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From YouTube: October 2014 Regular Board Meeting
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A
A
C
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Teresa
Dixon
I'm,
the
vice
president
of
Cespedes
aport,
Professionals
Association,
and
last
month
our
president
Kelly
Griffiths,
the
president
of
Sesa,
challenged
mr.
Van
Zandt,
the
members
of
the
current
school
board,
as
well
as
miss
Condon,
miss
Gil,
Houston
and
mr.
lay
to
work
a
day
as
a
sport.
Employee
I'm
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
our
president,
who
could
who
was
out
of
town
and
couldn't
be
here,
and
the
purpose
was
to
report
to
you.
The
results
of
the
challenge.
C
First
I'd
like
to
express
why
we
felt
this
challenge
was
important
as
a
school
board.
Member
and
district
level
administrator,
you
often
make
decisions
regarding
the
employees
you
oversee
oftentimes.
The
consequence
of
these
decisions
may
produce
negative
effects
for
the
employee,
as
well
as
the
students
that
they
serve
it's
important
for
any
supervisor
to
know
the
duties
of
their
employees.
It's
also
important
to
know
the
needs
and
concerns
of
the
community,
the
needs
and
concerns
of
the
students
and
those
of
the
parents
and
the
teachers.
C
But
you
can
draw
truly
know
these
things
without
taking
the
time
to
be
actively
involved
and
engaged
without
rolling
up
your
sleeves
and
joining
in
without
sitting
down
and
not
talking.
But
listening.
You
don't
get
a
full
understanding.
Just
from
reading
a
report
or
looking
at
a
graph
now,
I
do
realize
that
some
who
are
unable
to
meet
this
challenge
have
full-time
jobs
in
other
areas,
which
certainly
prevented
them
from
being
able
to
fulfill
the
task.
C
That's
concerning
to
me
that
their
time
is
so
limited,
but
I
would
like
to
re-expand
the
invitation
and
ask
them
to
please
come
out
and
work
a
day
as
a
support
employee
to
those
of
you
that
did
complete
the
challenge.
Thank
you.
It
meant
a
great
deal
to
the
employees
to
see
that
you
care
enough
about
our
schools,
our
students
and
our
employees
to
step
out
of
your
comfort
zone
and
to
take
on
a
task
that
may
have
seemed
alien
to
you.
C
We
hope
sincerely
that
you
group
the
experience
and
that
you
gain
some
insight
that
you
did
not
previously
have
so
far.
Three
of
the
nine
employees
or
nine
people
challenge
did
fulfill
the
quest
and
I'd
like
to
present
to
them
certificates
of
appreciation
and
they
go
to
Tina
Bullock
for
serving
as
a
teacher
assistant
at
Keystone
elementary
school
Carol
stuttered
for
serving
as
a
teacher
assistant
at
Ridge,
View,
High,
School
and
Janet
Kerry
kiss
for
serving
as
a
bus
monitor
through
the
Middleburg
bus
compound.
Thank
you
and
I
have
certificates
if
I
could
present
them.
A
I
want
to
say
a
couple
things
about
that.
Last
week,
I
went
to
Ridge
View
High
School
as
an
ESC
assistant,
and
there
was
one
teacher
and
one
aide
in
the
class
and
then
at
different
times.
During
the
day,
there
was
a
length
sign-language
person
who
came
in
with
one
student
and
then
and
I
went
to
an
adaptive,
PE
class.
With
my
student,
who
was
in
a
wheelchair,
but
I
made
some
friends.
A
The
the
kids
were
wonderful.
There
were
two
assistants
in
the
class,
excuse
me
and
one
teacher,
but
it
showed
me
something
that
I
would
have
never
known,
had
I
not
been
there
and
walked
the
walk
and
seen
it
and
the
adaptive
PE
teacher
was
wonderful
and
the
aides
were
so
caring
and
the
kids
in
that
class.
There
were
several
different,
very
indifferent
as
exceptionalities,
and
you
really
got
to
see
what
the
kids
go
through
each
each
day
and
it
was
such
a
positive
thing.
A
B
Do
I
would
like
to
say
something:
I
am
I
had
the
pleasure
of
being
a
bus
monitor
yesterday
morning
and
our
bus
drivers
arrived
at
the
compound
at
5
a.m.
or
5:15
it's
very
early.
Mr.
Warburg
was
a
great
help
in
setting
me
up
with
the
team
and
honestly
they
gave
me
the
creampuff
route
I
make.
But
bus
drivers
said
if
you
really
want
to
know
what
it's
like
and
walk
a
day
in
our
shoes
ride
the
big
bus
but
I
was
on
an
e
se.
B
Bus
and
I
was
so
incredibly
impressed
with
the
care
that
our
staff
gives
to
these
children
and
the
patients
that
they
have.
It
was
remarkable
and
every
child
that
get
on
you
could
tell
they
have
a
good
relationship
with
their
driver
and
their
aid.
They
they
said
good
morning.
They
said
hello
if
they
could,
if
they
could
speak
it
and
the
the
aide
would
say
to
them.
How
is
your
weekend?
How
is
mom
would
you
do
and
you
can
see
that
they
were
engaged
in
these
children's
lives,
each
school
that
we
went
to?
B
We
did
Ridge
View
High
School.
We
transported
kids
to
Ridgeville,
Elementary
and
Lake
Asbury
jr.,
and
at
each
school
there
was
an
aide
there
to
meet
each
one
of
those
children
and
dress
them
in
a
warm
welcoming
manner
and
help
them
they're.
The
patients
that
I
saw
displayed
to
our
students
and
our
children
was
remarkable
and
I
really
have
so
much
more
respect.
B
You
know
very
quick
the
way
they
do
it,
but
the
students
never
felt
like
they
were
being
maneuvered
quickly
and
everything
went
so
smoothly,
and
the
nurse
that
accompanied
this
student
was
just
as
professional
as
could
be.
I
was
so
incredibly
impressed,
so
I
did
tell
mr.
Weinberg
I
will
come
back
and
get
the
tour
of
the
rest
of
the
the
bus
depot
and
I
am
going
to
be
brave
enough
to
ride
the
big
bus
one
day.
So,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
challenge.
D
I
got
to
go
to
Keystone
elementary
school
and
and
shadow.
A
teacher
assistant
was
a
TM
hpmh
classroom.
Miss
Cory
had
told
me
that
it
was
a
great
classroom
and
she
was
absolutely
right.
They
were
phenomenal
with
us.
Students
I
had
emailed
the
teacher
ahead
of
time
and
said,
or
actually
the
8th
and
said,
ok
what
what
do
I
need
to
do
in
preparation?
She
said:
wear
comfortable
shoes,
comfortable
clothes
and
bring
your
lunch.
We
only
get
28
minutes
so
I
think
that
was
a
little.
You
know
here.
D
Remember
we
only
get
this
amount
of
time,
but
they
were
phenomenal
with
our
students.
Again
by
the
time
every
student
arrived
on,
the
bus
I
had
a
little
synopsis
of
each
child.
This
one's
a
hugger.
This
one
does
this.
D
This
one
does
that
they
knew
those
kids
so
well,
and
not
only
did
they
had
the
duties
of
the
students,
but
they
also
had
bus
to
e
and
other
responsibilities
and
I
was
very
impressed
and
anybody
who
gets
an
opportunity
to
go
into
our
classroom
and
see
the
phenomenal
job
that
our
support
staff
does
and
also
the
teacher
that
was
in
that
classroom
needs
to
give
themself
that
opportunity.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
do
that
appreciate
it.
Mr.
B
A
E
Chair
board
members
I,
don't
have
anything
earth-shattering
for
you
tonight.
We
ended
up
our
first
nine
weeks
last
week.
Had
a
great
health
fair
here
at
Fleming,
Island
high
school
as
well
together
and
very
well
participated
in
Michigan
is
not
here
tonight,
but
her
crew,
just
as
a
phenomenal
phenomenal
job
with
that,
and
it
helps
people
catch
things
and
I'd
like
to
just
tell
you
a
little
story.
E
While
we
are
talking
about
some
things,
I
got
a
call
from
a
principal
last
night
had
a
first
grader
one
of
our
elementary
schools
on
Monday
that
was
walking
and
just
didn't,
didn't,
look
right
kind
of
carrying
her
body
a
little
bit
dragging
her
foot
now
first
grade
little
girl,
so
they
called
the
mom
transport,
the
child,
a
local
medical
facility,
and
they
think
she
bruised
her
knee
child
lays
out
of
school
Tuesday,
not
feeling
well.
Child
comes
back,
Wednesday
nurse
calls
principal
says:
I
need
to
transport
this
child
transported
the
child
Wolfson's
downtown
tonight.
E
The
child
had
had
a
stroke
a
week
or
two
ago
had
mass
on
her
brain
and
fluid
in
it.
So
our
nurse,
by
paying
very
close
attention,
not
taken
the
first
medical
synopsis
that
she
saw,
I
literally
had
saved
a
child's
life
this
week,
so
I
haven't
got
a
report
post-surgery
the
child
was
having
surgery
to
drain
that
fluid
this
afternoon.
E
E
Each
of
our
ninth
graders
entered
an
Academy
when
school
started
this
year,
learning
all
the
core
subjects,
plus
a
career
tech,
ed,
whether
it
be
an
aerospace
or
a
medical
or
a
carpentry
or
automotive,
but
they're
learning
their
core
curriculum
and
their
extracurricular
or
elective
classes
around
a
theme
based
learning
initiative,
and
that's
just
going
to
continue
to
take
our
kids
farther
down
the
road
and
and
do
what
we
need
to
do
so,
a
lot
of
great
things
going
on
nothing
specific
for
this
week.
So
that's
all
I
have
okay.
A
A
F
F
There's
been
quite
a
bit
of
conversation
it
here
in
the
boardroom
and
among
citizens
about
the
concern
of
Miss
gaston's
contract
and
how
there
really
is
no
appropriate
means
of
evaluation
and
that
a
lot
of
citizens
feel
that
this
is
really
a
non-compete
no
show
contract,
and
that
we
really
feel
that
it's
improper,
that
the
employee
is
directly
supervised
by
her
spouse,
and
we
really
would
like
the
board
to
consider
this
and
to
encourage
the
attorney
to
find
another
assistant.
Thank
you.
B
You
I
am
placed
this
on
the
agenda.
Just
for
the
more
of
a
housekeeping
reason
would
like
the
contract
to
read
to
go
through
the
end
of
the
calendar
year.
You
know
our
our
school
calendar
is
July
1
through
June
30th,
and
it
seems
odd
to
me
that
this
just
comes
up
in
November,
so
I
thought
well,
let's
go
with
the
traditional
calendar
calendar
year
and
you
know,
move
her
contract
to
the
31st
of
December.
There's
no
actual
reason
for
it
and
that's
what
I
did
so.
I
will
move
approval.
D
G
A
A
The
next
item-
d3
discussed
financial
impact
of
an
appointed
superintendent
and
approved
to
motion,
postpone
the
appointment
process
until
the
2016
general
election.
Should
the
ballot
initiative
passed
in
November,
2014
general
election,
MS,
McKennon
and
I
do
this?
Is
your
item
but
I
do
have
some
cards
on
this
okay,
first
Keith
Nichols.
