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1. Declarations of Interest 00:08:06
2. Minutes 00:09:20
3. Public Participation 00:09:41
4. Plans List 00:09:49
4b) Oliver House, Bishophill Junior, York YO1 6ES (15/02645/FULM) 00:10:42
4a) Yorwaste, Harewood Whin, Tinker Lane, Rufforth, York (16/00357/FULM) 00:41:39
4c) Land West Of Hagg Wood, Broad Highway, Wheldrake, York (16/01534/REMM) 00:49:23
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A
Thank
you
very
much,
ladies
and
gentlemen.
I'm.
Sorry
for
that
slight
delay.
Welcome
to
this
meeting
of
the
planning
committee
I
have
apologies
from
counselor,
Shepherd
and
counselor
cannon
substitutes,
counts
of
dirty
and
councillor
Brooke
substitutes
and
just
apologies
from
council
voice
and
councillor
Richardson
with
no
substitutes.
A
Additional
papers
for
item
4a
because
they
were
originally
admitted
from
the
report,
but
that
includes
the
original
committee
report
from
the
meeting
of
the
12th
of
may,
so
you
probably
have
seen
them
all
before
we're
not
expecting
a
far
alarm
practice.
So
if
it
does
go
off,
it
will
be
for
real.
So
we
need
to
exit
the
building
here
down
the
stairs
and
out
of
the
out
of
the
door
that
you
came
into.
A
Please
go
to
ask
everybody
to
turn
off
their
mobile
phones
or
turn
them
to
silent,
and
can
I
remind
people
that
this
meeting
is
being
webcast
and
those
people
who
speak
to
us
will
be
webcast,
but
those
people
in
the
audience
will
not
be
seen
right.
Do
I
have
any
declarations
of
interest
members
councillor
Brooks.
C
E
A
A
A
We
have
no
items
of
general
interest
to
the
committee
that
only
one
is
registered
to
speak
on,
so
we
moved
to
the
plans
list.
The
way
the
system
works
is
that
on
each
item,
I
will
ask
for
an
officer
update
members
may
or
may
not
ask
questions
of
the
officers.
I
will
then
ask
the
speakers
to
come
forward.
You
have
three
minutes
each
and
I'll
give
you
a
30-second
warning.
A
Members
may
or
may
not
ask
you
questions
at
that
at
that
point,
and
then
we
move
into
debate
and
that
point
through
there's
no
further
members
of
the
public
and
can
no
longer
make
any
comments
and
taking
the
plans
list
in
the
order
of
four
be
Oliver
house,
because
there
are
quite
a
few
people
here
to
listen
to
that
application
or
speak,
then
for
a
your
waist
and
then
for
see
land
Western,
hegwood,
broad,
highway,
well,
Drake.
So.
A
On
page
page
21,
thank
you
just
before
we
start
I
received
in
the
post,
a
glossy
brochure
others
might
have
done
as
well.
You
know
I
also
received
a
number
of
emails
yesterday,
some
in
favor
and
some
against,
all
of
which
I've
forwarded
on
to
officers,
so
they
will
have
taken
that
into
account
in
the
update
that
you
have.
You
have
a
very
long
update
here.
I,
don't
know
if
people
have
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it,
whether
they
need
any
more
time.
G
It
divided
into
several
sections
condition
additional
conditions,
updating
the
plans
list,
revising
the
wording
of
several
additional
highway
conditions
and
informative,
and
also
an
amended
a
recommendation
in
respect
of
the
proposed
section,
106
agreement
and
then
at
the
at
the
at
the
end,
a
series
of
additional
responses
that
have
been
received
since
the
report
was
compared,
including
the
number
that
were
just
referred
to
by
the
chair.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
You
chair
in
relation
to
commuted
payments
I
just
want
member
said,
look
at
page
31
paragraphs
for
30
and
431
just
an
update
and
clarification.
Really.
It
has
been
suggested
that
in
this
part
of
the
report,
it
could
be
interpreted
of
being
critical
of
the
district
valuer
as
wish
to
set
the
record
straight
that
the
district
valuer
has
had
a
valuable
input
into
the
viability
assessment
of
the
scheme
proposing
the
framework
and
the
meth
ecology,
which
was
accepted
and
used
by
the
applicant.
