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From YouTube: Planning Committee, 11 July 2019
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1. Declarations of Interest 00:04:43
2. Public Participation 00:05:32
3. Plans List 00:05:32
3a OS Fields 5475, 7267 and 8384, Moor Lane, Acomb, York [18/02687/OUTM] 00:05:32
3b Land to the North and East of Grid House, Metcalfe Lane, Osbaldwick, York [18/01778/FULM] 01:13:44
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A
I
will
just
remind
you
that
the
meeting
is
being
being
webcast
and
recorded
in
order
that
it
can
be
seen,
live
or
watched
at
a
later
date.
So
be
aware
of
that
during
the
course.
The
meeting
well
I
would
say
to
those
who
are
sitting
behind
the
other
side
of
the
camera
that
you
will
not
appear
unless
you
are
joining
us
as
a
contributor
at
some
point.
A
So
thank
you
very
much.
I've
got
quite
a
number
of
apologies
and
therefore
substitute
this
afternoon,
apologist
from
cows
that
daubeny
who's
been
substituted
by
councillor
hunter
councillor,
fencin
the
solution,
councillor
oral
Council
of
Wooderson,
the
substitute
councillor,
cuff
Matson
council
of
parrot
being
substituted
by
councillor
Navi
and
councillor
Barker,
a
substitute
councillor
Fisher.
So
thank
you
very
much
to
those
who've
acted
as
substitutes
for
this
meeting
this
afternoon.
If
you
have
a
mobile
phone
and
haven't
yet
turned
it
off
or
at
the
very
least,
to
silent.
Please
do
so.
A
We
have
no
alarm
schedule,
although
there
seem
to
have
been
a
number
of
recent
alarms
in
this
building,
so
it
might
just
happen
in
that
event,
we
will
need
to
take
it
seriously
and
evacuate.
Please
exit
by
the
routes
by
which
you
came
in
down
the
stairs
and
we
gather
outside
the
Grand,
Hotel
I
hope
sincerely.
That
doesn't
happen.
A
Likewise,
if
you
are
leaving
before
the
end
of
the
meeting
or
even
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
please
don't
disappear
through
that
door.
In
the
back
of
the
room,
you
may
never
be
seen
again.
Please
use
the
rooms
at
this
end.
You'll
see
that
that's
also
the
way
through
to
the
toilets.
Should
you
need.
A
D
Good
afternoon,
everyone
I've
been
requested
just
to
do
a
short
run-through
of
the
application
scheme.
Again
so
apologies
for
those
that
saw
it
at
the
site
visit.
So
this
is
the
site.
The
applications
are
hybrid
planning
applications.
So
it's
part
full
and
part
outline.
The
outline
element
relates
to
the
residential
development
up
here
so
effectively
that
kind
of
area
it's
for
up
to
five
hundred
and
sixteen
dwellings,
a
local
center
of
sports
pavilion
playing
fields
and
open
space.
So
there
we
go
so
I
think
local
center.
Here
some
open
space
around
their
playing
fields.
D
We
can
see.
So
all
matters
are
reserved
apart
from
details
of
the
access
points
which
fall
there
and
over
here
over
the
main
access
point
being
there.
The
full
application
is
the
section
here,
this
strip
of
land
which
assists
of
the
ecological
protection
Enhancement
zone
and
also
just
their
demolition
of
a
few
agricultural
buildings.
D
So
the
ecological
protection
Enhancement
own
or
the
e
PES
consists
of
the
attenuation
pawns
you
can
see
along
here
abundant
to
the
south,
which
is
this,
which
is
topped
with
thorny
trees,
with
three
meters
security,
fencing
there
and
fencing
on
this
side.
So
this
is
entirely
enclosed
and
not
publicly
accessible,
so
going
on
to
the
site
photo
skipped
over
one.
So
this
is
the
site
so
looking
across.
So
these
are
the
farm
buildings
here
to
be
demolished.
This
is
Marsh
farm.
D
The
land
is
very
flat:
agricultural
land,
there's,
hedges
on
field
boundaries
and
occasional
trees.
Whoops
sorry,
looking
across
here,
that's
looking
across
to
the
park
and
ride
over
there
on
there.
That's
where
we
stood
for
the
site
visit
and
the
mound
here
for
the
landfill
site.
You
can
just
see
the
very
edge
of
think
of
a
scam
bog
here
moving
on
and
then
that's
looking
back
across
a
scam
bog,
then
on
your
left
up
to
the
rise
here,
which
will
be
the
Outer
Ring
Road.
D
So
you
see
here
so
we've
got
more
lane
in
the
north
askin
bog,
triple-s
eyesight
of
Special
Scientific
Interest,
here
the
East,
Coast
Main
Line
park
and
ride,
and
then
over
this
side
the
Outer
Ring
Road
out
around
this
way.
So
the
main
issues,
the
application,
the
site
isn't
allocated
in
the
local
plan
and
therefore
falls
within
the
general
extent
of
the
Greenbelt.
It
was
considered
and
put
forward
by
the
applicant
during
the
Local
Plan
process
when
they
put
through
a
variety
of
sites.
D
This
one
here,
a
larger
site
that
continued
round
to
the
west.
But
as
as
a
result
of
concern
about
the
impact
on
the
triple-s
I
asked
am
bog.
The
site
was
dropped
in
eventually
in
2016
from
the
local
plan.
So
apart
from
the
site
being
within
the
Greenbelt,
the
other
main
issue,
the
impact
on
the
triple
si
concerns
about
the
proximity
and
scale
of
residential
development
to
the
bog
and
the
consequent
potential
for
impacts
on
hydrology
and
urban
edge
impacts,
for
instance.
D
There
have
been
a
number
of
objections
received
approximately
seven
and
a
half
thousand
in
total
six
and
a
half
thousand
of
which
came
as
in
the
form
of
a
standard
letter
from
the
Yorkshire
Wildlife
Trust.
There
were
also
a
number
of
those
which
came
and
were
individually
altered,
so
in
total
we
had
900
individual
objections,
including
those
through
the
Yorkshire
Wildlife
Trust,
and
the
main
areas
of
concern
were
the
impact
on
a
second
bog
and
the
impact
of
additional
housing
on
infrastructure,
including
schools
and
highways.
D
There
were
three
letters
of
support
in
addition,
and
they
recognized
the
need
for
housing
in
York
and
the
potential
of
the
site
being
in
a
good
location
near
to
the
highway
network.
Moving
on
to
the
updates,
there
were
a
couple
of
points
of
clarification
in
the
report
that
the
applicant
asked
me
to
address
paragraphs
three
point,
one
five
and
four
point:
three:
four
related
to
concern
raised
by
the
ecology
officer
about
how
increase
in
traffic
would
impact
on
air
quality
and
therefore
the
ecology
of
bog.
D
Paragraph
four
point:
one
three
states:
that
much
of
the
bog
is
currently
openly
accessible
with
little
restriction
between
movement
in
and
out
of
the
triple-s
site
and
to
the
fields
the
north,
so
I
think
I
was
saying
it's
quite
possible
to
walk
through
the
bog
and
out
currently
an
actual
fact,
while
I
think
the
applicant
was
making
the
point.
The
land
here
is
private.
It
feels
so
to
walk
across.
There
is
trespass,
however,
it's
quite
clear
that
people
are
using
the
land
there's
a
track
here.
That's
well
used.
D
D
The
applicants
confirmed
that,
in
terms
of
the
education
contribution,
they're
still
looking
at
that
in
terms
of
its
appropriateness
and
still
compliance
and
as
I've
already
alluded
to
highways,
have
agreed
appropriate
trip
rates
and
the
applicant
is
looking
modeling
of
various
junctions
around.
So
the
reason
for
refusal
that
we've
put
in
relation
to
highways
concerns
still
stands.
Nothing's
change
that.
A
D
No,
that's
not
that
little
offshoot
I
think
is
Bob
Lane.
If
we
just
go
back
in
fact,
you
can
see
it
from
there.
So
there's
a
little
I,
don't
know
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
redundant
leg
road.
There
forms
a
lane
when
I
call
Bob,
Lane,
so
I
think
I
must
have
been
stood
somewhere
here
and
taking,
of
course,
I
suspect.
So.
D
F
G
D
So
what
it
does
is
it
encloses?
So
this
area
of
land
here
is
entirely
enclosed
and
therefore
I
think
what
we
were
saying
is
that
currently
asking
Bob
sits
here:
there's
no
there's
no
movement
of
animals
wildlife.
This
way,
because
we've
got
these
barriers
of
the
trains
and
the
road,
and
then
we
have
the
highly
manufactured
environment
here.
The
golf
course
so
I
think
the
suggestion
is,
is
that
currently
this
is
the
only
way
for
wildlife
to
move
between
the
open
countryside,
the
wider
wider
habitats,
the
triple
si
and
clearly
putting
this
impenetrable
barrier.
D
A
F
You
very
much,
sir,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
I
promise
I
won't
make
a
habit
of
it,
but
I
have
been
fighting
development
on
this
land
ever
since
the
previous
administration
allocated
a
safeguarded
land
in
2013,
I'm
delighted
that
so
many
people
and
organizations
are
now
committed
to
protecting
this
land
from
development.
F
The
applicants
argue
that
this
site
is
suitable
for
development
because
it
was
identified
in
a
previous
draft
local
plan
and
that
sole
reason
for
deleting
the
site
was
the
imprints
of
all
decision
taken
by
City
of
York
Council,
not
to
identify
safeguarded
land
in
the
plan.
The
Local
Plan
process
has
been
a
long
one
with
many
iterations,
but
both
residents
and
developers
need
certainty
and
safeguard.
Elam
was
an
unhelpful
concept.
F
The
safeguarded
sites
are
reviewed
along
with
all
other
sites,
and
this
one
was
removed
from
the
draft
plan
because
of
the
environmental
concerns,
and
also
because
it's
not
needed
for
housing
during
the
plan
period.
Others
are
more
qualified
to
speak
on
the
effect
that
this
development
would
have
on
asking
bulk,
but
before
a
decision
is
made
on
the
proposed
measures
to
protect
the
bulk,
there
is
a
more
fundamental
question
to
answer:
is
this
land
Greenbelt
and
if
it
is,
are
there
any
very
special
circumstances
that
would
override
the
presumption
against
development?
F
The
applicants
assertion
is
that
the
site
is
Greenbelt
by
default
and
serves
very
little
Greenbelt
function.
I
think
that's
breathtaking
arrogant
and
just
plain
wrong.
The
site
is,
within
the
Grenier
extent
of
the
Greenbelt,
as
defined
in
the
saved
policies
of
the
auction
Humberside
regional
spatial
strategy
and
in
the
absence
of
an
adopted
local
plan.
That
is
the
policy
that
this
needs
to
be
considered
against
the
route.
Draft
local
plan
does
assess
the
site
as
fulfilling
a
Greenbelt
function.
F
Historic
England
says
that
the
site
is
an
important
part
of
the
landscape
setting
of
a
city
that
development
would
undermine.
The
primary
purpose
of
the
your
Greenbelt
failed
to
preserve
the
special
character
and
setting
of
the
historic
City
of
York
I
do
believe
that
the
site
fulfills
two
important
Greenbelt
roles,
namely
preserving
the
setting
and
special
character
historic
towns
and
preventing
neighboring
towns
from
merging
into
one
another,
as
outlined
in
the
report,
marlane,
creates
a
very
definite
edge
to
the
suburban
area.
F
A
residents
would
view
any
extension
south
of
the
road
as
urban
sprawl,
and
this
is
not
a
site.
That's
either
derelict
nor
urban
and
therefore
has
no
need
to
be
recycled.
Residents
are
quite
happy
with
it
as
it
is.
This
is
a
very
open
site
and
there
will
be
a
substantial
number
of
engineering
operations
needed
to
develop.
Deliver
any
development.
The
attenuation
ponds
play
area's
access
points,
bundle,
fencing
would
all
be
alien
elements.
The
proposed
bond
is
up
to
3.5
meters,
high
and
30
seconds.
Six
point:
one
meter
wide
with
trees.
F
F
I
urge
you
to
support
the
officer
recommendation
to
refuse
this
application,
because
the
harm
to
the
Greenbelt
through
an
appropriateness
harm
to
openness
and
to
the
purposes
of
the
including
land
within
the
Greenbelt
and
to
they
identified
harm
to
us,
can
Bach
sssi
as
a
result
of
the
scale
form
and
proximity
of
the
repose
development.
Thank
you
very
long.
Is
it.
A
Please
don't
leave
the
table.
