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From YouTube: March 29, 2016 Special Board Meeting #2
Description
See the agenda here: http://agenda.oneclay.net/publishing/ap-agendas.html
A
B
Frame
with
me,
if
you
will
Heavenly
Father
Lord,
we
thank
you
for
this
day
this
beautiful
day.
We
thank
you
for
the
people
that
work
here
in
this
school
system.
We
thank
you
that
so
many
of
them
care
enough
to
come
out
and
watch
the
board
deliberate
on
what
they
have
to
do.
Lord
I
ask
that
you
bless
the
folks
that
are
in
the
schools
each
day
that
students
that
are
there
to
learn
today.
B
Lord
I'm,
as
we
approach
spring
break
next
week,
has
to
help
everybody
to
have
a
good
rest
Lord
to
rejuvenate
and
keep
our
students
safe
as
they're
out
and
about
doing
just
a
lot
of
fun
activities
Lord.
We
thank
you
for
those
around
the
world
today
that
I'm
understanding
watch
keeping
our
nation
free
so
that
we
can
meet
in
public
in
freedom
Lord
and
discuss
the
direction
that
we
need
to
go
here
for
our
school
district.
Lord
I
pray
a
special
blessing
on
these
five.
Ladies
to
my
left
this
morning,
our
school
board
members
Lord.
B
A
Okay,
first
of
all
like
to
welcome
each
of
you,
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
out
to
attend
today's
meeting.
This
meeting
is
the
board's
opportunity
to
collaborate
openly
and
make
decisions
in
this
quasi
judicial
hearing.
30
minutes
of
public
comment
will
be
heard
by
the
school
board
prior
to
the
beginning
of
the
impasse
hearing,
the
board
will
only
be
taking
public
comments
for
30
minutes
which
shall
be
strictly
enforced
during
this
time.
C
C
A
C
Right
in
light
of
that
point
of
order
again
now
that
I
see
that
we
are
moving
forward
with
this
meeting
in
objection
to
myself
and
mrs.
Studdard
I,
ask
that
we,
let
me
say,
I,
wrote
this
down
so
I
want
to
make
sure
I.
Have
it
word-for-word,
revoke
any
and
all
constraints
on
public
speaking
and
allow
as
many
people
that
want
to
speak
the
opportunity
to
be
heard.
I
move
that
we.
C
C
Since
I
made
that
motion-
and
we
do
have
a
second
now-
it's
a
discussion
item
and
I
I
just
want
to
go
on
record
and
say
that
you
know
I'll
sit
here
all
day.
If
everybody
in
this
room
wants
to
speak
and
miss
McKenna
and
I
know,
I
heard
you
and
miss
miss
Graham
years
ago,
when
we
were
talking
about
policy
and
removing
the
ten
minute
speakers
saying.
C
Public
has
the
opportunity
to
speak
and
I
will
sit
her
all
day,
long
and
I
think
everybody
in
this
room
should
feel
the
same
way.
We
should
not
be
controlling
it
to
thirty
minutes,
so
I
feel
really
strongly
about
that
and
I'd
like
to
hear
from
the
rest
of
my
board
members
how
they
feel
about
that.
Because
really
we
didn't
discuss
this
wasn't
discussed.
C
A
I'll
begin
by
making
my
comment
about
that.
First
of
all,
let
me
just
say
that
this
is
not
a
regular
school
board
meeting.
This
is
a
quasi-judicial
hearing,
and
the
difference
is
that
the
difference
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing
is
that
each
side
has
due
process
and
being
able
to
present
their
case
now
in
quasi
judicial
hearings.
A
Public
comment
is
not
required
in
the
interest
of
fairness,
because
each
side
is
being
given
30
minutes
in
the
interest
of
fairness,
I
decided
that
we
would
allow
the
same
30
minutes
to
the
public,
and
so
I
am
NOT
going
to
require
any
of
my
other
board
members
to
comment
on
this.
They
certainly
can
if
they
will
but
I'm
not
going
to
require
it.
A
The
the
agenda
was
set
by
me
because
it
is
my
responsibility
as
the
chairman
to
set
this
agenda,
and
so
I
said
it
and
in
terms
of
the
timing
of
it
it
is
not
uncommon
for
these
types
of
hearings
to
be
heard.
During
daytime
hours
we
considered
everybody's
agenda,
we've
considered
everybody's
calendar
and
primarily
we
considered
everybody
in
the
parties.
Excuse
me:
we
considered
all
parties
calendars,
so
primarily
the
two
attorneys.
A
A
F
A
A
A
G
Miss
stutters
point:
this
is
an
intimidation
factor
to
have
mr.
Van
Zandt
sitting
up
here.
I
have
several
people
who
want
to
speak
many
of
those
people
annual
contract.
They
do
not
want
to
look
at
this
superintendent,
who
is
also
not
supposed
to
be
part
of
this
proceeding
and
sitting
up
here.
The
second
thing
I
need
to
ask
is
that
I
would
like
for
you
to
tell
me,
somewhere
in
this
447
point
403,
where
it
says
that
you
are
a
quasi-judicial
body,
you're,
not
its
legislative,
so
just
correct.
Thank
you.
H
In
a
recent
superintendent's
email
Friday,
the
superintendent's
stated
quote
during
the
2013-14
school
year,
I
supported
the
governor
and
legislature
as
they
appropriated
over
six
million
dollars.
It
was
placed
in
the
district's
instructional
salary
schedule
well,
actually
he's
never
supported
the
teachers
and
during
the
previous
board
meetings,
the
superintendent
and
Miss
McKinnon
have
spoken
against
this
funding
ever
going
to
teachers
incomes.
It
was
never
placed
in
the
salary
schedule
and
was
used
as
a
one-time
appropriation
for
teachers
just
before
the
elections.
H
This
actions
are
reminiscent
of
Monty
Python's
movie
in
search
for
the
Holy
Grail,
but
I
love
my
subjects.
Teachers
been
their
catapult
across
the
field
of
politics
and
shot
like
clay
pigeons.
Now
we
are
attending
a
public
hearing
which
will
cost
the
Clay
County
Schools
over
ten
thousand
dollars,
which
lies
solely
in
the
hands
of
another,
politically
driven
decision
by
the
superintendent
and
a
chairperson,
Misbah
Kenyon
continues
to
struggle
with
Robert's
Rules
of
Order
Florida
Statutes
in
the
school
school
board
policy.
It
is
through
the
actions
of
mr.
H
H
The
last
quasi-judicial
here
in
this
room,
which
was
also
represented
by
the
same
labor
attorney
here
today.
In
that
case,
one
first
unbiased
judge,
found
that
Clay
County
had
witnessed
with
conflict
was
had
witnesses
with
conflict
in
testimony
information
provided
by
staff
and
lawyers.
Inaccurate,
incomplete
and
I
credible.
A
second
unbiased
judge
after
that
hearing
had
similar
findings
cost
for
the
Clay
County
Schools,
nearly
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
could
have
gone
for
the
students.
Please
consider
the
opinion
presented
to
you
by
the
same
labor
attorney
again
hired
by
mr.
Van.
H
Zant
is
not
biased
and
as
an
opinion
offered
for
the
sole
purpose
of
attempting
to
win
the
point
of
view
of
the
superintendent,
which
is
the
lawyers
job
in
his
mind,
I
assume
hope
the
board
members
can
realize
the
levity
of
your
decisions
today.
Please
do
not
ignore
the
recommendations
of
another
unbiased
judge
and
yet
another
huge
expense
to
the
Clay
County
Schools.
H
My
father
was
a
u.s.
Marine
Corps
Master
Sergeant
serving
two
years
and
art
in
two
wars.
He
was
also
a
master
Horseman
and
horse
trainer.
He
said
you
can
mistreat
and
even
beat
a
horse
to
submission,
but
sooner
or
later
you
will
get
kicked.
You,
sir
and
madam,
have
just
been
kicked
with
both
loves
because
of
your
own
actions
and
disrespect
for
the
people
that
work
in
this
school
system.
I
I
No
one,
except
that
teacher
can
cite
the
rationale
for
his
leaving.
I
have
a
letter
from
that
teacher.
Dave
fields,
I'd
like
to
read
sunlight,
is
said
to
be
the
best
of
distant
veterans,
Supreme
Court
justice,
Louis
Brandeis.
This
famous
quote,
came
more
than
100
years
ago,
as
the
United
States
was
in
the
middle
of
trying
to
restore
sunlight
and
transparency
to
the
corrupt
government
of
the
Gilded
Age.
I
I
Once
elected
the
superintendent
and
those
support
him
continue
to
fight
to
keep
Clay
County
teachers,
parents
and
voters
in
the
dark.
This
is
important
to
keep
in
mind
because
the
same
pattern
has
been
and
is
continuing
to
be
applied
to
the
teachers
and
their
contract
in
Clay
County.
In
the
last
eight
years,
student
performance
and
achievement
has
continually
improved
in
the
district,
some
like
to
claim
that
public
education
should
be
more
handled
like
private,
the
private
sector,
where
those
responsible
for
the
increased
production
would
be
rewarded
financially.
I
I
Now
the
district
is
claiming
financial
hardship
and
making
those
responsible
for
the
achievement
and
Clay
balance
the
budget
on
their
paychecks.
Even
though
an
appointed,
impartial
arbitrator
agreed
that
the
very
small
pay
increases
are
reasonable.
I
left,
Clay
County
because
as
teachers,
my
wife
and
I
felt
another
County
did
a
better
job
of
taking
care
of
its
teachers.
In
my
eighth
year
of
teaching,
I
finally
will
see
my
first
raise
and
our
health
care
costs
will
be
dramatically
lower
and
after
three
years
of
successful
evaluations,
I
will
have
contract
protections.
I
That
I
could
have
only
dreamed
of
in
clay
again
an
opportunity
to
keep
clay,
counties,
working
voters
and
teachers
in
the
dark
about
what
is
going
on.
They
have
scheduled
this
meeting
in
the
middle
of
a
work
day.
This
is
consistent
with
their
way
of
keeping
all
stakeholders
in
the
dark
and
their
handling
of
the
teacher
contracts
and
other
issues
within
the
district.
The
school
board
and
leadership
has
demonstrated
the
same
values
of
the
gilded
age
bosses
of
a
hundred
years
ago.
I
J
J
Today,
a
decision
will
be
made
and
a
message
will
be
sent
out
to
the
voters.
