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AGENDA
1. Declarations of Interest 00:00:23
2. Minutes 00:01:25
3. Public Participation 00:01:38
4. Scarborough Bridge to Bootham Park Cycle Route Improvements 00:30:35
5. TSAR Traffic Signal Refurbishment - Wigginton Road / Crichton Avenue YK2221 01:12:17
6. Economy and Place Transport Capital Programme - 2020/21 Monitor 1 01:23:30
7. Greendykes Lake - Proposed Puffin Pedestrian Crossing 01:30:21
8. York Road, Haxby - Proposed Zebra Crossing 01:40:16
For full agenda, attendance details and supporting documents visit:
https://democracy.york.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=738&MId=12409
A
Good
good
morning,
everyone,
it
is
tuesday,
the
3rd
of
november
2020.,
I'm
andy
dagon
executive
member
for
transport
and
welcome
to
the
decision
session.
Apologies
for
the
slightly
late
start
for
technical
reasons.
We
have
eight
registered
speakers
this
morning,
which
we'll
come
to
shortly.
First
item
on
the
agenda.
I
have
declarations
of
interest
on
item
four,
which
relates
to
scarborough
bridge
and
booth
park.
A
So
it's
a
joint
funded
highway
scheme.
So
with
that,
I
move
on
then
to
the
minutes.
I'm
happy
to
approve
the
minutes
of
the
20th
of
october
the
decision
session
on
the
20th
of
october
this
year,
and
that
brings
me
to
the
public
participation
item
three
and,
as
I
said,
I've
got
a
number
of
speakers
on
the
different
items.
A
B
The
context
in
this
designated
character
area
is
of
the
grade
two
radians
and
gates
of
boudin
park
and
opposite
the
grade.
2
penthouse,
where
joseph
browntree
was
born
and
lived
for
50
years,
the
junction
of
some
areas
with
bootham
would
be
recognizable
to
him,
with
rainings
gates,
stone,
paving
cobbles,
etc,
as
they
were
in
his
day.
This
is
the
most
important
and
sensitive
location
as
dr
adaman
states.
In
his
response.
B
B
Firstly,
the
new
owner
of
boone
park
enterprise
retirement
living
proposed
that
there
will
be
no
vehicular
access
through
the
boom
gates.
This
is
important
point.
Secondly,
at
present,
when
the
pedestrian
lights
alongside
turn
red,
there
is
a
safe
passage
for
cyclists,
from
summaries
to
and
from
the
park.
If
cyclists
could
trigger
the
lights,
this
would
suffice
if,
coupled
with
the
inboun,
they
propose.
A
B
Traffic
light
on
booth.
Thirdly,
there
is
no
need
for
vehicle
signaling
from
some
berries
with
the
pedestrian
crossing
on
red
and
the
usual
goodwill
of
fellow
drivers.
There's
rarely
a
delay.
A
low
key
solution
to
assist
cyclists
must
be
possible.
A
shared
crossing
time
sees
it
seems
reasonable,
given
the
good
safety
record
of
this
junction.
Fourthly,
a
factual
point:
it
is
that
there's
no
turning
space
in
some
areas
and
refuge
in
large
vehicles
back
into
some
areas,
and
so
the
proposed
loss
of
car
parking
spaces
for
them.
Turning
in
is
unnecessary.
B
In
summary,
tourists
come
to
york
to
see
this
historic
area,
so
not
introducing
dominant
highway
infrastructure
is
important.
Economically.
This
area
botham
retains
its
historic
appearance
because
residents
care
about
it.
This
is
an
objection
and
an
alternative
route
should
be
found,
but,
if
approved,
I
urge
the
council's
engineers
to
liaise
with
the
council's
heritage
professionals
and
the
civic
trust
to
modify
these
first
ideas.
The
scheme
doesn't
do
justice
to
the
city.
A
C
C
C
They
will
permanently
change
and
damage
the
view
and
setting
of
the
building
and
the
blue
plaque
that
it
displays
due
to
the
proposed
location
of
the
traffic
lights,
and
there
is
no
traffic
need
for
a
four-way
set
of
lights.
We've
worked
diligently
to
repair
the
fabric
of
penthouse
and
have
complied
with
many
detailed
planning
restrictions.
C
It's
inconsistent
that,
on
the
one
hand,
significant
requirements
can
be
imposed
at
great
cost
to
practically
invisible
parts
of
the
property,
whilst
at
the
drop
of
a
hat,
the
most
important
element
of
the
property,
the
frontage
can
be
destroyed.
The
portico
of
penthouse
is
of
great
beauty
and
historic
interest
in
relation
to
the
flow
of
traffic.
We
do
not
experience
any
trouble
turning
right
onto
booven
due
to
the
natural
flow
of
traffic.
However,
we
do
believe
that
the
proposed
traffic
lights
will
exacerbate
problems
with
slow
moving
and
stationary
traffic
on
business.
C
C
The
leaves
that
we
received
didn't
contain
any
details
of
the
traffic
lights
to
be
used.
It's
our
view
that
far
more
thought
must
be
given
to
them.
Firstly,
in
relation
to
the
location
of
the
traffic
light
outside
penthouse,
the
post
immediately
outside
penthouse
should
be
moved
back,
ideally
utilizing
the
lamppost
further
down
saint
mary's
and
away
from
the
frontage
of
penthouse,
or
it
should
be
brought
forward
to
the
stop
line
on
st
mary's.
C
Finally,
in
consideration
to
the
types
of
lights
used,
we
expect
they
would
eliminate
light
pollution
and
we
have
concerns
about
noise
pollution
associated
with
any
pedestrian
signal,
as
the
lights
will
be,
underneath
children's
bedrooms,
given
the
historic
significance
of
penthouse,
we're
surprised
that
this
consultation
has
not
extended
us
as
owners.
The
courtesy
of
making
a
specific
approach,
given
the
traffic
lights
will
have
a
significant
impact
on
the
setting
of
this
historic
building.
A
D
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
questions
and
concerns.
I
had
about
safety,
and
I
put
some
notes
together
and
basically
said
that
saint
mary's
is
a
very
busy
road.
It's
used
by
domestic
and
commercial
vehicles
and
deliveries
to
commercial
businesses
are
continuous.
Throughout
the
day.
The
road
is
effectively
one
way
for
vehicles
as
they're
parking
on
one
side.
D
I'm
thinking
the
footpaths
are
not
wide
enough
currently
and
keep
a
two
meter
distance
because
of
covid,
and
a
lot
of
pedestrians
are
also
walking
on
the
road.
In
order
to
keep
that
two
meter
distance
apart,
the
roads
will
continue
to
get
worse
and
I
fear
for
the
safety
of
the
500
cyclists
that
travel
to
and
from
the
boudin
direction.
D
Cyclists
are
not
able
to
cycle
in
a
straight
line
and
they
do
have
to
navigate
around
all
the
uneven
surfaces
as
well
as
the
potholes,
and
also
they
have
to
be
acutely
aware
of
other
vehicles
using
the
road.
