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From YouTube: Jan 2022 Chapter Meeting: Activism Through Food
Description
In our first meeting of the year, we welcome Robert Egger to talk about "Activism Through Food".
Robert Egger is a power of food pioneer. Starting in 1989, he has led the effort to reduce food waste, and create jobs while producing healthy meals. He has also been involved in policy initiatives, like the Food Donor Act of 1996, which incentivized food donations nationally. Robert will talk about his journey, but also expound on the road ahead, and how climate issues, aging and public health will overlap.
A
B
B
He
puts
anything
in
spin,
papa
eating,
fresh
popcorn
and
flying
in
the
magic
world
and
cartoon
land
hill
banana.
My
aunt
brought
them
in
nam
demon
market
in
the
winter.
When
I
get
in
high
fever,
my
mother
brings
out
a
cold
peach.
Can
from
the
attic
feeds
me
heals
everything
when
I
put
my
hair
down
and
get
my
massage.
B
C
A
A
Officially
he's
I'll,
read
it
a
power
food
pioneer,
an
originator
of
the
community
kitchen
movement,
he's
led
efforts
to
reduce
food
waste
and
create
jobs
while
producing
healthy
meals,
as
well
as
being
involved
in
policy
initiatives.
The
food
donor
act
of
1996,
for
instance,
which
incentivized
food
donations
nationally.
A
He
founded
washington,
dc
central
kitchen,
the
campus
kitchen
project
and
the
la
kitchen
where
I
met
him
and
you
can
google
his
dozens
of
awards
and
recognition
of
his
work
ideas.
What
you
may
not
find
online,
however,
is
how
the
training
at
his
kitchens
provided
passports
for
men
and
women
out
of
risky
lifestyles
with
few
choices.
A
A
Imagine
for
a
moment
the
delighted,
surprise
and
relief
expressed
by
the
impoverished
seniors
livering
living
in
food
deserts
as
I
was
privileged
to
witness
so
when
they
received
delicious
healthy
food
from
the
community
kitchen,
instead
of
their
cheap,
fast
food
that
they
were
relegated
to.
So
with
great
pleasure,
I
give
you
robert
egger.
D
Well,
thank
you,
my
dear
friend
maureen,
it's
a
joy
to
see
you
richard
thanks
for
making
this
happen
and
again
my
best
wishes
to
everybody
there.
I
am,
as
I
alluded
to
earlier.
I
am
speaking
to
you
all
from
new
mexico,
the
epicenter
of
the
puebloan
culture,
primarily
the
kiwa
and
tiwa
peoples,
matriarchal
societies
and
again
I
think
one
of
the
richest
food
cultures
in
america.
D
But
it's
been
an
epically,
interesting
journey
from
washington
dc,
where
I
was
really
raised
and
spent
my
adult
years
and
then
los
angeles,
where
I
really
tried
to
be
a
pioneer
in
senior
nutrition.
But
it's
interesting
because
I
always
wanted
to
open
a
nightclub.
That
was
always
my
great
great
dream
and
passion,
and
it
wasn't
because
again
it
wasn't
about
you
know
kind
of
a
rebellious
lifestyle.
D
It
was
because,
as
a
young
man,
I
came
up
in
the
1960s
and
I
apologize
in
advance
to
some
of
you
younger
people
who
don't
particularly
want
to
hear
boomers,
wax
poetic
about
their
golden
youth.
But
it
was
a
a
time
very,
very
troublesome
time
I
mean,
and
again
I
was
10
years
old
in
1968
when
dr
king,
whose
birthday
it
is
today,
was
murdered
in
memphis
and
then
two
months
later
bobby
kennedy,
in
los
angeles
and
beyond
that
we
had
a
you
know
a
war
in
vietnam,
racial.
D
You
know
the
same.
Sadly,
some
of
the
same
things
that
are
going
on
now,
but
anyway
I
I
was
troubled
by
the
fact
that
these
two
young
men
in
particular,
had
been
murdered
because
when
you're
a
kid
and
you're
you're
relatively
innocent-
and
you
hear
young
men
or
women
leaders
talking
about
racial
justice,
gender
equality,
you
know
economic
opportunity,
it
seems
like
civics
101.
