates
to
about
90
cents
a
month
increased
your
water
rates.
B
Chair
will
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
the
resolution
motion
made
by
councilman
Tupper
Ed
by
councilman
Danforth.
We
will
I
can
allow
some
leniency
to
the
council
to
ask
questions
or
comments
on
both
d
and
e,
but
the
only
motion
actually
being
entertained.
Right
now
is
item
D.
So
any
questions
or
comments,
counsel,
bye,
councilman,
Bueller,
councilman,
Danforth.
E
J
N
So
things
are
sure.
Thank
you,
srf
is
the
drinking
water
State
revolving
Loan
Fund,
and
the
scada
system
is
a
supervisory
control.
What
a
scada
system
is
is
looking
at
the
operations
of
the
water
treatment
facilities
and
making
sure
that
the
Opera
it's
operating
and
functioning
properly
and
it
can
give
the
the
treatment,
operators,
warnings
and
things
like
that.
If
there's
something
going
wrong
so
but
I
think
that's
the
definition
of
a
scada
system,
a
supervisory
control,
something
something
data
acquisition.
Thank
you.
B
A
B
N
N
N
K
N
K
J
N
N
J
N
J
O
N
For
one,
it's
it's
a
needed
project
and
I
think
this
is
very
cost
effective
I
mean
when
you
can
get
money
for
1.875
percent.
It's
very
cost
effective,
especially
when
we're
in
the
bank
or
we're
receiving
I
think
3.2
percent.
So
as
for
a
cost
basis,
it's
it's
very
advantageous
for
us
to
take
it
through
through
a
project
through
a
loan
plus
we're
going
to
get
30
percent
of
it
paid
for
with
the
grant.
N
D
You
I
will
add
just
one
thing
too,
with
the
current
requirement.
Anytime,
we
enter
into
an
srf
loan.
We
do
have
to
put
a
certain
surcharge
on
that
to
cover
the
debt,
then
what
can
happen
as
a
progress?
The
project
gets
done
and
the
amortization
on
the
grants
all
the
funding
comes
into
play.
We
can
then
reassess
those
surcharges
that
are
required.
So
in
the
past
we
had
one
of
our
srf
loans
with
the
city
that
had
a
principal
forgiveness.
D
B
B
Counsel
hearing
none
the
motion
is
to
approve
the
resolution.
All
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
post
saying
a
motion
carries
item
f
is
the
2023
budget
appropriation
and
we
have
two
subheadings
under
there
ordinance
number
22-24
for
the
2023
City
budget
appropriation.
First
reading
and
approval
of
2023
Enterprise
funds,
budget
appropriation,
we'll
go
to
our
finance
officer,
Kristen
bobzin,
to
tell
us
more.
D
Thank
you
mayor.
We
did
come
out
of
budget
hearings
it's
over
and
now
it
is
time
to
approve
2023
so
before
the
council.
Right
now
is
the
first
reading
of
what
we
consider
kind
of
the
governmental
side
of
our
budgets,
which
has
a
little
bit
different
requirement
than
the
Enterprise
funds.
There
were
a
couple
changes.
We
had
a
sixteen
thousand
dollar
increase
in
the
engineering.
There
was
some
wage
adjustments
that
were
necessary
and
then
under
the
fund
212
we
also
did
an
increase
of
50
000.
D
There
was
a
little
bit
of
a
communication
with
the
miscellaneous
concrete
projects
so
from
the
budget
hearing
to
the
first
reading.
Those
are
the
only
two
changes
and
everything
is
still
within
budget
as
far
as
how
I
feel
with
the
balance.
So
that
was
the
changes
between
the
budget
hearing
and
first
reading
and
then
on
the
Enterprise
funds
in
the
airport.
There
was
a
need
for
some
signage
on
Highway
20
that
wasn't
placed
in
the
budget.
D
So
that's
now
in
there
and
then
35
000
for
paint
there's
quite
a
bit
of
expense
when
it
comes
to
painting
The
Runway.
So
those
two
are
the
changes
that
the
Council
needs
to
be
aware
of
that
are
different
from
the
budget
hearing.
So
if
there's
any
specific
questions,
this
will
come
back
to
the
council,
then
for
the
second
reading.
So.
B
B
F
B
G
G
I'll
hearing
we
had
a
final
slide
that
there
were
a
few
items
that
had
either
come
in
late
or
we
were
making
some
last
minute.
Decisions
on
one
of
them
was
the
engineering
Tech
position
specifically
to
assist
with
lake
lake
coordination
efforts
with
the
Like
peska
Water
Project
District
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
that
right.
G
Some
additional
changes
after
the
budget
hearing,
we
needed
some
flexibility
within
the
wage
ranges
within
engineering
to
fill
those
positions
we've
had
we
have
one
position
that
is
open,
that
we've
had
no
applicants
for
we'll
have
this
new
engineering
Tech
position
and
just
generally
within
Public
Works
in
Community
Development.
We
also
have
a
position
that
has
been
open
for
quite
some
time
with
no
applicants.
So
we
wanted
to
have
some
flexibility
in
that
wage
range
to
help
entice
someone
within
the
fund
212,
we
did
add
an
additional
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
concrete
improvements.
G
That
was
just
an
error
on
our
part.
We
got
our
wires
crossed
a
little
bit
and
then
within
the
Airport
Enterprise
fund
we
did
add
35
000
for
paint.
Evidently,
in
the
past,
that
dollar
amount
had
somehow
been
included
into
the
CIP,
which
is
really
appropriate.
It
should
be
in
operations
and
then
the
highway
20
signage
so
to
update
the
entryway
signage
into
into
the
into
the
new
terminal
that
had
originally
been
part
of
the
terminal
project
and
just
due
to
cost
it
was
cut
right
away.
E
In
the
case,
though-
and
you
just
mentioned
when
we
have
to
maybe
change
that
in
order
to
get
somebody
there
are
we
still
working
within
the
the
dollars
within
that
range,
or
does
that
adversely
affect
us?
If
we,
if
we
were
to
hire
somebody
at
a
higher
rate,
does
that
then
kind
of
got
into
and
affect
the
others
that,
because
we've
raised
that
rate
yeah,
that.
G
What
we're
finding,
especially
with
some
of
these
more
technical
positions,
is
that
we
can't
hire
people
at
step,
six,
seven
or
even
eight,
and
they
need
to
be
brought
in
at
a
higher
wage
to
complement
what
their
experience
and
education
level
is.
It's
proving
to
be
a
challenge
across
all
the
grades.
Truthfully.
We
have
lower
lower
grades
that
are
off
the
mark
as
well.
I
think
that
a
a
more
appropriate
long-term
discussion
is
I
hate
to
say
these
words
out
loud,
because
I
don't
want.
A
G
G
Yeah,
so
you
could
potentially
move
someone,
you
could
give
them
more
steps
based
on
years
of
experience.
You
could
also
move
them
to
a
different
grade.
So
within
engineering,
for
example.
We
have
an
engineer
one,
an
engineer,
two,
an
engineer:
three.
We
have
an
engineer
Tech.
We
have
an
assistant
city
engineer,
so
you
could
move
someone
within
any
of
those
even.
G
O
B
Thank
you
any
further
comments.
Council
all
right,
we'll
wait
to
hear
back
more
on
this
at
the
next
meeting.
I.
Take
it
em
G
is
an
authorization
for
the
police
department
to
have
active
heating,
Incorporated
repair,
various
HVAC
components
within
the
police
department
for
approximately
sixteen
thousand
and
a
half
dollars,
or
sixteen
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
roughly
we'll
go
to.
Excuse
me,
our
chief
of
police,
Tim
Toomey,
to
tell
us
more
thank.
Q
You
mayor,
thank
you
Council
and
manager
Mack.
We
have
had
active
heating
go
through
our
system
recently
after
a
couple
years
of
Patchwork
on
our
heating
system,
especially
we've
been
kind
of
piecing
together.
As
you
know,
our
building
is
beautiful,
but
it's
it's
10
years
old,
so
there
was
some
minor
maintenance
things
that
have
been
postponed
and
put
off
and
we
had
one
specific
problem
that
was
causing
us
a
lot
of
headaches
trying
to
get
to
work
right.
