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From YouTube: Aug 2023 Chapter Meeting
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Presentation on "Using today's technologies to provide sustainable solutions for educational facilities" by Joshua Minor, Exec. Dir. - Facilities, Hurst Euless Bedford ISD
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All
right
we,
the
climate
reality
Dallas
excuse
me,
Dallas,
Fort,
Worth
chapter
acknowledge
the
ongoing
harm
caused
by
colonialism
and
the
white
supremacy
perpetuated
in
Texas.
Indigenous
communities
have
super
genocides
and
forced
removals
from
their
lands.
We
recognize
that
we
all
are
standing
on
land
stolen
from
indigenous
people,
particularly
those
of
Kickapoo
Wichita,
tawakani,
germanos
and
Comanche.
In
the
DFW
areas,
we
are
committed
to
cultivating
mindfulness
around
the
history
of
native
lands
and
communities
through
continuous
education,
participation
and
active
listening.
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B
Absolutely
our
rules
for
every
meeting
are
as
follows.
Please
make
space
or
take
space
limit
your
responses
for
two
minutes
each.
So
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
share
when
you
speak.
Please
speak
from
the
eye
perspective
instead
of
generalizing
practice
active
listening
and
seek
to
understand
the
the
position
of
the
other
person
assume
that
everyone
here
has
good
intentions,
respect
one
another
space
time
and
interest
be
willing
to
be
uncomfortable,
be
open
to
productive
discomfort.
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C
I
didn't
really
like
that.
I'm,
not
a
person
who
can
really
talk
to
people
and
I
have
joined
the
DFW
meetings,
maybe
in
two
or
three
occasions
in
the
past.
It's
just
that.
It's
been
very
difficult
for
me
to
get
into
the
meetings
like
today
and
sometimes
I
just
forget,
but
I'm
glad
to
be
here
and
get
to
know.
Everybody.
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Thank
you,
Beth
I,
see
to
put
in
a
comment.
I
was
listening
to
Michael
Moore
about
the
movie
Barbie,
which
he
just
thinks
is
one
of
the
greatest
movies
he's
seen
in
many
years,
which
surprised
me
but
chip
chip
put
in
a
comment
about
that.
Thank
you.
Chip
I
think
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
jump
into
our
speaker,
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
Josh
Miner
here
today,
especially
the
beginning
of
school,
and
he's
the
executive
director
of
facilities
and
Construction
in
Hearst
Euless,
Bedford
ISD.
A
T-A-S-B
energy
board
Josh
currently
works
for
HEB
ISD,
as
I've
mentioned
as
the
executive
director
of
construction
and
Facilities
overseeing
maintenance
and
operations
in
overseas
and
manages
all
aspects
of
the
construction
process.
So
thank
you
so
much
Josh
for
being
here
today.
We
know
you've
got
a
very
busy
schedule,
especially
at
this
time
of
the
year
and
with
all
these,
these
committee
commitments
also
I'm
sure
you're
very
busy,
so
welcome
and-
and
you
have
the
floor.
E
Excellent,
thank
you
all
and
I
appreciate
you
guys
having
me
and
allowing
me
to
be
able
to
come
and
share
about
what
we
do.
One
of
the
things
you
may
not
think
that
you
know
we
don't
stand
out
for
kind
of
a
Hidden,
Gem
I
would
say
between
the
Metroplex.
You
know
we
said
right
between
two
of
the
biggest
districts.
E
Another
piece
too,
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background,
because
this
is
going
to
come
up
later
in
my
in
my
talk
my
background
I've
studied
architecture
in
college
when
I
first
started,
so
that
does
obviously
that
leads
right
into
the
construction
and
all
of
my
experience,
but
the
other
piece.
It's
usually
gives
people
that
kind
of
a
crooked
look
at
me
is
my
degree,
is
actually
an
applied
behavioral
analysis,
so
I
studied
architecture
and
behavior
analysis
and
I
actually
worked
with
children.
E
I've
been
I
had
to
do
part
of
my
time
at
the
State
School
in
Denton
I
was
a
camp.
Counselor
worked
with
special
needs
and
had
kids
out
there
that
we
mainstreamed,
and
so
that
that
plays
into
a
little
bit
here
in
just
a
minute
about
the
reason
and
some
decisions
moving
into
some
of
the
ways
we
are
more
efficient.
E
That
was
it
that's
where
we
were
going
to
go
to
and
we're
going
to
have
a
robot
that
would
take
care
of
everything
and
we're
going
to
lose
our
jobs
and
blah
blah
blah,
but
really
what
it
came
down
to
is
that's
not
the
direction
we're
more
like
Fifth
Element.
If
you
watch
that
movie,
you
understand
it
wasn't
one
robot,
that's
doing
everything.
E
We
have
specific
special
use
instruments
and
and
robots
providing
different
services,
so
we're
looking
at
things
a
little
bit
different
as
far
as
how
to
be
more
sustainable
than
probably
what
some
would.
The
second
thing
I
want
to
make.
Sure,
too,
is
I
want
to
I,
want
to
tell
you
how
we
engage
in
an
actual
impact.
What
we
do
is
we're
going
to
look
at
the
ROI
we're
going
to
look
at
how
that
impacts
our
environment.
E
We
want
to
make
sure
that
there
is
actual
reduction
in
use
for
us
and
that
we
see
that
in
the
bottom
line
and
we're
going
to
utilize
that
data.
So
if
you
don't
think
about
HEB
ISD
we're
a
we're,
a
very
data
driven
district
and
we
we
follow
a
Baldridge
model.
We
want
to
be
able
to
have
the
data,
explain
what
we
do
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
do
a
lot
of
times.
E
There's
a
term
I
say
we're
going
to
do
bullets
before
cannonballs,
in
other
words,
we're
going
to
research,
something
we're
going
to
look
into
it
and
we're
going
to
Pilot
that
and
it'd
be
like,
if
you
can
imagine
two
ships
warring
on
this
on
the
sea,
they're
taking
a
rifle
and
they're
going
to
get
their
range
and
once
they
get
their
range
and
then
they're
just
going
to
unleash
all
the
guns.
And
so
we
follow
that
method.
E
E
I
will
never
release
it
into
a
classroom
until
we've
tested
on
us
first,
and
so
we
want
to
know
all
the
ins
and
outs
then
also
be
able
to
bring
in
that
Roi
and
then
also
like
I
said
to
be
able
to
tell
you:
am
I
am
I
using
electricity
wisely?
Am
I
conservative
I'll
be
able
to
say
that
you
know
effectively.
E
So
let
me
begin
and
tell
you
some
of
the
ways
that
we're
doing
that.
So
first
of
all,
HEB
is
one
of
the
most
efficient
or
most
conservative
in
the
state.
We
in
this
past
year
have
had
a
couple
Consultants
come
in
and
you
can
say
that.