H
As
the
scheme
has
developed
and
been
revised
and
specific
construction
requirements,
including
as
you'll
see
in
the
report
measures
to
minimize
impact
on
archaeological
deposits,
it's
been
possible
to
input
more
detail
than
site
specific
information
into
the
viability
assessment
model
and
it's
been
rerun
with
this
data
on
the
basis
of
that
officers.
Consider
the
commuted
sum
of
five
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
pounds
is
appropriate,
given
the
site
specific
circumstances
to
clarify
that
Thank
You
chair.
F
F
Able
to
come
on
the
site
visit
we're
just
looking
through
the
documents.
That's
probably
one
of
the
highways
and
and
obviously
parking
and
so
on
is
relevant
issue.
I.
Just
wonder.
I
can't
see
anything
in
the
report
that
rip
explains
what
the
arrangements
are
for
cycle
parking,
particularly
think
about
for
staff
who
might
be
working
in
the
building.
Given
that
parking
seems
to
be
a
key
issue,
is
there
some
Arrangements
in
that
does
not
see
any
condition
without
cycle
parking?
The
document
there.
G
Is
requirements
are
with
the
additional
condition
there
is
Erick
rom
section.
Lanny's
condition
is
18
and
19
for
the
provision
of
cycle
parking
in
accordance
with
our
standards
within
the
update.
The
final
highways
condition
involves
the
submission
and
approval
of
a
sustainable
travel
plan.
There
were
not
a
whole
range
of
that.
D
Have
to
say,
keep
on
saying
that
I
had
not
until
you
months
ago,
met
someone
who
was
in
favor
of
these
plans
and
now
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
this
gentleman,
who
smells
great
so
anyway.
What
I've
written
is
this
in
the
many
months
since
consultation
began
I've,
yet
to
meet
a
single
individual
who
approves
of
current
plans
for
the
Oliver
house
site.
D
York
has
many
good
examples
of
imaginative
and
well
integrated
development,
and
the
same
entitlement
is
especially
appropriate.
In
this
case,
a
afternoon's
decisions
will
have
effect
for
centuries
to
come.
For
this
reason,
I
request
a
recommendation
of
a
maximum
roof,
Ridge
height
of
three
stories
throughout.
Thank
you.
A
I
I
think
it's
a
really
good
thing
and,
however,
I
was
expecting
it
might
fit
the
existing
footprint
rather
than
God
beyond
dead,
because
he's
going
beyond
it
is
going
to
actually
cough
the
view
of
the
bar
walls
that
I
get
from
my
kitchen
window.
This
is
one
of
the
reasons
I
bought
property,
and
it's
also
like
a
sail
with
the
vulnerable
individuals.
They
can
have
a
reduced
light
entering
their
properties
and
some
of
these
individuals
suffer
with
depression
with
schizophrenia.
So
I
think
it's
really
important
that
this
is
taken
into
account
as
well.
J
Something
with
Lester
good
morning,
Thank
You,
chair
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
since
the
submission
of
this
application.
We
have
worked
positively
and
proactively
with
your
officers
to
overcome
consultees
concerns
regarding
design
impact
on
heritage
asset
and
planning
obligations.
My
client
would
like
to
thank
your
officers
in
this
respect.
The
proposal
would
see
this
centrally
located
brownfield
site
brought
forward
from
much
needed.
J
Sheltered
housing
development,
McCarthy
stone
proposes
to
deliver
34
retirement
living
apartments,
meeting
a
need
for
older
/
equals
housing
in
the
local
area,
which
is
recognized
as
critical
by
central
government.
I
have
noted
actions
received
against
the
proposed
development
and
hope
to
address
the
main
points
made.
Firstly,
is
the
potential
loss
of
amenity
a
priori
Street
and
fairfax
street.
The
building
rich
heights
have
been
kept
below
that
of
existing
buildings.
The
scheme
is
two-story
adjacent
to
two
storey
properties
and
lower
Priory
street
and
three-story
adjacent
to
the
three-story
properties
in
bishop
hill
jr.
J
The
development
is
sensitive
of
its
surrounding
context
and
sought
to
minimize
any
potential
impact
of
surrounding
residential
immunity
impact
on
heritage
assets
in
the
conservation
area.