It
may
be
that
members
have
questions
they
want
to
put
to
you
know.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Our
second
speaker
is
Michael
Thornton,
who
speaks
both
as
Secretary
of
friends
of
hob
Moore
and
the
secretary
of
the
drink
houses
of
residents
planning
panel
and
again
you
have
three
minutes
so
I'll
just
give
you
a
30-second
warning.
A
H
You
friends
have
had
more
concern
about
the
potential
impact
of
the
water
cause
from
asking
Bob
that
services
hob
or
any
alteration
to
the
this
water
course
could
affect
of
more
change
of
the
ecology
of
the
hub
more.
There
has
been
large
housing
developments
in
the
ward,
including
wood,
Thorpe,
Miller
fog,
drive
area
and
laterally
house
building
on
the
Technical
College
site.
Further
developments
also
planted
on
the
old
Tesco
car
park,
there's
been
not
there
hasn't
been
a
corresponding
increase
in
the
local
infrastructure.
H
I
mean
access
to
Europe
from
this
area
remains
the
old
hay
64
because
of
the
nature
of
this
road
there's
little
opportunity
to
improve
the
road.
This
development
could
put
an
additional
six
or
eight
hundred
cars
on
the
road
in
the
ward.
At
any
time
when
the
council
are
looking
to
improve
air
quality
in
the
city,
the
development
of
York
College
Tesco
ask
embark
on
traces,
brings
significant
amount
of
traffic
into
the
area.
Large
numbers
of
vehicles,
traveled
hammer
lane
of
childhood
Road
to
the
College
Tesco's,
leading
to
a
lot
of
congestion.
H
This
development
does
not
provide
for
any
health
service
provision
of
doctors
or
dentists.
Surgeries
to
cope
with
the
residents
of
the
516
houses,
local
medical
provision
is
full
Boulton.
Terrace
surgery,
which
covers
a
significant
part
of
the
ward,
is
full
and
able
to
take
further
patients.
The
doctor
and
dentist
provision
would
Thorpe
operates
from
two
small.
Seventy
Dutch
houses
with
little
parking
available,
which
causes
problems
on
a
narrow
road.
That's
a
major
bus
route.
Primary
schools
in
the
world
think
house
in
one
thought
are
not
able
to
be
extended.
H
Their
fully
developed
secondary
provision
locally
is
nearly
full.
This
application
does
not
provide
for
education
of
the
children
from
the
560
resonances.
So,
in
summary,
our
objections
are
the
development
will
produce
additional
traffic
down
the
lane
and
the
64
interior
of
which
will
result
in
further
pollution
and
poor
air
quality.
The
requirements
for
medical
centers
is
not
dealt
with
by
the
proposed
from
the
local
provision
will
not
be
able
to
cope
with
the
increased
demand.
Education
provision
is
not
dealt
with
in
this
application.
Existing
schools
in
the
area
cannot
cope
with
additional
demand.
H
The
potential
threat
to
the
water
cost
or
the
potential
damage
to
a
second
bob
is
a
result
of
the
size
nature
of
this
development
also
concerned
with
local
residents.
If
a
lot
of
this
development
will
produce
problems
of
traffic
medical
provision,
education
provision
that
would
be
left
to
the
council
to
sort
out
30
seconds,
the
friends
have
got
more
and
drink
houses
in
peril
which
to
eject
to
this
development,
and
we
would
support
the
objections
of
the
city
planners
and
recommend
refusal.
The
application.
A
A
I
I've
been
timing
it,
hopefully
it
will
be
three
minutes
good.
Thank
you.
Yorkshire
wildlife
trust
strongly
supports
the
authority's
recommendation
that
this
application
is
refused
and
urges
the
committee
to
accept
this
conclusion.
The
application
site
is
adjacent
to
a
scam
bog,
Nature
Reserve.
The
1st
reserve
of
Yorkshire
Wildlife
Trust,
which
was
gifted
to
the
trust
by
the
Terry
and
Roundtree
families
in
1946
goes
back
a
long
way.
I
The
trust
objected
to
the
inclusion
of
this
site
as
land
safeguarded
for
future
development
in
the
local
plan
and
consultation
in
September
2014,
the
site
was
not
included
for
development
in
the
consultation
in
2016
as
the
risk
of
damage
to
ask
Hamburg
SSI,
who
was
assessed
as
too
great.
The
developers
have
not
shown
in
this
application
that
damage
to
ask
him
bog
can
be
avoided.
This
development
is
extremely
unpopular
with
the
people
of
Europe,
as
you've
already
heard.
Over
7,000
objections
were
received
in
just
three
letters
of
support.
I
Development
of
the
site
will
be
contrary
to
many.
Your
planning
policies
from
policy,
SS
1,
sustainable
growth,
assessed
to
greenbelt
and
env
1,
&,
4
and
D
2,
landscape
and
setting
the
site
is
not
allocated
for
housing
in
the
emerging
local
plan
and
the
development
will
read,
lead
to
increased
traffic
and
reduced
air
quality.
I
National
policy
also
supports
refusal
of
this
application.
Paragraph
one,
seven,
five
of
the
national
planning
policy
framework
or
NPP
F
states
that
development
resulting
in
the
loss
or
deterioration
of
irreplaceable
habitats
should
be
refused
unless
there
are
wholly
exceptional
reasons
and
a
suitable
compensation
strategy
exists.
A
scam
book
contains
lowland
Fenn,
which
is
one
of
the
defined
habitats
in
the
NPP
F,
which
is
irreplaceable,
as
defined
in
the
NPP
F.
There
are
no
wholly
exceptional
reasons
for
giving
planning
permission
for
this
application
and
a
suitable
compensation
strategy
is
not
possible
and
is
quite
important.
I
It
cannot
be,
cannot
take
place.
The
wildlife
for
a
scam
bug
depends
on
the
bug
remaining
wet.
A
development
will
change
the
water
balance
and
risk
drying
out.
The
sssi
both
are
report
by
jb,
a
consulting
and
the
authority's
own
report
by
Mott
MacDonald
show
that
the
applicants
assessment
of
hydrological
impacts
is
flawed.
There
will
be
further
impacts
on
asking
bogged
due
to
damage
and
disturbance.
I
Ironically,
were
the
developers
barrier
to
be
successful
in
its
aim.
It
would
make
another
problem
worse
because
it
would
isolate
the
reserve
from
the
wider
countryside,
preventing
plants
and
animals
moving
in
and
out
at
30
seconds.
Asking
bug
is
an
exceptional
place
and
an
integral
part
of
York's
heritage
visited
by
and
hugely
valued
by
very
many
people,
as
shown
by
the
public
response
to
this
application.
York
is
fortunate
to
have
such
a
special
place
within
its
boundaries,
and
it
should
not
contemplate
the
risk
that
this
application
represents
your
needs
houses,
but
not
here
to
build.
G
I
Professor
Alistair
fitter
can
probably
tell
it
tell
you
a
bit
more
about
that,
but
the
thing
is
that
it's
it's
well,
it's
yeah.
You
asked
him
as
well,
because
he'll
have
another
approach,
but
it's
taken
about
fifteen
thousand
years
to
develop.
There
has
never
been
a
Greek
Archer
or
in
the
industry
or
people
living
on
on
the
bog,
partly
because
it's
a
bog
and
if
you
change
the
hydrology,
we
can't
actually
predict
what's
going
to
happen
in
a
few
hundred
years.
I
You
know
you
just
really
really
don't
know
it
would
likely
be
a
very
slow
deterioration
or
it
could
be
quick
I
mean
with
climate
change.
You
know
that
adds
an
extra
complication
into
the
mix
and
the
other
thing
is
with
people
coming.
You
know
living
nearby,
you
can
get
dumping
of
plants
from
gardens.
That
happens
quite
a
lot,
which
then
would
could
out-compete
what
we've
got
there
already
all
those
sorts
of
things,
dogs,
cats
etc.
It's
you
know
it's
just
unknown
really,
but
obviously
there
would
be
impact.
A
J
You
for
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
you
I,
want
to
really
emphasize
and
flesh
out
some
of
the
points
that
Sara's
already
made.
I
want
to
point
out
you
that
the
site
is
exceptional.
It
is
one
of
the
gems
of
the
UK
wildlife
scene.
It's
an
extraordinary
sight,
but
damp
development
would
be
damaging
for
the
reason
we've
already
heard
that
it
would
cause
the
problem
with
disturbance.
J
The
isolation
is
a
serious
issue
because,
and
those
two
can't
be
finished,
if
you
solve
the
problem
of
disturbance
with
the
impenetrable
barrier,
you
create
the
problem
of
isolation
and
the
need
to
stop
the
isolation
of
wildlife
sites
from
the
water
country.
Sized
part
of
government
policy.
It's
in
the
25
year.
J
You
heard
that
okay,
fine,
and
so
it's
it's
a
set.
It
is,
if
you've
been
possible
to
achieve
a
solution
to
both
those
problems.
At
the
same
time,
by
solving
one
you
create
the
other,
but
critically
it
will
correct.
It
will
lead
to
drying
out
and
I'll
say
a
bit
more
about
that.
I
want
to
emphasize
that
the
habitats
have
asked
about
meet
all
the
criteria
about
irreplaceable
'ti
in
the
NPP
effort.
Ours
talked
about
their
antiquity.
J
They
are
ancient
but
they're,
also
exceptionally
complex
and
rich
in
species,
the
the
rare
species
total
and
list
a
task
and
bog
is
quite
a
quite
remarkable
it
can.
It
is
for
its
size,
the
richest
place
for
plant
species
and
that's
what
we
have
the
data
for
for
comparative
purposes
in
Yorkshire.
It
is
a
biodiversity
hotspot.
It's
almost
certainly
true
of
the
other
groups
of
organisms
there
too.
It's
just
that
we
don't
have
a
comparative
data,
so
you
can't
make
that
point
clearly,
but
it
is
an
exceptional
place.
J
The
the
population
of
the
names
may
not
mean
much
to
you,
but
the
population
of
gingerbread
sedge,
which
is
increasing
rapidly
at
the
moment.
Thanks
to
the
careful
management
by
the
Wildlife,
Trust
is
the
largest
in
England
by
a
very
long
way,
and
if
you
have
not
been
there,
you
need
to
see
the
giant
world
ferns.
The
largest
Royal
ferns
are
three
and
a
half
meters
high
eight
meters
around,
and
they
are
probably
the
oldest
living
things
in
York,
which
is
pretty
extraordinary
that
to
have
this
within
the
Ring.
Road
is
quite
remarkable.
J
The
survival
of
that
site
depends
critically
on
a
high
water
table.
Any
loss
of
we've
already
seen
damage
due
to
the
fact
that
there
is
drainage
out
on
the
north
side,
and
some
parts
on
the
north
side
are
already
damaged
by,
but
there
have
been
active
management
to
try
to
overcome
that
problem,
30
seconds
so,
and
the
it
is
quite
clear
from
the
various
reports
that
have
been
issued,
that
the
conclusions
of
the
developers
are
incorrect
in
our
hydrology.
J
In
fact,
the
Mott
MacDonald,
commissioned
by
the
council
specifically
says
that
the
ywt
report
offers
a
more
detailed,
newest
and
justified
picture
of
the
hydrology
Alaskan
bog.
Finally,
Kyle
mentioned
climate
change.
Climate
change
is
going
to
exacerbate
these
problems.
I'd
also
point
out,
but
asking
bob
contains
a
store
around
40,000
tonnes
of
carbon,
which
is
at
risk
if
it's
allowed
to
dry
out
it
survived
for
15,000
years.
I
would
urge
you
not
to
take
any
risks.
Thank.
A
J
So
there
are
two
aspects
of
this:
one
is
the
importance
of
the
site
is
exceptionally
rich
in
species,
and
it
contains
many
very
rare
species.
I
mentioned
plants
so
they're
out
there
are
rare
insects
there
as
well
species
which
are
found
there
only
one
or
two
other
places
in
the
country.
So
it's
it
is
exception
in
the
complexity
of
other
habitats
and
the
richness
of
the
habitats.
In
that
way,
the
threat
is
that
it
will
dry
out
now.
This
is
a
site
on
Pete.
J
J
Here
it's
why
york's,
where
it
is
york's,
where
it
is
because
the
grassy
of
the
river
cuts,
the
gracia
and
the
romans
realized
that
that
by
building
a
site
there
they
controlled
the
north
of
england
and
that
the
moraine
had
the
ripped,
the
road
on
along
it,
but
that
site
was
was
originally
a
lake.
It
filled
in
you
could
not
do
anything
about
creating
that
column
of
peat
and
other
deposits.
That
would
be
impotency.
It
takes
approximately
a
thousand
years
to
create
a
metre
of
peat.
J
There
is
no
way
you
could
do
that,
if
you
tried
to
say
will
because
will
create
some
other
habitat
nearby.
