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From YouTube: Decision Session - Executive Member for Economy and Strategic Planning, 1 September 2020
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AGENDA
1. Declarations of Interest 00:00:21
2. Minutes 00:00:36
3. Public Participation 00:00:56
4. The Business and Planning Act 2020 - consequences and actions 00:01:07
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A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
executive
member
meeting
for
economy
and
strategic
planning
on
tuesday
1st
of
september,
just
like
to
in
this
unusual
circumstances,
welcome
everyone
in
terms
of
the
agenda
item,
one
declarations
of
interest.
I
don't
have
any
declarations
that
are
not
already
on
the
register
of
interests.
A
A
So
that
brings
us
on
to
a
gender
item
for
the
business
and
planning
act,
2020,
consequences
and
implementation,
and
before
I
bring
in
mike
slater
and
matt
boxhall
to
comment
on
this,
this
has
been
brought
as
this
is
a
significant
consultation
which
could
result
in
huge
changes
to
the
operation
of
councils
and
in
particular,
the
way
in
which
the
public
have
been
able
to
comment
on
planning
applications
and
have
become
accustomed
to
this.
So
I
think
it's
an
important
feature
that
will
affect
all
counsellors
and
this
pay.
A
B
B
B
The
consultations
council
waller
that
you've
referred
to
came
rather
unexpectedly
and
two
very
significant
consultation
papers
and
changes
to
the
the
planning
system.
Just
as
a
personal
comment,
I
think
rather
disappointing
perhaps
that
these
appear
mid
mid
august
really
with
a
fairly
limited
time
for
people
to
respond.
B
A
raft
of
very
important
things
there's
been
quite
a
bit
of
publicity
in
in
the
media
about
this,
and
the
consultation
just
to
remind
everyone.
They've
got
two
different
deadlines:
one's
the
beginning
of
october
and
one's
the
29th
of
october.
So
there
is
a
lot
to
do
on
that
in
terms
of
the
the
second
part
of
the
report.
That's
before
you
today,
council
war
is
really
a
very
much
a
summary
of
some
of
the
changes
that
have
taken
place
in
relation
to
planning
legislation
and
licensing.
B
These
have
come
through
at
different
stages,
since
the
the
kovid
19
situation
arose.
Some
of
them
are
clearly
temporary
measures
that
are
time
limited,
whereas
other
matters
that
appear
to
be
moving
forward,
for
example,
changes.
It
sounds
a
bit
dry
and
dull
to
the
planning
youth
classes.
Order,
look
like
they
may
well
be
permanent
changes
and
can
have
consequences.
B
I
think
for
how
not
just
for
york,
but
across
the
country
how
towns
and
cities
are
shaped
by
the
ability
of
of
landowners
and
developers
to
be
able
to
have
a
lot
more
flexibility
in
some
cases
than
they
previously
had.
So
I
think,
understanding
what
the
implications
may
be
will
take
some
time
to
work
out
in
terms
of
how
that
might
pan
out
in
terms
of
changes
to
the
to
the
city,
both
in
the
city
centre
and
and
protect
potentially
to
some
of
the
district
centers
as
well.
B
A
B
A
C
C
C
Not
well,
but
again
that
doesn't
it's
not
for
everybody,
because
some
people
have
some
people
have
already.
You
know
already
had
off
license
provisions.
Some
people
were
already
doing,
takeaways,
etc,
etc,
and
it
doesn't
apply
if
you've,
if
you've
had
your
license
reviewed
recently
and
had
such
provisions
taken
away,
but
that
doesn't
apply
in
new
york
and
then
there's
a
new
process
for
dealing
with
any
anti-social,
behavioural
problems
that
arise
from
these
premises.
C
Yeah
that
that
that's
right,
that
is
a
that
that
is
a
concern,
certainly
of
mine.
When
I
heard
this
legislation
was
coming
in,
thankfully
it's
not
bought
those
concerns
haven't
really
materialized.
I
don't,
I
don't
think
and
there's
been
a
huge
you
know.
Certainly
in
the
opening
weekend
there
was
a
huge
police
and
licensing
presence
in
in
the
city
center
and
trying
to
ensure
this
all
all
went
smoothly
and
get
it.
C
You
know
get
off
on
the
right
foot
which,
which
I
think
we
did
so
that
was
good
again,
not
all
business,
not
all
pubs
have
opened,
and
you
know,
but
that
could
have
been
a
double-edged
sword
really
because
it
could
have
meant
that
there
were
there
were
more
people
going
to
the
pubs
that
that
had
decided
to
to
open,
but
again
that
seems
to
be
fairly
fairly
controlled
so
far.
So
that's
that
that
that's
good.
