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AGENDA
1. Declarations of Interest 00:00:15
2. Public Participation 00:00:26
3. Lockdown and Tier 3 – Additional Restrictions Grant (ARG) 00:07:13
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A
Okay,
welcome
to
this
remote
meeting
of
the
decision
session
of
the
executive
member
for
finance
and
performance
on
thursday,
the
12th
of
november.
This
meeting
is
being
held
in
consultation
with
my
colleague,
councillor
andrew
waller,
who
is
the
executive
member
for
economy
and
strategic
planning.
I
will
start
with
item
one
on
the
agenda.
Declarations
of
interests
I
do
not
have
any
declarations.
Does
counselor
waller.
A
Which
brings
us
to
item
two
on
agenda,
which
is
public
participation.
We
have
two
members
of
the
public
registered
to
speak
today.
You
will
have
roughly
three
minutes
I'll
have
a
certain
amount
of
leeways.
We
have
one
gender
item
and
two
speakers.
A
C
C
It
is
great
to
see
in
point
22
that
all
businesses
that
have
premises
in
york
would
now
be
eligible,
as
this
would
cover
the
many
local
traders
who
trade
in
york
but
do
not
live
in
york.
We
assume
that
this
would
also
cover
those
who
fail
to
get
financial
support
through
the
seifs
scheme,
though
this
seems
not
to
be
specified
and
so
we'd
like
to
urge
that
this
should
be
both
included
and
clearly
expressed
in
any
future
wording.
C
C
So
we
would
strongly
suggest
that
local
business
groups
should
be
consulted
to
gauge
whether
additional
support
could
be
crucial
in
this
instance.
Also,
once
again,
we
would
like
to
offer
our
help
and
support
to
cyc,
as
they
work
to
identify
all
york-based
businesses
who
would
qualify
for
grants
under
the
arg
proposals,
and
we
are
grateful
for
the
efforts
made
by
cyc
to
track
down
unlocked
cases
where
local
businesses
were
not
able
to
claim
micro
grants.
C
A
D
Address,
thank
you.
I'd
just
like
to
echo
everything
that
my
good
colleague
martin
has
just
said.
The
self-employed
market
traders
we're
facing
a
crisis.
We
rely
on
these
months
now,
where
traditionally
we
do
make
a
surplus.
It's
now
gone,
and
I
wonder,
as
we
all
do,
how
many
will
survive.
D
We
urgently
need
help
in
terms
of
things
like
buying
stock
pain,
rents,
feeding,
our
families,
I
mean
traditionally
january
january
and
february,
would
be
the
leaning
ones
that
they
would
see
anything
upwards
of
50
60
drop
in
sales,
which
is
which
is
natural,
but
the
the
reality
is
that
market
traders
do
make
their
surplus
now
and
that
could
be
personally
speaking,
anything
up
to
like
maybe
30
40
more
than
what
I
would
normally
take
in
say
an
august
month,
and
then
that
would
take
us
through
the
leaner
times.
D
D
D
If
we
could
return
to
that,
surely
that
would
help
in
terms
of
the
high
street
too.
Surely
a
flourishing
market
and
a
lively
high
street
go
hand
in
hand,
and
so
I
would
hope
that
we
are
included
in
the
kind
of
bigger
picture
as
it
were,
that
we're
not
treated
as
a
separate
entity,
but
but
we
are
in
the
same
dilemma
as
to
what
mr
sturdy
referred
to
yesterday.
We
don't
want
to
be
forced
to
sign
on,
but
what
other
choice
is
there?
D
If
we
can't
be
helped
I'll
just
say
we're,
not
a
separate
entity,
we're
part
of
the
workforce,
we
help
drive
the
city,
we
contribute
to
the
local
economy.
I
mean
there
were
countless.
There
were
countless
traders
who,
who
don't
use
outward
town
outlets.
That
would
rather
go
to
such
wonderful
establishments
as
barnets
and
go
in
to
buy.
One
item
then
come
out
with
three
items:
that's
the
nature
of
what
we
are
in
terms
of
the
city
centre.
We
we,
we
do,
invest
our
hard
earned
money
back
into
the
local
economy.
D
We
don't
like
asking
for
help.
