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From YouTube: Decision Session - Executive Member for Environment and Climate Change, 12 August 2020
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AGENDA
1. Declarations of Interest 00:00:56
2. Minutes 00:01:11
3. Public Participation 00:01:27
4. York February Flood Review 00:01:32
5. Germany Beck Flood Scheme Update 00:30:50
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A
Hello
and
welcome
to
the
first
virtual
decision
session
for
the
executive
member
for
environment
and
climate
change.
We've
got
three
people
with
us
today
and
we'll
go
through
the
agenda.
There
are
two
main
items
to
discuss
which
are
the
york
february
flood
review
and
the
germany
beck
flood
update.
B
A
Many
thanks:
okay,
well,
we'll
have
a
look
through
the
agenda.
First
point
is:
are
there
any
declarations
of
interest?
Could
you
shake
your
heads
so
that
I
can
so
that
it's
then
recorded?
Thank
you
ever
so
much.
I
know
it's
a
unusual
set
of
circumstances
that
we're
all
still
getting
used
to
we've
got
the
minutes
from
page
one
to
eight
within
our
packs.
A
Any
comments,
any
corrections,
or
can
we
just
pass
the
minutes
is
that
okay
put
your
hand
up
if
it's
fine,
perfect
great
okay,
we
have
no
public
participation
for
this
meeting,
so
we
can
then
go
straight
on
to
the
york
february.
Flood
review.
B
Thank
you
councillor.
This
is
the
report
into
the
february
flood
of
this
year.
This
was
due
to
go
to
an
earlier
decision
session,
but
the
response
to
to
coronaviruses
obviously
delayed
a
whole
range
of
meetings.
So
it's
it's
great
that
we
can
start
the
first
of
these
virtual
meetings
by
picking
this
paper
back
up.
B
I
am
just
gonna
have
to
look
to
the
edge
of
my
screen
from
time
to
time,
just
to
look
at
the
report
on
my
other
screen,
but
I'll
take
the
report
as
read
and
I'll
I'll
really
just
give
a
really
quick
run
through
this.
So
the
report
details
the
footing
of
february
2020.
It
was
the
the
wettest
february
on
records.
There
were
four
main
storm
events
that
hit
us
during
that
period:
storms,
cara
dennis
jorge,
and
then
there
was
a
fourth
of
name
storm
and
the
environment
agency
identified
that
across
the
country.
B
So
not
just
here
locally.
They
had
the
most
number
of
concurrent
flood
warnings
and
flood
alerts
in
force
at
any
one
time
and
clearly
for
ourselves.
It
was
a
significant
response
that
was
required,
but
also
from
the
environment,
yorkshire,
water
and
other
partners.
It's
really
good
news
story.
This
paper,
first
and
foremost
over
a
thousand
properties,
1056
properties
or
there
are
thereabouts,
were
actually
defended
from
flooding.
B
But
for
ourselves
we
operate
a
number
of
temporary
flood
defense
measures
across
the
city.
Most
notably,
I
think
people
will
recognize
the
works
that
we
do
at
cleveland,
thorpe
and
there's
a
big
sandbag
wall
structure
that
we
build
across
conform
streets,
but
also
on
packet
street
and
tower
gardens
again.
Temporary
flood
defense
measures
going
there,
but
then
also
in
bishop
thought
as
well
to
prevent
flooding
from
chantry
lane
and
coming
up
into
bishop
thought
main
streets.
B
Those
measures
were
all
put
in
place
in
advance
of
the
first
of
the
storms
and
they
remained
in
place
throughout
the
the
length
of
the
event
and
essentially,
the
riverside
footpaths
across
the
city
were
were
unusable
by
by
residents
and
tourists
and
others
during
that
time,
and
because
of
the
the
fluctuating
river
levels
that
were
in
excess
of
the
river
banks
pretty
much
throughout
the
february
period.
And
we
were
under
flood
warning
and
flood
alert
status.
B
Pretty
much
for
four
weeks
through
february
and
into
the
very
early
part
of
march
and
the
report
details
how
we
work
together
as
partners
and
how
we
received
information
and
the
various
things
that
we
put
in
place
and
the
measures
that
we
carried
out
and
just
really
I'd
like
to
say
recognizing.
The
amount
of
work
that
was
put
in
by
our
own
highways
teams.
And
they
were
working
around
the
clock
to
putting
these
measures
in
and
to
maintain
them.
But
also
we
have
to
remember.