C
In
the
in
the
squares
and
other
parts
of
the
city
that
works
continuing
in
order
to
you
know
to
try
and
have
controlled
spaces
where
people
are
socializing
responsibly
and
and
not
have
you
know,
mass
crowds
in
these
in
these
areas
gathering
in
these
parts
of
the
city
which
could
be
available?
If,
if
we
don't
try
and
introduce
some
sort
of
order
into
these
areas,
so.
A
It
would
be
helpful
if
there
could
be
regular
reporting,
particularly
of
the
speed
with
which
licenses
are
given,
so
that
there
isn't
an
instance
where
people
automatically
get
their
license
simply
because
there
hasn't
been
a
response
within
the
the
14
days.
So
I
think
that
would
be
important
to
be
reported
to
myself
and
the
chair
of
licensing
with
these.
These
new
systems
and
some
some
of
these
changes
operate
until
september
2021.
A
Right,
so,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
your
input,
so
mike
it's
just
going
onto
the
planning
issues.
It
was
very
striking
that
the
government
paper
and
surrounding
put
comments
took
a
particular
attack
on
notices
on
lampposts,
as
though
that
was
something
particularly
wrong,
although
for
for
many
people
who
are
not
immediately
adjacent
to
a
planning
application
in
the
receipt
of
a
letter,
that
is
how
they
find
out.
A
B
B
So,
in
terms
of
notifications
under
we,
yes,
we
continue
to
to
use
a
combination
of
neighbor
letters,
emails
and
on-site
notices
as
well.
I
think
one
of
the
perhaps
welcome
changes
is
that
there's
been
a
long,
a
long-standing
requirement
that
some
planning
applications
are
publicized
in
a
locally
circulating
newspaper.
B
I,
I
think,
perhaps
being
able
the
ability
and
it's
something
we
will
look
at
in
terms
of
response-
the
ability
for
us
to
be
able
to
publicize
things
on
our
website.
For
example,
I
think
a
is
a
welcome
addition
to
the
raft
of
of
places
where
people
can
get
that
information,
but
as
you've
I
think
correctly
pointed
out.
You
know
there
is
still
a
need
for
access
for
people
who
don't
have
access
to
the
internet
to
find.
A
A
B
B
B
I
think
some
of
these
we
clearly
in
terms
of
going
back
on
the
consultation
and
feeding
back
to
government
on
some
of
these
things.
Obviously,
it's
our
practice
that
we
would
provide
planning
inspectors
with
effectively
almost
a
copy
of
our
file,
so
that
they
would
be
aware
of
representations
that
people
would
make,
but
clearly
people
as
you've,
I
think
have
hinted
at-
would
wish
to
quite
often
make
further
representations,
in
addition
to
matters
that
they
may
have
covered
in
direct
correspondence
with
the
planning
authority.
B
C
A
Ensuring
that
break
times
are
staggered
and
there
has
been
a
request
from
ministers
to
to
relax
start
times,
but
recognizing
that
if
you
live
next
to
a
building
site,
that
the
operation
of
that
site
from
the
longer
work
hours
which
ministers
were
seeking
start
of
six
a.m
and
the
finish
time
of
9
00
pm.
That
is
a
significant
period
of
time
if,
for
instance,
there
operating
pneumatic
drills
the
whole
whole
of
that
time.
A
B
Understand
and
share
those
concerns
council
wallet
in
terms
of
requests
that
we've
had,
rather
than
giving
any
blanket
approvals
to
any
any
developers.
Any
any
builders
we've
been
interrogating
them
to
find
out
what
it
is
that
they
want
to
do
why
they
want
to
extend
the
hours
and
what
activity
they're
going
to
undertake
during
those.
C
B
A
Right,
I
think
it's
important
that
award
councillors
understand
what
has
what
is
being
applied
for
because
they
invariably
will
get
the
complaints
from
residents
if
they
perceive
that
existing
planning
permission
is
being
breached.
Therefore,
I
think
it's
important
that
as
a
minimum,
there
is
a
notification
in
the
weekly.
B
A
Promotion
of
we
get
a
weekly
list
of
applications,
so
just
with
the
caveat
that
this
is
the
direction
of
government,
it
doesn't
follow
all
of
the
other
planning
laws.
It
will
not
be
going
to
planning
committee
under
any
circumstance,
but
I
think
it
is
important
to
be
up
front
that
something
has
been
applied
for
and
that
when
the
officers
have
reviewed
the
application
and
come
to
a
decision
on
that
that
that
decision
is
also
publicized.
A
B
Yes,
so
I
think
we
can
what
we
can
do
happy
to
do
that
we
can.
We
need
to
put
them
into
the
weekly
list,
distinguish
them
from
other
applications
where
people
will
be
familiar
with
a
generally
an
eight
week,
but
sometimes
a
thirteen
week
time
scale.
So
we
just
need
to
make
sure
that
we
can
flag
up
that.
C
A
So
it
would
be
helpful
to
send
a
normal
counselor
email
to
that
effect.
