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AGENDA
1. Declarations of Interest 00:00:58
2. Minutes 00:01:55
3. Public Participation 00:02:18
4. TSAR Traffic Signal Refurbishment - Hull Road/Osbaldwick Link Road 00:02:28
5. The Groves Area Experimental Traffic Regulation Order 00:05:47
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A
B
Do
that
I
would
firstly
take
the
item
number
one,
which
is
declarations
of
interest
I'd
like
to
put
on
record
fact
that,
along
with
the
ward
councillors,
I
was
present
at
the
park
Grove
consultation
meeting
on
the
17th
of
February
this
year
when,
along
with
a
number
of
transport
officers,
we
answered
questions
from
the
general
public
and
helps
them
to
understand.
The
proposals
also
notes
have
registered
to
speak.
B
B
What
the
following
item
actually
cited
for
on
the
agenda
paper
is
the
Czar
traffic
signal
refurbishment
whole
Road
Oswald,
with
link
road
just
to
explain
I
will
take
the
public
participation
immediately
before
the
item
they've
registered
to
speak.
I've
got
no
one
adjusted
to
speak
on
this
particular
item.
I
have
had
a
representation
from
the
hospital
ward
council
who
said
that
they
have
been
consulted,
but
this
is
actually
in
as
I'm
standing
is
in
Ward.
B
D
Care,
so
this
is
a
traffic
signal
asset
renewal
scheme
which,
as
it
sounds,
is
basically
a
piece
of
work
to
replace
life
expired
traffic
signal
junctions.
Basically,
the
junction
is
so
old.
It's
not
operating
correctly,
resulting
in
delays
and
such
or
at
present.
It
is
not
unsafe,
but
it
is
getting
to
that
point.
So
we
need
to
basically
replace
the
junction
those
there
signaling
equipment,
ducting
and
such
forth.
Whilst
we
were
building
up
that
scheme,
we
looked
for
the
opportunity
to
save
some
easy
wins
as
well,
whilst
we're
in
there.
D
What
else
can
we
do
that
isn't
so
far
removed
from
our
overall
aims?
So
the
report
we
have
in
front
of
you
describes
the
we've
come
up
with
their
mechanics.
B
has
a
drawing
and
annex
agent
consultation
that
we've
carried
out
on
the
proposal.
What
we've
put
forward?
It's
pretty
much
a
like-for-like
replacement
scheme,
there's
a
couple
of
amendments
to
the
cycling
facilities
based
on
consultation,
feedback
that
improve
the
routes
along
haul
road
and
address
some
of
the
issues
on
the
side
route.
But
that
is
a
basic
summary
of
the
scheme
in
front
of
you.
B
B
B
Each
speaker
has
three
minutes
to
address
us
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
speakers
and
I
will
ask
our
technical
support
to
remove
them
from
the
Proceedings
of
this
this
meeting,
but
they
can
continue
to
watch
the
proceedings
through
the
website
through
the
council
website.
So
the
first
speaker
have
registered
on
this
item
is
Brian
Houghton
who's,
the
chair
of
trustee
from
door.
84
is
brian
on
the
line
Bridget
speak
to
us.
Yes,.
D
E
Laudable,
we
feel
more
discussions
on
Edie
to
finalize
the
plans.
The
whole
process,
in
our
opinion,
is
being
rushed
without
full
consultation.
We
were
represented
at
the
February
discussions
outlining
the
proposals
that
which
concerns
were
raised.
We
were
then
asked
for
comments
in
March
and
then
told
there
would
be
a
further
meeting.
This
has
not
happened.
Has
anyone
in
the
transport
department
any
idea
of
the
work
carried
out
at
84,
louder,
Street
I,
doubt
it.
We
should
have
really
invited
to
discuss
the
implications
as
a
major
employer
in
the
area
and
put
forward
our
concerns.
E
Our
impact
statement
clearly
sets
out
the
concerns
we
have
going
forward,
doriga
for
young
people,
snappy,
lollipop
and
community
sports,
or
have
to
consider
attendees
being
brought
to
the
premises
by
transport
for
disabled
users
with
special
access
for
some
very
vulnerable
young
people.