The
road
is
progressively
becoming
more
dangerous
for
cyclists
and
pedestrians
and
will
even
be
more
dangerous
in
the
winter
months,
and
even
when
it's
becoming
dark,
saint
mary's
footpaths
and
the
private
section
have
never
been
gritted
during
the
winter
months.
Will
this
be
addressed
if
this
route,
you
are
encouraging?
D
I
would
like
to
highlight
safety
concerns
of
the
uneven
unsafe,
pavement
and
road
on
the
private
road.
I
understand
that
a
short
length
will
be
resurfaced
and,
and
the
footpath
will
also
need
attention
if
this
is
to
be
used
by
pedestrians
and
wheelchair
users,
cars
are
constantly
parked
half
on
half
off
the
pavement.
D
D
Also,
the
waste
management
use
this
area
around
the
top
of
the
step
of
the
proposed
vamp
to
collect,
bins
and
once
empty.
They
are
left
in
the
same
area
due
to
the
dreadful
state
of
the
private
road.
Once
the
council
has
repaired
it.
How
is
this
going
to
be
managed
in
the
future?
Will
the
owner
continue
to
maintain
it,
as
it
has
been
poorly
maintained?
In
the
past,
my
neighbors
and
I
have
occasionally
tried
to
fill
potholes
in
the
overgrowth
just
to
allow
access
onto
saint
mary's
lane.
D
The
mouth
of
saint
mary's
is
not
wide
enough
for
two-way
traffic.
If
a
commercial
vehicle
is
turning
into
saint
mary's
and
a
commercial
bakery
is
trying
to
leave
saint
mary's
because
of
her
no
traffic
lights,
they're
able
to
turn
out
no
problem
without
waiting
for
traffic
lights
to
turn
green.
This
allows
traffic
to
turn
onto
saint
mary's.
D
If
there
are
traffic
lights,
no
vehicle
will
be
able
to
turn
out
to
saint
mary's
without
the
traffic
lights
going
green,
and
this
will
cause
a
backup
and
a
blockage
undo
them
what
happens
to
the
pedestrian
cyclist
if
a
large
vehicle
is
blocking
the
mouth
of
saint
mary's?
Is
this
dangerous
to
them?
Can
they
not
use
the
pedestrian
crossing
to
safely
cross
the
road?
Many
thanks
thank.
A
E
E
E
In
addition,
the
properties
on
boo
them
is
questionable.
Within
some
mary's.
Yes,
you
might
have
dropped
a
leaflets
to
every
property,
but
there
are
numerous
properties
which
are
houses
of
multiple
occupancy.
Therefore,
only
one
person
potentially
saw
that
leaflet
took
a
potential
nine
or
ten
residents
within
most
properties.
Abbott's
mu.
Excuse
me,
abbott's
muse,
which
is
based
at
the
bottom
of
mary's,
has
three
entranceways
housing,
approximately
22
apartments,
I
believe,
and
again
only
one
reference
was
dropped
into
a
single
doorway.
Therefore
missing
a
numerous
residence
within
the
properties.
E
So
what
has
been
stated
is
not
entirely
factual.
Also,
according
to
the
york
government
website
and
the
uk
government
website,
the
processes
were
not
duly
followed
in
that
there
was
no
public
notices
in
the
area
as
they
were.
When
you
did
scarborough
bridge,
there
was
no
public
consultation
or
drop-in
sessions
which
I
can
understand
due
to
covet,
but
there
was
no
opportunity
for
us
to
have
a
look
at
the
detailed
plans
within
the
time
frame
considered.
The
public
notices
were
supposed
to
be
posted
for
at
least
21
days.
E
F
A
G
I
would
yeah
I'm
sure,
but
I
would
like
to
start
off
by
saying
thank
you
to
you
and
a
huge
thank
you
to
sean
harrison
who's
prepared.
This
report-
and
I
was
liaised
with
me
throughout
on
this
and
the
other
officers
involved
and
in
particular
claire
taylor,
our
community
involvement
officer
for
all
her
help.
G
As
mentioned
in
paragraph
six.
Coming
down
from
the
university
is
a
hill
excuse
me,
and
cars
start
to
pick
up
speed
going
up
from
hull
road
cars
block,
diverges,
affecting
visibility,
all
of
which
create
a
dangerous
crossing
point.
The
saint
lawrence's
school
has
made.
Children
has
children
attending
from
newland
park
and
town
hall
areas.
G
G
You
I
and
shown
have
walked
the
area,
and
this
is
the
optimal
place
for
the
crossing
to
be
sighted,
as
the
winter
months
are
coming
and
with
earlier
nightfall.
I
hope
that
we
can
quickly
get
a
crossing
built,
the
residence
halls
are
hold
and
the
children
of
the
area
in
particular
need
it
desperately.
Many
thanks.
G
A
A
H
So
for
the
councillors,
then
just
to
confirm
really
that
we
continue
to
support
the
scheme
as
proposed
in
the
papers
and
option
one
in
the
recommendations
to
approve
that
scheme
and
marie's
statement,
which
I'll
read
out,
surely
makes
it
clear
why
the
crossing
is
needed
so
just
to
say
really
we're
glad
to
see
this
vital
schemes.
Progress
to
this
point
and
hope
it
receives
your
approval
today,
we'd
just
like
as
well.
I
think
to
thank
everybody.
H
H
H
Facebook
page
I
discovered
there'd
been
several
mere
misses
involving
children,
and
also
that
there
was
overwhelming
support
for
the
idea
of
having
a
safe
place
to
cross
along
the
route
over
a
thousand
people
locally
signed
my
petition
within
just
a
matter
of
a
few
weeks.
Such
was
the
level
of
support
locally
everyone.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
contribution.
We
did
have
a
tracy
moran
registered
to
speak
on
item
8
as
well,
but
unless
someone's
going
to
tell
me
otherwise,
I
don't
think
she's
been
able
to
join
us
for
technical
reasons,
but
we'll
ask
the
officers
to
reflect
her
views
which
are
in
the
report.
In
any
case.
A
In
that
case,
I
will
move
on
now
to
item
nine,
which
is
a
registered
speaker
on
the
remit
of
the
committee
in
relation
to
the
foot
streets,
which
should
stress,
is
not
on
the
agenda
for
discussion
today.
I
believe,
is
time,
timetable
to
be
discussed
by
the
executive
on
the
26th
of
november,
but
is
alison
hume.
There.
A
I
I
Your
measures
have
driven
disabled
citizens
away
from
the
city
center
and,
if
you
wanted
us
to
take
our
customer
elsewhere,
you've
completely
succeeded
as
we
head
into
an
imminent
lockdown
shops
and
businesses
that
are
allowed
to
stay
open
in
the
city
centre
will
be
crying
out
for
business.
The
tourists
will
not
be
here.
There
will
be
little
need
for
tables
and
chairs
spilling
onto
pavements
and
roads
with
more
shops
closing
in
york
than
anywhere
else
in
the
entire
country.