You
would
have
to
wait
thousands
of
years
to
get
anything
even
comparable,
because
you'd
have
to
start
with
open
water,
allow
it
to
develop
through
peat
fill
in
and
so
on,
so
forth
and
and
actually
to
reflect
the
extract,
sexually
complex
history
of
this
cycle.
It
was
used
by
the
people
of
york
over
hundreds
of
years.
J
They
cut
peat
there
and
there
are
documentary
records
of
that
in
the
court
roles
of
the
acre,
Manor
and
I've
asked
them
brown
as
well.
So
this
is
a
site
which
has
had
this
complex
interaction
with
people
and
with
the
environment.
Over
many
thousands
of
years,
there's
I
mean
it
would
be
a
completely
impossible
task.
It
is
probably
the
most
irreplaceable
places
you
could
imagine.
G
A
Think
your
questions
been
answered,
yes,
but
there
may
be
other
questions
I'm
still
looking
around
the
table.
No,
no,
the
questions.
Thank
you
very
much,
professor,
thank
you
and
then
another
speaker
for
the
crow
of
tremendous
York
against
speaking
in
objection
and
mr.
crow.
Again,
as
you
realize,
just
three
minutes,
I'll
give
you
a
warning.
K
Thank
You
chair
I
represent
tremendous
York,
which
is
we
regard
ourselves
as
being
York
yup
Street
champions.
We
submitted
details,
objections
to
this
scheme
based
on
planning
criteria
in
January
this
year,
views
into
and
out
of
the
site,
the
integrity
of
the
draft
green
bells
and
setting
of
the
city,
the
results
of
increased
traffic
and
the
possible
adverse
effects
on
us
can
bog
and
biodiversity
in
general
are
of
major
concern
to
residents
and
observers
and
are
well
covered
by
others
objecting
to
the
proposals.
K
There
is
a
viable
alternative
use
to
the
site,
which
would
compensate
for
the
loss
of
agricultural
and
bring
an
economic
return
to
the
applicants
and
satisfy
objectors.
Our
suggestion
is
to
promote
the
site
as
York's.
First
major
contribution
to
the
northern
forest
initiative,
which
runs
from
Liverpool
to
whole,
to
which
York
Council
has
already
signed
up
by
turning
the
land
over
to
commercial
woodland.
K
Recent
research
by
Seville's
indicates
that
well-managed
forestry
could
well
be
the
stand-out
rural
investment
over
the
medium
to
long
term.
This
is
a
30
hectare
or
hundred
acre
site
when
one
considers
the
land
value
uplift
of
from
six
to
eight
thousand
pounds
per
acre
as
agricultural
land.
To
many
hundreds
of
thousands
with
planning
consent
who
returns
from
forestry
might
seem
full
value.
We
do
not
agree,
although
we
acknowledge
that
this
may
not
be
a
planning
consideration.
K
So
you
Mendes,
you're,
supported
by
the
council,
is
committed
to
promoting
tree
planting
whatever
we
can
and
has
been
involved
in
planting
of
well
over
25,000
trees
and
many
meters
of
hedgerow.
Since
our
organization
was
formed
in
2011,
the
benefits
of
tree
planting
are
well
known
and
I'm
sure
that
committee
members
are
well
aware
of
them.
There
is
a
compelling
case
for
rejection
of
this
application,
which
we
outlined
in
our
detailed
objections.
K
If
the
landowners
insist
on
replacing
agricultural
use
with
some
form
of
development,
we
suggest
that
there
is
a
viable
alternative
use
for
the
site,
which
would
be
of
great
public
benefit
and
would
receive
widespread
public
support.
We
urge
the
applicants
to
withdraw
this
application
to
allow
for
further
consideration
of
the
options
available
to
them.
Meanwhile,
the
application
must
be
refused.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
was
about
to
say
30
seconds,
but
you've
been
a
little
less
than
three
minutes.
That's
fine!
Thank
you
very
much
again.
It
may
be
bitter
questions,
so
wait
for
a
moment.
Are
there
any
questions?
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
You,
mr.
crow
and
then
councillor
Fenton,
a
ward
councillor.
L
Thank
You
chair
I'll,
try
to
keep
my
remarks
brief
and
not
repeat
points
others
have
made.
Please
also
set.
My
apologies
I'll
need
to
leave
before
the
end
is
it's
our
ward
committee
meeting
tonight
at
a
recent
planning
committee
meeting
I
said
that
your
faces
at
housing
crisis?
That
is
the
case
and
that's
why
administration's
of
all
political
colors
have
worked
to
develop
a
local
plan.
The
current
iteration,
of
which
I
hope
will
be
adopted
very
soon
key
to
the
viability
of
a
local
plan
is
to
identify
suitable
sites
for
development.
L
L
The
impact
on
local
transport
infrastructure
is
one
of
a
number
of
issues
that
have
caused
concern
locally.
The
report
notes
of
the
proposed
trip
rate
used
to
assess
the
level
of
additional
traffic
likely
to
be
created
by
the
proposed
development
is
not
acceptable,
and
we
heard
the
officer
say
earlier
that
even
the
revised
trip
rates
have
been
provided
still
still
unacceptable.
L
Anyone
who
is
familiar
with
the
area
around
a
second
bar
and
your
college
will
be
familiar
with
the
chronic
congestion
that
is
often
experienced
here.
Throwing
more
traffic
into
this
system
will
make
a
bad
situation
worse
with
buses
becoming
less
reliable
as
they
crawl
at
snail's
pace
and
with
air
quality
worsening
as
more
vehicles.
It
idling
impact
on
local
services
is
another
concern,
and
the
report
notes.
L
The
report
does
also
know
that
the
applicant
has
thus
far
failed
to
confirm
their
agreement
to
this
payment,
and
so
the
proposal
fails
to
comply
with
the
relevant
policy,
as
the
impact
of
the
development
on
existing
educational
facilities
is
not
mitigated
thirty
seconds.
So
these
and
the
many
of
the
reasons
eloquently
put
forward
by
other
speakers
who
care
passionately
passionately
about
this
unique
landscape,
our
dose
the
committee
to
support
the
officers
recommendation
and
refuse
the
application.
L
A
A
Thank
you.
Finally,
our
last
speaker,
Gary
Holman,
who
is
an
agent
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
applicants
and
I've
already
indicated
to
him.
I,
will
be
a
little
lenient
with
the
three
minutes,
given
that
we've
heard
a
number
of
objections
and
you're
the
only
speaker
who's
speaking
as
it
were
in
support
of
this
application,
so
I
will
be
a
little
lenient,
but
I
I
won't
be
too
lenient.
M
Well,
thank
you
chairman
and
by
my
clock,
it's
just
been
under
18
minutes
that
the
objectors
have
been
out
to
speak
for
without
the
Q&A
session.
So
who
would
allow
me
a
little
bit
of
flexibility?
I'd
be
most
grateful.
I
do
agree
with
councillor
Fenton
and
what
he
has
just
said.
York
is
in
a
housing
crisis.
M
Research
showed
last
year
that
York
was
the
only
city
in
the
north
of
England,
where
that
was
big
pie
was
one
of
the
top
20
least
affordable
cities
in
in
England,
and
they
only
want
in
the
north
of
England
average
house.
Prices
are
more
than
ten
times
average
salaries.
There
is
a
massive,
affordable
housing
need
with
a
net
deficit
of
nearly
six
hundred
affordable
homes
a
year
and
the
North
Yorkshire
home
choice.
M
Your
councils,
housing
partner,
says
that
most
people
applying
for
affordable
social
homes
will
need
to
wait
for
more
than
three
years
on
the
waiting
list
and
about
a
third
of
the
people
on
the
waiting
list
won't
get
a
home
offered
to
them
at
all
and,
as
I
think,
you
acknowledge
as
a
council.
The
minimum
five-year
housing
land
supply
is
currently
woefully
inadequate,
so
this
site
has
a
very
significant
benefit
members
in
that
it
can
deliver
more
than
500
houses,
of
which
35%
that's
in
excess
of
the
council's
policy.
M
Requirements
will
be
affordable
and
it
can
deliver
those
quickly.
That
is
a
very
significant
benefit.
It
was
identified
originally
in
2013
and
14
as
a
draft
housing
site
and
afraid
and
read-
isn't
correct.
It
was.
It
was
not
taken
forward
subsequently,
not
because
it
fulfills
a
Greenbelt
purpose,
but
because
of
concerns
at
that
time,
about
the
impact
on
the
bulk
and
I
recognise
those
concerns.
M
The
mix
of
housing
is
for
determination
later
on.
It
could
include
that
for
elderly
persons
and
bungalows,
as
requested
by
one
of
your
officers
and
in
terms
of
the
open
space
provision
again,
the
council's
plan
identifies
a
significant
shortfall
in
recreation
and
open
space,
including
formal
pitches
within
this
Ward
and
the
site
offers
more
than
35
acres,
formal
and
informal
recreation
provision
which
will
contribute
significantly
to
that
shortfall.
M
Just
turning
to
the
perhaps
key
issue
here
in
terms
of
impact
on
the
bog,
we
clearly
have
a
difference
of
opinion
on
that.
The
experts
and
there's
been
a
number
of
them
spoken
today,
are
very
concerned
about
the
impact
on
the
bog.
My
clients
have
commissioned
their
own
technical
studies,
which
have
been
appraised,
but
importantly,
they've
also
been
peer,
reviewed
by
the
wild
fowl
and
wetlands
trust
at
Slimbridge,
who
confirmed
that
they
are
a
robust
means
to
test
the
hydrology
and
the
impacts
on
the
bog.
M
We
have
a
difference
in
the
opinion
that
I'm
afraid
that's
probably
not
going
to
be
resolved
today,
but
my
clients
are
very
confident
that
the
analysis
that
they
have
commissioned
and
the
independent
scrutiny
which
they've
subjected
that
to
is
robust
and
I.
Don't
think.
There's
any
suggestion,
therefore,
and
that
we
we
dispute
that
there's
any
risks
the
bog
or
that
it
will
dry
out
what
might
make
the
bog
drier
if
you
planted
hundred
acres
of
trees
right
next
to
it.
But
there
is
no
prospect
of
the
bog
drying
out.
M
In
fact,
there
are
some
benefits
from
abar
diversity
point
of
view,
because
the
means
by
which
will
protect
the
bog
will
also
protect
runoff
from
agricultural
fields
and
nitrates
entry
into
this
sensitive
area.
So
there
are
some
net
benefits
that
we
would
argue
are
conclude
chairman
by
saying
that
this
is
a
sustainable
site,
we're
quite
happy
to
agree
an
appropriate
and
mechanism
for
educational
provision
and
contributions
in
the
area.
It's
well
connected
with
public
transport.
M
There
are
some
good
local
facilities
and
we
would
enhance
those
with
a
local
center
and
its
development
for
housing
in
this
area
and
recreation
and
open
space
provision
in
other
parts
of
the
site
can
all
be
achieved
without
harm
to
greenbelt
purposes.
There
is
members
a
desperate,
a
desperate
need
for
more
housing
in
York,
both
open
market
and
affordable,
and
this
proposal
can
deliver
both
of
those
quickly.
There
is
no
certainty,
I'm
afraid
where,
when
your
local
plan
will
be
adopted,
it's
been
moving
extremely
slowly.
M
N
N
N
Six
nine
yep
he's
taken.
There
were
very
special
circumstances
due
to
the
fact
that
the
council
was
rejected,
GL
Hearn
zybax
since
that
point
in
2018
the
ONS
figures
were
released
jail
then
provided
an
update
in
terms
of
that
which
gave
the
new
figure
of
790.
Would
you
therefore
accept
that
entire
paragraph
is
irrelevant
now
well,.
M
I,
wouldn't
under
a
callously,
it
was
obviously
current
at
the
time
it
was
written
when
the
new
data
hadn't
come
out.
We
have
considered
the
new
data
and
also
the
council
is
currently
consulting
on
its
local
plan,
including
the
housing
need
figures
until
later
this
month.
Our
latest
analysis
shows
that
still
that
figure
is
understated,
and
we
and
I
know
many
others
will
be
making
representations
to
the
plan
to
object
to
the
reduced
housing
figure.
So
I'm
afraid
there
is
still
a
live
issue
which
is
going
to
be
only
resolved
through
the
local.
M
N
M
Accept
it,
but
the
problem
is
where
that
contains.
The
details
of
analysis
is
that
the
oen
figure
as
put
forward,
does
not
a
trust
for
affordability
and
it
needs
to
make
an
adjustment
for
affordability.
It's
the
basic
core
figures.
You
then
adjust
those
to
deal
with
affordability.