H
Yes,
ma'am
I
just
wanted
to
address
this
before
I
got
started
because
I
have
an
idea
where
this
may
be
going.
It's
about
the
financial
impact
of
going
to
an
appointed
school
board
superintendent
and
the
fact
that
it
would
probably
be
a
little
more
expensive
to
have
an
appointed
board
attendant
has
compared
to
an
elected
school
board
attendant
that
has
already
been
brought
up.
We've
already
made
the
mention
of
that
and
not
I,
know
I've
said
that
up
here,
two
or
three
times
that,
yes,
the
salary
would
be
a
little
bit
more.
H
There
was
a
recent
and
I
can't
remember
exactly
where
I
saw,
but
was
from
the
Labor
Department
that
showed
where,
if
you
can
raise
the
graduation
rate
by
one
percentage
point
and
maintain
that
one
percentage
point
for
a
period
of
twenty
years
at
that
end
of
twenty
years,
you're
going
to
add
over
a
billion
dollars
of
economic
stimulus
to
your
community
and
I,
don't
know
about
you
but
I.
Think
a
billion
dollars
coming
into
our
community
and
hoping
our
tax
base
would
really
be
a
significant
advantage
to
us.
H
So
when
you
look
at
this
and
you're
looking
at
the
cost,
understand
something
your
school
district
is
they
asked
that
to
the
county?
It's
a
really
vital
asset
and
the
better
you
can
prepare
your
school
students
for
their
future.
The
better
you
can
prepare
your
County
for
the
future,
the
more
you're
going
to
have
to
be
able
to
spend
because
your
tax
base
is
going
to
improve
and
I'm
guarantee,
and
mr.
Copeland
will
probably
said
over
here
and
agree
with
me
on
that
point-
that
you
know
your
school
district.
H
E
H
H
Don't
know,
sir
you're,
the
honest
with
you
I
decided
that,
because
that
was
something
that
I
heard
on
NPR
and
it
struck
me
as
being
an
interesting
fact
and
I.
Just
you
know,
I've
seen
the
decline
and
and
as
I
said
before,
you
know,
I
never
did
say
that
the
decline
was
a
result
of
you,
I,
don't
think
it
is
I.
Think
it's
a
result
of
what's
been
going
on.
H
I
think
it's
just
a
result
of
the
fact
that
we're
now
at
35,000
students-
and
we
need
it's
nothing
against
you
I
think
we
just
need
to
have
professional
management
so
that
we
can.
You
know
we
can
tailor
it
right
now
we're
having
financial
problems.
It
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
look
for
an
appointed
superintendent
whose
background
is
bringing
in
finances
to
straightening
out
finances
and
at
the
end
of
the
four
year
period
of
time,
when
they've
got
the
financing
straighten
out
okay.
Well,
now
we
can
go
out.
H
We
could
find
a
school
board,
superintendent
who's
going
to
be
able
to
go
in
and
address
curriculum
and
to
be
able
to
Spotify
it.
Instead
of
in,
like
I,
said
nothing
personal
against
you
to
be
able
to
spot
what
our
district
actually
needs
and
tailor
the
person
to
that
need
and
address
that
need
one
at
a
time
to
get
us
back
on
track.
I
think
that's
the.
E
Strongest,
we
think
a
person
I
just
wanted
you
and
everybody
in
this
room
to
know
that,
due
to
our
fine
teachers
and
administrators
and
everybody
that
has
a
part
of
the
kids
learning
games,
that
our
graduation
rate
actually
did
rise.
Seven
percent
this
last
year
and
then
in
the
last
two
years,
we've
presented
balanced
budgets
to.
H
A
I
Elaine,
why
stocking
you
have
my
information
on
file?
Dr.
Phil
has
a
famous
one-liner.
How
is
that
working
for
you?
He
delivers
the
zinger
after
he
hears
from
folks
who
repeatedly
do
things
that
don't
work
and
in
some
cases
are
counterproductive.
We
are
having
a
dr.
Phil
moment
now
in
Clay
County,
we
have
elected
superintendent
of
schools
under
whose
management
our
school
district
has
been
downgraded
from
an
a
to
a
B
and
during
his
management,
the
relative
standing
of
her
school
districts
has
plummeted
from
about
13
to
19.
I
How
is
an
elected
superintendent
of
schools
working
for
us,
not
so
good?
The
appointment
of
the
Superintendent
of
Schools
is
not
a
radical
effort
to
disenfranchise
the
voters
of
Clay
County.
On
the
contrary,
the
appointment
elevates
the
superintendent's
office
to
a
professional
level,
with
selection
criteria
based
on
best
practices
and
citizen
input.
I
Apparently,
the
overwhelming
majority
of
Americans
have
decided
that
public
schools
systems
are
best
managed
by
professionals
rather
than
left
in
the
hands
of
those
who
win
a
popularity
contest
and
meet
those
standards
of
competence.
The
Clay
County
educational
system
needs
improvement
now
not
in
2016
and
he's
a
qualified
administrator
to
deal
with
the
worst
budget
shortfall
in
over
a
decade.
It
needs
to
develop
a
curriculum
that
keeps
pace
with
our
internationally
interconnected
societies.
I
Only
one
foreign
language
is
taught
in
Clay,
County,
high
schools
and
with
the
high-tech
environment
that
students
need
to
compete
in
the
workplace.
It
needs
teachers
trained
to
face
the
challenges
of
new
educational
programs
such
as
Common
Core.
If
I
needed
someone
to
provide
professional
services,
be
it
legal
advice,
medical
care,
financial
management,
I
would
not
want
my
met,
my
neighbors
to
vote
on
the
provider
unless
I
had
assurance
that
the
provider
was
qualified,
competent
and
experienced
I
want
no
less
for
the
children
of
Clay
County
who
deserve
a
first-class
education.
I
Besides,
the
future
of
our
children,
the
well-being,
financial
and
otherwise
of
our
community
is
at
stake
in
next
month's
election.
The
reputation
of
our
school
system
is
linked
to
the
health
of
our
economy.
Let's
do
the
right
thing,
set
professional
standards
and
appoint
a
Clay
County
Superintendent
of
Schools.
J
Okay,
the
reason
why
I
did
put
this
on
the
agenda
is
because
you
know
there
has
been
a
there's
a
couple
of
items
coming
up
next,
where
we
had
advertised
for
the
job
description
and
the
process
for
an
appointed
superintendent
and
I
think
that's
all
fine
and
well.
J
However,
at
no
time
has
this
board
discussed
what
the
financial
impact
would
be,
and
so
what
I
wanted
to
do
was
I
wanted
to
actually
let
the
data
speak
for
itself,
and
so,
if
I
may,
madam
chair
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
take
the
podium
I
have
a
presentation
that
I
would
like
to
share
and
I've.
Provided
you
guys
a
couple
of
sheets
primarily
because
what
I'm
going
to
share
this
will
probably
be
hard
to
see
on
the
screen.
J
You
go
ahead
and
pull
that
up
for
me:
okay,
presentation,
okay,
so
really
for
the
benefit
of
everybody.
I
put
together
this
cost-benefit
analysis
and
my
approach
in
doing
this
is
the
same
approach
that
I
would
take
with
my
professional
career
anytime
that
we
are
going
to
look
at
making
an
investment
in
something
we
always
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
going
to
be
a
return
on
that
investment
and
so
I
took
the
same
approach
here
if
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
J
So
what
I'm
going
to
talk
about
is
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
comparison
assumptions
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
actual
cost
analysis
which
you
guys
have
a
sheet
of
there.
I'll
talk
about
the
summary
of
the
cost
differentials.
The
impact
of
the
budget.
Ask
the
question:
if
there
is
a
return
on
the
investment
and
then
a
closing
summary.
G
J
J
There
are
seven
districts
with
appointed
superintendents
that
are
closest
in
size
to
Clay
County
in
terms
of
their
population
and
their
student
size.
So
these
were
the
seven
districts
that
I
chose
to
compare
Clay
County
to
you
can
see:
they're,
st.
John's,
Alachua,
Hernando,
Osceola,
Indian,
River,
st.
Lucie
and
Charlotte,
and
in
the
back
up
tonight,
I
provided
the
actual
superintendent
contracts
for
all
of
those
counties.
J
Okay,
the
reason
why
I
think
these
seven
are
important
is
because,
when
we
go
to
start
soliciting,
if
we
go
to
start
soliciting
for
an
appointed
superintendent,
these
are
really
the
types
of
contracts
that
I
think
that
we're
going
to
have
to
compete
with.
So
that's
why
these
seven
were
chosen.
Okay,
like
I,
said
this
is
an
eye
chart
and
I
know.
Most
of
you
can't
see
it,
but
there
is
a
copy
of
this
that
was
provided
in
the
back
of
the
room.
J
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I
have
a
copy
in
front
of
me
and
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
walk
through
this
okay
and
I'm
going
to
summarize
it
pretty
much
across
the
top.
You
see
the
seven
different
districts
you
have
Clay
County
and
then
st.
Johns
and
all
the
other
ones
are
to
the
right
of
there
down
the
left-hand
side.
We
kind
of
have
there's
really
four
categories:
there
you
have
in
the
top,
you
have
district
comparisons
and
then
we
have
the
salary
and
benefits
professional
development.
J
We
have
miscellaneous
expenses
and
then
we
have
the
vacation
and
sick
leave
and
then
down
at
the
bottom.
We
have
those
one
time
cost
and
those
are
the
costs
that
I
categorized
as
the
upfront
cost,
which
are
costs
of
to
search
fees
and
any
administrative
types
of
fees,
travel,
expenses
and
things
to
bring
and
appointed
superintendent
in
for
interviews
and
then,
as
well
as
the
back-end
fees
which
are
buyout.
You
know
if
the
superintendent
resigns
or
he
has
to
be
fired
or
let
go
or
something
like
that.
J
There
are
significant
costs
when
you
let
a
an
appointed
superintendent
go
so
starting
at
the
top.
I
just
want
to
note
in
terms
of
the
district
comparison,
so
you
see
the
population
sizes
there,
clay,
County's
population
size
is
kind
of
right
in
the
middle
and
I
took
the
three
to
the
lower
end
and
three
to
the
upper
end.
Okay,
you
can
also
see
the
number
of
students
there,
and
the
interesting
thing
to
note
is
the
district
rankings.
You'll
notice
that
st.
Johns
County
is
the
only
a
rated
district
there.
J
Clay
is
the
berated
district
and
all
the
others
are
C
rated
districts.
Just
to
note
this,
the
superintendent's
names
that
are
in
red
font-
and
you
guys
probably
can't
see
that
because
I
think
you
have
black
and
white
copies.
But
if
you
look
up
here
that
would
be
dr.
joiner,
dr.
Robert,
Owens,
dr.
laurie,
romano,
dr.
Fran,
Adams
and
dr.
Doug
Whittaker.
These
are
all
superintendents
that
are
very
highly
qualified
and
all
contain
Doctorate
degrees.
Could
I
ask
a
question?
You
know
what
I'd
like
to
finish
first
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
discussion.
J
Okay
and
then
you
can
see
the
appointed
electorate
and
then
the
contract
term.
So
while
half
of
these
were
three-year
terms,
the
other
half
or
two-year
terms
and
again
I
did
not
get
the
information
for
dr.