Q
So
we
had
active,
come
in
and
do
an
assessment
of
the
whole
system
and
ask
them
what
it
would
take
to
to
get
this
good
for
the
near
future
and
Beyond,
and
they
gave
us
this
estimate.
We
did
walk
around
the
building.
They
did
an
excellent
job
explaining
why
these
things
needed
to
be
replaced
and
the
importance
of
it.
It's
a
it's
a
matter
of
either
write
a
small
check
now
or
a
big
check
later.
So
that's
why
we
coming
before
you
for
ask
for
a
supplement
or
contingency
in
our
budget.
E
E
M
Thank
you
mayor.
This
question
is
more
not
specifically
for
this
project,
but
in
a
generality,
how
do
we
come
up?
Go
about
picking
a
contract,
a
local
contractor
for
for
maintenance?
Do
we
go
with
the
same
one
that
was
part
of
the
construction
process,
just
wondering
how
we
go
about
working
through
that.
Q
Yeah,
it's
especially
our
system
is
a
very
complicated
system,
so
active
heating
has
proven
themselves
to
be
an
excellent
company
and
somebody
that
we
can
depend
on
and
they're
fairly
priced.
So
we
just
trust
the
work
that
they
do
their
our
neighbor
across
the
street.
So
we
know
where
they
live
and
work
so
I'm
sure
they'll
do
a
good
job.
D
The
only
thing
I
wanted
to
touch
on
with
the
budget,
so
essentially
what
we've
kind
of
done
is
gotten
council's
pre-approval.
When
something
isn't
in
the
budget,
you,
the
council,
will
see
it
again
at
the
budget
supplement
time,
but
anything
that's
big
and-
and
we
don't
have
the
budget
for
it's
kind
of
to
give.
The
council
like
the
heads
up,
is
everybody
on
the
same
page.
So
when
you
see
it
at
the
end
of
the
year,
the
Departments
aren't
then
having
to
answer
why
they
went
over
budget.
P
L
B
Q
B
R
Are
we
good
we're
on
okay?
This
is
a
very
exciting
item,
it's
time
to
go
to
open
enrollment
for
2023,
so
we
would
like
your
permission,
to
move
forward
with
our
Wellmark
as
our
health
insurance
provider
for
2023
with
two
plans.
Our
same
two
plans,
the
fifteen
hundred
dollar
deductible
and
the
three
thousand
dollar
deductible
with
Delta
Dental.
Again
as
our
dental
provider
and
VSP,
is
our
vision
provider.
So
I'll
entertain
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
F
R
Basically,
the
economy
I
mean
we
have
a
really
good
claims
record
and
loss
ratio
with
them,
and
you
know
Wellmark
gives
our
employees
flexibility
to
go.
You
know
to
any
provider,
so
they
can
go
Samford,
they
can
go
Avera.
You
can,
even
you
know,
go
to
Mayo
if
you
want
with
Wellmark.
So
many
companies
took
increases
at
over
20
28
30
with
Walmart.
So
because
we
have
such
a
good
record,
we
feel
very
fortunate
to
be
at
11.15.
R
Looking
for
the
other
people,
we
did
not
look
at
any
other
companies
besides
Wellmark
this
year.
We
certainly
can
go
out
next
year
and
quote
some
other
companies.
If
that
is
the
will
of
the
council,
we're
we're
happy
to
do
that,
but
we
stayed
with
Wellmark
just
because
of
the
flexibility
it
gives
our
employees.
J
G
I'd
just
like
to
comment
that
that
we
certainly
can
explore
other
other
companies.
Any
significant
changes
that
we
make
to
health
insurance,
including
the
carrier,
does
have
to
be
approved
by
our
unions
yeah,
and
so
it's
not
just
as
simple
as
we're
going
to
move
to
someone
else
and
based
on
contract
language.
You
know
those
those
three
Unions
would
have
to
be
involved
in
those
discussions
as
they
should
be,
which
which
is
fine.
D
Have
Marsh
go
out
and
look?
They
looked
at
doing
a
Sanford
plan
and
Avera
plan
and
then
there
was
I
think
it's
United
Health
Partners
out
of
Minnesota
and
then
Wellmark
and
at
the
time
we
thought
Wellmark
was
the
best
fit
because
it
gives
our
employees
the
opportunity
to
go
to
wherever
they
want
versus
just
the
Sanford.
And
then
at
that
time,
United
Healthcare
I,
don't
know.
United.
D
Just
wasn't
large
enough
here
in
South
Dakota,
so
they
weren't
able
to
compete
with
Wellmark.
Now
that
could
change,
but
it's
probably
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
for
them
to
get
established
in
South,
Dakota
they're
pretty
big
in
Minnesota,
but
they
don't
have
a
lot
yet
in
South,
Dakota.
So
I
think
we
will
always
keep
looking
and
then
always
keep
that
as
an
option.
R
P
G
Employee
union
offered
something
that
was
quite
beneficial
for
them
and
that
left
their
management
team.
So
they
approached
us
about
joining
and
they
decided
that
that
wasn't
wasn't
the
route
they
wanted
to
go.
So
we
would
have
been
looking
at
11.7
percent
I
believe
right
if
we
had
added
them,
but
a
total
of
how
many
employees
would
have
come
over
12
12
employees,
so
it
wouldn't
have.
It
wouldn't
be
the
large
group
that,
if
all
of
their
employees
were
joining
us.
F
F
B
C
B
Thank
you
item.
I
is
an
approval
of
a
Professional
Services
agreement
for
plans
examiner
and
building
code
Consulting
Services
associated
with
the
city's
building
permit
application
processing
with
Lookout
plan
and
code
Consulting
in
the
amount
of
20
of
our
building
permit
fee,
we'll
go
to
our
Public
Works
director
Heath
Von
I.
To
tell
us
more.
H
So
we've
since
moved
on
and
trying
to
fill
his
role
since
Jason
left
us
and
have
not
had
any
luck
with
that
to
date.
As
we
talked
earlier,
some
of
these
technical
positions
are
getting
more
and
more
difficult
to
find
and
to
fill
with
good
quality
experienced
candidates.
Building
official
is
no
exception
to
that.
So,
with
the
recent
South
Dakota
Municipal
League
conference
Brandi
was
able
to
connect
with
the
building
officials
Association
at
that
conference
and
it's
very
valuable
conversation.
H
H
Consulting
he's
a
certified
plans
examiner
and
a
certified
building
inspector
through
the
ICC,
the
International
Code
Council
that
we
adopt
their
building
codes
through,
and
what
this
would
be
is
a
remotes
review
and
approval
on
a
code
level
of
some
of
our
more
major
building,
permit
reviews
that
we
perform
for
the
city
so
a
lot
of
the
larger
commercial
Plan
reviews,
and
maybe
some
of
the
more
any
of
the
more
complex
structural
reviews
that
we
would
need
assistance
with.
With
that
depth
of
code
knowledge,
it
would
be
the
intent
of
this
contract.
H
As
far
as
the
fee
is
concerned,
I'll
walk
through
that
here
with
it
with
you.
If
I
could,
the
rate
is
20
of
the
building
permit
fee?
Now
what
that
means
is
the
way
our
building
permit
fees
are
set
up.
Is
we
have
a
base
building
permit
fee,
that's
based
on
the
valuation
of
the
project,
so
if
somebody's
building
a
million
dollar
project,
we
take
that
valuation
into
our
building
permit
chart
and
we
come
up
with
a
fee
out
of
that
table.
H
H
So
what
we
did
is
we
took
that
Base
building
permit
fee
and
we're
now
added
on
a
surcharge
of
50
of
that
fee
to
cover
our
Administration
duties
and
processing
of
all
the
permit
reviews
well
of
that
50
percent.
This
contract
would
give
this
gentleman
this
company
20
of
that
50.,
so
he's
he's
taking
20
percent
out
50
that
we
recently
implemented.
H
H
Excellent
amount
of
experience
that
this
particular
gentleman
has
I
think
it's
roughly
25
years
as
a
building
inspector
building
official
plans
examiner
and
comes
with
some
high
level
of
credentials
through
the
ICC.
