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From YouTube: Decision Session - Executive Member for Finance and Performance - Wednesday, 7 October
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AGENDA
1. Declarations of Interest 00:00:22
2. Minutes 00:00:27
3. Public Participation 00:00:39
4. Covid-19: Local Restrictions Support Grant 00:00:44
5. Covid-19: Self- Isolation Financial Support 00:07:46
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A
Okay,
welcome
to
this
remote
meeting
at
the
decision
session
of
the
executive
member
for
finance
and
performance
on
wednesday,
the
7th
of
october
women
today
with
two
council
officers,
council
pauline
sutchfield
and
they
walk,
who
will
introduce
themselves
on
the
necessary
items,
though
I
understand
polly
is
suffering
from
slight
chest
infection,
so
maybe
slightly
quieter
than
usual
item.
One
on
the
agenda
is
declarations
of
interest.
I
have
no
declarations
of
interest
item.
Two
is
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
held
on
the
24th
of
september.
A
I'm
happy
to
accept
those
as
a
correct
record
and
we'll
sign
those
when
I'm
able
to
when
I
enter
into
west
offices
item
three
is
public
participation.
We
have
no
members
of
the
public
registered
to
speak
today.
So
I've
gone
to
the
first
item
substantive
item
on
agenda,
which
is
item
four
covered
19
local
restriction,
support,
grant
and
I'll
hand
over
to
david.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
councillor.
I'm
david
walker,
head
of
customer
x,
checker
services,
so
this
paper
presents
to
the
executive
man
for
a
decision.
The
council's
local
restriction
support
granting
scheme
and
the
executive
manager
has
to
know
the
details
of
the
government
scheme,
approve
the
council
scheme
and
discretionary
scheme
attached
to
annex
a
and
approve
the
value
of
the
discretionary
payments
grant.
B
In
terms
of
the
the
prescribed
element
of
the
scheme
around
relatable
value,
the
government
have
set
two
levels:
1
500
pounds
for
the
full
three-week
period
for
a
business
which
is
having
to
close
with
a
ratable
value
of
51,
000,
pound
and
above
and
a
payment
of
1000
pounds
for
three
weeks
for
any
business
that
has
a
rate
of
value
below
51
000.
So,
unlike
the
previous
grand
schemes,
there
are
no
caps
around
rotable
values.
B
Every
business
that
can
prove
they're,
affected
and
customer
facing
can
make
a
claim
on
this
scheme
in
terms
of
the
suggestionary
scheme,
we're
suggesting
rather
like
the
government
that
we
keep
this
relatively
strimple
and
safe
forward
to
administer
and
any
grant
that
we
make
for
the
three
week
period
for
businesses,
micro
businesses,
who
are
customer
facing
and
have
to
close
during
the
three
week
period.
We
make
a
payment
of
750
pounds
for
the
three
week
period.
B
B
The
the
payments
are
paid
directly
to
the
council
tax
payer,
sorry,
the
sort
of
business
rates
payer
and
there
will
be
an
application
process.
Businesses
have
to
apply
and
confirming
writing
and,
as
with
previous
grants
that
we
issued,
there
will
be
fraud
checks.
So
again,
we
need
to
use
a
spotlight
scheme
when
making
payments,
and
that,
in
summary,
is
is,
is
the
scheme.
A
Thank
you,
dairy
tas
answered
one
of
my
questions
already.
Then
you
don't
know
what
the
five
percent
yeah
not
this
one.
No
I'm
sorry
having
read
the
report,
did
you
write
in
saying
that
places
with
multiple
hereditaries
is
the
word
that
I've
now
learned
this
year?
I
never
said
arousal
for
one
per
establishment,
rather
than
one
per
business
on.
B
B
I
believe
it's
a
capped
figure
that
this
scheme
came
out
really
really
quickly.
All
we
know
is
that
the
government
are
calculating
based
on
the
council
for
the
business
rate
base
that
we
have,
which
is
comes
through
the
valuation
office
agency.
How
many
businesses
may
be
eligible
for
the
1
000
and
1
500
pound?
They
will
give
us
that
sum,
and
we
will
get
five
percent
of
that
sum.
B
I
think
I
think
we
would
be
able
to
challenge
that
if
we
felt
that
they'd
miscalculated
it,
but
I
wouldn't
expect
the
variation,
because
I
know
exactly
how
many
businesses
on
our
list
to
be
huge,
because
they're
not
guessing
at
what
those
businesses
are
rather
like
the
retail
hospitality
and
leisure
that
we're
guessing
this
time.
They
actually
know
how
many
businesses
are
on
there.
So
I
suspect
the
figure
is
probably
pretty
much
final.
A
B
A
B
The
discretionary
scheme
really
is
is
for
us
to
decide.
So
if
we
wish
to
create
more
flexibility
in
there,
yes,
we
could
the
clearly
the
cap,
the
restriction
that
we
have
is
that
they
won't
give
us
any
more
money.