The
question
that
each
of
you
must
now
ask
is
that
what
is
it
that
you
want
to
tell
the
voters
of
Clay
County
all
eyes
are
now
on
each
of
you
we're
waiting
to
hear
what
your
actions
will
tell
us.
Your
decisions
today
will
tell
the
voters
one
of
two
things:
either
you
stand
with
the
teachers
of
Clay
County
or
you
have
no
regard
or
respect
for
us
as
professionals.
J
J
It
will
tell
this
community
and
its
voters
that
you
do
not
have
value
the
hard
work
that
we
have
done
as
educators
to
restore
Clay
to
an
A
by
continuing
to
turn
a
blind
eye
to
the
teachers.
Your
in
fact,
and
also
neglecting
the
children
in
our
classrooms,
it
is
impossible
to
put
our
students
first
if
teachers
are
repeatedly
put
last.
J
However,
however,
you
have
the
opportunity
to
also
tell
the
voters
of
clay
that
you
are
committed
to
standing
with
your
teachers
and
that
their
pleas
have
not
fallen
on
deaf
ears.
If
you
choose
to
respect
the
magistrates
ruling,
you
will
show
the
voters
that
you
recognize
the
needs
of
your
employees.
You
will
tell
the
community
you
respect
the
work
that
we
have
done
thus
far
with
the
children
in
our
classrooms
and
are
committed
to
continuing
that
work.
You
will
also
show
the
voters
that
you
value
serving
our
students
more
than
your
own
personal
political
agendas.
J
J
It
is
the
dedication
of
the
very
teachers
that
are
assembled
here
and
those
that
are
diligently
working
in
their
classrooms
at
this
very
moment
that
every
stored,
Clay
County
to
an
a
so
today
boils
down
to
one
simple
question:
what
do
you
want
to
tell
the
voters
of
this
community?
We
are
listening,
we
are
watching
and
come
August
be
rest
assured.
We
will
be
voting.
Thank.
K
My
name
is
Diane
Powers.
My
address
is
on
file.
Let
me
begin
by
saying
that
I
have
always
been
proud
of
our
school
district.
I've
been
an
employee
for
20
years.
I
have
never
spoken
before
both
my
daughter's
attended
clay
schools
for
their
entire
k-12
education,
resulting
in
IB
program
diplomas,
bright
future
scholarships
and
an
engineering
degree
from
UF
I'm
happy
with
Clay
County.
That
was
some
years
ago,
I
became
a
teacher
even
after
seeing
that
the
miracles
worked
by
clay
teachers
every
day,
we're
meeting
ever-increasing
mandates
with
little
or
no
support.
K
I
chose
to
work
with,
arguably
the
most
challenging
students,
those
with
emotional
and
behavioral
disabilities.
I
chose
to
direct
interns
and
I
chose
to
mentor
master's
degree
candidates
all
because
I
believed
that
this
district
would
support
its
own
mission
statement
to
promote
quote
the
recruitment,
hiring
and
retention
of
a
diversified
and
highly
qualified
instructional
staff,
whose
mission
is
to
provide
students
with
learning
opportunities
that
are
rigorous,
relevant
and
transcend
beyond
the
boundaries
of
the
classroom.
Unquote,
however,
they're
short-sighted
decisions
being
made
by
this
district
do
not
reflect
this
mission.
K
In
fact,
in
the
same
year
that
Saint
Johns
County
is
implementing
a
tax
to
support
schools.
Clay
has
decided
to
inexplicably
cut
property
taxes
while
simultaneously
crying
poverty
over
it's
less
than
3%
reserves.
Our
district
performs
comparably
to
st.
John's
and
yet
we're
losing
new
hires
to
st.
John's
every
day,
due
to
the
more
equitable
compensation
received
for
the
same
training,
education,
extra
duties
and
mountainous
paperwork
that
are
required
by
Clay.
So
yet
again,
the
district
denies
teachers
their
equitable
compensation
and
recognition
for
their
everyday
sacrifices,
above
and
beyond
any
interpretation
of
job
requirements.
K
In
addition,
by
allowing
new
hires
to
leapfrog
existing
hard-working
loyal
employees,
you
send
the
wrong
message:
50%
of
new
teachers
leave
the
profession
in
less
than
five
years,
and
yet
you
wish
to
send
the
message
to
these
new
hires
that,
once
you
are
indeed
an
employee,
you
no
longer
matter
and
make
no
mistake
we
are
discussing,
needs
not
wants
these,
this
compensation,
these
are
needs.
The
vast
majority
of
clay
teachers
are
the
sole
support
of
their
families,
and
many
of
them
are
taking
second
or
even
third
jobs.
This
is
a
disgrace.
L
My
name
is
viktoria
Kidwell
and
my
address
is
on
file.
The
Miss
special
magistrate
has
heard
both
sides
and
made
an
impartial
recommendation
for
compromise.
This
is
a
compromise
that
balances
the
needs
of
all
parties
and
seeks
a
way
forward
by
showing
her
some
respect
to
teachers
and
deference
to
the
financial
difficulties
that
Clay
County
has
recently
overcome.
Mr.
Van
Zant
has
responded
by
rejecting
every
recommendation
of
the
special
magistrate.
There's
only
one
way
we
can
view
such
a
response.
L
What
job
security
is
in
the
interest
and
welfare
of
the
public
of
the
citizens
and
the
families
who
utilize
the
school
system
and
of
the
current
teachers,
who
are
also
part
of
the
public
citizenry
of
Clay
County?
On
in-service
training
points?
It
is
common
knowledge
that
in
other
professions,
such
as
medicine,
there
is
not
a
denial
of
a
professional
credit
for
relevant
training,
because
the
training
is
not
utilized
following
the
professional
development
class.
L
The
unions
compromise
proposal
to
receive
partial
credit
for
relevant
training,
regardless
of
immediate
implementation,
is
reasonable
and
respects
teachers,
professional
opinions
on
insurance,
the
increased
contribution
of
employees
for
health
insurance
results
in
a
net
loss
to
salaries.
The
district
should
be
more
proactive
in
seeking
cost
containment
solutions
for
health
insurance,
including
provision
of
a
no-cost
plan
on
leapfrogging
the
benefit
of
giving
the
existing
teachers
an
incentive
to
remain
in
the
community
rather
than
favoring.
New
teachers
should
be
apparent
on
supplements.
L
He
said
the
use
of
$35,000
for
calculating
supplements
was
a
temporary
reprieve
granted
to
the
district
in
2014-15,
and
the
magistrate
is
confident
that
the
union
will
be
able
to
negotiate
every
turn
to
that.
$38,000
figure,
as
soon
as
the
financial
condition
allows,
which
is
now
on
salary
increases
if
it
were
not
for
the
financial
situation.
Adjust
settlement
would
favor
some
increase
to
these
teachers.
L
The
magistrate
is
of
the
opinion
that
the
thousand-dollar
increase
would
be
justified
and
reasonable
to
bring
teachers
close
to
the
state
average
the
mou
to
reopen
negotiations
if
the
fund
balance
is
at
or
above
3%
after
the
fourth
calculation
is
helpful.
In
this
regard,
my
words
as
I
tell
my
students.
Your
actions
speak
louder
than
your
words.
It's
what
you
do
in
the
world
that
counts
much
more
than
what
you
profess.
L
Well,
this
school
board.
Well,
this
school
board
take
a
step
toward
compromise
that
begins
to
repair
the
damaged
morale
of
clay
teachers.
Will
you
vote
to
honor
the
recommendations
of
the
special
magistrate
and
finally
give
the
teachers
of
clay
a
reason
to
believe
that
the
toxic
disregard
of
this
county
towards
its
employees
might
finally
end.
M
Julie
Schaaf
address
on
file
good
morning,
often
when
coming
to
an
agreement,
one
party
takes
a
hard
stance
or
a
non
negotiating
position.
It's
done
all
over
the
world
every
single
day.
It's
a
great
strategy
unless
you
are
in
a
long-term,
committed
relationship.
Yes,
my
friends,
we
are
in
a
long-term
relationship.
This
relationship
will
outlast
every
single
one
of
us.
M
One
of
our
mutual
goals
between
the
Clay
County
School
Board
and
the
Clay
County
Education
Association
is
to
provide
the
excellent
teachers
of
Clay
County
and
a
County
with
the
financial
support
that
is
available
from
the
state
when
agreements
cannot
be
reached.
Having
an
outside
mediator
or
special
magistrate
to
look
at
things
with
an
unbiased
opinion
is
valuable
to
both
parties.
Their
job
is
to
find
the
point
of
differences
between
the
parties
that
can
be
resolved
without
harming
either
party.
Their
job
is
to
find
things
that
can
be
accomplished.
M
The
special
magistrate
stated
and
recommended
the
benefit
of
giving
the
existing
teachers
and
instead
of
to
remain
in
the
community
rather
than
favoring,
the
new
teachers
should
be
a
parent.
Maybe
you
didn't
realize
that
your
stance
was
unreasonable.
Maybe
you
didn't
recognize
the
distinct
lack
of
respect
that
your
position
implies.
Having
a
fresh
set
of
eyes
on
the
matter
should
certainly
be
meaningful
school
board.
Members
I
ask
you
to
step
you
out
of
your
current
mindset.
I
urge
you
to
reconsider
your
hard
bargaining
position.
M
I
urge
you
to
affirm
refraining
that
go-to
tactic
of
hard
stance.
It
damages
our
long-term
relationship.
It's
wasteful
and
non-productive
I
urge
you
to
consider
the
current
teachers
who
keep
the
teachers
that
made
Clay
County
and
a
County
I
urge
you
to
accept
the
special
magistrates
impasse
recommendations
as
acceptable
because
they
can
be
accomplished.
Thank
you.
N
Melissa
Kaplan
and
my
address
is
on
file.
I
would
appreciate
it
if
you,
as
our
elected
officials,
would
demonstrate
your
support
of
your
teachers
by
accepting
all
of
the
special
magistrate
recommendations.
Just
as
CCA
has
let
your
actions
in
words
today
reflect
your
priorities,
just
like
our
actions
in
words
reflect
our
priorities
in
our
classrooms.
Each
and
every
single
day
you
chairwoman
asked
for
respect
and
professionalism
in
your
opening
statement,
and
that
is
exactly
what
we
are
asking
from
you.
The
board.