Whittaker,
and
so
the
only
really
thing
that
I
put
there
was
just
what
I
knew
his
salary
was,
and
that
was
really
the
only
comparison
made
there.
So
you
can
see
the
salaries,
and
this
is
the
annual
base
salary
going
across.
J
And
what
I
noted
on
the
annual
base
salary
for
Indian
River
in
Charlotte
is
that
these
particular
counties
their
annual
base
salary
is
higher,
even
though
they
have
a
smaller
population
and
half
the
students
of
Clay
County.
So
there
doesn't
that
doesn't
really
correlate
to
anything,
okay
going
on
down
to
salaries
and
benefits
and
the
professional
development
all
of
those
first,
four
or
five
lines.
J
A
lot
of
the
contracts
didn't
specify
actual
dollar
amounts,
but
it
did
indicate
that
they
do
get
these
benefits,
and
so
what
I
did
was
I
just
put
yes
or
no,
yes
or
no,
and
for
the
most
part,
all
of
these
superintendent's
get
the
same
types
of
life,
insurance,
annual
disability,
contribution
to
health,
insurance,
FRS
and
tax.
Sheltered
annuity
plans,
with
the
exception
of,
if
you
look
at
the
top,
the
annual
physical
examination
required
all
appointed
superintendents.
J
J
Moving
on
down
there's
a
special
qualification
salary
that
some
superintendents
get
and
some
don't
our
superintendent
gets
it.
It's
two
thousand
dollars
across
the
board.
There's
a
CEO
leadership
development
certificate
that,
if
you
have
that,
that
range
can
be
anywhere
from
2,500
to
7,500.
So
for
the
purpose
of
averaging
I
chose
the
middle
and
then
a
performance
bonus
most
of
all
of
the
contracts
that
I
looked
at
the
superintendent's
get
a
some
kind
of
a
performance
bonus,
but
it's
typically
equated
with
that
that
the
usually
the
administers
same
as
the
administrators.
J
That's
that's
what
it
said
and
since
I
didn't
know
what
those
were
I
just
indicated
that
it's
the
same
as
the
administrators
when
we
get
down
to
miscellaneous
expenses,
I
think
the
biggest
one
here
is
this
organizational
membership
fee
and
conference
meetings.
This
would
include
the
things
like
your
costs
for
the
Florida
Association
of
district
superintendents
and
other
organizations
that
superintendents
belongs
to.
J
There
was
a
number
of
them
in
some
of
these
contracts
that
that
the
school
board
is
required
to
pay
these
costs
like
AAS,
FASA,
ASCD
and-
and
there
are
several
others,
I
I
do
know,
and
I
checked
with
our
district-
that
the
only
membership
that
our
district
pays
for
is
for
the
FA
DSS
of
the
Florida
Association
of
district
superintendents
and
that's
an
annual
fee
and
so
and
then
they
also
pay
for
the
FSB
a1,
which
is
for
the
school
board.
Members,
civic
and
community
activities
some
of
these
contracts.
J
Also,
several
of
these
superintendents
were
given
annual
automobile
supplements
and
some
of
them
were
650
a
month.
Some
of
them
were
750
a
month
and
so
forth,
and
so,
when
you
annualize
that
out,
the
average
comes
out
to
about
7200
per
year,
moving
on
down
to
vacation
and
sick
leave.
This
was
the
only
reason
why
I
put
this
in
here.
J
Everybody
gets
vacation
and
sick
leave,
whether
you're
appointed
or
whether
you're
elected,
but
the
reason
why
I
put
it
in
here
and
tried
to
capture
the
actual
number
of
days
that
they
earn
is
because
you,
when
you
get
down
to
those
one-time
cost
and
you
look
at
this
thing,
called
terminal
pay
terminal
pay
is
dependent
upon
how
much
accrued
vacation
and
sick
leave
that
you
get,
and
so
I
indicated
it
in
here
just
to
show
for
that
for
that
cause.
Okay.
J
When
you
add
in
the
all
the
other
extra
benefits
that
156,000
then
goes
up
to
about
a
hundred
and
eighty
eight,
that's
a
pretty
conservative
number,
considering
that
some
of
these
other
things
weren't
listed
here.
Okay,
that's
26%
higher
than
what
our
elected
superintendent
gets
and
then
lastly,
I
really
kind
of
want
to
talk
about
these
one-time
costs.
Okay,
one-time
cost.
This
is
what
I
call
the
upfront
costs
or
the
buyout
costs.
J
This
includes
search
firms
and
any
other
additional
cost
now
of
the
contracts
that
I
looked
at
most
of
them
at
one
time
or
another,
they
were
using
search
firms,
but
I
think
they
figured
out
that
using
the
F
SBA
was
a
little
cheaper
and
so
the
cost
that
you
see
there.
Most
of
them
are
FS
ba,
but
you
can
also
see
and
I'll
just
point
out:
st.
Lucie
County.
J
Their
cost
was
$24,000
the
last
time
they
did
a
search
and
it
was
primarily
because
they
did
use
the
FS
be
a
but
then
I
think
they
said
they
didn't
want
to
use
them
again
and
they
went
with
a
private
search
firm.
So
while
these
costs,
you
see
here
really
reflect
mostly
FS,
be
a
cost
and
all
of
the
other
associated
costs
that
kind
of
go
in
there.
J
If
you
use
a
private
search
firm,
it's
going
to
be
much
more
expensive,
then
you
have
the
next
item,
which
is
to
terminate
without
cause-
and
this
is
a
lot
of
these
contracts.
Have
this
stipulation
in
there
that
if
you
terminate
them
without
cause-
and
you
can
do
that
but
you're
going
to
have
to
pay
a
significant
buyout
which
for
most
of
them
it
was
20
weeks
of
their
annual
salary.
So
20
weeks,
let's
see
so
that
averaged
out
to
about
$82,000.
J
So
this
is
pretty
much
just
the
summary
of
that
cost
differential.
So
there
you
have
your
end
average
base
salary
is
twenty
one
point:
four
percent
increase.
You
got
your
Civic
and
community
stipends
in
your
automobile,
which
is
something
that
our
current
superintendent
does
not
receive.
That's
one
hundred
percent
increase
altogether
you're,
looking
about
a
twenty
six
percent
increase,
just
in
your
estimated
annual
salary
and
extra
benefits,
and
then,
when
you
look
at
just
your
one-time
costs
there,
it
comes
out
to
an
average
of
about
one
hundred
and
eighteen
thousand.
Okay.
J
Now
the
only
thing
that
I
wanted
to
make
a
note
of
here
is
consider
us
having
to
pay
the
average
one-time
cost
every
two
to
three
years.
If
our
selection
process
doesn't
yield
the
right
person
or
that
person
decides
to
resign,
so
I
want
to
take
just
a
second
and
quote
a
couple
things
that
I
got
from
an
article
that
I
found
and
I
will
cite
the
article.
J
This
is
from
the
TC
palm
and
the
article
was
titled
cost
one
factor
to
consider
when
selecting
an
appointed
superintendent
and
I'm
not
going
to
read
the
whole
article.
But
this
article
is
actually
written
in
2010.
It
was
when
Martin
County
was
trying
to
decide
whether
they
were
going
to
go
from
elected
to
an
appointed
superintendent,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
here
is
that
in
this
article
it
talks
about
a
costly
departure
and
I'm.
Just
going
to
read
here.
J
It
says
the
cost
involved
when
an
appointed
superintendent
leaves
a
district
can
also
be
high.
Indian
River
paid
Roger
Dearing
about
seventy
three
thousand
three
hundred
and
fifty
eight
dollars
in
unused
sick
and
vacation
time
when
he
resigned
in
2003
as
the
school
superintendent
to
take
a
position.
Manatee
County,
Indian,
River
paid
Tom
mayor
about
three
hundred
and
seventy
four
thousand
dollars.
Four
hundred
and
thirty
eight
for
18
months
of
salaries
and
benefits
when
the
school
board
fired
him
in
2005,
st.
J
Lucy
gave
School
Superintendent
Michael
Lannon
about
a
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
dollars
in
a
crude,
sick
and
vacation
time
when
he
retired
in
2009.
He
was
rehired
thirty
days
later
at
the
base,
pay
of
a
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars.
So
to
me,
I
just
thought
that
consider
having
to
pay
that
118
thousand
dollars
every
couple
years
if
your
selection
process
doesn't
yield
that
right
person
the
first
time,
okay.
J
So
now
in
talking
about
the
impact
to
the
fund
balance,
we
all
know.
Florida
statute
requires
the
school
district
to
have
a
three
percent
minimum
fund
balance.
We
know
that
our
fund
balance
as
of
June
2014,
was
two
point:
two
four
percent
based
on
our
approved
budget
that
we
just
approved.
We
projected
the
June
2015
funny
to
be
two
point:
five,
eight
percent
in
the
letter
that
the
superintendent
sent
to
the
state.
J
It
indicated
in
there
that,
in
order
for
us
to
get
to
a
three
percent
fine
balance
by
June
2015,
we
would
need
to
increase
our
unreserved
fund
balance
by
about
a
million
dollars.
The
additional
cost
that
we're
looking
at
here
for
an
appointed
superintendent
was
not
budgeted.
We
never
talked
about
it
in
our
budget.
J
The
only
revenue
available
to
offset
that
added
cost
would
have
to
come
out
of
our
unreserved
fund
balance,
and
so
that
would
result
in
a
negative
impact
to
our
proposed
fund.
Balance
and
I
would
say
further
risk
to
our
bond
rating
and
I
would
just
ask
if
I
may,
dr.
copelan,
do
you
have
any
or
do
you
have
any
other
take
on
that
in
terms
of
where
you
know
the
added
cost
and
how
it
would
impact
our
fund
balance.
K
J
J
Proponents
of
an
appointed
superintendent
say
it's
well
worth
the
extra
cost
and
I
want
to
quote
quote
it's
well
worth
it.
What
you're
getting
is
experienced
said:
Polk
County
school
board,
member
frankgo
Riley,
who
helped
hire
Polk's
first
appointed
superintendent
in
2004,
when
the
voters
approved
the
change
from
an
elected
superintendent
to
an
appointed
one
I
think
it's
interesting
to
note
that
in
2004,
Polk
County
was
rated
AC
district
14
years
later,
at
the
benefit
of
having
an
appointed
superintendent,
Polk
County
is
still
AC
rated
district
and
they're
ranked
60th
in
the
state.
J
So
what's
the
return
on
investment?
What
is
the
data?
Tell
us?
I
went
to
school
grades
at
FL.
Do
a
org
and
I
pulled
up
a
number
of
reports
and
data
that
I
put
into
a
spreadsheet,
and
this
is
what
the
data
says
of
the
population
growth.
So
this
was
an
argument
that
I've
been
hearing
for
the
last
couple
years
is
an
argument
in
support
of
having
an
appointed
superintendent,
the
larger
the
county.
J
We
need
an
appointed
superintendent
to
be
able
to
manage
that
so
of
the
seven
other
districts
comparable
in
size
to
clay
with
the
pointed
superintendents.
Only
one
of
them
ranks
higher
than
clay,
and
that
would
be
saying
Jones.
The
other
ones
are
all
C
rated
districts
altogether.