D
Artists
were
talking
about
these
things
and
and
somehow
when,
when,
when
an
artist
or
a
musician
spoke
about
the
very
same
issues,
people
heard
it.
So
I
really
lit
on
the
idea
of
a
nightclub
because,
as
a
as
a
person
who
I
always
felt
at
a
very
early
age,
I
knew
I
wanted
to
be
involved
in
social
change.
D
E
D
E
D
That
just
kind
of
logged
in
the
back
of
my
head,
that's
just
a
bit
of
information.
Yet
one
night
I
was
asked
by
friends
to
go
out
and
accompany
them
to
serve
people
who
were
sleeping
on
the
streets
of
washington
dc.
Tragically,
I
think
for
some
of
you,
younger
people,
you've
grown
up
seeing
homelessness
as
kind
of
an
omnipresent
part
of
the
american
landscape,
and
it
wasn't
always
that
way,
not
because
homeless
people
didn't
exist.
D
It's
just
that
the
the
law
enforcement
had
the
ability
to
roust
people
if
they
didn't
particularly
like
the
way
they
looked
or
where
they
chose
to
bed
down
for
the
night,
but
in
the
1980s
people
started
to
because
laws
change
in
washington
dc
in
particular,
and
and
more
poignantly
in
front
of
the
white
house
in
front
of
the
world
bank
in
in
nearby
all
of
the
kind
of
symbols
of
our
country's
history
and
promise
there
were
people
sleeping
outside.
So
I
went
out
one
night
again,
I'll
be
honest
with
you
too.
D
D
But,
more
importantly,
when
I
pulled
up
on
the
specific
night,
it
was
raining
in
washington,
d.c,
and
here
I
was
in
a
warm
truck
serving
people
who
are
standing
outside
in
the
rain
waiting
for
another
group
of
people
with
the
best
of
intentions
in
this
volunteer
truck
to
come
out
and
serve
them,
and
I
was
struck
because,
while
I
knew
it
was
historic,
I
knew
it
was
time
honored.
I
knew
it
was
full
of
loving
intent.
D
It
still
was
based
on
the
redemption
of
the
giver
me
not
the
liberation
of
the
receiver,
and
that
really
struck
me
that
while
this
was
again
time
honored,
there
was
a
flaw,
a
deep
flaw
in
it.
So
on
the
way
home,
I
I
propose
to
my
fiancee
and
my
long
time.
Wife,
claudia
you
know
if
somebody
could
just
go
to
the
restaurants
and
the
hotels
and
all
these
different
places
and
offer
them
a
safe
alternative
to
throwing
food
away.
D
I
bet
they'd
love
the
restaurant
people
don't
like
throwing
away
food,
they
just
don't
want
to
be
sued.
So
that
was
one
part,
but
I
thought
you
know
we
should
offer
men
and
women
a
chance
to
come
in
out
of
the
rain
and
be
part
of
the
solution.
Instead
of
you
know,
perennial
recipients
of
well-intended
charity.
D
Now.
I
oftentimes
do
this
long-winded
and
I'm
gonna
only
talk
for
20
or
30
minutes
and
open
it
up,
but
I
do
that
because
you
know
what
I
was
doing
was
challenging
the
orthodoxy
of
the
system
as
it
existed
now
I
naively
went
to
all
the
different
charities
in
washington
dc,
who
were
either
doing
food
or
working
with
the
homeless.
D
D
Yet
sometimes,
when
you
try
to
enlist
those
colleagues,
you
find
that
they
are
resistant
and
that's
what
I
found
I
I
was
a
young
enthusiast
and-
and
you
know
again,
a
full
heart
full
of
love
and
expected
that
I
would
go
in
and
and
basically
drop
off,
a
well-written
business
plan
that
explained
fully
how
they
could
do
this
and
then
I'd
go
back
to
running
nightclubs,
but,
to
my
chagrin,
every
single
group.
I
went
to
made
it
over
effort
to
shoot
down
my
idea.
D
Oh
restaurants,
won't
donate
food,
it's
illegal,
it's
like
no,
it's
not!
It's
never
been
illegal.
That's
an
urban
myth!