Is
it
wise
to
continue
the
discriminatory
street
closures
a
minute
more
than
necessary?
I
Yesterday
I
submitted
my
petition
asking
you
counsellor
to
go
on
to
reopen
the
foot
streets
closed
this
summer,
pending
a
full
equality
impact
assessment.
It's
attracted
nearly
1100
signatures
and
comments
from
many
citizens
detailing
how
their
lives
have
been
blighted
by
the
emergency
measures.
Hurried
in
without
consultation
warning
disability
is
not
an
inconvenience
to
a
political
policy.
It's
a
basic
human
right,
we're
all
equal
and
it's
your
responsibility
to
ensure
disabled
citizens
have
safe
and
reasonable
access
to
our
city
center.
A
K
Yeah
because
I
I'm
lived
in
the
area
for
over
60
years
around
the
crossings
and
it's
always
been
busy
since
the
university
has
been
there's
green
gasoline,
but
it's
become
increasingly
worse.
I
mean
more
high
proportion
of
students
have
cars,
it's
also
being
used
for
for
people
coming
off
the
a19
coming
into
york,
so
it
becomes
quite
a
busy
road
that
yeah.
K
If
you
were
to
take
the
number
of
people
up
at
the
st
up
at
the
university,
you
know
you
can,
when
the
when
all,
if
all
the
students
were
there
at
one
time
and
all
the
staff
and
people
working
there,
it's
more
than
10
percent
of
the
population
of
yorks
in
the
concentrated
area,
with
green
dykes,
land
being
the
most
popular
access
road
up
to
the
university.
So
it
does
make
it
quite
busy
as
to
the
hazard
to
children.
K
Just
to
just
over
two
years
ago,
three
children
were
hit
by
a
car
crossing
that
road
on
the
way
to
saint
lawrence's,
school
and
the
it
is.
It
isn't
just
said,
lawrence's
school
that
uses
it
children
going
to
fisher
gate
and
to
saint
george's
school.
He
crossed
that
road
and
going
the
other
way
to
archbishop
olgate.
So
it's
so.
K
There
are
quite
a
number
of
children
using
that
that
that
junction
at
any
one
time
and
of
course
we
had
the
traffic
survey
18
months
ago-
it
actually
recommended
traffic
lights,
which
was,
you
know,
considered
financially
unviable
at
the
moment.
But
this
this
would
remedy
many
of
the
problems
you
know.
Without
putting
the
full-time
traffic
lights
in
it
will
make
it
a
lot
safer
to
cross
it
will.
It
will
also
slow
down
the
traffic
at
the
junction
which
will
make
it
safer
at
the
junction.
K
K
K
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
contribution
just
to
let
the
speakers
know
that
we'll
now
remove
you
from
from
the
call,
but
you
can
continue
to
watch
the
webcast
on
the
council
website.
If
you
want
to
see
when
we
get
to
the
item,
you
have
you've
spoken
about.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
all
your
contributions
and
we'll
move
on
now
to
agenda
item
four,
which
is
the
scarborough
bridge
to
boone
park
cycle
route
improvements.
J
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
should.
I
should
have
just
said
that,
if
you're
able
to
in
your
your
comments
sort
of
if
there
are
particular
points
that
were
raised
by
the
speakers,
if
you
have
you
know
views
on
those
or
I
want
to
draw
attention
to
the
particular
sections
of
the
report,
that
would
probably
be
helpful
as
well.
J
Okay,
so
the
yes,
the
there's,
no
particular
updates
on
the
on
the
report
itself,
so
everything
contained
in
in
the
report.
So
if
I
can
take
each
of
the
points
raised
in
the
public
comments,
I'll
I'll
go
through
some
of
those.
If
that
that's
acceptable
yeah,
so
I
suppose
there's
a
number
of
comments
regarding
kind
of
the
heritage
and
conservation
area,
particularly
at
the
top
of
centenaries
and
and
junction.
J
I
think
it
should
be
stated
that
the
information
given
out
in
terms
of
the
the
plan
for
the
signals
at
that
junction
are
still
very
much
indicative
at
this
moment,
so
particular
positions
of
signal
poles
and
signs
lamp
columns,
etc.
We
still
need
to
justify
that
and
try
to
get
you
know
minimum
street
furniture
in
that
area
and
that
work
is,
is
yet
to
be
done
during
the
detailed
design
stage.
Obviously,
there
is
a
great
consideration
of
the
conservation
character
of
that
area.
J
We
certainly
wouldn't
seek
to
put
in
more
than
his
requirement.
We've
already
looked
in
him
imposing
low
low
low
level
signals
on
the
booth
and
park
gates,
side
of
of
bhuvan,
and
certainly
in
terms
of
any
changes
to
the
pavement
area,
and
there
was
some
proposed
stone
sets,
for
instance,
across
the
the
entrance
descent
mary's,
and
we
would
want
to
work
with
our
our
heritage,
colleagues
and
new
york,
civic
trust
as
suggested
so
that
we
we
don't
do
anything.
J
I
mean
in
terms
of
the
it's
it's
it's
great,
that
the
new
developers
of
google
park
are
proposing
no
vehicular
access
from
building.
That's
certainly,
certainly
good.
They
have
proposed
leaving
the
main
gates
which
are
currently
closed,
open
permanently,
which
does
make
that
route
a
lot
more
favorable
for
what
we
are
striving
for
in
increasing
the
attractiveness
of
that
route
in
terms
of
go
on
to,
let's
have
a
look,
I
mean
in
terms
of
the
turning
out
of
saint
mary's.
I
know
that
was
a
issue
is
well.
J
We
did
look
at
other
alternatives
and
there
is
currently
a
pedestrian
crossing
already
there.
It
is
life
expired
and
we're
looking
to
to
replace
it.
At
some
point,
we
looked
at
diverting
cyclists
in
effect
to
use
the
crossing
in
around
about
the
same
area
and
upgrading
it
to
a
joint
use-
token,
for
instance,
but
it
was
deemed
that
it
would
be
unattractive
for
users
sharing
the
the
footwears
there.
J
For
instance,
a
lot
of
confusing
clutter
of
signage,
particularly,
and
it
is
off
the
off
the
desire
line
and
the
safest,
safest
proposal
would
be
to
signalize
that
particular
crossing
the
to
do
that.
We
we
do
need
to
put
signals
into
some
areas,
and
obviously
that
would
would
stop
traffic
emerging
without
having
a
green
signal
to
to
proceed,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
cyclists
can
get
ahead
of
the
traffic
there
and
we'll
get
get
the
signal
and
safe
crossing.
J
Clearly
things
like
audible
signals,
we
would
seek
to
limit
that
particularly
at
night
time,
and
we
have
done
elsewhere
within
within
the
city
in
terms
of
light
pollution
from
signals.
We
we
install
cowls,
for
instance,
on
on
signal
heads
to
stop
any
shine
through
the
windows
and
we'd,
certainly
proposing
that
in
this,
this
location
here
move
on
then
to.