B
B
So
it
really
is
a
good
news
story,
but
there's
a
number
of
recommendations
that
were
taken
from
the
flood.
You
know
it's
a
continual
learning
process
and
it's
really
important.
We
continue
to
look
at
this
and
there
are
a
number
of
recommendations
made
in
paragraph
seven
of
the
reports,
which
I
think
is
probably
worth
as
dwelling
on
and
and
considering
those
and
so
there's
there's
a
measure
so
number
one.
B
There's
emergency
response
procedures
and
the
co-location
of
internal
offices
worked
well,
but
we
should
link
and
review
how
that
works
with
other
groups.
There's
a
there's,
a
group
called
the
york
flood
group,
which
is
important
local
group
and
how
we
service
that
group
and
how
we
keep
that
involved
in
the
process.
B
Our
emergency
response
procedures,
further
awareness
sessions
for
key
duty
officers.
B
The
early
deployment
of
temporary
measures
was
a
really
good
piece
of
work
for
us
and
I
think,
as
an
authority,
we
need
to
consider
that
thinking,
thinking,
big
and
acting
early
type
messaging,
that
I
know
other
partners,
certainly
environment
agency,
that
utilize
manchester
and
that
worked
really
well.
But
it
can
only
truly
work
if
we
embed
it
across
all
parts
of
the
authority.
B
The
flood
resilience
measures
in
fulford
were
killed
under
scrutiny.
We've
just
carried
out
works
to
the
a19,
which
was
part
of
the
the
works.
That's
happening
with
the
development
site
there,
the
german
event,
development
site
and
those
were
those
flood
resilience.
Works
worked
well
and
the
a19
would
have
been
flooded
on
three
separate
occasions
in
february.
Had
those
measures
not
been
in
place
but
there's
a
further
impact
on
that
community
and
the
smaller
highway
that
goes
into
the
community
fordlands
road
still
flooded.
B
It's
not
been
affected
by
the
the
development
scheme
in
any
way.
So
there's
no
work
to
be
carried
out
to
that
at
present,
and
there
was
also
flooding
avoided,
luckily
through
active
intervention
by
ourselves,
but
also
yorkshire,
water
to
the
fordham's
crescent
community,
which
is
fed
by
that
road.
We
do
have
plans
in
place
to
actually
bring
forward
a
scheme
which
we're
starting
the
appraisal
process
of,
and
the
next
paper
obviously
goes
into
that
further
and
there's
recommendation
to
support
that
sandbags
were
deployed
in
accordance
with
risk.
B
We
communicated
that
during
the
events-
and
we
got
that
message
out
as
far
and
as
wide
as
possible,
but
it's
important
that
we
in
peace
time
we
deploy
those
messages
to
those
communities
that
would
likely
request
sandbags.
So
they
can
understand
better
when
we
deploy
sandbags
and
why
we
deploy
sandbags
and
what
triggers
us
to
take
them
to
various
locations.
So,
there's
a
recommendation
around
that
forecasts.
B
B
I
think
we
all
know
that,
and
until
you
get
nearer
to
the
time
of
the
rivers
responding
from
the
rainfall
falling
on
the
upper
parts
of
the
catchment,
the
swale,
the
euro
and
the
nether,
which
feed
into
the
river
who's
upstream
of
york
and
the
forecasted
levels
can
sometimes
come
down.
But
we
had
to
act
early,
especially
around
those
temporary
defense
measures
that
we
put
in
place,
certainly
for
storm.
B
To
understand
that
there
was
a
risk
that
we
could
see
flooding
in
those
locations,
the
actual
events
and
the
actual
levels
that
we
saw
from
the
event
were
less
than
the
level
of
those
temporary
defenses.
So
in
the
end
you
know
those
those
warnings
you
know
didn't
come
to
pass.
Those
forecasted
levels
did
not
endanger
the
community,
but
it
was
wholly
right
of
us
to
act
on
those.
B
There's
an
example
of
that
in
annex
one
of
the
report
that
we'll
talk
to
our
communications
team
and
see
about
how
we
can
put
that
out
with
the
messages
to
try
to
clarify
how
we
are
acting
on
forecasts
and
what
that
means.
B
Number
seven
there
in
the
recommendations
about
the
single
version
of
the
truth,
which
I
touched
earlier
on.
It
was
an
extremely
useful
piece
of
work
for
us
and
I
think,
we'll
be
learning
from
the
current
coronavirus
response,
and
I
know
my
emergency
panning
colleagues
certainly
are
finding
some
of
these
same
themes
coming
from
the
work
that
they're
doing
currently
across
the
pandemic
response,
and
that
single
version
of
the
truth
works.