You
know,
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
all
maybe
worked
in
restaurants
in
your
life
or
worked
in
food
service,
but
there
was,
I
heard
over
and
over.
Oh
restaurants
won't
hire
people
who
were
addicts
or
out
of
prison
or,
and
I'm
like
you've
never
worked
in
a
restaurant.
Restaurant
kitchens
are
the
island
of
misfit
toys.
D
It's
the
most
welcoming
environment,
but
anyway
I
reached
a
point
and
I'm
sure
many
of
you
all
have
been
there,
where
I
had
to
make
a
decision
in
my
life,
which
was
the
road
split,
and
there
wasn't
a
sign
that
said:
polka,
dots
and
moon
beams.
That
way,
I
turn
back.
If
I
were
you
that
way,
I
really
felt
like
I
was
born
to
open
the
greatest
nightclub
in
the
world,
but
I
was.
D
I
was
convinced
that
these
men
and
women,
while
they
were
understandably
confused
by
the
the
seeming
kind
of
wild
rubik's
cube
of
getting
food
from
restaurants,
training
people
for
jobs
and
feeding
the
community
better
meals.
It
wasn't
that
hard
and
I
figured
I'll
get
it
set
up
and
go
back
to
running
nightclubs.
D
D
Central
kitchen
we've
done
another
100
million
meals,
but
they've
all
been
based
on
kind
of
a
a
trojan
horse
construct,
and
that's
what
I
wanted
to
talk
with
you
a
little
bit
about,
because
you
know
when
you're
trying
to
convince
people-
and
it
could
be
just
your
friends-
it
could
be
your
colleagues,
it
could
be
elected
people,
it
could
be
corporate
partners
about
some
of
the
issues
we're
facing.
It
can
be
very
daunting.
D
You
know
most
people
in
america
and
most
people
around
the
world
are
actually
quite
kind
and
very
open-minded,
but
the
majority
of
people
still
are
burdened
by
fear.
I've
become
a
student
of
fear
in
my
old
age.
In
fact,
I've
often
said
to
people.
I
don't
run
a
non-profit.
I
run
I'm
in
the
bravery
business.
It's
my
job
to
make
people
brave
enough
to
feel
like.
I
can
overcome
a
past
that
might
seem
checkered
to
some
and
embrace
a
new
lifestyle
brave
on
the
part
of
restaurateurs
will
say.
D
You
know
what
I
will
donate
that
food.
I'm
not
worried
about
liability
because
there's
all
kinds
of
different
ways,
but,
more
importantly,
it's
more
important
to
risk.
If
I
can
help
liberate
somebody,
but
you
know
what
what
I
really
got
into
was
this
idea
of
how
many
people
who
have
to
volunteer
in
america,
particularly
a
younger
generation?
Almost
120
million
strong
who've
been
raised
doing
service.
D
Imagine
if,
through
that
act
of
service,
they
could
come
in
and
by
working
right
next
to
somebody
you
know
the
models
I
embraced
were
tried
to
take
away
the
false
barrier
of
a
table
that
oftentimes
separated
a
volunteer
who
was
serving
someone
who
was
on
the
other
side
of
the
table
who
was
in
line?
I
wanted
to
erase
that
barrier
and
get
everybody
around
the
same
side
saying
in
effect,
you
know
you
could
be
someone
who's
been
20
30
years
away
in
prison.
D
D
That
was
always
our
model,
but
at
the
same
time
I've
also
been
a
a
kind
of
a
futurist
for
a
lack
of
a
better
word
and
someone
who
practices
probability.
And
this
is
how
maureen
and
I
met,
because
you
know
there's
two
great
concerns
in
my
world
and
they
overlap
with
yours.
One
is
that,
for
a
variety
of
different
reasons,
the
amount
of
food
we
waste
in
america,
which
is
still
tragically
high,
is
dissipating.
D
You
know
all
food
that
goes
to
a
food
bank,
a
pantry,
that's
lost
profit,
it
represents
something
that
was
grown.
Something
was
processed,
something
was
manufactured,
something
was
cooked
and
for
a
million
different
reasons,
it
couldn't
be
sold.