J
Some
of
the
safety
concerns,
and
certainly
the
the
surfacing
of
saint
mary's,
for
instance.
Clearly,
if
we
are
going
to
signal
this
route
as
the
preferred
route
and
for
it
to
be
it's
been
made
safe,
we
would
look
at
undertaking
quite
the
number
of
patching.
There
are
a
number
of
potholes
along
that
route.
J
J
Certainly,
yes,
the
21
days
period
is
a
is
a
standard
period
and
should
be
stressed
that,
although
we
we
did
request
for
any
responses
to
be
received
by
the
12th
of
october,
that
was
certainly
not
a
you
know,
a
cutoff
point
and
we
we
have
been
receiving
in
any
other
responses
for
a
good
week
or
two
until
until
my
report
was
was
drafted
afterwards,
and
so
I
do
do
believe.
We
have
fulfilled
that
criteria
for
21
days
in
terms
of
there
were
no
public
notices
put
up.
J
Unfortunately,
this
type
of
scheme
we
wouldn't
normally
put
up
public
public
notices,
such
as
we
would,
for
instance,
for
traffic
regulation
orders
where
we
do
put
things
on
lamp
columns,
this
type
of
scheme
we
wouldn't
normally
do
clearly.
If
there
are
any
traffic
regulation
orders
to
do
such
as
changing
the
double
yellow
lines
in
that
area,
they
will
be
advertised
in
that
way,
they
will
go
on
lamp
columns
and
that
will
obviously
be
something
that
you
will.
You
will
consider.
A
J
L
L
J
Certainly,
and
some
of
the
and
the
responses,
particularly
the
collective
response
from
the
from
the
residents
on
saint
mary's,
drew
attention
to
the
lack
of
available
parking
on
onsen
mary's
and
the
desire
to
preserve
that
as
much
as
possible.
And
as
you
can
see
in
my
report,
we
have.
We
have
looked
at
that
again
to
try
to
compensate
for
some
of
the
some
of
the
parking
spaces
which
we
do
need
to
lose
because
of
setting
the
stop
line
back
from
the
junction,
which,
unfortunately,
is
also
necessary.
L
M
L
J
L
J
J
Actually
there
might
actually
be
an
increase
of
one
compared
with
a
couple
of
months
ago,
so
we
can
just
return
to
consultation.
Again.
Sorry
I
mean
I
I
did
handle
and
deliver
all
the
leaflets
personally
as
much
as
possible
and,
as
I
said
in
my
office's
response,
I
did
deliver
leaflets
to
all
the
properties
which
I
was
available
to
to
access,
and
that
was
saint
mary's.
Marygate
lynn
said
mary's
lane
boo
them
within
proximity
of
the
junction.
J
I
mean
the
leaflet
itself,
it
should
be
stressed,
was
it
was
to
draw
attention
to
to
the
fact
that
we
were.
We
were
consulted
consulting
on
this
particular
scheme
and
to
direct
to
the
website,
so
there
weren't
any
detailed
plans
in
that
leaflet.
It's
obviously
very
difficult
for
to
include
that
type
of
information.
So
all
the
documents
were
put
on
the
website
and
were
available
for
for
the
public
to
to
consider
in
terms
of
the
press
release.
J
Also,
this
drew
attention
to
to
the
website
also-
and
I
mean
in
terms
of
when
the
press
release
was
actually
the
published
in
the
york
press,
for
instance.
Actually,
that
is
out
of
our
control.
It's
probably
perhaps
a
bit
frustrating
that
perhaps
that
didn't
happen
until
a
week
or
so
after
we
had
launched
this
public
consultation,
but
unfortunately,
that
that
is
out
of
our
control.
J
In
terms
of
standard,
I
should
be
said
actually
on
the
in
my
report,
where
it
does
say
we
we
emailed
the
standard
list
of
stakeholders
that
wouldn't
necessarily
that
wouldn't
be
the
actual
residence
themselves.
Obviously
we
don't
have
a
email
list
of
all
residents
on
a
particular
street.
That's
the
usual!
You
know
blue
light
services,
the
civic
trust
conservation,
for
instance.
It's
it's
those
those
parties
that
we
that
we
need
to
consult
as
a
as
a
matter
of,
of
course,
with.
J
Any
schemes
like
this
and
then
finally,
we
did
receive
a
a
written
written
response
regarding
potential
traffic
congestion
undo
them
as
a
result
of
these
signals
and
the,
as
stated
that
we
already
do
have
a
pedestrian
crossing
in
in
this
location,
which
does
which
is
well
used.
I
mean
it
does
just
get
activated
quite
quite
regularly
and.
J
Be
stated
that
the
the
constraint
here
isn't
is
an
outbound
traffic.
It's
it's
very
much
inbound
at
the
the
jill
gates
and
leonard's
junction,
and
certainly
an
appraisal
by
the
the
traffic
systems
team
stated
that
there
is
ample
capacity
for
us
to
undertake
the
works
at
this
at
this
junction,
and
certainly
in
terms
of
signal
timings.
We'd
want
we'd
want
to
minimize
minimize
any
delay
on
the
on
the
main
road,
which
is
recognized
obviously,
as
the
a19
building.
J
A
Well,
I
think
it
might
be
easiest
if
a
deal,
because
there's
like
three
different
elements
to
this
report
aren't
there.
So
if,
if
I
deal
with
each
one
in
turn,
I
think
that
might
be
clearest.
You
know
in
terms
of
decisions,
so
the
first
as
you've
said
in
the
report,
there's
a
b
and
c
option.
A
I'm
sorry
item
a
is
the
junction
which
you've
just
been
mostly
focused
on
on
the
signalization
of
of
the
junction,
just
wanted
to
clarify.
A
One
of
the
representations
we
had
was
talking
about
an
alternative
of
using
the
crossing,
but
that
is
what
you've
actually
referred
to
in
your
report.
Isn't
it
was
an
option
which
was
looked
at
early
on
and
the
war
councillors
and
yourselves
said
that
would
create
additional
diversion
for
cyclists,
but
also
added
pressures
in
terms
of
mixing
pedestrians
and
cyclists
on
the
diversion
from
their
desire
line
straight
across
into
booven
park.
M
A
So
I'm
happy
on
on
that
sort
of
aspect,
also,
in
the
amended
design,
you've
got
an
advance
smaller
cycle
advance
coming
out
of
of
marygate
at
some
areas.
Sorry,
should
I
say
coming
out
of
some
mary's
one
aspect
which
I
I
think
again,
you
said
there's
obviously
going
to
be
some
further
details.
Work
done
just
looking
at
the
actual
design
before
it's
implemented.
One
aspect
which
I
would
would
like
us
to
look
at
is
the
provision
of
you
know
like
on
a
junction
of
north
street
and
michael
gates.
