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From YouTube: June 18, 2015 Regular Board Meeting
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See the agenda here: http://agenda.oneclay.net/publishing/ap-agendas.html
A
C
C
D
Please
join
me
Lord.
We
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
for
us
to
come
together
and
and
debate
the
important
needs
and
means
of
our
our
school
board
today
and
have
the
opportunity
to
do
that
and
the
peace
and
the
comfort
of
our
country.
We
ask,
though,
that
you
embrace
the
families
that
have
recently
been
undergoing
tragedies
in
our
communities.
Give
them
grace,
give
them
peace
even
closer
to
home.
We've
had
families
that
are
part
of
this
administration
Brian
and
on
Buffalo's,
family
and
Bill
Rawls
family.
D
We
ask
that
you
put
your
grace
and
peace
around
them
protective
hedge
lift
and
keep
that
family
through
their
trying
times.
We
thank
you
for
the
men
and
women
that
serve
our
country,
so
nobly
protecting
us
and
giving
us
our
liberties.
We
ask
that
we
ask
that
you
watch
over
them.
We
ask
you
to
watch
over
the
firemen
and
policemen
that
are
out
there
protecting
this
day
to
day,
and
we
thank
you
for
all
the
liberties
that
you've
given
us,
and
we
ask
all
this
in
Christ's
name
Amen,
please
join
me.
D
C
Thank
You
mr.
Sykes.
At
this
time,
I
would
like
to
call
to
order
the
Clay
County
School
Board
meeting
June
18
2015
to
welcome
all
the
citizens
of
Clay
County
I
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
out
of
your
busy
schedule
to
attend
tonight's
meeting.
This
meeting
is
our
opportunity,
as
your
elected
representatives,
to
collaborate
openly
and
make
decisions
that
will
decide
the
future
direction
of
our
public
schools
and
the
education
of
our
children
here
in
Clay
County.
C
If
you
wish
to
address
the
board,
there
will
be
an
opportunity
to
speak
for
three
minutes.
Please
fill
out
a
yellow
card
which
you
will
find
located
in
the
back
of
the
room,
indicating
the
specific
item
number
or
the
topic
that
you
wish
to
speak
about,
and
please
turn
it
in
promptly.
You
can
bring
that
up
here
and
give
it
to
Miss
Kornegay
who's
sitting
right
here
on
the
corner.
C
Please
note
that
no
additional
cards
will
be
accepted
once
the
board
moves
to
the
discussion
agenda.
Your
participation
is
welcome
and
appreciated,
and
before
we
move
into
the
first
item,
I
would
just
like
to
open
tonight's
meeting
with
a
brief
statement
of
clarification
concerning
the
June
8th
special
meeting
on
Monday
June
8th,
the
school
board
held
a
special
meeting,
which
was
called
for
by
the
superintendent
at
the
May
21st
regular
meeting
and
was
legally
advertised
in
accordance
with
the
Florida
Statutes
that
governs
special
school
board
meetings.
C
I
was
completely
caught
off
guard
as
I'm
sure
many
of
you
were
by
the
accusation
from
two
veteran
school
board
members
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
that
the
meeting
had
not
been
properly
advertised
and
as
such
was
illegal.
I
was
deeply
disappointed
and
personally
offended
at
the
accusations
that
were
made
not
only
to
the
superintendent
and
mr.
Sykes,
but
to
the
very
idea
that
I
as
a
sitting
chairman,
would
allow
an
illegal
meeting
to
take
place
and
would
put
to
question
the
core
of
my
integrity.
C
I
can
sure
you
that
at
no
time
did
I
ever
doubt
the
legal
legal
status
of
our
meeting.
Nevertheless,
for
the
benefit
of
the
board
and
the
public
I
requested
a
legal
opinion
from
our
attorney,
and
he
assured
this
board
that
we
were
in
solid
legal
standing
with
the
proper
advertising
to
hold
the
special
meeting.
C
However,
two
board
members
declined
to
accept
this
professional
advice,
continued
their
protests
and
walked
out
of
the
meeting
inviting
unnecessary
controversy
in
the
media
and
once
again
raising
public
doubt
about
the
competency
of
this
school
board.
Let
me
be
very
clear
at
no
time
prior
to
the
meeting
did
either
of
the
two
board
members
reach
out
to
me
as
chair
or
anyone
else
in
the
district
to
express
their
concerns
regarding
the
legitimacy
of
the
meeting,
which
would
have
been
the
professional
thing
to
do.
C
This
would
not
have
violated
Sunshine
Law
I
would
have
taken
action
and
responded
to
their
concern
without
having
to
create
such
public
embarrassment.
I
want
to
clarify
for
the
record
that
the
June
8
special
meeting
was
properly
advertised
and,
as
such
was
a
legally
conducted
meeting.
This
has
been
substantiated
not
only
by
Florida
law
but
by
legal
opinion
of
the
previous
school
board
attorney
during
the
regular
school
board.
C
C
Our
employees
or
the
advancement
of
the
school
district
I
want
to
assure
my
fellow
board
members
and
the
citizens
of
this
county
that
I
always
have
and
always
will
continue
to
take
very
seriously
my
oath
to
support
and
defend
the
Constitution
of
the
United
States
and
the
state
of
Florida.
It
is
my
commitment
to
each
of
you
to
serve
with
the
utmost
integrity
and
honor
and
at
no
time
will
I
ever
compromise.
My
core
principles
for
personal
or
political
gain.
C
C
C
G
Years
when
someone
fills
out
a
green
card
on
an
item
that
was
on
the
consent
agenda,
it
was
pulled
to
the
discussion
so
that
they
would
be
given
the
courtesy
to
be
able
to
speak
to
the
item
before
the
board
votes
on
it.
It
seems
a
little
ridiculous
to
have
someone
come
speak
on
an
item
after
it's
already
been
voted
up.
H
C
I
To
agree
with
with
the
discussion,
because
I
think
person
in
the
audience
is
not
going
to
feel
that
they
have
anything
to
say
if
it's
going
to
go
on
the
consent
agenda
and
automatically
be
approved
there,
so
I
think
if
we're
allowed
to
put
something
in
I,
think
it
should
be
pulled
to
the
discussion
at
that
point,
because
the
whole
point
we
want
to
speak
to
it
is
so
that
you
guys
can
have
discussion
about
it
and
it
doesn't
get.
You
know
carte
blanch
approval.
I
What
I
wanted
to
talk
about
is
I
did
print
this
again
out
on
the
16th
on
Tuesday
and
I'm
rolling
along
thinking.
Everything's
fine
I
get
a
call
from
one
of
our
members
or
sets
by
members
this
afternoon
about
an
hour
before
I
leave
to
come
here
in
a
panic
mode,
wanting
to
know
why
we
are
privatizing
a
programmer
analyst
position
and
I
thought.
I
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
cut-off
date.
As
for
this
position,
I
do
know
that
back
in
March,
we
had
to
program
programmer
analyst
positions
that
were
cut
on
the
allocations
with
miss
Adams
was
still
here
and
then
I,
and
so
of
course
they
both
were
our
members.
They
called
us,
they
were
upset
that
their
positions
had
been
cut
and
they
were
having
to
go
and
apply
and,
of
course,
that's
a
very
specified
very
specific
area.
So
we
have
to
have
a
lot
of
talks
with
our
IT
people.
Saying
look.
I
You
know
maybe
go
get
some
more
training
to
make
you
more
marketable,
but
then
to
hear
that
it
goes
back
on
the
agenda
to
be
subbed
out
or
contracted
out.
Definitely
gives
me
great
concern,
and
so
I
would
like
for
someone
to
give
me
give
us
some
explanation.
So
our
folks
know
that
this
isn't
a
trend
that
we're
going
to
see
because
whenever
we
start
subcontracting
things
out,
our
people
get
very
nervous.
J
That
position
isn't
being
subbed
out,
it's
currently
being
interviewed
for
we've,
yet
to
find
somebody
with
the
skills
to
manipulate
our
very
very
old
version
of
terms,
and
that
position
has
a
lot
of
primary
responsibility
and
payroll.
So
if
we
want
to
continue
to
meet
payroll
without
any
hiccups,
we're
going
to
sub
it
out
until
we
find
a
person
to
hire
for
it
and
I
believe
that's
one
of
the
duties
in
the
two
jobs
that
are
it.
Has
it
already
closed
and
y'all
been
interviewing,
or
is
that
one
of
the
two
that
are
open?
J
It's
already
closed?
We
just
haven't
hired
for
it
yet,
and
that
person's
contract
ends
June
30th.
So
we're
going
to
keep
paying
everybody
if
it's
okay
with
everybody
and
when
we
get
somebody
qualified
to
fill
the
position,
we're
going
to
hire
it
and
put
them
under
the
Florida
Retirement
System
in
our
allocation.
L
L
C
C
N
C
F
F
N
N
Well,
it
goes
from
327
million
to
330
almost
31
million.
It's
about
four
million
dollar
difference,
so
I
don't
understand
and
don't
pretend
to
understand
finances.
There's
all
these
differences
in
what
you
can
spend,
what
you
can't
spend
what
you
have
spent,
what
you're
planning
to
spend
I,
don't
get
it
don't
pretend
to.
N
But
what
did
jump
out
at
me
was
when
you
look
at
the
second
back
up
PDF
file
on
page
2,
very
first
thing
in
there
is
instruction
services
and
there's
a
additional
$525,000
there
there's
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
extra
for
support
services
on
the
next
page,
there's
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
school
administration
and
there's
actually
a
reduction
of
a
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
actually
total
transportation.
Services
comes
out
to
minus
three
hundred
and
almost
forty
thousand.
What
I'm
wondering
is
how
much
of
this
is
actually
going
toward
education.
N
How
much
is
this
right
on
the
front
lines
going
for
teachers
instruction
materials
paying
more
for
district
personnel?
Some
of
the
district
personnel
have
gotten
new
positions
whose
salary
they're
raised
in
their
income
is
half
of
what
some
of
your
food
services
and
bus
drivers
are
making
half
for
one
one
step
up
into
a
new
position,
so
I'm
kind
of
concerned
about
the
people
on
the
front
line,
I've
heard
at
just
about
every
school
board,
meeting
all
kinds
of
accolades
given
to
our
military
service
members,
some
of
which
are
here
I'm.
N
All
for
that
I
have
tremendous
respect
for
those
who
serve
the
public
in
any
way,
and
our
teachers
and
our
bus
drivers
and
all
the
workers
in
our
school
that
are
one-on-one
face-to-face
with
those
students
every
day.
Those
are
the
are
our
Lake
local
Clay
County,
frontline
troops.
Those
are
our
troops.
We
need
to
support
them
first
and
foremost,
because
they're
the
ones
that
are
going
to
win
the
battle
to
move
Clay
County
forward
to
compete
with
st.
John's
they're,
the
ones
that
are
going
to
win
the
battle
in
Funday
internationally.
N
C
L
Red
gush
out
429,
Madeira,
Drive
orange
part.
This
is
a
write-off
of
uncollectible
checks
at
the
schools.
A
person
isn't
going
to
back
up
a
check
should
and
write
it,
but
there's
two
in
particularly:
it's
got
my
attention
and
I'll
go
across
the
street
right
now
and
collect
your
$500
for
you
from
Eiling
and
Grill
I've
done
collections.
I
was
in
service
days
in
six
years.
Only
ever
had
one
cheque:
I
couldn't
collect
and
I
didn't
hurt
anybody.
L
But
if
you
like
I'll,
go
over
to
island
girl
right
now
collect
that
$500
check
and
the
other
one
is
Canyon
physical
therapy
175.