Well,
so
that's
something
that
we
will
look
to
put
in
place
next
time,
but
we
can
also
pre-populate
quite
a
lot
of
it.
B
B
There's
one
in
there
about
the
environment,
agent-led
schemes
and
saying
how
important
it
is
that
we
continue
to
all
commit
to
those
schemes
and
under
annex
two
of
this
report.
Ben
hughes
from
the
environment
agency,
has
supplied
what
is
a
quarterly
update
into
the
progress
of
those
schemes
and
counselor.
If
you
want
to
bring
benny
after
this
to
discuss
in
any
any
way
he's
available
to
do
so.
B
We
did
receive
quite
a
lot
of
contact
from
from
residents
and
others
about
how
signage
could
be
clarified
across
the
city
to
ensure
that
people
understand
how
their
routes
to
and
from
work
and
other
places
could
be
affected
by
rising
foot
levels.
So
I
think
that's
given
us
some
important
learning
points
to
feed
into
that
project
and
that's
what
that
recommendation
is
about
and
then
the
final
one
recommendation
10
is
about
council
teams
and
partners
and
affected
businesses.
B
So
our
partners
in
in
the
council,
who
who
face
businesses
all
across
the
city
centre,
began
a
piece
of
work
to
actually
better
understand
the
impacts
of
flooding
on
those
businesses.
B
I
think
that's
something
that
we
need
to
keep
up
after
further
flood
events
as
well,
so
I
think
to
to
finish
and
open
up
for
any
comments
or
discussion.
I'd
just
like
to
reinforce
the
need
that
this
was,
in
my
opinion,
really
well
really
well
managed
and
and
and
and
delivered,
set
off
measures
and
emerging
responses
across
the
city,
and
it
really
heightened
the
need
for
us
to
keep
up
the
momentum
in
how
we
do
this
into
future
flood
events
and
continue
to
work
really
closely
with
all
of
our
partners.
A
Steve
milly,
thanks
for
that,
and
I
absolutely
agree
it
was
a
fabulous
piece
of
work
given
where
the
forecasts
were
given
what
the
weather,
you
wouldn't
believe
it
on
a
day
like
today
what
the
weather
was
doing
storm
after
storm
after
storm,
given
how
everybody
pulled
together
from
the
highways
team
through
to
the
environment
agency
and
everybody
in
between
it's
a
fabulous
piece
of
work
and
it
protected
over
a
thousand
homes.
So
really
well
done.
A
A
I
think
you
alluded
to
that
in
the
fact
that
you're
talking
with
the
communications
team,
but
at
times
there
was
a
bit
of
a
disparity
between
the
environment
agency
and
ourselves
and
how
we
both
made
that
work
a
bit
smoother.
So
it's
good
to
see
the
comms
in
here,
and
I
know
that
we
can
do
that
even
better
because
it
was
good
but
even
better
than
it
was
before.
A
A
A
A
So
I
just
wonder-
and
I
this
is
a
complete
like
wandering
through
my
head
wednesday
afternoon-
thought-
would
it
be
helpful
if
we
asked
comms
during
october-ish
time
for
those
areas
that
are
affected
to
actually
put
out
a
specific
piece
of
comms
to
do
with
flooding?
A
B
Yeah
I'll
take
that
last
one
first,
for
the
last
few
years,
we
have
put
out
a
piece
in
october
time,
as
you
say,
which
has
been
a
a
winter
preparedness
piece.
So
it's
covered
off
a
number
of
different
aspects,
partly
informing
people
about
the
winter
treatments,
the
gritting,
etc,
etc,
but
also
a
piece
around
how
we're
ready
for
winter,
how
we've
carried
out
maintenance
of
all
of
the
pumps
that
we
use.
B
You
know
the
grit
stocks
that
we
have
for
gritting
and
the
sand
stocks
and
the
sandbags
that
we,
the
number
of
sandbags,
that
we
have
etcetera
and
really
just
to
assure
our
residents
that
we
are
ready
for
all
eventualities.
B
I
have
not
spoke
to
cons
whether
or
not
that's
still
planner
of
james
can
comment
on
that.
But
it's
been
a
it's
been
a
successful
thing
in
recent
years.
We've
done
also
some
pieces
where
we've
illustrated
some
some
some
side
parts
of
that
as
well.
So
that
would
be
a
good
opportunity
to
further
sell
those
messages
around
sandbags
and
I'd
be
keen
to
do
that
again.