With
that
I
guess.
The
goal
here
too,
would
be
to
use
this
as
a
stop
get
measure
for
the
meantime
and
utilize
these
services
for
a
few
months.
We
would
still
continue
to
keep
the
building
official
job
posted
in
the
hopes
to
fill
that-
and
you
know,
there's
room
for
discussion
here
whether
this
continues
in
a
favorable
manner.
H
It
could
even
transition
into
a
more
permanent
type
of
scenario
if,
if,
through
discussions
with
a
city
manager,
she
was
in
agreement
with
that
and
through
formal
approval
with
the
council
as
necessary.
If
we
were
to
go
that
route,
but
the
initial
goal
right
now
would
be
to
continue
to
advertise
the
building
official
and
try
to
get
that
filled.
L
L
P
J
H
S
P
S
S
All
by
himself
yep
just
himself,
we
send
him
any
Plan
reviews
that
we
want
and
like
Heath
described,
for
new
commercial
projects
or
additions,
anything
that
has
a
little
more
complexity
to
it
for
code
review.
We
would
send
to
him
and
set
up
a
bluebeam
account,
and
then
he
would
do
his
plan
markups.
He
would
send
us
a
cover
sheet
of
his
code
review,
just
explaining
everything
that
that
was
looked
at
and
a
lot
of
times.
M
Thank
you
mayor.
This
may
be
a
difficult
one
to
answer,
but
I
do
see
it
as
a
value
that
we
we
need
just
based
off
the
turnover
we
had
and
just
be
a
benefit
for
the
city.
However
I'm
just
curious
on
is
there:
is
there
anything
discussed
as
far
as
timelines,
or
is
there
anything
in
the
contract
how
long
it
would
take
to
upon
receiving
information
responding
to
us
just
because
that
might
be
difficult
to
answer
on
their
end?
Even
but
is
there
any
standard
to
kind
of
go
by
this?
H
Yeah
Council
will
show
you
that's
a
great
question.
I
was
just
scanning
the
contract
here
quickly.
I,
don't
recall
as
though
there
was
a
turnaround
time
stipulated
in
the
contract.
We
could
certainly
incorporate
something
in
there.
Our
current
ordinances
allow
up
to
Brandy
putting
on
the
spot.
We
have
some
outlined
for
60
days,
yeah,
it's
pretty
extensive.
We
never
take
that
long,
but
we
can
incorporate
something
reasonable
in
here.
H
I'm
thinking,
maybe
a
30-day
Max
window.
If
you
know
something
along
those
lines
of
Tom
were
amicable
to
that.
But
you
know
again,
the
complexity
of
the
project
is
really
what
drives
that
and,
of
course,
the
workload
as
well.
So
we
would
adhere,
add
a
bare
minimum
to
our
ordinances
and
our
standards
that
require
a
60-day
turnaround.
Again.
We
never
take
that
long,
but.
O
Thank
you,
mayor,
bring
your
Heath
so
just
to
make
sure
this
is
straight
in
my
head,
so
he
would
just
do
the
plan
review
and
then
our
current
building
inspector
will
do
the
on-site
inspections
correct.
Would
he
have
any
access
to
him
I
mean?
Is
he
going
to
be
able
to
call
him
if
he
has
questions
and.
H
Yeah
absolutely
there's
actually
a
ancillary
service
provided
in
this
contract
for
additional
code
consulting
or
things
that
aren't
specific
to
a
plan
review
that
would
come
at
the
cost
of
75
per
hour
minimum.
So
we'd,
of
course,
want
to
be
selective
on
how
we
utilize
that,
but
definitely
there's
a
resource
for
us
as
well.
H
We've
also
again,
through
Brandy's
contacts
she's
recently
made
we've
also
leveraged
those
resources.
Other
communities
with
building
officials
are
glad
to
help
us
out.
In
a
pinch,
any
kind
of
questions
she's
had
we're
to
find
something
in
the
code
books,
for
example,
they've
been
a
great
resource,
so
we're
always
able
to
leverage
them
as
well
on
a
continual
basis,
too.
H
We're
great
no,
he
he
does
Brandi
did
confirm
this.
Today,
too,
he
is
going
to
carry.
His
company
carries
a
liability
insurance
for
the
performance
of
their
duties,
and
so
it
I
don't
believe.
We've
gotten
the
details
of
that,
but
we
can
get
those
details
and
have
our
City
attorney
review
those
to
her
level
of
comfort
but
I
believe
that
would
cover
and
address
the
exact
concern
that
you're
expressing
there
that
their
own
liability
insurance
will
cover
those
instances.
F
I
assume
one
of
the
benefits
or
goals
here
is
to
expedite
the
process,
for
you
know,
developers
out
there
because
I
think
we
all
hear
the
comments.
We've
heard
them
for
years
and
we
still
continue
to
hear
them.
I'm
not.
You
know
pointing
fingers
anybody,
but
it's
just
the
reality
of
the
situation
that
we
know
that
there's
still
delays
in
getting
things
done,
I'm
I'm,
assuming
this
would
would
be.
You
know,
a
partial
solution
or
help
in
that
in
that
situation.
In
that
concern.
S
If
I
just
didn't
I
guess
a
little
bit
of
Defense
of
Community
Development
A
lot
of
the
times
when
we're
hearing
those
those
things
from
developers
or
applicants,
they
we
are
not
receiving
complete
information
and
have
relayed
that
information.
Now
with
the
open
gov
software
has
made
it
much
more
efficient
on
our
end,
so
we're
able
to
see
where
different
applications
are
and
that
we
are
giving
them
prompt
reviews
and
feedback.
Okay,.
F
No
I
appreciate
that
I
know,
there's
two
sides
to
every
story
and,
and
unfortunately,
we're
always
hearing
the
negative
side
of
it,
and
so
I
appreciate
hearing
that.
Just
a
can
you
get
do
we
have
any
kind
of
ballpark
estimate
as
far
I'm,
let's
say
in
a
typical
year
what
this
20
percent
would
would
generate
for
someone.
S
So
and
like
he
described
so
this
year
now
with
implementing
that
50
plan
review
fee
increase,
then
we
obviously
were
covering
it
and
then,
if
we
were
looking
at
what
2021,
what
we
received
in
like
commercial
building
permits,
that
was
around
70
in
the
fees
that
was
around
78
000..
So
we
are
actually
still.
S
Let
me
get
that
number
here,
so,
even
if
in
2022
with
the
building
permit
fees
with
that
50
increase
and
if
we
were
paying.
If,
if
we
had
Tom
reviewing
all
of
those
permits
which
was
24,
then
that
would
be
we
would
still
be
forty,
eight
thousand
and
some
ahead
of
last
year.
What
we
collected
for
fees,
okay,.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Any
further
questions
or
comments,
Council
hearing
none.
The
motion
is
to
approve
the
agreement.
All
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
Indiana
motion
carries
I'm,
going
to
use
my
discretion
and
I'm
going
to
flip
the
last
two
items
to
unless
there's
an
objection
from
the
council.
I
would
like
to
take
up
item
C
for
the
consent
agenda
right
now
to
get
that
out
of
the
way
and
item
C.
So
there's
no
objection
from
the
console.
Okay
item.
H
So
it's
on
the
northwest
end
of
town
I.
Don't
have
a
really
good
vicinity
map
here,
so
I
apologize,
but
we
briefly
spoke
about
this
previously
in
some
Council
update
information
on
the
availability
of
a
portion
of
land
that
the
dot
procured
some
years
back.
This
section
of
land
was
part
of
what
was,
at
the
time
a
North
bypass,
a
northern
bypass
route
for
the
city
that
would
utilize
the
existing
Northern
Watertown
exit
off
I-29
and
then
proceed
to
the
West
I
think
that's
28th
Avenue!
H
If
I
remember
right,
26th
Avenue
that
runs
East
and
West
up
there.
That
would
become
the
northern
bypass
route.
At
some
point,
the
dot
was
working
with
the
city
on
establishing
that
North
bypass
route
and
the
brakes
kind
of
got
pumped
on
it
at
some
point
or
another,
a
decade
or
so
ago,
I'm
not
sure
how
long
ago
it's
been,
but
with
that
the
state
had
already
procured
some
of
the
land.