We
and
our
tenants,
organized
trips,
etc.
Using
coach
travel
several
times
a
year
and
it
would
be
impossible
for
coaches
to
access
and
even
as
the
site,
we
have
eight
different
building
user
organizations
on
the
premises
and
our
own
Club
use
at
nine
youth
sessions.
The
impact
will
be
felt
by
all.
E
None
of
us
want
to
lose
our
attendees.
That's
what
we're
there
for
look
after
the
young
people
of
York,
an
area
where
the
council
has
been
sadly
lacking
in
recent
years.
It
will
have
a
huge
impact
on
all
our
incomes,
reducing
those
attending
events
etc
and
reducing
income,
possibly
causing
job
losses.
We
are
currently
operating
a
full
property
project
on
site,
supporting
some
50
families
with
weekly
supplies
in
other
areas
of
the
city,
as
well
as
the
groves.
We
need
access
and
egress
to
the
site
for
deliveries
also
collation
and
delivery
of
the
parcels.
E
This
use
service
has
been
in
existence
for
80
years.
We
currently
not
only
operate
from
our
street,
but
have
been
involved
with
youth
outreach
work
at
Roundtree
park,
scuffle
old
school
and
strengthen
the
proposed
development
would
have
a
huge
impact
on
the
further
work
and
success
of
the
club.
Please
can
we
have
further
consultation
before
the
scheme
is
rushed
through
without
serious
consideration
for
users
in
the
area.
We
are
desperate
for
the
scheme
not
to
go
ahead
in
its
current
form,
as
it
will
have
a
dire
financial
implications
to
all
users
of
Dority
fall
down.
E
B
E
It
isn't
accessible
by
vehicles,
it's
very
it's
a
very
tight
turn
off
and
round
the
street
down
the
lane
and
then
it's
a
very
sharp
turn
into
the
school
playground,
which
is
you
the
playground.
So
we
wouldn't
want
vehicle
access
in
because
always
spillage
and
suchlike
on
an
area
where
the
children
play
frequently.
Okay,.
B
F
Hi
my
name's
Hillary
Platt
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Belle,
found
Community
Association
and
good
morning
to
everyone
says
both
on
Community
Association
would
like
to
lodge
our
objections
with
the
current
road
closures
plan
for
the
grocery
of
York
and
asked
why
surrounding
areas
like
us,
that
will
be
impacted
adversely
by
these
road
closure.
Closure
plans
have
not
been
included
in
your
consultation.
F
We
are
aware
that
even
by
and
figures
traffic
will
increase
in
God's,
with
Avenue
increase
in
pointing
to
merge
and
increase
in
tracks
curb
what
provisions
are
you
putting
in
place
to
combat
this
place?
We've
we
have
been
asked
by
our
residents.
What's
our
has
been
giving
to
the
people
who
live
here?
Some
are
also
very
built-up
residential
residential
areas.
At
the
side
of
the
closures,
we
have
children
that
will
be
walking
to
school
further
at
risk
from
prior
buildup
of
traffic.
Carbon
emissions.
F
Emergency
access
to
the
hospital
will
take
longer
as
the
maynia
they're
already
very
high
traffic
areas,
with
queues
most
of
the
day.
Access
to
the
hospital
is
very
limited
due
to
closures
on
Wall,
Street
and
other
three
streets
from
perhaps
viewers
already.
We
would
like
to
know
if
there
has
been
an
impact
assessment
and
regarding
emergency
vehicles
accessing
the
hospital
from
this
side
of
york.
If
so,
what
were
the
conquerer
conclusions?
We
have
looked
and
cannot
find
anything
that
includes
anyone
from
the
side
of
the
closures
and
this
not.
Why
not?
F
We
feel
that
this
project
will
only
benefit
in
fact,
I'll
a
very
small
proportion
of
yot
residents,
many
of
whom
live,
who
live
in
the
Groves
do
not
actually
want
it.
We
have
been
told
it's
what
residents
want,
which
is
what
you're
telling
us.
We
would
challenge
this
and
would
like
to
show
you
to
show
us
proof
of
this,
and
we
are
aware
that
at
the
last
consultation
meeting
you
held
on
in
February,
unfortunately,
I
was
unable
to
attend
residents.