But
it's
good
to
have
people
come
in
and
test
you
and
we
had
a
couple.
E
Consultants
come
in
and
one
of
them
just
swore
up
and
down
that
they
could
save
us
money
and
and
and
help
us
out,
and
so
we
said,
okay
great,
come
to
the
table.
Let's
have
a
conversation,
then
we
walked
a
couple
of
our
facilities
and
when
we
got
to
the
end,
they
looked
at
us
and
we're
like
not
that
there's
not
area
for
improvement,
but
their
the
business
model
didn't
work
for
them,
because
we
were
already
so
efficient
and
we
had
already
attacked
a
lot
of
the
low-lying
fruit
that
they
were
going.
E
You
know
any
kind
of
know
that
you,
you
know
work
in
this
industry.
You
know
what
they're
going
to
come
after
and
we'd
already
taken
care
of
those
and
then
another
company
came
in
and
they
were
kind
of
saying
the
same
song
and
dancing,
and
so
yes,
we
want
to
see
they
have
a
different
perspective.
Well,
they
knew
immediately.
We
had
no
low-lying
fruit,
but
they
had
another
concept
they
were
going
for,
but
then,
when
we
really
sit
down
the
table
and
said
what
our
future
was,
we
were
already
moving
that
direction.
E
So
we
were
already
talking
about
programming
systems
and
doing
some
of
the
things
that
they
were
talking
about.
So
again,
the
model
didn't
work
for
one
or
both
of
us,
so
we
didn't
go
into
that,
but
they
did
say
you
know
of
clients
that
we've
looked
at
you're,
definitely
in
the
top
10
or
top
five
in
the
State,
who
is
the
most
efficient
and
the
methods
that
you're
using
to
to
be
able
to
get
there.
So
how
do
we
do
that?
What
are
we?
What
is?
E
How
do
we
get
to
know
what
you
know
where
we
need
to
be
focusing
our
attention
and
how
to
align
our
goals
and
what
we're
using
I
would
say:
let's
start
off
with
the
Pareto
Principle,
so
the
80
20
rule
so
in
school
districts,
and
it
doesn't.
This
applies
to
any
school
district
in
the
state.
We
are
a
service
industry
essentially,
and
so
our
heavy
costs
in
districts
are
going
to
be
in
the
80
or
more
is
payroll.
E
So
that's
that's
on
that
side
of
any
facility-
and
this
typically
plays
true
sorry
about
that.
This
truth
plays
true,
typically
in
even
your
home.
Ten
percent
of
your
budget
is
going
to
fall
over
on
to
your
maintenance
and
maintenance,
then
is
going
to
include
your
utilities.
So
if
you
look
at
our
utilities,
our
our
budget-
that's
based
how
it
goes.
88
is
payroll.
The
next
10
percent
of
that
is
going
to
be
maintenance
and
operations,
enough
maintenance
and
operations.
We
then
have
electric
electricity
is
going
to
be
the
largest
piece
of
that
as
well.
E
So
we
budget
about
three
million
dollars
a
year
on
electricity,
but
since
I've
been
here,
we
have
never
hit
that
or
exceeded
that,
and
that
is
with
increasing
our
District's
square
footage,
cost
I'm,
sorry
square
footage
about
a
million
when
I
got
here.
We
were
about
2.5
and
we're
sitting
we're
pushing
over
3.5
now,
and
we
have
construction
coming
up.
That
is
going
to
push
us
probably
more
in
the
range
of
four
to
four
point:
two
million
square
feet
in
the
next
five
to
seven
years.
E
The
other
thing
that's
proudly
be
able
to
say
is
so
we're
focused
on
the
electricity
anytime.
You
bring
a
building
on.
You
typically
see
like
here's
our
budget
going
along
and
all
of
a
sudden
when
that
building
comes
online,
you
see
a
plateau.
It
is
just
like
a
straight
line
and
here's
the
new
Norm
ours
looks
more
like
a
lazy
Hill
from
out
in
the
Panhandle
and
that's
where
I
come
from.
That's
my
my
background
is
growing
up
the
Panhandle
and
and
being
able
to
see.
E
E
Then,
if
I
want
to
attack
my
elliptical,
what
are
the
things
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
for
and
the
two
biggest
systems
in
a
school
district,
or
probably
even
you
know
this
applies
in
most
facilities,
a
typical
facility,
it's
going
to
be
either
HVAC
and
or
elect
your
lighting.
So
we
started
working
on
that
when
I
first
got
here
about
a
little
over
13
years
ago,
and
so
we
moving
from
the
old
HVAC
systems
and
looking
what
we
could
move
to
the
future.
E
Again,
my
background
comes
from
colleges,
so
there's
different
types
of
systems.
Many
of
you
don't
think
geothermal
right
off
the
bat.
So
that
would
be
many
think.
That's
the
most
efficient
system,
but
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
drawbacks
to
that
again
when
I
say
Roi
I'm,
looking
at
the
total
total
cost
of
operation.
So
in
my
situation,
I
don't
have
somebody
who
is
a
water
tech,
I,
don't
have
people
who
are
trained
and
understand
water
pumps,
and
then
we
don't
have
typically
a
piping
system
on
many
of
our
buildings
that
works
well.
E
Another
thing,
too,
is
coming
from
higher
said:
pyrid
works
with
a
chiller
type
system,
because
anytime
you've
got
a
facility
that
is
either
going
to
run
24
7..
So
when
a
college
you're
going
to
have
dormitories
libraries,
libraries,
rec
centers
and
your
student
unions,
they
run
24
7,
just
about
and
you're
always
going
to
have
a
chiller
running,
and
you
want
those
chillers
running
at
about
75
to
100
and
keep
them
moving
so
that
the
Energy
Efficiency
is
there
if
you
start
dropping
down.
E
So
let's
now
look
at
a
K-12
when
we
drop
our
population
off
at
three
o'clock
in
the
afternoon
we
go
from
essentially
a
hundred
percent
and
we'll
drop
down
to
less
than
10.,
and
that's
it
so
between
we'll
go
from
elementary.
Let's
say:
seven
o'clock
high
schools
run
the
latest
they're
at
four
o'clock.
So
if
we're
running
between
that
that'd
be
great
you're
running
at
100,
but
if
I
had
a
chiller
and
as
soon
as
everybody
leaves
and
I
only
have
10
15
20
teachers
in
a
building.
E
That
Chiller
has
to
spool
back
and
is
now
essentially
like.
If
you
were
driving
a
standard
vehicle,
it's
lugging
and
it's
just
sitting
there
and
spending
a
lot
of
energy
to
try
to
produce
a
little
bit
of
effect
for
you.
So
we
shifted.
We
we
don't
have
chillers
I,
actually
removed
one
of
the
last
chillers
a
number
of
years
ago,
when
I
did
the
Electrical
savings
on
that
was
was
dramatic.