So
it
was
donated
to
charity,
but
what
we're
seeing
now
through
climate
change,
to
inventory,
controls
to
alternate
markets,
the
amount
of
food
that
goes
to
charity
is
decreasing,
while
at
the
same
time,
the
number
of
people
who
find
themselves
in
need
of
some
kind
of
assistance
because
of
economics
and
poor
wage.
Because
of
immigration.
D
Because
of
a
wide
variety
of
issues,
the
number
of
people
are
getting
who
are
in
need
of.
Some
support
is
growing,
so
you
have
supply
demand
and
that
really
led
me
to
a
very
interesting
pathway,
in
particular
when
it
comes
to
our
elders,
because
globally,
one
of
the
most
interesting
issues
that
face
us
beyond
climate
change
is
aging
globally.
D
There
is
no
precedent
for
the
number
of
people
who
are
going
to
live
10
15
20
years
longer
than
their
parents
did,
and
because
we're
a
throwaway
culture,
not
just
in
america,
but
in
many
countries
we
have
a
sense
of
if
it's
old,
if
it's
wrinkled,
if
it
bruised
throw
it
away,
and
that
idea
of
that
I
embraced
both
with
food
and
people.
Wrinkled
food,
wrinkled
people,
no
waste.
D
That
idea
of
trying
to
say,
there's
gold
in
old,
you
know,
and
could
we
actually
approach
aging
as
a
rejuvenative
process
and
a
new
way
to
embrace
the
idea
of
what
does
it
mean
to
be
old
in
america?
How
do
we
create
a
more
inclusive
society
and
sisters?
As
you
all
probably
know,
women
outlive
men,
women
outnumber
men.
Aging
is
a
me
too
moment
in
which
a
whole
generation
of
women,
I
hope,
are
clamoring
for
the
moment
of
pushback,
where
they
say
I
might
be
old.
D
I
might
have
wrinkles,
I
might
have
gray
hair,
but
I
will
I
will
beat
the
person
who
tells
me,
I'm
not
beautiful,
you
know,
and
that
idea
of
this
rev
you
know
revolution
against
the
beauty
myth.
I
was
very
interested
in
that.
So
that's
why
I
went
to
los
angeles
this
idea
of
being
able
to
access
the
most
amazing
supply
of
fruits
and
vegetables.
D
D
You
know,
in
fact,
I've
been
intrigued
over
the
past
few
years
and
I
and
I
wrote
an
article
that
maybe
maureen
or
richard
somebody
can
maybe
find
a
link
to
it
in
civil,
eats
talking
about
the
revolutionary
power
of
food
that
mahatma
gandhi
used.
Salt
plain
table
salt
to
get
the
british
to
the
negotiating
table.
Cesar
chavez
used
the
table
grape
to
get
land
owners
in
california
to
negotiate.
D
You
know
a
nutrition
nutritional
rights
aging
in
america,
farming
in
the
future.
Yet
to
my
way
of
thinking,
no
one's
really
stopped
and
said:
wow
food
is
probably
the
most
powerful
political
organizing
tool
there
is,
and
yet
it's
never
been
used
to
say
to
all
the
just
all
the
different
activist
groups,
maybe
maybe
after
decades
of
trying
to
get
americans
to
hear
about
hunger,
homelessness,
poverty,
climate,
wage
with
checkered
results,
we've
done
well,
but
not
the
level.
We
know
we
need
to
be.
Is
there
another
tactic?
D
D
You
know
there
are
those
who
would
pit
generations
against
one
another.
Would
say
to
young
people,
man,
those
baby
boomers,
messed
up
your
world
hate
on
those
baby,
boomers,
they're,
evil,
people
and
they're.
Just
conversely,
there's
a
loan
there's
a
whole
lot
of
people
say:
oh
baby
boomers
man
look
at
those
millennials
man,
those
people
snowflakes
every
single
one
of
them.
That's
the
devil.
Talking
bobby
boucher!
D
The
power
is
the
opportunity
to
use
these
tools
to
elect
a
generation
who
show
up
on
day
one
as
allies
to
us
and
I'm
going
to
put
one
more
bug
in
here
before
I.