F
Shop
owners
and
user
groups
within
the
area
at
the
area
came
out
overwhelmingly
against
the
project.
This
is
not
a
city
center
shopping
precinct,
which
means
coarsely
closing
for
safety
unless
you
are
wanting
to
close
of
every
through
route
to
the
city
from
this
side
of
town
to
preserve
all
of
our
quality
of
air.
F
You
have
not
shown
that
these
closures
will
benefit
more
people
than
it
adversely
affects
nearly
for
our
residents
in
Bel
farm,
the
Daraa
area
and
here
with
areas
of
York,
the
BC
air,
completely
against
any
closures
and
more
Freight
it
as
an
hour
as
much
as
we
possibly
can.
Until
truly
impact
assessments
are
done,
which
includes
our
areas
showing
that
you
are
not
just
pushing
the
problem
elsewhere,
including.
F
Services,
how
much
time
extra
may
be
spent
in
traffic
to
reach
the
hospital
in
an
emergency?
What
extra
time
will
be
of
a
fire
engine
reaching
other
streets
with
the
extra
traffic
being
pushed
until
already
gridlocked
words
pass
the
word
school
safety
for
children,
crossing
a
busy
earth
and
the
impact
on
air
quality
there
from
there
extra
from
extra
standing
traffic?
That's
worse,
Avenue!
What
the
traffic
impact
will
be
on
already
overcrowded
built-up
residential
area,
constant
alert,
the
impact
of
extra
traffic
on
already
busy
words,
that
is
also
a
residential
area.
B
G
G
A
G
Diverse
community,
including
elderly,
in
vulnerable
people,
people
on
low
incomes,
people
with
disabilities
and
students.
Many
of
these
people
do
not
have
cars.
There
are
also
people
have
chosen
to
live
in
the
area
because
of
its
proximity
to
public
transport.
We
also
have
cyclist
using
the
routes
through
the
growth
of
safer
routes.
The
majority
of
vehicles
on
penalties,
grossly
and
loudest
feet
are
using
image
shortcuts,
often
speeding
dangerously.
It
is
not
uncommon
to
see
stationary
queues
of
traffic
with
engines
running
emitting
dangerous
fuels.
G
They
cause
pollution,
make
mistakes
and
safety
by
the
community
and
deter
residents
from
using
the
open
spaces.
People
with
disabilities.
Parents
with
children
have
reported
that
they
are
often
afraid
and
people
with
asthma,
I've
told
me
they
will
regularly
do
a
detour
to
avoid
the
fuels.
These
proposed
changes
will
not
do
from
accessing
and
parking
their
streets,
nor
will
it
prevent
access
to
the
shop
storage
for
the
school
and
the
church.
G
H
G
These
plans,
who
were
previously
less
keen
the
emphasis
on
local
limit
of
exercise,
has
meant
an
increase
in
the
number
of
people,
walking,
cycling
and
shopping
locally
meta
traffic
will
facilitate
sufficiency,
and
in
this
context,
I
have
been
asked
specifically
to
mention
people
with
special
abilities,
I'm
real
change.
We
need
wider
spaces
in
order
to
function,
distance
that.
A
D
I
J
Also,
the
junction
on
Park
Grove
that
connects
it
to
Brownlow,
Street
and
Neville
Terrace
very
clearly
has
a
no
entry
sign
when
you
are
going
over
the
speed
bump
towards
the
school,
which
is
entirely
ignored.
This
is
entirely
illegal,
but
people
continue
to
do
it
and
many
pupils,
myself
included,
also
cross
the
roads
here.
The
school
has
voiced
complaints
about
this
many
times,
but
no
action
has
been
taken
about
the
issue,
so
overall
I
believe
that
the
school's
general
consensus
in
the
matter
is
in
support
of
this
experiment.
I
Okay,
and
just
with
my
remaining
minute
I
think
I
read
through
the
comments
that
were
submitted
after
the
February
meeting
a
number
of
people.
This
is
a
skill
problem
and
the
school
should
be
educating
the
parents
I
just
like
to
confirm
and
reassure
people.