What's
this,
you
can't
collect
money
from
businesses.
I
see
a
way
they're
going
to
be
taking
advantage
of
us
and
I'm
sure.
Mr.
Sykes
can
probably
address
the
fact.
If
somebody
writes
you
a
check
for
over
five
hundred
dollars,
I'm
sure
there's
some
legal
problems
there
for
the
companies
that
did
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
C
J
I
tell
you
it
always
amazes
me
what
a
team
family's
become
when
they're
putting
children
and
grandchildren
through
school,
and
we
had
a
few
of
these
students.
We
were
able
to
recognize
last
month,
Middleburg
high
school
had
their
senior
awards
night.
The
same
night.
We
had
our
school
board
meeting,
so
we
couldn't
quite
get
to
every
student
in
Clay
County,
but
for
13
years
to
never
miss
a
day
of
school
is
absolutely
phenomenal.
I
hope
this
young
person
goes
into
something
that
we
can
hire
in
the
Clay
County
school
district.
J
J
You
know
this
has
been
quite
a
year
in
the
Clay
County
School
District
on
several
fronts,
but
tonight
is
the
last
meeting
for
it's
just
absolutely
amazing,
miss
Toni
McCabe.
What
what
she's
brought
to
this
school
district
and
to
serve
for
30
years
and
be
29
years
old
I,
don't
even
know
how
she
pulled
it
off
with
the
grace
that
she
does
every
day.
But
somebody
that's
just
done
a
tremendous
job
for
us,
miss
McCabe.
Would
you
join
me
and
mr.
Sykes
and
Dan?
Would
you
like
to
tell
us
what
we're
doing
here.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
First
of
all,
I
have
to
say
that
Pete,
McCabe
and
I
both
are
very
excited
about
retirement,
but
we
love
public
education
and
we
love
Clay
County.
So
our
thoughts
right
now
are
all
filled
with
gratitude,
and
it's
because
of
the
relationships
that
we've
had
with
all
of
you
and
I
have
to
say:
I
have
been
so
fortunate
to
have
a
hard-working
HR
team.
So
I
must
take
a
moment
and
thank
dr.
Henry,
Terry,
Stan,
alona's,
Linda,
Lancaster,
Sam,
Wright,
Marilyn
ware
and
all
of
the
HR
team.
B
C
You
miss
McKay,
I,
know
you're
going
to
be
greatly
missed.
Okay.
The
next
item
that
was
on
the
agenda
was
a
presentation
from
Garber
Ford
I
believe
this
is
going
to
be
rescheduled,
possibly
in
August
I.
Don't
think
they
could
make
it
tonight.
So
the
next
item
up
is
scheduled.
Citizens
request.
We
have
one
miss
Isla
brain.
O
Well,
my
information
is
on
record,
but
my
name
is
isla
Breen.
Okay,
over
the
past
few
years,
I've
come
before
you
to
ask
you
for
answers
on
salary
benefits,
health
benefits,
layoffs
of
teachers.
Everything,
however,
I,
have
also
seen
a
problem
that
I
feel
I
need
to
address
and
see
if
we
can
move
forward
with
it.
O
A
O
Are
the
scapegoats
of
learning
everything
new
is
tried
on
those
grades?
First,
by
the
time
these
little
souls
reach
fourth
grade.
We
are
off
on
another
tangent
seeking
answers
in
a
new
curriculum.
We
keep
assuring
those
at
4th
grade
and
above
have
any
idea
of
how
to
work
in
that
new
set
of
standards.
Yet
we
test
new
strategies
and
old
tests
that
are
no
longer
significant
due
to
learning
new
theories
or
current
strategies
that
are
tested
in
unproven
tests.
O
Common
Core
is
merely
our
latest
example
of
insanity,
just
as
students
begin
to
form
their
own
thoughts
and
follow
the
processes
of
the
curriculum
it
changes
now.
I,
don't
want
anybody
to
think
I
believe
in
stagnant
thinking.
As
long
as
the
methods
are
clear,
defined
and
easy
to
follow.
Most
students
and
teachers
are
successful.
Families
are
happy,
as
the
students
become
lifelong
learners.
If
I
attempted
to
share
with
you
a
few
weeks
ago,
this
has
been
a
single
most
stressful
year.
Almost
anyone
in
teaching
in
Clay
County
has
ever
endured.
O
O
Let's
help
our
students
prep
for
the
next
school
year
correctly
during
the
summer
/
autumn
of
2016
summer.
School
in
my
belief,
should
be
autumn
school.
This
approach,
this
in
a
better
manner
every
single
one
of
us
knows
having
summer
school
began
shortly
after
school
ends
in
regular
school
year
is
the
absolute
pits.
No
child
or
teacher
has
the
stamina
to
concentrate
or
learn
after
being
beaten
up
by
the
end
of
year.
Testing
and
assessments
required.
O
We
don't
even
mention
the
heat
again.
This
is
the
perfect
time
to
introduce
autumn
school
at
all
sites,
not
just
junior
and
senior
High's.
Every
single
school
autumn
school
is
preparatory
as
well
as
remedial.
Of
course,
there
are
some
holes
that
need
filling
and
should
be
remediated.
However,
this
is
where
students
can
be
charmed
into
exploring
new
worlds.
Concepts
to
be
taught
can
be
introduced
through
project-based
exploration.
O
This
is
where
we
grab
their
attention
and
tell
them
if
they
want
more,
just
wait
until
school
starts.
So
much
can
be
accomplished
this
way,
especially
we
open
up
to
math
social
studies
and
science.
In
addition
to
reading
summer
camp,
for
example,
every
Cub
Scout
troop
has
derby
car
races,
the
scouts
need
to
build
the
cars
and
fine-tune
them,
so
they
can
win
the
race.
Why
can't
something
like
this
project
be
offered
during
autumn
school?
But
in
engineers
can
build
toothpick
bridges
and
test
them
for
load-bearing
strength.
O
Our
dynamic
riders
can
begin
producing
a
school
newsletter
for
the
students.
Young
photographers
can
meet
with
student
PowerPoint
developers
to
create
presentations
for
back-to-school
nights
at
their
schools.
Give
those
young
Jim
Harbin
winners
that
we
all
just
congratulate
short
time
ago,
a
goal
to
achieve
beyond
the
competition
honor
and
build
on
their
skills
secondary
school
students
can
earn
some
of
their
community
service
hours,
helping
to
plan
and
set
up
classroom
sport
fields,
facilities
and
gardens
at
every
site.
O
One
of
my
students,
a
few
years
ago,
spent
time
during
the
summer
explaining
creating
a
better
layout
of
my
classroom
since,
in
his
words,
I
know
how
you
teach
and
I
know
the
third
grade
students
from
this
year.
He
was
right.
The
classroom
worked
very
well.
The
next
year
enrichment
will
lead
our
students
to
higher
levels
and
build
determination
to
succeed,
we're
constantly
bodging
them
with
remediation
dolls.
Any
desire
to
learn
the
creativity
is
what
is
missing
from
our
curriculum.
Just
how
grey
can
we
make
our
students
lives?
O
Why
are
we
not
accessing
more
experts
in
their
fields,
such
as
the
female
eco
engineer
that
I
called
into
my
class
to
motivate
our
students
who
needed
the
little
extra
attention,
encouragement
and
belief
in
themselves?
The
discussion
was
incredible,
and
students
asked
questions
about
the
field
and
what
kind
of
education
they
need
to
become
an
engineer.
It
wasn't
limited
unis
boys,
the
girls
were
asking
as
well
projects
that
address
the
what
I've
called
the
bubble:
students,
those
who
never
receive
the
extras,
because
they
are
B
and
C
students
they're,
not
gifted
and
they're,
not
solo.
O
They
need
extra
help,
have
proven
that
these
students,
those
B
and
C
students,
will
be
the
leaders
in
our
society.
They
respond
enthusiastically
to
this
type
of
motivation.
Those
students
are
ready
and
anxiously
waiting
for
school
to
begin
parents
are
willing
to
support
these
activities
financially.
They
are
searching
for
enrichment
classes
for
their
students.
This
is
especially
true
at
the
elementary
level
many
families
are
paying
for
child
care
throughout
the
summer
vacation
for
far
less
than
active
enrichment.
O
This
idea
needs
to
be
developed,
built
with
help
from
families
and
teachers
guided
and
supported
by
our
leaders.
You,
we,
the
teachers,
families
and
community
need
time
and
support
from
you,
the
school
board
and
superintendent
to
make
life
better
for
our
chill.
You
are
the
missing
part
of
this
entire
equation.
We
need
your
advocacy.
You
need
to
tell
the
Department
of
Education
enough
is
enough.
Let's
develop
Clay
County
Schools
into
the
role
model
for
the
entire
state.
C
O
O
What
I'm
talking
about
I
married
a
Florida
boy,
so
I'm?
Okay,
when
I
was
there,
we
noticed
the
same
gaping
hole
because
we
were
going
through
the
change
of
the
standards
as
well,
and
the
biggest
part
that
was
the
problem
is
the
kids
came
back
almost
immediately.
Two
weeks
is
not
enough
time
to
detox
from
everything
we've
done
during
the
year.
O
It
just
isn't,
but
if
you
start
about
two
weeks
before
the
end
of
before
they
have
to
report
back
and
then
back
that
up
another
couple,
you
can
do
two
and
three
week
sessions
that
will
raise
your
scores
tremendously.
If
that's
what
you're
worried
about,
but
what
they
really
do.
Is
they
motivate
the
kids
that
garden
that
I
have
at
my
school
I
know
a
couple
of
you
have
been
out
there
to
see
it
I
thought
at
first
it
was
just
crazy,
California,
lady,
coming
in
trying
to
learn
how
to
grow
things
in
Florida.
O
What
was
awesome
awesome
where
the
amount
of
little
people
are
schooled
and
I?
Consider
anybody
under
4th
grade
a
little
person.
They
came
to
our
class
and
they
asked
questions
our
second-grade
teachers
had
a
jaunt
through
the
garden
and
they
got
to
ask
whatever
they
wanted.
My
students
did
the
presentation
for
them.
I,
don't
present
the
Veterans
Day
performance
written
by
me
at
my
school
I
hope
the
kids
collect
the
information
but
they're
the
ones
doing
the
performance
they're,
the
ones
who
put
it
together.
They
are
the
ones
who
pick
what
they
want
to
say.
O
O
They
take
home
a
five
gallon
container
filled
with
the
soil
area,
they
need
and
the
seeds,
and
we
have
a
whole
group
of
kids
that
live
in
apartments
have
no
yard,
but
they
take
those
buckets
home
and
they
come
back
the
next
year
and
tell
me
how
excited
they
were
to
give
the
squash
to
their
mom
for
dinner.
How
excited
they
were
to
have
the
beans
my
garden
day,
everybody
knows
come
and
pick
during
the
summer.
I'm,
not
there
every
day
do
what
needs
to
be
done.
O
C
C
C
J
Well,
you
gave
me
the
perfect
segue,
because
we
actually
have
quite
a
few
exciting
things
going
on
this
summer
that
I'm
aware
of
and
are
over
the
past
several
years.
Our
schools
have
gone
really,
probably
what
three
or
four
years
from
about
zero
stem
robotics
clubs
after
school
and
elementary
schools
to
23.
J
So
we're
trying
to
pick
up
that
slack
where
we
can
there's
just
an
incredible
amount
of
extracurricular
activities
going
on
in
and
out
of
elementary
schools
and
junior
High's,
and
we
might
have
to
ride
around
one
day
and
see
see
what
you're
looking
at
and
seeing
what
I'm.