Everybody
was
trying
to
figure
out
what
happened
so
we
took
the
chiller
out
and
we
went
to
rtus.
E
Rtu
stands
for
rooftop
unit,
so
it's
like
imagine
at
your
house.
You
have
a
condenser
setting
on
the
outside.
Well,
this
one
is
a
big
big
machine
sitting
on
the
roof
and
dumped
straight
into
your
Ducks
into
the
building,
and
so
we
we
moved
to
that.
But
the
reason
too
is
here's
that
piece
where
today's
technology
is
actually
helping
us.
We
moved
to
a
a
unit,
that's
called
it's
the
company's
name
aeon,
but
aeon
Linux.
E
A
lot
of
these
companies
started
shifting
over,
and
so
they
have
compressors
that
could
it
used
to
be
through
stage
instead
of
just
coming
on.
They
go
from
zero
to
a
hundred.
You
had
this
Spike
and
you'd
see
this
big
spike
in
your
electrical
and
then
it
would
come
off
and
then
you're
running
at
a
high
usage
the
whole
time.
Your
fan
did
the
same
thing
when
it
came
on
it
kicked
hard
and
then
it
just
runs
100
out
in
our
situation.
E
What
it'll
do
is
it
comes
on
soft
and
if
we
need
15,
it
stays
at
15..
If
it
needs
60,
it
starts
ramping
up,
so
it
works
similar
to
a
chiller
to
where
you
have
that
variability
and
the
fan
works.
Like
you
would
your
pumps,
you
can
sit
there
and
run
them
from
zero
to
a
hundred
percent.
So
it's
not
like
the
old
way
of
doing
that
and
then,
if
you
take
what
we
have
is
we
have
a
building
management
system
or
EMS
or
BMS.
It
sits
on
top
of
that.
E
So,
whereas
I'm
not
like
a
house
I'm,
also
not
like
big
box
I'm
running
from
a
central
location,
I'm
running
the
entire
District,
every
one
of
those
units
run
through
a
system,
so
we
have
controllability
at
a
high
level
and
then
we
can
give
some
controllability
at
the
local
level
too,
to
our
occupants
to
our
teachers,
our
faculty,
and
they
can
have.
They
have
a
couple
degrees
they
can
move
in
there,
but
we're
running
it.
E
In
the
background,
and
then
the
other
part
too
is
we:
we
run
that
on
a
set
schedule
and
if
anybody
wants
to
occupy
our
building
outside
of
that
schedule,
you
have
to
then
come
in
and
you're
request
air.
So,
as
I'm
sitting
here,
I've
already
had
to
hit
my
override
today
twice.
It
may
kick
off
on
me
here
in
a
minute
and
you'll
start
seeing
me
glisten
just
a
little
bit,
but
I
can
go
over
hit.
E
How
do
I
know
this
works
or
why
do
I
know
this
works
when
I
first
got
here,
we
built
a
building
about
10
years
ago
over
in
Viridian,
and
those
of
you
that
know
between
Arlington
and
Euless,
as
a
development
that
went
in
kind
of
down
the
Trinity
River
bottoms,
and
it
is
a
at
the
time
they
were
going
to
be
the
first
Autobahn
certified
development
in
the
United
States.
What
that
meant?
E
Was
anybody
or
anything
built
inside
that
development
had
to
meet
this
standard
or
had
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
level
of
Energy
Efficiency
to
it?
So
when
we
were
doing
the
Covenant
I
had
to
negotiate
that
Covenant,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
things
that
we
would
do
that
they
were
that
they
didn't
want,
or
they
didn't
think,
would
work
or
things
that
they
wanted
us
to
do,
and
it
didn't
work
for
us
as
well.
So
one
of
those
they
immediately
said
are
you
going
to
use
geothermal?
E
E
We
sit
on
an
ancient
riverbed,
and
so
when
you
go
down
and
you
get
down
into
the
soils
where
you
need
to
be
to
make
that
work,
a
lot
of
that
soil
is
cemented,
Sands
or
Sandstone
sand,
but
a
lot
of
composite
that
doesn't
work
well
for
geothermal.
You
can't
take
the
heat
down,
displace
it
and
pull
back
out
at
the
rate
and
get
the
Delta
that
you're
supposed
to
have
so,
but
we
said
but
listen,
it's
we.
We
have
more.
E
So
we
said,
let's
look
at,
let's
show
you
what
we
do
and
how
we
control
things
and
see
if
that
will
still
meet
your
requirement
in
the
end,
and
it
did,
and
so
they
were
very
pleased
that
we're
able
to
still
come
in
there.
Another
part
too
was
plantings
and
trees,
of
course,
high-end
development.
They
want
to
look
a
certain
way,
but
at
the
same
time
I
had
to
get
them
to
back
off.
So
one
comparison,
that
is,
we
can
drop
down
part
of
the
heat
island
effect
if
we
could
bring
in
trees.
E
But
one
thing
I'm
even
talking
to
one
of
our
local
city
councils,
council
members
recently
and
the
city
made
the
same
mistake
that
you
put
in
trees
and
a
new
development
wants
a
lot
of
trees
and
they
you
got
this
a
requirement
that
we
have
to
meet
with
Landscaping.
So
in
doing
so
when
I
started
looking
at
their
specifications
on
trees,
the
type
of
trees
most
of
them
Works
a
few-
would
not
in
the
area,
but
then
the
other
problem
was
they're
playing
them
too
close
together.
E
So
in
doing
that,
I
said:
listen,
I,
hear
what
you're
saying
I
know
what
we're
doing,
but
we
need
to
not
think
about
today
or
five
years
from
now.
We
need
to
be
thinking
about
today
and
25
30
years
out
and
that's
really
where
we
need
to
be,
because
when
these
trees
hit
full
maturity,
the
canopies
are
at
45
foot
diameters
and
just
man
I'm
not
mathematician,
but
maybe
you
guys
can
help
me
out
here.
Their
the
spacing
was
25
foot
on
Center
to
the
trunks.
The
tree
canopy's
diameter
is
45..
E
So
if
I
have
two
trees
sitting
beside
each
other,
both
with
a
diameter
of
45,
they
can't
be
setting
25
feet
apart
from
each
other
because
as
they
mature
they'll
grow
into
one
another
and
that's
what
we're
I'm
seeing
a
lot
of
now
is
I'm
taking
trees
out
I,
look
like
I'm
I
hate
the
environment,
but
I've
got
to
take
these
trees
out
to
make
room
for
healthy
trees
and
to
continue
to
have
a
healthy
Forester.
So
in
doing
that,
we
did
and
they
understood
they,
they
agreed,
and
so
we
made
that
adjustment.
E
A
lot
of
the
plantings
that
they
had
too
were
not
native
to
that
area
and
I
didn't
want
to
bring
something
in
that
then
could
cause
another
issue.