The
school
has
been
doing
its
best
over
several
years.
In
my
experience
to
try
and
raise
this
issue
of
kind
of
traffic
in
the
area,
there
hasn't
really
changed
the
overall
issue,
and
that's
because
this
is
not
a
school
only
problem.
I
It's
a
wider
issue
of
people
using
live
street
and
penny
Grove,
Street
and
associated
streets
as
kind
of
rat,
runs
for
their
convenience.
So
it's
it's
a
wider
problem,
not
a
school.
Only
problem,
it's
obscuring
actually
a
wider
problem
at
the
expense
of
the
health
and
well-being
of
Groves
residents,
including
its
its
youngest.
I
K
You,
my
wife
and
I,
live
on
penalties,
Grove
Street,
and
we
both
support
the
proposed
experimentation
in
the
groves
in
our
particular
case,
there's
a
speed
bump
associated
with
the
pedestrian
crossing
immediately
outside
the
house.
Every
morning
we
become
aware
of
the
first
vehicles
driving
along
the
road
about
4:30
a.m.
and
the
traffic
continues
throughout
the
day
peaking
during
rush
hours
at
times
a
continuous
procession
of
vehicles,
but
about
an
average
of
about
a
car,
every
10
to
20
seconds.
K
One
particular
issue
is
that
the
road
is
a
twenty
mile,
an
hour
zone,
but
many
vehicles
appear
to
ignore
the
speed
limit.
Pedestrian
crossing
outside
our
house
connects
to
alleyways,
which
lead
to
both
Park
Grove
and
st.
will
for
its
primary
schools.
We
often
observed
that
parents
with
children,
and
indeed
groups
of
children,
are
particularly
nervous
crossing
the
road
here
due
to
the
speed
of
the
traffic.
K
Currently,
our
quality
of
life
is
residents
and
the
lives
of
many
other
residents
in
the
Groves
are
compromised
by
the
volume
and
speed
of
traffic
passing
along
our
residential
streets.
We
understand
the
concern
that
other
roads
would
become
busier,
but
these
roads
are
wider
than
ours
and
are
designed
specifically
for
higher
traffic
levels.
I
wish
to
record
that,
of
course,
we
recognize
the
inconvenience
that
drivers
will
encounter
as
a
result
of
the
proposed
changes.
K
However,
the
importance
of
residents,
welfare,
mental
health
and
quality
of
life
must
be
recognized
and
acknowledged
when
balanced
against
slightly
longer
vehicle
journeys.
We
also
know
that
we
as
residents,
will
also
be
inconvenienced
by
limited
options
for
entering
and
exiting
the
groves
of
our
vehicles,
just
like
the
other
drivers.
However,
we
sincerely
believe
that
this
is
a
compromise
very
much
worth
accepting.
K
So,
to
conclude,
we
are
very
much
in
favor
of
the
proposals
and
urge
the
executive
executive
member
to
implement
the
experiment,
remembering
that
it
is
indeed
an
experiment.
If
a
proposals
do
not
work
and
other
options
should
be
tried
and
if
not
have
improved
to
be
feasible,
that
we
would
have
to
accept
the
result,
but
at
least
we
would
have
tried
tried
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
very
many
residents
of
York.
A
L
My
name
is
Kerry
Coulter
I'm,
a
resident
of
the
Grove
and
I'm
a
mother
of
two
children.
One
of
my
children
attends
Parker
school
I'm
in
support
of
the
proposals,
because
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
excessive
traffic
levels
in
the
very
narrow
residential
streets
of
the
Groves,
which
have
very
narrow
pavements,
and
this
squeezes
the
pedestrians
in
the
growth
onto
these
very
narrow
spaces,
and
it
has
a
very
negative
impact
on
the
quality
of
lives
of
residents
of
the
Groves
when
the
traffic
levels
dropped
in
the
early
weeks
of
the
lockdown.
L
One
of
the
positive
aspects
of
that
very
difficult
time
was
that
we
discovered
that
the
growth
could
be
a
much
more
pleasant
and
livable
neighborhood.