So
whatever
we
choose
to
do,
may
cost
the
authority,
as
opposed
to
central
government.
A
I
think
on
this
one
I'll
go
to
the
later
ones.
This
seems
to
be
more
of
a
risk
of
clawback
in
terms
of
the
second
scheme
on
here,
but
that's
I'll.
Take
that
as
part
of
the
next
agenda
item.
Okay,
okay,
general
comments
are
just
to
commend
the
team
in
terms
of
the
speed
with
which
it's
turned
around.
It's
not
ideal
to
have
a
scheme
announced
that
starts
before
the
scheme's
even
been
announced
and
criteria
that
have
have
started
before
the
schemes
announced.
A
I
suppose
less
of
an
issue
with
this
one
at
the
point
that
we're
not
in
a
situation
of
lockdown
as
yet.
So
we
do
have
the
opportunity
in
terms
of
of
getting
the
scheme
in
place,
let's
say
with
the
second
one
coming
on
there's
an
obviously
that
we've
got
significant
amounts
of
people
who
are
eligible
for
the
scheme
before
even
being
announced
and
and
fully
put
through
the
criteria.
So
I
think
with
that
one,
the
only
thing
I'm
looking
at
is.
A
I
can't
actually
see
a
recommendations
paragraph
I
have
something
in
terms
of
paragraph
2
yet
so
note
the
yeah,
not
the
details
of
the
scheme,
improve
the
discretion
screen
and
approve
the
value
so
yeah,
I'm
happy
with
that
to
to
approve
the
recommendations
in
paragraph
2.,
okay.
So
as
I'm
alluding
to,
then
we
can
go
on
to
the
the
next
item
on
the
gender,
which
is
item
five,
which
is
the
stop
isolation.
Financial
support
scheme.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
So
this
is
the
the
self-isolation
grant
scheme
and
this
is
to
provide
financial
support
to
vulnerable
financial
customers
who
are
put
into
isolation
through
the
current
processes,
around
testing
or
being
told
they've
come
into
contact
with
somebody,
who's
tested
positive
for
kovid19.
B
Yes,
this
scheme
again
announced
on
the
20th
of
september
and
went
actually
live
on
the
28th
of
september,
in
terms
of
when
customers
became
eligible,
to
claim
the
schemes
based
very
much
around
and
trying
to
provide
financial
support
for
people
who
have
to
self-isolate
who
are
on
low
income,
and
also
that
includes
people
who
are
self-employed
as
well
as
people
who
are
in
normal
employment.
It's
a
means-tested
scheme
to
the
extent
that
you
have
to
be
receiving
one
of
the
the
benefits
set
out
and
the
final
point
of
paragraph
five.
B
So
that's
universal
credit,
working
tax
credit,
income-based
employment,
support
allowance,
income
based
job
seekers,
allowance
income,
support,
housing,
benefit,
pension
credit,
the
schemes
devised
really
to
be
a
an
online
scheme.
So
we
we
are
working
on
putting
live,
hopefully
by
friday,
an
online
application
for
customers,
there's
already
information
upon
the
website
for
customers.
If
they
want
information
around
the
scheme,
but
for
customers
who
can't
then
we
can
complete
the
forms
for
them
if
they
phone
in,
they
will
still
need
to
provide
supporting
documentation.
B
Again,
we
need
to
understand
who
will
come
forward,
but
despite
that,
the
government
have
capped
the
the
money
available
for
the
element
of
the
scheme.
So
and
that's
that's
capped
through
to
the
end
of
the
scheme,
which
is
supposed
to
be
the
31st
of
january
2021
at
this
point,
and
that
provides
the
authority
with
about
39.8
000
pound,
which
is
enough
for
79
payments.
B
Since
the
the
scheme
went
live
on
the
28th
we've
received
34
applications
of
this
morning
for
the
scheme.
Now,
whilst
that
sounds
high
compared
with
the
grant
that
we
have,
as
I
understand
it,
the
app
and
the
nhs
happen.
The
information
that's
been
given
out
is
telling
customers
that
they
may
be
eligible,
but
it's
not
explaining
that
you're
locked
down
grant
me
you
may
be
eligible
for
is
means
tested.
B
So
this
is
again
it's
a
scheme
to
the
31st
of
january
next
year.
We
we
don't
know
again
if
we
spend
the
66
000
pound
on
the
core
part
of
the
scheme,
whether
or
not
we
can
go
back
and
ask
for
additional
funding.
Now
I've
I've
tried
to
pursue
this,
and
I
know
other
authorities
have
asked
the
same
question.
B
So
whilst
we
won't
get
any
more
for
the
discretion
report,
will
they
pay
us
more
than
66
000
if
we
have
to
pay
more
than
132
customers,
so
we're
still
trying
to
to
find
out
whether
that
will
will
not
be
the
case
again?
I
suspect
a
lot
of
that
will
depend
on
the
volume
of
claims
that
come
in
nationally.