John
and
I
were
talking
yesterday
and
I
recently
found
out
that
part
of
what
happened
in
Hawaii
recently
was
they
brought
in
some
grass,
because
you
know
they
didn't
have
that
kind
of
grass
on
a
volcanic
island
that
they
wanted,
so
they
imported.
E
So
same
thing
I
want
I,
do
not
want
to
bring
something
in
that
I
have
to
do
and
have
the
water.
You
know
extreme
amounts.
We
wanted
to
go
net
zero
and
that's
what
we're
working
towards
on
our
landscape
now.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
the
plants
that
were
requiring
a
great
deal
of
water
and
pull
that
out.
We
also
the
requirement
was
they
wanted
to
run
the
irrigation
system
and
it's
our
facility
and
we're
paying
the
bill.
E
So
it's
kind
of
like
if
you
said
your
friend
said:
hey,
can
I
borrow
the
car
but
you're
going
to
pay
the
gas
and
you're
going
to
pay
the
inspection
and
the
oil
and
the
tires,
but
they
get
to
drive
it
the
way
they
want.
Well,
we
didn't
we
didn't
agree.
We
said
we,
we
don't
want
to
do
it.
That
way,
but
that's
in
the
end,
that's
what
we
had
to
well.
E
It
took
about
a
year,
and
then
they
understood
what
we
were
talking
about
because
they
overwatered
the
landscape
and
killed
off
about
seven
trees,
and
in
doing
so
we
said,
listen,
it
was
our
requirement.
We
were
supposed
to
change
those
trees
out,
but
when
we
explained
what
was
going
on,
they
turned
the
irrigation
back
over
to
us
and
they
replaced
the
trees
because
they
knew
that
we
at
that
point
we
knew
what
we're
doing
you
need
to
listen
to
us,
because
this
is
how
the
best
way
is
to
run
it.
E
So
that
became
a
good
model.
We
were
that
school
has
ran
as
low
as
14
cents,
a
square
foot
on
electricity
and
no
more
than
24
cents
a
square
foot
on
electricity
on
its
worst
day.
Our
construction
methods
are
another
thing
that
helps
has
helped
us
out.
That
was
one
of
our
first
schools.
There's
a
construction
method
called
ICF.
It's
insulated
concrete
form.
If
you
can
imagine
insulation
on
both
sides
and
then
you
put
concrete
and
you
monolithically
pour
it
in
between
so
the
old
Adobe
homes.
E
You
had
a
big,
solid
piece
of
of
masonry,
essentially
mud
and
packed
in
and
I've
seen
that
I've
been
in
Albuquerque
and
I've,
been
in
some
of
those
and
in
Texas
Tech.
There's
a
couple
houses
that
were
experimental,
you're
sitting
in
a
hot
area,
and
it's
actually
got
this
natural
chimney
effect
and
cooling
itself.
You
take
on
heat
in
the
day.
You
release
that
at
night.
So
in
the
winter
time
it
works
out
very
well
as
as
well
so
on
this
building,
we've
got
very
thick
walls.
E
We
have
very
tight,
Windows,
double
pane
insulated
glass,
we're
using
insulation
built
up
on
our
roofs.
We
have
to
have
no
less
than
24
at
the
first
layer
and
then
we're
then
actually
going
more
because
we're
doing
flat.
It
looks
like
a
flat
roof,
but
it's
flat
tapered,
so
we're
in
some
places.
We
have
up
to
over
24
to
28
inches
of
insulation
built
on
the
roof,
with
gravel,
on
top
of
that
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
barrier.
E
So
that
kind
of
gives
you
a
couple
ideas
so
we're
this
is
not
you
know
off
the
chart
new
technology.
This
is
taking
Technologies
and
utilizing
them
to
work
together
to
be
able
to
provide
the
most
efficient
building.
We
can
now
the
next
thing.
Let's
go
ahead
and
switch
on
over
to
lighting,
so
electricity
I'm,
sorry
lighting.
We
all
have
fluorescence
and
thought
going
from
incandescent
to
fluorescent
was
great
and
there's
the
similarities
between
fluorescence
and
and
led
are
this.
E
We
can
have
25
to
2500
to
about
5000
kelvins,
so
you're
going
to
get
a
soft,
yellow,
you're
going
to
get
kind
of
a
bluish
white.
You
get
this
really
bright
white,
so
you
can
get
somewhere
in
there,
but
with
fluorescence
you're
going
to
have
you
gotta
buy
it
that
way
and
it
stays
static.
Leds
can
actually
be
color
tuned,
so
I
can
go.
I
can
do
the
range
in
the
same
day,
if
I
have
color
tuning
on
on
that
device.
Okay,
they
both
dim
but
fluorescence.
You
know
they.
E
They
don't
like
to
dim
as
much
and
when
you
also
turn
them
on
you're
on
100
and
then
the
the.
If
you
look
at
a
life
cycle
on
a
light,
a
fluorescent,
it
literally
goes
out
and
immediately
starts
dying,
aggressive
on
LEDs
when
we
started
that
and
I've
told
you
we
test
them
here.
We
were
playing
around
with
them
on
us,
expiring
first
and
then
we
turned
them
over
to
the
school.
E
Well,
we
don't
run
ours
at
100,
so
we're
actually
already
so
if
we
already
have
a
savings
between
LED
versus
fluorescent,
I
believe
that
comes
in
around
25
27
percent,
we
then
took
them
and
started
a
hundred
and
every
day
they
just
kept
backing
off
the
percentage
and
dimming
them
down.
Until
finally,
everybody
in
the
office
had
to
agree
and
say:
okay
right
there
stop
it's.
Now,
it's
a
little
too
dark
I
have
to
provide
35
candles
to
a
desk
in
a
classroom.
That
is
a
requirement,
so
we
measured
it.
E
We
were
above
the
35
candles
in
the
class,
but
in
the
office
they
were
like.
Okay,
we
just
got
to
a
level
where
it
feels
like
the
lights
have
dimmed
down,
not
really
crazy
about
that.
Can
we
bring
it
back
so
we
went
down
to
about
65
63
percent
and
we
brought
them
up,
so
our
100
100
in
HEB
is
65
to
68.
E
So
when
I
turn
my
lights
on
and
they
come
on
full,
that's
only
68
at
Max
and
then
inside
that
I
can
then
run
a
range
and
so
I
provided
programming
and
switches
so
that
when
we
bring
on
our
new
schools,
teachers
have
the
capability
of
dimming
the
entire
class.
The
other
thing
that's
nice
about
LEDs
versus
fluorescence
is
I,
can
program
to
do
whatever
and
then
I
can
switch
it
tomorrow
and
I
can
do
all
that
remotely
from
here
from
Arnold
site
on
any
school.
E
That's
in
our
system,
and
so
we
have
a
teaching
mode.
You
hit
that
it
ramps
to
the
board,
so
you're
still
providing
light,
but
we've
dimmed
it
down
and
again
it's
about
the
best
environment
for
our
students
to
be
able
to
learn
in,
and
so
that's
providing
that.