Seeing
that
it's
not
always
the
same
thing
and
I
I
was
wanting
to
just
give
the
board
a
update.
J
Monday
will
be
the
first
meeting
of
the
Northeast
Florida
stem
hub
board,
which
I've
been
invited
to
sit
on
with
some
Northeast
Florida
superintendents
and
the
chairman
of
the
State
Board
of
Education,
and
we're
going
to
look
at
infusing,
more
stem,
which
is
science,
technology,
engineering,
math
and
medical
at
stem
squared.
So
they
have
two
M's
on
the
end
of
it
there,
but
we'll
be
getting
into
that.
Seeing
where
that
takes
us
further
in
our
stem
activities.
J
Last
Friday,
the
Department
of
Education,
released
some
of
our
florida
state
assessment
scores,
so
we're
we're
cautiously
optimistic.
The
rest
of
the
story
is
in
September
the
governor
and
the
Commissioner
are
going
to
decide
if
that
was
even
a
valid
test,
but
from
initial
results.
Our
third
grade
writing
scores
were
out
of
the
park.
Mr.
J
Kornegay
I
think
briefed
you
last
month
that
our
we
had
the
lowest
amount
ever
in
Clay
County
of
students
needing
to
take
remedial
reading
summer
reading
camps
over
the
summer
out
of
third
graders
based
on
our
portfolio
examination
and
our
Saten
examination,
where
the
exam
they
actually
took.
First
was
the
Florida
State
assessment
and
I
think
we
got
those
results
well.
Last
Friday
right
after
school
got
out
so
well,
not
quite
in
time
enough
to
do
us
a
whole
lot
of
good,
but
there
were
only
six
counties
with
fewer
kids
in
that
lowest
quintile.
J
So
you've
heard
me
talk
many
times
about
the
importance
of
getting
students
reading
on
grade
level
by
the
end
of
third
grade
those
first
couple
years
in
primary
we're
trying
to
get
them
to
read
after
that
they're
reading,
to
learn
everything
else.
They
need
to
learn
among
children
that
are
behind
grade
level.
J
Reading
at
the
end
of
grade
three
everything
we
don't
want
to
happen
for
a
student
happens
at
a
greater
rate:
juvenile
crime,
teen
pregnancy,
drug
usage,
high
school
dropouts,
all
those
things,
it's
just
very
hard
to
recover
a
kid,
not
impossible,
but
very
difficult,
so
I'm
very
proud
of
the
work
we've
done
in
our
elementary
schools.
We've
done
some
very
dynamic,
very
intentional
instructional
strategies
with
those
primary
kids,
we've
adopted
new
reading
and
writing
curriculums.
J
We
have
executed
a
lot
of
professional
learning
communities,
we've
put
together
six
model,
schools
which
some
of
you
have
toured
in
the
elementary
settings.
So
a
teacher
anywhere
in
Clay
County
can
walk
in
a
model
school
and
see
how
it's
done
with
a
coach,
and
you
know
we
can.
We
can
learn
to
be
better
at
our
craft,
all
of
us
administrators
teachers,
support
staff
and
we're
doing
that
and
kids.
J
C
C
So
basically
I
put
this
item
on
the
agenda
because,
as
you
all
know,
back
in
January,
we
hired
and
we
hired
mr.
Sykes
as
an
interim
attorney-
and
you
know
we
did
that
with
the
agreement
that
you
know
he
was
going
to
provide
for
us.
You
know
his
analysis
of
what
kind
of
would
be
a
good
model
for
us
going
forward,
and
so
I
asked
for
him
to
send
us
a
letter.
C
He
you
know
basically
explaining
what
the
different
options
were
and
what
his
opinion
was,
and
this
is
basically
what
he
shared
the
June
8th
meeting.
So
it
was
in
the
backup,
I
hope
everybody
had
a
chance
to
read
through
it,
and
I
really
just
want
to
open
the
floor
to
have
a
discussion
about
what
everybody
feels.
What
are
your
thoughts
just
for
the
purpose
of
the
public?
The
three
options
that
were
presented
was
option,
one
which
is
a
full-time
attorney.
C
The
second
option
was
a
part-time
attorney
that
would
be
paid
at
an
hourly
rate
and
then
option.
Three
is
a
part-time
attorney
that
is
paid
at
a
flat
rate.
So
basically,
what
the
hope
here
is
that
we'll
have
some
discussion
and
then
we'll
move
forward
with
one
of
those
options
so
I'll
open
it
up
for
discussion.
P
C
Believe
it's
about
$7,500
a
month,
I
actually
took
some
notes
and
I
went
through.
I
went
through
the
legal
fee
analysis
that
Miss
legato
put
together.
For
us,
it
was
a
very
lengthy
because
it
had
a
lot
of
information
that
was
requested
by
miscarriages,
and
she
had
put
a
summary
together
of
it
and
I
guess
just
my
takeaway
is
that
even
with
a
full-time
attorney,
we
still
end
up
having
to
use
outside
counsel
for
various
things.
Okay,
yes,
a
full-time
attorney,
you
know
we
get.
C
You
know:
I
see
a
real
significant
savings
with
a
part-time
attorney
at
a
flat
rate
which
comes
out
to
be
about.
I,
would
say
ninety
ka
here
and
you're.
Still
on
top
of
that,
you
would
still
have
to
pay
the
outside
counsel.
You
still
have
to
pay.
You
know
for,
like
the
workers,
comp
and
labor
laws
and
stuff
like
that,
so
I
think
the
savings
comes
in
the
actual
attorney
that
were
paying
to
represent
the
board
or
represent
the
district.
C
C
I
think
that
you
know
I've
heard
comments
that
there
really
isn't
enough
work
to
keep
a
full-time
attorney
busy
all
the
time
if
they're
efficient,
a
part-time,
a
turn
who's
very
efficient
can
accomplish
all
of
the
things
that
we
need
them
to
accomplish,
and
so
I
think
with
that,
that's
where
the
savings
comes
in,
so
that's
really
where
I
stand.
That
would
be
my
that
would
be
my
recommendation
and
so
that
that's
the
model
that
I
I
tend
to
lean
toward.
F
I
will
I'm
glad
you
reference
the
documentation
that
I
requested
and
I
requested
it
for
a
reason
and
I
think
I
copied
everybody
on
it.
So
you're
all
aware
of
what
I
actually
asked
for
and
you're
all
aware
that
we
didn't
receive
everything.
I
asked
for
and
I
asked
for
a
year's
worth
of
detailed
billing,
because
I
wanted
to
see
the
difference
between
a
full-time
attorney
and
the
part-time
attorney.
How
many
phone
calls
were
made,
how
many
emails
were
made
that
had
to
be
responded
to
to
outside
counsel
and
I?
F
Don't
feel
that
we
have
the
correct
information
to
move
forward
to
really
make
it
an
accurate
decision
based
on
full-time
and
part-time.
So
that's
my
first
issue.
I
put
it
in
writing.
It's
a
public
records
request.
I
asked
for
it
back
in
February
again
in
March
finally
got
a
response
after
this
was
sent.
I
sent
another
email
stating
this
was
not
everything
which
I
copied
all
of
you
on
so
you're.
All
aware
of
what
I
actually
asked
for
I
didn't
ask
for
it
to
be
difficult
and
to
create
more
work.
F
I
asked
for
it
so
that
we
would
have
this
information
so
sitting
here.
We
would
know
okay,
our
full-time
attorney
handled
all
the
ESD
calls
he
handled
all
of
the
cases
when
a
there's
a
divorce
situation
going
on
at
the
school
they
get.
These
phone
calls
daily.
You
know
how
many
times
did
somebody
have
to
reach
out
to
a
third
party
to
get
this
done
where
we're
paying
every
15
minutes.
F
You
know
we're
paying
in
increments,
so
before
I
move
forward
with
that,
I
would
like
the
rest
of
that
information
and
I
personally
feel
with
the
list
of
duties
that
a
full-time
attorney
does
I
would
rather
have
a
full-time
attorney
here
than
a
part-time
I
realized
that
mr.
Sykes
said
the
last
time
he
is
on
call,
and
he
has
taken
phone
calls
in
some
weeks.
F
It's
ten
hours
in
other
weeks,
it
might
be
30
hours,
I,
understand
that
and
that's
the
beauty
of
the
salary,
as
opposed
to
an
hourly
and
I,
do
realize
that,
regardless
of
which
we
have,
we
still
have
to
have
the
labor
lawyer
and
we
still
have
to
have
the
workers
comp.
So
that's
there
either
way,
so
we
really
can
just
kind
of
take
that
off
the
table
because
either
way
we
have
to
pay
that
those
are
two
separate
entities
that
are
specialists
in
those
areas
that
we
have
to
have.
F
So
it's
really
the
daily
duties
of
a
full-time
attorney
and
then
the
needs
of
our
teachers.
Our
principals
I'm,
looking
at
you,
know,
miss
Roth
thinking,
re,
SC,
Department
and
I
know
they
have
a
lot
to
handle.
Having
a
child
I
had
a
learning
disability,
you
know
if
there
were
questions
about
our
IEP
and
and
she
could
call
up
and
ask
these
questions
to
the
attorney
and
he
was
always
available.
F
F
You
know
getting
a
call
about
a
student,
and
you
know
how
do
you
handle
that
when
they
don't
have
a
parent
to
register
them
in
school,
because
they're
living
with
you
know
they're
immigrants
that
have
come
here
or
whatever
and
they're
living
with
other
people
and
there's
not
a
legal
guardian
with
them,
and
we
still
have
to
provide
services.
So
there's
a
lot
of
issues,
I
think
that
come
up
that
in
my
eyes
it
would
be
safer
for
the
district
to
have
a
full-time
attorney
and
again
it's
just
mr.
F
Van
Zandt
I'm,
requesting
the
rest
of
the
public
records
right.
You
look
terrible.
Do
you
feel
okay?
Well,
this
only
going
to
add
to
it
sorry,
but
please
forward
the
rest
of
the
public
records
request
to
me
with
the
detailed
billing,
the
memos
of
understanding
and
you
can
look
at
the
email
and
get
the
rest
to
me.
I
would
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
M
I
would
just
echo
some
of
what's
already
been
said
just
that
the
cost
savings
analysis
that
I
looked
at
having
a
flat
rate,
makes
more
sense,
I
think
the
model
that
we're
working
with
now
mr.
Sykes
has
been
on
call
I,
know:
I've,
never
waited
longer
than
24
hours
for
a
response
to
an
email
or
a
phone
call
that
I've
made
to
him.
M
I
have
gotten
feedback
from
district
staff,
and
they
have
been
satisfied
with
the
service
that
we've
gotten
I
understand
you
wanting
to
see
more
information
and
I'm
okay
with
waiting
until
we
have
those
numbers
to
make
a
permanent
decision,
but
we
do
need
to
figure
out
what
we're
going
to
do
in
the
meantime,
because
his
contract
is
going
to
expire.
So
I
feel,
like
that's
kind
of
the
pressing
issue.
Tonight
is
what
are
we
going
to
do
in
the
meantime?
We
don't
have
to
decide
necessarily
the
model
right
now,
but
that's
my
two
cents
I.
G
Back
what
15
years
ago,
the
sitting
School
Board,
which
included
mr.
Van
Zandt
and
myself,
determined
that
the
district
had
reached
the
size
that
a
part-time
attorney
we
had
Frank
screwby
and
he
had
a
practice
in
Orange
Park
and
he
was
the
Guru
of
Florida
school
law
in
the
state
of
Florida.