There's
24
districts
that
have
larger
populations
than
clay
of
those
24
19
of
them
have
appointed
superintendents,
but
only
six
of
them
rank
higher
than
clay
qualification
was
an
argument
also
in
support
of
an
appointed
superintendent
of
the
26
appointed
superintendents.
J
14
of
them
have
Doctorate
degrees,
I
think
that's
a
pretty
high
qualification
of
those
14.
Only
two
of
them
are
a
districts.
Four
are
B
districts
and
eight
are
C
districts
altogether.
Only
three
of
them
rank
higher
than
Clay
experience.
This
was
another
argument.
The
argument
that
Clay
County
has
declined
over
the
past
decade
as
a
result
of
inexperience.
J
That
is
a
fallacy.
The
truth
is
into
a
county
has
been
an
a-rated
district
for
the
past
decade
and
the
truth
is
in
2013.
40
of
the
67
District's
dropped
one
letter
grade
as
a
result
of
FCAT
2.0
writing
standard
being
raised
to
3.5,
and
there
is
in
my
back
up
here.
If
anybody
wants
to
see
it,
there
is
the
Florida
district
grades
history,
where
it
points
out
over
the
last
decade,
all
the
times
that
the
state
raised
the
bar
and
you
could
see
those
districts
every
time
they
did.
J
Those
districts
would
drop
a
letter
grade
and
go
up
and
go
down.
So
the
idea
that
experience
is
the
reason
why
Clay
County
is
declining
is
a
fallacy.
Clay
County
is
not
declining.
Clay
County
dropped
from
an
a
to
a
B
teachers
and
administrators
agree
that
the
lack
of
preparation
time
given
by
the
state
for
teachers
to
prepare
students
were
to
blame
and
I
heard
that
all
over
the
place.
It
wasn't
the
teachers
and
it
wasn't
the
superintendent
and
since
that
time,
Clay
County
has
increased
its
overall
numerical
score
and
today
is
only
11
points.
J
Shy
of
returning
to
an
a
district
of
the
26
districts
with
appointed
superintendent's.
50%
of
them
are
C
rated
districts.
40%
are
B
and
only
three
are
a
rated
districts
of
the
top
10
districts
in
the
state.
Seven
are
elected
and
only
three
are
appointed.
So
what
does
the
data
really
say?
And
you
can't
argue
with
the
data
the
idea
that
an
appointed
superintendent
is
necessary
for
larger
counties.
This
fallacy,
the
data,
shows
just
the
opposite.
The
idea
that
only
an
appointed
superintendent
with
a
higher
education
degree
yields
greater
district
outcome
is
also
a
fallacy.
J
The
data
shows
no
correlation.
The
data
shows
no
evidence
at
all
that
an
appointed
superintendent
is
responsible
for
yielding
higher
district
outcomes.
In
fact,
there
are
more
elected
superintendents
in
the
state
of
Florida,
yielding
higher
district
outcomes
than
there
are
appointed
ones,
and
so
with
that,
I
would
like
to
just
say
that,
based
on
this,
what
I
would
like
to
do?
J
I
put
this
on
the
agenda,
because
I
would
like
for
the
board
my
board
members
to
consider
the
cost
impact
to
the
fund
balance
and
to
ask
you
that
if
this
ballot
measure
is
passed,
I
would
like
to
ask
you
to
please
consider
postponing
the
appointment
process
until
the
2016
general
election.
For
two
reasons,
number
one:
it
would
give
us
the
chance
to
get
our
fund
balance
back
to
3%
and,
secondly,
it
would
allow
this
superintendent
to
finish
out
the
four-year
term
by
which
he
was
duly
elected
by
the
citizens
of
Clay
County.
A
A
L
Melanie
sanders
8130
middle
art,
court,
Melrose
Florida
good
evening,
so
we've
all
heard
a
lot
of
opinions
over
the
last
several
months
about
the
elected
versus
appointed
superintendent
issue.
But
I
haven't
heard
anything
that
fits
my
thinking
exactly
so.
I
just
would
like
to
share
that
with
you
tonight,
and
this
is
just
one
reason
that
I
that
I
don't
feel
like.
We
need
to
consider
an
appointed
superintendent
at
this
time.
L
I've
worked
in
Clay
County
Schools
for
almost
15
years
as
a
substitute,
a
teacher
and
an
administrator
I'm.
Also
a
mother
of
two
Clay
County
students
and
a
Clay
County
taxpayer
and
voter
in
my
schools,
I've
felt
the
effects
of
our
budget
tightening
over
the
last
few
years
for
sure
I've
always
had
the
things
I
needed
to
do
my
job,
but
lately
that
statement
is
only
barely
true.
L
Yes,
we
still
have
the
minimum
that
we
need
to
get
by,
but
in
order
to
increase
student
achievement,
it's
my
opinion
that
there
are
things
that
we
need.
We
need
books
for,
classroom
libraries,
we
need
funds
to
reward
and
motivate
students.
We
need
updated
technology,
more
computers,
more
handheld
devices.
We
need
the
ability
to
purchase
items
to
increase
school
spirit
and
for
staff
motivation.
We
need
access
to
more
professional
learning
experiences.
We
need
pencils
and
paper,
yes,
pencils
and
paper.
L
Sorry,
we
can't
send
you
to
that
worthwhile
conference,
no
I'm!
Sorry,
we
don't
have
money
to
buy
you
that
resource
that
you
want
no
I'm.
Sorry
they're
just
start
funds
for
that
saying
no
to
her.
While
this
board
potentially
says
yes
to
unnecessary
spending,
it
just
doesn't
make
sense,
and
unfortunately
I'm
good
at
saying
no
I've
had
a
lot
of
practice.
So
no
I
will
not
vote
to
give
the
ability
to
hire
a
search,
firm
or
or
pay
a
superintendent
that
will
be
too
expensive.
Thank
you.
Okay.
N
M
Of
firms
board
let
the
thing
miss
McKinnon
for
that
that
was
very
informative,
I'm
sure
people
could
find
other
numbers
and
it'd
be
a
debatable
item.
There's
a
lot
of
different
costs.
I
mean
one
is
like
he
put
a
dollar
amount
on
the
reputation
in
his
school
district.
For
the
last
two
years
we
have
been
a
laughingstock
of
Northeast,
Florida
I'm,
not
saying
this
in
one
party,
you
know
when
two
parties
argue
who's
to
say
that
one
is
entirely
of
blame.
M
We
also
remind
you.
This
is
a
ballot
item,
I'm,
not
an
attorney,
but
basically
the
citizens
are
the
head
of
the
government.
We
are
a
representative
Republic.
In
most
cases,
we,
the
citizens,
delegate
their
authority,
in
this
case,
to
a
school
board.
Now
the
state
legislature
wrote
a
statute
legislators
elected
by
the
people
that
allows
you
to
majority
this
board
to
put
an
item
on
the
ballot
to
appoint
a
superintendent
of
schools.
That's
the
law,
that's
how
the
people
are
represented
in
a
representative
Republic.
M
Now,
if
this
item
comes
back,
yes
I,
don't
think
it
gives
you
the
legal
wiggle
room
to
say:
let's
wait
two
years
according
to
the
wording,
I
believe
that
it
says
the
superintendent
will
be
appointed
again,
not
an
attorney,
but
I
believe
that
that
is
legally
binding.
In
that
case,
there
will
be
no.
If
it
comes
back.
Yes,
I
believe
there
will
be
no
elected
superintendent
of
schools
that
day
that
passes,
in
which
case
you
will
therefore
be
required
to
appoint
someone
in
some
form.
M
I
do
not
believe
you
have
the
legal
authority
to
override
a
vote
of
the
citizens
and
say
we'll
wait
two
years
nor
more
then
our
County
Commission
had
the
legal
authority
which
had
to
be
pounded
into
impound
and
who
would
finally
deal
by
a
judge
to
say:
let's
wait,
two
years
I
believe
the
laws
are
pretty
clear
and
well
I
appreciate
I
mean
I,
appreciate
the
fiscal
responsibility.
Nobody
wants
to
waste
money,
that's
the
problem
with
ballot.
O
M
G
A
D
J
I,
do
yes,
so
let
me
see
so
I
have
a
sheet
here.
So.
D
J
I,
don't
know
exactly
when
they
were
appointed,
but
I
do
have
some
data
here.
I
do
know
that
I
new
do
know
that
dr.
joiner
at
st.
John's,
Ken
yeah
he's
been
there
for
quite
quite
quite
a
while.
Madam.
J
D
J
D
You,
okay,
any
other
discussion.
I
had
one
other
question
under
the
miscellaneous
expense
under
the
annual
autumn
supplement
allowance.
I'm
sure
that
we
do
provide
travel
allocation
for
our
superintendent,
whether
he
has
a
one
of
our
vehicles.
He
uses
for
time-to-time
I'm
sure
that
we
do
take
care
of
that.
Is
that
correct
mr.
Van
Zandt?
You
have
an
automobile!
Well,
he
doesn't
I
mean,
but
he
has
use
of
when.
G
B
J
B
We
do
know
that
and
I
think
the
biggest
factor
is
is
that
this
is
a
bad
governance
model
to
have
an
elected
superintendent
and
elected
school
board.
You
know
we
are
both
responsible
to
the
constituents.
The
school
board
is
tasked
with
setting
policy
and
budget,
and
the
superintendent
is
tasked
with
carrying
out
or
implementing
the
policies
that
we
in
fact
set
in
place,
which
is
not
happening
here
in
our
county.
B
Just
today,
there
was
a
press
conference
outside
superintendent
was
notified,
the
chairman
of
the
board
and
our
attorney
of
what
our
policy
reads
and
how
any
outside
organization
that
chooses
to
use
our
grounds
has
to
follow
proper
procedure.
Yet
they
were
not
asked
to
step
off
the
school
grounds
like
the
Chairman
directed
our
superintendent
to
direct.
B
I
can't
direct
the
suit
I
requested
requested,
so
this
is
just
a
bad,
a
bad
model
to
me,
and
you
know
if
this.
If
we
should
embark
on
this
better
model
of
government
with
an
appointed
superintendent,
then
we
can
adhere
to
the
state
salary,
which
is
you
know,
one
hundred
and
twenty,
two
thousand
for
the
superintendent
who,
by
the
way,
receives
fifty
three
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
his
retirement.
If
we
had
an
appointed
superintendent,
it
would
be
the
same
as
our
senior
staff,
which
is
a
lot
less.
B
J
B
Think
is
it's
a
wash
that
the
school
board
will
try
to
keep
costs
down.
We
want
to
get
the
greatest
benefit
from
an
appointed
superintendent
and
minimize
expenses,
and
I
know
that
it
will
be
very
complex
negotiations
that
take
place
and
that's
the
reason
that
we'll
have
a
committee
selecting
the
most
qualified
and
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
we
were
able
to
find
somebody
here
in
Clay
County
that
would
possibly
be
the
same
or
if
not
less
I
mean
I
I
feel
very
strongly
about
this
governance
model
being
very
bad
for
the
district.
B
A
Q
A
M
Basically,
what
you
get
with
an
appointed
superintendent
of
schools
is
the
same
thing
that
you
get
with
any
other
appointed
manager
like
the
appoints
city
managers
and
County
managers,
and
they
appoint
the
managers
of
virtually
every
single
government
body
in
existence
in
America.