It
became
much
easier
to
cross
the
roads,
especially
at
the
points
mentioned
by
the
previous
speaker,
where
we've
also
encountered
a
lot
of
difficulty
and
anxiety
trying
to
cross
roads.
What
we
observed
was
that
the
curves
became
a
pleasant
livable
space.
It's
not
it.
It
became
somewhere
that
wasn't
just
somewhere
to
rush
through
to
get
from
our
home
to
school
or
to
get
some
our
home
to
town
and
vice
versa.
L
It
became
a
place
that
we
wanted
to
be
that
we
wanted
to
exist
in
that
we
enjoyed
living
in
as
a
parent
of
a
pupil
at
school
I
think
the
proposals
will
also
help
improve
the
experience
of
drop-off
and
collection
at
the
school
and
with
social
distancing
at
the
current
time.
I
think
it
will
also
improve
the
learning
and
play
environment
for
the
pupils
and
thinking
at
a
community
level.
I
think
that
the
proposed
changes
will
hopefully
help
us
to
see
growth
in
the
groves
in
community
initiatives
like
green
in
the
groves.
L
I
hope
that
it
will
help
to
nurture
the
growth
at
the
community
with
the
shared
sense
of
purpose
belonging
and
pride
somewhere
that
we
really
enjoy
living
in
and
that
we
can
really
help
to
build
and
fulfill
the
potential
of
this
community,
which
I
think
has
the
potential
to
be
a
great
place
to
live.
I
think
it's
also
important
that
we
bear
in
mind
that
the
city
is
seeing
a
lot
of
new
proposals
and
schemes
around
walking
and
cycling
and,
from
my
point
of
view,
as
a
growth
resident.
M
M
The
removal
of
the
streams
have
bumper-to-bumper
traffic,
which
currently
cut
through
the
Grove
at
peak
periods
and
other
times
of
the
day,
will
improve
air
quality
and
road
safety
in
an
area
which
includes
the
primary
school
and
a
lot
of
our
early
residents,
and
it
will
support
more
walking,
cycling
and
community
activity.
This
proposal
has
arisen
from
a
long
process
of
community
engagement
and
it
is
consistent
with
changes
have
taken
place
around
the
country
now
to
provide
safer
and
healthier
neighborhoods.
I
just
wanted
to
add
here.
M
In
response
to
the
first
speaker,
a
bit
of
an
apology,
I
think
there
must
have
been
a
bit
of
a
communication
problem
with
Dorothy,
4
and
snappy.
We
do
hugely
value
their
contribution
to
the
Groves
and
I
think
we
need
to
just
progress.
Those
conversations
after
after
this
meeting,
but
I
do
think
we
can
resolve
a
lot
of
the
issues
and
speaker
ways.
Change
is
always
difficult
and,
quite
naturally,
different
people
do
have
different
views
on
the
proposals.
M
Some
specific
localised
issues
were
raised
from
the
detailed
plans
were
discussed
with
residents
at
the
Park
Row
school
event
and
officers.
Officers
have
made
amendments
in
response
to
those.
The
use
of
an
experimental
order
means
that
further
adjustments
can
be
made
during
the
child
period,
based
on
the
direct
experience
and
feedback
of
residents.
The
length
of
the
order
means
there
is
time
for
the
changes
to
bed
in
and
for
their
impacts
to
be
fully
assessed.
M
I'm
also
really
glad
that
plans
are
underway
to
local
residents
to
extend
the
successful
community,
gardening
and
planting
activities
in
the
grove
to
embellish
the
closure
points
and
make
them
more
attractive,
and
hopefully
also
to
encourage
play
and
community
activities
in
the
quality'
streets.
There
is
no
easy
way
to
make
a
start
on
reducing
the
over
dominance
of
cars
in
our
neighborhoods,
as
what
happens
in
one
part
of
the
city
inevitably
does
have
some
effect
on
what
happens
in
other
parts.
M
Some
car
journeys
will
take
a
little
longer,
but,
on
the
other
hand,
walking
or
cycling
to
school,
cycling
into
town
and
generally
socializing
and
walking
around
the
roads
will
be
much
improved.