N
N
Not
the
constant
obstacles
thrown
at
us
by
this
board,
but
we
the
teachers
of
Clay
County
and
the
support
personnel
of
Clay
County,
not
you,
but
us
made
this
district
and
a
district
again.
We
did
that
not
you!
You
chairwoman,
said
you
considered
everyone's
schedule
when
making
this
chair.
This
meeting
I
will
beg
to
differ
with
you
ma'am.
You
did
not
consider
my
schedule.
You
did
not
consider
the
schedule
of
anyone
sitting
back
here.
N
N
O
Good
morning
my
name
is
dunya
jean-baptiste,
and
you
have
my
information
on
file
and
all
the
years
that
I've
taught
I
have
never
had
to
put
myself
in
a
position
such
as
this.
Anyone
look
at
my
record
would
know
that
I
am
NOT
one
to
not
be
at
work
unless
there
is
an
issue
with
my
children
or
my
health.
So
the
reason
why
I
am
here
is
because,
obviously
this
is
an
issue
that
is
of
the
utmost
importance
to
myself.
I
am
an
immigrant.
O
My
parents
came
here
from
another
country,
I
had
to
learn
English
one
of
the
things
that
my
parents
taught
me
was
you
make
sure
you
get
your
education,
no
matter
where
you
are
you
get
your
education.
No
one
can
take
that
away
from
you.
They
taught
me
that
a
teacher
is
to
be
held
at
the
utmost
respect
because
of
what
is
given
to
them.
They
are
responsible.
O
They
are
responsible
to
take
what
is
dark
and
help
make
it
light.
They
are
responsible
to
take
one
thing
from
what
it
isn't
transform
into
something
else.
I
teach
intensive
reading
I
have
normally
had
students
who,
for
whatever
reason,
have
been
made
to
feel
that
they
could
not,
and
they
have
during
the
course
of
our
relationship,
figured
out
that
yes,
I
can
and
it
takes
hard
work.
My
parents
instilled
in
me
the
importance
of
hard
work.
O
They've
told
me
that
if
you
want
anything
in
life,
anything
that
is
worth
fighting
for,
you
have
to
be
willing
to
work
hard
for
it,
and
the
only
thing
I
can
say
is
I
work,
hard,
I
am
NOT,
a
lazy
person
and
I
have
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
people
that
are
like-minded.
Like
me,
you
want
something
done.
You
need
to
be
willing
to
get
your
hands
dirty
and
I.
Don't
have
a
problem
with
that.
O
My
issue
right
now,
which
is
why
I
am
before
you
is
I,
have
taught
at
Charles
E
Bennett
helped
Charles
Bennett
to
become
in
a
school.
I
am
NOT
patting
myself
on
the
back.
It's
reality
you
can
find
it
in
a
newspaper.
I
have
taught
at
doctors,
Inlet
and
now
I
am
oak
leaf,
High,
School
and
I
wonder
why
it
is
that
I
work
hard
and
I'm,
not
asking
for
anything
extraordinary
I'm
asking
for
what
I've
earned
I
work
and
therefore
I.
O
Work
and
therefore
I
should
get
what
I
am
told
that
is
due.
We
went
from
steps
to
levels
I,
don't
understand
why
I
continued
to
show
up
to
work,
I
do
what
I'm
supposed
to
do
and
I
go
beyond
just
like
several
other
teachers.
Do,
then
why
is
it
that
I
can't
get
what
I'm
supposed
to
get
I'm
a
straightforward
to
the
point
kind
of
person,
I
mean
what
I
say:
I
say
what
I
mean.
O
You
have
told
me
that
if
I
do
what
I'm
supposed
to
do
according
to
this
document,
that
several
people
with
education
have
created
that
this
is
what
would
happen
so
I
just
want
to
understand.
Why
do
I
show
up?
Why
do
I
follow
the
rules?
Why
do
I
work
with
my
students
and
why
is
it
that
I'm
not
getting
what
you
said?
Action
speaks
louder
than
words
and
I
believe
that
and
I
just
want
your
actions
today
to
reflect
exactly
what
you
have
been
putting
forth
and
whatever
medium
you
have
chosen.
O
But
I
know
that
since
I
have
been
in
Clay,
County
I
have
heard
words,
but
I
have
not
seen
the
actions
to
follow
it.
The
students
that
I
teach
I
tell
them
work
hard.
I
will
be
with
you
along
the
way
we
can
do
this
together,
but
understand
I
cannot
do
more
than
you
can
do.
I
cannot
want
this
more
than
you
want
it.
What
do
you
want
for
us
because
we
show
up?
You
came
up
with
some
documents
that
told
us
for
every
year
you
work
you
will
get
this.
O
You
tell
us
how
important
we
are.
You
tell
us
that
you
are
so
pleased
to
be
working
in
a
County
in
which
the
teachers
have
high
standards.
I
have
high
standards
for
myself,
so
therefore,
I
can
have
them,
for
my
students
can
I,
see
it
paying
off
and
again
I'm,
not
asking
for
anything
above
and
beyond
I'm.
Just
asking
for
exactly
what
you
said.
You
would
do,
because
you
don't
show
up
to
to
check
up
on
me.
O
You
trust
that
I
show
up
and
I
am
a
person
of
my
word
and
that
I
do
what
I
say.
I
am
going
to
do
that,
I
fulfill
the
commitments
and
obligations
that
I
have
made
well,
please
understand:
I,
expect
the
same
from
you
and
I'm,
a
realist
and
I
believe
a
lot
of
the
times.
People
come
with
their
minds,
made
up
I'm
asking
you
to
hear
me
to
hear
us
and
the
way
I
look
at
it
is
this
I
try
to
treat
people
the
same
way.
O
P
Q
Hello,
my
name
is
Joel
Miller
and
my
address
is
on
file
and
I'm
scared.
To
be
here.
To
be
very
honest,
you
see
my
mom
is
an
administrator
in
this
county
and
my
wife
is
an
annual
contract
teacher
and
so
before,
I
start
I'm
asking
you
do
not
dismiss
my
wife
without
cause
on
the
basis
of
what
I
had
to
say.
That's
my
request
to
you
today,
mr.
Q
Van
Zandt,
you
said
that
due
process
for
annual
teachers
would
be
against
the
spirit
of
the
law,
but
you
did
not
reference
the
other
27
counties
in
an
email
that
you
sent
to
all
employees
if
I
were
to
send
a
reply
to
all
employees,
I
would
be
sold.
That
I
was
using
political
speech.
I,
don't
like
that.
Mrs.
McCann
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
you,
in
which
you
said
that
the
scheduling
of
this
meeting
was
necessary
to
accommodate
all
stakeholders.
You
were
the
first
conversation
I
had,
and
it
was
a
delightful
time.
Q
I
appreciate
you
taking
that
time.
My
next
conversation
was
mrs.
with
mrs.
Carrick
is
and
then
later
in
the
evening,
with
mrs.
Stoddard
I
spent
two
hours
talking
to
school
board,
people
on
the
same
day,
I'm,
not
sure
what
happened
to
me
and
I
found
out
that
they
both
had
appointments
and
were
not
consulted
about
the
time
of
this
meeting
and
that
one
of
them
had
already
put
in
that.
Q
This
is
not
a
good
day,
and
yet
the
meeting
occurred,
and
so
my
question
is
this:
forgetting
the
people
that
are
standing
behind
me
were
all
the
people
that
were
necessary
to
be
at
this
meeting
consulted
about
the
9:00
a.m.
time.
That
is
a
question.
I
am
not
implying
an
accusation.
I
am
simply
trying
to
understand
better.
A
lot
of
these
recommendations
will
cost
you
nothing.
Q
R
Pretty
lawless,
my
name
is
on
file
I
stand
before
you
today
to
ask
you
to
stand
up
for
the
teachers
of
Clay
County.
My
husband
and
I
are
both
teachers.
We
are
simple
people
with
simple
needs.
To
be
honest,
a
raise
would
be
nice,
but
my
husband
I
will
be
fine
either
way.
My
concern
is
for
my
profession,
you
say
you're
having
trouble
attracting
new
teachers
to
the
county
because
of
the
Stepp
issue.
R
R
There's
a
high
price
to
the
turnover,
the
high
turnover
rate
in
Clay
County
I'm,
not
just
talking
about
money
here.
Every
teacher
who
sticks
around
beyond
the
first
couple
of
years
has
regrets
about
that.
First
year
we
do
our
best
and
most
first-year
teachers
are
just
fine,
but
that
first
year
is
never
your
best.
By
continuing
these
practices
that
undervalue
your
current
workforce,
you
are
doing
the
citizens
of
Clay
County
and,
more
specifically,
the
children
of
Clay
County,
a
matrix
service.
S
Madam
chairman,
my
name
is
Andrew
Tsavo
I
live
at
11:08,
Grove,
Park,
Drive,
south
I
wanna.
Let
you
know
I
have
a
list
of
29
people
that
still
would
like
to
speak.
I
would
like
you
to
take
the
time
to
listen
to
them
because
they
did
take
the
day
to
come
here,
never
mind
the
people
that
couldn't
take
today
to
come
here.
Thank
you.
We're.
T
778
sunny
stroll
dry
first
time
speaking
I'm
here,
just
saying
that
pain
needs
to
be
competitive,
to
keep
excellent
except
effective
and
highly
effective
teachers.
Our
students
need
teachers
that
feel
valued
to
continue
encouraging
their
efforts
in
the
face
of
the
challenges
that
we
meet
every
day.
Ok,.
A
A
A
This
hearing
will
include
a
maximum
of
30
minutes
of
oral
argument
by
the
district
labor
attorney
Eric
Hall
Towser.
Mr.
Holt
Hauser
may
save
some
of
his
time
for
rebuttal,
but
his
time
may
not
exceed
30
minutes
after
Ms
Holshouser
mr.
Holt
Hauser.
We
will
hear
a
maximum
of
30
minutes
from
the
CCE.
A
I
ask
both
parties
to
address
their
arguments
to
the
school
board
in
a
courteous
and
professional
fashion,
and
during
these
oral
arguments
this
would
be
the
only
opportunity
for
the
board
to
ask
questions
of
the
parties.
A
G
E
E
Is
in
the
form
of
an
appellate
argument,
it's
30
minutes
per
side.
It
is
highly
out
of
order
for
any
argument
for
the
other
side
to
get
up
and
stop
the
other
side
at
the
beginning
of
presentation.