A
B
Do
that
and
then
the
other
piece,
I'm
forecasting
it's
in
all
my
professional
career,
and
I
think
ben
would
say
the
same.
You
know
that
the
idea
of
crying
wolf
is
a
is
a
difficult
one
to
to
to
really
to
square
off.
I
mean
the
environment
agencies.
Flood
warnings
are
designed
that
when
they
are
issued,
flooding
is
expected.
You
know,
and
you
know,
those
foot
warning
areas
and
the
the
triggers
that
drive
those
wood
warnings.
B
I've
had
a
lot
of
work
where
they've
been
developed
to.
Actually
you
know
where
they
don't
go
out.
You
know
with
the
smallest
amount
of
rainfall
and
that
you
don't
worry
people
and
julie.
We've
got
a
slightly
different
thing
here
in
that
that
we've
still
got
temporary
measures
in
places
in
some
locations,
so
clement
thought.
For
example,
you
know
the
defenses
that
their
work
as
well
as
they
can
do
or
temporary
measures.
B
The
work
of
the
environment
agencies
are
progressing
from
this
autumn
in
clementhop,
so
now
planning
permissions
in
place
and
just
currently
working
through
some
of
the
some
of
the
conditions
that
are
attached
to
that.
But
once
that
works
completed,
you
know
that
will
remove
one
of
those
temporary
defense
locations
with
a
formal
defense
in
place.
B
We
will
be
looking
at
the
measures
across
in
packet
street
in
that
area
as
well,
but
also
bishop
thought
is
another
one
which
is
currently
just
coming
through
to
a
planning,
determination
and
again
that
will
remove
that
temporary
defense
measures
and
needs,
and
I
think,
as
we
work
through
the
the
environment
agency
agency-led
program
of
of
formal
flight
defenses,
it
will
remove
the
need
for
us
to
to
really
interact
with
some
of
these
areas
that
are
less
protective
than
others.
Shall
we
say
the
ones
that
still
rely
on
temporary
defenses.
B
So
the
forecasts
will
give
us
more
of
a
leeway
to
actually
have
reliance
on
the
former
flood
defenses,
as
we
did
with
all
the
others
in
february,
1050
plus
properties
that
were
benefits
that
benefited
from
that.
But
I
think
I
know
that
they,
I
always
look
at
the
forecast
in
every
flood
event.
There's
been
a
forecasting
review
of
what
happened
in
february.
B
There
was
snow
melts
and
we
had
multiple
storms
off
the
back
of
each
other,
and
you
know
it's
something
that
we'll
keep
an
eye
on
in
future
fun
events
and
make
sure
that
the
forecasts
are
giving
us
what
we
need
them
to
give
us.
D
So
can
I
just
steve,
I
think,
you've
made
some
great
points
there.
I
think
the
the
trick
is
around
the
flood,
the
public
understanding
around
the
flood
warnings
and
the
forecasts
that
are
now
publicized
or
published
on
the
web.
So
we
have
a
we
obviously
issue
for
the
warnings
when
we
have
when
we
analyze
the
data
and
we've
we've
gone
through
it,
and
we
understand
what
it
means
we
also
on
dot.
Gov
at
uk
published
the.
If
you
like,
the
raw
data
around
the
forecast.
D
Now,
obviously
those
two
can
be
dramatically
different
and
it's
at
the
moment,
the
environment,
environment,
we're
trialling
it
on
a
number
of
gauges
around
the
country
to
give
people
more
information,
and
I
just
wonder
whether,
if
you
are
putting
a
publication
out
this
autumn
into
your,
is
it
a
case
that
we
need
to
make
get
information
clear
that
you
know
we
want
people
to
act
when
they
hear
a
flood
warning,
not
necessarily
to
the
forecast
that
they
may
see
on
the
on
the
internet
and
distinguish
it
two
apart
from
each
other?
D
Maybe
because
my
fear
is
that
the
say
the
forecast
often
can
over
predict
or
over
you
know,
as
we
saw
with
the
the
5.2
in
february
and
whilst
we
build
defenses
that
would
defend
against
very
high
levels,
there
may
be
future
forecasts
that
may
actually
show
that
over
top
those
levels,
even
though
we
actually
know-
as
I
suppose,
engineers
and
and
experts
in
subject
that
it
won't
actually
happen,
but
the
date
the
raw
data
is
out
there.
D
I
suppose
it's
how
I
think
we,
as
a
team
partnership,
manage
that
raw
data.