This
council
has
chosen
not
to
do
that
and,
as
a
result,
the
affordability
crisis
will
not
be
addressed
by
the
amount
of
housing
which
is
being
proposed
in
the
local
plant
follow-up.
N
Question
on
that
woman,
as
I've
read
the
jail
here
in
the
port
in
quite
depth,
and
it
states
quite
categorically
the
affordability
crisis.
The
affordability
issue
in
terms
of
the
numbers
cannot
be
delivered
to
that
plan.
It
simply
is
not
possible.
The
numbers
are
nearly
500
per
annum,
which
will
require
nearly
2,000
houses
a
year
being
built
which
is
just
not
feasible.
So
I.
M
Can
do
that
and
I'm
not
suggesting
you
can
meet
in
full
the
affordable
housing
this
this
local
plan,
it's
going
to
try
and
address
the
housing
crisis
that
you're
in,
but
it's
a
plan
which
is
trying
to
address
generations
of
housing.
There's
problems
that
have
been
built
built
up
in
the
city,
and
it's
not
there
to
do
that.
So
there
will
remain
a
level
of
affordable
housing
needs
that
you
simply
can't
meet,
and
the
plan
acknowledges
that
what
I'm
saying
is
that
it
should
endeavour
to
meet
as
much
of
it
as
it
possibly
can.
N
For
that
one,
the
next
paragraph
paragraph
four
point:
seven
refers
to
the
the
appeal
against
a
bond
drive
four
point:
seven,
a
very
next
paragraph,
yep,
that's
a
plan
to
deny
sat
on
as
the
committee
and
I.
I
strongly
recall
the
applicant
at
that
point,
marching
out
to
the
building
saying
that
we
didn't
know
what
we
were
doing
and
he
was
confident
he
would
win
that
appeal.
What
was
the
results
of
that
appeal?.
M
You're
quite
right,
I
recall
it
now
and
essentially
there
were
Heritage
issues
from
memory
in
that
particular
case
or
landscape
issues
that
were
were
factors
that
were
not
overridden
by
the
housing.
Wasn't
my
point
of
including
this
Mike.
One
concluding
this
was
simply
to
demonstrate
the
housing
land
supply
position,
because
the
council
doesn't
have
a
published
position
on
its
own
housing
land
supply
at
the
moment.
So
we
rely
upon
inspectors,
decisions
to
tell
us
how
much
housing
land
exists.
Only
and
that's
that's
I'm
afraid.
That's
the
sad
reality
of
the
situation.
M
N
Mother
final
parties
on
the
update,
so
the
update
said
to
us
that
the
applicant
has
confirmed
that
they
are
still
considering
the
required
education
contribution
in
terms
of
its
appropriate
appropriateness
and
sill
compliance.
I
read
that
as
you
don't
believe
that
you
are
required
to
provide
an
educational
contribution.
Is
that
the
position
or
is
the
arguments,
the
amounts?
It's.
M
It's
the
amount
counselor,
so
it's
just
a
we're
having
an
expert
analyze,
the
calculations
that
inform
the
Education
Department's
request
and
it's
a
significant
amount
of
money.
Three
and
a
half
million
pounds
at
this
stage,
I'm,
not
able
to
say
that
that
is
agreed,
but
I
can
say
that
the
principle
of
an
education
contribution
is
accepted.
Is
the
contem?
That's
a
term,
it
is
being
debated.
Do.
N
G
Order
and
chair
the
committee
of
I
think
it
was
actually
last
year
did
not
approve.
We
were
asked
to
give
an
indication
in
principle
for
a
matter
that
was
going
to
the
thank
you
for
an
appeal.
We
gave
an
opinion
in
principle.
We
did
not
approve
a
panel
application
and
just
wanted
to
clarify
my
own
firm
that
with
you
I.
M
Think
you
killed
my
language
was
slightly
loose.
I
completely,
acknowledge
that
you,
the
committee,
wasn't
able
to
grant
permission
because
the
appeal
has
been
lodged
against
an
on
determination,
so
the
application
isn't
for
the
council
to
determine
it's
going
to
appeal.
But
that's
the
council's
resolved
position
on
the
Appeals
Council
official.
A
C
Thank
you.
You
said
that
senior
last
very
last
thing
you
said
was
about
benefit.
You
would
benefit
biodiversity
by
preventing
nitrates
entering
the
site.
Now
nitrates
tend
to
come
from
two
main
sources.
Only
some
storage
and
the
other
is
some
fertilizers
they're,
also
extremely
soluble
in
water.
Can
you
explain
how,
since
Mott
MacDonald
had
clearly
identified
that
it's
ground
water
flow
from
the
higher
land
towards
more
lane
that
feeds
the
bog?
How
are
you
going
to
that's
not
intersect
the
ground
water,
to
prevent
the
bot
from
drying
out
yet
somehow
magically
keep
these
nitrates
out.
M
C
P
You
say:
there's
a
difference
of
opinion
between
yourselves
and
the
yorkshire,
wildlife,
trust
and
Mott
MacDonald
in
the
report
in
front
of
us
paragraph
4.25,
it's
rather
more
than
a
difference
of
opinion.
It
says
that
you
have
misrepresented
the
hydrological
system,
alaskan
bog
in
relation
to
the
groundwater
connectivity
between
the
site
and
the
bog,
and
that's
quite
a
serious
charge.
How
do
you
answer
that
charge?
P
M
Just
to
say,
we
don't
agree
with
that.
Counselor
I
mean
that's
the
view
of
the
the
officer.
That's
it's
written
this
or
is
representing
the
views
of
others,
I'm
afraid.
That
is
not
our
position.
We,
you
know
there
are
professional
people
that
have
carried
out
the
work
in
good
faith
and,
more
importantly,
perhaps
it's
been
independently
peer
reviewed
by
the
wild
fowl
and
wetlands
trust,
a
reputable
body
and
an
independent
body.
That's
scrutinized
it
and
I'm
afraid.
That's
the
point
of
difference
between
us,
so
we
certainly
haven't
misrepresented
anything.
It's
been
detail.
M
A
Q
Thank
You,
chair,
I,
think
I've,
never
quite
seen
so
many
listed
points
of
concerns
and
in
one
single
planning
application.
As
this
seven
and
a
half
pages
of
bullet
points,
if,
in
essence,
now
I
appreciate
that
there's
varying
levels
of
planning
planning
law
that
could
be
attached
to
some
of
these,
but
certainly
green
bells,
and
the
effect
on
asking
bogus
are
certainly
the
major
major
points
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
with
this
application
and
with
a
lack
of
evidence
to
suggest
that
the
development
would
not
have
an
adverse
effect
on
our
second
bog.
Q
N
N
It's
not
the
case
of
as
the
agent
said
that
we
approved
something
last
week,
so
we
have
to
repeal
something
this
week,
it's
a
case-by-case
basis
and
it's
an
argument
around
those
very
special
circumstances
and
that's
why
I
looked
in
detail
of
the
very
special
circumstances
that
were
there
and
I
think.
As
my
questioning
of
the
agent
said,
the
housing
figures
that
we've
been
presented
with
are
years
out
of
date
and
don't
reflect
the
current
position
within
the
city,
we're
required
to
reflect
on
the
on
the
LAN
as
it
as
it
is.
N
That's
the
role
of
this
of
this
Authority
and
the
OEM
is,
as
it
is,
I
take
the
agents
point
that
he
doesn't
agree
with
the
assessment
of
the
LAN
and
there
is
a
process
for
dealing
with
that,
and
that
is
the
Local
Plan
process
and
if
they
do
disagree
with
that
and
believe
that
figure
should
be
higher.
The
correct
method
is
to
challenge
that,
with
the
planning
inspector
through
the
Local
Plan
process
and
if
successful
and
that
way
only
shifted,
then
there
is
a
case
for
then
starting
to
bring
forward
additional
sites.
N
It's
not
for
this
planning
committee
to
do
that.
The
second
part,
the
very
special
circumstances
I
looked
at-
was
that
specific
reference
to
a
bond
drive
in
the
use
of
the
five-year,
the
lack
of
a
five-year
housing
supply,
which
is
something
that's
often
Foner's
and
I-
think
a
Vaughn
drive
for
this
Authority
was
a
very
important
decision,
as
that
was
a
one
key
moment
where
that
five-year
land
supply
was
really
tested,
and
the
planning
inspector
was
quite
clear.
That
was
not
sufficient
grounds
to
to
override
special
circumstances
on
the
Greenbelt.
N
I
won't
go
into
detail
about
the
harm
on
us.
Can
bog
SSS,
I
I
was
troubled,
saying
that
in
my
ears
and
the
local
plan,
working
group
I
think
the
speakers
we've
had
today
know
far
more
than
I
do
around
around
this.
As
do
the
submissions
that
we've
had
I
think
it's
very
clear
from
all
the
evidence
we've
had
that
there
would
be
harm
and
I
got
very
interviewed
with
it
comes
back
concept.
Sort
of
catch-22
of
you
can
solve
one
problem,
but
you
just
create
another
problem
and
there
is
no
way
I.
G
Thank
You,
chair
I,
would
agree
with
the
speaker
in
support
of
this
application.
Yes,
we
do
have
a
housing
crisis,
we
also
have
an
environmental
crisis
and
we,
as
councillors,
members
of
this
planning
committee,
are
here
for
a
very
short
time,
we're
here
on
this
on
this
earth
for
a
very
short
time
and
we've
heard
from
Professor
fitter,
who
gave
us
a
very
potted
lecture
on
the
development
of
this
site.
Just
how
important
it
is
both
to
York
its
impact
on
carbon
capture
and.
G
R
Would
certainly
agree
with
the
applicants
that
there
is
a
housing
crisis
in
New,
York
I
think
there's
no
other
way
to
describe
it
other
than
a
crisis,
and
that
is
particularly
in
the
need
for
more
affordable
housing.
So
I
would
certainly
have
great
concerns
about
that.
However,
in
the
face
of
irrefutable
evidence
here
from
experts
from
residents
whatever,
there
is
no
way
in
my
opinion
that
we
could
possibly
do
anything
other
than
refuse
the
application.
R
I
also,
lastly,
have
concerns
and
always
have
concerns
about
education
and
schools,
and
we
do
want
to
see
the
right
number
of
places
for
the
children
we've
got.
I
found
the
applicants
answer
to
that
little
bit.
Vague,
really
I
know
we
don't
know
necessarily
what
we're
dealing
with,
but
I
would
have
expected
to
hear
a
more
concrete
answer.
I
think
to
assurances
on
on
school
places
and
education,
so
I've
certainly
will
be
supporting
a
move
to
refuse
the
application.
O
Thank
You
chair,
the
Avon
Drive
application
on
470
has
been
mentioned
by
counsel
Gary
and
the
the
applicant
just
for
new
members.
There
was
a
four-day
public
enquiry
into
the
refusal
by
the
council
for
permission
on
that
Greenbelt
and,
if
you've
not
been
república
enquired,
there
fascinating
experiences
which
are
sat
through
four
days
old,
and
it
was
quite
clear
from
the
inspector
that
the
five
year
supply
was
not
a
factor
that
he
was
seriously
taking
into
consideration.
It
was
refused
because
there
were
not
circumstances
to
build
on
the
land
in
the
green
belt.
O
There
were
no
special
circumstances
there.
An
Avon
drive
is
nowhere
near
as
important
as
this
land
that
akon
akon
bog
so
have
no
hesitation
in
supporting
the
officers
recommendation,
and
we
did
declare
a
climate
emergency
a
few
months
ago
and
to
lose
the
amount
of
carbon.
This
would
potentially
release
will
be
very,
very
worrying
and,
to
some
extent,
irresponsible,
I
think
so
it
is
very
to
usual
chair
thank.
B
C
Councillor
Culbertson,
thank
you.
I
would
also
commend
officers
for
this
report.
I
think
it's
very
thorough
and
very
very,
in
my
opinion,
very
conclusive
I
shall
certainly
be
supporting
refusal.
This
application.
If
you
look
at
therefore
thing
for
things
that
concern
me,
one
is
the
lack
of
the
school
places
that
have
been
agreed.
There's
that
can
probably
overcome
the
highways
issues.
Also
concern
me:
the
lack
of
proper
statistics
for
the
highway
trip.
C
You
see
some
serious
concern,
there's
the
Greenbelt
aspect,
which
this
is
clearly
in
the
Greenbelt
under
the
return
policy
age,
one
of
the
RSS
no
question
about
that,
and
it
serves
two
very
useful
Greenbelt
functions
which
had
clearly
outlined
in
the
report.
But
the
final
one
is
the
impact
on
a
scan
blog.
If
you
actually
look
at
your,
we
have
some
wonderful
things
in
your
who
have
the
Minster
have
Clifford's
Tower,
which
are
man-made.