You
are
you
have
the
opportunity
to
address
whatever
you
have
during
your
30
minutes.
You
can't
use
his
30
minutes
to
address
your
concerns,
your
what
you're
doing
right
now
as
you're
using
additional
time.
That's
you're,
trying
that
it's
not
allotted
to
add
to
the
argument.
E
A
C
E
E
V
E
The
the
petitioners
time
in
reply
he
raises-
or
she
raises
an
issue
that
was
not
previously
addressed,
and
it
goes
into
a
point
that
was
not
that
the
respondent
did
not
have
an
opportunity
to
reply
to
then
what's
called
Sur
rebuttal
and
at
that
point
in
time
the
respondent
gets
an
opportunity
to
have
additional
time
briefly
to
simply
address
the
points
that
were
raised
in
the
rebuttal
by
the
petitioner
that
had
not
been
previously
had
the
opportunity
sponsor.
That's
the
only
opportunity
for
Sri
Buttle.
Thank.
A
C
E
Standard
appellate
practice,
the
respondent
does
not
have
the
opportunity
reserve
any
additional
time.
That's
called
Sur
rebuttal,
and
that
is
only
allowed
to
be
used
in
appellate
procedures
and
in
quasi
judicial
procedures.
In
the
event
that
there
is
an
argument
that
was
made
by
the
petitioner
during
the
petitioners
reply
that
they
had
not
had
an
opportunity
to
respond
to
during
their
case
in
chief
okay.
V
Here
today
the
special
magistrate
recommended
the
district's
salary
proposal
and
the
union
did
not
object
to
it,
so
that
operates
as
a
tentative
agreement
on
that
issue.
So
that's
not
something
before
the
board.
Today.
Salaries
have
been
agreed
upon
and
it
includes
a
reopener.
The
wage
proposal.
Salary
proposal
includes
a
reopener
if
the
fourth
calculation
shows
that
the
district
reserves
have
gone
above
at
or
above
three
percent.
V
Van
Zandt
in
October
after
the
impasse
was
declared
by
the
way
where
the
Department
of
Education
made
clear
that
the
district's
fund
reserves
were
both
3%
for
the
prior
year
and
were
projected
to
be
provoke
3%
for
the
current
year,
and
in
that
they
say,
we
consider
a
financial
condition
that
is
below
3%
to
be
a
sign
of
an
unhealthy
financial
condition.
As
a
result,
the
district
offered
a
salary
proposal
plus
a
reopener
if
in
the
forth
calculation,
which
is
coming
up
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
it
shows
that
reserve
level
is
up.
V
That
will
reopen
that
particular
proposal
was
accepted
recommended
by
the
special
magistrate.
The
union
did
not
reject
that,
which
means
we
have
10
of
agreement
on
salary
that
and
that's
not
an
issue.
The
only
thing
that's
going
to
be
an
issue
before
this
board
is
what
the
parties
are
still
in
disagreement
over
and
there
are
a
few
items.
There's
there's
economic
item.
There's
one
economic
item
really
two
one
I
think
is
more
technical,
but
we've
got
an
insurance
proposal.
V
The
other
economic
issue
that
I
think
is
only
technically
it
impasse
is
supplements
the
special
magistrate.
If
you
review
the
special
magistrates
recommendation,
it
appears
he's
favoring
the
district's
proposal
on
supplements,
but
I
I'm,
not
there
yet
proposed
the
district's
proposal
on
supplements,
and
but
neither
party
objected
to
that.
But
technically
he
made
no
recommendation
on
supplements
in
his
in
his
order.
So
I
think
that's
before,
and
then
there
are
three
non-economic
items
that
are
before
this
school
board.
One
you've
heard
some
about
in
the
public
comment
and
that's
automatic
renewal
of
annual
contracts.
V
V
Secondly,
even
though
the
special
magistrate
recommended-
and
it
was
not
objected
to
the
district's
proposal
on
flexible
scheduling
for
in-service,
there
still
is
an
issue
on
in-service
in
terms
of
partially
awarding
in-service
training
credits
for
those
who
do
the
seat
time
the
in-class
time,
but
don't
do
the
implementation
part
where
the
training
requires
both
now
there's
no
dispute
that
if
the
training
only
requires
seat
time,
both
parties
agree,
you
get
credit
for
that.
The
only
issue
is
where
the
training
requires
both
seat
time
and
implementation.
V
The
district
proposal
is
that
you
get
the
credit
after
you
do
both
the
union's
proposal
is
that
it's
split
in
half
or
you
know,
one
part
for
one
in
one
part
for
the
other,
and
even
the
special
magistrate
they're
conditioned
his
recommendation
to
adopt
the
union's
proposal
on
the
Department
of
Education,
saying
that's:
okay
and
we've
not
gotten
any
okay
to
that.
And
finally,
the
other
non-economic
issue
is
discounting
three
years
experience
for
new
hires
coming
into
the
district,
and
we
have
we
want
to
maintain
the
status
quo
on
that
language.
V
V
Little
bit
of
about
a
presidential
debate,
but
anyway,
the
the
the
$300
per
pay
period
increase
that
the
Union
proposed
would
cost
just
for
the
instruction
personnel
one
point:
five
million
dollars
and
if
we
did
it
for
everybody,
including
a
non
instructional
personnel,
that
tab
goes
up
to
two
point:
five
million
dollars,
that's
what
we
rejected
now.
Just
yesterday,
like
I,
said
the
Union
came
up
with
a
brand-new
proposal,
even
though
he'd
been
at
impasse
since
August
of
2015.
V
That
says,
they'll
go
down
to
two
hundred
and
eighty
eight
dollars
per
pay
period,
which
is
the
cost
of
the
base
insurance
in
the
school
district.
That
still,
if
they'll
replied
to
everybody
in
the
school
district,
that
would
still
be
almost
one
point:
nine
million
dollars
added
to
the
budget.
And
again
we
haven't
gotten
to
that
fourth
calculation.
Well,
we
know
that
the
reserves
are
going
to
be
at
that
3%.
V
Go
ahead
besides
the
economic
cost,
which
again
we
can
address
if
the
reopen
errs
triggered
on
the
fourth
calculation,
we
have
what
I
consider
an
inequity
if
the
teachers
are
awarded
a
higher
contribution
for
insurance
than
the
other
bargaining
unit
or
other
employees
of
Clay
County.
This
same
bargaining,
representative
Union
group
represents
us
pizzaz
well
in
negotiations.
Espa
agreed
to
the
status
quo
on
insurance
contribution
that
contract
is,
is
both
set.
V
You
know
that
that's
gone
through
the
process
and
there's
no
proposal
there
at
all
to
increase
the
insurance
contribution,
so
if
we
gave
it
to
the
teachers
and
not
to
the
other
employees
of
Clay
County,
that
would
be
inequitable
so
there's
two
reasons:
there's
cost
and
there's
just
treating
everybody
fairly.
So
we
respectfully
request.
A
V
Because
of
the
inequity
of
the
union's
proposal
in
the
extreme
cost
of
it,
we're
urging
this
board
to
adopt,
as
part
of
a
as
one
of
the
part
of
the
superintendent's
recommendation,
to
stick
with
the
status
quo
for
now
on
insurance,
realizing
that
a
reopener
may
be
coming
up
and,
of
course,
we're
almost
into
bargaining
for
the
next
school
year
now.
The
second
economic
item
is
supplements.
As
I
said
it,
it
appeared
that
the
special
magistrate
recommended
the
district's
proposal
on
supplements,
but
he
didn't
come
out
and
say
it
specifically.
V
The
union's
recommendations
that
we
got
yesterday
didn't
even
address
supplements
so
I
presume
they
read
it
the
same
way,
so
we
may
be
ok
there,
but
just
to
make
the
record
clear.
I
want
to
urge
this
board
to
adopt
the
district's
proposal
on
supplements,
which
again
is
maintaining
the
status
quo
based
on
a
salary
of
a
beginning,
salary
of
$35,000
a
year.
If
you
look
at,
we
did
this.
V
These
are
exhibits
that
we
used
in
the
special
magistrate
proceeding
if
you
look
at
the
supplements
for
Clay
County
and
compared
to
our
counties
that
we
used
in
that
process.
You'll
see
if
you
studied
carefully
that
Clay
County
is
the
highest
in
supplements
in
eight
of
those
13
categories
and
in
the
others
they're
near
the
top.
V
So
certainly
in
terms
of
the
current
supplements
we're
in
the
ballpark
er
at
the
top
of
the
range
when
it
comes
to
our
market
comparators,
which
I
think
is
relevant
and
again
we're
just
urging
we
maintain
the
status
quo
for
this
current
school
year,
subject
to
negotiations
in
the
future
in
any,
you
know
if,
if
and
when
were
dollars
become
available.
So
that's
the
sort
of
technical
thing
the
union
has
not
recommended
anything
particular
on
supplements.
V
V
The
in
2011,
the
Florida
Legislature
did
away
with
continuing
contracts
prospectively
for
school
teachers
under
the
Student
Success
act.
That
was
an
intentional
purposeful
move
by
the
legislature
that
they
thought
in
the
public
interest.
It
was
better
not
to
have
a
some
of
tenured
teachers
going
forward,
and
that
is
something
that
the
school
district
here
has
held
to.
But
the
school
district
did
in
a
prior
negotiations
not
long
ago,
did
adopt
a
process
for
annual
contract
teachers
who
were
not
renewed,
went
into
a
pool.
V
We've
got
preference
over
new
hires
in
terms
of
being
reappointed,
so
there's
some
protection
there.
But
by
adopting
the
union's
proposal,
which
the
special
magistrate
did
recommend
he's
a
college
professor,
he
was,
he
ruled
as
one
of
them's
in
public
comment
said
that
based
on
public
interest
in
welfare.
But
our
position
is
that
the
Florida
Legislature
determined
by
the
voters,
what
the
public
interest
in
welfare
is
and
they
did
away
with
continuing
contracts.
V
So
our
position
is
that
we
should
stick
to
the
status
quo
on
that
and
not
to
recommend
the
special
magistrate
or
the
union's
position
on
automatic
renewal.
You'll
see
that
even
though
they
claim
it's
not
automatic,
because
you
have
to
get
good
evaluations
that
here's
how
many
people
got
less
than
satisfactions
in
the
last
two
years,
it
would
have
been
one
person
out
of
all
the
schoolteachers.