I
mean
everybody.
He
had
more.
His
head,
then
probably
is
in
this
Florida
school
all
booked.
He
knew
it.
G
G
There's
so
much
that
goes
on
in
a
school
district
that
it's
difficult
to
think
of
everything
that
is
done
on
a
day
to
day
basis.
I
know
that
these
principles
out
here
have
pick
up
the
phone
and
they'll
call
where
they've
got
a
parent
and
they're
not
sure
what
to
do.
It's
very
easy
to
pick
up
that
phone
and
call
to
make
sure
you're
doing
it
the
right
way
and
know
that
you're
getting
the
right
advice
to
protect.
You
things
happen
with
our
children,
as
mascara
cos.
G
I
think
said
this
Terry
Roth
and
all
of
the
SE
there's
numerous
things
that
go
on
and
you
have
got
to
have
someone
paying
attention
who
is
well
aware
of
the
changing
laws.
I
was
very
comfortable
in
knowing
that
with
a
full-time
attorney
that
they
were
attending
conferences
of
other
school
board
attorneys
around
the
state
of
Florida.
There's
a
good
bit
of
networking
that
goes
on.
I
can't
tell
you
the
number
of
times
that
I
would
ask
a
question
and
and
an
email
would
go
out
and
you'd
get
responses.
G
You
know
from
all
over
the
state
because
it's
it's
it's
kind
of
like
when
we
go
to
the
Florida
school
board
meetings.
You've
got
a
network
and
no
matter
whether
a
district
is
large
or
small,
there's
the
wealth
of
knowledge
gained,
because
you
can
bet
your
boots
that
if
something's
happening
here
chances
are,
it's
happened
in
several
other
counties
also,
and
it
gives
you
that
advantage.
I
have
set
through
a
multitude
of
mediations
with
the
mediator
and
an
our
former
attorney.
G
There's
some
things
like
that
that
if
you
constantly
are
having
to
farm
out
so
to
speak
or
outsource
you're
you're
paying
for
things
that
we
you
we're
not
going
to
think
of
everything
sitting
here
tonight.
I
can
assure
you
of
that,
but
I've
gone
through
and
tried
to
list
everything.
I
could
think
of
that
they
do,
whether
it
be
photography
at
a
high
school
or
a
religious,
something
or
our
surrogate
parent.
And
what
do
you?
You
know
the
poor
principal?
What
do
you
do
and
you
don't
need
to
know
that?
G
Well,
if
I
could
put
this
off
until
Thursday
or
Friday,
because
right
now,
we've
got
an
active
attorney.
Thursdays
and
Fridays
and
I
guess
in
the
summertime
I,
don't
know
if
that's
just
Thursday
I
don't
know,
but
two
days
a
week,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
I'm,
also
not
comfortable
with
having
an
attorney
who's,
not
really
versed
on
school
board
education
law.
G
C
Whatever,
if
I
could
just
add
something
so
regardless
of
what
we
do,
we
you
know,
we
would
have
to
advertise
a
position
right.
We'd
have
to
advertise
that
so
I
think
to
the
point
of
and
I
understand,
your
point
about,
you
know
there's
a
lot
to
learn
when
you
come
into
this,
but
that
would
be
said
of
anybody.
Isn't
that
correct
I
mean
I,
read
mister
Scooby's
resignation,
letter
and
at
the
time
that
mr.
Victor
was
hired.
He
didn't
know
it
either
and
again.
Mr.
C
G
Some
counties
do
have
you
know:
they'll
hire
like
an
outside
firm,
finding
good
mr.
Bronski,
when
he
sits
in
ms
McCabe's
chair
in
a
few
days
or
maybe
I.
Don't
it's
easy
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
this
company
and
talk
to
this
guy
and
every
minute
you
speak
to
him
you're
paying
for
it.
I
cannot
tell
you
the
number
of
times
and
I
bet.
Miss
McCabe
would
verify
this
that
she
could
go
from
her
desk
across
the
hall
and
ask
a
question
and
save
a
phone
call.
G
You
could
it's
it's.
Sometimes
a
savings
is
not
what
it
looks
like
from
what
I
have
experienced.
I
believe
that
by
the
time
you
pay
an
outside
attorney,
we're
already
paying
for
workers
comp.
You
know,
we've
always
done
that
our
labor
fine
right
now,
where
we,
when
we
had
a
full-time
attorney,
a
lot
when
we
would
get
a
lawsuit
against
us.
Mr.
Bittner
would
handle
it
and
it
was
things
you
know.
Someone's
fallen
and
I
went
to
a
lot
of
those
mediations.
G
Our
hearings
mediations
things
that
he
just
he
did
it
and
it
was
when
his
salary
is
easy
to
say.
Look
at
what
he
was
making,
but
we
were
getting
a
lot
of
value
for
that,
because
we
were
not
having
to
outsource
a
lot
of
the
work
that
he
was
doing
plus
what
I
liked,
as
he
was
here
every
day,
and
if
mr.
humble
sitting
back
there
in
the
back
all
of
a
sudden
had
a
problem.
G
I
know
he
can
get
a
hold
of
that
attorney
and
get
some
legal
action,
because
sometimes
things
have
to
be
done
fast.
I
want
to
know
that
we
have
someone
who
has
the
time
to
get
versed
on
education
law
and
make
it
the
priority.
As
mr.
Bittner
did.
He
had
a
lot
to
learn.
Nobody
would
know
what
mr.
screw
be
knew
I'm
telling
you,
but
it's
it's
just
like
when
you
first
get
on
the
school
board
the
first
year.
G
Maybe
you
don't
see
it
right
now,
but
it's
a
learning
experience
and
even
the
second
year
it
takes
a
while
to
kind
of
get
in
the
swing
of
things
and
see
how
things
work
and
and
the
law
I
am
deathly.
Afraid
of
us
short,
citing
our
students
and
our
employees,
saying
that
we're
going
to
save
a
few
dollars
which,
in
my
mind,
I'm
not
sure
about
it,
I'm
just
I'm,
not
convinced
that
it'll
save
in
the
long
run.
G
But
the
most
important
thing
to
me
is
to
know
that
this
school
district
is
has
the
very
best
legal
opinions
of
an
advice
that
we
can
get
and
that
if
our
attorney
says
it,
that
I
can
rely
on
it
and
know
that
it's
been
researched
and
that
it
is
the
way
it
is.
We
have
been
advised
before
on
things
and
we
followed
the
advice
and
we
have
won
in
court
over
it
because
we
had
good
legal
advice.
Don't
shortchange
our
school
district
thinking?
Well,
hey!
G
They
can
come
in
a
couple
days
a
week
and
take
care
of
everything
needs
to
be
done.
I,
don't
believe
that
but
anyway,
but
that's
how
I
feel
I
think
we
certainly
need
a
full-time
attorney
and
I
certainly
think
that
when
should
interview,
as
we
did
before
into
the
year
2000
or
2001,
whenever
it
was,
we
went
and
did
very
in-depth
interviews
and-
and
we
found
the
person
we
thought
that
would
be
a
good
fit
for
this
County.
So
that's.
C
G
G
Many
advocates
actually
came
in
because
the
thing
is
you've
got
to
understand
for
someone
to
come
in
to
be
a
full-time
school
board
attorney
like
mr.
Bittner
had
a
practice
in
Orange
Park.
He
closed
down
his
practice
to
come
to
work
for
us.
That
was
that
was
something
mr.
scrooby.
Wouldn't
he
had
his
own
practice
up
there
and
he
handled
it.
He
was
back
and
forth,
but
to
get
a
full-time
attorney,
you're
going
to
have
to
have
someone
whoo.
G
You
know
you
gonna
have
to
find
that
person
who
is
in
a
position
where
they
can
undo
whatever
they're
doing
now
and
come
in
and
be
our
school
board
attorney,
but
I
think
once
once
you
get
the
applications
and
you
get
it
down
to
the
top
four
or
five
you
know
or.
However
many
look
good.
You
know.
After
talking
to
them,
I
think
we
had
a
very
good
consensus
on
the
board.
We
knew
where
we
wanted
to
when
you
the
right
fit.
Okay,.
P
C
Me
let
me
clarify
that
so
the
way
it
the
way
that
it
comes
out
right
now
right
now
we're
paying
a
part-time
attorney
who's,
basically
handling
everything
that
we
need
handled
and
we're
paying
that
person
6k
per
month,
which
comes
out
to
72
K
per
year,
we're
paying
a
paralegal
in
addition
to
that
18
K
per
year,
which
totals
90,000
a
year.
Okay,
so
that's
for
both
the
part-time
attorney
and
that's
a
flat
rate,
and
so,
however,
we
decide,
if
that's
the
way
that
we
want
to
go.
C
However,
we
decide
you
know
now
just
keep
in
mind
that
a
part-time
hourly
attorney
would
come
out
with
a
paralegal
would
come
out
to
be
about
96
K
a
year,
okay
and
then
the
full-time
attorney.
You
know
when
you
had
the
salary
of
the
full-time
attorney
and
then
the
salary
of
that
attorneys
paralegal.
C
C
Including
benefits
and
all
that
other
stuff
correct
so
and
then,
even
even
with
the
full-time
attorney
so
you're
looking
at
230,000
as
opposed
to
90,
K
and
then
you're
still
paying
for
the
outside
counsel
and
stuff
for
those
other
various
things.
So
all
I
wanted
to
say
was
just
to
clarify.
That
was
because.
C
P
I
think
our
our
administrators
got
very
creative
when
they
combined
positions
and
eliminated
positions
to
get
efficient,
and
so
what,
if
we
got
creative
with
ours
and
said,
ninety
ninety
thousand
is
what
we
have
to
pay
and
we,
if
you
want
to
pay
a
paralegal
part
of
that
money,
that's
your
choice,
but
we
have
90
thousand
to
pay.
We
had
someone,
someone
and
I
just
really
don't
recall,
but
I
felt
like
someone
talked
spoke
to
us
at
a
meeting
in
the
past
few
months.
P
That
said,
there
are
a
lot
of
unemployed
attorneys
out
there,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
young
attorneys
graduating
from
law,
school
and
looking
for
jobs,
and
you
know.
Maybe
there
is
another
mister
bickner
from
15
years
ago,
that
wants
to
get
into
school
law
and
I.
Just
don't
know
that
we
should
limit
ourselves
to
if,
if
we
could
pay
a
part-time
attorney
at
a
flat
rate,
90
thousand
a
year,
then
or
we
could
have
a
full-time
attorney
at
90
thousand
a
year.
P
Well,
then,
the
school
district
would
be
better
served
because
those
in
the
superintendent
has
things
that
he
might
need
from
an
attorney.
The
the
staff,
as
others
have
mentioned,
I
guess
I,
just
wonder
if
we
cast
the
net
out
there
do
we
have
to
decide
tonight
or
could
we
put
out?
Is
there
a
way
to
advertise
and
ask
interested
parties?
You
come
to
us
and
you
tell
us
this
is
what
we
have
to
pay.
You
tell
us
what
we
can
get
for
that
and
then
we
choose
the
best
solution.
P
I
guess:
I,
don't
know
that
we
don't
to
mrs.
Karis
point.
We
don't
know
enough
to
know
and
I
think,
because
I
think
that
both
sides
are
valid.
You
know,
I,
think
that
and
I'll
tell
you
one
reason
that
the
part-time
paid
in
an
hourly
rate
appeals
to
me
is
because
I
think
it's
important
that
wherever
we
go
with
an
attorney
and
mr.
sikes
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
done
for
us.