I
close
this
and
open
it
up
and
see
if
you
all
want
to
talk
about
whatever
you
want
to
talk
about,
but
I'm
a
big
believer
that
you
go
to
dallas
and
I've
spent
a
huge
amount
of
time.
I
worked
with
the
north
north
dallas
food
bank,
tarrant
county
food
bank.
I've
been
all
over
the
state
of
texas
and
I'll,
tell
you.
D
It
doesn't
matter
where
it
doesn't
matter
where
you
go
in
texas
or
any
place
in
america.
Non-Profits
non-profit
organizations
are
the
third
biggest
employer
in
america
we
are.
We
have
almost
14
million
voting
employees
and
we
control
the
energy
of
60
million
people
who
volunteer
every
single
year.
We
have
almost
300
billion
in
annual
revenue
and
almost
2
trillion
in
net
and
net
resources.
D
Yet
we
don't
have
a
say
in
the
smallest
town's
budget
process.
We
are
the
feminized
part
of
the
american
economy,
70
of
those
who
run
or
founded
or
volunteer
at
nonprofits
or
women.
Yet
this
amazing,
dynamic,
rich
important
part
of
the
american
economy
has
been
told
that
all
you
do
is
good
deeds
and
that,
while
your
work
is
nice,
the
only
eligible
funds,
your
the
only
funds
you're
eligible
for
is
money
money
af
left
over.
D
All
we're
eligible
for
is
a
little
bit
of
what's
left
over
from
the
profits
we
enable
through
our
work
every
single
day,
and
I
would
urge
you
all
to
ponder
the
role
that
we
should
be
playing
in
the
political
process,
including
what
we
already
are
allowed
to
do
via
advocacy,
which
I'm
sure
you
all
are
tenacious
I've.
Seen
pictures
of
you
all
in
front
of
the
the
federal
reserve
and
a
variety
of
other
places.
D
I
know
you
all
know
how
to
get
it
on,
but
that
idea
of
that
coalition
it's
going
to
take
to
get
where
we
need
to
go
a
coalition
of
nonprofits
and
a
coalition
of
generations
and
that's
the
kind
of
work
that
inspires
me
in
a
big
fat
way
as
we
go
forward.
So
I
hope
that
this
short,
but
I
hope,
passionate
presentation
has
been
somewhat
entertaining
and
I
will
open
it
up
and
answer
to
my
best
of
my
abilities.
Any
questions
you
all
might
have.
E
As
perhaps
I
was,
but
so
we're.
The
good
news
is
here,
we're
living
it
and
embodying
it,
and
that's
wonderful,
and
one
thing
I
recently
learned
about
is
an
organization
called
the
modern
elder
academy,
if
you've
ever
heard
about
it,
which
is
relevant
to
some
of
this
audience
here.
But
the
idea
that
yeah
your
best
years
are
ahead
of
you.
And
what
do
you
do
to
come
from
midlife
and
to
have
your
best
years
and
have
your
most
impact
whatever
it
is,
and
this
notion
of
being
a
mentor
and
an
intern
meaning?
E
D
Well,
michael,
thank
you.
I
I'll
be
honest
with
you.
I
also
noticed
you
were
putting
out
a
lot
of
very
I
sound
too
new
mexican,
but
you
were
putting
out
a
lot
of
really
good
energy
and
I
I
just
really
appreciated
the
reaction
you
were
giving
me.
While
I
was
making
my
presentation
and
chip
connolly,
who
runs
the
the
modern
elder
academy,
they're,
really
their
neighbors.
D
Yeah
so
I
see
them
quite
a
bit,
but
I
am
very
interested
in
that.
You
know
because
it's
it's
not
just
from
a
humane
point
of
view,
the
from
for
you
younger
people
in
the
audience
you
know,
keeping
an
older
generation
staying,
productive
and
living
independently
is
probably
one
of
the
greatest
economic
issues
facing
our
country,
it's
profound.
D
So
at
the
same
time,
every
single
morning
in
america,
10
000
people
turn
70
every
single
morning.
That's
going
to
go
on
for
the
next
18
years,
71
72,
but
you
got
to
figure,
as
I
alluded
to
earlier,
with
dr
king
and
bobby
kennedy.
But
let's
take
it
back
to
sly,
stone.