These
are
not
the
first
closure
points
to
be
introduced
in
residential
areas
in
York
residents
in
some
other
streets
are
quite
lightly
benefited
from
these
for
decades,
and
it's
only
fair
that
residents
in
the
grove
should
have
the
opportunity
to
live
without
dreams
of
idling
traffic
outside
their
doors
and
windows
on
a
daily
basis.
M
B
If
from
the
conduct
of
the
meeting,
because
that
concludes
the
public
participation
stage,
obviously
you
can
continue
to
observe
the
discussion
through
the
council
website.
If
you
wish
to
continue
to
observe.
What's
going
on
in
the
discussion
that
follows
so.
But
at
this
point,
I'd
then
moved
to
ask
ask
officers
if
they
are
able
to
respond
to
any
particular
points
that
have
been
raised,
but
also
give
some
context
for
the
report
which
we've
got
before
us.
B
C
We
may
bring
Derrick
golden
who's,
a
regeneration
manager,
but
this
stage
it's
a
transport
thing.
So,
while
they're
joining
I'll
just
do
a
bit
of
an
introduction,
so,
as
you
know,
the
regeneration
projects
at
the
Groves,
the
issue
of
traffic
cutting
through
has
been
a
theme
raised
by
residents
during
that
regeneration
program.
A
previous
decision
session.
The
principle
of
a
an
intervention
here
was
established
and,
as
you've
heard
from
the
ward
councillors,
they
request
this
be
considered
now
to
capture
some
of
the
current
reduction
in
traffic,
making
use
of
funding
offered
from
DFT.
C
The
scheme
has
been
amended
in
response
to
the
previous
consultation
and
the
report
sets
out
the
detail,
but
it's
important
to
stress
that
this
is
proposed
as
an
experimental
traffic
regulation
order
to
allow
amendment
in
response
to
concerns
that
are
raised.
I
think
the
two
points
I
would
raise
is
that
we
have
spoken
to
the
emergency
services
during
that
process
and
I'm
sure
officers
can
detail
anything
that
they
wish
from
that,
and
the
other
point
I
would
make
is
that
no
property
will
have
vehicle
access
removed.
C
It
may
require
a
slightly
different
route
and
it
may
be
a
slightly
longer
route,
but
no
vehicle,
no
property,
sorry,
is
having
vehicle
access
removed.
Whenever
we
do
these
schemes,
there's
obviously
a
diverse
range
of
views
and
not
everyone
will
be
happy
and
it's
your
source
of
job,
to
try
and
find
the
middle
ground
in
that
somewhere
and
see
if
we
have
so.
If
there
any
points
that
you
want
to
direct
to
the
specific
offices,
I'm
sure
Helen
and
the
team
will
will
answer
any
specific
questions.
I.
B
As
has
been
said,
there
are
a
lot
of
points
came
out
during
that
meeting
and
obviously
some
of
people's
views,
as
we've
heard
from
one
of
the
public
speakers,
may
have
changed
slightly
in
the
light
of
what's
happened
since
then.
We've
locked
down
but
I
think
there
were
certainly
some
some
objections
which
were
more
problematic
in
the
area
and
Penny's
Grove
streets
in
John
Street,
which,
in
the
revised
recommendations,
are
now
being
addressed.
B
C
N
Alastair
Briggs
principal
traffic
projects
officer
good
morning,
everyone,
yes,
the
following
the
council
take
initial
consultation
that
we
carried
out.
We
did
make
some
changes
that
big
position
of
one
of
the
road
closures
on
Penley
Grove
Street.
We
moved
up
slightly
further
along
the
road
and
then
put
in
a
another
closure,
it's
in
John
Crescent,
and
that
was
to
enable
oh
sorry
to
prevent
that
being
then
being
used
as
a
cut-through
in
either
direction
from
among
gates
who
lord
knows
walk.
N
N
There
were
requests
for
making
the
possible
possibility
in
making
parts
of
only
go
straight
away
and
by
putting
in
those
extra
the
extra
closure
on
st.
John's
Crescent,
we
we
feel
we
can
try
that
with
the
much
reduced
traffic
in
the
street,
there
should
be
possible
the
opportunity
for
people
to
use
a
bit
of
give
and
take
and
use
gaps
in
the
weather's,
no
parking,
the
two
like
as
a
passing
place.