V
V
So
just
so
you
know
the
st.
John's,
School,
District
I,
believe
is
taking
that
position.
So
we
urge
you
to
adopt
the
status
quo
proposal
on
that.
Next
is
a
regarding
in
the
service
points
right.
This
is
where
again
I
explained
before
that,
when
the
in-service
training
requires
classroom
training
seat
time,
there's
no
dispute
do
once
you
do
the
seat
time.
You
get
the
credit
the
only
dispute.
V
The
only
dispute
is
there
are
certain
types,
in-service
training
that
the
Florida
Department
education
says,
require
both
seat
time
and
implementation,
doing
it
in
the
classroom.
Our
proposal
is
for
that
particular
type
of
training
that
you
get
the
credit
once
you
complete
both
phases.
The
union's
proposal
is
that
you
break
that
in
two,
so
somebody
can
get
credit
for
seat
time
and
get
some
credit,
but
never
complete.
The
required
training
administration
think
that
that
is
contrary
to
what
the
Department
of
Education
protocols
are
and
we're
not
aware
of
that
being
allowed
by
the
department
education.
V
So
we
urge
this
board
to
adopt
the
in-service
proposal.
It's
also
an
area
where
we're
going
toward
an
arbitration
on
it
and
I
think
if
there's
a
decision
here,
we'll
clear
that
up
and
maybe
avoid
having
to
arbitrate
something
that
we
don't
think
really
needs
to
be
arbitrated
and
even
as
I
said
before,
the
special
magistrate
had
recommended
the
union's
proposal
on
that,
but
he
said
conditioned
on
the
Department
of
Education
agreeing
to
that
protocol.
We
have
got
nothing
from
the
union
or
anybody
else
saying
the
Department
of
Education
agrees
with
that.
V
So
we're
an
urge
that
you
retain
the
adopt
the
district's
proposed
on
insert
awarding
in-service
points.
And,
finally,
the
leapfrogging
issue
under
the
union's
proposal,
which
is
special
magistrate
recommended
everybody
that
is
hired
or
new
hires
would
lose
three
years
of
service
in
deciding
where
to
slot
them
when
they're
being
hired.
V
Actually,
the
district
has
entered
into
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
the
Union
on
an
ad-hoc
basis
to
do
that
anyway,
but
it's
not
willing
the
district's
not
willing
to
embed
that
permanently
in
the
collective
bargaining
language
and
think
that
there
may
be
some
better
language
that
can
be
utilized
in
a
contract
setting
that
doesn't,
and
in
some
of
these
others-
and
we
pointed
to
that's
out
in
the
arbitration
there's
some
of
these
other
types
of
language.
Talk
about
you
limit
the
amount
of
credit.
V
You
know
to
a
certain
maximum
when
new
hires,
but
not
take
it
away,
and
these
are
examples
of
language
that
other
districts
have
in
their
collective
bargaining
agreements
on
trying
to
avoid
that
sort
of
leapfrogging
effect.
One
is
the
credit
for
combined
teaching
and
other
experience
may
be
allowed
up
to
a
maximum
of
10
years,
you're,
not
taking
three
years
away,
but
you're,
capping
it
and
then
there's
another
one
where
it's
maxed
out
at
fifteen
years,
so
that
again,
impasse
was
declared
at
the
third
meeting.
V
There
wasn't
a
lot
of
discussion
on
some
of
these
finer
points,
but
this
I
think
the
district
standpoint
is
maybe
a
different
or
better
way
to
go
than
what
the
Union
proposed
and
the
special
magistrate
recommended.
We
think
to
that
now
that
we're
well
through
this
school
year.
This
is
something
better
set
to
maintain
the
status
quo
this
year,
which
we're
following
an
MoU
that
does
what
the
Union
want
is
proposing
and
then
for
the
next
year
of
the
contract.
V
We
can
discuss
things
or
detail
on
this,
but
as
a
team
at
this
point
in
time,
we're
urging
this
board
to
adopt
the
superintendent's
recommendations
on
all
of
the
items
that
are
the
impasse
which
doesn't
include
anything
about
salary
because
that's
not
an
impasse.
Thank
you
very
much.
I've
got
what
11
minutes
left
I'm
going
here.
Okay,.
A
E
A
E
A
C
C
Mr.
Holzhauer,
thank
you
for
coming
here
today.
My
my
main
question
is
I'd
like
to
know
if
you
could
explain
to
this
board
what
an
ex
parte
communication
is
well.
V
C
That
be
what
the
email
that
we
received
on
March
4th
from
mr.
Van
Zandt
that
he
D
elde
the
entire
district
on,
would
that
be
considered
an
ex
parte
communication
where
he
basically
gave
his
argument
of
what
we
should
be
hearing
from
you
today
and
not
from
mr.
Van
Zandt.
While
we
were
already
in
the
insulated
period.
Is
that
considered.
V
C
A
G
G
Secondly,
I
want
to
read
two
supplements.
Mr.
Holzhauer
is
mistaken.
The
magistrate
I
have
his
ruling
here
did
rule
on
supplements,
and
this
is
what
he
said.
However,
if
the
school
board
does
not
adopt
the
union's
insurance
proposal,
it
should
consider
maintaining
the
$38,000
figure
to
calculate
supplements
as
a
fair
concession
to
the
Union,
which
is
in
the
public
interest.
So
therefore
he
did
rule
on
that
and
we
are
going
to
suggest
or
recommend
that
you
do
take
his
recommendation
and
rule
in
our
favor
with
regards
to
supplements.
G
That
was
not
an
objection
of
either
party,
so
it
was
very
disappointed
to
even
hear
that
brought
up.
We
consider
that
accepted
and
T
aid,
so
first
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
annual
contract.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
tell
you
that
several
folks
call
me
and
tell
me
that
they
could
not
come
today
because
they
were
fearful
okay,
and
that
is
where
our
annual
contracts
live
daily
so
and
Laura.
Thank
you
very
much
for
reminding
me
about
4:47
I'm.
G
G
So
let's
talk
about
what
the
contract
does
say.
First
of
all,
it
is
you
there
are
certain
things
that
you
have
to
do
and,
in
summary,
to
be
definitively
reappointed
as
an
AC
teacher.
First,
you
have
to
complete
your
one-year
probation,
which
the
law
says.
You
need
to
have
an
effective
and
highly
effective
evaluation.
You
need
to
be
recommended
by
your
principal
and
then
there
has
to
be
a
fund
funded
allocation
in
the
district.
G
However,
the
last
part
is
that
we
did
bargain
in
a
few
years
ago
that
our
folks,
if
they
there
was
not
a
position
in
the
district,
that
our
folks
would
be
allowed
to
go
into
a
phase
known
as
phase
three
and
that
only
guarantees
them
an
interview.
It
does
not
guarantee
them
a
spa.
It
only
means
that
they
can
interview
prior
to
the
outside
public.
Coming
in
I
can
tell
you.
We
have
lost
a
lot
of
highly
effective
and
effective
annual
contract
teachers
because
they're
not
a
good
fit,
so
we
have
to
address
this
problem.
G
So
let's
talk
about
what
our
proposal
was.
Our
proposal
was
not
PSC
like
in
status.
We
know
that
we
no
longer
have
PSC
status,
we
have
old,
continuing
contract,
we
have
PSC
status
and
now
we
have
annual
contract.
So
what
we're
asking
for
is
that,
after
three
years
of
effective
or
highly
effective
evaluations
that
our
annual
contract
teachers
will
be
reappointed
to
this
district,
provided
there
is
an
allocation
somewhere
in
this
district.
So
as
it
stands
right
now,
the
allocation
has
to
be
at
their
school.
G
If
the
allocation
is
not
at
their
school,
then
they
go
back
to
the
phase
and
hope
hope
you
get
something,
but
you
may
not
and
probably
want
a
statistics
show
what
we're
saying
is,
if
there's
an
allocation
that
they
are
certified
for
anywhere
in
this
district,
that
they
have
first
they'd
be
placed
there
and
the
reason
why
is
they
are
vetted?
They
are
have
proven.
G
They
have
done
their
first
year,
which
we
know,
as
teachers
have
said,
is
their
year
under
their
belt
and
they
are
now
in
their
third,
their
third
or
fourth
year,
and
they
are
feeling
confident
in
front
of
those
kids.
Why
are
we
going
to
take
a
brand-new
person
off
the
street?
Then
we
know
nothing
about.
We
have
not
vetted,
they
don't
know
the
clay
way
and
we're
going
to
allow
them
to
jump
into
a
position
unless
it
is
your
neighbor
down
the
street
that
you
promised
a
job
as
soon
as
they
got
out
of
school.
G
Next,
we
want
to
talk
about
what
we
are
not
proposing.
We
are
not
proposing
that
you
have
no
way
to
get
rid
of
an
ineffective
or
poor
teacher.
Okay,
the
contract
as
well
as
statute
states
that
if
a
teacher
is
ineffective,
there
are
provisions
for
getting
rid
of
those
teachers.
Okay,
we
have
said
if
they
have
three
years
of
effective
and
highly
effective,
they
have
to
maintain
that
well,
not
saying
after
the
three
years
they
can
do
whatever
they
want
and
if
they
get
ineffective.
G
No,
the
language
is
clear:
they
must
maintain
an
effective
or
higher
evaluation.
Furthermore,
we
are
saying
that
the
district
still
has
the
ability
to
terminate
under
just
cause
that's
law
and
contract.
So
if
your
people
are
doing
something
they're
not
supposed
to
do
regardless
of
if
they're,
effective
or
highly
effective,
there
are
still
provisions
for
this
district
to
do
what
they
need
to
do
as
managers.
We
are
not
asking
for
anything
special.
We
are
saying
that
these
folks
simply
need
to
know
that
they
have
a
job
each
year.
G
They
don't
want
to
go
at
the
end
of
a
year
and
sit
there
through
the
summer
and
hope
they
get
a
call
back.
Then,
if
they
do
get
a
call
back,
they
have
to
hope
it's
before
October
1st,
because
otherwise
they'll
be
considered
a
break
in
service
and
they
have
to
start
all
over,
which
is
a
nice
cost-effective.
Medical
cost
containment
measure
for
the
district
all
right,
and
then
we
are
asking
that
the
the
language
is
not
proposing
that
the
district
retain
every
teacher,
regardless
of
the
need,
if
a
reduction
in
force
should
become
necessary.