You
know,
marvin
gaye,
you
know,
there's
a
thousand
people
that
influenced
us
and
I
always
I
gotta
figure.
Personally,
it's
a
wonder.
D
D
They
have
material
possessions,
but
they
feel
like
there's
something
still
missing
and
that's
our
opportunity
because
there's
an
army
of
people
who
it's
not
like,
let's
go
back
and
pretend
it's
1960
again,
but
let's
go
back
and
embrace
that
sense
of
activism
and
and
enthusiasm
for
life
and
purpose,
and
that
sense
of
it's
still
not
too
late
to
make
a
big
giant
difference
in
the
world.
So
I'm
with
you
michael,
I
always
consider
myself
now
at
this
stage
I
am
a
dedicated
elder
ally.
D
There's
only
one
way
a
younger
generation
is
going
to
really
catch
that
brass
ring
and
that's
if
they,
if
many
more
people
of
our
generation,
are
willing
to
take
a
knee
and
say
get
up
on
my
shoulders.
It's
your
time
use
my
shoulders
anyway.
Thank
you,
michael.
I
appreciate
your
your
kind
words
lisa.
B
C
E
Yes,
they
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
did
in
your
working
on
food
issues.
Has
the
the
climate
change
effect
on
the
nutritional
content
of
food,
the
the
the
climate,
the
climate
change
causing
agricultural
regions
to
shift?
Has
that
come
into
consciousness
and
the
few
food
communities
and
in
the
in
the
the
feeding
communities
where
they're
they're,
seeing
climate
impacts
affecting
availability,
because
of
or
and
or
the
nutritional
content
of,
the
the
food
itself.
D
Wow
craig,
you
really
hit
a
big
giant
spike
on
the
head
with
that
one,
I'm
going
to
be
honest
with
you.
I
mean
this
with
love,
but
some
of
my
colleagues
in
the
business
side
that
I
am
in
the
food
in
particular,
but
feeding
they
see
themselves
less
they're,
they're,
less
activists
and
more
food
distributors.
D
So
I
you
know,
I've
never
wanted
to
be
a
nutritional,
imperialist
who
comes
in
and
tells
people
what
I
think
they
should
eat.
You
know
so
the
idea,
let's
work
together,
but
I'm
going
to
touch
on
something
that
is
really
profound,
which
is
my
work
with
jose
in
world
central
kitchen,
because
it
was
really
based
on
climate
disaster.
D
So
our
model
was
when
we
go
into
puerto
rico:
haiti,
guatemala,
dominican
republic.
You
know
the
philippines
currently
buy
local,
hire
local
and
produce
local
foods,
and
that
was
shocking.
That
was
seen
as
a
shot
across
the
bow.
A
lot
of
the
big
international
aid
groups
were
incredibly
resistant
to
this
idea,
but
what
they
underestimated-
and
I
think
for
many
of
us
as
we
seek
allies.
D
Eight
restaurants,
they've
grown
up,
and
particularly
during
the
pandemic,
seeing
chefs
in
their
own
community
or
international
chefs
like
jose
and
they're
like
I
want
to
be
a
nutritional
activist,
and
these
can
be
powerful
new
allies
and
the
kind
of
allies
that
I
think
a
generation
of
people
who
might
not
listen
to
climate
activists
may
listen
to
a
an
activist
chef.
You
know
what
I
mean
so
jose.
D
It's
been
interesting,
because
what
we're
seeing-
and
this
is
a
big
issue,
particularly
in
border
states-
is
climate
refugees,
and
you
see
the
immediate
impact
of
people
who
are
in
environments
where
there's
been
a
fire
or
a
tornado.
But
what
we're
going
to
we
have
to
anticipate,
particularly
in
the
food
movement,
is
how
do
you
feed
potentially
millions
of
people
who
will
be,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
climate
refugees
who
won't
be
just
leaving
because
the
volcano
erupted
and
once
it
stops
they'll
go
back
home.
D
They
won't
go
back
home
because
there's
no
way
to
make
a
livelihood
in
a
place
that
climate
is
affected.