We
are
proud,
but
in
times
of
desperation,
sometimes
we
do
like
everybody
else
in
the
country.
We
need
extra
help
too.
As
I
said
before,
we
don't
like.
We
don't
want
to
be
treated
as
a
as
a
separate
entity.
We
are
all
in
it
together
and
hopefully
we
as
martin
said
we
cannot
hopefully
dig
ourselves
out
in
conjunction
with
the
rest
of
the
workforce
in
york.
D
Any
financial
assistance
that
you
could
give
the
market
traders
of
york
would
go
a
long
long
way
and
they'll
be
totally
totally
appreciative
of
it.
Thank
you
very
much
for
listening.
A
E
A
F
Thank
you
very
much
indeed
councillor
and
and
thank
you
for
the
contributions
from
those
who've
spoken
at
the
beginning
of
this
meeting
as
well.
The
paper
you
have
in
front
of
you
sets
out
the
additional
restrictions
grant
funding
which
has
been
allocated
to
york
a
total
of
four
point:
two
one,
two,
three,
six,
zero
million
pounds
worked
out
on
the
basis
of
twenty
pounds
per
head.
F
This,
if
anyone
is
wondering
where
it
came
from,
is
the
money
that,
for
instance,
mayor
burnham
in
manchester,
was
discussing
with
boris
johnson
as
they
went
into
tier
three.
It's
our
equivalent
of
that
funding.
The
money
is
to
last
us
right
through
to
the
end
of
the
pandemic,
which
of
course,
at
this
stage
we
is
unclear
when
it
will
be
and
all
needs
to
be
spent
by
the
end
of
next
financial
year,
which
perhaps
give
a
bit
of
insight
into
thinking
behind
this
in
government.
F
So
we
need
to
be
very
mindful
of
that,
as
we
begin
to
think
how
that
money
might
be
distributed,
we're
in
a
strong
position
in
york
in
terms
of
of
getting
grant
money
out.
That's
been
provided
by
government
earlier
in
this
year.
My
colleague
david
walker
and
team,
and
myself
delivered
over
a
100
million
pounds
of
support
to
businesses.
While
there
was
some
concern
in
york
early
on
that,
actually
we
were
behind
the
curve.
F
It
quickly
became
clear
that
actually,
europe
was
very
much
at
the
top
of
the
league
table
in
terms
of
getting
that
money
out
quickly
and
getting
it
out
to
as
many
businesses
as
possible,
and
that
principle
continues
to
underpin
our
approach
to
thinking
about
arg
and
indeed
the
other
mandatory
grants
which
are
outside
of
the
scope
of
this
paper,
but
will
actually
help
many
more
businesses
in
york,
through
the
local
restrictions
grant
closed
and
and
such
like,
but
to
focus
on
the
4.2
million
that
we
are
considering
this
morning.
F
We
need
to
be
mindful
of
the
advice
from
government
in
terms
of
who
they
would
like
it
to
help
the
restrictions
at
the
moment
as
we're
in
this
current
lockdown
are
not
the
same
as
the
restrictions
right
at
the
beginning
of
lockdown.
Back
in
march.
F
There
are
a
whole
series
of
businesses
which
are
continuing
to
be
open,
which
in
march,
felt
that
they
had
to
close,
and
we
need
to
remember
that,
but
the
table
paragraph
15,
tries
to
show
those
categories
of
business
which
have
been
told
by
government
that
they
must
shut.
Those
are
those
marked
in
red
in
that
table.
F
Under
the
lockdown
column
and
you'll
see
it
goes
from
non-essential
retail
hospitality
venues
right
through
to
places
of
worship
covering
in
between
personal
care
and
also
personal
care
offered
in
individuals
homes,
and
this
offers
again
a
clue
to
what
the
government
is
hoping.
This
money
will
support.
F
What
they've
said
is
that
they
hope
that
it
will
support
businesses
which,
while
not
legally
forced
to
close,
I'm
nonetheless
severely
impacted
by
the
restrictions
such
as
the
supply
chain
for
retail
hospitality
in
leisure
and
businesses
in
the
events
sector,
and
also
businesses
outside
of
the
scope
of
the
business
rate
system
which
which
are
forced
to
close,
and
that
means
businesses
which
are
trading
in
those
sectors
marked
in
red
in
that
table,
but
not
doing
so
from
from
premises
where
they
pay
the
rate
rates
themselves
or
perhaps
where
rates
are
attracted.