The
second
piece
to
this
nice
about
LEDs
versus
fluorescence
is
fluorescence.
I.
Remember
my
degree
has
been
applied,
Behavior,
Analysis
and
working
with
kids
with
sped.
E
If
you
have
autism
a
lot
of
times,
they
will
over
stimulate
both
on
light
and
on
sound
and
guess
what
that's,
what
you
have
with
fluorescence
on
both
sides,
whereas
if
I
switch
over
to
LED
I
lose
both
the
sound
and
I'll
lose
the
strobing
and
then
I
also
now
have
more
controllability
and
as
if
I
have
a
class
of
sped
students
and
also
this
works
on
everybody.
This
works
on
a
classroom
of
typical
students,
a
typical
staff,
a
typical
faculty.
We
were
talking
about.
E
Okay,
everybody
root
cause
analysis.
What's
our
greatest
issue
in
in
the
school
I
guess
it
was
like
seven
eight
years
ago
and
they
it
came
down.
It
was
Behavior,
that's
what
our
teachers
were
challenged
with
the
most
trying
to
provide
the
entire
class
with
the
best
education,
okay,
so
what's
causing
that,
and
so
you
know
what
what
was
nice
is
maintenance
and
operations.
I
was
able
to
lift
my
hand
and
say:
listen,
I,
don't
have
the
Silver
Bullet,
but
I
have
something.
E
I
have
a
solution
that
can't
help
you
and
I
was
able
to
come
to
the
table
and
actually
say
if
we
start
converting
to
LEDs
I
can
provide
you
a
method
that
actually
on
the
wall.
When
you
dim
the
lights,
you
can
actually
bring
down
the
behaviors
because,
as
the
lights
start
to
dim,
it
becomes
a
little
more
cozy.
It's
almost
like
the
ceiling
kind
of
closes
down
and
those
behaviors
tend
to
start
dropping
off.
Everybody
looked
at
me.
E
They
thought
I
was
crazy,
but
I
looked
over
to
the
executive
director
of
special
education
and
she
shook
her
head
wholeheartedly,
because
we
already
did
this
in
one
of
her
places
and
she's
like
Josh
is
right.
We
agree.
I
think
this
would
be
beneficial.
So
that's
why
we
went
ahead
and
we
started
rolling
out
across
our
district.
All
of
our
new
projects.
We
don't
normally
have
a
conversation
in
the
beginning
in
construction.
It's
going
to
be
your
specifications,
it's
going
to
be
your
building
methods,
you'd
prefer
and
the
next
one
is
all
most
always.
E
How
do
we
meet
the
energy
code?
So
people
are
just
trying
to
get
to
the
code
in
our
conversations
we
don't
generally
have
that
it's
usually
we
are
already
exceeding
the
code
so
far
that
they
don't
even
okay
yeah.
We
know
what
your
systems
are
and
we
don't
have
that
conversation
really
much
anymore
so
and
so
on
electricity,
that's
what
we
do
we
have
I
was
able
to
show
John
the
the
way
our
lights
operate.
E
E
My
environment
includes
my
sports
Fields,
so
I
have
to
provide
the
safest
and
best
in
environment
for
my
athletes
to
be
able
to
perform.
Now
we
have
moved
a
lot
of
our
large
Fields
over
to
synthetic,
but
we
still
do
have
some
grass
and
some
natural,
but
on
that
you
have
to
do
what's
called
a
g-max
test
and
g-max
rating
a
we
want
to
have
nice
green
grass.
We
want
no
patches,
so
we
do
have
to
water
that
right
now,
during
this
time
of
heat,
you
can
imagine
there's
times.
E
I
have
to
break
up
our
watering
cycles
and
we
have
to
water
two
three
times
a
day,
but
in
shorter
increments,
just
to
get
the
water
to
stay
on
the
ground,
so
the
grass
can
take
it
in
and
then
be
able
if
I
put
too
much
it'll,
just
flash
off
with
the
heat
and
actually
evaporate.
So
I
have
a
system
that
actually
helps
us
with
that
we
have
what
are
called
smart
clocks
again.
Remember
I
told
you
bullets
before
cannonballs.
E
So
when
we
tested
this,
we
put
it
on
one
school
and
we
we
watched
it.
It
actually
ties
into
Noah.
It
ties
into
our
weather
weather
station
here
at
my
office
and
it
watches-
and
it
reads
the
internet
and
watches
Noah's
forecast
if
our
area
gets
too
hot.
If
our
area
has
too
much
wind,
if
we've
had
too
much
rain
in
the
past
X
number
of
days,
it
knows
how
much
it's
watered.
It
does
a
calculation
and
it
figures
that
the
only
thing
that
I
could
go
further.
E
We
just
haven't
done
this
piece
is
I,
could
put
probes
into
our
fields
and
it
would
take
a
moisture
reading
off
of
the
soil.
Then
it
would
calculate
that
as
well.
That's
the
only
piece
I
don't
have,
but
what
it
does
is
it
sits
and
makes
a
calculation.
It
says
if
I
water,
for
this
amount
of
time
in
this
heat,
we'll
have
this
much
evaporation
if
I
water.
E
So
when
we
did
that
we
had
a
field
and
our
zones
ran
45
minutes
and
we'd
already
pulled
those
back
years
ago
to
try
to
save
basically
a
25
savings
on
that
and
still
be
able
to
provide
what
we
needed.
But
now
we
go
to
a
clock
and
we
look
at
it
and
we're
expecting
to
see
45
minutes,
and
it
said
the
run
time
on
one
zone
was
21
minutes.
The
next
day
was
37.
Next
day
was
15.
E
one
day
it
was
55,
and
so
what
it
was
doing
is
making
that
adjustment
to
be
able
to
provide
the
same
amount.
That
was
a
one
field
too,
that
we
have
not
had
as
many
issues
with
loss
of
grass
or
any
type
of
runoff
that
type
of
thing.
So
we
see
that
that
works.
So
then
guess
what
we
unleashed
the
Cannons
and
we
went
ahead
and
bought
clocks
like
that
for
all
of
our
other
and
replaced
all
of
our
other
irrigation
clocks.
E
So
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
get
enough
water
to
those
that
we're
not
shocking
them
during
this
type
of
heat
as
well,
so
we
actually
use
both
on
those
we'll
be
used,
use
mostly
the
well
water
if
they
ever
go
down.
I
do
have
backup
I
can
pull
from
the
irrigation
from
the
city
if
I
have
to,
but
we're
trying
not
to
do
that
in
in
that
type
of
this
time
of
year.
E
So
those
are
the
things
that
we
are
doing
now.
There
are
some
things
that
we
are
not
doing:
it's
not
that
we're
not
I,
don't
believe
in
it.