So
it's
a
profound
issue
and
I
would
just
reiterate
one
in
which
I
think
there's
a
tremendous
opportunity
to
merge
some
of
our
activism
with
the
kind
of
unaccustomed
bedfellows
of
chefs
climate
activists,
ranchers
immigration
experts.
There's
a
great
coalition
waiting
to
be
built.
C
B
Yes,
I
do
hi
robert
as
you
were
speaking.
I
just.
I
just
got
so
curious
about
your
nightclub
because
it
sounds
so
amazing,
so
I
googled
a
little
bit
about
your
nightclub
and
this
particular
article
caught
my
eye
in
one
of
the
articles,
you
said
that
food
became
your
music
and
the
dc
central
kitchen
kitchen
became
your
nightclub
and
your
only
aim
is
to
put
on
a
show
for
everybody.
B
D
Well,
I
appreciate
it
because
you
know
I
I
mentioned
earlier
the
trojan
horse
and
it's
funny
because
I
think
most
people
are
familiar
with
the
legend,
but
it's
important
to
remember
the
trojan
war
was
10
years
long
and
that's
a
long
time.
You
know,
and
it
took
a
younger
person
odysseus
to
come
along
and
say.
Let
me
use
the
wood
that
we've
been
using
the
same
traditional
way
for
10
years.
D
Let
me
try
something
new
and
the
next
day
they
were
in
and
they
got
the
trojans
to
open
the
gates
and
let
them
in
so.
My
attitude
has
always
been
historically
and
for
too
often
our
model
has
been
we're
banging
on
the
door.
Let
us
in
you
know:
we've
got
the
salvation.
Let
us
in
I've
been
interested
in.
How
do
you
get
people
who
are
again
usually
kind
giving
people
but
are
burdened
by
fear
and
they're
holding
the
door
because
they
don't
want
to
deal
with
a
new
idea?
D
How
do
you
get
them
to
open
the
door?
So
again,
my
original
intent
was
music,
but
when
I
opened
the
dc
kitchen,
I
really
underestimated
how
frankly
guilty
americans
were
about
the
amount
of
food
that
was
wasted
and
that
attracted
a
huge.
When
I
opened
dc
kitchen,
a
huge
amount
of
media
came
and
we
opened
up
on
george
bush
seniors
inauguration
day.
Our
first
donor
of
food
was
the
present
united
states.
D
It
was
a
powerful
way
because
a
what
media
outlet
in
the
world
could
resist
that,
and
I
really
decided
then
that
that
was
going
to
be
the
model
I
embraced
was.
While
I
was
going
to
work
every
single
day,
stronger,
faster,
better,
more
efficient,
more
better
impact
that
that
was
only
going
to
be
49
of
my
kind
of
mental
metaphorically,
but
49
of
my
time,
51
was
how
can
the
work
I
do
here?
D
That
is
attracting
attention,
be
part
of
a
bigger
movement
and
I
think,
that's
very
important,
because
too
many
nonprofits
they
focus
on
their
own
survival,
and
I
get
that
it's
important.
But
if
you're
not
part
of
something
bigger,
what
you're
doing
isn't
lending
itself
to
a
bigger
mission.
So,
for
example,
I
alluded
to
it
earlier,
but
we
had
both
the
obamas
and
the
clintons
were
regular
volunteers
and
historically
they
most
first
families
would
go
out
on
thanksgiving
and
serve
poor
people
very,
very
traditional
model.
D
Very
much
the
same
way
I
did
where
I
was
in
a
I
was
a
cross
and
separated
so
that
idea
of
the
president
of
state
standing
next
to
someone
who
had
been
in
prison
and
talking
and
working
side
by
side.
That
is
a
powerful
message
that
was
part
of
what
I
felt
was
this.
This
show,
because
again
I
knew
that
if
the
president
came
down,
I
had
I
had
all
the
media,
all
the
cameras
in
the
world
were
going
to
be
there
that
day.
D
What
was
I
saying
through
those
cameras,
or
was
I
saying
what
too
many
non-profits
do,
and
I
understand
it?
What
was
I
saying?
Look
at
me.
Send
me
a
check.
Give
me
your
money.
Aren't
I
good,
or
was
I
saying,
look
at
the
power
of
community
look
at
what
we
can
achieve
if
we
work
side
by
side.