F
So
again
that
gives
us
some
some
pointers
in
terms
of
where
we
need
to
focus
the
money.
F
Our
experience
earlier
in
the
year
in
terms
of
our
micro
grant
scheme
gave
us
a
lot
of
insight
into
some
of
those
businesses
that
were
outside
the
scope,
for
instance,
of
that
self-employment
income
support
scheme
in
in
terms
of
the
self-employed
and
also
other
businesses
which
weren't
covered
by
the
rates
related
grants.
Earlier
on.
F
We
are
able
to
see,
for
instance,
that
around
250
businesses
in
personal
care
sector
applied
to
us
for
grants
are
at
this
stage
and
we're
able
to
use
those
numbers
to
begin
to
forecast
what
we
might
need
to
be
doing
at
this
stage.
F
Now.
The
current
lockdown
is
for
one
month
but
as
I've
said,
the
money
actually
is
potentially
to
last
us
for
18
months
and
indeed
for
any
future
lockdown.
So
we
need
to
be
mindful
that
we
may
need
to
repeat
this
exercise,
we're
going
through
in
november,
perhaps
on
as
many
as
two
further
occasions
and
we've
we've
we've
factored
that
into
our
thoughts
around
the
scale
of
grants.
F
So
the
scope
we
are
suggesting
is
for
let's
begin
with
those
businesses
that
aren't
forced
to
close,
but
are
in
rateable
premises
under
instant
the
supply
gender
businesses,
which
have
to
close
so,
for
instance,
fish
members
and
green
roses
that
provide
that
supply
predominantly
to
hospitality,
businesses
that
are
now
shut.
What
we're
going
to
offer
them
if
they
can
demonstrate
that
three
quarters
of
their
businesses
normally
in
the
supply
chain
and
that
they're
in
the
right
premises.
F
They
would
get
the
same
grants
that
are
about
to
be
delivered
in
terms
of
the
local
restrictions
grant
closed.
That's
to
say
for
businesses
with
a
rateable
value
of
15
000
a
year
or
under
grants
at
667
pounds
per
two
weeks
for
those
between
15
and
51
000
relatable
value,
a
thousand
pounds
for
every
two
weeks
and
for
those
with
a
ratable
value
over
51
000.
F
Outside
of
the
ratings
system,
we're
proposing
two
levels
of
payment
for
businesses
that
can
show
that
they
are
in
the
sectors
that
have
been
forced
to
close
and
are
unable
to
trade,
or
indeed,
who
can
show
that
their
trade
is
being
severely
restricted
by
other
businesses
that
are
shut,
we're
offering
for
those
in
that
have
got
fixed
premises
costs,
although
clearly
that
they
won't
be
the
rate
payers,
they
will
be
paying
rent
and
they'll
have
permanent
premises
that
attract
per
costs.
F
We
are
proposing
the
the
lower
of
those
three
rates,
the
lowest
of
those
three
rates
in
terms
of
the
close
grant,
so
that
would
be
that
660
pounds
per
two
weeks
or
1334
pounds
per
28-day
qualifying
restriction
period.
F
As,
as
we've
said
in
the
paper,
this
is
adopting
the
language
that
the
government
have
put
into
their
advice
and
for
those
that
don't
have
fixed
term,
fixed
premises,
costs
and-
and
you
know,
for
instance,
the
market
traders
we've
heard
earlier
on
this
might
affect
some
of
them
would
would
attract
a
payment
of
500
pounds
per
28
day
qualifying
period.
F
It
it
it's
impossible
to
know
actually
at
this
stage
exactly
how
much
that
might
result
in
in
terms
of
claims.
So
we
can
use
what
we
learned
earlier
on
in
the
year
to
give
us
some
indication
and-
and
our
best
estimate
is,
that
would
result
in
about
a
million
pounds
of
expenditure
on
a
grant
scheme
as
as
outlined
there
within
a
28-day
period.