It's
not
that
I'm
not
engaging
or
researching
and
trying
to
find
the
right
the
right
product.
Is
it
that's
actually
what
I'm
doing
so?
Solar
would
be
one
of
those
things
in
the
long
term.
What
I
foresee
is
school
districts
could
become
solar,
solar
farms,
and
do
it
very
in
a
very
smart
manner.
We
have
lots
of
parking
lots
to
provide
a
benefit.
E
My
method
that
I'm
looking
at
doing
in
the
future
is
if
we
can
ever
get
a
solar
panel
that
is
as
efficient
as
as
it
can
be,
and
the
technology
starts
to
slow
down.
Then
we
can
jump
on
board
and
what
I'm
doing
when
I
build
facilities
where
I'm
at
right
now
we
have
covers
over
all
of
our
buses
and
I've
got
some
other
on
from
some
of
our
White
Fleet.
E
So
when
we
did
that
we
ran
extra
conduit
off
of
those
and
ran
it
back
to
a
central
location
and
right
now,
if
you
walk
in
that
room,
it's
empty
room,
but
you
see
a
whole
bunch
of
conduits.
The
reason
for
that
is
when
we
do
find
the
right
system
that
will
work
for
us.
We
want
to
bring
on
solar
and
be
able
to
pump
that
in
there
and
be
able
to
put
that
back
into
the
system.
But
at
the
moment
we
haven't
been
able
to
find
something
that
would
work
well
for
us.
E
E
So
in
doing
that,
the
other
thing
too
I'm
watching
is
we.
We
are
also
buying
power
from
solar
Farms
across
the
state,
but
we've
seen
those
get
iced
over
and
we
cannot
depend
solely
on
that.
We
cannot
depend
solely
on
on
wind
farms
because
they
can
ice
up
or
they
can
have
damage
and
with
and
those
are
direct
current
too.
You
can't
store
that
it's
got
to
be
able
to
produce
it
at
the
time
when
we
need
that
as
well.
So
there's
going
to
be
some
sort
of
balance
to
that.
E
We
have
no
fans
in
this.
District
I
know
Irving
does,
but
when
I
was
talking
with
them
and
looking
into
being
able
to
use
fans
and
windmills,
they
said
that
the
the
it
didn't
produce
enough
in
our
area.
We
don't
have
the
the
amount
of
wind
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
make
it.
You
know
sustainable.
So
over
there
they
said
it
barely
turned
enough
electricity.
E
I
said
so:
they'll
run
things
past
us
and
they
wanted
us
to
jump
on
a
10-year
contract
correct,
but
that
didn't
make
sense
either,
because,
if
I
jump
in
a
10-year
contract
and
I
asked
everybody
in
the
room
how
old
their
cell
phone
was,
average
a
cell
phone
age
was
two
to
three
years
at
best
or
actually
at
worst.
Some
of
them
were
like
nine
months
and
one
said
he
changes
it
over
every
12
months.
E
If
that's
the
case
and
technology
is
changing
that
quick
quickly,
then,
if
I
put
these
panels
on,
are
they
outdated
and
they
said
basically,
yes,
they
were
telling
me
that
in
18
months
to
28
months
that
we
would
be
outdated
and
I
said
well.
Are
you
going
to
replace
my
equipment,
so
I
can
get
more
efficiency,
so
I
can
be
instead
of
losing
the
efficiency
of
having
this
large
of
a
farm,
and
they
said
no.
E
It
was
going
to
be
on
me
to
be
able
to
do
that,
so
we're
looking
for
that,
we're
still
watching
it.
I'm
still
trying
to
engage
in
different
people
to
be
able
to
have
something
like
that
and
then,
as
we
do,
our
new
facilities
we've
run
extra
conduits
out
to
the
islands
for
the
same
reason
so
that
later
down
the
road,
we
could
produce
canopies
over
the
parking
lot
and
turn
all
the
parking
lots
into
basically
solar
Farms,
and
so
that
is
one
thing
the
other
is.
E
Are
we
using
EVS
I
usually
get
that
question?
We
are
not
the
ROI.
The
study
has
come
out
that
on
White,
Fleet
and
I
have
a
I
have
a
large
white
flea,
probably
I,
think
we
run
around
150
to
880
vehicles
and
a
White
Fleet
would
essentially
be
anything
from
a
a
Ford
Focus
up
to.
We
have
one
ton
pickups
and
some
Sprinter
bands
things
like
that.
E
If
the
bus,
the
battery
on
a
bus
would
be
so
heavy
and
the
amount
of
in
time
and
energy
is
going
to
take
to
charge
that
overnight
to
be
ready
for
the
next
day.
We
we
need
something
that
is
that
we
can
depend
on
for
our
students
and
we're
not
able
to
be
able
to
send
them
to
San
Angelo
and
then
have
to
pick
up
electricity,
because
the
work's
going
to
work
for
a
bus
is
not
going
to
work
the
same
for
your
Tesla
or,
for
you
know,
a
ravani,
or
something
like
that.
E
E
And
so
we
we
talked
about
it,
so
we're
still
looking
into
it
and
trying
to
be
prepared
and
ready
to
use
that
in
the
future,
I
feel
it
is
going
to
be
here,
it'll
something
I
like
the
ROI
on
our
maintenance
for
the
vehicles
and
with
having
55
square
miles.
It
makes
sense
that
most
of
my
trucks
are
going
to
be
within
that,
but
our
buses,
don't
always
do
the
same
thing.
So
we're
keeping
an
eye
on
that
piece
and
being
trying
to
be
ready.
E
I
think
that
is
outside
that
the
only
piece
too
and
I
don't
know.
If
this
is
up
you
guys
alley
or
not,
but
one
thing
I
wanted
to
share
is
we
are
starting
to
look
into
I
talked
about
Rosie
and
the
you
know
Rosie
and
The
Jetsons
and
The
Fifth,
Element
kind
of
analogy
in
the
beginning.
We're
starting
to
utilize
technology
like
that
too,
in
efficiency
in
Human
Resources
is,
is
important
and
I
feel
and
trying
to
provide
well-being
for
our
staff.
E
As
is
many
of
these
other
things
that
we
were
talking
about
and
I
I
read,
some
of
your
Charter
and
I
felt.
This
is
why
I
wanted
to
bring
this
up
as
as
well
we're
starting
to
utilize
autonomous
equipment.
I
have
two
autonomous
scrubbers
in
two
of
our
buildings.
Again
bullets
before
cannonballs,
we
were
testing
those
out.
We
want
to
see
how
well
that
would
work.
The
biggest
issue
we
had.
E
Is
it
scared
a
lot
of
our
staff
at
the
beginning,
of
course,
they
thought
it
was
going
to
take
their
job,
but
once
we
showed
that
they
could,
and
they
were
also
scared
of
the
technology,
they
weren't
sure
that
they
could
run
that.
So
my
custodians
feeling
that
this
was
something
so
technology
technological.