Is
that
the
pointy
well
he's
generally
highly
qualified
and
they
just
do
their
job.
There's
not
any
conflict.
They're
supposed
to
give
recommendations
to
a
board,
carry
out
the
policy
to
the
board,
carry
out
the
day-to-day
business.
M
Well,
we've
seen
in
Clay
County
for
the
last
two
years
is
over
the
top,
because
I'm
of
the
opinion,
you
know
a
lot
of
the
people
have
come
in
here,
public
speaking,
which
they
have
a
right
to
do.
Well,
there's
you
know,
support
of
the
superintendent
and
it
in
a
certain
extent
it
has
undermined
the
ability
of
this
governing
board
to
govern,
and
this
new
political
committee
citizen
his
voice.
I've
got
a
lot
of
problem
with
that,
because
I
am
a
citizens
activist
I
stood
up
on
a
lot
of
issues
over
the
years.
M
M
Don't
really
you
know
people
who
are
suspicious
of
the
rich
and
the
powerful
and
it's
almost
entirely
funded
by
special
interests,
two
thousand
dollars
from
the
lobbyists,
a
thousand
dollars
from
a
from
a
charter
school
form
and
for
some
ungodly
reason:
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
from
a
pharmaceutical
company.
Why
in
the
world,
is
a
pharmaceutical
company,
the
biggest
contributor
to
aid,
but
suppose
to
be
a
grassroots
political
committee?
I,
don't
know
what's
going
on,
but
I'm
really
afraid
what's
going
to
happen
after
elections.
M
We
won't
have
again
enough
puppets
on
the
board.
These
people
are
basically
going
to
see
like
all
your
public
money
that
goes
into
schools
going
to
all
these
public.
These
special
interest
groups
basically
sucking
your
taxpayer
money
and
put
it
in
their
pocket.
That's
why
they're
putting
money
into
it.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
F
Amber
Shepherd
clay
citizens
voice
political
committee,
chair
I,
find
it
very
interesting
at
the
last
school
board
meeting
how
was
gavel
down
over
and
over
and
over
again,
because
my
comment
supposedly
were
not
relevant
to
the
appointed
versus
elected
superintendent.
Yet,
at
this
board
meeting
a
gentleman
is
able
to
bring
up
a
political
committee
that
has
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
the
public
hearing
and
you
allow
it
so
like
the
letter
I
receive.
That
said
about
arbitrarily
enforcing
your
board
rules.
F
I
think
that
this
is
a
prime
example
and
it
needs
to
stop
and
on
topic.
This
is
highly
inappropriate
to
be
having
these
conversations
and
these
changes
to
board
policy.
I
really
believe
that
miss
Bullock
ought
to
recuse
herself,
considering
the
citizens
have
already
voted
that
they
don't
want
her
opinion
in
these
matters
anymore,
and
maybe
we
should
have
the
vote
be
brought
down
to
four
people
that
are
still
citizens.
F
A
A
G
H
Ma'am
I
don't
care
if
they
try
to
shout
it
over
me.
It
doesn't
make
any
difference,
because
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I.
You
know
what
Tina
said
about
her
not
being
voted
in
either
that
you
know
I,
don't
think,
that's
really
anything
that
we
need
to
be
discussing
right
now.
This
is
about
job
descriptions
and,
like
I
said
before
one
of
the
advantages
of
going
over
and
appointed
is
we
can
take
a
look
at
the
specific
needs
of
the
district
right
now.
H
You
know
we
say
that
we're
in
a
financial
difficulty
where
we
can
find
somebody
that
has
financial
specialties,
somebody
that
knows
how
to
manage
financial
difficulty
and
shepherdess
do
this
in
and
again
I'm
not
taking
anything
away
from
mr.
Van
Zant,
but
it's
just
I
see
it
as
a
way
of
making
sense
with
what
we're
doing
of
setting
a
direction
setting
a
course
and
getting
the
right
person
to
take
us
in
that
direction,
and
we
can
tailor
that
tailor
the
needs
of
the
job
to
whatever
our
district
needs.
H
At
that
time,
I
find
that
the
highest.
You
know
highest
degree
of
admiration
in
that
and
that
we
can
do
that.
We
have
the
ability
to
do
that
when
we
go
to
an
appointed
superintendent
and,
like
I,
said
again,
nothing
against
mr.
Van
Zandt,
but
when
you're
sitting
there
and
you're
trying
to
pick
from
people
that
are
going
to
get
voted
in,
you
really
don't
get
to
make
those
kind
of
distinctions.
Now,
if
mr.
H
Van
Zandt
had
a
doctorate
in
finance
and
could
come
in
and
and
do
this
I'd
be
all
for
it,
I
left
the
position.
I
wouldn't
care
one
way
or
the
other.
If
he
could
do
the
job
and
I'm
not
saying
that
he's
not
done
reasonably
in
a
decent
job.
We
need
to
get
to
the
fact
that
we
need
to
do
what's
right
for
our
school
district
to
make
our
school
district
stronger,
now
you're
talking
about
the
seas
and
they
are
asking
about
the
superintendent's.
The
of
those
superintendents
that
she
mentioned.
H
Miss
Bullock,
the
one
that
had
been
on
the
longest
was
in
2010
the
rest
of
them
were.
There
was
one
in
2011
two
in
2020,
one
in
2012
and
two
of
them
in
2013,
so
they
really
haven't
been
on
there
long
enough
to
bring
them
up
so
I
mean
we
can't
really
sight
that
you
got
it.
If
you're
going
to
show
us
some
data
and
show
us
some
facts,
prove
it.
J
Can
I
just
make
a
comment?
I'm
sure
I
just
would
like
to
make
a
comment.
I
appreciate
your
comments
about
the
finance,
but
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
do
think
we
have
one
of
the
finest
chief
financial
officers
around
who
does
have
a
Doctorate
degree.
They
certainly
didn't
dr.
copelan
and
when
it
comes
to
managing
finances,
that's
exactly
what
dr.
copelan
does
and
a
budget
every
year
is
brought
to
this
school
board,
and
it's
this
school
board
who
approves
a
budget
up
or
down
it
is
not
superintendent.
A
O
Evening
my
name
is
Joe
Riley
I
live
in
Green
Cove
Springs
Florida
I,
like
to
agree
with
everything
miss
McKinnon
brought
tonight.
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
the
background
over
the
past
several
months
on
appointing
a
superintendent
versus
an
elected
one
and
I
agree
with
everything
she
said.
Everything
should
come
out
with
his
hard
numbers.
O
One
of
the
things
she
was
surprised
she
didn't
bring
up
was,
if
you
go
to
school,
bigger,
calm
or
just
about
any
other
website
that
you
want
to
look
for
a
great
place
to
go,
live
one
of
the
things
that
they
score
is
schools.
The
state
of
Florida
and
I
was
surprised
depending
on
which
website
you
go
to.
The
state
of
Florida
is
ranked
either
tenth
somewhere
between
10th
and
17th
in
the
country.
O
Now,
I
don't
give
a
flying
flip
about
the
rest
of
the
schools
in
the
country
that
they're
all
appointed.
What
that's
telling
me
what
all
these
other
websites
and
all
these
other
sources
are
telling
me
if
state
of
Florida
is
in
the
top
ten
or
in
the
top.
Twenty,
even
of
States
for
school
districts
and
state
of
Florida
has
more
elected
superintendents
than
appointed
superintendents.
R
R
R
Almost
cried
a
few
minutes
ago
were
still
in
tears,
almost
because
I
really
can't
believe
that
you
don't
know
what
you
did.
You
allowed
people
to
clap
when
they
agreed
with
you
and
miscarriages.
You
didn't
say
a
word,
you
didn't
gavel,
but
when
it
was
somebody
when
we
clapped
for
who
we
agreed
with
that's
a
terrible
nono.
That's
what's
wrong
with
up
here.
You
have
your
own
agenda.
R
Mr.
Christiansen
can
come
here
and
say
who
has
what
I
could
tell
who
your
contributors
are,
and
some
of
them
to
me
are
pretty
bizarre.
Oh
okay,
I
just
want
to
say
that,
because
I
know
you
wouldn't
have
to
get
rid
of
mr.
Van
Zandt
the
day
of
the
election,
if
it
wasn't
a
personal
hatred
and
bitterness
that
you
carry
in
your
heart.
Thank
you
would.
A
B
A
J
A
Public
hearing
on
amendments
to
school
board
policy,
six
GX,
chin,
1.0,
three
D
to
the
Superintendent
of
Schools
appointment
of
Superintendent
candidate
search
evaluation
and
herring-
miss
Cara
kiss,
but
this
is
a
public
hearing
and,
let's
see,
I've
got
okay,
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
for
this
item.
Mr.
Christian,
you
did
have
a
card.
Did
you
want
to
address
the
board
during
the
public
hearing?
Okay,
anybody
else
would
like
to
speak
to
the
board
during
the
public
hearing,
then
I'll
bring
it
back
to
the
board.
A
Close
the
public
hearing,
miss
caritas,
I'll
move
approval
ii,
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
indicate
by
saying
aye,
aye,
all
opposed,
say.
No
motion
carries
three.
Two
next
item
approved
citizen
application
form
for
Clay,
County
school
board,
superintendent
selection
committee
members,
miss
Cara,
cos
I'll,
wait.
I
do
have
a
card
on
this
one
amber
Shepherd.
F
G
B
I
do
I
do
have
a
comment
to
make
and
I
just
want
everybody
to
know
that
this
application
is
mirrors.
The
County
Commission
that
they
use
for
their
Charter
Review,
Committee
and
I
would
like
my
motion,
I'd
like
to
move
that
we
approve
the
application
for
the
committee
application
for
superintendent
of
Clay,
County,
Schools
and
direct
the
superintendent
to
heaven.
B
M
is
number
assigned
to
this
and
published
it
on
the
website
immediately
I'd
like
the
citizens
to
have
access
to
this
as
of
tomorrow
or
Monday
at
the
very
latest,
so
that
if
they
would
like
to
go
on
and
fill
out
this
application,
it
can
be
done
immediately
and
I
would
like
to
or
the
applications
to
be
sent
to
mr.
big
nur,
the
school
board
attorney,
and
he
can
then
send
them
out
to
all
five
of
the
school
board
members.
B
G
B
G
N
B
A
Any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
indicate
by
saying
aye
aye,
all
opposed,
say
no
motion
carries
3,
2,
miss
McKinnon
and
miss
Graham
dissenting.
The
next
item
is
the
networking
district
device
overview
School
District
of
Clay
County.
This
was
pulled
by
miss
Cara,
cos
and
I.
Let
me
see.
No
I
have
a
card
on
the
next
one.
Okay,
miss
Cara
cos
I.
B
Ayatollahs,
just
just
to
really
have
it
as
an
item
to
discuss
among
the
board
and
mr.
Hendricks
I,
don't
know
if
he's
out
there
I
think
I
saw
him
earlier
today.
He
did
send
me
an
email
and
I
apologize
for
not
getting
back
with
you.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
this
I
just
wanted
to
just
get
some
clarification.
I
know
this
is
for
our
student
use
and
I
know
that
now
that
they
are
bringing
their
own
devices
to
school
and
I
really
just
wanted
you
to
explain
it
to
and
I
don't
know.