A
A
So
I
think
that
advanced
box
and
a
five
second
advance
in
the
timing
for
that
junction
and
presumably
that
would
that
would
operate
at
the
same
time
as
cyclists
coming
out
of
bhuvan
and
wanting
to
turn
would
clear
the
junction
before
any
cars
get
there
if
you
sort
of
mean.
So
I
think
that's
that's
worth
a
sort
of
a
detailed
look
at
before
that
is
sort
of
actually
put
in
place
and
one
other
aspect
which
I
think
might
be
worth
drawing
attention.
A
I've
got
on
on
my
computer,
I'm
looking
at
a
street
view
of
the
junction
and
at
the
moment
the
gates
have
have
all
I
mean
they're,
obviously
worn
and
would
need
to
be
replaced,
but
they
have
got
keep
clear
wording
on
the
road.
So
I
think,
given
the
sort
of
garish
appearance
of
a
large
box
junction,
we
might
want
to
consider
whether
we
could
just
use
the
wording.
That's
already
there.
A
You
know
just
refreshing
the
current
lining
and
obviously,
if
it,
if
it
then
proves
to
be
a
problem
that
necessitates
the
box
junction
that
could
be
put
in
later.
But
I
just
think
in
terms
of
mitigating
the
visual
impact
we
want
to
keep
that
to
an
absolute
minimum
in
the
the
design
and
and
certainly
if
you've
sort
of
included
some
heritage
paving
across
the
mouth
of
the
road,
which
I
think
will
help
as
well
to
sort
of
given
that
there
will
be.
There
is
quite
a
significant
footfall
across
the
junction.
A
It
helps
to
draw
attention
to
that
without
in
a
in
an
appropriate
way.
For
the
listed
you
know,
the
listed
buildings
and
conservation
settings
so
very
much
support
those
those
measures,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
if
it
was
any
other
point.
The
only
other
question
I
had
was
just
to
understand
when
the
the
proposal
is
to
set
the
s
on
for
inbound
traffic.
There
will
be
a
stop
line
and
a
signal
to
the
north
of
the
junction.
Am
I
right
in
thinking
that
so
that,
when
traffic's?
A
Turning
particularly
if
cyclists
are
going
straight
across
or
turning
right,
then
they
would
that
traffic
would
be
held
back,
but
there
would
still
possibly
be
some
traffic
tailing
back
from
from
jilly
gate,
which
would
need
to
be
kept
clear
of
the
actual
crossing
of
the
pedestrian
crossing
so
that
that
would
be
sort
of
covered
within
the
design.
There
would
still
be
a
signal
head
at
the
crossing
itself
for
anybody
turning
right
out
of
marygate.
Would
that
be
the
case
really.
J
A
Yeah,
but
it
would,
if
somebody's
in
the
queue
they
would
know
that
there
was
a
the
crossing
was
being
activated.
You
know
if
it
had
come
through
already
on
the
inbound
side,
but
they
see
the
lights
change
to
allow
the
pedestrians
across
at
that
point.
Yeah.
Okay,
so
I
just
wanted
to
understand
how
that
that
works,
and
I
do
appreciate
the
need
to
to
work
with
our
conservation,
team
and
civic
trust,
if
necessary
as
much
as
we
can
to
minimise
the
impact,
but
with
those.
F
A
Yeah
yeah.
Well,
I
mean
obviously
I'm
just
concerned
from
a
safety
point
of
view
about
it
being
clear
to
drivers
that
the
crossing
is
in
operation.
If
they've
already
come
through
the
the
signal
past
the
signal
head
before
you
get
to
the
the
junction
that
they
can
see
what's
happening
with
that
with
that
crossing.
A
Thank
you.
I
think
that
covers
the
points
I
wanted
to
raise
on
on
on
a
so.
If
you
want
to
move
on
to
b,
which
is
looking
at
the
and
and
perhaps
also
take
on
board
your
points
about
potholes
onsen
mary's
and
having
just
looked
at
saint
mary's
lane
that
doesn't
have
a
whole
section
that
doesn't
need
resurfacing,
it's
got
loads
of
potholes,
hasn't
it
at
the
moment
you
know.
Hopefully,
we
can
include
that
as
part
of
the
work.
A
J
A
J
B
A
A
Yeah,
okay-
and
it's
been
stated,
obviously
that
there
is
a
route
through
there
that
can
be
used
by
cars,
although
imagine
not
very
many
will
will
use
it
because
it
is
quite
a
tight
corner
and
so
on.
But
in
terms
of
the
actual
design
we
might
need
to
think
about
just
whether
it's
signing
or
or
whatever,
to
make
it
obvious
to
road
users
that
that
will
become
a
more
more
busy.
A
J
Well,
that
is,
that
is
the
case
that
we
are
extremely
constrained
and
to
get
with
it
being
a
returning
wall
and
there's
no
widening
that
particular
gap
as
it
were.
Well,
there
are,
I
mean
there
are
alternative
routes
still
using
the
underpass
thing
to
be
in
terrace
to
get
up
to
them
and
any
adaptive
adapting
bag.
A
Okay-
and
so
so
yes,
I'm
happy
to
approve
that
part
which
takes
us
on
to
paragraph
c,
which
is
a
railway
walk.
Now.
I
appreciate
that
this
is
perhaps
one
of
the
most
contentious
aspects
of
it.
I
should
actually
perhaps
also
put
on
record.
We
did
have
a
very
long
and
detailed
representation
from
rebecca
lack,
which
does
particularly
focus
on
this
this
aspect,
so
I
just
want
to
put
on
record
that
that
has
been
received
and
I've
read
all
the
way
through
it
with
significant
considerable
interest.
A
J
Briefly,
there
are
69
70
car
parking
spaces
on
on
that
stretch,
parallel
to
to
railway
work,
and
we
would
need
to
effectively
turn
them
90
degrees
and
make
them
parallel
parking,
which
does
reduce
the
numbers
by
by
half
at
least
because
including
the
the
gaps
to
allow
kind
of
cyclists
and
pedestrians
through.
That
would
does
reduce
it
even
more
and
we
do
end
up
with
a
loss
of
my
estimate
was
44
car
parking
spaces.
J
J
We
will
just
remove
a
couple
of
those
car
parking
spaces
where
we
are
providing
gaps
in
the
bird's
mouth,
fencing,
for
instance,
so
that
people
coming
from
to
and
from
the
car
park
and
can
use
those
particular
gaps
or
pedestrians
or
cyclists
that
are
coming
through
the
car
park
as
well.
That
is
used
sometimes
in
that
way,
and
so
the
yes,
we
can.
A
Okay-
and
there
is
some
a
reference
in
the
report
to
ltn
120,
which
is
the
the
most
the
latest
dft
guidance
about
width
for
cycle
routes,
and
so
on.
Do
we
do
we
have
any
information
about
the
actual
number
of
cyclists
using
that
route
at
the
moment
I
know
I
think
we
have
a
count
on
scarborough
bridge.
Don't
we.
J
But
that
is
that
is
a
daily
number,
certainly
ltn,
120
does
say
minimum
widths
of
shared
use
routes
which
we
are.