The
building
heights
and
detailing
have
been
carefully
designed
to
be
in
keeping
with
the
surrounding
development
and
not
to
be
overbearing
or
dominant
impact.
An
important
views
from
the
city
wall
have
been
minimized
and
the
final
design
has
been
agreed
with
the
council's
conservation
officer.
The
existing
building
has
a
negative
impact
on
the
conservation
area,
and
this
development
offers
an
opportunity
to
replace
it
with
a
high
quality
development.
J
The
development
provides
14
parking
spaces
which
is
in
excess
of
the
city
centre.
Maximum
the
surrounding
streets
have
residential
permit
parking
restrictions
which
protect
them
from
on
street
parking,
and
the
site
is
highly
accessible
from
for
visitors
from
non
relaying
car
park
and
from
the
city
park
and
ride.
Service
disturbance
during
construction
period
can
be
controlled
by
environmental
health
restrictions
and
planning
missions.
Mccarthy's
don't
have
many
years
of
experience
of
developing
and
sensitive
brownfield
sites.
Finally,
objectors
are
concerned
that
the
planning
contribution
towards
affordable
housing
may
sway
members
in
favor
of
approval.
J
The
final,
affordable
housing
figure
was
agreed
with
officers
and
his
based
on
the
specific
viability
concerns
relation
to
the
development
of
this
site.
The
proposed
accommodation
will
allow
people
already
living
in
the
local
area
to
downsize
into
specialist
accommodation
and
remain
part
of
their
local
community
30
seconds.
J
Just
summarize
them.
The
main
planning
benefits
can
be
summarized
as
a
high-quality,
well-designed
development
endorsed
by
your
officers.
It
provides
34
units
of
specialist
housing
benefiting
from
new
homes,
bonus
and
affordable
housing
contributions
and
provides
housing
on
a
sustainable
brownfield
site
within
the
city
center,
reducing
pressure
to
build
and
greenfield
sites,
and
it's
as
ents
a
significant
investment
in
the
city,
offering
employment
opportunities
for
locals
from
construction
through
to
completion
and
operation.
I
hope
you
will
endorse
our
office
ins
recommendation
and
approve
the
application.
Thank
you
thank.
K
Thank
you
for
that.
Just
towards
the
end
you,
you
mentioned
downsizing
of
within
the
locality
there
for
freeing
up
those
properties,
and
you
said
a
little
more
about
that
and
and
how
there
may
be
some
litigation
against
well,
it
is
only
being
occupied
outside
of
the
area
which
I'd
like
to
learn
more
about
yep.
J
It's
on
the
basis
of
research
than
cocaine.
Stone
have
done
from
there
over
a
thousand
properties
that
they
have
nationwide
and
the
majority
of
residents
I
think
it's
approximately
thirty
percent
to
come
from
within
a
one-mile
radius,
which
is
very
unusual
for
any
sort
of
standard
housing
development,
and
it
demonstrates
that
then
it
obviously
as
there
as
the
catchment
gets
wider
than
the
percentage
increases
even
more.
K
J
Just
it's
it's
a
factor
of
the
sustainable
locations
that
we
that
we
tend
know
that
the
my
client
tends
to
develop
in
war
by
their
close
to
shops
and
services
they're
in
established
existing
neighborhoods,
where
people
already
live
and
want
to
stay,
but
they
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
have
accommodation
to
move
into.
So
this
gives
them
that
opportunity
to
stay
within
the
locality,
but.
J
L
J
A
J
That
lutely,
because
obviously
the
developments
are
managed
by
McCarthy
and
stone
after
they're
built
by
their
management
services
company.
So
we
have
a
vast
array
of
statistical
evidence
of
car
parking
levels.
It's
obviously
different,
depending
on
the
site,
specifics
of
the
location,
but
in
a
city
centre
location
like
this,
then
the
proportion
is
appropriate,
but.
A
A
J
A
M
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Elizabeth
Harris,
I'm,
79
years
old
and
I'm
here
to
support
this
application.
I
live
locally,
actually
in
bishopthorpe
three
miles
away
and
as
a
retiree
I
have
a
personal
interest
in
this
project.