F
So
that
would
allow
us
to
I'll
be
able
to
offer
those
grants,
perhaps
on
three
for
three
months
or
on
three
different
occasions
and
would
ensure
that
if
we
go
down
into
lockdown
again
in
the
new
year,
we
are
not
going
to
be
in
the
position
where
we're
unable
to
offer
anybody
any
assistance,
because
all
the
money
has
gone,
we
may
emerge
from
lockdown
into
tier
three.
F
I
don't
think
there's
much
indication
of
that
in
terms
of
our
public
health
numbers
at
the
moment,
but
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
that,
because
this
grant
money
would
also
need
to
cover
those
conditions
and
my
estimate
for
how
many
businesses
might
be
within
scope,
as
I've
said,
is
125,
and
that's
the
figure
that-
and
one
of
the
speakers
alluded
to
earlier
on.
That
would
be
essentially
for
business
in
tier
three.
It's
accommodation,
leisure
and
entertainment.
Venues
that
have
to
shut
non-essential.
F
Retail
is
allowed
to
continue,
as
indeed
our
personal
care
and
such
like.
So
that's
why
the
scope
is
less
and
that's
why
I've
suggested
that
might
be
fewer
businesses
eligible.
F
But,
of
course,
we
would
commit
to
paying
all
of
those
who
can
make
a
strong
case
that
they
are
covered
by,
although
they
are
seriously
impacted
by
tier
three,
and
we
we
very
much
hope
that
it's
not
a
situation
that
york
is
ever
going
to
be
in
so
in
terms
of
the
grants
and
we're
suggesting
that
three
and
a
half
million
of
the
funding
might
be
allocated
as
as
laid
out
in
a
paragraph
26
beyond
direct
grants
of
of
money
to
businesses.
F
Although
it
is
early
thoughts,
ones
that
have
been
shared
with
our
colleagues
in
the
business
networks
and
to
which
they've
responded
well
to
but
early
thoughts
in
terms
of
how
we
might
establish
what
was
described
as
a
venture
scheme
to
provide
advice
and
support
to
help
businesses
think
about
how
they
might
re-emerge
into
a
trade
in
york
and
indeed,
how
what
they
might
need
to
do
to
think
about.
F
Perhaps
how
they
strengthen
their
online
offer
or
find
other
ways
to
reach
new
clients
and
markets,
supporting
that
kind
of
innovation
and
in
a
way
which
potentially
enables
york
businesses
to
be
the
businesses
that
are
supporting
all
the
other
york.
Businesses
in
that,
I
think,
is
a
very
a
key
principle
in
terms
of
how
we
try
to
do
local
economic
development
in
new
york,
a
maximize
the
benefits
of
such
grand
schemes.
F
So
we
are
asking
for
support
in
developing
a
more
detailed
version
of
that
scheme
and
bringing
that
back
to
a
future
decision
session.
We're
also
able
to
to
spend
money
in
less
direct
ways
and
the
work
we
did
over
the
summer
in
terms
of
supporting
reopening
thinking
about,
for
instance,
events
and
how
we
encourage
people
into
the
city
centre,
will
surely
be
a
key
a
priority
in
the
future.
F
As
well
and
again,
the
money
that
we
have
in
terms
of
the
additional
restrictions
grant
is
the
only
money
that
we're
going
to
receive
from
government.
So
we
are
suggesting
that
we
keep
a
modest
amount
of
that
back,
200
000,
to
support
where
we
need
to
get
to.
In
terms
of
final
reopening
that
that
notional
budget
allocation,
a
paragraph
26
will
of
course
need
to
be
reviewed
in
the
light.
F
First
of
all,
in
terms
of
how
many
applications
we
actually
get
over
the
next
month
to
arg
and
with
about
one
million
pounds
estimate
how
accurate
that
is,
and
also
in
terms
of
the
the
emerging
public
health
situation
on
on
the
kobe
pandemic.
For
instance,
recent
news
around
vaccines
and
a
lot
of
hope
around
there.
I'm
not
that
mean
we'll
see
how
that
actually
develops
in
months
ahead
and
in
keeping
some
of
the
a
lot.
You
know
a
significant
proportion
of
that
money
back.