B
A
I
think
this
was
the
one
that
probably
caused
me
a
little
bit
more
concern
in
terms
of
that,
because
the
it
just
seemed
from
reading
the
paper
that
it's
government
discretion
whether
they
pay
back.
What
was
on
the
what
we've
included
in
the
discretionary.
So
I
assume
that
what
you've
done
is
to
align
the
discretionary
scheme
as
closely
as
possible,
so
the
government
wouldn't
say
no
we're
not
paying.
That
particular
claim.
B
That's
right,
I
mean
we,
we
we
as
well
it's
interesting,
because
the
answer
to
both
of
these
schemes
that
I've
been
presenting
is
that
we,
as
with
previous
schemes,
we
we
get
audited
and
we're
fully
audited
on
what
we
spend
and
therefore
the
government
can
see
how
we're
paying
the
one
element
on
this
scheme.
That's
of
interest.
B
Is
that
they're
not
interested
in
seeing
what
we
spend
on
the
discretionary
scheme,
which
would
suggest
to
me
that,
despite
spending
the
fund
relatively
quickly,
if
that
was
the
case,
we
would
not
be
able
to
go
back
and
ask
for
additional
funding.
That's
left
that
responsibility
fairly
quite
firmly
with
local
authorities
to
try
and
ration
that
out
across
the
period
and
if
they
over,
if
they
spend
it
and
wish
to
continue
supporting,
then
they
they
look.
So
they
will
absolutely
not
provide
any
more
money
for
that.
A
B
Yeah,
I
I
think
what
we,
what
we've
tried
to
think
through
is
which
customers
who
are
not
on
welfare
benefits
might
suffer
as
a
result
of
this
and
might
be
in
financial
difficulty
and
come
forward
to
make
a
claim
and
because
you
know,
people
who
are
in
full-time
employment,
who's
paid
full
pay
during
isolation
would
not.
But
I
guess
it
there
will
be
things
that
come
out
that
we're
not
expecting,
and
one
area
that
I
think
might
might
make
way
may
rise
again
is
self-employed.
B
So,
while
they're
in
the
core
scheme
they're
running
the
course
game
to
the
extent
that
they
are
receiving
benefits,
but
you
may
find
there
are
a
self-employed
scheme
with
people
within
the
city
who
find
that
not
being
able
to
work
for
two
weeks
but
not
being
on
benefits
is,
is
a
financial
stress
to
them.
But
of
course
you
know
as
a
business
that
can
also
apply
for
the
the
the
the
the
lockdown
grants
to
you.
They
can
apply
for
both,
but
it
can
only
apply
for
lockdown
grants
during
lockdown.
B
A
B
A
B
B
If
we
had
a
customer
who
really
really
couldn't
and
had
no
access
to
digital
or
any
other
means,
and
they
would
have
to
bring
those
that
documentation
to
us
with
no
choice
or
or
we
could
potentially
let
the
local
area
coordinators
or
the
hubs
confirm
that
as
well.
So
we
we
could
take
that
route
to
to
to
resolving
that
issue.
A
That's
what
I
was
going
to
suggest
dave
as
you
got
there
at
the
end,
if
we
can,
if
we
can
work
with
that,
so
either
yeah
and
be
able
to
be
able
to
do
that,
accepting
or
even
to
be
able
to
sort
of
handheld
people
through
using
the
explore
centers
if
we
can
actually
get
people
into
the
explore
centers
and
get
them
applying
online
and
through
there.
That
might
actually
get
us
through
through
some
of
that.
A
So
I,
my
plea:
was
you
to
to
connect
with
those
local
areas
not
to
try
and
do
that,
and
the
last
thing
was
just
probably
just
a
request
to
to
keep
you
updated
on
the
progress
with
the
discretionary
scheme
and
what
what
types
of
people
are
starting
to
apply
and
what
gaps
it
might
be
to
keep
us
in
the
loop
of
what's
happening
on
that.
One.
A
So
with
that
one,
I
got
three
recommendations
to
a
b
and
c
on
page
35..
I
think
I'm
happy
to
prove
those,
as
is
I'll,
say,
there's
not
an
awful
lot
of
discretion
in
discretionary
schemes
as
we
go
forward.
I
think
it
is
concerning
the
amount
of
money
that's
been
made
available.
I
think
we'll
have
to
keep
keep
a
close
eye
on
it.
A
I
know
there
was
speakers
executive
last
week
that
were
talking
about
people
who
would
be
potentially
vulnerable
from
self-isolating
who
aren't
covered
in
this
scheme
and
I
think,
with
79
payments
to
a
population
of
200
000
people
is
somewhat
of
a
concern,
but
I
think,
as
long
as
we
keep
an
eye
on
that
and
do
what
we
can
in
terms
of
lobbying
government
to
make
sure
we
have
that
available.
So
I
think
with
that
happy
to
approve
the
recommendations
of
paragraph
2
on
page
35.