So
please
don't
take
this.
Personally.
P
P
Certainly,
I
am
NOT,
saying
that
in
our
past
attorneys
or
in
our
current
attorney
that
anyone
has
not
acted
professionally
I'm,
just
saying
that
I
really
I
really
desire
that
we
have
that
moving
forward
and
again
you
know
that
it's
kind
of
attractive
to
think
about
a
young
attorney,
learning
school
law
and
and
I
understand.
There's
some
risks
to
that
as
well,
that
they
may
not
know.
But
you
know
if
you,
if
you
to
mrs.
P
Stoddard's
point,
if
you
have
some
time
to
learn
school
law
and
so
much
of
their
the
letters
and
things
that
she
was
talking
about,
are
available
on
the
internet.
You
know,
and
we
certainly
have
some
great
administrative
help
within
the
district.
Is
a
paralegal
really
necessary
to
pay
and
if
we
just
can't
afford
it,
we
can't
afford
it,
but
yeah.
C
I
won't
answer
to
the
paralegal
question,
because
that
is
really
something
that
I
think
that
the
attorney
has
to
have
to
decide.
Okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
choose
an
option:
option
one
option
two
option:
three
now
I
just
want
to
say
that
there
are
two
other
items
after
this,
depending
on
what
option
that
we
choose
or
what
we
vote
on
or
if
we
decide.
You
know
that
we
want
to
do
something
different.
You
know,
but
there
are
two
other
items
right
behind
this
one.
C
The
second
one
would
be
depending
on
what
ever
comes
out
of
this
motion.
The
second
one
would
be
to
authorize
advertisement
of
such
legal
services,
whatever
option
we
decided
and
then
the
last
one
would
be
authorization
to
continue
the
current
legal
services
until
the
board
takes
further
action.
So,
depending
on
what
we
want
to
do
here,
there
are
still
look.
We
still,
we
have
some
options,
I
think
on
the
table.
So
what
I've
heard
is
I've
heard
everybody's
opinion.
C
We've
got
a
couple
folks
that,
like
the
part-time
attorney
paid
at
a
flat
rate,
this
Condon
likes
the
part-time
attorney
paid
at
an
hourly
rate.
We
got
a
couple
folks
that
are
obviously
for
a
full-time
attorney
and
then
I've
heard
comments
that
we
still
don't
think
we
have
all
the
information
that
we
need.
So
what
we
could
do
and
I
don't
know
if
this
would
require
an
amendment
to
the
motion.
C
But
what
we
could
do
is
we
could
either
table
this
item
and
call
for
a
workshop
where
we
can
get
more
detailed
information
and
we
can
have
more
time,
you
know
or
whatever,
to
really
look
into
it
and
really
decide,
and
then
with
that
you
know.
Obviously,
if
we
decided
to
do
that,
then
we
would
have
to
really
act
upon
the
next
item,
which
would
be
to
authorize
the
continuation
of
the
current
legal
services
until
we
do
that.
So
there's
a
couple
things.
You
know
that
we
can
do
so.
M
C
M
J
The
only
way
we've
done
attorney
services
is
just
on
a
straight-up
contract,
there's
not
on
our
existing
administrative,
any
of
their
salary
schedule,
a
salary
schedule
for
an
attorney.
If
you
decided
you
wanted
a
full-time
attorney,
you
could
say
we're
going
to
pay
a
full
time.
A
director,
salary
assistant,
superintendent,
salary.
You
could
do
something
like
that
and
offer
it
as
a
job,
basically
out
of
position
to
the
team
so
to
speak.
Madam.
D
J
You
saying
you
would
like
to
put
a
figure
say:
$90,000
for
the
sake
of
argument
and
say
somebody's
willing
to
bid
on
that
job
and
say
I'm
going
to
do
everything
it
takes
to
provide
all
the
legal
services
you
want
for
that
flat
rate
as
a
full-time
or
part-time
or
whatever
it
takes.
Is
that
is
that
what
you're
saying
I'm
just
trying
to
help
you
all
get
to
some
point
where
somebody
can
make
a
motion
because
you've
you've
moved
the
item,
but
you
really
didn't
move
a
particular.
J
At
some
point,
somebody
could
move
one
of
the
three
items
in
particular,
or
they
can
amend
that
motion
say
hey
for
90
thousand
or
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
You
got
to
do
all
this
stuff.
You've
been
on
the
contract
and
it's
just
like
any
other
contract.
We
tell
somebody
you
got
to
build
this.
Fifty
thousand
square
foot
building
and
you
know
we're
going
to
do.
Design
did
and
you're
going
to
bid
on
the
job.
They're
gonna
build
it
for
this
much
and
that's
it.
J
So
you
could
make
some
kind
of
motion
if
you
didn't
like
any
of
these
three
options,
and
you
wanted
to
act
tonight,
I'm
not
suggesting
you
should
or
you
shouldn't,
you
could
say,
for
X
amount
of
dollars,
draft
up
the
advertisement
of
the
services
required,
and
somebody
can
bid
on
that
job
for
six
months
for
a
year,
whatever
y'all
want
to
do.
I
would
suggest
at
least
a
year
I.
J
Don't
think
it
would
be
attractive
if
it
was
real,
short-term
kind
of
thing
and
the
only
other
thing
I
would
just
I've
heard
numbers
talked
about
a
lot
tonight
and
I've
heard
ESD
mentioned
a
few
times,
I
hate
to
put
her
on
the
spot,
but
miss
Roth.
Is
he
or
she?
If
you
wanted
her
to
address
the
ESD
services
now
versus
in
years
past
and
getting
kind
of
input
from
her
and
mr.
legato
has
this
all
these
dollar
figures
broken
down?
Okay,.
G
G
M
Q
R
You
just
for
clarity.
I've
worked
with
both
mr.
Bergner
and
mr.
Sykes.
I
will
say
that
mr.
Sykes
has
made
himself
available
to
me
in
my
department.
He
has
attended
IEP
meetings
at
my
request.
He
reviews
the
many
contracts.
I
know
you
see
them
all
across
your
desk,
so
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
them
that
we
require
an
ESA
in
student
services.
He
has
responded
to
emails
and
phone
calls
and
from
me
to
him
in
a
very
timely
manner.
R
We've
worked
very
hard
in
Clay
County
to
avoid
court
cases
for
students
with
disabilities,
so
this
is
an
area
in
which
we
haven't
delved
into,
but
his
he's
been
very
responsive
and
his
paralegal
has
also
been
responsive
to
me
when
we've
had
to
touch
base
with
his
office.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
questions,
but
we
certainly
have
I
don't
feel
like
we
have
had
a
big
gap
in
services
that,
when
I've
needed
supports,
he's,
certainly
been
available
and
has
been
helpful.
R
F
You
I
find
that
so
hard
to
believe.
Not
that
I,
don't
believe
you,
but
I
would
think
all
the
many
things
that
arise
that
come
up,
that
you
would
have
many
instances
where
you
have
to
call
down
and
say
we
need
answers
right
now
and
if
a
part-time
attorney
is
not
in
you
know
only
two
days
a
week,
you
know.
Are
you
having
to
wait
for
a
response?
I
find.
R
That
my
responses
to
almost
anybody
are
within
24
hours
and
mr.
Sykes
office
has
been,
has
not
been
any
different.
We
did
have
a
situation
where
I
had
to
know
something
right
then,
and
we
called
his
office
in
his
physical
location
and
spoke
with
his
paralegal,
and
we
got
an
answer
right
away,
so
not
not
from
the
paralegal
but
from
mr.
Sykes.
So
we
we
do
have
some
time
sensitive
issues.
R
Most
of
the
things
that
we
deal
with,
we
do
have
a
little
bit
of
a
window,
sometimes
that
we
do
have
to
have
things
right
away
and
he's
allowed
me
to
cyberstalk
him
or
text
him.
You
know
I'm
being
figured
to
have
not
literal
when
I
said,
lest
you
misunderstand,
but
we
have
had
good
good
supports
for
mr.
Sykes.
Okay.
J
Let
me
go
ahead
and
address
that
the
the
last
email
where
you
requested
legal,
whatever
detailed
billing
mr.
Sykes,
responded
to
you
and
I
don't
have
a
better
response
than
the
one
he
gave
you
if
you'd
like
to
sit
down
and
discuss,
so
we
can
certainly
do
it.
I,
don't
think
this
is
the
forum,
the
the
information
that
we
gave.
You
in
the
rest
of
the
board
took
miss
legato
about
an
entire
week
to
comb
through
and
grab.
It's
not
a
slow
excuse
me,
it's
not
a
quick
little
bit
of
pickup.
J
F
J
F
D
The
question
is
my
billing
records
I,
don't
bill
I,
do
a
monthly
bill
to
Nance
receipt
and
it's
a
flat
rate
bill.
So
I
do
not
keep
a
record
of
day-to-day.
Nor
is
a
record
day-to-day
required
at
the
phone
calls
and
conversations
that
I
have
throughout
the
day.
It's
not
required
and
I
don't
keep
those
records
and
I
doubt
prier
counsel
kept
those
records.
It's
not
something
and
everybody
that
I
know
that
that
works
on
a
flat
rate
or
in
a
full
time
rate
as
governmental,
attorneys.
I,
don't
know
anybody
that
keeps
those
day-to-day
records.
D
It's
so
far
as
the
issue
regarding
say
mr.
Schrader,
who
does
the
insurance
defense
and
the
labor
law
attorneys
and
their
phone
calls
and
their
detailed
billing.
Such
detailed
billing
would
entail
the
release
of
attorney-client
privileged
communication
and,
as
I
outlined
in
the
email
to
the
board.
If
you
want
that
kind
of
detailed
billing
from
an
hourly
basis
from
that
lawyer,
that
is
a
matter
that
is
covered
by
attorney-client
privilege
communication.
Mr.
D
Van
Zandt
can't
disclose
that
I
can't
disclose
that
mislead
gutka
can't
disclose
that
the
only
person
or
entity
that
can
vote
to
release
that
kind
of
detailed
record
because
it's
not
covered
by
chapter
119.
The
only
entity
that
can
authorize
the
release
of
such
detailed
billing
records
would
be
the
board
the
five
of
you
and
you
would
have
to
hold
a
vote
to
release
those
detailed
records
and
once
you
release
those
detailed
records,
then
you've
given
up
attorney-client,
privilege
communication
and
then
what
happens.
D
The
opposing
counsel
can
all
in
all
those
cases,
has
the
opportunity,
under
the
sunshine
law,
to
take
a
look
at
the
billing
records
and
know
exactly
what
your
attorney
is
doing
to
defend
the
case.
And
then
you
expose
yourself
to
liability.
So
if
the
board
wants
to
vote
to
release
those
attorney-client
privilege
communications,
that
that
gives
away
your
lawyers
thought
process
that
is
well
within
your
ability
to
do
that.
I
can't
release
those
records.
Mr.
Van
Zandt
can't
release
those
records
mislead
gut
cocaine,
but
the
fiber
you
can.
If
you
choose
to
let.
C
D
Their
public
record,
but
if
what
you
want
to
do
is
let's
say
you
want
to
go
in
and
you
want
to
make
an
appointment
and
take
a
look
at
the
I.
Don't
know
exactly
what
billing
records
miss
legato
has
but
I
mean,
depending
on
how
deep
you
want
to
get
into
the
weeds,
you
can
go
and
go
out
to
Boyd
generate
or
whoever
our
labor
law
attorney
and
look
at
their
detailed
billing
records.