This
is
proposed
unsegregated
of
up
to,
for
instance,
300
cyclists
per
hour,
which
clearly
this
is
a
lot
absolutely
yeah
of
three
meters
width
I
mean
it
sure
should
be
noticed.
That
is
three
meters
unconstricted
unconstrained
with.
So
no
no
vertical
features
on
either
side.
J
J
O
J
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
I
mean
obviously
this
is
a
classic
dilemma
about
space
for
cyclists
and
nursing
space
for
parking
cars,
but
I
do
accept
that
obviously
that,
as
has
been
stated
in
the
report,
if
you
were
going
to
go
for
anything
beyond
your
recommendation,
that
would
be
significant
financial
implications
potentially
for
the
council,
which
would
need
to
be
referred
to
the
executive.
So
I
don't
want
to
hold
this
process
up.
I'm
aware
that
you
know
this.
A
A
A
The
other
one
was
that
and
the
discussion
I
had
with
you
about
this.
I
do
appreciate
the
the
amendment
to
allow
one
a
few
gaps
into
in
in
the
bird's
mouth,
fencing
which
I
think
will
benefit
users
of
this
of
the
car
parking
as
well,
because
if
they're
wanting
to
go
to
booth
or
more
to
the
scarborough
bridge,
it's
more
attractive
to
walk
onto
a
an
area
which
hasn't
got
vehicles
maneuvering
to
get
where
they're
going.
A
Now
in
an
ideal
world,
the
logic
would
be
to
move
them
right
to
the
back
of
the
footwear
along
the
boundary
with
network
rail,
but
the
problem
with
that
is
that
that
would
put
them
into
the
tree
canopy
of
all
the
trees
along
there.
So
I'm
not
suggesting
that,
but
what
I
would
ask
is
that,
if
we're
going
to
have
to,
as
you
suggested,
we
are
going
to
have
to
reposition
those
that
we
add
an
extra
meter.
So
if
it's
three
three
point
four,
we
can
say
go
to
what
was
it
four
point?
A
Five
was.
That
was
the
recommended
if
we
actually
effectively
future
proof
the
location
of
those
lamps,
so
that
if
at
some
point
in
the
future,
you
know
a
future
administration
or
whatever
decides,
we
haven't,
got
extra
costs
of
moving
them.
Yet
again,
if
we
decide
we
want
to
widen
it
by
another
meter.
So
that's
what
I'm
I'm
proposing
that
we
do.
I
don't
realize
that
we'll
be
subject
to
technical
work
and
so
on,
but
I
think
you
know
if
we're
going
to
have
to
move
them
anyhow
and
also
install
lamps
that
face
both
ways.
A
A
L
Yeah
the
highlight,
obviously
with
all
our
highway
schemes
after
implementation,
there's
a.
I
think
we
call
it
a
stage-
3
safety
audit,
so
in
terms
of
your
concerns
about
post
implementation,
the
issues
around
cyclists
and
pedestrians,
obviously,
that
will
be
considered
as
part
of
that
steps,
3
safety
audits.
So
just
to
reassure
yourself
and
the
members
of
the
public
around
that
and
then
on
the
street
lighting
column
piece.
A
L
A
A
Appreciate
that
yeah
okay,
so
I
think
that
covers
the
points
I
wanted
to
raise
on
there.
I
think
I've
just
one
last
one
last
point
is
I'm
appreciate
at
the
moment
we're
in
lockdown
or
about
to
be
into
a
lockdown
situation,
so
there's
not
likely
to
be
that
much
demand
on
car
parking
space
until
december.
A
So
I
I
don't
know
how
quickly
we're
able
to
move
on
on
this,
but
obviously
there's
maybe
restrictions
on
what
we
can
do
within
the
lockdown
period.
But
I
would
I'm
sure
that
you
know
as
soon
as
we
can
get
on
on
with
this
the
the
better,
particularly
if
there's
other
works
to
be
take
place.
I
believe
there's
some
environment
agency
flood
works
due
to
take
place
at
some
point.
K
L
Me
take
the
works
as
quickly
as
we
can.
Councillor
de
gano's
would
recognize
the
advantage
that,
from
a
highway
maintenance
perspective
that
the
the
lockdown
gives
us
so
we're
looking
at
that.
But
what
I
would
note
is
obviously,
as
you've
alluded
to
in
the
decision
already.
There
are
a
number
of
ttro
processes,
particularly
at
the
booth
amendment.
Yeah
we've
got
to
wait
for
those.
A
Nice,
sorry,
I
was
referring
specifically
to
this
in
the
car
park.
To
be
honest,
yeah
yeah,
okay,
so
I
think
that,
with
with
those
comments,
I'm
happy
to
approve
this
complete
item.
So
that's
the
item
for
complete.
Thank
you
richard
for
all
your
work
on
this.
I
appreciate
it's
been
something
that
you
followed
through
after
the
work
on
scarborough
bridge.
So
you
know,
I
think
it.
Certainly
when
this
is
work
is
complete.
A
It
will
significantly
add
to
our
cycle
network
and
the
accessibility
of
the
station
from
the
north
of
the
city.
So
I
think
you
know
I
am
the
only
concern
I
have
is.
We
might
become
a
victim
of
our
own
success
that
there
will
be
a
lot
more
people
using,
in
which
point
in
time
we
will
have
more
complaints.
That
is
not
wide
enough,
so
you
can
understand
my
concern
not
wanting
to
put
in
things
that
might
be
criticized
for
later.
L
But
I
don't
think
we
do.
I
think
again,
just
reassure
you
council
to
go
on.
Obviously,
when
you
look
at
the
design
and
we've
talked
about
the
ramp,
this
is
a
significant
pinch
point
there
on
the
ramp.
You
know
and
obviously
well.
There's
we've
got
some
incredibly
well
used,
cycleways
across
the
city
that
the
that
do
not
meet
the
ln
120,
and
so
the
capacity
of
lm
120
is
principally
designed
around.
L
You
know
some
very,
very
wide
open
spaces
available
for
brand
new
cycleways
in
in
terms
of
design,
so
I
would
expect,
for
example,
the
a1237
design
when
we're
looking
at
cycleways
there,
where
we
are
looking
at
effectively
open
field
development,
there'll,
be
opportunities
to
make
sure
we
have
fully
compliant,
but
lm
120
in
the
city
center.
I
think,
is
always
going
to
be
an
incredible
challenge.
A
A
A
A
M
Location
and
so
on
so
you've
you've
got
three
signal
schemes
in
front
of
you
today.
Each
of
them
have
different
drivers
behind
them.
The
boovam
scheme
is
an
improvement
for
cycling
facilities.
The
green
dykes
lane
scheme
is
a
pedestrian
based
scheme.
This
particular
scheme
forms
part
of
the
sar
program.
M
Purpose
of
which
is
to
replace
life
expired
traffic
signal
assets,
so
they
can
continue
to
work
properly
and
we
can
maintain
them
cost
effectively,
as
we
do
that
refurbishment
and
replacement.