F
We
will
retain
flexibility
to
develop
as
that
situation
progresses,
and
we
propose
to
bring
back
further
reports
to
to
your
decision
sessions
and
those
of
the
executive
member
for
economy
and
strategic
planning
to
reconsider
us
as
the
situation
progresses,
but
adopting
the
principles
that
we
allowed
set
out
earlier
on
in
the
report.
F
A
a
a
paragraph
14
to
provide
support
to
as
many
local
businesses
as
are
eligible
and
respond
flexibly
to
changing
circumstances,
make
sure
that
we
are
truly
benefiting
the
local
economy
and
that
what
we're
doing
has
got
the
very
very
much
got
the
broad
support
of
business
communities,
which
I'm
pleased
to
be
able
to
report
back.
What
we
set
out
in
the
paper
to
you
today.
Very
much
does
have
that
support.
E
F
I
hope
that
sets
out
what
we
are
proposing
to
you
and-
and
we
have
made
recommendations
there
in
terms
of
what
you
might
ask
the
chief
operating
officer
to
implement
as
an
emergency
decision
in
terms
of
setting
up
the
grants
we've
put
before
you
asking
me
to
go
away
and
come
back
with
more
detail
around
how
voucher
scheme
might
work,
I'm
thinking
about
how
we
might
allocate
that
200
000
budget
for
events,
as
well
as
reviewing
the
process
and
allocations
as
we
get
further
information
by
running
the
scheme.
B
Thank
you,
chair
I'd
like
to
thank
officers
for
preparing
this
report.
I
think
it's
important
to
have
visibility
appreciate
that
time
is
of
the
essence,
and
other
councils
haven't
done
this
and
I
think
it's
testament
to
the
work
that's
been
put
in
to
inform
and
engage
with
businesses
to
ensure
that
the
maximum
effective
use
of
limited
resources
provided
by
government
can
be
fully
utilized.
B
We
have
been
making
the
case
to
government
for
companies
that
missed
out
in
previous
grants,
and
I'm
grateful
for
the
work
that
officers
put
in
to
gathering
information
from
companies
so
that
we
could
put
that
together
in
lobbying
letters
director,
ministers
and
also
through
the
local
government
association.
B
I
think
the
real
time
experience
of
the
impact
of
tier
2
was
an
example
of
where
it
was
helpful
to
have
good
lines
of
communication
with
business.
Is
that
even
though
they
weren't
required
to
close
the
chilling
effect
on
footfall
of
being
designated
in
tier
two
had
a
very
clear
impact
on
the
viability
of
businesses.
B
There
have
been
some
changes.
Government
has
listened
so
the
51
000,
pound,
ratable
value
barrier
to
support
has
gone,
and
that's
something
that
we
did
argue
as
a
council
on
behalf
of
local
businesses.
For
that
to
happen.
Also
the
supply
chain
that
there
were
many
companies
not
included
in
previous
government
schemes,
the
way
that
they
were
drawn
up,
accepting
that
some
things
were
done
very
rapidly,
but
nevertheless
they
were
suffering
loss
of
trade
but
were
cut
out
of
previous
schemes.
B
So
that's
as
a
consequence
of
lobbying
by
city,
your
council
and
others
in
making
that
case,
and
there
are
other
anomalies
that
were
ironed
out.
I
take
on
board
the
comments
from
the
two
speakers
that,
as
with
other
businesses,
having
the
these
four
weeks
in
the
run-up
to
christmas,
cut
out
of
their
trading
is
a
significant
and
is
more
than
one
month's
worth
of
of
profit
to
keep
the
businesses
going
during
the
the
lean
time.
B
So
we
recognize
that
and
there
would
be
an
impact
if
we
did
emerge
into
tier
three
that
the
way
the
rules
are
written
there
would
be
limited
support
to
businesses.
So
it's
far
more
important
that
we
come
out
in
a
much
lower
tier
to
ensure
the
the
viability
and
in
the
run
up
to
christmas,
the
money.
B
It
is
interesting
that
they
are
looking
longer
term
to
the
18
months.
So
therefore,
there's
a
more
recovery
phase
aspect
of
this,
but
it's
important
to
keep
businesses
viable
in
the
meantime
and
so
the
the
real-time
provision
of
information
and
factual,
transparent
and
informative
detail
that
we
can
use
with
partners
to
to
lobby
for
support
and
to
guide
delivery
of
limited
resources
and
policies.