To
say
this
is
this:
is
this
is
going
to
start
coming?
It
is
not
operating
under
the
planning
law.
It's
a
separate
system,
it's
just
for
notification
and
that
there's
a
means
of
notification
on
the
planning
portal,
so
that
people
are
aware
of
what's
happening.
Happy.
B
B
B
A
B
A
B
We
haven't
had
any
we
haven't
any
of
these
yet
and
we
have
to,
I
think,
work
through
these
obviously
welcome
to
prior
approval.
There's
an
awful
lot
of
details
still
required.
So
it's
not
really
a
a
permitted
development
in
in,
in
a
sense
of
there's,
still
an
awful
lot
for
the
applicants
to
to
do
and
for
us
to
be
able
to
hopefully
ensure
some
of
the
details
are.
Okay,.
A
B
A
B
B
A
A
B
A
So
there
is
a
not
just
this
particular
issue
yeah,
but
other
issues
where
there's
a
potential
reduction
in
income,
because
permissions
without
requiring
planned
mission
is
expanded
and
then
in
the
government,
consultation
there's
additional
3d
modeling,
there's
a
whole
raft
of
new
expectations,
all
of
which
will
require
funding.
So
there's
a
general
resource
gap
being
created.
A
B
That's
that's
correct.
I
think
that
we
could
lead
to
that
clear.
We'll
have
to
see
how
that
transpires
and
again,
we've
just
talked
about
some
of
the
the
the
prior
approval
requirements
requiring
quite
a
lot
of
work,
but
the
fees
are
likely
to
be
significant
significantly
less
than
they
were
for
a
previously
a
full
application,
so
that
that
will
potentially,
as
you
say,
leaves
in
a
situation
where
we're
spending
say
90
of
the
time,
but
we're
only
going
to
get
a
much
smaller
percentage
of
the
fee
income
to
cover
those
costs.
So.
B
Think
the
sorry
it
could
be,
I
think
we
could
flag
that
up.
Council
waller,
I
think
we
won't
have
a
lot
of
data
to
be
able
to
present
at
that
time,
but
I
think
perhaps
flunging
it
up
as
a
as
an
issue,
and
it
may
be
something
that
then
coming
back
to
one
of
your
future
decision
sessions
that
we
decide
if
we
want
to
to
to
lobby
government
or
through
the
local
government,
association
or.
A
A
A
So
that
brings
us
to
the
significant
list
of
questions
in
the
yeah,
the
annexes
and
I'm
not
proposing
to
go
through
and
provide
draft
answers
for
these.
Now.
I
think
the
purpose
of
today's
decision
session
was
effectively
to
table
these
to
have
a
point
of
reference
to
direct
members
and
officers
and
also
to
raise
in
the
public
profile.
A
But
there
are
very
many
people
who
enjoy
submitting
comments
to
planning
applications,
and
that
is
part
of
the
democratic
process
and
therefore
ensuring
that
those
residents
and,
in
fact,
all
residents
because
planning
applications
appear
across
the
whole
city
and
when
it
affects
you,
you
take
a
very
serious
interest
in
the
in
the
issues
to
to
flag
that
up.
So
it
would
be
helpful
to
ensure
that
any
council
publication
does
include
a
a
a
link
to
to
this
work
so
that
it's
all.
A
Heavily
publicized
does
implications,
particularly
on
resources
for
your
own
team,
and
there
is
you
know:
people
have
a
public
expectation
of
what
the
local
authority
will
do
on
their
behalf
to
regularize
planning
and
therefore,
if
you're
prevented
and
hampered
from
from
doing
that,
then
we
really
do
need
to
flag
it
up,
but
we
covered
that
in
terms
of
the
process.
Yeah.
B
B
A
So,
let's
get
to
reminding
we'll
just
we'll
just
go
through
so
on
page
28,
pillar,
2
planning
for
beautiful
and
sustainable
places.
I
do
remember
asking
saron
cook
when
he
was
chair
of
the
civic
trust.
What
a
beautiful
building
was,
and
he
said
you
will
know
it
when
you
see
it
which
it
was
a
beautifully
scientific
response
to
the
question.
A
B
For
heritage
we've
had
heritage
assets,
so
that
they're,
through
that
you
know
through
conservation
areas
through
listed
buildings
and
then
into
things
like
schedule,
ancient
monuments
and,
as
you
know,
cancer
water,
then
you
know
the
some
of
those
are
categorized,
so
listed,
buildings
are
of
different
grades.
For
example,
I
think
some
of
the
consultations,
I
think
some
of
the
things
that
it
raises
sort
of
questions,
some
of
the
things
it's
hard
to
give
a
response.
I
think,
without
you
sort
of
feel
like
you
need
more
information
really
to
to
understand
how.