That's
out
there
about
how
people
understand
and
use
it
later.
A
C
Sorry
I
was
trying
to
use
the
magic
spacebar,
but
it
didn't
work.
So
I
think
I
suppose,
whilst
there
was
a
difference
between
the
raw
data
and
the
predictions
we
were
getting,
the
differences
were
actually
quite
small,
but
I
think
it's
the
confusion
that
causes,
so
I
think
some
narrative
around
why
there
are
those
differences
is
is
needed
and
I
think
you
can
wrap
that
up
into
the
comms
going
forward
so
that
we've
got
an
agreed
line
with
the
environment
agency.
C
That
might
explain
those
differences
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
we'll
ever
get
to
the
bottom
of
the
fact
that
you've
got
a
set
of
data
and
then
someone
interpreting
it
because
that's
that's
the
way
science
works.
We're
seeing
that
now
about
other
things.
Aren't
we
so
I
don't
think
we'll
ever
get
away
from
that,
but
I
think
we
we
can
improve
by
having
a
clearer
messaging
around
it.
B
And
I
think
I
think
council
just
just
just
finally
on
that.
Maybe
I
think
what
we've
got
on
the
riveroos
is:
we've
got
an
area
that
floods
several
times
a
year
may
not
have
a
huge
consequence
each
time,
because
a
lot
of
the
properties
that
front
onto
the
river
have
a
of
a
good
knowledge
of
what
flood
levels
mean
for
them.
B
So
you
know
often
you've
got
people,
and
I
know
from
talking
to
them
myself,
who
look
at
the
environment
agency
river
gauges
on
the
river
swale
at
craig
hill
or
at
burra
bridge
on
the
river
euro
and
they'll
know
that
if
there's
a
level
of
x
in
each
of
those
locations
that
that
will
mean
a
level
of
y
for
them
in
eight
hours
time,
ten
hours
time.
So
we've
got
a
you
know.
B
You
know
that
I'm
sure
I
know
there
are
many
residents
in
the
calder
valley
and
other
places
across
yorkshire
that
that
equally
look
at
what
their
river
is
doing
in
the
same
way,
I
think
the
important
thing
for
ben
and
I
is
to
ensure
that
we
get
them
the
best
information
and
the
most
information
you
know
they
might
you
know
those
sorts
of
residents
might
want
a
different
product
than
others.
I
think
we've
just
got
to
work
out.
B
A
A
Thank
you
ever
so
much
for
that
report,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
wish
to
go
through
annex
ii
ben,
but
I
am
delighted
to
see
that
we
were
moving
along
with
all
the
various
different
flooding
planning,
all
the
different
cells
that
are
happening
through
there,
the
faster
we
can
do
that,
the
more
that
we
can
make
them.
I
think
the
word
steve
was
formal,
the
more
that
we
can
make
it
formal
flood
protection
and
the
more
we
can
protect
our
residents
and
our
businesses
and
keep
ourselves
open
for
tourists
the
better.
D
Okay,
thank
you
just
a
couple
of
amendments
because
this
report
was
done
probably
about
over
two
months
ago
now,
when
it
was
originally
written,
so
we
had
in
for
lender
bridge
on
b4
that
it
was
likely
to
be
fitted
in
september
the
new,
the
new
gate.
We
have
been
looking
at
how
to
build
it
and
how
to
construct
it
in
the
best
form
gate.
D
D
Closure
now,
obviously
again
that
in
parallel
with
clement
thought
being
being
closed,
could
cause
further
disruption.
So
I.
C
D
What
would
be
useful
is
is
understanding
from
city
of
york.
Point
of
view
is,
should
we
be
looking
to
run
those
in
at
the
same
time,
or
should
we
be
looking
at
different
methods?
You
know
a
delay
one
for
the
other
one
or
you
know
again.
I
suppose
that
advice
around
how
we
move
that
forward
would
be
useful
over
the
coming
sort
of
coming
weeks
or
so.
A
Is
there
any
way
of
getting
the
the
gate
in
place
before
the
winter
before
we
actually
get
all
the
rain
before
everything
happens,.
D
Yeah
we
were
looking
at
it.
We
struggled
to
get
all
the
information
we
needed
and
all
the
approvals
in
place
to
get
the
the
closure
of
the
road
for
for
that
period,
so
we're
fortunate
to
delay
it
to
next
spring.
D
D
D
We're
looking
at
we're
looking
at
next
spring
to
be
finished,
probably
early
june,
maybe
june
time
finished.