We
have
strengths,
are
common
and
asking
bog,
which
are
natural.
C
Now
recently
we
took
the
QED
barracks
in
my
warrants,
transyl
out
of
the
local
planners,
the
housing
site
because
of
concerns
by
natural
England
as
to
the
impact
on
strength
of
common,
and
that
is
incredibly
important
because
it
sets
precedents
and
it
also
points
out
that
these
sites
are
incredibly
easy
damaged
and
once
you
damage
them,
you
often
can't
repair
them.
If
God
forbid
the
Minster
burned
down,
we
could
probably
rebuild
it,
but
if
you
damage
a
scan
bog,
it's
probably
gone
for
good.
It's
taken
that
15,000
years.
C
A
E
You
chair-
and
there
are
the
two
key
issues
for
me-
are
the
very
special
circumstances
required
to
justify
approving
an
application
of
this
nature
when
the
Greenbelt
I,
don't
think
that'll
be
demonstrated,
but,
most
importantly,
the
effect
on
the
SSS
I
outlined
very
clearly
in
the
officers
report
in
paragraphs
511
to
512
I
think
are
the
most
compelling
reason.
I
will
vote
in
favor
of
refusal
of
those
two
grounds.
I.
A
Don't
see
anybody
else
indicating
a
number
of
suggested
they
would
be
willing
to,
but
would
you
do
that?
Would
you
not
please
public?
Oh
you
were
the
first
one
you
so
would
you
like
to
explain
what
shall
I
move
the
officer
recommendation?
Okay?
That
would
be
second
but
by
Councillor
air.
Thank
you.
So
we
have
a
proposal
that
we
support
the
officers
of
recommendation
refusal.
Please
indicate
if
that
is
your
decision.
A
That's
appear
to
be
unanimous:
I,
don't
see
any
vote
against
or
to
abstain.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
think
we've
been
very
clear
about
reasons
for
refusal
primarily
around
the
tribal
si
vital
considerations
and
the
lack
the
complete
lack
of
any
special
circumstances.
We
regard
to
the
green
belt,
although
we've
noted
other
concerns,
but
thank
you
very
much.
That's
been
very
helpful.
Thank
you.
A
S
Thank
You
chair,
if
I,
can
just
run
an
overview
of
the
scheme
and
then
there
is
a
an
officer
update
as
well
okay,
so
the
application
was
before
the
committee
in
February.
It
was
deferred
for
two
reasons
to
allow
the
preparation
and
submission
of
a
construction
traffic
management
plan
and
also
clarification
about
renewable
energy
measures.
So
the
application
is.
S
And
so
is
here
on
the
site,
marketing
in
red.
It's
the
proposes
a
full
application
for
42
Wellings.
It
seeks
within
a
larger
residential
scheme,
which
is
nearing
completion
outlined,
unreserved
matters.
Consent
were
approved
for
this
area
of
the
site,
but
are
unable
to
be
built
out
due
to
the
retention
of
grid
cottage
in
this
corner
of
the
site
and
the
retention
of
electricity
pylons,
which
mean
there
is
no
development
under
that
area
of
land.
So
this
application
seeks
to
redesign
this
part
of
what
was
phase
3
of
the
Derwent
flop
scheme.
S
S
S
S
The
scheme
originally
proposed
photovoltaic
cells
on
the
buildings
which
have
been
removed
following
further
consideration
by
the
trust,
and
so
they
would
look
to
address
sustainable
energy
either
through
the
existing
district
heat
network,
but
are
also
considering
ground
source
heat
pumps
for
each
of
the
dwellings.
The
application
is
a
standalone
application
for
full
planning
permission,
as
I
said
before,
it's
recommended
approval
and
subject
to
conditions
and
section
106
and
officers
qasida,
there's
sufficient
information
to
determine
the
application
in
terms
of
an
update,
just
clarification
in
terms
of
labor
responses.
S
Further
to
the
officers
report,
it
should
actually
be
12
responses
that
have
been
received
six
from
residents
within
don't
four
five
from
residents
on
Fifth
Avenue,
one
from
resident
on
at
burn
home
Avenue.
The
issues
that
are
omniupdate
are,
as
in
the
report
particularly
relate
to
issues
of
access
where
access
to
science
should
be
taken
from
whether
it
be
Fifth,
Avenue
or
other
access
from
the
east
and
the
impact
of
access
on
existing
residents
just
to
clarify
further
as
well.
S
The
applicant
has
approached
the
local
planning
authority
with
regards
to
education,
money
asking
that
it
be
directed
to
sent
all
red
school
and
to
cover
funding
of
an
increased
staff,
car
parking
area
and
install
controlled
access
to
the
site.
As
part
of
this
planning
application.
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
that
the
council's
Education
Department
has
requested
a
financial
contribution
towards
secondary
school
age,
and
so
Nora's
goal
is
primary.
S
Their
records
show
that
there's
capacity
within
the
primary
planning
area
for
do--it
4
that
includes
that
all
roads
and
ahs
Baldrick
school
and
because
there
is
capacity
they're,
not
seeking
any
primary
school
education
provision,
any
obligations
that
we
as
an
authority
ask
for
have
to
meet
tests
in
the
community
infrastructure,
Level,
II
regulations.
And
so
we
have
to
demonstrate
that
for
any
new
development
that
there
is
not
sufficient
space
for
any
new
pupils
that
are
generated
by
the
scheme
and
obviously
because
there
is
capacity.
S
S
The
highway
condition
highway.
19
seeks
delivery.
The
scheme,
in
line
with
car
and
cycle
parking
details
that
have
been
provided
I've,
been
asked
by
highways
and
discussed
it
with
the
the
agent
that
we
seek
further
details
with
regard
to
cycle
parking
to
allow
for
changes
that
they
are
proposing.
So
it
would
just
be
to
tweak
the
wording
of
highway
19
to
allow
for
that
and
a
final
condition
which
would
seek
to
seek
details
of
the
means
of
access
which
would
be
from.
S
Metcalfe
lane
into
the
site
grid
cottage
currently
has
a
lawful
access
to
Metcalfe
lane,
which
would
need
to
be
maintained,
but
if
a
mechanism
is
put
in
place
to
prevent
the
40
houses
also
being
able
to
access
them
to
make
a
flame,
and
so
that's
what
that
condition
is
aim
to
achieve
and
finally
and
informative
with
regards
to
nesting
birds.
Many
thanks
thank.
A
O
S
Give
a
detailed
rationale
and
it's
they've
they've
looked
at
the
energy
efficiency
of
the
homes
and
they
do
meet
or
above
what
we
would
normally
require.
Anyway,
they
have
a
district
heat
Network
already
in
place,
so
using
that
district
heat
network
would
make
the
would
provide
that
sufficient
for
thee
for
the
dwellings
but
I
think
they're.
Looking
at
and
I've
indicated,
preference
might
be
for
ground
source
heat
pumps
instead
of
the
photovoltaic
cells
growing.
O
N
Like
a
Genesis
clarification
about
what
you
said
on
the
the
education
provision,
if
I
heard
you
write
this
sort
of
a
tipping
point
whereby
if
you
build
700
houses
and
there's
capacity
for
those
children,
you
paid
thing.
If
somebody
then
comes
along
and
build
50
houses
and
that's--it's
it
over
into
needing
three
places,
they
would
then
have
to
provide
the
dismal
places.
Did
I
hear
you
correctly,
yeah.
S
I
mean
the
way
that
very
educational
payments
are
calculated
is
at
the
time
that
the
application
is
before
the
authority.
So
they,
when
we
consult
with
education,
they
look
at
what
capacity
is
within
the
catchment
for
that
particular
development.
If
there's
capacity
to
deal
with
the
children
being
generated
from
the
development,
then
we
have
no
grounds
to
us
for
education
payment.
If
there
isn't
capacity,
as
there
sometimes
is
around
the
city,
then
we
have
an
education
paying.
T
G
T
T
S
U
Sorry,
we
just
confirm
with
the
apologies:
there
isn't
an
objection
per
se
but
from
the
ecology
officer.
If
we
think
that
that's
an
issue,
we
can
amend
that
lighting
details
to
be
submitted
to
include
a
specific
around
the
shield
to
help
minimize
lights.
Well,
that's
not
unreasonable
for
us
to
amend
that
condition
to
that.
To
include
that
point,
so
we
can
do
that.
S
The
comments
were
comments
that
were
made
by
the
ecologist
at
the
start
of
the
process,
and
so
there
have
been
changes
made
to
the
scheme.
Those
comments
that
the
ecologist
made
were
referred
to,
but
to
the
developer.
I,
don't
have
the
lighting
scheme.
Fortunately,
with
me
to
be
able
to
check
on
that
particular
woman.
But
as
I
said,
there
is
a
lighting
scheme,
that's
covered
my
conditions,
so
that
information
would
need
to
come
back
in
to
the
authority
and
the
ecologist
could
comment
and
be
involved
in
that.
That's.
T
All
I
was
asking
was
had
it
been
removed,
okay
in
terms
of
paragraph
3.6
and
the
relocation
of
this
pumping
station,
which
involves
yet
more
aerial
removal
of
hedgerows
that
in
2006
was
supposed
to
be
protected
on
that
site.
I'm
intrigued
as
to
the
sudden
realization
that
was
high,
voltage,
cable
running
alongside
the
saucer
and
cyclin
row,
because
it
was
round
trees
that
actually
procured
on
the
grounding
of
the
high
voltage
cable
when
the
project
started
so
I.
P
S
Think
the
reference
was
to
comments
that
have
been
received
from
the
local
community
and
there
has
been
requests
for
a
different
access
to
the
site
from
think
it's
gala
gap
plane
as
well
as
has
been
referenced
to
Metcalf
Lane
reference
to
access
through
other
parts
of
the
adjacent
to
the
site.
So
that's,
it
was
brief.
I
think
I
think
that's
a
bit
you
talking
about
was
me
sort
of
clarifying
the
comments
that
have
been
received
from
local
residents
just.
P
S
The
application
is
a
submitted
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
access
from
of
Fifth
Avenue,
and
that
was
an
agreed
position
as
part
of
the
outline
in
reserve
matters
for
the
development
of
this
part
of
the
site,
as
Percy
was
originally
part
of
Phase.
Three
land
ownership
issues
obviously
impact
in
terms
of
developer
being
able
to
come
from
other
parts
of
the
site.
S
S
A
G
G
How
much
of
that
is
category
five
cutter
before
and
you
might
want
to
explain
what
cut
of
your
five
category
four
roads
are
because,
certainly,
if
you
drive
along
there,
there
are
some
significant
potholed
areas
already,
which
I
suspect
won't
be
improved
by
32-ton
wagons.
Continuing
to
trundle
look
them
down,
I.
S
Mean
as
part
of
the
construction
traffic
management
plan
that
the
applicant
submitted,
what
they're
saying
is
that
they
would
look
to
carry
out
surveys
of
the
of
Fifth
Avenue
before
they
start
work.
There
may
have
been
some
deterioration
of
the
road
I'm,
not
in
the
highway
authority,
in
terms
of
knowing
exactly
what
the
condition
of
the
road
is
at
this
moment
in
time,.
G
Thank
You
chair
they
may
well,
but
cyc,
has
its
own
conditions.
Survey
of
of
the
roads
and
I
thought
there
was
somebody
from
highway,
sir.
So
I
thought
there
was
somebody
from
highways
here
that
might
be
able
to
answer
that
question
in
respect
of
how
much
of
that
stretch
is
in
the
worst
two
categories:
sorry
I'm
I'm
ducking.
V
Sorry,
I
can
only
answer
that
question
from
the
point
of
highways
development
control,
rather
than
the
point
of
highways
asset
management,
which
may
have
been
the
partner
Council
little
done
undertaken
any
condition
surveys
or
the
road
network
in
and
around
the
site.
From
my
understanding
is,
there
was
a
dilapidation
survey
undertaken
before
site
work
commenced
on
phase
three,
and
there
will
be
a
further
dilapidation
survey
undertaken
before
commencement
and
works
on
this
subsequent
phase.
V
B
Relating
to
this
I
see
with
the
construction
management
as
proposed
here
looking
at
that
plan
and
not
clear
whether
there
is
actually
adopted
highway
along
the
southern
boundary
of
the
site
and
why
that
has
not
been
consumed
there.
Why
that's
not
being
considered
the
most
appropriate
access
point
for
this
points,
we're
deliberatly.
B
U
B
S
The
site
into
two:
yes,
so
the
four
accesses
from
was
bald
wick
to
Baltic
Village,
to
face
one
temple
Avenue
to
face
two,
which
is
in
this
location,
Fifth
Avenue,
to
face
three
and
face
forwards
from
Midland.