I
have
three
points
to
make
the
location
for
this
retirement
development
is.
Our
deal
is
suited
to
the
many
amenities
which
prospective
buyers
will
be
considering.
It
is
within
a
five-minute
walk
of
the
recent
of
recently
awarded
bushiroad
shopping
complex.
The
rail
station
is
a
10-minute
walk
away,
as
is
the
doctor
surgery
nearby
memory
lane.
M
A
two
minute
walk
is
well
served
by
regular
buses.
In
addition,
we
have
theaters
restaurants,
cinemas
and
all
the
attractions
that
this
beautiful
city
has
to
offer,
and
here
is
the
important
points
all
of
these
amenities
are
easily
accessed
on
thoughts
there
for
dispensing
with
the
need
for
cars,
which
is
so
much
recommended
for
city
centers
when
choosing
an
area
for
later
living.
These
are
the
sort
of
essential
services
people
are
seeking.
M
People
who
buy
into
this
type
of
independent
place
of
living
are
usually
quiet,
good
living
people
who
are
likely
to
want
to
get
involved
with
the
present
local
community,
bringing
their
particular
strengths,
thus
creating
harmonious
living.
The
second
point
is
there
is
a
shortage
of
this
type
of
housing
in
York,
and
the
third
point
is
this:
given
that
this
city
is
saturated
with
student
accommodation
and
young
people's
apartments,
it
is
only
fair
that
older
people
should
be
able
to
enjoy
urban
living
and
all
that
it
has
to
offer.
We
are
worth.
M
A
You
very
much
mrs.
Harris.
Are
there
any
questions?
No
right?
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
So
that's
all
the
speakers,
so
we
move
in
to
debate.
Do
any
members
have
any
the
questions
for
officers
thrown
up
from
the
speaker's?
No.
In
that
case,
then
we
move
into
debate.
Anybody
like
to
kick
off
go
on.
Don't
you.
N
There
were
some
mothers
do,
I
them,
don't
they
yeah.
Those
who
went
on
site
yesterday
had
a
pretty
extensive
look
at
the
development
and
look
at
the
surrounding
area.
As
the
last
speaker
said,
an
ident
disagree
with
the
last
speaker
because
she
lives
not
very
far
away
from
me
and
I.
Don't
want
me
windows
and
it's
an
ideal
situation.
I
had
a
wry
smile
and
comment
was
made
about
travel
plan
and
one
wonders
work.
N
People
need
a
travel
plan
from
Oliver
house
if
they
go
shopping
in
to
town,
but
we'll
leave
that
one
on
the
table.
I
do
understand
people's
concerns.
Yes,
it
is
going
to
change
the
area
and
I
accept
that
there
may
well
be
some
artistic
license
with
the
montage
that
we've
got
in
front
of
us
on
the
screen.
N
Yes,
this
kind
of
accommodation
might
well
be
attracted
in
the
future,
so
I
have
unless
anybody
else
wants
to
say
a
great
deal
of
points
and
comments,
I'm
reasonably
happy
to
move
the
officers
officers
recommendation
at
the
same
time,
I
do
recognize
and
I
do
accept
that
the
people
that
live
in
that
area
will
feel
the
change.
But
I
think
the
need
for
this
kind
of
development
is
pretty
well
proven,
so
I'm
quite
happy
to
move
it.
O
Funnel
I'd
like
to
second
the
proposal
and
say
how
they
relieved
I,
am
to
see
that
dreadful
monstrosity
all
of
the
house
going
I
walk
past
around
that
area
several
times
a
week
and
and
I
look
very
carefully.
Today.
I
did
go
on
the
original
side
busy
some
years
ago,
which
is
why
I
didn't
go
yesterday
to
try
and
see
where
the
other.
O
The
objections
were
about
the
sideline
to
the
old
church
and
I
actually
can't
see
the
city
walls
at
all
when
the
trees
it
out
the
parking
issue,
they
always
seems
to
me
to
be
lots
of
proxy
drivers
lighting
around
there
waiting
for
a
call.