B
B
B
S
S
As
you
know,
within
IT
within
technology
this
this
should
be
a
living
breathing
document
right,
in
fact,
I
would
I
would
even
caution
that
this
document
be
reviewed
monthly,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
in
line
with
industry
standards,
not
to
mention
any
particular
vendors
but
Facebook
or
Twitter.
They
change
their
privacy
policies
and
we
need
to
also
make
sure
that
we
change
our
policies
or
our
guidelines.
S
S
S
The
original
document
is
online.
We
can
take
a
look
at
if
you'd
like,
but
what
the
what
districts
are
doing
around
the
country.
Just
to
give
you
a
kind
of
a
historical.
This
section
of
the
employee
handbook
was
approximately
twelve
to
fourteen
pages.
It
was
scaled
down
to
five
pages.
Most
districts
have
a
one
page
right.
S
B
E
A
G
A
T
Good
evening,
let's
crane,
you
have
my
address
for
the
record
today,
I
recently
learned
of
the
school
districts
initiative
to
use
social
media
as
a
way
to
communicate
with
families,
community
members
and
future
homeowners
of
Clay
County
I
applaud
the
district
for
entering
the
digital
age
as
a
way
to
communicate.
My
applause,
however,
is
that
of
a
golfclap.
T
When
I
learned
what
types
of
information
would
be
placed
on
Facebook
pages,
it
is
my
understanding
and
again
I
just
learned
this
today
that
our
schools
will
have
Facebook
pages
that
will
include
stories
of
the
happenings
within
our
schools
and
pictures
of
our
students.
In
2003,
a
reporter
came
to
my
classroom
to
film
my
students
making
cards
for
a
father
who
was
on
the
USS
Truman
I
was
under
very
strict
instruction
by
the
administration
that
no
student
bases
were
to
be
filmed.
T
This
guideline
was
met
now,
10
years
later,
we
are
willingly
to
put
our
students
on
the
Internet.
I
am
very
concerned
and
I
have
questions.
I
spoke
to
a
few
parents
tonight
at
my
gym
and
to
get
their
opinion
here
are
some
quotes
No
hell?
No
I
am
a
parent
I
will
determine
what
pictures
if
any
of
my
children
will
go
on
the
Internet.
What,
if
there's
a
custody
issue
between
parents?
No
I
don't
want
my
child's
picture
on
a
school's
Facebook
page.
That
is
a
shopping
list
for
PERTs
for
predators.
T
No,
some
questions
to
think
about
who
will
be
liable
if
pictures
are
posted
that
should
not
be
posted.
Who
will
be
liable
if
heaven
forbid
the
site
is
used
as
a
shopping
list?
Who
will
be
liable
if
a
comment
is
placed
on
a
page
way
to
go
Abby
you're
an
awesome
sister
who
will
be
liable
if
a
parent
later
complaints,
the
pictures
were
posted
without
their
express
permission.
Now
from
a
labor
perspective,
it
is
my
understanding
that
effective
October,
thirty-first
Facebook
will
be
available
to
all
employees
on
school
computers.
T
No
to
my
teachers,
who
are
watching
at
home,
do
not
go
on
Facebook
on
a
school
computer.
It
can
be
tracked
while
this
document
for
employees
is
filled
with
weasel
words,
such
as
guidance
and
may
I
and
may
I'm
still
deeply
concerned.
Questions
to
ponder
will
teachers
be
disciplined
if
they
violate
one
of
these
guidelines.
Well,
teachers
be
placed
on
PDP's
if
they
violate
one
of
these
guidelines,
who
will
be
monitoring
the
teachers
Facebook
pages
to
ensure
that
these
lines
are
being
followed?
Will
there
be
a
new
position
created
just
for
this
purpose?
T
If
a
teacher
does
happen
to
go
on
Facebook
during
contract
hours
to
check
their
kingdoms
of
Camelot,
will
they
be
disciplined
or
placed
on
a
PvP
teachers
again
do
not
go
on
Facebook
on
a
school
computer,
it
can
be
tripped.
I
also
learned
that
there
will
be
teachers
who
will
be
posting
on
the
school's
Facebook
pages
and
monitoring
these
comments
more
questions.
Will
this
be
a
compensated
duty?
When
will
the
teachers
do
this?
T
What
if
they
allow
a
comment
to
be
posted
that
they
do
not
find
offensive,
but
someone
else
does
what,
if
they
do
not
allow
a
comment
that
they
feel
is
offensive
and
others
do
not?
Will
these
teachers
be
disciplined
for
making
these
mistakes?
Will
the
teacher
be
liable
if
they
post
pictures
of
students
that
should
not
be
posted?
If
this
happens,
will
the
school
board
pay
the
attorney
fees
and
possible
lawsuit
settlement
if
the
need
arises
or
will
the
teacher
be
on
their
own?
Thank
you.
Ooh
I.
G
A
S
S
These
are
strictly
helpful,
hints
again
to
support
faculty,
giving
them
an
idea
of
what
can
be
done
when
you're
on
social
media.
These
these
are
again
meant
to
assist
employees
with
proper
use
of
social
media
as
a
school
board
employee,
not
on
district
network,
but
when
you're
at
home,
on
social
media.
Okay,.
A
Different,
so
somebody
won't
be
going
into,
they
won't
be
going
in
the
schools
and
taking
pictures
of
Suzy
Smith
and
Johnny
Jones
and
putting
it
on
Facebook
so
that
some
wacko
knows
where
they
go
to
school
and
all
that
if
they
get
on
the
school's
Facebook
page
I
mean
I
want
to.
We
want
to
make
sure
our
kids
are
as
safe
as
possible.
Absolutely
in
this
helps
that
won't
happen.
A
And
so
I've
always
is
it,
and
this
may
be
a
legal
question,
but
I've
always
been
told
that
you
know
if
they
come
into
the
classroom
that
they
just
can
take
a
picture
of
like
the
back
of
the
heads
I
know
when
Miss
mala
used
to
work
for
us,
I've
heard
her
say
several
times.
You
know
you
just
take
it.
The
back
of
their
heads
and
you
don't
do.
Is
that
y'all's
understanding?
That's
what.
A
E
B
Is
not
a
change
from
that's
what
the
concern
is
because
I
kind
of
feel
concerned
about
it
too,
is
you
know
our
district
website?
Yes,
it
does
have
some
photos
and
parents
do
sign,
but
if
we're
doing
Facebook
pages
at
all
the
schools,
who
is
making
sure
that
those
kids
that
are
put
on
there
have
a
permission,
slip
signed
or
opt.
S
E
B
B
U
B
B
To
give
out
all
this
information,
because
you
know
there
are
predators
out
there,
not
everybody's
a
good
person,
and
you
know
we
are
responsible
for
these
children.
Their
safety
and
security
comes
first.
We
all
know
that,
and
so
I
understand
why
we're
putting
this
in
place
and
everything,
but
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
have
more
Facebook
accessibility,
they're
just
concerns
me
and.
B
A
G
A
A
E
A
Say
no
motion
carries
5-0,
Human
Resources
special
action
be
I'll,
entertain
a
motion.
I'll
move
approval.
He
talked
bad.
You
have
to
go
fast
motion
by
Ms
McKennon,
second,
by
Miss
Grahame,
all
those
in
favor
indicate
by
saying
aye
aye
all
opposed.
They
no
motion
carries
5-0,
Human,
Resources
and
and
for
those
of
you
who
have
never
been
to
a
school
board
meeting.
These
are
actions
that
we
take
that
are
confidential,
so
that
there
will
be
no
discussion
on
this
with
its
employees.
D
A
G
A
N
Madam
chair,
if
you
look
at
each
station,
I
have
put
a
single
page
and
it
says
49
/c,
seven,
and
that
is
page
three
of
that
particular
item
in
the
backup.
The
only
changes
is
that
all
of
the
object
codes
were
incorrectly
entered,
and
so
the
object
codes
have
been
changed
on
the
handout
that
I
just
gave
you.
So
with
that
change,
that's
how
you
be
approving
it.
A
E
A
N
G
A
P
Hello,
I'm
Karen
Donovan
from
Orange
Park
to
Orange
Park
Florida
I
am
opposed
to
the
debt
legalization
of
the
youth,
possession,
cultivation,
delivery
and
sale
of
marijuana,
while
its
stated
purpose
on
the
upcoming
ballot
might
be
medicinal
in
every
state
where
it
is
legal.
The
recreational
use
of
it
has
increased
in
teens
ages,
12
to
17
getting
high
on
marijuana
in
this
age
group
translates
into
high
risk,
behaviors
truancy,
drug
dependency
and
possibly
opening
the
door
to
more
dangerous
drugs.
Research
has
shown
that
in
the
maturing
brain
use
of
marijuana
destroys
brain
cells.
P
In
fact,
a
lowering
of
IQ
by
as
much
as
eight
points,
secondhand
smoke
from
marijuana
will
be
a
danger
in
the
home.
Children
are
vulnerable
because
they
cannot
leave
the
house
and
may
not
know
to
leave
even
the
room
when
it
fills
with
smoke.
This
can
result
in
a
secondhand
high
and
increased
risk
of
lung
disease.
There
is
no
standard
for
the
product,
strength
or
quality
as
written,
because
the
Food
and
Drug
Administration
has
not
tested
nor
approved
it.
P
The
American
Medical
Association
opposes
it,
as
well
as
the
American,
Cancer,
Society
and
all
other
professional
organizations
for
the
diseases
for
which
this
law
is
supposed
to
be,
protecting
and
and
helping.
Instead,
these
organizations
urge
that
more
research
be
done.
Broad
immunity
from
criminal
and
civil
liability
will
be
granted
to
anyone
and
everyone
involved
in
this
chain
of
custody
of
medical
marijuana.
A
designated
caregiver
will
require
no
background
check
and
no
medical
training
to
sign
up,
purchase
and
sell
marijuana
even
to
minors,
because
there
is
no
parental
consent
written
in
there.
P
For
someone
we
don't
want.
Selling
this
product
to
our
child
may
be
able
to
do
so
Lee,
and
so
the
Florida
Sheriff
Association
is
against
it,
because
once
it
is
into
law,
they
will
not
be
able
to
protect
us
from
these
anomalies.
The
list
of
diseases
is
followed
by
this
quote
or
other
conditions,
for
which
a
physician
believes
that
the
medical
use
of
marijuana
might
likely
outweigh
the
potential
risk
for
a
patient.
This
means
that
in
other
states,
this
law
has
passed.
Certificates
have
been
written
by
doctors
for
things
such
as
anxiety,
insomnia
and
backache.
P
It
would
be
almost
impossible
to
fix
its
many
flaws
because
it
would
be
enshrined
in
the
Constitution
rather
than
being
a
general
law
that
could
be
changed
or
improved
as
education
leaders
in
the
county.
I
call
upon
you
as
a
United
School
Board,
to
issue
a
public
Proclamation
against
legalizing
the
use
of
marijuana.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
J
B
Q
A
N
A
K
Hopefully,
as
we
get
a
little
further
down
and
we
get
our
count
which
takes
place
this
week
on
our
FTE
it'll,
have
a
positive
impact
and
hopefully
we'll
receive
that
prior
to
our
Christmas
break
and
December,
normally
that
third
calculation
or
any
calculation
always
comes
the
day
after
our
board
meeting,
and
so
which
means
then
that
the
report
of
that
third
calculation
would
not
be
until
January.