Each
member.
The
board
would
have
the
ability
to
go.
D
Q
F
I
was
not
asking
about
mr.
sikes
daily
schedule.
I
was
not
asking
for
a
detailed
billing
on
anything
to
do
it.
Mr.
Sykes
I
realized
that
he's
on
salary
and
that
I
was
not
asking
for
him
to
account
for
his
time,
so
he
must
have
misread
the
email.
What
I
asked
for
was
the
detailed
billing
which,
if
Boyden
generate,
sends
a
bill
to
Clay
County
school
system.
It's
not
going
to
have
any
client
attorney
privileged
information
in
there.
It's
going
to
have
down
an
example,
August
1st
2014
phone
call,
whoever
15
minutes
return.
F
Billing
that
I
asked
for
which
is
not
attorney-client
work
privilege
our
client
prior
attorney
product.
It
is
not
that
is
what
I
want
to
see.
I
want
to
see
when
we
had
a
full-time
attorney.
How
many
times
did
he
have
to
use
the
outside
third
party
for
whatever,
and
it's
not
going
to
have
any
detailed
information
about
the
work
product?
If.
D
F
D
An
attorney
is
talking
to
interviewing
the
witnesses
they're
talking
to
those
all
give
up.
Those
are
all
part
of
the
attorney-client
privilege
communication.
If
I
call
up
certain
persons
that
are
potentially
witnesses,
there
are
witnesses
that
I
that
I
have
to
disclose.
There
are
witnesses
that
don't
have
to
disclose
if
I
give
up
in
a
phone
call
that
I'm
calling
up
somebody
consulting
them
on
a
case
and
I
have
that
name
that
person,
and
that
is
an
only
consulting
expert,
not
a
testifying
expert.
D
C
M
Sit
and
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong
here,
but
I
think
that
may
be
a
good
middle
ground
would
be
that
we
send
out
an
RFP
for
a
full-time
attorney
at
the
$90,000
or
$100,000.
If
we
want
to
go
with
an
administrative
salary
schedule
that
way
we're
getting
the
full
time
services
that
you
all
are
nervous
about
giving
up,
and
we
still
stick
to
what
has
worked
in
our
budget
thus
far.
Well,.
F
P
P
If
someone
might
be
out
there,
we
don't
know,
and
someone
might
come
back
to
us
and
say
look
I
can't
give
you
full
time,
but
I
have
X
years
in
school
board,
law
and
I'm
moving
here
from
wherever,
and
so
maybe
someone
new
has
come
in
and
and
they
have
some
experience,
and
so
it
just
seems
to
me.
Why
would
we
cut
ourselves
short
if
we
would,
if
we
would
be
willing
to
do
part-time
attorney
at
a
flat
rate
or
full-time
attorney?
P
C
C
Could
be
based
on
experience,
that's
correct,
so
we
could
interview
some
people
and
then
we
could,
you
know,
make
them
an
offer.
I
guess
or
you
know
we
can,
we
can
well.
We
can
decide
how
that
process
is
going
to
go
so,
okay,
here's
how
I'm
going
to
do
this.
We
have
three
options.
What
I'll
do
is
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second?
P
So
we
could
discuss
it
right,
really
and
I
got
to
tell
you
I
I
can't
vote
because
it
matters.
So
if
we,
what
do
you
kind
of
have
because
the
two
of
you
are
telling
me
that
you're?
But
the
two
of
you
are
saying
that
what
that
I'm
completely
unreasonable
with
saying
that
an
attorney
asking
for
an
attorney
at
ninety
thousand
dollars
a
year?
P
None
of
us
have
come
back
and
said
this
is
the
salary
ranges
that
attorneys
jobs,
school
attorney
jobs
across
the
state
or
advertised
at
we
don't
know
that
yeah
I,
don't
know
I
just
feel
I
feel
very
uncomfortable
because,
again
for
the
third
or
fourth
time,
we've
asked
our
district
to
tighten
our
belts
and
I
feel
like
we
need
to
and
I
know.
No
one
else
is
saying
that
we
shouldn't
but
I
just
I.
Don't
know
that
I
can
say
pick
one
tonight
well.
F
K
G
D
H
P
C
A
second
is
there
any
further
discussion?
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
to
table
this
item
say
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no
motion
carries
5-0,
okay,
so
I'm
going
to
make
a
recommendation,
then,
at
a
consensus
of
the
board
that
we
schedule
a
workshop
meeting
for
I
would
say
next
month
in
July.
We
need
to.
We
need
to
act
pretty
quickly.
Okay,
so
with
that,
since.
P
M
C
We
can
probably
look
at
adding
it
to
one
of
those.
Would
that
be
fair?
Okay,
all
right.
So
with
that
so
item
two
has
been
tabled.
We
don't
need
to
take
up
item
three.
So
do
we
just
strike
it?
Okay,
so
item
d3
will
be
stricken
and
then
we
do
need
to
act
on
item
a
d4
which
is
authorized
to
continue
current
legal
services
until
the
board
takes
further
action,
so
I'll
entertain
a
motion
on
that.
I
have
a
motion
for
approval
by
miss
Condon.
A
second.
M
G
Just
want
to
to
say
this
I
am
we're
kind
of
in
an
awkward
position,
because
this
contract
ends
the
end
of
this
month.
I
am
very
nervous
about
our
legal
situation
right
now.
I
don't
want
to
have
the
district
not
have
some
sort
of
legal
counsel,
but
I
am
not
happy
at
all,
and
I
will
be
right
upfront
about
it.
It's
nothing
personal
we're
about
fourth
or
fifth
cousins.
We're
not
kissing
cousins,
though
that's
for
sure,
but.
G
H
C
C
G
Now
let
me
say
this
before
you
vote,
madam
chairman:
I
do
have
a
right
to
speak
as
a
an
elected
official
and
a
board
member
and
to
tell
me
that
I
have
no
verification.
You
can
turn
on
the
BCC
meetings.
You
can
turn
on
the
Clay
County
School
Board
meetings.
It
is
on
video.
So
if
you
would
like
to
know
what
has
been
told
to
us
wrong
number
one,
the
attorney-client
session
that
we
were
called
into
is
absolutely
illegal
to
have
staff
members
sitting
in
the
client
session
and
then
the
meeting
wasn't
even
advertised.
C
Don't
want
me
to
I
am
NOT
going
to
have
that
discussion
here
we
are,
we
are
on.
We
are
on
a
motion.
Ok,
so
without
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
of
item
D
for
authorization
to
continue
the
current
legal
services
until
the
board
takes
further
action,
say
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say.
No
no
motion
carries
3-2
with
mrs.
Cara
kiss
and
mr.
dissenting.
C
Let's
go
ahead
and
get
your
calendar,
you
know
what
let's
do
that
at
when
we
get
to
the
board
school
board
request
we'll
do
that
at
the
end?
Okay,
don't
let
me
forget
okay,
I
want
to
move
on.
The
next
item
is
item
c4,
which
is
human
resources,
personnel
consent
agenda.
This
item
was
pulled
by
miss
Cara.
Kiss
I.
Do
not
have
any
cards
on
this,
so
I
will
entertain
a
motion.
C
M
F
Pulled
this
I
don't
agree
with
the
four
new
positions
that
have
been
created
that
we
had
a
workshop
on.
I,
don't
agree
with
the
allocation
for
the
district
staff
coming
to
a
special
meeting
last
week
or
two
weeks
ago.
I
pulled
it
for
that
reason,
because
I'm
I
think
it's
great
that
we're
trying
to
conserve
everywhere.
We
can,
but
then
we
turn
around
and
we've
inflated
several
positions
director
to
assistant
superintendent
and
several
others
and
I.
Don't
agree
with
any
of
that
and
I
think.
F
If
we're
going
to
save
money,
let's
save
all
of
it
and
the
one
thing
I
do
agree
with
spending
and
on
is
the
legal
services,
because
that
to
me
is
crucial.
So
I
pulled
this
just
because
I
want
to
avoid
waste.
My
opinion
on
on
how
opposed
to
it,
I
am
and
I
don't
think
this
should
have
been
brought
to
a
special
meeting
at
all.
The
district
allocations
should
have
come
to
a
general
meeting
and
I
think
you
all
know
I
feel
that
way
about
it.
I've
certainly
been
vocal
about
that.
Q
C
G
I
Bailey
pull
this
so
that
it
would
give
the
opportunity
to
have
some
discussion
on
the
board.
I
was
looking
at
at
this
salary
schedule
and
I
realized
that
you
know.
Many
of
the
positions
on
here
are
not
positions
that
there
would
be
some
that
there's
not
even
allocations
for
a
bit
there,
it's
kind
of
holding
a
spot.
Should
we
decide
to
do
an
allocation
for
that
position,
but
in
thinking
about
it,
our
I
remembered
back,
probably
I,
think
mr.
Cade,
when
we
talked
today
it
was
around
the
early
night
early
90s.
G
There
was
a
study
done,
and
you
said
it
was
primarily
for
support
employees,
they're,
artists,
artists
and
young
study,
but
I
guess
what
made
me
want
to
see
how
y'all
felt
about
it
is
at
one
of
the
meetings
that
we
had
I
think
mr.
Kornegay
and
mr.
van
zan
and
some
of
the
other
staff
was
there
and
we
were
just
talking
about
the
two
different
positions
you
know
in
my
in
my
mind,
we
go
director
supervisor
coordinator
and
then
some
of
them
have
ones
twos
and
threes
in
there
and
that's
kind
of
in
your
mind.
G
G
You
know
our
teachers
are
paid
in
the
lower,
but
apart
the
school
administrators
were
kind
of
in
the
middle,
with
the
state
and
I.
Think
you
said
was
that
the
district
administrators
were
way
up
high
and
that
plus,
what
miss
Kornegay
said,
plus
no
end
that
in
my
twenty
two
and
a
half
years,
we've
never
really
looked
at
it.
I
thought
you
know
if
y'all
are
interested.
I
would
like
to
have
over
the
next
few
months,
have
a
chance
to
look
at
this.
One
thing
I
forgot
to
ask
miss
McCabe
through
the
chair
all
right.
B
At
the
table
that
you're
mentioning
that
talks
about
the
pay
grade
and
the
salary
schedule,
titles
and
so
forth,
that's
all
set
in
stone.
What
you're
voting
on
ten
Knight
is
really
the
work
that
you
did
at
the
Job
Description
review
as
well.
As
you
know,
your
allocation
work
and,
as
you
mentioned,
everything
listed,
there
is
not
necessarily
allocated
if
the
board
wanted
to
do
a
salary
study
again,
that's
something
that
we
just
haven't
done
administratively
in
a
long
time.
We
could.
We
could
look
to
do
that,
but.
B
B
K
B
G
First
year,
I
saw
the
blood
draining
out
of
your
face.
Mr.
frost
key,
but
you
know
I
was
just
thinking
about
it
and
I
didn't
know
if
anybody
was
interested,
but
we've
never
done
it
and
I
thought
it's
probably
long
overdue.
If
David
Owens
said
it
back
when
he
was
superintendent
and
it
still
hadn't
been
done,
and
here
we
are
at
2015
there
and
it's
probably
time,
but
it's
at
a
you
know.
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
y'all
would
agree
to
it.
C
B
C
G
And
there
was
one
other
part
to
this:
that
I
had
a
question
about,
and
I
still
don't
have
a
good
answer,
because
nobody
really
seems
to
have
an
answer
for
this.
Is
it
just
in
all
the
years
I've
never
noticed
it
before,
but
on
the
page,
where
it
talks
about
supplements,
we
find
it
real
quick.