A
B
On
the
top
again
yeah,
just
a
couple
of
things
on
that
counsellor,
but
yes,
certainly
take
off
and
all
the
right
people
are
in
the
room
talking
about
this
now
I
know
that
there's
been
a
couple
of
meetings
in
the
last
few
weeks.
The
relevant
people
from
our
network
management
team,
our
structural
engineering
side
and
the
design
conservation
site
are
all
meeting
with
the
project
team
on
this.
So
you
know
they
are
moving
things
forward
in
in
that
regard,
and
I
understand
your
frustration
and
comments
regarding
the
delay
in
the
timing
counselor.
B
However,
you
know
the
the
gate
that
is
there
now
is
is
of
a
good
defense
standard
already.
You
know
this
is
really
you
know.
This
is
finalize
that
part
of
the
yacht
foot
scheme
into
you
know
future
climate
change
type
scenarios,
it's
not
significantly
low
and
can
defend
against.
You
know
some
some
some
large
flood
events
between
now
and
when
the
new
case
is
installed.
A
A
B
We've
already
touched
on
this
slightly
in
the
previous
item,
so
the
area
of
of
germany
back
so
in
fulford,
the
the
the
flows
from
germany
back
so
germany
back
is
a
tributary
of
the
rivers
when
the
river
oozes
in
flood
conditions,
germany,
beck
can't
flow
effectively
into
the
use
and
flood
levels
are
raised
on
germany
beck,
which
then
has
previously
flew
the
a19,
which
is
a
a
major
arterial
route
into
and
out
of
the
city.
B
Obviously,
but
it
also
floods,
fordlands
roads
as
a
as
I
touched
on
earlier,
which
is
an
access
road
into
the
fordham's
community.
But
there
is
also
a
smaller
tributary
of
true
of
german
event
called
tunnel
drain,
which
again
it
suffers
from
high
river
levels.
When
germany
beck
is
prohibited
from
flowing
effectively
in
and
there
is
the
risk
of
flooding
in
an
area
of
of
the
community
of
portland's
presence
in
year,
2000,
2012
and
also
in
in
boxing
day
2016.
B
There
were.
There
were
issues
in
that
location
and
we've
avoided
flowing
certainly
to
people
and
property.
On
a
number
of
occasions
in
the
fordham's
crescent
community,
the
existing
approach
to
actually
manage
people
getting
through
into
the
community
from
the
fordham's
road
area
is
to
provide
4x4
access,
which
we
do
have
procedures
in
place
and
they
were
implemented
again
in
february
this
year.
B
Clearly,
that
means
that
residents
can't
get
their
vehicles
in
and
out
of
of
that,
that
community,
but
does
allow
them
to
be
able
to
get
physically
out
from
their
homes
and-
and
you
know,
access
other
parts
of
the
city.
Clearly,
that's
not
ideal.
The
a19
works
have
now
been
completed.
You
know,
in
partnership
with
the
developers
of
the
germany
beck
developments
and
we
avoided
flooding.
B
As
I
touched
on
early
on
three
occasions
in
february
2020.,
and
we
through
work
from
the
local
ward
councillor,
we
identified
funding
for
similar
works
to
the
a19
on
fordlands
road
just
over
a
year
ago,
and
we
do
have
funding
in
city
of
york
council
to
take
forward
works
that
are
of
a
similar
nature.
Flood
walls
alongside
fordham's
roads,
stop
germany
back
flooding
the
carriageway,
but
through
the
development
of
the
wider
environment
agency
scheme.
B
We've
looked
at
all
of
those
different
risks
in
that
location,
the
a19
flood
risk,
the
fallen's
road
being
blocked
and
the
risk
from
that
and
also
people,
and
that
that
could
continue
to
be
affected
into
the
long
term,
and
certainly
that
will
be
something
that
will
be
exacerbated
with
the
impacts
of
climate
change.
B
So
we
started
to
develop
a
holistic
scheme,
which
is
one
where
we
could
manage
all
of
those
risks
with
one
single
point
of
intervention,
so
the
a19
works
would
remain,
but
we
would
make
them
more
resilient.
B
We
would
bolster
up
the
the
works
to
the
river
side
of
the
a19
and
if
we
were
to
provide
a
pumping
station
either
on
the
west
side
of
the
a19,
the
river
side
of
the
a19
or
the
east
side
of
the
year
19,
it
could
block
up
the
a19
bridge
to
prevent
the
river
rooms
flowing
back
into
the
germany
back.