So
it's
never
seemed
to
be
an
area
other
than
when
you
get
around
to
priority,
where
there's
a
big
traffic
problem,
but
I
just
think
I,
acadia,
counselor,
Galvin,
said
and
I
could
never
understand
how
only
the
house
ever
got
permission
because
it's
pretty
awful
building
really.
C
You
chair
and
when
it
came
to
the
site
visit
on
on
Tuesday
morning
and
I
had
been
worried
when
the
thoughts
of
the
impact
of
building
of
this
size
and
if
you
like,
the
general
impact
of
such
the
possibility
of
overbearing
actually
occurring
with
the
massing
of
that
size,
but
looking
view
from
the
walls,
it
actually
works.
In
my
opinion
reasonably
well
with
be,
is
it
a
church
or
a
chapel
on
the
others,
the
street
and
looking
at
it
from
prior
history
from
the
other
end
of
private
Street?
I?
C
Think
it
actually
and
it
doesn't
stand
out
in
the
sense
of
actually
it's
at
the
end
of
a
long
line
of
houses
on
both
sides
of
street.
It
doesn't,
in
my
opinion,
from
what
I've
seen
a
jar
with
that
idea
whatsoever
and
I
think
the
concerns
about
the
views
of
the
church
tower
and
I'm
slightly
slightly
bemused
that
the
angles
of
view
that
was
shown
in
the
diagrams
that
on
Tuesday
morning
I
got
the
impression
that
there
was
actually
a
better
view
of
the
church
tower
from
the
walls
with
the
new
arrangement.
L
Thanks
yeah
I'd
like
to
make
one
or
two
observations
just
to
reassure
those
in
objection
that
we
have
listened
to
them.
Buns,
pretty
much.
Echoing
what
my
colleagues
have
said.
What
are
the
things
I
noticed
at
the
site
meeting
was
that
a
three-story
Victorian
Terrace
on
Priory
streets
is
pretty
much
the
same
height
as
a
four-story,
modern
house,
modern,
building
and
I
think
most
of
all.
L
Yes,
there
is
a
requirement
for
retirement
living
that
is
definitely
going
to
be
for
retirement
living,
because,
if
we're
not
careful-
and
we
reject
this,
the
next
application
that
comes
in
may
well
be
for
student
accommodation.
You
know
how
often
we've
all
been
criticized
about
that
so
I'm
going
to
support
this
application.
Thank
You
counselor.
A
F
Yes,
I
think
we
all
welcome
more
provision
for
our
aging
population
and
I
recognize
it.
It
includes
some
of
us
a
tremor
table
and
perhaps
I've
been
more
conscious
of
this
recently
with
my
own
sort
of
parents.
Thinking
about
you
know
the
needs
of
people
that
their
age
have
to
be
able
to
be
independent,
but
also
have
access
to
services.
So
you
know
do
appreciate
this
I.
A
The
development
is
underway
and
I
suspect
will
result
in
a
twenty
percent
profit
for
the
developer
there
to
experience
not
to
have
that
happen
and
I
just
feel
that,
yet
again,
another
opportunity
has
been
lost
for
affordable
housing
other
where
we're
going
to
build
it
with
the
local
plan.
We
have
I,
don't
know
and
I
just
feel
that,
whilst
it's
I'm
sure
going
to
be
a
very
attractive
building
and
an
attractive
asset,
it
will
be
for
the
affluent.
Where
are
the
poorer,
older
people
going
to
live.
A
Just
I
I'm
happy
to
support
this
application.
I
do
think
that
the
applicants
have
done
a
lot
from
the
first,
the
first
plans
to
address
some
of
the
issues.
Some
of
the
concerns
that
were
raised
I
think
that
the
Priory
street
itself
is
clearly
of
buildings
of
quite
quite
substantial
chapels
and
tall
terraces,
so
I
think
from
from
that
side,
I
think
the
scale
the
scale
fits
and
I
think
it
does
step
down
towards
fairfax
street
and
there
and
the
smaller
terraces
of
the
bishop,
the
bishop
hill
area.
A
A
Then
you
will
be
able
to
if
this
is
proved,
which
I
think
is
a
good
which
is
which
is
a
much
an
improvement
and,
of
course,
to
say
at
the
moment
you
can't
you
can
barely
see
the
territory
because
of
the
trees,
and
nobody
would
suggest
that
we
should
should
remove
the
trees,
so
I
think
I.