G
There
is
also
contract
language
by
which
you
can
follow
to
make
that
happen
too.
So
we
are
not
asking
for
anything
precious
other
than
the
fact
that
these
people,
who
are
effective
and
highly
people
effective
and
highly
effective
people,
have
a
job
the
next
year.
If
there
is
one
available
above
anybody
from
the
outside.
G
I
want
to
talk
about
a
couple
of
portent
facts
on
this.
If
you
take
a
look
at
the
document,
I
gave
you
that
has
highlighting
there.
This
is
from
our
transcript
and
if
you
would
take
a
look
at
that,
you
will
see
that
mr.
hulls
house
are
in
his
own
admission,
says
the
transcript
says
mr.
Holshouser
says:
while
it's
not
prohibited
and
he's
speaking
to
the
special
magistrate
here,
while
it's
not
prohibited,
and
the
magistrate
says
what
statue
is
that
mr.
G
G
Secondly,
I
want
to
point
out
that
28
of
67
counties
have
now
adopted
this
language
and
there
has
been
no
reprisal
as
a
matter
of
fact,
Orange
County
adopted
this
language
the
very
year
after
it
came
out
of
statute.
Senate
bill
736
was
adopted
and
there
has
been
no
reprisal.
So,
therefore,
we
are
saying
that
this
is
permitted.
G
Another
quote
from
your
attorney
that
he
did
bring
up,
and
that
was
about
our
threshold
to
receive
an
effective
rating
is
a
60%
on
the
evaluation
system
system,
which
is
an
artificially
low
standard
established
by
the
clay
assessment
committee
of
which
the
union
represents
constitute
representatives
constitute
the
majority
I
have
given
you
the
sign-in
sheets
for
the
cast's
meetings,
as
you
can
see,
I
have
gone
through
if
it
does
not
indicate
the
board
team
and
the
CCA
team.
What
you
can
see
on
that
first
page
it
does.
The
board
team
far
outweighs
the
CCA
team.
G
That
one
was
from
August
of
2015.
Have
several
more
sign-in
sheets
here?
Is
one
from
2014
have
another
from
2014
one
from
2013
a
couple
from
2013
and,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
star
out
beside
all
of
the
CCA
representatives.
Another
thing
I
want
to
note
to
you
is
that
the
CCA
representatives,
myself
and
Miss
Paiva,
are
not
voting
members
on
that
committee,
and
on
top
of
that,
that
committee
simply
makes
suggestions
to
our
bargaining
teams.
They
cannot
do
anything
unilaterally.
They
must
make
a
suggestion
to
our
bargaining
team.
This.
G
The
information
that
is
in
this
caste
system
has
been
vetted
by
your
high-level
district
of
administrators,
so
therefore
everything
that
was
divided.
What
that
was
developed
in
that
committee
is
something
we
all
agreed
to.
This
isn't
something
that
the
Union
pushed
down
anyone's
throat,
because
we
certainly
do
not
have
a
majority
on
that
committee.
G
Next
I
want
to
go
over
why
this
matters
there's
a
cost
associated
with
new
employee
training
and
I
know
that
miss
McKinnon
likes
to
talk
about
having
worked
out
in
the
corporate
world.
I
worked
in
the
corporate
world
and
one
of
the
very
first
things
that
we
understand
is
there
is
a
high
cost
to
turnover,
because
you
have
to
retrain
folks
and
in
our
industry
that
cost
is
not
just
financial.
That
cost
affects
our
students.
The
students
of
this
County.
G
If
you
take
a
look
at
the
next
frame,
this
talks
about
retention.
We've
got
retention
problems.
Here,
we've
got
folks
leaving
in
droves.
Someone
take
a
look
at
a
couple
of
statistics
that
were
provided
to
us
by
miss
Corrigan,
one
of
our
board
meetings,
school
board
meetings,
first
of
all,
in
1314,
132,
resignations
and
52
retirements,
a
total
of
hundred
eighty-four.
Then
we
had
hundred
90
resignations
with
seventy-two.
Retirements
folks
are
leaving
this
county.
How
can
you
expect
that
they
are
going
to
stay
in
a
district
when
we
are
losing
the
best
and
the
brightest.
W
Okay,
I
just
went
up
Tracy's
tall
just
want
to
finish,
spend
a
few
moments
talking
about
in
service.
First
of
all,
just
taking
a
look
at
what
the
law
says
and
not
going
to
read
this
to
everyone
here,
but
this
is
the
Florida
Statute
that
sets
up
in
service
language
and
it's
basically
our
understanding
that
they
defer
to
the
school
board
to
come
up
with
our
master
in
service
plan.
W
I
looked
far
and
wide
to
find
specific
language
in
the
statute
and
India
regulations
regarding
follow
up,
and
it's
just
not
there
also
as
far
as
the
do
II
cut
and
paste
it
a
little
bit
from
from
their
handbook
here,
but
I
want
to
point
out
the
read
section
down
there.
One
in
service
point
shall
be
equivalent
to
one
o'clock
hour
of
participation
so
right
there.
W
They
are
telling
you
that
we
have
a
right
to
that
point
for
sitting
there
taking
a
look
at
what
the
magistrate
said
to
require
implementation
is
not
fully
respectful
of
the
professionalism
of
teachers.
Although
we're
used
to
that
the
union's
proposal
is
reasonable
and
respects
our
professional
opinions.
We
ask
that
this
board
does
the
same
thing.
W
As
far
as
the
magistrate's
decision
during
the
superintendence
rebuttal,
he
said
the
school
district
believes
that
the
protocols
require
believes
is
not
good
enough
for
me,
and
it's
not
good
enough
for
these
people
here.
We're
going
to
ask
you
the
same
thing
we
ask
our
students
show
me
in
the
text
show
me
where
it
says
that
follow-up
is
required.
W
W
W
Sometimes
it
tells
us
stuff.
We
already
know
I'm
not
going
to
go
and
waste
my
precious
time
doing.
Follow-Up
paperwork
to
show
you
that
I
just
learned
something
that
I
already
knew.
Sometimes
they
cover
things.
I
can't
use
so
I'm,
certainly
not
going
to
go,
implement
a
poor
strategy
and
put
my
students
through
that.
Just
so
that
I
can
get
a
few
extra
points,
it's
not
fair
to
them.
It's
not
fair
to
me
and
then
also
sometimes
you
can't
put
it
into
words.
W
I
teach
economics
I've
gone
to
workshops
at
the
Federal
Reserve
and
it's
increased
my
knowledge
of
economics,
but
I,
don't
know
that
I
could
put
down
where
exactly
in
the
lesson
plan
I
used
that
and
even
if
I
did
I
don't
have
time
for
it,
because
I'm
too
busy
developing
my
lesson
plans.
That's
why
we
get
it.
We
understand
that
you
want
us
to
go
back
and
implement
these
things
in
the
classroom,
but
we're
just
simply
asking
for
that
partial
credit.
We're
not
asking
for
all
of
it.
W
We're
just
simply
saying
if
we
show
up
and
we
use
our
valuable
time.
Please
give
us
credit
for
that.
Please
treat
us
like
professionals
and
trust
that
if
you
provide
good
in
services
and
they're
good
strategies,
we
will
use
them.
That's
how
we
became
an
a
school
district
because
we're
using
good
strategies,
and
if
you
really
value
this
follow-up
paperwork,
maybe
you
could
give
us
some
time
to
do
it.
W
X
Our
magistrate
even
concurs
that
even
with
the
district's
proposed
$500
salary
increase
that
they
proposed
at
the
table,
employees
are
still
experiencing
a
net
loss
and
pay
due
to
their
ever
increasing
insurance
contributions
when
the
board
is
not
increasing
their
contributions
as
mr.
Van
Zandt
when
he
wrote
in
his
recommendations
of
how
to
to
respond
to
this.
One
of
the
comments
that
he
made
was
the
lowest
insurance
plan
that
we
have
right
now
is
288
dot,
seven
cents
we
proposed
$300.
X
He
said
we
would
be
crediting
employees
back
the
CCE
a
never
intended
for
the
district
to
have
to
credit
money
back
to
an
employee.
When
we
said
the
$300,
we
hadn't
even
bargained
the
insurance
rates,
we
didn't
know
what
the
insurance
rates
were
going
to
be.
They
were
not
finalized,
it
was
a
ballpark
figure.
Our
intent
was
for
the
district
to
cover
the
premium
of
the
lowest
cost
health
plan.
Mr.
Y
Y
Was
just
going
to
say
good
evening,
but
it's
not
it's
good
morning.
I
get
to
speak
about
leapfrogging
and
just
a
point
of
interest
here
that
I
want
you
to
know
ray
Fisher
is
our
co-chair
and
the
bargaining
team.
He
is
absent
here
because
three
weeks
ago,
the
county
hired
him
to
test
esal
children
at
Orange,
Park
High
School,
so
he
certainly
wasn't
consultant
in
the
time
and
neither
was
I,
as
my
dentist
will
tell
you
he's
missing
me
in
his
chair.
Y
Y
Y
Teachers
employed
at
that
time
were
rolled
to
the
new
step.
Three
steps
behind
due
to
the
steps
they
have
been
denied
in
the
prior
years.
These
steps
are
gone
forever
because
the
new
salary
schedule
only
applies
to
teachers
entering
this
school
district
bargaining
from
this
point
forward
was
to
be
about
money,
not
steps.
The
money
is
note
that
the
problem
is
that
no
money
has
ever
ever
been
bought
to
us.
Y
It's
never
been
on
the
table
and
it
has
nothing
whatsoever
to
do
with
the
entry-level
salary
scale.
Teachers
in
Clay
have
watched
new
hires
enter
this
district
with
the
same
amount
of
years
of
experience
as
themselves.
Yet
these
hires
were
given
experience
credit
for
all
the
years
of
service
they
bought
from
other
districts.
Y
Y
Y
I
need
you
to
clearly
understand
the
new
entry-level
salary
scale.
We
went
into
that
agreement
when
we
got
the
governor's
money
because
was
the
only
time
the
district,
this
district
and
because
the
CCA
has
always
worked
with
this
district.
Until
recently,
the
only
time
we
can
flatten
the
scale
out
to
comply
with
Florida
Statute
was
to
use
the
governor's
money.
The
six
point
two
million
dollars
didn't
come
to
all
these
people.
Do
the
math
about
five
point.
Four
million
dollars
was
used
to
flatten
the
schedule.