B
It
would
then
need
to
pump
the
flows
that
come
down
germany
back
in
tunnel
drain
to
prevent
flooding
of
fordlands
road,
but
also
the
community
there,
the
fordlands
crescent
community,
it's
a
very
similar
sort
of
approach
to
what
happens
elsewhere.
The
the
frost
barrier,
for
example,
is
a
similar
sort
of
scheme.
B
It's
a
completely
different
scale
of
engineering,
of
course,
but
what
the
fuss
barrier
does
it
stops
the
rivers
flowing
back
up
the
river
foss
and
flooding
properties
around
the
frost
basin
and
further
upstream,
towards
huntington
road
by
dropping
in
the
big
gates
on
the
river
on
the
frost
barrier
and
then
pumping
the
floors
from
the
real
fast
forward
into
the
use.
This
is
a
much
much
smaller,
but
essentially
a
similar
piece
of
engineering,
so
we've
utilized
the
environment
agency
works
at
present
and
and
consultants
working
on
that.
B
That
scheme
have
looked
at
those
sort
of
holistic
options,
and
we've
now
come
to
an
appraisal
report
stage
where
we
we
believe
that
we,
this
is
a
feasible
scheme
in
terms
of
deliverability
in
terms
of
impact.
Clearly,
we'd
need
to
manage
that
impact,
whether
it's
you
know
how
it
looks
and
feels
and
the
construction
phase
impacts,
etc,
as
the
scheme
would
develop.
B
But
at
this
higher
level,
the
strategic
level
it's
deliverable,
it
delivers
the
sort
of
outcomes
that
we
need
to
see
to
target
funding
from
various
sources
and
and
will
deliver
that
long-term
protection
to
all
those
aspects
that
I've
just
gone
through.
So
we
got
to
a
stage
now
where
we've
identified
that
there's
potentially
a
scheme
that
would
cost
in
the
region
of
4.9
million
pounds.
B
Now
at
this
level
of
appraisal,
we
have
to
put
in
place
contingency
for
all
of
the
unknowns
that
are
out
there
at
this
moment.
In
time.
We
don't
know
what
the
ground
conditions
will
be
in
detail
at
this
stage.
We
don't
know
what
we
would
need
to
manage
the
scheme
for
any
environmental
impacts
or
any
planning
led
requirements
in
detail
again,
and
you
put
a
percentage
uplift
on
those
costs
to
deliver
that
contingency.
B
So
we
could
see
that
whole
life
cost
come
down
and
that
whole
life
cost
also
includes
the
maintenance
of
the
scheme
through
to
the
end
of
its
life.
So,
although
it's
a
significant
amount
of
money,
we
believe
that
this
is
a
deliverable
scheme.
B
We
currently
have
in
the
region
of
six
hundred
thousand
pounds
available
off
city
of
york,
council
funding,
which
is
a
combination
of
the
funding
that
was
targeted
towards
the
fordlands
roadworks
that
I
touched
on
earlier,
but
also
some
of
the
money
that's
available
from
the
from
the
planning
obligations
that
came
from
the
persimmons
homes
developments.
B
We
could
also
apply
for
what
is
called
flood
defense
granting
aid,
which
is
funding
directly
from
defra
for
for
applicable
flood
schemes
and
there's
around
300
000
pounds
potentially
available
from
that
pot
of
money.
B
So
clearly,
we've
still
got
a
funding
gap.
There,
we've
got
just
over
a
million
pounds
potentially
available
via
that
route
and
we've
also
identified
previously
within
city
of
york.
Council,
a
contingency
pot
of
money
to
assist
in
the
delivery
of
wider
benefits
from
the
environment,
age,
select,
program
of
works,
there's.
B
Pounds
available
in
that
pot
of
money,
500
000
pounds
in
last
year's
budget,
500
000
pounds
in
this
year's
budget
and
there'll
be
a
further
500
000
pounds
in
next
year's
budget
and
there's
a
possibility
here
that
we
could
target
some
of
that
funding
towards
this
scheme
as
well,
and
then,
on
top
of
that
and
and
ben
might
comment
on
this
further
in
a
moment,
the
environment
agency
have
also
got
what's
a
pot
of
money.
That's
not
directly
linked
to
the
that
that
flood
defense
granting
aid
program
of
works.
B
We
have
to
show
benefit,
cost
and
applicability
of
the
funding.
It
still
has
to
be
a
feasible
scheme.
It
still
has
to
have
a
benefit
cost.