N
Yes,
and
that
also
allowed
the
two-way
traffic
to
remain
on
st.
John
Street,
which
was
another
concern
that
residents
in
that
area.
Had
we
had
a
couple
of
requests
for
the
proposed
one
new
one-way
street
to
be
one
way,
except
for
cyclists
and
we'd
like
to
try
that
we
think
that
that
got
a
good
way
forward
here,
and
certainly
it
retains
links
that
have
already
been
established.
H
N
B
Junction
is
quite
close,
isn't
it
to
the
roundabouts,
an
actual
fact
in
any
case?
Yes,
it's
very,
very
close
yeah,
so
yeah,
so
as
part
of
that
would
be
sort
of
a
review
of
the
layout
Nick
as
I'm
aware,
there's
a
at
the
moment,
because
it's
such
a
popular
route
is
actually
a
right
turn
lane
for
traffic
coming
from
the
roundabouts
to
access,
Bentley's
drove
straight.
N
Yes,
that's
correct,
yeah,
with
an
experimental
scheme
you
can
change,
make
a
change
at
the
following
days
from
the
decision
to
make
the
change,
whereas
with
a
permanent
traffic
order,
you
have
to
go
through
a
length,
lengthy
consultation
period
and
decision
session
before
any
changes
can
made.
Whereas
with
the
experiment,
it's
very
rapid
and
it
allows
people
to
experience
the
the
changes
and
make
their
comments
within
that
extended
consultation
period
based
on
on
their
actual
experiences,
rather
than
perhaps
their
concerns
that
might
not
emerge.
B
And
I'm,
one
of
the
question
relates
to
the
this
revised
arrangements.
I'm
aware
of
that
there
was
a
letter
delivered
just
recently
dated
12
June.
There
was
a
letter
sent
to
occupiers
of
firm
Street
garden,
Street
George
court,
high
Newbegin
Street,
Lockwood,
Street
pen,
Negro
streets
in
John's,
crescents
and
John
Street
and
Waverly
Street,
just
to
alert
them
to
the
fact
and
that
there
was
an
adjustment
proposed
from
the
original
plan
that
was
set
out
in
February.
So
residents
in
those
streets
have
been
alerted
to
this
map,
I'm,
not
sure.
B
O
O
O
O
O
B
After
after
today,
I
assume
that
the
residence
in
on
that
actual
location
would
have
the
opportunity
to
have
a
more
detailed
discussion
about
you
know
if
it
practically
precise
location.
You
know
in
terms
of
a
few
meters
here,
one
way
or
the
other
just
so
that
that
he's
identify
made,
and
obviously
this
is
a
trial.
Then
there
is
flexibility
if
what
we
put
in
place
is
is
seem
to
not
be
the
best
location,
but
it
could
be
then
moved
a
little
bit,
the
other,
obviously
following
discussion
with
residents
and
ward
councillors.
O
O
A
B
And
the
the
work
will
start,
as
has
been
said,
because
we're
getting
extra
funding
to
put
this
in
place
very
quickly,
but
we
have
a
flexibility
to
adjust
it,
but
we
will
aim
to
get
that
moving
in
the
next
three
three
and
three
weeks
at
two
to
three
weeks
and
is
there
anything
else
officers
feel
they
need.
So
tell
me
about
that.
Conscious
that
we
haven't
asked
Derek
for
any
comments.
I,
don't
if
you've
got
any
comments,
you
want
to
had
indirect
I.
H
Am
Maria,
I
am
going
to
say,
I've
been
working
with
the
gross
residents
and
various
community
groups,
and
especially
the
degree
the
creaming
rose
initiative
is
a
great
opportunity,
a
great
opportunity
to
involve
more
and
more
residents
in
making
those
that
even
better
places.
Some
of
the
speakers
set
before
so
you
know,
we've
done
a
lot
of
planting
around
the
shops
on
La,
the
street
I've
heard
the
down
was
the
secret
garden
in
one
of
the
courtyards,
and
you
know
Sylvia
really
enthusiasm
to
carry
the
harm.