It
says
that
it's
talking
about
the
supplements
to
the
base
salary
for
school
administrators
they're,
all
going
to
kill
me
for
saying
this,
but
it
says
so
are
stated
in
terms
of
the
base
of
30,
$8,500
and
I
thought.
G
B
G
B
I
B
Trying
to
figure
out
the
total
cost
I
think
it
is
relatively
arbitrary
in
terms
of
the
formula
as
far
as
when
you
place
them,
one
on
the
teacher
salary
schedule.
Let's
say
a
teacher
leader
becomes,
you
know,
an
assistant
principal
then
I
think
years
ago,
when
they
set
the
structure
they
needed
a
formula
and
38
5
just
became
the
was
the
new.
B
G
C
That
I
think
that's
something
that
you
know
if
we
go
out
and
do
a
study
I
think
that
that's
that's
probably
something
that
would
be
looked
at
as
well.
So,
ok,
so
I
guess
some.
We
would
go
ahead
and
ask
the
HR
team
to
maybe
look
at
what
that
cost
would
be
and
then
maybe
bring
us
something
back
via
a
recommendation
or
something
through
the
superintendent.
J
J
You're
gonna
find
out
that
our
district
office
staff
is
quite
a
bit
smaller
than
it
used
to
be
you're
gonna
find
out
that
there's
so
many
more
that
we
asked
our
school-based
administrators
to
do
than
their
job
descriptions
Intel
and
what
the
legislature
has
put
on
the
backs
of
the
district
and
what
your
Union
tells
you
well
support
people.
Teachers
aren't
going
to
do
those
things.
J
It's
got
to
be
somebody
else,
we'll
go
through
this
process,
we'll
pay
whatever
the
fee
is,
if
you
guys
direct
me
to
spend
10
or
20
grand
whatever
ernst
and
young,
and
I
have
no
idea
what
it
might
cost
and
then
you're
gonna
find
out
that
the
job
descriptions
and
the
duty
descriptions
for
all
our
administrators
far
exceed
the
amount
that
we're
compensating
them
and
then
you're
going
to
come
back
and
look
at
me
and
you're
gonna
say
well.
We
need
to
pay
him
more
and
where's
our
fund
balance.
J
P
I
think
in
that
same
light,
I
think
in
that
same
light
as
to
would
be
to
to
see
are
they
being
paid
more
because
they've
they're
the
ones
no
offense
intended,
but
have
spent
so
much
time
in
the
district
that
they,
you
know
that
they,
if
you've
been
here,
mrs.
Adams,
used
to
say
that
she,
you
know
she'd
been
here.
So
that's
why
her
salary
was
higher
versus
less
time.
So
I
don't
know.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
interesting
to
know
in
the
same
study.
Okay,.
K
C
G
C
O
C
D
C
C
A
C
Didn't
get
anything
on
the
screen,
I'm
sure
she's
captured
it.
Okay,
all
right.
The
next
item
up
is
d6.
Is
a
public
hearing
to
approve,
as
advertised
school
board
policy
5.0
to
G
business
affairs,
electronic
funds
transfer
policy
at
this
time,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
for
public
comment.
Is
there
anybody
that
would
like
to
speak
to
this
item.
C
C
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no
motion
carries
5-0
yay.
Okay.
The
next
item
is
item
C
35.
This
was
pulled
from
the
consent
agenda
and
before
we
take
this
up,
we
have
a
number
of
yellow
cards,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
it
in
the
right
order.
All
right.
The
first
person
that
would
like
to
speak
is
mr.
Keith
Nichols.
Mr.
Nichols.
S
Ma'am,
my
name
is
Keith
Nichols
and
my
address
is
on
the
card.
This
item
was
brought
to
the
board
once
before.
At
the
regular
meeting
of
September
19
2013,
it
died
without
a
vote
due
to
a
lack
of
emotion.
In
all
fairness,
miss
Graham
moved
to
approve
and
miss
McKenna
provided
a
second
then,
after
a
lengthy
discussion,
miss
McKenna
with
you
her
second
and
the
motion
died.
I
mentioned
this
because,
except
for
the
financial
fortunes
of
the
district
and
the
lease
terms
being
more
costly
today,
nothing
has
changed
on
this
proposal.
S
The
concerns
that
made
this
a
bad
deal
in
2013
making
an
equally
bad
deal
in
2015,
one
of
the
mistress
one
of
the
benefits.
Mr.
Warburg
cites
is
the
ability
for
parents
to
have
a
real-time
view
of
bus
locations.
If
you
look
at
the
lease
agreement
and
you
notice
that
the
parent
parental
portal
not
only
is
not
operational
but
not
part
of
the
lease
agreement,
another
concern
you
should
have
noticed
on
the
lease
is
that
system
maintenance
is
our
responsibility.
S
Indeed,
installation
is
100%
our
responsibility
and
our
text
will
not
even
be
receiving
training
for
installation
or
maintenance.
We
are
already
straining
our
maintenance
personnel
to
the
limit
to
hand
them
another
system
to
maintain
without
any
training
shows
a
fundamental
lack
of
understanding
on
the
part
of
the
people
pushing
this
system.
In
his
previous
presentation,
he
suggested
that
he
would
be
able
to
reduce
drivers
hours
by
an
average
of
18
hours
per
year.
So,
let's
assume
all
240
systems
are
used.
In
other
words,
let's
assume
240
drivers.
S
S
Please
keep
in
mind
what
I've
told
you
all
today
and
in
the
past
there
are
much
better
ways
to
use
this
money
in
the
past,
I've
mentioned:
stop
armed
cameras,
a
system
that
will
directly
impact
the
safety
of
our
students.
We
could
also
think
of
lifting
some
of
the
burdens
from
our
staff
that
are
currently
below
the
federal
poverty
level.
It
was
a
bad
deal
in
2013.
It's
a
bad
idea
today.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
Am
also
a
school
bus
driver,
I
work
for
the
county
and
I
am
concerned
about
the
cost
of
this
thing.
Question
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
an
answer
to
it,
but
my
understanding-
and
maybe
mr.
Weinberg
could
help
me
with
this.
I
have
been
told
that
we're
leasing
the
GPSS
but,
however,
there's
a
cost.
We
have
to
maintain
them,
plus
I
heard
that
the
Verizon
is
going
to
be
operated
by
Verizon
and
I've
heard
that
that
costs
I
haven't
seen.
Is
that
part
of
the
lease?
Oh,
it
is
okay.
E
Well,
that's
good
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
safety
way
that
it
was
described
to
me
is
that
would
help
us
out
on
our
Jeep
our
Fe
FP
reports,
where
the
kids
will
scan
their
cards.
But,
however,
we
know
that
students
today
or
ask
to
me
repeatedly:
do
you
have
a
pencil
so
it
doesn't
mean
that
they're
going
to
bring
their
student
ID
with
them
every
day.
So
then
I
was
told.
Well
they
could
key
in
the
information
or
a
student
ID,
but
then
some
of
them
can't
remember
the
right
address.
E
So
how
are
they
going
to
put
in
their
student
ID
numbers,
then
I'm
told
well.
The
administrators
at
the
school
will
come
on
and
put
that
in
put
that
in
to
the
system.
Well,
you
know,
I
think
that's
kind
of
reasonable,
because
I'm
sure
you
got
some
administrators
here
today,
we're
going
to
say:
hey
I
want
to
do
that.
So
I've
got
some
concerns
about
that.
We're
stopping
at
a
bus.
Stop
we've
got
kids
getting
on
the
bus.
We've
got
a
semi
bearing
down
on
our
rope
behind
the
bus,
and
we
wondering
well.
E
E
I
do
think
that
we
do
need
air
conditions
for
the
buses.
Even
though
I
got
an
air
conditioned
bus
thank
God
because
I
Drive
the
ESC,
but
there's
other
since
not
now.
Today
it
got
up
to
101
degrees.
That
can
you
imagine
this
aluminum
of
this
metal
box
closed
up.
You
get
on
and
you
let
the
windows
down,
but
guess
what
you
got
hot
air
blowing
in
on
you:
okay,
it
doesn't
cool
it
down
that
much
so
I
mean
I.
Just
you
just
I
think
there's
other
ways
we
could
spend
some
money.
E
Stop
armed
cameras
would
be
great.
I
cannot
begin
to
tell
you
how
many
times
stop
arms
are
being
run
on.
My
bus
and
I've
had
to
blow
the
horn
to
stop
a
student
and
giving
them
the
signal
to
stop.
Because
someone
is
not
going
to
stop
so
I
mean
I.
Think
there's
other
areas
we
can
maybe
do
for
safety
of
schools.
Our
buses
I
said.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
T
My
name
is
Kip
Stacey
and
my
address
is
on
the
card.
I'm
a
school
bus
driver.
My
concerns
are
the
GPS.
We
don't
they're
not
going
to
improve
anything,
that's
what
our
dispatches
are
for.
That's
what
our
radios
are
for.
We
have
routers
that
know
our
whereabouts.
What
our
routes
should
be,
what
a
route
shouldn't
be
or
the
GPS
is,
are
just
going
to
be
more
of
a
problem
than
they
are
going
to
help
that
money
would
be
put
to
waste
cameras
on
the
bus.
T
We
have
cameras
on
certain
buses
on
our
fleet
and
they
use
them
for
problems
that
are
occurring.
That
need
to
have
you
on
that
bus
as
a
camera.
Bus,
so
put
more
cameras
on
the
bus.
It's
not
going
to
work
either
ACS.
Now
that
might
help
they
seize
on
the
bus
at
Yolo.
I
would
invite
any
of
y'all
to
come
on
a
summer
day
in
the
p.m.
and
ride
the
school
bus
that
does
not
have
an
AC
on
it.
T
It's
hot
on
there,
the
kids
get
aggravated
even
with
the
windows
down
it's
still
hot
on
there.
If
it
goes
to
raining,
some
kids
want
the
windows
up,
some
kids,
don't
the
range
cools
them
off?
We
have
to
open
our
side,
witness
in
return.
Our
panels
are
getting
wet
from
the
rain,
which
causes
problems
with
the
bus,
so
ACS
would
be
a
big
help
and
if
you
would
take
the
time
any
other
board
take
the
time
to
come
and
ride
the
bus
on
a
p.m.
summer
day,
you
would
see
how
hot
it
gets
in
them.
T
Buses
it
break
down
on
medical
problems,
a
lot
of
problems.
We
would
have
not
happen
if
they
cease,
but
let's
talk
about
our
wages.
The
last
meeting
we
were
here
I
hope
I
can
get
all
this
in
then
I
was
out.
We
talked
about
wages,
I
heard
one.
The
ladies
say
that
the
bus
drivers
are
under
poverty
level.
It
did
seem
to
register
I
think
that
maybe
y'all
think
that
we
worked
in
40
hour
a
week.
We
do
not.
T
We
worked
35
and
a
half
hours
if
we
get
that
some
work,
six
four
or
five
hours
a
day
times
that
some
make
12
hours
summit
make
to
Lausanne.
Our
Sun
makes
little
dust
net
by
the
time
that
you
take
your
insurance,
your
taxes,
your
retirement
benefits,
and
things
like
that.
You
have
no
money
left
in
your
paycheck
at
the
end
of
that
month
for
two
pay
periods,
I
figured
it
up
to
where
I
would
be
making
probably
about
fourteen
hundred
about
fourteen
hundred
a
month,
the
poverty
after
that's
without
anything,
taken
out
of
it.