There
is
the
opportunity
to
implement
easy
wins
improvements
that
are
not
drastically
different
from
the
underlying
purpose
of
that
program.
M
We've
done
33
of
those
schemes
so
far,
and
the
this
is
the
most
recent
one.
That's
in
front
of
you
today.
Construction
is
planned
for
january.
The
4th
and
you
have
two
options
in
front
of
you.
The
first
is
basically
a
do
minimum
replace
all
the
life
expired
equipment
so
that
the
junction
basically
operates
as
it
does
today,
but
with
newer,
more
reliable
equipment.
The
second
option
is
the
option
that
we're
recommending
that
goes
one
step
further.
That
introduces
two
pedestrian
facilities
onto
the
two
pedestrian
crossings
onto
the
junction.
M
F
M
M
A
M
There
there
are
no
box
junctions
on
the
current
designs,
but
that
can
absolutely
be
looked
at
at
the
detail
design
stage.
Yes,
if
it's
necessary
the
the
benefits
of
option
two,
in
addition
to
the
improved
pedestrian
facilities,
it
is
deemed
to
be
a
safer
arrangement
because
those
pedestrian
crossings
are
controlled.
The
safety
assessment
has
suggested
that
option.
Two
is
a
safer
arrangement,
so
it
is.
It
is
for
that
reason,
the
plan
future
proving
for
developments
and
the
improved
safety
that
we're
recommending
option.
K
M
M
M
A
A
A
Post
that
question.
Sorry,
if
I
can
just
explain
if,
if
you're
cyclists,
heading
east
from
crichton
avenue
towards
junction
and
you're,
not
wanting
to
go
on
to
wiggington
road,
but
you're
wanting
to
actually
go
down
the
little
slip
road
onto
the
sustrans
path.
How
would
you
make
that
maneuver?
Because
if
they,
if
crichton
avenue,
does
creighton
avenue
have
a
phase
of
its
own?
That's
what
I'm
supposed?
What
I'm
asking
or
will
be
left
turning
traffic
coming
in.
M
M
O
I
was
just
going
to
add,
essentially
eastbound
movement
along
creighton
avenue.
The
foot
shed
footwear
to
the
south
of
the
road
itself
is
actually
bi-directional
for
cyclists
and
pedestrians
right,
so
the
cyclist
movement
is
actually
along
the
south
side
of
the
crichton
road
carriageway
and
then
that
allows
you
to
come
straight
down
onto
the
path.
The.
A
M
O
L
A
O
Yes,
basically,
one
of
the
options
is
the
tree
is
actually
made
up
of
about
three
or
four
separate
trunks,
and
we
can
take
off
a
couple
of
the
trunks
without
actually
chopping
down
the
entire
tree
to
create
enough
space
for
the
signal
head
and
also
kind
of
future
maintenance
problems.
We
can
avoid
that
by
removing
some
of
the
tree
rather
than
all
of
it.
So
as
I
said
that
will
be
part
of
the
detailed
design
pack
that
we
have
not.
A
A
I
think
this
is
a
worthwhile
investment
at
this
point
in
time.
Obviously,
spending
money
to
replace
the
traffic
lights
in
any
case,
but
this
change
to
include
a
pedestrian
crossing
facility
will
make
it
safer
and
more
attractive
for
people
walking.
You
know
a
mile
or
so
into
town
from
this
location
or
walking
to
and
from
the
hospital
for
that
matter.
A
N
It's
tony
clark
here,
councillor
gordon.
The
report
sets
out
the
the
full
capital
program
that
we
operate
within
the
transport
service
and
there's
some
highlighted
changes
that
are
required
as
part
of
our
monitoring
process.
We
have
within
the
within
the
year
and
in
particular
the
the
point
you
raised
about
the
emergency
active
travel
fund
item.
We.
L
N
We
put
a
a
a
submission
in
for
the
tranche
two
of
that
and
we're
still
awaiting
an
announcement
on
that
point.
But
in
in
principle
the
we've
suggested
you
in
the
proposed
to
bring
forward
some
development
work
on
two
of
the
schemes
within
that
trans2
ski
scheme
lift
so
that's
cycle
routes
along
achen
road
and
some
work
to
develop
a
scheme
for
the
a1237
bridges
over
the
rivers
and
east
coast
main
line
to
bring
those
forward.
N
A
Nevertheless,
that
is
a
really
important
route
for
anyone
wanting
to
walk
or
cycle
to
mana
school
from
from
the
east
side,
and
if
we
can
actually
put
something
that
makes
that
safer,
we've
got.
You
know
teenagers
using
that
already,
and
particularly
now,
it's
dark.
You
know
it's
not
at
all
attractive
as
a
route
with
60
mile
an
hour.
Traffic
very
close
to
people
are
walking
and
cycling
across
that
narrow,
relatively
narrow
bridge.
N
A
N
A
A
Right,
okay
with
well
with
those
particular
comments.
I
note
on
annex
one
gives
a
list
of
all
the
approved
budget
items
and
there
are.
There
are
some
things
on
there,
which
probably
you
know
either
might
have
slipped
or
we'll
be
adjusting
as
as
time
goes
goes
by,
but
it's
quite
a
significant
program
of
work
which
keeps
stuff
very
busy,
and
hopefully
that
will
that
work.
You
know
what
we
are
able
to
adjust
it
and
and
do
what
we
can
in
the
current
covered
circumstances
in
a
safe
manner.
N
If
I
could
just
just
say
so,
the
annex
two
runs
through
the
full
program
and
some
detailed
changes
that
we're
proposing
budget
changes
in
response
to
the
way
the
schemes
are
progressing
across
the
board.
There's
one
that
one
of
their
lord
daramos
school,
which
is
now
a
completed
scheme
or
just
about
completed.
There,
was
some
additional
costs
in
there.
That's
not
mentioned
separately
within
the
report,
but
is
included
within
the
nx.
A
Okay
right
right:
well,
I'm
I'm
happy
to
to
note
those
comments
and
obviously,
as
you
say,
some
adjustments
are
needed
in
terms
of
costs
either
being
delayed
or
adjusted
to
take
account
of
the
emergency
active
travel
fund
and
the
work
that
we're
doing
to
bring
those
forward
as
quickly
as
as
possible,
all
right,
okay.
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
that
item
that
takes
me
to
agenda
item
seven
then,
which
is
the
green
dykes,
lane
puffin
crossing
proposed
crossing
who's,
leading
on
this
one.
N
F
Me
to
a
mute
for
some
reason,
but
anyway
yeah
it's
good.
Yes,
as
there
were
no
changes
as
such
to
the
content
of
the
report
that
you
got
in
front
of
you
as
councillor
pavlovich
and
the
resident
martin
emerson
quite
put
in
detail,
as
you
can
see-
and
I
know
you're
familiar
with
the
area
itself
on
the
background
of
why
the
crossing
is
required.