H
They
are
now
kind
of
cleaning
house
and
getting
rid
of
some
of
these
Parcels
of
land
that
they
don't
want
or
feel
that
they
need.
They
made
this
available
to
us
as
a
first
right
of
refusal,
so
to
speak,
not
formally,
but
that's
more
or
less
what
it
was
and
they
asked
if
we
had
interest
in
that
they
can
sell
it
directly
to
us
because
we're
another
public
agency.
So
we
reviewed
that
information
and
we
thought
yes
from
a
staff
standpoint.
This
made
sense
to
procure
this
land
from
the
state
their.
H
It
might
cost
us
three
times
that
two
years
from
now
we
don't
know
so
we
think
it's
a
wise
choice
and
the
money
for
this
purchase
would
come
out
of
the
land
restricted
fund
that
the
finance
office
holds
each
year
for
instances
just
like
this.
So
it's
it's
funded
through
that
account
without
any
issue,
without
rambling
on
about
the
northern
bypass
Loop.
Any
further
I'll
just
stand
by
for
any
questions
here.
B
E
E
We
did
not
take
that
and
acquire
that
from
the
city
standpoint.
So
I
really
got
a
question.
What
good
one
little
acre
does
for
us
when
we
gave
up
a
whole
stretch
along
whatever
road,
that
is,
that
Gravel
Road
up
there
I
know
it's
only
ten
thousand
nine
hundred
bucks,
but
it's
ten
thousand
nine
hundred
bucks
when
we
don't
have
and
gave
up
didn't
see
the
value
couldn't
justify
that
whole
other
stretch
of
land,
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
on
this.
H
Certainly,
all
good
points
to
consider
councilman
Danforth
I'm,
the
arcgis
map
is
always
slow
to
open
here,
because
it's
running
on
Wi-Fi,
so
kind
of
using
dial
up
when
I'm
trying
to
open
this
map.
So
the
I
will
share
my
screen
to
display
the
map
that
we
do
have
and
I
know
it
doesn't
full
of
show
the
full
extents
of
how
you
get
here,
but
I'll
try
to
talk
through
it.
H
So
on
teams,
you'll
notice,
26th,
Avenue,
dead
ends
up
here.
This
is
up
on
the
northwest
corner
of
the
River
Ridge
Subdivision,
so
the
Lutheran
Church
is
off
here
to
your
Southeast,
where
River
Ridge,
Subdivision
is
and
they're
building
houses
up
here.
This
area
right
here
is
actually
new,
dedicated
Park
land
for
that
subdivision
that
we
recently
finally
got
dedicated
for
the
River
Ridge
subdivision
and
26th
Avenue
running
East
and
West.
H
I-29,
so
we're
at
the
far
west
end
of
that
stretch
where
it
dead
ends
on
the
top
of
the
hill
there
and
if
you
keep
going
west,
you'd
fall
down
into
the
river
bottom
area,
but
this
is
the
one
acre
parcel
I'm,
not
familiar
with
the
parcels
that
we've
let
go
in
the
past
and
I
I
wasn't
part
of
those
discussions,
but
just
sitting
in
my
capacity
now
today
as
a
city
engineer
and
the
Public
Works
director.
That's
why
I
brought
forward
the
recommendation.
H
I
did
just
knowing
that
this
Northern
bypass
will
at
some
point
be
critical
for
the
city.
Is
this
acre
going
to
make
or
break
that
bypasser
out?
No,
but
is
it
going
to
cost
us
more
to
obtain
later
on?
Yes,
that's
highly
likely.
If,
if
we
were
to
proceed
that
way,
the
reason
that
North
bypass
in
my
mind,
is
so
critical,
because
everything's
building
up
226
like
it
is
that
development
east
of
here
is
also
going
to
continue
to
fill
in
and
all
that
traffic
from
all
those
residences.
H
E
E
The
land's
already
been
given
up
majority
of
the
land
that
was
acquired
I
just
think
it's
I
think
it's
a
waste
of
our
dollars
to
be
honest
with
you
to
acquire
that
without
having
really
any
assurances
that
that's
ever
going
to
happen
or
if
it
does
happen.
If
this
is
what
it's
going
to
be
required,
just
my
two
cents.
F
Thank
you,
mayor,
I,
I.
Remember
because
I
was
on
the
council
at
that
time
when
we
had
the
conversation
and
let
the
land
go
that
Mike's
referring
to.
But
my
question
is:
I
mean
you're
referencing
the
north
bypass,
but
isn't
this
part
small
parcel,
be
it
small
still
critical
it?
Isn't
it
critical
for
all
the
development
that's
going
on
up
there?
Now
that
was
not
going
on
up
there.
You
know
we
had
the
conversation
before
I
mean.
Isn't
this
critical
for
other
uses
aside
from
potentially
a
bypass
up
there
I
mean
are?
H
Yeah
councilman
Dan
councilman
vilhauer
the
because
it's
immediately
adjacent
to
that
newly
dedicated
Parkland.
That's
that's
one
of
the
points
of
logic
we
were
applying
here.
It
wouldn't
be
a
island
floating
out
there
of
city
land,
but
it's
going
to
be
immediately
adjacent
to
so.
For
that
reason,
yeah
I
mean
there's
a
multitude
of
things
that
that
could
come
to
light
here.
Is
it?
Is
it
necessary
for
that
Parkland
to
be
successful?
Probably
not,
but
it
is
immediately
adjacent
to
it.
So
that
does
help
in
the
discussion.
J
Heath,
if
we
don't
purchase
this,
what
what
issues
are
we
going
to
have
moving
forward
if
we
do
have
a
bypass
and
I
know,
I
brought
up
the
history
last
time,
I
want
to
beat
the
dead
horse,
but
you
know
the
plan
a
big
reason
for
that
too.
Another
reason
for
having
that
bypass
back
in
that
at
that
time
was
to
move
trucks
through
what
we
didn't.
So
we
wouldn't
have
the
congestion
on
212
to
move
trucks
down
to
20.
coming
off
the
interstate.
H
I
think
that
really
just
boils
down
to
paying
more
for
it
later,
I
mean
if
that
Bypass
or
when
that
bypass
comes
to
fruition
as
a
need
for
the
community.
I
mean
there's,
there's
the
processes
and
procedures.
We
go
through
to
procure
those
rights
of
way,
just
like
we've
done
here
a
decade
or
so
ago,
and
we
would
just
simply
follow
that
same
process
and
if,
if
this
portion
of
land
becomes
part
of
that,
it's
just
gonna,
we'll
just
likely
pay
more
for
it
later.
But
again
it
is
only
an
acre.
H
O
You
mayor
I,
guess
I
I
have
a
hard
time
envisioning
how
that
road
would
go
there
with
that
being
at
that
angle
and
then
to
the
east
being
Parkland.
Now,
if
we
wanted
to
use
Parkland
of
any
sort,
it
would
have
to
go
to
a
public
boat
to
relinquish
that
if,
if
I'm,
correct,
I
think
that's
correct
anyway,
so
I
guess
I'm
just
having
a
hard
time
envisioning
without
a
plan
in
front
of
me
on
how
that
would
go
through
there.
H
Yeah
I
believe
the
intent
was
that
the
it
started
to
curve
to
the
Southwest
here
and
would
cut
through
portion
of
that
Parkland
like
you've
indicated
and
yes,
I,
believe
you're
right
in
order
to
utilize
that
Park
land
that
that
becomes
an
exercise
in
itself.
In
order
to
do
that,
but
so
where
that
final
alignment
would
fall,
that's
anybody's
best
guess
today,
I
would
just
go
back
and
emphasize
that
26
is
that
connector
with
an
existing
interchange
at
I-29
and
that's
something
communities.
H
Fight
for
is
getting
those
interchanges
and
access
to
the
interstate.
We've
got
one.
There
that's
way
underutilized,
and
so
this
North
bypass
route,
I
Feel
Again.
Is
this
going
to
gravitate
to
26
because
that
existing
interchange
and
not
having
to
jog
a
mile
or
two
north
or
south
from
there?