B
I
think
that's
really
important
and
I
think
it's
it's
been
important
to
work
with
partners,
simon
mentioned
in
the
fsb,
mecca
york,
the
bid
institute
of
directors
and
chamber
of
commerce,
and
there
has
been
real
collaboration
in
gathering
the
information
and
making
sure
that
we're
making
best
use
of
what
is
a
finite
pot.
B
The
previous
schemes
have
been
fully
distributed
and
it's
testament
testimony
to
the
staff
and
their
diligence
in
making
sure
that
was
done,
recognizing
that
all
of
this
is
audited
and
therefore
there
has
to
be
checks
and
balances
put
in
place.
But
I
accept
the
way
in
which
staff
have
gone
above
and
beyond
in
order
to
make
sure
that
there
was
a
prompt
payment
to
businesses
that
really
needed
it.
B
I
think
looking
slightly
longer
term,
we
we
don't
know
what
christmas
will
bring.
The
evidence
coming
across
the
pond
is
that,
with
the
canadian
thanksgiving
being
in
october,
there
was
a
an
uptick
following
that.
So
I
think
it
is.
It
is
beholden
upon
us
all
to
continue
to
do
what
we
can
to
minimize
the
spread
of
kovid
in
anticipation
of
a
hopeful
rollout
of
vaccine,
but
we
don't
know
precisely
when
that
will
occur
and
therefore
it
is
important
that
we
don't
let
our
guard
down
the
funding.
B
That's
been
allocated
well
that
will
be
allocated
by
officer
decision
detailed
in
paragraph
26,
it's
worth
bearing
in
mind
this
is
across
all
sectors,
so
there
will
be
many
businesses
out
there
who
will
be
relying
on
this
as
a
means
of
supporting
them.
So
it's
across
all
sectors.
B
E
I
think
we've
covered
the
subject
matter
of
this
report
quite
comprehensively
in
in
those
those
comments.
I
think
just
one
thing
to
add
is
that
before
we
went
into
tier
two
lockdown,
we
had
allocated
a
hundred
thousand
pounds
as
a
tourism
marketing
budget
to
try
and
drive
football
back
into
the
city.
E
We
obviously
put
put
our
foot
on
the
ball
on
that
spend
as
we
went
into
increased
restrictions,
but
as
we
start
to
prepare
for
coming
out
of
this
lockdown
and
with
the
obvious
caveat
that
we
don't
know
what
we
will
emerge
into,
we
are
continuing
to
look
at
how
we
encourage
residents
to
use
their
local
shops
and
eateries
and
how
we
like
then
try
and
drive
increased
footfall.
As
we
start
to
emerge
from
from
this
wave.
E
We
are
trying
to
do
that
in
a
fairly
managed
way,
so
that
we
are
not
encouraging
excessive
use
of
the
city
which
might
then
in
fact,
impact
on
infection
rates.
But
it
is
really
important
to
try
and
certainly
with
our
own
york
residents,
to
try
and
get
them
to
use
their
local
shops
to
use
the
independence
and
and
and
spend
the
york
pound
in
york.
So
we
continue
to
look
at
ways
in
which
we'll
use
that
marketing
spend
to
do
that.
A
A
I
think,
if
we're
honest,
we
have
to
acknowledge.
We
probably
won't
get
100
right
straight
away
with
the
time
frames
that
we've
got,
and
I
think
one
of
the
benefits
we
have
is
the
huge
amount
of
expertise
that
we've
got
on
the
connections
that
we've
got
across
the
city,
and
I
think
we
were
one
of
the
leading
local
authorities
in
the
country
in
terms
of
recognizing
from
march
the
gaps
that
were
there
in
the
system
and
those
businesses
that
were
falling
through.
A
So
I
think,
with
that
point,
I'm
happy
to
agree
the
recommendations
at
paragraph
three
at
the
bottom
of
pages,
one
and
page
two
with
council
wallows
in
agreement
in
the
agreement.
I
think
to
note
so
that
we're
recommending
that,
due
to
the
urgency,
this,
the
chief
operating
officer,
will
take
the
decisions
as
outlined
in
this
report.