E
It
was
something
that
they
were
concerned
that
they
would
even
be
able
to
I've
got
some
that
may
not
be
able
to
read,
and
so
they
didn't
think
I
can't
do
that
I'm
going
to
lose
my
job,
because
you're
going
to
expect
me
to
operate
that
the
difference
was
that
no,
that
wasn't
the
case
and
they've
now
learned
that
that
is
I'm.
Bringing
things
like
that
into
augment
to
help
us
during
covert
we
were
down,
so
my
staff
was.
We
were
about
60
at
one
point:
61
and
bacon
I'm.
E
Sorry,
the
other
way
I
had
61
of
my
staff,
the
rest
of
I
had
in
vacancy.
We
lost
that
many
staff,
so
we
were
still
having
to
expect
or
expected
to
clean
our
buildings
and
do
high-level
sanitization
during
that
time.
So
we
we
had
to
lean
on
our
equipment
and
Technology.
On
that
we
started
using
backpacks
into
electrostatic
sanitization,
the
autonomous
scrubbers.
They
could
drive
them
program
them
and
let
them
do
the
cleaning
and
clean
all
the
hallways.
We
also
use
what
in
buildings
so
for
our
environment
to
clean
it.
E
We
use
it
on
our
HVAC
and
it's
called
bipolar
ionization.
It
sounds
like
magic
and
I.
Really,
when
the
first
time
I
read
this
I
thought
they
were
just.
You
know
it
was
Hocus
Pocus,
but
it
actually
was
invented
by
Einstein
his
sister
suffered
from
TB
or
something
over
the
lungs,
but
when
she
would
go
to
Sweden
it
lightened
up
and
things
work
better,
he
studied
it
and
found
out.
Basically,
it's
the
concept
of
bipolar
ionization.
It
is
negatively
charging
the
the
air
molecules.
It
goes
out.
It
collects
them.
E
They
everything
at
the
time
too.
The
company
we
were
using
was
trying
to
get
their
covid
testing
La
approved,
so
they
couldn't
say
that
they
were,
but
as
we
found
later,
yes,
the
research
came
out
and
it
could
help
kill
that,
because
it
kills
everything
else
TB,
it
kills
MRSA
everything
else,
I'm,
usually
fighting
Ebola.
It
kills
all
that
in
the
environment,
and
so
we
actually
have
that
attached
onto
our
HVAC
and
as
we
move
forward,
we'll
be
doing
more
of
that
as
well
and
here's
another
one
to
save
on
time.
E
I
know
this
is
probably
everybody's
crazy
thing,
but
I
have
an
autonomous
striper.
We
have
a
GPS
head.
We
look
at
the
field.
It
takes
one
guy
to
throw
the
thing
on
the
ground,
fill
it
full
of
five
gallons
of
paint.
He
selects
what
field
we
want.
Is
it
a
rugby
lacrosse
soccer
football
he
hits
go,
has
to
fill
it
twice.
One
guy
can
do
a
field
in
45
minutes
now,
where
it
used
to
take
to
set
it
up.
E
It
used
to
take
four
guys,
two
hours
to
to
make
sure
that
it
was
nice
and
clean
and
straight,
and
so
now
I've
just
gained
a
lot
of
back
in
my
Personnel.
So
that
is
basically
what
I
wanted
to
bring
to
you
today.
I
hope
that
that
helps
give
you
kind
of
some
insight
and
I'm
more
willing
to
open
up
for
questions.
F
Well,
this
this
is
John
when
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
when
I,
when
I
met,
Josh
I
we're
having
a
bond
issue
out
here
in
HEB
and
not
that
I
was
I'd
learned
from
a
friend
of
mine,
because
I
haven't
really
been.
You
know
involved
in
school
in
a
long
time,
because
you
know
my
daughter's,
you
know
40
years
old
and
anyway,
I
was
like.
Why
aren't
they
thinking
about?
You
know?
Why
aren't
they
thinking
about
geothermal?
F
F
You
know
analogy
so:
I
just
thought:
you're
such
a
well-rounded
person
and
having
that
kid
look
with
the
with
the
LEDs,
because
I
again
I'm
me,
you
know
I'm
I'm,
raising
an
eight-year-old
and
she's
back.
You
know
now
I'm
back
in
school
a
little
bit
and
you
know
she
does
have
ADHD
and
the
the
calming
of
the
lights
does
make
a
huge
difference.
So
I
I'm,
very
impressed
I'm,
also
very
impressed
with
you
Josh,
because
you're
saving
me
money
as
a
taxpayer
so
anyway.
F
G
Josh,
it's
an
excellent
presentation.
It's
really
close
to
my
heart,
because
I
do
research
on
all
these
things.
I
had
solar
panels
for
more
than
a
decade.
I
did
research
on
putting
geothermal
on
my
house
again,
it's
at
residential
level,
not
at
a
commercial
level,
but
one
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
Is
the
solar?
Like
you
know,
so
the
research
you
did
in
terms
of
investing
in
solar
panels.
The
one
thing
you
talked
about
is
where
to
store
that
energy.
G
We
are
at,
like
you
know,
so,
really
at
a
cutting
edge
of
how
much
efficient
it
can
be.
It's
a
35
or
something
with
drastic
changes.
It
cannot
go
up,
but
the
reason
I'm
mentioning
that
is
I
mean
you
should
have.
You
might
have
already
done
the
research
year
over
year.
There
won't
be
that
much
difference
in
terms
of
technology
in
terms
of
solar
panels.
One
thing
that
makes
difference
is
solar
plants
last
for
about
30
years
or
40
years.
G
Even
that
means
you
need
to
have
a
good
company
to
back
up
in
case
you
know.
So
there
are
any
warrant
issues
or
something
in
that
regards.
It
is
beneficial
to
tie
up
with
somebody
who
has
long
history,
but
in
terms
of
technology,
I,
don't
think
there
is
much
of
an
what
call
impact
on
waiting
longer.
E
E
It
sounds
strange,
but
I've
contracted
out
a
certain
x
amount
and
what's
crazy
is
if
I
don't
spend
enough
I
actually
get
a
penalty
if
I
spend
over
that,
then
I
get
another
penalty,
so
you're
sitting
here,
trying
to
set
within
a
window
and
and
I
always
use
I,
didn't
I,
didn't
say
today,
but
typically
I
talk
about
the
the
hot
dog
balloon.
If
I
squeeze
on
one
end,
so
I
start
by
reduction,
then
I've
got
to
think
about
what
the
transfer
of
that
is
somewhere
else
in
our
budget.
E
I
talk
about
how
we,
what
we're
doing
with
HVAC,
but
the
problem
is
my
guys
started
freaking
out
in
the
HVAC
because
they
used
to
buy
a
motor
for
35
or
75.