It's
a
straight
shot
over
to
that
existing
interchange.
H
H
That
is
under
the
Township's
ownership
and
maintenance,
their
jurisdiction,
I,
don't
believe
any
portion
of
26
has
been
annexed.
Yet
I'm.
Looking
over
to
Brandy
our
community
development
manager
on
the
north
side
of
river
is
none
of
26
has
been
annexed
yet
so
that's
all
in
the
township.
Yet
at
this
point
so.
M
Thank
you
mayor.
So
if
you
get
your
crystal
ball
out
and
look
this
project
go,
let's
just
say:
five-year
councilman
Paulson
was
saying
that
what
it
may
have
to
go
to
a
public
Vote
or
something
if
there
was
a
a
park
land
right
there
correct.
So,
let's
just
say
down
the
road.
There
is
some
scenarios
that
where
that
project
starts
to
be
thought
about
bypass
and
North
bypass,
but
then
now
there's
the
Park
Lane
there.
M
H
J
J
J
And
if
that
being
said,
the
one
of
the
questions
I'd
I'd
have
is:
would
it
require
public
vote
by
Statute
if
the
dot
has
that
project
and
and
I'm
going
to
tail
this
up
to
one
other
question,
and
that
is
the
property
that
we
kind
of?
Let
go
last
time
can
we
is
it
possible
that
we
could
still
retain
that
property
for
this
bypass
to.
L
E
E
Yes,
so
now
we
have
that
piece
of
this
that's
gone
when
this
was
going
through
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
did
not
secure
the
land
when
was
offered
to
us
up
north.
There
were
two
things:
it
completely
went
off
the
the
radar
on
the
D.O.T,
not
on
her
at
all,
what
not
their
long
range
or
nothing.
The
other
was
the
extensive
concern
with
the
low
at
whole
long
low
land
area
along
the
river
down
there
in
the
bottom,
the
cost
of
getting
that
built.
E
So
and
then
my
other
question
was
whose
project
is
it
a
DOT
project
or
ours?
And
then
you
answered
that,
but
you
know
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
any
other
land,
it's
not
on
their
radar.
It
may
never
happen
and
it's
not
a
lot
of
money.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
it
looks
like
it
looks
like
a
complete
waste
of
of
our
money
at
this
point,
with
no
other
indicators
that
this
is
going
to
happen
or
if
it
does
happen
that
this
isn't
in
fact
going
to
get
to
get
used.
E
B
J
We
were
having
a
lot
of
issues
now
that
we've
widened
212
and
we've
got
the
southern
I,
don't
I,
don't
like
the
term
bypass,
but
that
that
road
we
put
in
down
there.
That
does
take
some
of
the
pressure
off
I
think
in
some
regard
to
part
of
212
anyway,
so
the
environment's
changed
quite
a
bit
from
back
then
when
we
were
looking
at
that
project,
that's
all
thanks.
B
B
Motion
fails,
fails
item.
J
is
an
approval
for
the
finance
officer
to
issue
a
special
check
to
the
U.S
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
for
a
flood
control
feasibility
study
in
the
amount
of
175
thousand
dollars
for
a
total
Financial
commitment
of
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
chairs
going
to
make
something
clear
at
the
beginning
of
this.
There
was
some
questions
among
the
council
as
to
how
to
handle
this
agree.
How
to
handle
this
topic
tonight.
B
I
have
chosen
to
keep
it
on
a
public
hearing
because
of
several
different
reasons,
number
one
of
which
is
I
believe
that
the
public
has
a
right
to
know
but
number
two.
This
is
dealing
with
a
very
sensitive
issue
that
has
been
in
the
community
for
Going
on
30
years
now,
I
would
say-
and
it
is
my
desire
to
handle
this
in
a
different
way
than
it
has
been
handled
before,
and
one
of
those
is
to
be
very
transparent
with
what
we're
talking
about
and
how
we're
going
to
handle
it.
B
And
that
means
that
we
are
going
to
have
a
public
hearing,
even
if
it
is
uncomfortable
with
that
said,
if
any
council
person
wants
to
have
more
time
to
consider
this
and
vote
on
it,
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
postpone
indefinitely.
That
will
mean
that
we
will
have
to
take
this
up
as
a
special
counsel
session
at
a
time
before
the
next
Council
session,
because
there
is
some
concern
before
this
was
before
tonight's
meeting.
B
We
were
talking
it
over
with
our
engineering
department,
particularly
City,
and
engineer
Justin
Peterson,
and
there
was
some
concern
as
far
as
the
timing
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers.
As
far
as
we
need
to
get
them
the
money
so
that
they
can
proceed
with
what
they're
doing
so,
it
will
require
action
before
the
next
Council
session,
but
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
postpone
indefinitely
and
then
we
will
just
set
up
a
time
for
a
special
counsel
session
to
take
this
back
up
and
vote
on
it.
B
So
with
that
said,
I
want
to
have
a
public
hearing
on
it,
but
if
any
council
person
wants
more
time,
I
will
I
will
postpone
indefinitely.
I
will
take
that
up
and
it's
still
our
vote
as
to
whether
or
not
we
want
to
postpone
it
or
vote
on
it
tonight.
But
as
it's
been
30
years
that
this
has
been
debated,
I
don't
think
another
few
days
is
going
to
matter
with.
That
said,
we
will
go
to
our
Public
Works
director
Heath
Von
I,
for
more
information.
H
Thank
you
mayor
says
as
we're
all
we're.
The
U.S
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
has
kicked
off
a
flood
control
feasibility
study.
We
had
a
work
session
with
him
here
a
couple
few
weeks
ago.
They
were
on
site
in
Watertown
for
a
couple
of
days.
The
first
day
was
a
work
group
that
brainstormed
different
ideas
and
possibilities
on
what
some
of
the
flood
mitigation
measures
might
be.
It
was
very
productive
discussion.
There
were
probably
eights
eight
to
ten
Corps
of
engineer
staff.
H
H
Really
what
that
was
was
a
a
work
session
to
shed
light
on
options
for
flood
mitigation
measures
that
we
could
be
considering
now
today,
we're
not
completely
forgetting
about
the
past
studies,
they're
very
important,
there's
a
lot
of
good
technical
information
in
those
that
the
court
can
continue
to
use
and
help
save
us
money
on
the
cost.
For
this
study,
this
study
was
earmarked
at
1.8
million.
H
The
feds
are
picking
up
half
of
that
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
their
share.
The
other
half
of
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
comes
at
a
local
cost,
but
the
city
has
applied
through
the
South
Dakota
swarms
funding
the
surface
water
Resource
Management
fund
that
they
help
with
our
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
pay.
Half
of
that.
Some
news
we
just
received
this
week
is
that
the
Board
of
Water
natural
resources
approved
an
additional
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
would
make
up
their
full
contribution
of
450
000..
H
So
again
the
federal
share
900
the
state
is
now
in
for
450
and
the
city
is
in
for
450.
and
that's
for
the
all-encompassing
feasibility
study
at
the
Corps
of
Engineers
estimated
cost
of
1.8
million.
What
this?
What
this
amount
of
money
does
that
we
have
before
the
council
tonight
this
additional
175
000
that
puts
the
total
contribution
from
the
city
in
at
200
000
to
continue
their
feasibility
work.
They've
got
a
lot
of
leg
work
to
do
now
after
those
initial
kickoff
meetings,
and
they
would
continue
to
dig
into
an
assess
those.
H
We
did
also
find
out
from
the
state
that
the
money
we're
spending
to
date,
the
initial
25
000
and
then
this
additional
175,
if
it's
approved,
is
fully
reimbursable
at
a
50
cost.
Here
with
the
state,
we
have
a
reimbursable
form
that
we
can
work
with
finance
office
and
get
that
process
rolling
as
well.
H
The
other
point
I
wanted
to
touch
on
briefly
the
second
day
of
the
Corps
of
Engineers
visit.
Here
we
did
hold
a
landowner
meeting.
It
was
explicitly
the
invites
were
limited
to
the
landowners
from
up
north
where
a
decade
ago,
or
or
more
two
decades
ago,
we
were
looking
at
the
dry
Dam
option
and
we
say
dry
Dam.