The
law
says
it
has
to
be
increments
equal.
Y
That's
not
what
has
to
happen
now
because
of
state
statute
statute
says
there
has
to
be
equal
increments,
so
the
entry-level
salary
scale
was
done
in
$1,000
increments.
That's
why
it
was
compressed.
It
cost
a
lot
of
money.
If
we
didn't
agree
to
use
the
governor's
money,
you
could
have
never
done
it
in
2010-11.
We
didn't
get
a
step
in
2011-12.
We
didn't
get
a
step
in
2012-13.
We
got
a
step
that
was
equal
to
90
percent
because
it
was
done
way
down
the
world.
You
know
we're
always
saying
wait,
wait,
wait,
wait.
Y
You
know,
wait
for
the
fourth
calculation
sure
fourth
calculation
comes
out
next
month,
but
then
mr.
Gekko
said
at
the
last
school
board
meeting,
while
no
in
June
of
July.
What
we
really
have
are
you
kidding
me
2013
I
told
you
how
was
converted
2014-15
no-step
2015-16,
no
step.
Let
me
just
regress
for
a
second
now.
You
see
where
the
no
steps
are
all
along
the
way.
We'd
never
put
money
on
this
salary
scale
that
wasn't
the
intent.
Y
Y
Well,
I
want
to
take
it
one
step
further:
ask
the
question
about
your
administrators.
Ask
the
question
what
their
rating
is
and
I
will
bet
my
paycheck.
Their
rating
is
reflective
of
us
because
we're
a
team
if
they're
highly
effective.
So
are
these
people
highly
effective
to
question
after
they
took
you
from
a
b
district
for
the
last
three
years
to
question
is
even
insulting.
Y
They
are
highly
effective
people
and
I
would
want
them
teaching
my
children
I'm,
going
to
ask
the
school
board
for
once
to
be
impartial
to
act.
Like
the
legislative
committee,
you
are
to
look
at
what
was
said
by
the
impartial
special
magistrate.
The
reason
the
CCA
did
not
object
to
the
salary
and
the
money
issues
except
the
leapfrogging,
which
saves
you,
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
just
figure
it
out.
Y
Y
I
am
so
I
truly
and
if
you
saw
when
the
people
were
speaking,
I
was
crying
I'm,
a
guidance
counselor.
This
is
foreign
to
me.
I,
don't
play
your
lawyer
games,
I,
don't
know
your
lawyer
games
I
only
know
kids
and
see
for
four
months.
You've
listened
to
people
come
up
here,
employees
and
teachers
and
tell
you
about
their
hardships.
Y
Y
When
I,
when
I
sit
there
and
people
were
talking,
I
have
teachers
texting
me,
they
must
be
on
their
planning
period.
Ad
they're,
quoting
the
Bible
and
I
sit
there
and
I
thought
to
myself.
This
is
where
am
I
I'm
in
a
vacuum
we
were
invoke
God
to
something
that
is
just
simple
respect:
we're
not
asking
you
for
any
money.
We're
asking
you
for
the
AC
language
to
protect
our
own
for
the
leapfrogging
insurances,
a
mute
point,
we're
at
RFP.
Y
That's
really
a
mute
point,
and
the
magistrate
was
absolutely
clear
if
you're
not
going
to
give
us
insurance
put
the
reads
the
supplement
language
back,
where
it
was
notice
that
mr.
Van
Sant
never
objected
to
the
supplement
language,
and
yet
he
wrote
recommendations
about
the
supplement
language.
You
can't
write
recommendations
about
something
you
never
objected
to.
Y
The
administrator
supplements
are
38:5,
they
got
increased.
We
have
year
after
year,
said
to
the
school
board,
because
the
school
boards
come
with
us
with.
You
know
we
have
no
money,
we
have
no
money,
and
all
this
association
does
is
work
with
you.
All
this
association
does
is
sit
there
and
go
okay.
We'll
do
a
waiver
we're
tired
of
waving
we're
tired.
These
people
can't
pay
their
mortgages.
These
people
can't
make
their
electricity's.
Y
These
people
can't
help
their
children
go
to
school,
go
to
college,
but
you
have
an
opportunity
to
do
a
lot
of
things
to
show
whose
side
you're
on
that
costs
you
no
money.
That
is
the
ultimate.
The
ultimat
of
disrespect
and
I
want
to
clarify
one
more
one,
more
thing
that
mr.
Hall
sizer
said:
saspa
and
I
really
do
kind
of
resent
Susman
being
bought
up
in
a
CCA
impasse,
but
anyway,
ESPA
accepted
the
insurance
says.
Buff,
he
obviously
doesn't
know
is
an
impasse
for
the
2014-15
school
year.
Y
We
are
an
impasse
in
the
1516
school
year,
so
we
accepted
our
contract
last
year
and
we
signed
the
exact
same
thing,
so
they
didn't
accept
insurance.
We
had
already
accepted
it.
The
question
right
now
is
a
2015-16
school
year
and
it's
suppose
a
year
behind
us
I'm,
going
to
implore
you
to
accept
the
recommendations
of
the
special
magistrate
we
are
put
us
back
to
being
at
a
school.
We
want
to
remain
in
a
district,
and
we
can
only
do
that
with
your
help.
Thank.
G
E
V
Remaining
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
that's
not
what
the
st.
Johns
County
district,
labor
attorney,
told
me,
but
we'll
go
from
here,
we'll
see
what
happens
in
st.
Johns,
County
and
and
I
never
did,
and
and
that's
something
that
that
it
was
relayed
to
me
and
if
you
look
at
the
statute,
there's
some
case
law
that
supports
that
I
did
not
take
that
position
in
the
impasse
here
and
I
admit
that
I'm
not
going
to
say
I
did.
But
it's
a
it's
an
issue
and
we'll
see
how
that
gets
resolved
there.
V
V
There's
no
indication
that
that
is
extraordinarily
high
in
terms
of
the
in
terms
of
the
other
school
districts,
there's
always
turnover
in
different
jobs,
and
if
we
went
back
and
looked
at
the
number
of
folks
that
have
left
the
school
district
since
2011,
when
that
PSC
language
was
eliminated
and
it's
been
relatively
flat,
it's
gone
up
and
down.
It
hasn't
been
over
increasing
during
that
timeframe.
V
There's
implementation
phase
and
I
just
want
to
put
that
on
the
record,
for
that
we
have,
you
know
I
think
come
here
with
the
idea
of
resolving
a
few
issues.
There
are
and
and
I
disagree
about
the
supplements.
The
magistrate
did
not
recommend
anything
on
supplements.
If
you
look
at
the
special
magistrates
recommendations,
he
made
a
specific
recommendation
to
each
item
supplements
he
didn't.
He
said
first
he's
reluctant
to
add
anything
to
the
budget
and
then
he
said,
maybe
we
should
consider
it.
V
If
the
insurance
proposal
is
not
adopted,
he
never
recommended
either
our
proposal
or
the
union's
proposal.
He
left
it
wide
open.
So
there's
no
reason
to
object
to
it,
because
there
was
no
recommendation
to
object
to
and
that's
something
that
I
think
this
body
needs
to
resolve
and
again
because
of
the
cost
and
I
think
it's
like
$250,000
or
so
that
that
would
cost
plus
the
fact
that
we're
at
the
top
compared
to
other
school
districts
that
are
comparable
in
supplements
that
we,
we
recommend
that
this
board
adopt
all
of
the
superintendent's
recommendations.
A
A
F
U
A
U
A
A
A
A
F
E
Ma'am
I'm
not
trying
to
rep
you,
but
this
is
what's
going
to
basically
happen.
Is
the
board
has
an
opportunity
to
review
each
essentially
recommendation
package
and
if
one
is
adopted,
then
then
then
it's
adopted
and
I
believe.
What's
because
the
petitioner
has
brought
a
recommendation
first,
it
is
a
recommendation
that
they're
making
and
the
board
has
the
opportunity
to
eject
it.
E
Here's
what
basically
the
board
has
the
opportunity
they
can
adopt
it
in
toto
deny
it
then
the
next
one
would
be
up
to
your
discretion,
but
it
would
normally
just
be
the
the
special
magistrates
recommended
order
adopted
or
rejected
there.
The
Union
has
now
filed
their
own
recommendation
than
you
adopt
or
rejected,
and
if
all
is
rejected,
then
the
board
has
the
opportunity
to
either
maintain
the
status
quo
or
they
can
go
forward
with
each
issue,
as
has
been
framed
by
the
special
magistrate
and
adopt
or
reject.
C
E
E
What
happens
when
a
matter
goes
on
appeal?
The
the
appeal
is
granted
or
denied.
The
appeal
here
is
made
by
the
school
bored
by
the
administration
and
they've
met
a
recommendation.
What
happens
then
the
board
rejects
it
or
accepts
it
in
toto,
okay
and
then
what
happens?
If
you
reject
it
in
toto,
then
you
go
to
the
next
issue,
which
would
be
the
special
magistrates
which
that's
the
recommend
order,
so
you
accept
it
or
you
reject
I,
mean
now's
the
time
to
discuss
all
of
the
aspects
on
would.
E
Way
to
do
that
is
to
reject
every
one
of
them,
and
then
you
have
if
the
board
rejects
the
entire
recommendations
of
the.
The
superintendent,
then
rejects
the
entire
recommendations
of
the
special
magistrate
and
then
rejects
the
entire
recommendations
of
the
Union,
and
you
have
at
that
point
time
the
opportunity
at
a
time
yeah.
A
E
So
basically,
what
happens
in
the
appeal
is
from
the
administration
appealing
the
recommendation.
Special
magistrate
so
usually
accept
or
reject
the
appeal.
If
you
reject
the
appeal,
then
the
issue
is:
do
you
accept
or
reject
the
special
magistrates
ruin?
And
if
you
reject
it,
then
you
have
two
issues
give
to
basically
give
more
than
that.
But
what
it
boils
down
to
your
options
are
to
go
over
each
issue,
one
that
time
except
to
reject
those
issues,
one
at
a
time
or
if
you
do
all
that
stuff,
then
essentially
what
happens
is
fundamentally.
C
D
E
E
When
you
take
a
look
at
the
the
appellate
process,
when
you
look
at
it,
its
appeal
granted
appeal
denied
if
you'll
grant
it
in
part
appeal
denied
in
part,
so
what's
happening
on
our
quasi
judicial
proceeding,
you
either
grant
or
you
deny
the
requested
relief
or
you
can
grant
in
part
or
deny
in
part
or
you
can
deny
in
toto
okay.