So
that's
the
important
thing
that's
really
going
on
that
will
affect
our
financial
status.
Thank.
D
A
V
Madam
chairman,
over
the
past
two
months,
I've
been
given
their
approach
to
either
purchase
property
or
sell
some
of
our
property
to
the
various
folks
in
the
area
and
then,
according
to
the
school
board
policy,
in
order
to
employ
professional
services,
we're
asking
that
now
some
of
these
may
have
come
to
you
before
and
if,
in
fact,
you've
already
said
no
no
way.
That's
that's
fine.
I've
got
I'm
not
married
to
any
of
these
properties.
So
I'm,
you
know
I'm
open.
V
R
V
Went
to
the
Clay
County
property
appraisal
website,
I
got
it.
Thank
you
and
got
the
pictures
for
you.
The
first
one
is
Rodrigo
Road,
which
is
across
from
the
maintenance
department
parking
lot
earlier.
This
month,
the
city
of
Green
Cove
Springs
passed
a
resolution
offering
the
school
board.
Basically
the
first
right
of
refusal
to
purchase
this
property
in
this.
This
property
has
been
ping-pong
back
and
forth
for
the
past
six
or
eight
years,
and
it
looks
like
it's
sort
of
been
a
property
appraiser's
battle.
No
two
appraisals
are
the
same,
no
two
quantities.
V
V
Building
right
there,
where
the
the
brown
roof
is
our
small
engine
mechanic
and
pest
control,
they're
extremely
crowded
in
there
we
could
move
those
over
they've
also
got
a
storage
building
behind
there
that
we
could
move
I,
give
them
more
room.
I
know.
Miss
Roth
is
looking
for
an
area
to
store
a
lot
of
her
ESC
equipment
that
she's
got
scattered
all
over
the
the
county.
We
may
be
able
to
consolidate
this
year's
for
them
as
well.
V
So
if
the
price
is
right,
it
could
it
could
be
of
use
to
us
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
be
hammered
out.
I
met
with
people
from
the
city
of
Green,
Cove,
Springs,
Public,
Works
Department.
We
toured
the
building.
It's
in
pretty
good
shape.
I'm
going
to
have
our
folks
evaluate
the
roof
on
it.
We've
got
to
look
at
easements
and
environmental
aspects
that
we
had
come
up
in
the
in
the
last
appraisal.
A
N
There's
no
way
to
here's
the
problem
that
I
have
the
way
that
it's
set
up
is
normally
they
would
have
been
entered
in
each
one
separately.
You
would
have
had
six
different
items
on
the
agenda.
There's
no
way
as
I
understand
the
computer
program
for
her
to
put
six
separate
votes
in.
So
what
I
would
suggest
to
you
is
that
you
try
to
get
a
consensus
ahead
of
time
and
then
someone
make
a
motion
that
says.
Basically,
we
approve
a
B
and
C
and
exclude
C
D
and
E.
A
A
J
Really,
my
only
question
for
the
end
is
I
noticed
in
the
issue
in
rationale
or
under
the
financial
impact.
You
don't
actually
have
any
kind
of
costs
in
terms
of
what
it's
going
to
cost
for
all
of
these.
Do
you
have
any
idea
on
the
in
you
don't
have
that
yet,
though,
do
you
in
terms
of
doing
the
surveys
and
the
I.
V
To
depend
on
the
size
of
the
field,
whether
it's
an
open
field,
whether
it's
full
of
trees,
and
they
have
to
slog
their
way
through
it,
but
generally
a
survey
is
cost
between
about
750
to
$1,000
or
$1,500.
In
environmental
study
is
generally
a
little
bit
more
between
a
thousand,
and
sixteen
hundred
dollars
in
an
appraisal
is
about
fifteen
hundred
to
two
thousand
dollars.
Okay,.
A
And
and
like
you
said,
it
could
vary
depending
on
what
it
is,
but
it
says
an
environmental
study
was
done
eleven
years
ago.
That
pointed
out
some
environmental
issues
with
the
property
old
transformer
with
PCBs,
as
well
as
other
concerns
and
I,
know.
I
think
when
I
talked
to
you
is
this
is
the
piece
that
has
a
septic
tank
right.
It's
not
hooked.
I
mean
this.
This
is
that's.
A
N
G
A
V
A
A
A
V
V
A
V
N
G
N
G
G
A
A
A
V
Is
the
the
second
one?
This
is
the
land
swap
at
Saratoga
Springs
right
now.
This
is
a
piece
of
property
are
which
is
elementary
school.
Are
that
we
do
own
they
desires.
The
developer
would
like
to
develop.
The
east
side
of
this
is
County
Road
315.
This
is
shed
Road
here.
He
would
like
to
start
developing
the
east
side
of
315
and
so
that
he
can
control
e
develop
that
he
would
like
to
swap
us
for
a
piece,
a
parcel
on
the
west
side
of
County
Road
315
same
size,
same
value.
Everything
again.
V
This
is
another
one
that
if
he
wants
to
do
the
swap
then
he's
going
to
pay
for
the
survey
in
the
environmental
to
prove
it's
clean,
as
well
as
the
appraisal,
if
required.
So
this
one
I,
don't
have
any
problems
with
it.
You
know
it's
basically
going
to
be
the
same
size,
piece
of
property
just
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
road.
A
You
know
I've
got
to
right
out
there
and
kind
of
maybe
get
you
mr.
Maryl
to
to
show
me
well
I.
Think
I
can
figure
out
from
this
map
because
it
does
say
show
where
shed
Road
is
figure
out
where
it
is
and
see
kind
of
how
far
down
it
is
because
ms
Graham
and
I
have
been
around
the
block
a
few
times
with
land,
swamps
and
trades,
and
this
is
gonna.
Take
some
talk,
okay,
but
he
would
pay
for
these
studies
would.
A
V
V
D
V
A
V
A
V
G
N
A
Q
V
A
V
Q
Q
V
These
two
rectangular
pieces
of
property
about
two
and
a
half
acres
each
approached
by
the
owner
to
to
buy
those
and
I
said.
Well,
don't
really
don't
really
think
so
he
said
well
how
about,
if
I
give
them
through
you
I
talked
to
the
school
that
it
really
doesn't
follow
within
our
plan,
or
you
know
what
we
can
do
that
system
principal
came
up
with,
maybe
our
T.
So
you
could
do
an
orienteering
type
of
thing
out
there
in
the
woods.
V
A
G
J
V
This
is
the
the
Lions
Club
at
Keystone.
It's
this
piece
of
property
right
here,
I
went
out
there
with
Larry
Swanson
and
toured
the
property.
It's
a
block.
Building
and
well
has
been
well
kept,
so
they
have
a
big
open
area,
kitchen
restrooms.
This
is
the
one
that
does
have
a
septic
tank.
That
we'd
have
to
take
a
look
at
it's
across
the
street
from
both
the
elementary
and
high
school.
So
it
would
be
ideal
for
some
kind
of
self-contained
program
that
either
es
E
or
pre-k
or
even
a
maintenance
substation
down
there.
V
D
Concern
with
this
property,
first
of
all,
let
me
just
tell
you:
the
Lions
Club
has
been
a
great
community
supporter
of
the
schools.
Unfortunately,
their
membership
is
way
down,
so
I'm
sure.
That's
why
they're
trying
to
sell?
In
fact,
as
recently
as
the
summer
in
the
city,
the
single
one
of
their
members
garnered
a
lot
of
donations
for
that
program,
so
they're
really
phenomenal
people.
D
My
concern
about
the
property
is
it
doesn't
touch
any
of
our
property
they're
streets
to
cross
and
even
if
it's
a
self-contained,
those
students
still
typically
will
go
to
the
resource
cafeteria,
so
they're
going
to
have
so
we're
asking
some
of
our
most
vulnerable
kids
to
cross
over
the
streets.
I
know
when
we
used
to
have
where
the
high
school
used
the
gym
across
the
street
before
the
new
high
school
gym
was
there.
D
That
was
a
concern
of
mine
as
I
watched
kids
cross
that
street
and
there
was
during
the
day
and
no
crossing
guards,
and
things
like
that,
so
I
do
have
some
concerns
about
that
particular
thing.
Now,
if
it's
used
for
like
a
substation
or
something
like
that,
but
as
far
as
a
classroom
and
I've
been
in
that
facility
multiple
times
and
the
kids
that
can
the
kitchen
is,
is
well
probably
people
antique
dealers
will
probably
love
to
have
the
stove
and
some
of
the
things
that
are
back
there,
because
it's
a
pretty
old
facility.
D
V
D
A
V
And
if
this
final
one
is
the
the
National
Pro
painting
or
Sawyer
gasps,
it's
right
across
the
street
from
us
greatest
maintenance
and
facilities
in
this
area
in
there
I,
don't
really
have
a
plan
used
for
it.
In
fact,
it's
just
my
rumor
that
they
want
to
sell
it.
So
I'm
not
going
to
do
anything
with
this
one.
Unless
somebody
comes
forward,
I
tried
to
call
the
contact
number
and
it
was
disconnected,
but
this
is
way
low
on
a
priority
list.
Since.
B
B
V
A
A
B
Q
J
V
J
K
G
K
B
J
A
B
B
B
Q
A
D
D
G
N
G
A
J
A
J
B
A
A
B
J
N
Know
your
motion,
then,
would
be
to
approve
a
paying
appraisal
as
a
survey
in
environmental
studies
of
all
five
properties,
with
the
proviso
that
we
be
allowed
to
negotiate
that
the
current
owners
pay
for
those
things
on
all
four
properties
and
the
fifth
one
being
the
Ridge
View
High
School.
We
would
pay
for.
A
T
Lizz
screen
you
have
my
my
address
for
the
record.
I
was
going
to
talk
about
bullying
tonight,
however,
some
misinformation
was
given
and
I
must
correct
it.
Just
to
clarify
the
Union
hat
is
on
tonight.
I
would
like
to
correct
something
that
was
stated
earlier
tonight
about
teacher
prep
time.
It
was
stated
earlier
and
again
I'm
paraphrasing,
because
I
was
a
little
upset
when
I
did
hear
it,
then
teachers
are
complaining
that
they
do
not
have
enough
prep
time
from
the
state.
Our
prep
time
is
a
contractual
right.
T
It
is
not
provided
to
teachers
by
the
state
of
Florida.
The
CCA
fought
over
many
years
to
get
language
to
increase
our
prep
and
planning
time
and
to
have
it
daily.
You
might
not
be
aware
of
this,
but
less
than
10
years
ago,
elementary
teachers
did
not
have
guaranteed
prep
time.
It
was
whenever
possible.
We
would
have
prep
time
whenever
possible.
Some
days
you
had
it
some
days
you
didn't
each
year.
Our
prep
time
is
under
attacked
when
we
are
at
the
table.
T
The
reason
why
teachers
are
complaining
that
they
do
not
have
enough
prep
time
is
because
the
additional
mandates
are
being
placed
to
us
by
the
state
in
the
district,
let's
name
some
cafeteria
duty.