So
that
was
what
was
approved
under
the
outline
in
the
reserve
matters,
but
there's
never
been
an
intention
to
use
the
pedestrian.
That's
like
on
that
works.
No.
B
I
understand
that
yes,
look
at
the
plan
and
the
other
question
was
in
relation
to
thee.
The
plan
that's
being
put
forward
now.
I
understand
the
history
of
the
site
is
I
mean
we
may
get
on
to
sort
of
discussing
it
in
a
bit
more
detail
later
on,
but
given
the
design
of
the
purpose
of
home
zone
design,
has
that
been
taken
into
account
in
terms
of
the
the
recommendation
about
still
using
that,
even
though
the
development
has
come
forward
in
a
different
stage
from
what
was
the
movie
out
like
the
outline?
S
Mean
part
of
the
reason,
obviously,
that
this
sites
going
forward
last
is
because
the
trust
didn't
have
ownership
of
National
Grid
site
in
terms
of
the
home
zones.
This.
This
is
the
what
was
the
whole
Road
and
there's
now
don'twe
leads
through
to
the
site
and
he's
it
was
proposed
to
be
public
transport
route
as
us
to
take
construction
vehicles,
so
the
home
zones
around
the
laps,
the
lap
in
that
location,
so
that
they're
sort
of
off
that
main
main
route
through
the
site.
R
U
R
S
T
Just
to
assist
as
regards
Metcalf
Lane,
it's
a
private
plane
and
the
ownership
is
held
by
the
the
honor
of
Langton
house.
It's
also
a
public
right-of-way
footpath
and
a
public
right-of-way
at
Bradley
way,
and
it
also
bears
recital
rope,
exit
and
entrance.
So
even
the
notion
of
using
that
for
any
form
of
construction
traffic
is
a
no-no.
So
just
forget
that
side
of
it
going
onto
page
61,
paragraph
3.8,
highway
network
management
in
principle
accepts
the
construction
traffic
management
plan,
subject
to
further
detail
being
provided.
What
is
that
further
detail?
Please.
S
So,
as
I
said
at
the
beginning,
the
construction
traffic
management
plan
is
a
sort
of
preliminary
statement,
because
there
isn't
a
contractor.
That's
been
appointed
to
work
to
develop
the
scheme,
so
the
highway
authority
are
happy
with
this
as
a
overarching
plan
which
gives
the
principles
that
would
then
be
followed
through
with
further
detail
once
a
contractor's
in
place,
and
that
would
be,
as
I
said,
subject
to
section.
106
agreements
require
that
we
we
get
that
further
detail.
So.
T
T
S
T
And
I
don't
know
whether
anybody's
picked
up
on
the
the
last
objection
comment
on
page
66,
where
the
resident
living
within
the
Derwent
Thorpe
development
states,
there's
no
confidence
in
the
applicants,
other
builders
to
impose
or
enforce
measures
to
slow
down
traffic
and
restrict
access
times
so
which
I
would
like
to
add.
They
have
no
confidence
whatsoever
in
the
local
authority.
Imposing
such
conditions
and
I
would
ask
if
anybody's
here
from
the
enforcement
team
to
discuss
what
has
been
a
shambles
for
8
now,
a
few
years
in
terms
of
enforcement
to
which
chair
have
kept.
T
A
V
Would
say
that
the
delivery
vehicles
will
be
restricted
to
under
32
tons,
it
doesn't
mean
to
say
they
will
be
32
tons
and
we
are
going
to
be
working
with
the
applicant,
which
is
Joseph's
housing.
Health
Joseph
rounds,
re
housing,
trust
to
implement
suitable
measures
to
guide
construction
vehicles
away
from
entering
the
site
outside
of
the
restricted
working
time.
So
the
construction
management
plan,
as
submitted
so
far,
is
a
very
early
draft,
a
working
document
to
be
improved
upon
once
the
applicant
has
got
a
development
partner
on
both
to
deliver
this
game.
Thank.
A
W
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
in
support
of
this
application
by
the
Joseph
Rowntree
Housing
Trust,
to
build
40
new
homes
on
a
brownfield
site
on
the
outskirts
of
York.
The
Joseph
Rowntree
Housing
Trust
is
a
not-for-profit
provider
of
housing.
If
this
application
is
approved,
we
will
have
delivered
in
excess
of
200
genuinely
affordable
homes
within
a
new
mixed
10-year
community,
at
Durban
Thorpe
in
2007
jht
secured
outlined
planning
permission
to
develop
Darren
Thorpe
with
the
initial
intention
to
build
540
homes.
W
W
The
application
was
considered
previously
at
the
February
committee
of
the
Planning
February
18
of
the
Planning
Committee,
a
decision
was
deferred
pending
more
information
concerning
construction,
traffic
management
and
environmental
sustainability.
Jarick
t
readily
accept
that
the
construction
of
Darren
Thorpe
has
had
a
significant
impact
on
both
new
and
existing
residents,
particularly
those
living
on
Fifth
Avenue.
Since
February,
we
have
held
meetings
with
local
councillors,
residents
of
5th
Avenue
residents
of
direct
thought
and
representatives
in
Albert's
primary
school.
W
Through
these
meetings,
we've
been
able
to
work
together
to
develop
a
set
of
construction
management,
traffic
management
principles
which
have
now
been
published
on
the
planning
portal
and
discussed
this
evening.
Our
chosen
contractor
will
adopt
these
principles
when
they
develop
their
formal
construction.
Traffic
management
plan
and
jht
will
insist
that
the
project
is
registered
under
the
considerate
constructors
scheme.
Furthermore,
we
intend
to
impose
a
system
of
financial
penalties
upon
the
contractor
for
any
breaches
of
the
agreed
principles.
Information
on
any
penalties
will
be
made
public
and
the
money
would
be
returned
to
the
community.
W
I
would
note
at
this
stage
that
Barrett
David
Wilson
homes
are
not
part
of
the
competitive
tendering
process
and
will
not
be
involved
in
the
construction
of
these
dwellings.
Delivery
of
the
project
by
a
contractor
instead
of
a
development
partner,
will
give
jht
significantly
increased
control
over
how
the
construction
work
is
undertaken
and
the
impact
it
has
on
neighboring
residents.
W
Furthermore,
I
would
stress
to
the
committee
that
the
heavy
vehicle
heavy
goods
vehicle
movements
associated
with
building
40
homes
are
vastly
fewer
than
those
experienced
to
date
when
at
times,
David
Wilson
ham
homes
had
over
100
units
under
construction
at
any
one
time.
I
would
urge
the
committee
to
consider
this
application
in
the
context
of
a
critical
shortage
of
housing
at
a
local
and
national
level,
and
grant
permission
for
us
to
continue
delivering
genuinely
affordable
homes
for
the
residents
of
York.
W
Following
the
February
committee,
we
had
an
initial
meeting
with
a
large,
reasonably
large
group
of
representatives
of
5th
Avenue
and
I
would
term
existing
residents,
also
residents
of
direct
thought,
local
councils
and
references
to
school.
We
took
away
what
what
we
felt
were.
The
residents
concerns
in
the
residents
needs
and
wishes
and
demands,
and
we
returned
a
number
of
weeks
later
with
this
document
for
that
group
to
consider
I
do
not
believe
it's
an
exhaust.
It
isn't
intended
to
be
exhaustive.
X
W
It's
important
to
raise
that
under
the
considerate
constructors
program,
that
is
an
absolute
redline
requirement
of
qualifying
for
that
scheme
and
that's
an
independently
audited
scheme
for
sites
to
adhere
to
and
pre
start
meetings
with
the
public.
Ongoing
meetings
with
the
public.
Ongoing
communication
with
the
public
and
a
single
point
of
contact
is
a
fundamental
condition
of
considered
constructors
and
that's
a
large
part
of
why
we
would
insist
that
any
contractor
signed
up
to
adhere
to
considerate
constructors.
G
G
G
So
I'm
concerned
that
issues
that
have
been
raised
with
you
throughout
the
phase
3
development,
about
the
construction
traffic,
and
you
acknowledge
right
at
the
outset,
there
has
been
significant
destruction
and
impact
on
the
residents
of
5th
Avenue
is
to
what
extent
you
were
responsive
to
those
concerns
when
they
would
be
enraged
and
doing
something
about
it.
Now
that
you've
got
a
new
application,
this
this
could
be
an
observation
that
was
made
is
you're
now
concerned
about
the
impact
of
traffic
as
you've
got
a
new
application,
but
weren't
responsive
when
you
didn't
I.
W
Think
it's
important
to
remember
that
David
Lawson
homes
were
a
development
part.
We
did
not
have
a
contractual
mechanism
with
them
which
gave
us
the
control
that
we
that
would
have
liked
or
envisaged.
We
would
have
this
arrangement
where
the
contractor
would
be
entirely
different.
I
do
regard
this
up
with
this
application,
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
prove
ourselves,
and
we
reiterate
my
statement
from
from
my
initial
opening
speech
that
we
openly
accept
that
there's
been
significant
disruption.
G
I
just
wanted
to
respond
if
it's
alright
to
respond
quickly
to
that.
So
there
is
a
rebuilding
of
trust
that
you
need
to
do
and
I
think
the
point
that
counsel
that
Douglas
made
about
bringing
the
residents
on
board
with
that
is
something
that
I
would
be
very
mindful
of
for
you
as
the
primary
developer.
Thank.
T
I
thought
we
were
trying
to
build
some
trust
up
about
five
weeks
ago
when
we
actually
sat
down
and
discussed
all
this,
and
it's
been
a
complete
and
utter
shambles.
Ever
since,
and
as
we've
copied,
the
chair
in
now
I
appreciate
that
you
don't
have
any
control
over
David
Wilson
arms.
Would
you
have
appreciated
some
assistance
from
the
local
authorities
enforcement
team
in
actually
enforcing
the
conditions
as
set
down
at
the
moment
which
they've
spectacularly
failed
to
enforce,
have
been
begging
for
a
breach
of
condition?
T
A
T
The
question
is,
if
there's
a
similar
break
with
your
new
contractor,
will
you
be
requesting
assistance
from
the
City
Council
to
take
strong
enforcement
action
in
tandem
with
your
system
of
fangs,
whatever
their
mayor,
be
because
that
is
the
only
way
that
you
will
regain
the
trust
of
the
people
that
live
on
the
construction
road
and
that
includes
Fifth,
Avenue
and
Irwin
felt
so
that
that's
the
direct
question?
Will
you'll
be
requesting
help
from
these
councils
enforcement
people?
Our.
W
T
Right,
you
said
at
the
very
outset
that
you
know
not-for-profit
organization.
Well,
it
appears
to
me
from
again
and
see
in
this
latest
iteration
of
the
construction
management
plan,
which
is
just
copied
and
pasted
from
the
original
one
from
2008
your
question
that
we're
actually
increasing
the
weight
of
vehicles.
Now
it
was
a
not-for-profit
organization
when
you
were
thought
it
better
to
regain
the
trust
of
people
on
that
construct
from
Road.
T
T
W
You've
asked
me
that
question
almost
almost
word-for-word
previously
and
my
answer
will
be
the
same
for
the
benefit
of
the
committee
32
tons.
Rigid
wagon
is
a
reduction
in
weight
from
the
current
setup,
where
articulated
vehicles
are
permissible,
articulated
wagons
are
up
to
and
including
42
tons.
So
we
are
suggesting
a
reduction
in
disruptive
articulator
vehicles
and
also
a
reduction
in
weight.
As
I
said
to
you
previously,
we
need
to
find
a
balance
between
lighter
vehicles
and
more
movements,
because
the
construction
materials
have
affixed
have
a
set
weight
need
to
move
them
to
my
project.
B
You
councillor
Duan,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
ask
go
as
reference
that,
but
were
two
reasons
for
defer.
Delaying
this
one
of
them,
which
was
to
clarify
about
the
energy
strategy
in
reference
on
page
75,
to
the
fact
that
originally
proposed
voted,
they
voltaic
panels
being
emitted
emitted,
replaced
either
connection
to
a
district
heating
network
or
the
provision
of
ground
source
heat
pumps.
B
Just
wanted
to
clarify
is
that
basically,
some
further
work
to
be
done
to
decide
whether
or
not
the
district
heating
network
can
cope
with
additional
additional
capacity
or
is
it
the
ground
source
heat
pumps
might
be
applied
to
some
properties
and
not
others?
And
secondly,
what
sir
is
given
the
climate
emergency,
but
which
we
all
agree
and
what
is
the
rationale
behind
reducing
the
potential
for
generating,
basically
free
electricity
for
the
future
for
the
future
occupants
of
these
houses
in.