H
So
these
five
closure
points
provide
a
great
opportunity
for
people
to
come
together
and
also,
if
there's
any
concerns
about
maintenance.
You
know
they've
already,
residents
have
already
shown
the
same
enthusiasm
and
found
that
the
skills
to
I
suppose
a
voluntary
rotary
system
to
maintain
and
build
on
the
punts.
If
we,
if
we're
to
have
plungers
in
at
those
points
and
the
idea
would
be
to
to
bring
vehicle
together
in
in
the
same
ways,
we
have
it
the
international
gardener
in
Clarence,
gardens
and
other
places
and
learn
from
those
and
yeah
great
great
job.
B
That
that
yeah,
the
reason
annex
to
the
record,
which
sort
of
does
draw
attention
to
the
fact
that
you've
been
working
with
the
community
groups
and,
as
we've
said
at
the
outset,
the
actual
motivation
behind
this
came
from
the
point
of
view
of
trying
to
address
the.
What
scene
is
the
biggest
challenge
in
the
community.
O
B
Okay,
well,
obviously
need
to
take
into
account
what
displacement
there
might
be,
as
a
consequence
of
of
that,
you
can
say
that
so,
but
certainly
one
at
one
potential
advantage
of
those
works.
Apart
from
that,
obviously
the
end
product,
the
crossing
could
well
be
that
the
message
will
go
out
to
people
who
drive
through
the
area
as
a
whole
to
avoid
it
because
of
the
disruption
that's
cause
there.
B
So
you
know
hopefully
that
that's
what
as
long
as
it
doesn't
delay,
I'm
Julie
I
think
I
appreciate
that
maybe
some
preparatory
work
that
can
take
place
in
any
case,
but
obviously,
if
you've
got
to
logistical
problems
in
terms
of
staffing
working
on
one
thing
and
not
on
something
else.
I
can
appreciate
that
my
beer,
no
challenge
I,
think
the
main
main
concern
obviously
was
as
you've
heard,
from
the
speaker's
work.
We
can
certainly
one
of
the
speaker's
mentioned
they
experienced
during
lockdown
when
there
was
less
traffic.
B
B
Think
I
would
also
just
like
to
put
on
records
that,
as
we've
heard,
there
may
be
some
some
practical
details
that
do
need
to
be
resolved,
which
is
why
we
had
the
meeting
in
February
and
we
sent
letters
to
residents
to
try
and
ensure
that
we
take
every
view
into
account.
But
just
in
terms
of
context,
I.
Think,
though,
Yorkies
is
unique
and
has
lots
of
difficulties
they
don't
have
elsewhere.
This
is
an
approach
which
is
taking
place
around
the
hub
country.
What's
proposed
here.
B
Permit
for
and
also
note,
the
statement
about
the
bro
closure
points
and
working
with
the
community
to
try
and
enhance
the
appearance
of
these
closures,
who
once
had
been
established
as
to
where
they're
going
to
be
I,
think
the
point
Bert's
been
made
is
very
much
about
working
with
the
local
community
and
trying
to
understand
any
impacts
working
with
all
the
road
users
so
welcome.
The
amendments
allow
for
two-way
cycling.
That
was
one
of
the
people
I
spoke
to
at
the
February
meeting
was
very
concerned
about
their
regular
cycle
movement.
B
We
currently
use
being
potentially
closed
off
by
it
being
made
one
way
for
traffic.
So
all
of
these
all
of
these
aspects
will
be
looked
at
and
consider
carefully.
I
am
also
conscious
that
residents
in
some
of
these
streets
off
versus
John
Street
will
be
impacted
by
having
only
one
route
in
and
out,
so
that
again
will
need
to
be
monitored
and,
as
I
said,
we've
really
outs
with
the
emergency
services.
B
If
that
is
a
concern
that
can
be
addressed
in
terms
of
the
nature
of
the
closure
point
that
we
put
in
you
know,
it's
just
become
an
issue
of
concern
which
needs
to
be
addressed
so
on
that
basis,
I'm
happy
to
approve
the
recommendations
on
this
item.
Taking
note
of
all
these
objections
and
representations
that
I've
received.