Well,
now
that
motor
is
350
because
and
they're,
they
think
home
that
we're
spinning
we're
just
blowing
things
up,
I'm
trying
to
explain
to
them
like
it
we're
seeing
Millions
on
savings
here
and
you're,
seeing
hundreds
of
increase
on
a
part
I
said:
I
get
it,
but
I
need
you
to
understand.
It's
that
balloon
that
I'm,
squeezing
that
we're
trying
to
do
that.
E
A
A
H
H
That
is
the
big
issue
in
all
institutions
because,
and
especially
I
mean
every
home
we
use,
but
it
is
and
I
keep
collecting
batteries
and
it's
it's
kind
of
challenging
to
find
a
real
place
to
dispose
these
ones
and
a
lot
of
people
just
put
on
the
in
the
trash
which
is
terrible.
So
what
are
you
doing
in
terms
of
that.
H
E
Most
of
our
batteries
are
are
not
necessarily
rechargeable,
there's
a
little
bit
of
caveat
to
that.
So
on
Commercial,
like
all
of
our
fire
panels,
they
have
a
kind
of
a
battery
that
looks
like
you
might
see
in
a
a
little
tight
vehicle
or
something
like
that,
and
so
those
they're
actually
being
they
are
being
charged
trickle
charged
through
this,
the
power
of
the
the
building,
and
so
when
those
when
we're
disposing
that
we
have
a
company
that
we
send
those
out
to
the
rest
of
the
batteries.
E
We
really
don't
have
a
great
deal
of
other
ones.
Some
we
have
some
exit,
Light
Signs,
but
we're
trying
to
switch
those
over
to
where
they're,
just
direct
feed
and
they're,
not
on
that
I
have
emergency
lighting
and-
and
so
in
that
case
too,
we're
also
shifting
off
of
batteries
and
the
new
buildings.
There's
a
new
code
requirement
for
for
schools
in
Texas
and
then,
as
we
have
to
have
a
storm
shelter
that
will
provide
the
for
the
entire
occupancy
of
the
building
plus
a
little
extra,
and
you
can
see
that
about.
E
E
We
decided
to
go
ahead
and
jump
over
to
generators
and
be
able
to
put
those
in
because
I've
lost
power
on
buildings
and
had
the
generator
that
was
there
and
the
way
we
have
picked
up
all
of
the
office,
all
the
emergency
lights
and
the
freezers
coolers
to
assure
we
don't
lose
food
in
doing
so.
The
school
never
even
knew
they
lost
power
because
we
have
the
LEDs
that
dimmed
down,
and
so
they
never
saw
that.
E
So
we
don't
use
batteries
on
that,
whereas
some
of
the
other
districts
are
going
to
that
we've
been
told
we're
a
little
different
than
that
Northwest
ISD
is,
is
similar
they're
using
generators
as
well,
so
I
try
to
keep
the
batteries
down
to
a
minimum.
That's
something
I
wish.
We
could
find
something
where
we
could
remind
those
batteries
and
get
them.
You
know
back
into
the
new
batteries.
A
A
Good
any
final
question
for
Josh
I've
got
five
pages
of
notes
and
I
did
wanna.
One
of
the
first
things
you
mentioned
was
you
don't
do
green
washing
and
that
struck
a
chord
with
me,
because
one
of
the
four
main
initiatives
for
climate
reality
project
going
forward
is
to
really
confront
green
washing
and
it's
it's
pretty
rampant
out
there.
A
lot
of
organizations
are
are
claiming
to
do
quite
a
bit,
but
what
they're
actually
doing
is
different,
so
that
definitely
struck
a
chord
with
me.
A
So
that's
about
all
I
had
any
final
question
for
Josh.
Before
we
move
on,
we
certainly
appreciate
it
was
a
wonderful
talk
with,
like
I
said:
I've
got
I'm
on
my
fifth
page
of
notes
and
a
lot
of
Rich
content
there
and
thank
you
John
for
for
connecting
with
with
Josh
any
last
question,
for
we
have
something
from
Beth
about
maybe
our
other
school
systems
as
Forward
Thinking
and
conscientious
As
You
Are.
E
I
know:
there's
there's
certain
districts,
I
work
with,
obviously
more
than
others
and
I
would
say:
they're,
probably
the
ones
who
are
who
are
thinking
that
way.
What
I
like
to
see
is
a
whole
system.
Do
that
versus,
like
I,
said,
going
back
to
the
conversation
of
you
have
that
energy
code,
it's
conversation,
and
they
do
things
just
to
make
it
make
themselves
legal
on
that.
What
we
want
to
see
is
we
want
to
see
people
try
to
do,
go
exceed
that
as
a
whole
as
across
their
entire
District.
E
Don't
do
just
one
one
system
at
one
school
and
then
you
don't
do
that
at
another.
I
know,
there's
a
pro
a
good
five
or
six
that
that
are
doing
it's
kind
of
a
competition
between
us
to
see.
Who
can
you
know
who
can
get
the
lowest
square
foot
costs,
and
things
like
that?
We
do
have
benchmarking
across
the
state
as
well
to
try
to
help
with
low
kick
debt
and
and
generate
other
ideas
to
be
able
to
help
other
districts,
and
that
is
one
thing.
E
That's
different
about
school
districts
is
we're
not
like
in
the
case
of
businesses
and
you're
competitive.
The
other
day
yesterday,
I
turned
my
whole
process
manual
over
to
a
district
South
in
South
Texas,
because
they
were
they're
suffering
and
they
were
needing
some
help
with
their
processes.
We
we
don't
mind
doing
that.
It's
a
little
bit
different
than
having
a
business
and
you're
that
you're
competing
against.
F
Thank
you.
I
want
to
I,
want
to
say
one
more
thing
about
something
about
electric
buses,
because
you
know
I
worked
at
Dart
Patricia's
work
at
Dart.
You
know
the
electric
buses
right
now,
they're,
so
heavy
you
know
yeah
you'll
get
you
know.
Maintenance
is
a
lot
less,
but
the
the
heaviness
and
the
ability
to
charge
them
are
it's
just
not
there.
Yet,
in
my
opinion
and
I
know,
everybody
wants
to
go
to
electricity
because
I
think
diesels.
F
You
know
killing
the
kids
which
you
know
it
isn't
a
good
thing,
because
you
know
there
is
a
lot
of
particulates.
You
know.
However,
you
know
until
the
the
battery
like
dark
has
a
downtown.
You
know
circulator
system
and
they
have
to
have
three,
but
just
because
they
only
have
a
17
Mile
range
and
if
you're
running
a
a
school
route,
you're
going
to
have
a
you
know,
50
to
100
to
120
mile
range,
and
you
need
to
be
able
to
do
that.
Aren't
you
going
to
do
that?
A
A
A
I
I
Such
massive
Devastation
of
intelligent
life
is
too
painful
to
watch
more
than
our
hearts
can
bear.
Meanwhile,
a
very
different
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