Think
when
you
have
a
city
center
site.
It
is,
it
is
about
balance,
and
there
are
times
when
a
view.
That's
that's
appreciated
now
changes,
because
otherwise
we
would
end
up
with
novell.
A
Don't
know
development
at
all,
and
a
lot
of
the
city
center
is
based
on
on
glimpses,
rather
than
ever
view,
rather
than
than
a
whole
Vista.
I
think
that
this
application
does
fulfill
a
need.
Notwithstanding.
Council
Derbyshire's
comments
about
about
price,
but
it
does
fulfill
a
need,
and
these
kind
of
developments
are
needed
in
the
city
in
order
to
encourage
and
help
people
stay
independent
for
as
long
as
they
possibly
can.
A
If
everybody's
happy
and
understands
what
they
say.
The
resolution
would
be
to
delegate
to
Assistant
Director
of
Planning
and
sustainable
development,
to
grant
conditional
plan
commission
subject
to
the
conditions
set
out
in
the
original
report
and
amended
by
the
update
and
then
the
prior
completion
of
a
satisfactory
agreement
made
pursuant
to
section
106
of
town
and
country
planning
act
which
covers
affordable
housing.
A
Finalizing
appropriate
position
to
prevent
development
and
sell
such
time
as
the
freehold
interest
in
the
site
has
been
adequately
bound
by
the
planning
obligations
under
section
106
of
the
town
and
country
planning
act
1990.
So
that
is
what
is
rot,
okay,
just
so
that
avoidance
of
doubt.
So,
therefore,
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
all
those
in
favor.
Of
that,
please
show.
Are
there
any
I'm,
sorry
so
again,
she's
counting
still
any
against
when
against
any
abstentions
that
that
that
is
then
approved
with
those
conditions.
Thank
you
very
much
right.
F
M
A
Members,
we
have
an
applicator
full
application
in
front
of
us
for
the
your
waist
hair
would
win
site.
The
application
is
the
same
as
a
previous
application
that
was
approved
in
May,
with
the
exception
of
a
cycle
track
running
along
the
b12
24,
which
has
now
been
extracted
from
the
106
agreement.
Do
we
have
an
officer
update
there.
H
A
F
As
you
might
expect,
I
strongly
object
to
this
proposal.
I
think
we
have
a
hierarchy
of
road
users.
We
have
a
transport
strategy,
we
try
and
do
everything
we
can
wherever
there
is
funding
available
from
developers
to
provide
cycle
provision
and
as
to
my
knowledge,
although
I
cannot
recognize,
there
is
a
route
which
looks
rather
circuit
is
on
there
too,
to
link
for
this
village
of
refer
to
the
city.
F
The
obviously
most
direct
route
from
rough
of
into
the
city
would
be
along
the
the
be
road
which
is
not
ideal
in
any
sense
for
cycling,
and
this
proposal
was
to,
as
I
understand
it,
particularly
to
take
account
of
the
heavy
goods
vehicles
which
will
be
accessing
the
site
from
that
road
and
two
separate
cyclists
and
pedestrians,
who
might
still
be
using
that
route
from
this
heavy
traffic
and
and
I've
not
seen
anything
in
here.
That
actually
explains
how
much
this
is.
F
L
Jaron
I
have
to
confess
that
I
haven't
actually
seen
this
cycle
track,
but
of
course
it's
not
necessarily
just
to
come
into
your
because
there
are
plenty
of
places
elsewhere
that
can
be
reached
and
as
an
occasional
cyclist
Allah
did
come
in
on
the
bus
today,
I
would
much
rather
be
using
the
cycle
track
well
away
from
a
main
road
as
I
do
to
get
into
town.
He
was
the
riverbank
one
and
I
think
altogether.
That
may
be
rather
safer,
but
I'll
take
counsel.
Erdogan's
advice
is
a
much
more
frequent.
Cyclists
than
I
am.
H
Just
in
respect
to
council
gonz
comment
just
to
remind
members
that
clearly,
in
terms
of
section
106
obligations,
they
are
too
Missy
8
the
nature
of
development.
Here
we
have
a
proposal
way.