W
Answer
to
the
first
question:
we
we
will
seek
a
blanket
approach.
It
will
be
either
40
homes
fed
by
the
district
heat
or
40
homes
fed
by
ground
source
heat
pumps.
Current
preference
is
ground
source
heat
pumps.
We
are
seeking
clarification
around
the
robustness
of
that
and
also
the
practicalities
of
installing
40
additional
40
independent
wall
holes
on
the
scheme.
So
our
research
is
ongoing
on
that,
but
it
is
sincerely
our
preference
to
go
ground
source
heat
pump
if
possible,
on
the
photovoltaics
and
photovoltaic
panels
have
never
been
part
of
the
energy
strategy.
W
It
thought
some
private
residents
have
since
installed
their
own.
It's
never
been
part
of
our
approach.
We
are
evaluating.
We
have
some
prototypes
homes
on
duit
sort
where
we're
looking
at
photovoltaic
panels
and
the
use
of
tesla
batteries
for
storage
and
so
on,
and
we
continue
to
evaluate
those,
but
I
would
stress
that,
even
without
the
photovoltaic
panels,
we
are
performing
between
32
and
37
percent.
Better
than
building
regulations,
depending
on
which
property
type
is
in
question.
At
any
time.
One.
B
W
Can
give
some
more
clarification,
if
you
like
sure,
every
property
that
has
a
appropriate
Drive
so
much?
Some
are
not
as
their
on
street
parking.
Every
property
with
an
appropriate
Drive
has
a
three-pin
plug
within
range,
but
as
this
application
forms
part
of
a
wider
scheme,
we
are
already
committed
to
providing
electric
fast
charges
in
the
center
in
at
the
center
of
the
resort,
with
associated
parking.
P
W
You
Nancy
Metcalf
Elaine
question:
we
do
have
a
route
of
access,
but
the
right
of
access
is
was
granted
to
the
National
Grid
when
that
site
was
under
their
ownership
and
passed
to
us,
and
it's
quite
explicit
in
its
purpose
and
its
purpose
that
the
right
was
not
granted
for
the
construction
or
redevelopment
of
the
project
and
the
right
was
granted
for
the
access
to
and
maintenance
of.
So
we
do
not
have
the
right
to
use
Metcalf
lane
for
that
purpose,
and
the
land
is
not
there.
W
The
line
is
not
in
our
ownership
is
not
in
our
gift
to
undertake
that
we
we
have
looked
at
other
groups,
we've
considered
them.
We've
also
gone
back
to
the
first
principles,
which
was
the
Secretary
of
State's
report
in
2007.
It
was
a
Secretary
of
State's
inspector
who
who
identified
Fifth
Avenue,
as
as
the
logical
point
of
access
and
I
would
stress
that
don'twe,
which
is
the
road
with
endurance
or
the
construction
traffic
will
use,
is
the
largest
carriageway
within
doe.
It
thought
it
has
segregated
what
has
surfaced.
Foot
paths
with
curbs
on
both
sides.
A
Y
Thank
you,
chair
members,
I
sit
here
in
a
dual
capacity.
One
is
the
ward
councillor
for
Berwick
and
Owen,
but
also
the
vice-chair
of
the
schools
and
Harrods
of
primary
school.
It's
it's
quite
white.
The
last
time
this
came
to
this
committee.
In
a
previous
incarnation,
it
was
deferred
and
one
of
our
concerns
was
the
106
funding
and
the
education
element
of
that
1:06
funding.
Y
We
did
have
a
meeting
with
the
the
applicant
and
and,
as
has
been
said,
there
were
a
number
of
commitments
that
were
made
by
the
applicant
with
regards
to
providing
funds
for
a
car
park,
providing
funds
for
a
school
crossing,
providing
funds
for
signage.
These
are
all
things
that
were
brought
at
our
last
submission.
Y
Y
Just
so
you're
aware,
the
the
initial
assessment
for
106
money
was
done
at
the
beginning
of
the
proposal
for
the
development
many
many
years
ago
and
at
that
point,
as
an
air
wood
school
was
in
a
position
where
it
did
have
capacity.
However,
now
we
are
at
capacity,
we
have
simply
just
two
or
three
spaces
left
in
September
when
the
new
school
term
starts.
What
I
would
ask
the
committee
to
do?
Firstly,
I
would
say
that
I
am
for
the
building
of
new
homes
of
affordable
homes.
Y
I'm
not
Satya,
saying
we
need
to
throw
this
out.
You
know
with
the
you
know,
with
last
week's
news.
What
I
am
saying
is
that
I'm
going
to
ask
you
if
you
will
be
fir
it
again
and
it's
difficult
but
defer
it
again,
so
that
we
can
get
some
clarification
around
the
funding?
That's
been
promised
to
the
school
and
we
can
get
some
clarification
around
the
elements
of
the
the
transport
plan
and-
and
my
last
point
would
simply
be
that
you
know
I
haven't
seen
all
the
time
I've
been
involved
in
this
development.
Y
I
haven't
seen
any
goodwill
gesture
from
the
applicant
to
the
residence
on
Fifth
Avenue
of
any
shape
of
any
form
and
and
again
I
would
have
expected
that
that
would
have
come
if
we're
going
to
trust
a
an
applicant
with
it
with
a
new
with
a
new
contractor.
So
I
would
ask
you
to
defer
it,
so
it
can
get
some
real
clarification
around
the
funding
and
for
our
school
and
and
also
around
the
the
transport
management
plan.
Thank
You
chair,
thank.
Y
So
that
the
current
situation
is
unchanged
from
when
we
came
to
this
committee
back
in
February,
there
has
been
no
movement
on
Fifth
Avenue
that
is
sought
to
make
any
reparation
at
all.
There
has
been
no
offer
of
funding
from
the
applicant
to
even
put
signage
up
just
to
try
and
slow
the
traffic
down
that
goes
up
and
down
Fifth
Avenue.
The
meeting
that
we
had
with
the
applicant.
There
was
an
assurance
from
them
that
they,
the
money,
would
be
made
available
to
pay
for
a
crossing
and
for
signage
and
for
car
parking.
Y
That
money
was
supposed
to
have
come
from
the
one
of
the
education
element
of
the
one
who
six
well
and
clearly,
that's
not
going
to
happen.
The
applicant
may
well
make
some
assurances
to
you
as
a
committee
that
they
will
provide
private
funding.
For
that.
However,
I
will
ask
you
to
defer
this
application
so
that
that
kind
of
commitment
can
then
be
put
in
writing,
and
then
we
can
move
forward.
Knowing
that
that
funding
is
available.
N
Y
So
I'm
Anna
Garber
to
you
you
you
were
quite
rightly
approached
me
after
our
meeting
about
the
ward
committee
about
the
Ward
funding
I'm,
not
aware
that
we
have
approached
that
our
first
port
of
call
was
to
meet
with
the
offer
of
the
applicant
for
full
funding
to
come
forward
from
there.
Obviously,
if,
if
funding
is
not
forthcoming,
and
if
this
application
is
accepted
and
moves
ahead-
and
we
find
ourselves
in
a
position
where
we
do
need
to
to
approach
the
ward
for
funding,
then
we
will
do
so
Patrick.
R
I'm
interested
in
what
you're
saying
and
about
the
school
numbers
and
I
have
to
say:
I
shared
the
incredible
sort
of
expression
that
council
air
have
previously
and
about
the
numbers
on
all
schools.
I.
You
know
I,
do
question
that,
but
I
realize
that's
not
within
your
emits,
so
talking
about
primary
numbers
anyway
and
of
course,
the
time
as
you
say
that
they
were,
they
were
decided.
Things
may
well
change
what
about
the
secondary
score?
R
Y
Y
There
are
children
that
walk
up
and
down
Fifth,
Avenue
and
again
without
wanting
to
waive
clamps
on
the
waters
flag
and
necessarily
the
the
vehicles
have
been
accessing
5th
Avenue
way
before
eight
o'clock
they've
been
coming
up
and
down
Fifth
Avenue
we're
talking
about
large
HD
vehicles
that
are
clearly
breaching
the
conditions
that
have
previously
been
in
place
and
others
been
causing.
Safety
issues
for
children
have
been.
Vehicles
have
been
parked
up:
HTV
vehicles
every
plaintiff
on
Fifth
Avenue,
causing
young
children
to
have
to
walk
onto
the
road
in
order
to
get
past
them.
Y
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
thought
I
think
it
might
be
helpful
for
getting
a
little
bit
more
clarity
around
the
issue
of
schools,
funding
you
and
the
primary
school,
the
dates
of
which
that
was
assess
them
and
whether
or
not
deferral
would
be
an
appropriate
thing.
Would
it
be
helpful
to
have
some
some
guidance
on
this?
Some
clarification
would
be
good.
Thank
you.
I'll.
U
Cover
the
general
education
in
terms
of
the
education
request:
it's
got
in
terms
of
regulations
that
we
have
to
follow
that
we
talk
to
you
about
all
the
time.
The
planning
regulations
that
we've
to
follow
it's
going
to
be
reasonable
in
terms
of
the
need,
our
Education
Department.
We've
spoken.
Honest
welcome
to
them
today
about
the
specific
need
for
that
site
and
they've
identified
what
they
think
this
development
will
generate.
That's
what's
reasonable
in
terms
of
the
need.
U
What
you're
identifying
in
terms
of
signage
and
car
parking
isn't
necessarily
something
that
had
come
through
a
section
one
or
six,
because
it's
the
need
for
childcare
provision
places
would
be
looking
at
what's
needed
in
terms
of
that,
we've
had
the
specific
advice
that,
in
terms
of
primary
care
due
to
this
development,
this
far
see
houses
that
it
wouldn't
be
required.
The
secondary
education
would
be
and
they
and
there
is
a
contribution
that
would
be
secured
as
part
of
the
106.
For
that.
Okay,
do
you
want
anything
just.
S
Again,
it's
not
necessarily
the
capacity
just
it's
an
all
red
school.
The
way
that
the
education
authority
look
at
capacity
for
that
for
a
development
is
based
on
what
they
refer
to
as
a
primary
planning
area
of
primary
schools.
So
in
core
so
includes
AHS
Baldrick,
and
there
is
capacity
at
Oswald
works.
So
there
is
no
justification
for
them.
Seeking
further
funding
to
provide
for
additional
provision
at
schools
to
cater
for
the
children
that
will
be
generated
from
the
forty
houses
on.
A
Z
What
about
5th
Avenue
residents
who
have
had
to
deal
with
this
issue
and
continue
to
deal
with
this
issue
due
to
twerks
traffic?
Will
conditions
be
put
in
place
to
protect
them
in
3.13
it
states
and
contaminates?
The
soil
will
have
to
be
removed
from
sites,
which
means
it's
going
to
be
traveling
along
5th
Avenue
the
street
that
only
last
week
at
least
electricity
supply
fail,
apparently
due
to
heavy
lorries,
damaging
the
supply
underneath
the
road
AB.
This
race
is
concerned
by
several
different
residents,
who
spoke
to
workmen
on-site.
Z
At
the
time
we
cited
heavy
traffic
as
a
potential
reason
for
the
electricity
outage.
Surely
the
whole
of
Fifth
Avenue
needs
to
be
looked
at,
not
just
the
end
nearest
area
thought
and
clearly
not
just
the
potholes
on
the
surface,
but
underneath
please
pay
careful
attention
to
paragraph
three
point:
two:
nine
to
three
point:
three:
nine
highlighting
local
residents
concerns
concerns
come
from
residents
of
5th
Avenue,
but
also
from
residences
Darren
Thorpe
estate
itself.
In
ideal
world.
This
would
have
been
developed
first,
but
we're
not
there.
So
an
alternative
entrance
has
to
be
considered.
Z
Paragraph
four
point:
five
two
highlights
that
this
is
a
standalone
application
and
not
linked
to
previous
applications.
So
that
could
happen.
Paragraph
four
point:
two
one
I
likes
the
concerns
regarding
a
lack
of
an
adequate
traffic
management
plan.
In
four
point:
two:
three:
it
states,
as
as
5th
Avenue,
was
built
for
public
transports
in
mind.
Then
it
should
be
fine.
Imagine
all
the
buses
of
the
city
rushing
down
your
street
at
a
plus
seven
day
day-out.
How
would
that
affect
you
and
how
will
that
affect
the
quality
of
the
road?
Z
And
once
at
this
point,
declared
interests
as
you've
already
highlighted?
I
am
a
teacher
at
Archbishop's,
and
obviously
some
of
that
section,
one
or
six
money
is
earmarked
for
that
school.