A
C
A
I
appreciate,
from
the
point
of
view
of
developers,
can
be
frustrating,
but
that's
the
system
that
we
work
in
to
ensure
that
there
is
compensatory
community
benefit
to
the
consequence
of
a
large
or
small
application
it
in
terms
of
understanding
the
implication
to
the
authority,
because
this
will
be
a
considerable
sum
of
money.
If,
if
it
were
to
be
lost,
then
that
would
be
a
significant
gap
in
the
provision
of
services.
A
Equally,
I
think,
there's
been
a
general
review
of
if
there
is
an
uplift
in
the
value
of
land
in
an
area
because
of
investment
of
public
expenditure,
then
that
should
be
shared
rather
than
private
developers
garnering
its
polls.
So
I
think
what
I'm
asking
here
is
in
order
for
the
authority
to
give
a
considered
response.
B
I
think
I
think
there
may
be
some
some
general
comments
here
that
one
of
the
issues
I
see
is
the
proposal
seeking
comments
on
having.
I
think
it's
a
fixed,
a
fixed
threshold,
a
fixed
levy
and
how
that
would
work
really
if
it's
a
fixed
levy
across
the
the
country,
because
clearly,
at
the
moment,
in
terms
of
viability
assessment,
we
would
look
at
something
that
was
your
york-based
information.
B
B
For
example,
that's
just
one
of
the
yeah,
but
I
think
we
we
will
look
at
that
with
with
finance
colleagues,
but
also
perhaps
we
do
get
important
support
from
the
district
valuers
office
as
to
whether
we
can
liaise
with
them
because
they're
the
people
that
quite
often
are
working
on
the
consideration
of
viability,
assessments
that
are
submitted
with
applications,
but
there's
a
lot
of
detail
in
there
and
the
details.
Not
the
detail,
isn't
there
yet
as
to
how
that's
going
to
work.
A
But
I
think
it
is
an
important
aspect
from
the
authorities
point
of
view,
because
it
is
over
time
will
be
such
a
significant
amount
of
money
that
we
need
at
this
point
to
have
submitted
as
strong
a
case
that
we
can
and
again
this
will
affect
all
local
authorities
so
working
with
the
lga.
But
I
think
it's
important
that
this
is
not
lost
that,
whilst
this
is
item
19
actually
in
in
terms
of
the
input
to
the
authority,
it's
it
is
a
a
significant
one.
It's.
A
A
A
Teams
about
the
potential
benefits
pitfalls
with
a
system,
because
this
is
something
that
is
very
strenuously
debated
between
applicants
and
the
authority,
and
we
need
to
get
right
because
the
need
for
affordable
housing
within
the
authority
is
one
of
the
key
policies
that
we're
tackling
so
that
that
deals
with
that
paper,
for
which
the
deadline
is
the
29th
of
october
and
then
there's
the
changes
to
the
current
planning
system,
which
is
dealing
with
delivering
first
homes
and
affordable
housing.
Again.
A
Something
that
I
would
ask
that
you
look
at
working
with
housing.
Colleagues,
it
starts
to
come
into
more
local
plan
type
issues
and
and
clearly
the
proposal
within
today's
executive
member
decision
session
is
that
at
the
end
of
this
information
gathering
within
the
council
with
members
and
officers
that
the
response
to
government
is
submitted
in
consultation
with
myself
and
the
with
council
air
through
his
chairmanship
of
the
working
plan,
local
group,
local
plan
working
group
and
as
executive
member
for
finance
and
performance.
A
A
B
A
The
recommendations
are
on
page
five,
so
item
one.
The
executive
member
refers
to
part
one
of
the
report,
along
with
the
council's
draft
response
to
the
customer
corporate
services
scrutiny
management
committee
for
consideration,
so
there
will
need
to
be
drafting
of
of
the
responses
in
time
for
that
which,
I
believe
is
on
the
16th
of
september.
Yes,
I
appreciate
that
that
doesn't
provide
a
lot
of
time,
but
we've
we've
been
thinking
about
these.
B
A
So
that
is
important
that
that's
brought
back
and
includes
the
views
of
a
wide
range
of
teams
within
the
council,
but
also
councillors,
who
are
not
on
semc,
who
will
have
their
own
opinions,
and
I
shall
be
encouraging
them
to
either
submit
to
yourself
or
those
comments
to
me
to
make
sure
that
they're
included
in
the
process
and
that
recommendation.
Three
that
I
note
part
two
of
the
report
confirm
the
council's.
A
There
seems
to
be
an
apostrophe
yes
appearing
out
of
nowhere.
To
give
significant
weight
to
the
ministerial
statement
has
limited
alternatives
to
the
process
that
had
been
taken.
However,
that
updates
will
be
provided
as
a
my
additional
wording
today.
Is
that
updates
are
provided
to
counselors
and
included
on
the
planning
portal,
as
information.