That's
that's
what
the
feasibility
study
pointed
to
at
that
time,
as
the
most
logical,
based
on
all
the
factors
that
went
into
that
study,
economical
factors,
functionality
on
helping
mitigate
the
flood
risks,
landowner
impacts.
H
All
those
things
were
weighed
into
these
feasibility
studies
in
the
past,
so
we
had
a
meeting
with
those
landowners
and
had
a
good
kind
of
I.
I
referred
to
it
as
an
icebreaker
session
with
them.
Let
them
know
that
the
study
was
kicking
off
again
to
be
renewed
and
also
let
them
know
and
really
emphasize,
that
the
meeting
we
had
the
day
before
with
the
corps
explored
a
whole
Myriad
of
options.
This
is
not
stepping
into
a
dry
Dam
option.
Here
we
go
with
the
dry
Dam
option.
H
Only
this
is
a
a
new
blank
slate
with
the
core.
They've
got
a
lot
of
new
factors
over
the
last
two
decades
that
they
have
to
consider
now
that
they
didn't
and
weren't
required
to
consider
a
couple
decades
ago.
So
my
point
in
sharing,
that
is
the
fruits
of
this
feasibility
study,
could
very
well
produce
different
options
than
that
dry
Dam
option.
It
very
well
likely
be
a
hybrid
of
a
multitude
of
options.
H
It
might
be
some
certified
levees
through
town,
where
we're
working
with
the
more
directly
impacted
landowners
and
not
the
landowners
up
north
of
town.
It
might
be
a
series
of
smaller
dry
dams,
detention
structures
up
north
of
town
in
combination
with
a
levy
system.
It
could
be
some
Channel
cleaning,
a
channel
widening
measures.
There
are
lots
of
options
like
that
that
were
thrown
out
in
that
work
session.
H
So
that's
kind
of
a
recap,
not
just
this
funding,
but
just
wanted
to
give
the
council
an
update
on
where
we're
at
after
those
meetings
we
had
with
the
corps
a
few
weeks
ago
and
explain
a
little
bit
about
the
cost
share
and
the
financing
and
where
we're
at
today.
So
with
that
I'll
stand
by
for
any
questions.
B
Thank
you
very
much
now
just
to
explain
how
we're
going
to
do
this.
We
have
to
take
a
motion
in
order
to
begin
conversation
on
this,
so
I
will
accept
a
motion
to
approve
the
issuance
of
the
check,
with
the
understanding
to
the
council
that
if
anyone
does
want
to
have
an
alternative
motion
later
on
in
the
conversation,
we
will
take
that
up
and
discuss
that.
But
we
do
need
a
motion
or
in
order
to
discuss
it
so
for
discussion
purposes,
councilman
Tupper
seconded
by
councilman
Paulson.
B
Okay,
now,
in
order
to
begin
I,
will
defer
to
also
to
city
manager,
Mack
I
just
want
to
make
it
very
clear
to
everyone
that
this
is
not
just
bringing
up
the
past.
This
is
a
new
study
that
is
not
just
an
attempt
to
bring
up
past
options
and
try
to
Ram
them
through.
That
is
not
what
this
is
about.
This
is
about
coming
up
with
a
flood
mitigation
proposal
for
the
city
of
Watertown,
which
is
extremely
important
so
that
we
do
not
go
through
if
we're
talking
about
revisiting
the
past.
B
Let's
revisit
the
floods
and
the
impact
that
they
had
on
Watertown
and
that's
all
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
just
figure
out
a
way
to
move
forward
with
a
way
to
protect
this
lovely
City.
This
is
not
necessarily
going
down
the
option
that
was
explored
in
the
past
and
I
just
want
to
make
that
very
clear.
Any
conversation,
Council
councilman
Danforth.
E
E
G
G
G
E
Well,
first
of
all
of
us
want
some
type
of
a
solution
for
the
river
because
it
affects
not
only
the
the
community
in
regards
to
our
residents
and
homes.
It
affects
our
Lake
and
our
two
lakes
here
and
affects
everybody
Downstream.
So
some
type
of
solution
is
I
know
it's
desired
by
everybody
matter.
How
do
we
get
to
something
that's
acceptable,
but
the
question
I
have
is
is
a
couple
questions.
One
is
let's
say
we
we
did
the
study
and
we
don't
know
what
the
outcome
is
going
to
be.
E
But
let's
just
say
whatever
that
outcome
is,
is
adamantly
opposed
by
the
landowners.
So
my
question
at
that
point
is:
how
long
is
that
study?
How
long
is
it
pertinent?
Is
it
still
that
information
good
for
five
years?
Is
it
good
for
ten
years?
Is
it?
Is
it
ever
good?
If
one
sets
gets
you
know
if
it
if
we
don't
follow
through?
So
how
long
is
that
study
good
for
and
then
the
question
I
have?
Is
it
again
get
back
to
it?
E
E
So
what's
the
value
of
this
and
I
think
I
I
think
Heath
in
your
in
your
description
of
it,
it
probably
makes
some
sense
in
there,
and
that
is
we
don't
know
what
the
proposal
is
going
to
be
right.
So
unless
we
spend
the
money
we're
not
going
to
know,
but
you
know
what,
if
we
get
to
that
point
when
it's,
if
it's
just
not
an
acceptable
and
there's
no
way
around
that
that
stance,
what
do
we
do?
E
We
now
we've
spent
another,
what
one
or
two
million
million
dollars
I
think
on
the
whole
thing
between
everybody's
money.
What
do
we
do?
Yeah
and
that's
my
concern-
is
it's
very
easily
locked
up?
Understandably,
you
know
by
a
really
a
small
number
of
people.
The
landowners
which
is
very
important
and
I
understand
that.
So
that's
just
the
thoughts
that
I
have
on
it.
Is
you
know
how
long
is
the
study
good
for
and
what?
If
what?
If
we
end
up
in
the
same
scenario,.
H
H
The
other
point
I
was
going
to
make
to
that
in
our
in
our
kickoff
meetings
with
the
core.
You
know
mind
you.
This
is
a
full
new
staff.
There
are
a
couple
of
individuals
that
kind
of
knew
about
the
Watertown
study
from
the
past
because
they
were
on
board
with
the
corps,
but
in
different
positions:
Greg
for
example's,
one
of
the
higher
ups
that
we're
dealing
with
in
some
of
the
new
criteria.
H
He
emphasized
in
our
meetings
really
hit
on
the
fact
I
hit
on
a
minute
ago
that
if
this
doesn't
work
as
a
community-
and
that
includes
the
people
up
north
being
part
of
that
Community
they're
not
going
to
recommend
something
that
doesn't
work
for
the
community
and
I.
That
was
pretty
telling
to
me
that
this
is
a.
This
is
a
whole
new
blank
slate.
We
are
walking
into
this
eyes
wide
open.
H
There
are
no
blinders
on
with
the
past
perceived
outcomes
from
past
studies,
they're
really
looking
at
it
from
scratch
here
with
a
whole
new
set
of
regulations
and
requirements
that
they
have
to
look
at
it
with
so
I,
don't
know
if
that
helps
with
the
risk.
That's
there
there's
always
a
risk.
You
know
you're
not
going
to
make
everybody
happy
with
whatever
solution
comes
to
be,
but
I
I
do
know
that
the
approach
today
sounds
a
lot
different
like
than
what
it
was
a
couple
decades
ago.
F
N
F
F
A
comment
I
I
was
not
able
to
I
was
in
and
out
of
the
the
two-day
charette
as
it
was
called
here
a
couple
three
weeks
ago,
but
what
what
I
was
able
to
pick
up
on
that
Public
Works
director
of
an
eye
alluded
to
is
I,
was
excited
to
hear
if
there
were
a
number
of
different
options
being
considered,
rather
than
just
one
one
slam
dunk
option.
That
was
proposed
way
back
when
that's
still
what
the
core
is
sticking
to.
F
Another
comment
that
I'd
like
to
make
is
I
understand
that
you
know
we're
an
awful
long
ways
from
coming
forward
with
the
recommendation.