However,
what
provision
is
being
put
in
place
for
Sentara
Reds
you're,
not
telling
me
that
there
aren't
gonna,
be
further
children,
a
primary
school
age
at
this
development
and
out
of
this
condition,
eight
fit
in
with
a
traffic
management
plan.
Sure
it
has
to
be
explicitly
stated
that
Noah
works
traffic
should
be
happening
during
school,
drop-off
and
pickup
times.
Z
Fifth
Avenue
was
designed
as
the
end
of
a
long
street.
It
was
never
meant
to
have
such
a
volume
of
traffic
moving
up
and
down
it.
This
is
particularly
concerning
when
it
comes
to
works,
traffic
bill,
the
traffic
can
travel
on
and
off
site
via
other
routes.
Please
work
traffic
is
forced
down
Fifth
Avenue
again
and
again.
The
traffic
management
plan
has
apparently
been
producing
consultation
with
residents.
One
meeting
no
follow
up
five
people
in
this
consultation
meeting
residents
highlights
of
their
numerous
concerns:
dust
dirt,
dangerous
speeding,
lorries,
the
lack
of
enforcement
is
dangerous.
Z
T
Z
Essentially,
currently
because
works
traffic
is
flouting
the
conditions
that
have
been
set
down
previously,
we're
in
a
situation
where
you've
got
lorries
driving
up
and
down
that
Street.
When
children,
small
children,
four-year-olds,
are
being
dropped
at
school
and
taken
home
from
school,
further
back
up
5th
Avenue
and
then
onto
tangora
Lane.
Yes,
some
of
the
kids
who
are
coming
to
my
school
are
walking
along
that
streets.
At
that
particular
time.
Z
The
alternative
is
lorries,
get
sort
of
banked.
They
get
stopped
and
waited
ok,
which
means
that's
this
pollution.
It
means
there's
dust,
there's
dirt
that
all
these
children
are
breathing
in
constantly
as
they're
wandering
up
and
down
that
Street.
It's
it's
not
good
enough.
For
me,
I
mean
you
can
just
ain't
even
on
Derwent
way.
You
can
look
at
that
site
and
say
that
you've
got
to
go
through
the
entirety
of
the
Derwent
Thorpe
site
development
to
get
to
the
proposed
development.
There
are
shorter
routes
and
I
think
we
have
to
refuse
this
application.
Z
Z
Certainly
clean-shaven
when
it
started
and
I
think
I
was
I
was
probably
still
in
school.
To
be
honest,
it's
it's
been
going
on
for
a
long
long
time.
Over
a
decade
now
December
2010
there
you
go
so
nearly
a
decade,
so
there
was
a
lot
of
the
children.
We
were
currently
going
to
that
primary
school
weren't
alive
when
they
started
and
it's
just
damaging
and
the
street
you're
on
I
mean
10
years
ago.
Z
This
street
was
a
street
set
for
50
or
so
houses
at
that
ends,
but
is
now
a
further
500
which
comes
back
to
the
idea
of
trust.
I
mean
they've,
had
five
hundred
houses
worth
of
trust,
to
build
up
and
now
they're
asking
for
40.
It's
just
not
good
enough.
I
think
the
trust
is
broken
down
and
I
think
that
there
was
a
real
opportunity
after
February's
deferments
actually
produce
a
proper
traffic
management
plan
and,
quite
frankly,
that's
not
happens
and
I.
Think
if
you
approve
this,
then
what
you're
saying
is.
N
It's
just
a
case
of
laughing
Moses
will
accept
a
lot.
The
points
you've
said,
but
given
the
decision
of
the
Secretary
of
State,
that
5th
Avenue
is
the
access
route,
do
you
feel
confident
that
the
local
authority
will
be
able
to
defend
itself
against
an
appeal
based
on
the
grounds
of
that
you've
put
forward
this.
Z
Is
a
separate
application
and
it's
been
a
long
time
since
that
decision
was
made
and
I
think
right
now,
yeah
I
do
feel
confident
that
actually
you
could
turn
around
and
say
so.
Much
has
changed.
This
wasn't
part
of
the
original
plan.
This
wasn't
owned
by
Jay
rht
at
that
time.
As
a
result
that
surely
got
a
account
for
something
it
couldn't
have
been
considered
the
time
because
it
wasn't
part
of
that
site.
Z
A
T
Please
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
it
was
part
of
the
outline
master
plan,
but
there
is
no
alternative
access
round
freezer
box
ourselves
in
with
this,
and
what
is
at
issue
here
is
the
current
lack
of
enforcement
on
the
traffic
management
plan.
That's
in
place
at
the
moment,
and
wanted
to
see
proper
enforcement
going
forward
of
the
traffic
management
plan.
Brief
as
it
is
for
this
phase,
5.
Z
The
traffic
management
plan
as
currently
stands
is,
is
weak
at
best
and
even
your
own
engineers
have
said
subjects
of
further
detail
being
provided.
If
cars
can
get
onto
this
site
by
several
different
routes,
then
an
alternative
has
to
be
considered,
and
that
is
only
fair
and
only
right
to
the
Africans
and
to
the
residents.
Thank.
A
Z
A
B
W
Terms
of
the
Sanel
reads:
off
of
a
crossing
I
mean
correspondence
with
Jen
Hurley
at
the
school,
who
was
invited
us
to
a
meeting
with
invited
us
to
a
meeting
with
representation
City
of
York
Council,
and
to
look
at
the
proper
siting
for
a
crossing.
The
Trust's
offered
to
support
the
school
in
securing
funding
for
the
crossing
is
genuine
and
sincere.
We
were
disappointed
as
the
school
r2
here
that
it
was
not
appropriate
to
source
this
from
the
section
106
contributions
for
this
40
homes.
W
I
would
stress
that
to
date,
Joseph
Rowntree,
Housing
Trust
have
already
spent
one
point.
Two
five,
eight
four,
eight
six
million
pounds
of
section
106
money
towards
David
Thorpe.
We
have
asked
the
City
of
York
Council,
how
much
of
that
money
has
been
spent
where
that
money
has
been
spent
and
whether
some
of
that
money,
where
some
of
that
1.25
million,
could
be
channeled
towards
a
crossing
for
the
school
I,
would
also
note.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
my
information
from
the
school
is
that
the
5th
Avenue
entrance
is
not
their
primary
entrance.
W
U
In
terms
of
our
officer
advice
for
this
application
that
you're
considering
for
40
additional
applicant
acts
or
additional
units,
given
what
the
outline
considered-
no,
it's
not,
but
that's
our
officers
planning
opinion
that
we're
offering
to
you
it's
an
additional
40
units.
They
already
have
permission
as
part
of
the
outline
cumulative
Lea
is
an
extra
force,
a
going
to
be
to
justify
a
reason
for
refusal.
No,
we
don't
think
that's
the
case
and
or
else
we
would
have
recommended
refusal
now
again
in
terms
of
the
highways.
U
What
we've
been
discussing,
it's
the
additional
40
that
we're
considering
highway
as
colleagues
are
happy
with
the
proposals.
They've
not
requested
any
other
access
into
the
site.
We've
considered
everything
that
we've
got
everything
in
the
round.
All
the
additional
information
we've
made
a
balance
judgment
that
we
should
and
got
to
the
point
of
recommending
approval.
F
T
AA
Excellent
Thank
You
chair,
it
would
be.
It
would
be
open
to
members
to
approve
the
application
subject
to
a
section
106
agreement
and
the
Planning
obligation
in
the
section
106
agreement
could
be
that
the
development
shall
not
commence
until
such
time
as
the
traffic
management
plan
has
been
submitted
and
approved
by
officers.
P
O
A
T
Well,
I
would
have
gone
further
and
and
said
because
of
each
so
critical.
We
ought
to
have
that
back
as
a
full
committee
that
construction
traffic
management
plan
I
appreciate
its
catch-22.
They
need
to
appoint
the
contractor
first
before
they
can
draw
the
final
document
up,
but
we
need
to
have
that
in
front
of
us
and
the
public
needs
to
see
it's
being
debated
and
the
public
need
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
it
as
well.
I.
A
Think
how's,
the
walk
has
given
the
scale
of
this
development.
The
proposal
that
we
have
that
this
this
comes
with
the
chair
and
vice
chair
I,
would
regard
as
sufficient
would
normally
be
so
in
circumstances
similar
to
these,
unless
other
members
of
the
committee
feels
strongly
I,
think
that
would
be
the
way
forward.
C
P
It's
more
of
a
question
really
given
the
so
it's
a
long
suffering
of
the
residents
of
Fifth
Avenue,
but
angling
intensity
and
I'm
useless
I.
Don't
really
know
how
it
works
in
terms
of
section
sort
of
106
stuff.
Is
there
any
way
that,
when
this
is
all
done,
we
can
make
that
road,
one
of
the
best
in
York.
S
If
part
of
the
outline
that
were
measures
in
place
to
put
in
construct
crossing
points,
I
believe
it's
been
a
while,
since
I've
looked
at
the
details
and
haven't
got
the
the
conditions
before
me,
but
the
work
conditions
specifically
related,
they
were
based
on
a
Lynx
access
study
that
was
carried
out
at
the
time
of
the
outline
that
has
been
postponed
because
it
would
have
been
damaged
potentially
by
construction
traffic.
But
the
intention
is
still
that
that
work
needs
to
be
carried
out.
A
T
E
Yeah
I
think
in
a
sense,
were
in
a
situation.
We've
got
the
tail
wagging
the
dog
that's
already
been
built
in
this
particular
situation
and
I
do
think.
The
residents
concerns
are
a
very
valid
issue
that
we
should
bear
in
mind
in
terms
of
how
this
application
is
dealt
with.
But
equally
there
is
a
question
of
non
determination
that
might
or
arise
and
I
think,
given
a
previous
deferral,
we
ought
to
be
in
a
position
where
we
can
make
a
sensible
determination,
given
what
has
just
been
said
in
passing
from
the
chair.
T
Second,
on
that
basis
of
something
sensible,
yes
I'll,
second
it
but
I
just
caution:
everybody
here
that
ever
deals
with
any
of
these
applications
again
just
to
remember
that
these
conditions
across
Europe
and
not
been
enforced.
This
is
not
unique
to
this
development
and
it's
not
unique.
My
Fifth
Avenue.
A
G
G
G
If
this
application
does
go
through
for
approval
and
and
I
will,
I
will
vote
to
follow
the
offices
recommendations
with
the
conditions
that
we've
that
we've
discussed
earlier.
It's
on
that
proviso
that
there
is
a
great
deal,
more
liaison
and
trust,
building
that
and
I'm.
Looking
at
you
directly,
sir,
that
yourself
and
the
trust
need
to
need
to
have
with
the
residents.
E
Counselor
Pavlovic
is
finished.
I
was
going
to
ask
that
we
bear
the
fact
that
we
are
deciding
an
application
in
front
of
us
and
not
necessarily
in
the
context
of
I,
understand
the
physical
problem
on
the
ground,
but
in
terms
of
deciding
of
supplication.
We
are
considering
what's
in
front
of
us
or
not
what's
going
well.
G
C
Would
caution
council
it's
very
seriously,
but
if
we
refuse
this,
this
will
go
to
appeal
and
then
we
lose
all
control,
because
they're
planning
respect
to
dictates
the
terms
conditions.
I
totally
accept
that
there
has
been
a
massive,
huge
loss
of
trust,
not
just
among
the
residents
of
Fifth
Avenue,
but
also
by
the
many
objections
from
the
Dolan
thought.
Residents.
I
think
we're
better
to
approve
it
with
strict
conditions
as
outlined,
and
also
that
we
would
extremely
expect
those
conditions
to
be
enforced
by
the
council's
enforcement
team
and
there'll
be
no
blind
eyes.
C
P
A
U
Terms
of
the
additional
conditions
we
have
got,
one
for
to
add
electronic
car
charging
point
scheme
to
be
agreed.
That's
one.
We
vote.
We
also
as
offices
of
picked
up
that
we
need
to
further
the
condition
with
regard
to
the
renewable,
the
renewable
energy
scheme.
We
doctors
needs
picking
up
that.
We
make
sure
we
secure
that
as
part
of
this
going
forward.
There's
also
the
update
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
those
are
covered
as
well
and
the
highway
19
change.
U
B
T
U
A
A
A
T
Just
wondered
at
the
very
end
because
the
issue
of
enforcement
is
such
a
topic,
but
it's
certainly
been
this
afternoon.
It
is
across
York
and
I'm
thinking
in
terms
of
the
LA
field
school
site.
Would
it
be
possible
to
put
an
agenda
item
on
at
the
end
of
a
planning
committee
meeting
where
enforcement
officers
came
and
talked
to
the
committee
about
how
enforcement
is
enforced
or
not
enforced
in
your
I.