T
Okay,
once
all
the
taxes
in
your
retirement
and
your
insurance
and
stuff
are
taken
out,
I'm,
three
thousand
dollars
below
poverty
level
below
poverty
level
and
that's
the
2015
national
poverty
level
scale.
So
this
is
something
that
y'all
should
consider
when
you're
going
to
be
putting
money
into
places.
Consider
us
as
the
employees
and
the
equipment
that
we
drive
to
make
these
kids
comfortable
and
safe
as
a
safe
as
well.
Okay,.
K
Well,
my
speech
will
be
short:
I
am
a
school
bus
driver
when
you
get
on
this
bestest
they're
like
113
to
120
degrees,
they're,
very
hot
I,
believe
if
we
could
have
air-conditioned
I'm
speaking
for
the
children
and
for
all
the
bus
drivers,
we'd
have
a
lot
better
ride.
A
lot
happier
situation
for
all
of
us
and
that's
what
I
think
we
really
need
you
consider
that
in
the
future.
Thank
you
thank.
I
Cuz,
that's
why
I
do
what
I
do?
That's
I
mean
when
I
hear
those
stories
I
know
about
you
guys,
but
I
get
teary-eyed
to
think
that
this
is.
You
know
that
folks
are
working
this
hard
and
this
is
what
they
get
paid.
So
that's
why
I
do
what
I
do
I
want
to
piggyback
on
a
lot?
That's
already
been
said,
and
that
is
that
nothing's
changed
since
the
last
time
this
was
brought
up,
miss
McKinnon.
You
were
on
the
board,
then
miss
Cara,
Cassandra
stuttered.
You
were
on
the
board
at
that
time.
I
I
Oh
and
I
have
lots
of
more
talking
to
do
as
time
goes
by
dr.
cook.
Well
and
I
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
this,
but
you
got
a
pot
of
money
and
that's
where
this,
where
the
stuff
has
to
go,
you
can
put
shift
stuff
over
to
capital
outlay.
You
can
shift
things
over,
but
it's
basically
going
to
come
out
of
that
gin
fund.
So
let's
just
put
the
money
into
people's
pockets.
I'm,
always
amazed
when
they
get
up
here
and
speak
about
how
they
want
safety.
They
won't
air-conditioning
things.
I
C
G
C
Answer
that,
but
let
me
do
say
this
I
know
that
when
this
came
up
before
you
know
a
lot,
the
same
concerns
came
up
about
the
air
conditioning
and
I.
Remember
that
I
believe
I'm
correct
in
stating
that
mr.
warm
Berg,
if
you
look
at
the
the
cost
the
way
he
had
it
broken
down
on
here,
it
was
broken
down
at
3604,
thirty-six
dollars
and
four
cents
per
bus.
That
was
what
the
lease
of
the
equipment
would
cost.
He
did
a
comparative
analysis
on
what
it
would
cost
per
bus
to
put
air
conditioning.
F
S
S
I
would
appreciate
it
if
one
of
you
could
find
somebody
making
$100,000
a
year
to
incorporate
this
information
into
the
website
for
the
respective
schools,
since
that
is
where
it
probably
should
have
belong
before
somebody
making
$16,000
a
year
suggested
it
I
made
this
information
request
to
miss
Adams
who
pass
it
to
mr.
Jarrell
I'd
like
to
read
you
mr.
marrows
response
and
I
am
quoting
here,
says,
attaches
the
information
that
mr.
Nichols
requested.
It
took
two
secretaries
roughly
two
and
a
half
hours
each
to
go
through
the
records
and
compiled
the
data.
S
Additionally,
the
maintenance
workforce
has
remained
at
essentially
the
same
level
for
the
past
10
to
15
years,
so
we
have
absorbed
maintaining
and
repairing
additional
school
systems
with
no
additional
maintenance
personnel.
I
requested
this
information
simply
to
get
a
historical
perspective
on
some
data.
I
was
analyzing,
nothing
more,
but
since
mr.
Maryl
seems
to
be
inviting
my
critique,
it
would
be
a
shame
to
disappoint
him.
In
the
last
15
years
that
mr.
Morelle
mentions,
we
have
added
12
schools.
His
suggestion
is
that
we
added
these
12
schools.
S
It
did
not
increase
our
maintenance
staff
from
that
I
can
three
logical
conclusions.
First.
Is
that,
prior
to
our
mm
prior
to
2000,
our
maintenance
staff
was
seriously
over
man.
I
find
this
one
to
be
highly
unlikely,
and
so
we
now
are
either
contracting
out
a
larger
portion
of
our
facilities,
maintenance
that
was
previously
done
in-house
or
we
simply
aren't
maintaining
our
facilities
properly.
S
J
I'm
looking
here
at
dates
for
the
July
meetings,
I,
don't
know
what
might
be
coming
up
in
July
from
any
of
you
or
if
the
staff
would
have
anything
super
significant.
But
we
have
a
meeting
in
July
16th,
which
is
a
third
Thursday.
The
next
Tuesday
July
21st.
We
have
a
special
meeting.
Is
that
one
at
five
o'clock?
Mr.
Logan
code,
you
have
your
calendar
and
is
that
one
of
your
budget
workshops
hand.
D
J
C
G
F
J
F
Q
J
C
F
C
C
Different
things
so,
right
now
we
have
two
special
meetings
scheduled
one
in
July.
In
addition
to
our
regular
meeting
on
the
16th,
we
have
one
on
the
21st
and
one
on
the
28th
and
those
are
both
regarding
the
budget
so
we're
talking
about.
Where
do
we
tack
on
a
budget
workshop
and
where
do
we
tack
on
the
other
workshop
for
legal
services,
so
I
would
recommend
that
we
tack
one
on
to
the
one
and
another
one
on
to
the.
F
Q
C
Let's
just
we
can
start
the
workshop
at
5:00
and
and
then
just
go
right
into
the
I
mean
it
would
be
a
couple
hours
I
mean.
So
why
don't
we
just
plan
for
5:00,
because
that's
what
we
have
it
set
for
now
and
that's
what
I've
got
on
my
calendar?
Oh
wait!
A
minute.
I've
got
seven
o'clock
for
the
21st
and.
C
C
C
C
F
C
C
So
I'm
just
gonna:
okay,
where
were
we
superintendent
requests?
Are
we
done?
Okay,
well,
moving
on
to
the
school
board,
requests
I'll
just
go
first,
you
know,
obviously
we're
going
to
we've
already
discussed
the
workshop
for
legal
services
and
then
I
think
I
just
heard
a
request
from
a
couple
members
of
the
board
to
request
from
the
superintendent.
If
you
could
maybe
ask
mr.
Warburg
to
bring
to
us
maybe
an
analysis
or
on
what
it
would
cost
to
put
some
air
conditioning
on
some
of
our
buses
I.
C
Q
J
You
haven't
visited
the
bus
complex
at
Middleburg
ever
or
talk
to
mr.
Warburg
in
a
long
time,
I
know
that
he
emailed
all
five
of
you
some
information
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
was
trying
yesterday
to
run
y'all
down
on
the
phone
cuz.
He
he
had
no
input
back
and
we
just
wouldn't
agenda
stuff
like
this.
If
you
have
zero
interest
or
doesn't
sound
smart
at
all,
you
would
just
share
that
with
us
early
in
the
process,
we
wouldn't
waste
any
time
with
it.
So
thank
you.
Okay,.
M
To
attend
the
summer
Leadership
Conference,
with
some
of
our
district
administrators
last
week
and
all
the
principals
of
the
schools
were
there.
It
was
a
great
opportunity
to
get
to
know
some
new
folks
and
learned
a
lot
and
very
encouraged
by
the
vision
and
the
leadership
that
we
have
in
this
district.
M
C
G
About
the
only
thing
that
I
haven't
said
that
I
wanted
to
say
is
there's
a
part
of
me:
that's
that
is
sad
for
the
district
as
we're
growing
and
adding
administrators
and
bringing
people
in
I
have
to
say
it
breaks
my
heart
when
I
just
found
out
today
about
five
text,
specialists
I
think
they
call
them
over
NIT
plus
a
coordinator.
His
contracts
are
not
being
renewed
for
next
year,
and
you
know
over
the
years
one
thing
about
the
Clay
County
school
district
I
always
took
such
pride
in
is
we
were
family.
G
We
took,
we
try
to
take
care
of
our
people,
but
we're
losing
people
and
bringing
in
people
in
administrative
positions.
Eddie
I,
just
I,
don't
I
know
everybody
is
trying
to
progress
and
everything's
moving
along.
But
it's
it's
sad
that
we
are
forgetting
our
people.
We
we've
always
been
a
family,
but
hopefully
it'll
all
come
out
in
the
wash,
but
with
that
I
hope
y'all
have
a
great
summer
and
just
enjoy
yourself.
G
My
car
gage
said
a
hundred
and
one
yesterday
and
the
day
before,
I
just
cannot
even
imagine
what
it
would
be
like
and
I
hot
bus
that
would
hey.
I
went
in
Taco
Bell
today
for
lunch,
the
one
on
Blanding
and
they
said
their
air
had
been
broken
for
a
month.
I
about
died,
I
mean
it.
This
is
just
too
hot
to
live
and
without
air
conditioning
anyway.
Anyway,
y'all
have
a
good
summer.
I.
P
Way
back
in
I
believe
it
was
in
December
or
January.
We
voted
that
mascara
kiss
would
be
our
region's
represent
our
alternate
representative
on
the
legislative
committee
for
F
SBA
and
as
of
last
Thursday
she's
now
that
representative,
because
the
person
who
was
in
that
role
took
a
different
role
on
the
board
of
directors
and
so
I'm
sure
all
of
you
saw
the
email
from
F
SBA
that
they
are
looking
for
a
nominee
for
the
for
the
alternate
and
while
we
know
miss
Cara
kiss
will
serve
us
well,
we
probably
should
give
mrs.
G
C
Thank
you
for
your
years
and
years
of
service
and
I
just
have
to
say
this.
Miss
McCabe
was
the
principal
at
the
school,
where
all
three
of
my
boys,
graduated
and
so
I
just
have
fond
memories
of
back
then
and
I
know
she
was
great.
She
was
just
a
great
addition
to
our
school
district
and
I
wish
you
the
best
in
your
retirement
and
your
husband
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
your
years
of
service
and
with
that
this
meeting
is
oh,
we
got
one
more
attorney
request
almost
forgot
two.
D
A
E
D
Want
to
dress
briefly
that
that
last
meeting,
the
objections
was
made
by
mister,
that
we
were
violating
section
1
to
0.5
to
5
and
she
actually
relied
upon
the
opinion
by
Mr
Bergner.
That
said,
section
1
to
0.5
to
5
did
not
apply
when
she
said
a
meeting
August
15
2014.
She.
Furthermore,
at
that
last
meeting,
stated
that
she
was
concerned
about
violation
of
the
Sunshine
Law,
because
for
days
notice,
the
newspaper
when
she
had
that
meeting
on
August
15
2014
mr.
D
Bittner
posted
the
notice
on
the
clerk
of
the
courts
wall
48
hours
before
I
went
to
warn
you
on
one
other
thing.
If
her
prior
objection
is
correct
and
went
to,
0.5
to
5
is
correct,
then
your
special
meeting
is
that
you're
having
next
week
need
to
be
published
in
the
Florida
Ministry
of
register.
They
don't
after
you
asked
me
to
do
the
research
I
pulled
down
the
Florida
Ministry
of
register.
You
can
go
online,
look
at
it
and
I
didn't
find
any
notices
for
any
school
boards
for
special
meetings.