Golf
cart,
parking
lot,
duty,
sweep
duty
conferences,
IEP
means
data,
means,
PLC's,
student
data
meetings,
student
data,
analysis,
student,
entering
MT,
SS
data,
entering
MTS,
systemic
analysis,
follow-up
activities
for
professional
development,
and
the
list
goes
on
and
on
contractually
I
received
30
minutes
each
day.
T
H
Yes,
ma'am
Keith
Nichols
in
my
address
is
still
on
the
card.
Today,
I
had
an
IEP
for
Alex
and
you
all
know
the
problems
that
we've
had
with
Alex
over
the
last
so
I
just
kind
of
want
to
give
you
all
an
update
and
an
idea
of
what
goes
on
in
the
household
of
a
special
needs.
Family
I
was
talking
to
mr.
Warburg
earlier
and
just
to
explain.
Alex
was
diagnosed
with
autism
when
he
was
about
six
years
old.
At
the
time
the
Diagnostics
manual
gave
12
levels
to
autism.
H
E
H
Anyway,
he
was
diagnosed
when
he
was
six
years
old
from
that
time,
he's
been
in
the
Clay
County
School
District,
starting
out
a
lighthouse
working
in
a
Tynes
going
over
to
thunderbolt
for
a
while
now
he's
in
Ridge
View,
he
went
through
Lake
Lakeside,
Elementary,
Army,
lakeside,
junior
high
and
now
he's
in
Ridge
View.
During
that
whole
time,
one
of
the
things
that
we
found
out
is
parents
of
the
special-needs
child
is
one
of
the
problems
that
you
have.
H
Is
that
there's
programs
that
you
don't
know
about,
and
nobody
can
really
tell
you
you
kind
of,
have
to
you're
on
your
own?
You
have
to
find
them
and
we
came
across
some
of
them
and
found
out
that
you
know
we
made
too
much
money
to
get
assistance
for
the
programs,
but
didn't
make
enough
money
to
pay
for
them
out
right.
So
you
kind
of
had
a
situation
where
you
know
you
either
had
to
sacrifice
the
rest
of
your
family
or
let
your
special-needs
child
suffer
and
I
don't
want
to
use.
H
The
word
suffer
too
hard
on
that
because
he
was
in
Clay
County
and
we
do
have
one
of
the
best
special
needs
programs
in
the
state
just
to
let
you
know
where
I'm
going
with
this
today
when
we
had
our
I
AP
and
his
teacher
and
I'm
going
to
call
her
out
by
name
because
she
is
really
just
the
greatest
thing
in
the
world.
Her
name
is
Christina.
Smith,
Miss
Smith
is
going
for
a
master's
degree
and
one
of
the
things
that
she
did
to
go
for
her
master's
degree.
H
Was
she
developed
a
website
that
has
a
list
of
all
these
different
prayer
and
has
a
lot
of
resources
for
parents.
I
would
like
for
somebody
to
contact
Miss,
Smith
I
was
going
to
bring
it
tonight,
but
I
forgot
to
get
it
up,
contact
Miss,
Smith
and
get
that
website
and
get
that
put
onto
our
website
under
the
district
website,
because
it
is
a
fantastic
resource
and
Miss
Smith
is
actually
she's
more
like
family
and
she
as
a
teacher
during
the
IEP.
H
A
F
A
E
Would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
mention
that
it
is
National
School
Lunch
week
I
had
a
great
lunch
with
a
fifth
grade
class
that
copper
gating
today
I
had
some
nachos,
it's
very
good,
miss
Rita
holding
out
there
has
got
it
going
on
I,
attended
just
to
kind
of
give
a
shout
out
to
our
school
food
service
people
in
general.
It
is
one
of
the
most
solvent
programs,
probably
in
the
state,
miss
Suzie
Glover
under
dr.
Copeland's
direction.
E
A
N
A
Q
It
is
such
a
real
blessing
to
work
with
the
kids,
even
if
you're,
if
you're
a
teacher,
you're
a
para,
you
know
cafeteria
worker
bus
driver,
whatever
it
is
in
the
support
world.
You
know
they
always
do
a
fabulous
job
and
they
try
very
hard
and
they
give
you
know.
Usually
a
hundred
and
ten
percent,
and
so
I
know
that
you
had
a
really.
G
J
Just
a
couple
things
first
of
all,
I
would
just
like
to
comment
to
the
Vice
I
believe
the
vice
president
of
Sesa.
With
regards
to
that
challenge,
I
do
regret
that
I
was
not
able
to
do
that.
It
wasn't
just
because
of
my
work
schedule.
I
do
have
have
had
some
other
personal
challenges
going
on
the
past
several
weeks
that
I've
been
primarily
dealing
with
so
I
was
not
able
to
do
that.
I
still
intend
to
do
that
and
I
hope
that
the
invitation
is
open,
so
honor.
J
Then
the
other
thing
that
I
would
just
like
to
say
to
my
fellow
board
members
I
want
to
thank
mrs.
Graham
and
thank
mrs.
Bullock
for
their
service
on
the
board
and
I
know
that
this
is
there
both
of
their
last
meetings,
and
you
know,
as
a
new
school
board.
Member
I
can't
even
can't
even
put
into
words
the
service
and
of
the
years
that
Miss
Graham
has
put
on
this
board
and
I
know
she's,
going
to
surely
be
missed
and
I
just
want
to
personally.
J
B
B
You
know
I've
gotten
to
know
you
over
the
years
and
probably
first
met
you
back
in
two
thousand
four
or
five
when
I
started
coming
to
meetings-
and
you
know
each
of
us
brings
something
different
and
you've
brought
the
administrator
and
the
teacher
experience
and
that's
just
been
great
and
I
wish
you
all
the
best
I
know
you're
going
to
enjoy
retirement
and
your
grandkids
and
have
a
wonderful
time.
Mrs.
Bullock,
like
I,
said
you
know,
each
of
us
brings
something
different,
mrs.
Graham,
the
administrator
mrs.
Studdard
brings
you
know.
B
B
I,
you
know
the
parent
volunteer.
You
know
advocate
for
children
with
all
the
board's
that
I
sit
on,
but
mrs.
Bullock.
You
definitely
were
a
tremendous
help.
These
last
two
years,
you
you
brought
experience
as
a
volunteer
as
a
parent
as
a
teacher
and
an
administrator
and
and
I'm
just
so
impressed
with
how
quickly
you
got
up
to
speed
going
and
getting
your
training
always
prepared,
always
to
lend
that
extra
hand.
I
know.
You
know
we
were
recognized
tonight
for
doing
our
challenge
and
that's
just
one
example
of
everything
that
mrs.
B
Bullock
has
not
missed
a
thing.
In
the
last
two
years
she
has
attended
everything
she's
been
invited
to
I'm,
looking
at
Muscovy
old
I'm
thinking,
the
Robotics
Competition
she's
been
to
every
Tropicana
speech,
competition,
every
Spelling,
Bee,
Awards,
she's,
judged
Tropicana
speech,
science,
fair
battle
of
the
books
she
was
reading
in
Miss,
Curtin,
miss
cranes
class.
This
week
you
name
it
she
does
it
and
I
still
would
like
to
know
how
many
miles
you
put
on
your
car.
B
A
D
I
first
I
want
to
thank
Liz
cranes
class.
We
had
a
great
time.
Those
kindergarteners
were
just
just
they're
phenomenal
I
tell
you
they're,
you
know
I
wish
I
could
get
a
group
of
people
to
behave
like
they
did,
but
you
did
a
great
job
and-
and
we
had
a
great
time
in
class
I
did
get
to
go
tour
the
culinary
arts
class
and
at
Keystone
it's
phenomenal
and
on
Thursday,
if
you're
hungry
they
have
Keystone
cafe
is
open
five
dollars,
whatever
the
menu
is
and
I
encourage
you
to
go.
D
A
You
know
I've
been
thinking
about
this
for
the
last
few
days.
I
was
thinking
about,
I
mean
talk
about
miss
Graham.
First
and
I
got
tell
y'all
this
that
you'll
enjoy
this
I
said
Lisa.
Why
do
you
have
on
dark
glasses
tonight
and
she
said
well,
my
future
is
so
rosy
that
I
have
to
wear
dark,
glasses,
so
bright.
Her
future
is
so
bright
that
she
is
going
to
have
to
wear
dark
glasses.
A
Truth
of
the
matter
is
the
eye
doctor
says:
wear
those
tonight,
but
Lisa
was
elected
to
the
school
board
in
1990
two
years
before
I
arrived
and
she
and
Carol
vallencourt
served
their
first
two
years
under
with
superintendent
and
Wiggins,
then
we
had
Phyllis
Mae
and
then
we
had
David
Owens.
Then
we
had
been
wertham
and
now
charlie
Van
Zandt.
So
you've
worked
with
five
different
superintendents
and
worked
closely
with
each
of
them.
A
A
It
we've
learned
to
throw
dirt
in
all
the
weird
places
when
we'd
go
out
to
the
property
and
would
see
and
then
to
see
it
being
built
and
and
opened
up.
I
remember
when
we
had
the
ceremony
for
mr.
teens,
we
named
the
school
for
him
and
he
was.
He
was
very
seen
fragile
at
that
point,
but
he
lived
to
see
the
opening
of
that
school
and
they
buried
the
capsule
that
day
time
to
capsule,
but
I
mean
I
was
just
thinking
back
over
the
years
of
all
the
crazy
stuff.
A
You
know
the
different
things
that
have
happened
and
remember
the
night
we
were
meeting
and
we
met
in
the
BCC
room
and
it
was
when
the
I
believe
it
was
when
we
were
approving
primetime
for
the
YMCA
and
we
had
dozens
of
speakers
and
I.
Remember
one
speaker
came
to
us
and
he
had
on
the
Indian
headdress.
A
They
were,
it
was
just
the
pits,
but
but
we've
got
a
lot
of
memories
and
I
know
miss
vallencourt,
sometimes
will
say:
I
remember
when
you
know
you
and
Lisa
and
I
did
this
or
that
or
the
other
and
and
it
was
fun
and
and
I'm
gonna
always
treasure
those
memories
and
your
experience
is
going
to
be
missed
here.
You've
got
24
years
of
knowledge
of
the
school
system
in
your
head
and
it
will
be
missed,
miss
Graham
and
the
book.
Do
you
have
been
a
good
board
member
and
miss
Bullock?
Now
is
your
turn.
A
This
is
this.
Is
your
life
I
did
not
know
mrs.
Bullock
until
she
got
elected
to
the
school
board,
I
mean
I
knew
her
by
sight,
but
I
don't
think
we
ever
even
had
a
conversation,
and
so
when
she
was
elected
and
we
started,
you
know
going
to
the
school
board,
conferences
and
master
board
and
I
found
out
real
quick.
A
A
A
But
you
know
it's
like
miss.
Carrick
has
said
whether
it's
reading
to
the
kids
or
sitting
on
the
insurance
committee
or
or
whatever
she
has
been
there
and
never
complained
when
I
would
ask
her
to
do
something
she
do
really
didn't
want
to
do
she
just
do
it,
I
mean
she's
just
that
kind
of
person,
I
have
never
known
a
more
giving
devoted
big-hearted
person
and
I
am
proud
to
be
your
friend,
miss
Bullock,
we're
gonna,
miss
you,
okay,
if
there's
no
other
business
to
come
before
the
board.
The
meeting
is
adjourned.