We
do
have
alternative
provision
that
can
be
made
and
that
basically
would
seem
reasonable
to
retain
the
original
agreement
with
extra
provisioning
place,
as
shown
by
the
the
purple
route.
Sundra
would
wish
to
confirm.
F
Am
I
right
not
right
saying
the
alternative
route
was
already
be:
it's
not
an
it,
not
something
that's
been
put
in
place.
Instead
of
this,
it
was
already
planned
and
executed.
So
it's
not
it's
not
an
alternative.
It's
it's
saying
that
that
is
already
there.
So
we
don't
need
to
provide
anything
in.
In
essence,
I
think.
A
If
we
don't
have
any
other
comment,
I'm
going
to
add
my
ten
penneth
whilst
I
understand
counselor,
gonz
frustration
I.
This
is
the
dreaded
sill
we're
being
advised
by
officers
that
that
we
really
wouldn't
have
a
leg
to
stand
on.
If
we
didn't
approve
it,
when
there
is
already
provision
and
there's,
no,
therefore,
no
overriding
argument
to
require
it,
and
so
I
will
be
supporting
this
application.
And
given
that
we've
got
a
mover
in
and
we
have
a
seconder,
we
did
have
a
second.
Can
we
move
to
the
vote?
All
those
in
favor.
J
A
A
P
Yes,
condition:
eight
should
be
altered
to
make
reference
to
the
first.
Ten
meters
of
the
access
road
from
broad
highway
need
to
be
tarmacked,
and
since
the
report
was
written,
two
letters
have
been
received
from
resins
the
first
letter
racist
concerns
about
the
safety
of
pedestrians,
using
the
proposed
access
road
and
questions,
whether
there
will
be
protective
barriers
or
a
raised
curb
to
mark
pedestrian
areas.
P
A
Okay,
are
we
have
what
sorry
with
one
speaker
and
that's
in
pick
who's
the
agent
in
support?
You
don't
fit
right.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
right.
Moving
to
debate,
then
comments
cancel
the
dhaba
sure,
given
that
we're
not
psychic,
and
if
residents
don't
show
it
to
protest,
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
we're
meant
to
glean
that
they
do
or
what
their
concerns
are.
N
Yeah
we've
dealt
with
this
in
essence
before
and
unless,
quite
frankly,
there
are
serious
planning
objections
to
what
is
being
proposed
in
way
of
the
buildings,
etc,
etc.
The
principal
has
been
accepted
by
this
committee.
I'll
beat
on
a
narrowboat
permission,
has
in
essence
being
granted
to
outline
so
I,
don't
see
any
reason
why
we
don't
know,
go
forward
and
I'm
going
to
move
the
officers
recommendation
subject
to
the
slight
amendment.
The
conditions
as
we
mentioned.
A
N
P
F
Gon
say
something
on
this
I
think
yeah
but,
as
has
already
been
stated,
the
general
principle
and
everything's
already
agreed
at
a
previous
meeting.
This
is
actually
looking
at
just
landscaping
and
detail
and
from
the
description
of
the
access
road.
It
does
sound
to
me
as
though
it
is
of
a
being
designed
as
sympathetically
as
possible,
given
the
constraints
in
the
need
for
heavy
heavy
year
heavier
vehicles
using
it
and
I.
Think,
as
the
officers
said,
five
meters
presumably
allows
I
noticed.
Maybe
clarify
this
point.
F
This
there's
a
couple
of
passing
points
identified
and
I'm,
assuming
that
the
width
is
being
determined,
somebody's
wide
enough
for
an
HGV
to
pass
somebody
who's
walking
along
there,
but
not
sufficient
for
two
vehicles
to
pass
and
they
would
have
to
use
the
passing
places.
So
it's
it's
safe
from
that
point
of.
P
View
that
that's
Clara's,
like
that
yeah,
that's
quite
full
line
of
sight,
there's
normally
a
hgv
be
around
2.5
meters,
2.6
meters
maps,
and
so,
if
there's
just
a
heavy
vehicle,
passing
a
pedestrian
be
plenty
of
space.
It's
just
for
precaution
case
on
the
rare
occasions
too,
heavy
vehicles
met
each
other.
Thank
you.
Okay,.