As
far
as
where
we
go
with
this,
but
we've
we've
got
any
number
of
delegations
that
are
going
to
bat
for
us
on
this.
You
know:
we've
got
the
lake
and
Pasco
Water
Project
District
people
are
looking
at
committing
dollars.
F
We've
got
State
dollars
looking
at
coming
to
help
us
out
with
this
as
well
as
our
federal
delegation
has
gone
to
bad
with
us
to
bring
this
study
back
to
life,
so
I
would
hate
to
pull
the
plug
on
this
before
we
even
get
a
chance
to
go
anywhere
with
the
study
in
and
of
itself.
So
for
that
reason
I,
you
know
I
175,
000
I,
don't
argue
that's
big
dollars,
but
we'd
be
foolish
in
my
opinion,
to
not
take
the
next
step
on
this
and
keep
this
project
or
process
moving
forward.
M
Thank
you
mayor
director,
Von
I,
guess
your
explanation
did
help
I
had
some
concerns
coming
into
this.
This
meeting,
just
not
the
in
the
price
tag
of
The
Next,
Step,
175
000,
but
also
the
yeah,
the
communication
with
the
with
all
parties
involved
and
I
guess:
I
hadn't
heard
any
anything.
Yet
as
far
as
how
those
conversations
went-
and
maybe
it's
true
premature-
maybe
it
does
take
this
next
phase
to
get
the
proper
communication.
So
we
can
really
get
a
pulse
of
where
this
goes.
M
I
am
I
am
encouraged
by
the
perspective
that
the
core
engineer
you're
saying
is
taking
on
this.
They
are
going
to
sound
like
they're,
going
to
evaluate
anything
and
everything
that's
possible
in
this
process,
instead
of
just
kind
of
having
tunnel
vision.
If
you
will
so
I
mean
I,
guess
that
that's
my
concern,
I
guess
but
I'm
encouraged
by
just
some
of
the
conversation
tonight,
because
I
do
I
want
to
make
sure
we
keep
all
parties
involved
and
communicate
as
much
as
we
can
and
and
I.
M
O
This
is
definitely
a
tough
discussion.
Obviously
you
know
I
I
do
view
us.
We
are
the
council
for
water
tone,
but
obviously
we
have
to
take
an
effect
that
there's
a
lot
there.
Other
people
and
communities
that
are
affected
by
this
I've
gotten
to
know
or
I've,
gotten
close
with
a
family
that
I
didn't
realize
was
affected,
but
they're
directly
affected
by
this.
O
They
did
talk
to
me
about
it,
I
understand
their
concerns
and
it
it
makes
sense,
but
at
the
same
time
this
has
the
potential
to
affect
thousands
of
people,
especially
within
water.
Some
water
tone,
City,
Limits,
so
I
do
think
it's
appropriate
to
move
forward
with
it
at
least
the
feasibility
study,
because
one
thing
the
public
has
to
realize
is
we're
not
forcing
this
right
now.
K
K
The
people
north
of
here
are
our
neighbors
they're,
just
as
much
our
neighbors
as
the
guy
that
lives
across
the
street.
From
me
before
in
the
past,
they
weren't
really
treated
right
in
the
whole
situation,
so
I
I
don't
oppose
this
I
just
want
to
be
very
careful,
moving
forward,
make
sure
that
it
is
made
very
public
and
everybody
is
involved
in
it.
A
question
for
you,
Mr
van
I,
when
the
public
to
the
or
our
neighbors
to
the
north
were
invited.
What
was
the
turnout
to
that?
Was
it.
H
Probably
40
ish
people
in
the
room,
I,
don't
have
an
exact
count,
I
apologize,
but
somewhere
around
there
and,
of
course,
a
mix
of
reactions.
The
point
was
to
emphasize
to
them.
This
was
an
icebreaker
meeting.
We
just
wanted
them
to
know
that
we're
getting
this
process
rolling
and
there
were
a
couple
comments.
H
You
know
that
maybe
echoed
some
of
the
past
distaste
to
a
dry
Dam
option,
but
there
are
also
some
constructive
comments
about
being
appreciative
of
being
brought
into
the
loop
and
wanting
to
know
more
as
we
progress
which
we
assured
then
we
would
definitely
keep
them
in
tune
with
so
I.
Think
overall
was
a
good
productive
discussion.
Thank.
B
You
and
I
would
just
like
to
answer
that.
I
was
at
that
meeting
as
well
and
I
would
say
the
conversation
started
with
a
let's
say,
a
rehashing
of
the
past,
and
it
took
a
while
to
get
past
that
point
to
where
discussion
about
the
future
would
lead
us
and
I.
Think
at
that
point,
while
still
definitely
not
an
attitude
of
universal
agreement.
B
In
that
room,
there
was
at
least
some
appreciation
that
we
were
not
just
going
down
the
same
road
that
we
have
in
the
past
that,
and
also
that,
most
importantly,
that
we're
not
just
going
to
run
this
through
irregardless
of
public
sentiment
yeah
to
the
to
our
neighbors
of
the
north.
We
are
just
trying
to
come
up
with
a
solution.
I
think
that
everyone
understands.
B
K
J
Thank
you
mayor,
you
know,
I,
don't
think
we
have
much
of
a
choice.
I
I
think
their
requirements
for
the
for
the
corps
now
are
that
they
investigate
other
opportunities,
other
options
or
combinations
of
options.
To
do
this,
you
know,
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we're
respectful
of
the
landowners
but
I
think
at
some
point.
As
we
move
through
this
process.
You
know
we
look
at
options
as
these
options
come
up.
J
I
think
it
it's
going
to
be
key
to
keep
those
landowners
involved,
keep
and
get
a
pulse
kind
of
get
some
ideas
to
how
they
feel
about
if
we
did
a
and
if
we
did
b
as
those
ABCs
come
available,
I
think
it's
important
for
them
to
for
us
to
kind
of
get
a
feel
for
where
they're
at
on
that.
But
you
know
we
got
roughly
80
percent
of
the
population.
J
This
county
is
in
Watertown,
and
so
you
know
it's
it's
it's
something
that's
going
to
have
to
serve
everybody,
and
this
has
been
the
5
000
pound
elephant
in
the
room
for
some
years
and
we've
waited
I
mean
we've
waited
a
long
time
for
the
core.
Just
to
move
on
this
thing
and
I
fear
that
if
we
do
anything
to
delay
this,
we
could
end
up
moving
to
the
bottom
of
the
list
and
could
be
another
long
period
of
time
before
it
gets
Revisited.
So
just
those
are
just
a
few
of
my
comments.
Thank
you.
B
Councilman
Danforth,
if
you're,
okay
with
this
I
I,
don't
want
to
wait
for
my
comments
until
after
everyone
and
make
it
sound
like
I'm,
I
I
want
to
engage
in
the
conversation
and
not
just
say,
like
I.
Have
the
final
word
so
well.
I
do
but,
but
with
that
said,
I
I
didn't
want
to
Spring
my
comments
at
the
end
and
then
not
have
anyone
have
a
chance
to
reply
to
them
as
well.
Councilman
Beeler
mentioned
a
good
thing
about
the
timing.
B
If
you
go
back
to
when
the
core,
when
this
was
being
brought
thought
about,
even
if
we
come
up
with
a
solution
where
we're
looking
at
years
down
the
road
kind
of
an
uncomfortable
number
of
years
truthfully.
But
if
we
postpone
this-
and
we
say
no
to
this
study
at
this
time,
I
can
only
imagine
how
many
more
years
we're
going
to
be
pushed
down.
The
road
I
would
say
easily
I
and
I'm
not
kidding
past
my
lifetime.
B
I
really
do
think
so,
with
the
way
that
government
moves
and
I
know,
one
thing
is
I
got
involved
with
government.
I
know
that
this
is
an
oxymoron,
but
I
got
involved
with
government
to
get
things
done,
especially
for
my
hometown,
and
this
has
been
one
of,
if
not
the
largest
issue
facing
this
community
for
decades,
and
if
there
is
a
chance
of
coming
up
with
a
solution
that
would
benefit
the
community
and
protect
us
from
another
devastating
flood.
B
I've
got
to
take
that
chance.