It.
C
E
A
F
I'm
just
going
to
make
this
pretty
short
and
sweet
I
think
on
the
I
guess
I'm
going
to
comment
on
the
four
items
that
are
in
contention
here.
Leapfrogging
I
agree
with
the
magistrate
on
this
I
think
that
this
board
in
future
years
can
can
look
at
perhaps
better
ways
to
do
this,
but
I
think
for
right
now.
I
would
be
comfortable
going
forth
with
the
three
years
that
the
magistrate
recommended
in
service
I.
F
Would
I
believe
that
if
the
teachers
do
this
in
service
that
they
should
get
credit
now
there
is?
There
was
a
contingency
on
this
with
the
do
ii
protocol
and
it
said
in
the
magistrates
opinion
the
school
board
should
consult
with
da
to
ensure
that
partial
credit
without
immediate
implementation
or
use
of
a
skill
for
those
trainings
that
envision
implementation
does
not
violate
any
do
a
protocol
with
that
proviso.
I'm.
Okay,
with
that
the
annual
contracts,
you
know,
I
kept
hearing
the
word
respect
today
and
I
really
don't
have
a
problem
with
that.
F
I
would
hate
to
know
that
I
had
been
teaching
five
years
and
been
highly
effective
in
that
I.
Don't
know.
Sometimes
you
just
got
to
do
what's
right
and
you
know
in
the
I'm
looking
at
the
special
special
magistrates
wording
here
and
he
was
talking
about
what
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
district
and
the
employees
and
and
Clay
County.
F
F
It
bothers
me
that
with
health
insurance
and
and
this
board's
inability
to
give
raises
in
the
past
that
someone
can
work
and
three
years
later,
is
making
less
money
than
they
were
making
it
just
doesn't
make.
It
doesn't
make
sense,
I.
Think
more
than
anything
of
the
details.
What
I'm
saying
basically
as
I,
support
the
magistrate's
recommendation
straight
down
the
line.
F
I'm
not
through
okay,
all
right
and-
and
this
really
has
nothing
to
do
with
it,
but
on
the
supplements.
This
is
plain
English.
However,
if
the
school
board
does
not
adopt
the
union's
insurance
proposal,
it
should
consider
maintaining
the
thirty
eight
thousand
figure
to
calculate
supplements
as
a
fair
concession
to
the
Union,
which
is
in
the
public
interest
there.
AA
You
needed
a
break
I'm,
okay,
thank
you,
but
I.
Just
apologize
for
the
quality
of
my
voice.
I
I
think
that
the
very
words
collective
bargaining
would
indicate
that
both
sides
should
come
together
and
and
work
together
for
the
best
interest
of
both
parties,
and
it's
unfortunate
that
we're
here
at
the
impasse
process,
because
because,
clearly
to
me,
collective
bargaining
would
work
much
better
than
impasse,
since
it's
much
more
the
exception
than
the
norm,
but
nonetheless
we're
here
and
and
I've
really
struggled
a
lot
with
this.
AA
Balance
at
3%
and
I
was
not
on
the
board
when
we
dropped
below
3%
and
I,
can't
in
good
conscience
vote
to
drop
back
below
that
when
we
it
appears,
we
may
get
the
money
and
again
with
the
fourth
calculation,
and
we
don't
know
where
proration
will
go.
That
is
of
concern
to
me.
I
think
that
the
I
do
think
there
is
an
issue
for
our
district
and
the
leapfrogging
I
understand
that
I
talked
to
a
number
of
teachers
over
the
past
couple
weeks
and
I
understand
that
conceptually.
AA
My
concern
is
for
our
students.
If
we
pass
what
has
been
recommended
here,
that
our
students
who
need
such
things
as
speech,
pathology
and
some
of
the
upper
level
math
classes
where
we
have
struggled
to
have
even
people
fill
the
positions
we
have
opened
today,
I'm
concerned
that
they
won't
have
the
services
that
they
need,
which
is
our
utmost
reason
of
being
here.
So
I
do
believe
that
leapfrogging
in
some
way
should
be
addressed
in
the
BART
in
the
collective
bargaining
process
going
forward.
AA
Q
C
Janice
Carrick,
as
have
nothing
but
the
utmost
respect
for
all
of
our
staff.
Our
teachers
and
our
support.
Employees
and
I
do
believe
that
you
are
the
reason
that
we
are
in
a
district
and
we
do
have.
We
have
nothing
but
the
best
here
so
I.
You
know,
I
agree
with
the
special
magistrates
recommendations
completely
I
think
the
insurance
amounts
should
be
put
to
the
280
8.7
cents
and
we
shouldn't
be
crediting
anybody
back,
but
I
agree
with
the
in-service.
If,
if
you
sit
for
four
hours,
you
should
be
paid
for
the
four
hours.
C
If
it's
something
that
doesn't
apply
that
you
can't
implement
back
in,
you
should
get
partial
credit.
I
agree
with
that
completely
I.
Believe
frogging
I
mean
that's.
That's
wrong!
I
agree
that
we
should
protect
the
employees
that
we
have
now
so
that
new
employees
coming
in
are
not
making
more
money.
They're
coming
in
to
the
same
level.
I
could
missus
stuttered
put
it
into.
You
know
perfect
words
as
to
what
she
said.
You
know
we
do
respect
you.
We
need
to
work
together
with
you.
C
It's
sad
that
we
couldn't
do
it
this
year,
something
that
I
noticed
that
miss
Butler
gave
us
was
the
sign-in
sheet
for
your
bargaining
sessions
and
this
caught
my
eye
mr.
Bronski,
because
we
adopted
a
bargaining
team
that
had
six
people
on
it.
Yet
the
first
page
I'm
counting
11
people
on
the
bargaining
team,
so
I
guess
that's
something
we'll
have
to
address
and
look
at
down
the
road
because
six
people,
it's
not
the
bargaining
team,
no.
C
So
I
thought
that
was
the
bargaining
team
when
she
handed
that
to
us
and
I
thought.
Why
is
there
11
names
on
this
list
when
there
should
only
be
six
because
we're
paying
six
people
to
bargain
on
behalf
of
the
district,
so
my
recommendation
would
be
to
approve
the
special
magistrates
recommendation
with
the
amendment
to
the
insurance
number
three
and
change
that
amount
to
two
hundred
88.7
cents.
Z
Z
Clearly,
a
professional
job
certainty
should
never
hinge
on
the
outcome
of
one
stand-alone
evaluation
that
could
never
be
considered
fair
practice
or
treating
our
teachers
like
the
professionals
that
they
are.
Our
current
practice
does
show
preference
to
hiring
back
our
own
teachers,
while
also
maintaining
the
ability
to
eventually
hire
an
outside
applicant,
should
they
prove
to
be
more
qualified,
thus
ensuring
that
we
have
the
best
of
the
best
in
every
position
in
our
district.
Z
Z
The
magistrate
cited
our
financial
state
as
a
reason
to
not
increase
wages
and
supplements,
but
then
said
we
should
contribute
more
to
health
costs.
If
we
can't
afford
one,
we
certainly
can't
afford
the
other
whether
we
pay
more
in
wages
or
in
health
insurance.
The
money
spent
would
further
deplete
our
fund
balance,
which
would
be
an
unacceptable
intentional
violation
of
the
state's
mandated
three
percent.
The
burden
of
health
care
costs
is
not
unique
to
Clay
County.
It's
not
unique
to
the
school
board.
Z
It's
a
it's
a
painful
cost
that
the
majority
of
Americans
who
take
insurance
are
currently
incurring
due
to
the
changes
in
legislation
from
the
federal
and
state
government.
The
district
is
following
on
point
number:
four:
the
district
is
following
the
current
MOU
to
withhold
the
three
years,
experience
from
new
hires
and
effort
to
keep
things
fair.
This
has
caused
some
trouble
in
filling
some
positions
of
which
we
are
in
dire
need,
such
as
speech
pathology.
K
Z
A
A
So
I
just
want
to
say
this
when
I
go
to
work
when
I
go
to
work
and
I
have
to
agree
with
what
miss
Gill
Heusen
said
when
I
go
to
work,
I
strive
to
do
the
best
that
I
can
I
strive
to
be
the
best
at
what
I
do
because
I
know
I
am
being
measured
against
my
peers,
okay,
okay,
this
is
my
final
warning.
If
I
do
not
get
some
quiet
in
the
room,
I'm
going
to
start
asking
you
all
to
leave
okay
this
this
is
it
I.
A
In
regards
to
issue
number
two,
the
in-service
training
points
again
I
believe
that
the
magistrate
expressed
concern
about
violating
DOP
protocol,
but
he
wasn't
so
much
concerned
with
violating
st.
protocol
when
it
came
to
issue
number
one
in
respect
with
insurance
contributions
again,
while
the
magistrate
basically
said
that
a
two
point,
nine
million
dollar
salary
proposal
wasn't
really
good
for
our
financial
condition.
Yet
two
point:
five
million
dollars
in
insurance.
I,
don't
think
he
put
that
back
together.
If
we
can't
afford
one,
we
can't
afford
the
other
in
respect
to
leap.
A
Frogging
leap,
leap,
frogging,
you
know
this
is
an
issue
of
recruiting
individuals
in
hard
to
fill
positions,
as
everybody
here
mentions
such
as
speech
right
now
we
have
an
MoU
in
place
and
I
think
the
real.
What
what
the
district
has
said
is
that
let
us
evaluate
the
impact
of
that
MOU
before
we
go
forward
and
put
this
in
language
I.
Don't
think
we
understand
the
full
impact
yet,
and
it
was
expressed
that
there
may
be
some
issues
with
that.
A
A
Lastly,
wages
and
supplements
again,
the
district
had
proposed
to
come
back
to
negotiation
on
salary
increases
after
we
got
to
three
percent
and
until
that
fourth
calculation
comes
in
and
we're
certain
that
we
are
at
three
percent
I,
don't
think
it's
prudent
to
put
further
strain
on
the
budget
on
the
fund
balance
until
we
know
for
sure
that
our
financial
condition
is
stable
and
that's
really
what
I'm
committed
to
doing
making
sure
that
our
financial
condition
is
stable.
And
then
you
know
revisiting
this
issue.