F
Yeah
yeah:
well,
we've
got
down
on
option
one,
which
is
the
recommended
option
to
proceed
in
the
location
on
nxa,
drawing
for
the
construction
of
the
putting
crossing
in
that
location
and
of
a
quite
a
substantial
time.
I've
gone
into
detail
in
this
scheme
to
assess
where
we
can
possibly
fight
the
crossing
the
formal
crossing
facility
and,
after
you
know,
numerous
meetings
with
utility
companies
and
that
surveying
the
area
in
detail
as
well.
F
There
is
only
yeah,
this
particular
area
that
we
can
actually
install
it
apart
from
it
being
near.
It
needs
to
be
near
the
desire
line
of
thief
lane,
there's
due
to
existing
utility
operators
and
physical
constraints
such
as
driveways
and
mature
trees,
etc.
The
there
isn't
any
other
option
but
to
fight
it
at
this
particular
location.
It's
it's
very
much.
F
We
did
look
at
an
option
of
potentially
installing
a
crossing
also
on
thief
lane,
but
it
was
deemed
not
that
he
would
probably
not
get
used
that
often,
but
it's
kind
of
off
the
off
the
desire
line
to
most
people
continue
to
use
the
the
buff
colored
informal
crossing
points
which
are
on
on
at
the
actual
junction
itself,
people
in
the
green
game.
So
there
was
we,
we
did
get
some
inquiries.
F
F
We
did
look
into
detail
and
it's
our
topic
signals
and
seeing
at
the
possibility
of
traffic
lights,
and
I
think
also
that
was
outlined
by
one
of
the
speakers
at
the
the
large
cost
of
that.
But
when
we
actually
looked
into
it
technically,
it
wasn't
really
feasible
from
of
various
different
points
and
and
the
geometry
of
the
site
itself.
F
A
F
A
F
Yes,
yeah
there
was
one
potential
downside
in
that
it
did
remove
a
potential
parking
space
if
somebody
wanted
to
park
down
towards
the
junction
of
kexby
avenue
a
bit
further
down
by
the
time
we've
installed.
If
we
install
the
the
proposed
eight
number
zigzag
alliance,
it
would,
it
would
take
away
potential
to
park
if,
if
the
resident
wanted
arson
what
he
wanted.
A
F
A
F
A
A
But
then,
when
the
crossing
patrol
warden,
retired
or
or
left
a
safety
assessment
deemed
that
it
wasn't
a
safe
location
for
even
for
the
crossing
patrol
with
a
bright
yellow
coat
and
what
have
you
to
be
located.
So
it's
quite
clearly
a
point
where
a
lot
of
people
are
wanting
to
cross
the
road,
but
there
isn't
any
safe
provision
at
the
moment.
A
So
on
balance,
I
would
support
the
recommendation
to
go
ahead
with
installing
this
facility
at
that
location
and,
as
I
said
at
the
beginning,
I
do
acknowledge
that
this
is
being
funded
jointly
by
mood
funding
from
upward
highways
funding
from
the
whole
road
ward
and
the
fisher
gate
ward.
So
all
respective
all
councillors
have
supported
that
proposal
and
as
you've
got
here
in
front
of
us,
so
I'm
happy
to
approve
that
your
option.
One
recommendation
to
implement
this
scheme.
A
F
A
N
That's
right,
councillor
bill
sean,
we'll
we'll
run
through
the
detail,
but
this
was
the
item
that
unfortunately,
the
the
member
of
public
who
registered
tracy
moran
couldn't
couldn't
speak
for
a
technical
reason.
So
I
really
need
to
cover
off
her
particular
points
that
she
was
raised.
They
are
included
within
the
report.
N
She
she
queried
the
time
given
throughout
the
respond
on
the
consultation
letter
and
the
lesson
that
we've
covered,
that
off
that.
Obviously
we
any
cult
responses
back.
We
did
to
pick
up,
and
there
was
time
for
us
to
consider
those,
including
those
in
the
report
she's
able
to
ask
for
information
related
to
the
criteria.
N
You
feel
that
selecting
this
location-
and
that
was
passed
over
to
her,
I
think
clearly
in
the
report
we've
raised
the
issue
about
other
potential
locations
along
that
that
road
have
more
there's
more
impact
with
drives
bus
stops
other
utility
apparatus
other
items
in
the
area
which
made
it
more.
It
would
make
it
more
difficult
to
put
a
crossing
in
another
location
and
also
in
terms.
N
One
of
the
design
elements
was
the
concerns,
particularly
about
the
noise
and
flashing
for
any
beacons
that
might
be
there.
This
is
a
a
zebra
crossing
that
we're
talking
about
here,
and
so
there
are
flashing
lights,
but
they
are
what's
called
a
zebrite
type
which
restricts
the
sort
of
the
light
emission
that
might
impact
on
red
local
residents,
and
that
can
be
further
constrained.
If
that
becomes
a
problem
and
yeah
there
isn't
any
noise
as
such
from
those
from
those
lights.
It's
not
a
signalized
crossing.
N
She
had
concerns
about
that.
Access
to
the
property
in
particular
exiting
the
driveway
it
is.
The
drive
is
particularly
close
to
the
zebra
crossing,
but
it
is
considered
to
be
a
safe
location
and
access
and
accessible
in
and
out,
and
she
is
concerned
particularly
for
her-
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
about
what
what
I
can
raise
here,
but
she
is
the
relative
of
a
resident
at
that
property.
A
A
N
That
do
correct.
I
think,
if
I
just
summarize
any
other
points
that
might
be
in
the
letter,
but
maybe
not
being
explicitly
stated
there.
There
was
concerns
about
more
detail
about
the
input
made
by
local
ward
members.
I
think
we've
we
responded
back
to
that
and
there
should
have
been
a
direct
contact
with
the
resident
the
concerns
regarding
essential
access
and
impact
on
the
residents,
health
and
well-being.
A
Yes,
I'm
was
aware
of
the
the
concerns
some
months
ago
when,
when
it
first
came
up,
so
it's
not
just
what
you've
put
in
the
report.
I
was
all
aware
and
liaising
with
the
councillors
to
ensure
that
those
concerns
were
were
considered
as
as
fully
as
possible
and,
as
you
say,
for
the
other
locations
that
have
been
looked
at
fulfill
the
objectives
of
the
crossing,
less
so
or
else
they're
constrained
by
other
street
furniture
and
other
hazards,
which
are
not
the
case
at
this
this
location.
A
But
I
think
from
the
point
of
view,
as
was
stated,
there's
a
resident
got
petitioned
up
some
four
years
ago,
so
this
is
something
which
local
residents
have
been
hoping
for
looking
forward
to
for
for
some
time
now.
So,
if
we're
able
to
actually
move
ahead
with
implementing
that,
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
contribution
to
safety
in
the
area
and
encouraging
young
people
to
access
the
playing
area
and
others.
You
know
to
be
able
to
cross
the
road
in
a
safe
way.