It
is
uncomfortable
to
me
to
basically
write
a
check,
knowing
that
we
might
be
having
this
conversation
again
next
year
about
writing
another
check,
but
I
do
know
when
you're
talking
about
a
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
when
you
figure
out
the
property
value
that
is
affected
in
this
town
and
the
tax
revenue
that
would
face
this
city
with
another
flood
that
would
shut
us
down
for
a
couple
months.
B
I
just
know
what
the
cost
is
and
in
a
cost-benefit
analysis
I'll
take
that
chance.
So
it
does
make
me
uncomfortable
I,
don't
like
no,
not
knowing
what
the
cost
is
going
to
be,
what
the
timing
is
going
to
be
or
what
the
actual
idea
is
going
to
be
proposed.
But
I
do
know
what
my
motivation
is
and
that's
to
just
try
to
get
things
done
for
this
community
that
I
love
so
anyway,
no
go
ahead,
poke
fun
with
me:
councilman
Danforth.
E
E
H
E
D
H
Yeah,
the
the
number
of
landowners
impacted
too
there's
there's
two
tiers
of
them.
Essentially,
the
one
is
where
the
physical
construction
of
the
dam
would
be,
where
you're
building
an
earth
and
berm,
essentially
a
pretty
large
Earth
and
berm
that
is
going
to
be
useless
to
whoever's
land
that
is
so
that'd,
be
a
complete
buyout
scenario.
For
for
something
like
that
again,
this
is
all
speculatory
in
that
scenario,
but
the
second
tier
of
impacted
landowners
again
under
the
dry
Dam
option
is
what
they
call
the
pooling
area.
H
E
Right
so,
and
then
Amanda
I
would
just
like
to
say
you
know
you're
the
logic
for
the
the
core
in
for
such
to
to
have
that
as
a
non-public
median
I
think
there's
good
logic
there,
because
it's
just
a
it's
an
easier
environment
at
that
point
to
have
discussion
without
being
under
the
microscope,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we
have
a
choice
in
doing
this.
I
really
don't
I,
but
there's
all
kinds
of
concerns,
unknowns.
E
H
To
councilman
Dan
Force
Point,
actually
to
the
mayor's
point
a
little
bit
ago,
I
just
wanted
to
express
as
a
staff
member
I'm.
Looking
at
a
slide
here
from
the
public
information
we
shared
with
landowners,
it
was
1972
when
the
corps
first
started,
looking
at
flood
control
studies
and
performed
the
first
flood
control
study
for
Watertown,
so
you're
looking
at
five
decades
worth
of
work,
that's
gone
into
this.
H
H
We
will
be
striving
when
working
with
the
corps
and
pressing
upon
them
those
those
different
options,
those
hybrid
options,
the
shifting
of
Gears,
to
get
to
a
results-oriented
solution
through
this
study
and
that's
our
goal
as
staff
and
we're
hopeful
in
accomplishing
that
and
again
I
was
very
pleasantly
informed
by
them
about
their
methods.
Today
are
different
than
they
were
a
couple
decades
ago
and
I
think
we've
got
a
lot
of
room
to
grow
here
in
a
positive
direction.
With
this
study.
B
Any
further
questions
or
comments,
I
am
going
to
take
my
mayoral
privilege
and
have
the
last
word
before
we
vote.
I
just
want
to
share
not
this
isn't
for
the
council
necessarily
except
to
say
thank
you.
This
is
for
the
community
and
to
just
point
out
a
couple
things
that
I
hope
that
they
are
appreciative
of,
and
that
is
number
one,
the
openness
of
this
discussion.
This
is
not
being
handled
in
secret.
B
We
are
sharing
all
the
information
we
have
and
the
most
important
thing
that
I'd
like
to
share-
and
this
is
the
thanks-
that
I
have
to
the
council
and
to
the
city
staff-
is
again
this
attitude
of
getting
things
done
and
not
kicking
anything
down
the
road
that
is
important
to
this
community,
addressing
it
finding
Solutions,
there's
no
promise
that
we
will
find
a
solution.
We
all
know
that,
but
the
attitude
on
this
Council
I
appreciate
very
much,
and
that
is
the
desire
to
find
one
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
that.
B
M
Shetty
I
guess
I
wasn't
planning
on
I
almost
forgot
but
I'm
on
the
library
board
and
we
have
a
new
director
for
the
Watertown
Regional
Library
Maria
grew.
How
do
you
pronounce
your
last
name?
Gruner
gruner,
Maria
gruner,
just
my
opinion
and
my
thought
is
she's
she's
due
she's,
ready
and
so
I
look
forward
to
to
moving
forward
in
the
library
and
and
just
wanted
to
just
acknowledge
her
tonight
for
her
her
promotion,
Maria.
B
I
would
like,
if
you
would
take
a
moment,
to
come
to
the
microphone
and
just
say,
because
you
have
been
working
at
our
library
here
for
quite
some
time
and
just
say
how
long
you've
been
working
and
your
background
and
why
you
wanted
the
position.
I
also
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
simply
because
a
lot
of
people
don't
understand.
A
lot
of
people
might
not
understand
that
we,
as
a
city
council,
are
not
even
city
manager.
Mack
made
this
decision
to
hire
you.
This
was
the
library
board,
and
that
is
the
decision.
Yeah.
B
T
Okay,
I've
been
employed
here
at
Watertown,
Regional
Library
and
with
the
city
of
Watertown
for
approximately
the
last
14
years.
As
the
assistant
director
I've
done
a
wide
range
of
things.
I've
worked
with
the
library
board
previously
I
mostly
deal
with
Adult
Services,
so
anything
having
to
do
with
adults.
That's
me
before
that.
G
G
If
you
have
not
seen
November
10th
and
possibly
November
11th
the
shower
steam
room,
sauna
and
bathrooms
will
be
blocked
off
in
the
women's
locker
room
to
work
on
the
steam
room.
There's
some
mold
remediation
that
is
happening.
The
private
locker
rooms
will
be
available
in
the
family,
locker
rooms
and
then
lastly,
please
put
4
30
pm
on
December
5th
location,
to
be
determined
for
the
reveal
of
the
city
logo
and
the
state
of
the
city
addressed
by
mayor
holy.
F
H
Thank
you,
manager,
Mack
I,
just
talked
to
Justin
about
this
earlier
today,
they're
having
a
little
bit
of
difficulty
getting
the
last
bit
of
asphalt
to
pave
the
rest
of
third
attending
that
they're,
probably
a
couple
weeks
out
yet
hopefully
if
they
can
get
that
Asphalt
in,
but
all
intentions
are
it's
open.
Yet
here
this
fall
and
hopefully
sooner
than
later,.
O
B
G
O
That
note
I
do
want
to
I
see
a
lot
of
negative
comments
out
there
about
I
mean
not
only
Highway
212
but
Third
Avenue,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
complications
right
now,
still
with
supply
chain
issues
and
and
stuff
that
you
won't
even
think
about.
So
just
give
give
them
credit
if
you
can,
because
it's
it's
a
hard
world
right
now
to
be
in
and
right
now
now
it's
cold
and
people
are
miserable.
So.
B
B
Considering
the
limitations
on
the
personnel
and
the
supplies
and
just
say
in
the
past,
we
would
be
teased
about
not
wanting
to
go
not
wanting
to
go
from
one
side
of
Watertown
to
the
other,
because
you
didn't
want
to
drive
on
the
roads
and
now
it's
the
opposite,
there's
so
much
construction
going
on
and
so
much
repair.
So
just
a
little
more
patience.
Please
I
guess!
B
But
thank
you
any
further
announcements.
Yep!
Please
exercise
your
right
to
vote
tomorrow.
Protect
our
democracy,
protect
our
constitutional
republic
and
please
get
out
and
vote.
There
is
no
reason
to
go
into
executive
session.
Chair
will
therefore
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn
motion
made
by
councilman
Dan
Force,
second
by
councilman
Bueller.
Any
discussion
on
that
hearing
on
the
motion
is
to
adjourn
all
those
in
favor.
Please
say:
aye
aye
Indiana
motion
carries
good
night
and
God
bless
you
Watertown.