That's
that's
above
one,
so
you
know
it's
a
good
usage
of
money,
but
we
might
be
able
to
target
some
funding
from
that
that
possibly,
which
is
often
referred
to
as
booster
funding.
B
As
we
understand
those
risks
better
and
we
believe
that
there's
a
potential
scheme
here,
but
it's
still
a
risk
that
we've
not
at
this
moment
in
time,
but
the
whole
funding
required
to
deliver
this
so
we're
at
a
stage
now
where
we
believe
that
we
could
take
this
forward
to
the
full
and
detailed
appraisal
and
actually
get
it
to
a
stage
where
all
the
relevant
permissions
are
in
place.
So
that's
planning
approval.
B
All
other
relevant
environmental
permissions
are
in
place,
so
the
next
stage
after
that
would
be
the
very
detailed
design
and
the
delivery
of
the
actual
works
on
the
ground
and
we're
currently
working
with
the
consultants
that
have
been
on
this
so
far
to
actually
identify
what
those
costs
would
be
and
there's
a
recommendation
that
would
consider
using
some
of
the
existing
funding
to
actually
take
the
scheme
through
that
next
appraisal
stage.
B
So
I
don't
have
a
ban
once
about
anything
on
the
environment
agency
side
of
funding
on
this,
but
essentially
that's
what
we're
bringing
through
in
this
this
paper
today
counselor
is,
is
an
update
of
where
we
are
that
we
believe
the
holistic
scheme
is
the
scheme
here
for
this
location
and
that,
if
we
can
take
this
forward
to
the
next
stage
start
to
pull
in
some
of
that
wide
funding.
We
believe
that
there's
a
there's
a
really
effective
scheme
here
that
again,
the
impacts
of
february
2020
showed.
B
That
is
something
that
the
community
really
would
like
to
see
in
place
and
that
we
believe
is,
you
know
an
essential
piece
of
work
to
take
forward
ben.
D
B
D
Covered
that
very
well
steve,
as
always,
I
think
when
we
look
at
funding
and
certainly
something
that
we
we
do
is
if
we
get
to
a
position
where
it's
almost
ready
to
go,
and
then
there
are
funding
sources
like
that
at
the
load,
the
local
enterprise
partnership
that
potentially
would
have
money
available
at
certain
points
where
they're
looking
for
schemes
that
support
or
support
their
outcomes,
but
essentially
you're
ready
to
go
so
yeah.
D
I
would
certainly
support
your
your
suggestion
in
taking
as
far
forward
as
you
can,
with
the
assumption
that
you
know
when
that
money
becomes
available,
then
you
can
sort
of
actually
deliver
the
scheme
itself.
A
I
think
you've
painted
a
very
compelling
picture.
We
know
that
the
residents
need
it.
We
know
that
it's
costing
us
well
certainly
cost
us
a
lot
of
time.
Money
and
resources
this
year
were
james's
team
on
the
highway.
We
deployed
to
do
exactly
what
you're
saying
happened,
what
you're
looking
to
build
in
the
future.
A
A
A
I'm
just
reading
a
note
that
I've
been
sent.
Gentlemen,
okay,
so
yes,
I
formally
agree
with
the
recommendations
that
are
at
the
end
of
I
do
this
every
time,
I'm
sorry
and
normally
shirley
slaps.
My
wrist,
I
formally
agree
with
the
recommendations
on
0.7
page
32
to
take
this
forward
and
in
in
the
way
that
you
have
described
in
the
paper.
A
Is
that
clear,
perfect
I've
got
a
thumbs
up?
Okay,
so
thank
you
ever
so
much
for
that
and
once
again,
steve
and
ben.
I
am
delighted
with
the
work
that
you
that
you
are
carrying
out
within
our
city
and
the
amount
of
residents
and
businesses
that
you're
keeping
safe
and
we'll
make
safer,
and
one
of
the
things
we
never
talk
about
is
all
the
extra
work
that
the
ea
do
on
top
of
it.
A
So
for
every
tree
that
disappears,
you
put
five
in
and
all
the
work
that
you're
helping
us
with
in
the
biodiversity
so
delighted
with
how
we're
working
as
a
team.
Let's
keep
that
going
and
let's
see
if
we
can
make
it
even
stronger
now.
The
last
item
on
the
agenda
is
urgent
business.
I
don't
have
any.
Oh
sorry,
louise,
hey
hi.
Sorry
can
I
just
confirm
that
you
definitely
do
also
agree
the
recommendations
on
the
first
report.