Those
are
the
kind
of
sometimes
subtle.
Sometimes
you
know
not
so
subtle,
but
those
are
the
kind
of
messages
you
know
I
was
trying
to
send.
D
We
did
social
business
so
one
of
our
models
where
we
were
doing
business
to
do
dc
public
school
food
was
saying
we're
a
non-profit
but
look
we're
buying
food
from
local
farmers
and
instead
of
waiting
for
them
for
their
food
to
be
so
rotten
that
they
give
it
to
us
because
it's
a
charitable
donation.
What
would
it
be
like
if
we
went
out
a
couple
of
days
or
or
even
a
week
or
two
in
advance
and
bought
it
at
a
fair
market
price
and
supported
that
farmer?
D
Instead
of
just
taking
away
his
trash,
we
actually
started
buying
that
food
and
we
could
bring
it
back
and
not
only
could
we
have
a
non-profit
that
got
donations
and
got
donated
food
and
trained
people
for
jobs.
We
could
actually
embrace
social
enterprise
and
start
our
own
businesses
and
actually
employ
some
of
our
graduates
too,
because
of
ageism
or
sometimes
tattoos
or
a
variety
of
other
reasons,
we're
having
a
more
difficult
time.
Finding
a
job.
Imagine
the
power
of
us
saying,
look
yeah
we're
a
non-profit,
but
we
buy
local.
D
We
support
local
farmers,
we
pay
a
fair
wage,
we
keep,
we
hire
men
and
women
home
from
prison,
we
produce
school
food,
we
listen
to
kids
and
we
still
make
enough
money
to
reinvest
profit
back
in
the
nonprofit.
That's
a
powerful
message.
You
know
and
I
think,
if
more
people
who
then
came
to
visit
stopped
and
said
I
didn't
even
know
non-profits
could
make
money.
You
know
I
didn't
know.
Non-Profits
could
do
that.
That
was
a
really
powerful
messages.
D
I'm
a
fiendish
mad
scientist,
I'm
just
instead
of
saying
give
me
one
million
dollars,
I'm
saying
just
come
in
and
volunteer
and
help
me
feed
people
for
a
day,
but
the
joy
is
if
I
can
send
people
out
that
door
thinking
a
new
idea,
that's
probably
has
more
potential
impact
than
all
the
charitable
meals.
I
could
do.
C
They
want
to
hear
okay,
okay,
hi
this
so
when
bob
had
said
that
the
two
main
coalitions
that
are
going
to
change
this
and
turn
it
around
as
non-profits
and
a
coalition
of
generations,
and
the
next
question
was
about
the
coalition
of
generations.
But
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
coalition
part
and
what
I
heard
from
you
correct
me.
C
You
know
if
there's
adding
on
is
the
fact
that
the
elders
are
unhealthy,
they're
going
to
be
a
huge
drain
on
the
economic
system
and
that
to
keep
them
healthy
and
contributing
is
a
huge
economic
challenge
and
that
young
people
are
the
change
makers
and
we
have
to
let
them
in.
But
what
else?
How
else
do
you
see
the
coalition
working.
D
Voting
older
people,
the
most
reliable
voters
there
are,
you
know,
they'll,
show
up
every
single
time.
Younger
people
tend
to
be
big,
big
voters,
you
know
not
midterm
voters,
we
need
midterm
voters.
So
what
I'm
suggesting
is
that
we
have
to
keep
an
older
generation
productive,
which
means
volunteerism,
which
means
activism.
D
So
you
know
we
have
the
opportunity
to
say
to
a
generation
of
elders.
You
can
be
part
of
a
movement
again,
you
can
be
part
of
something
bigger,
you
know,
but
you're,
not
necessarily
in
charge
and
that's
a
big
that's
a
big
bill
for
baby
boomers,
but
also
for
a
younger
generation.
Again
to
say:
look,
you
know,
don't
be,
don't
be,
don't
be
patient
but
be
respectful.
D
You
know
understand
that
it's
it's
hard
for
older
people,
sometimes
to
let
go
to
what
they
know.
But
anyway,
this
a
long-winded
way
of
saying
voting
is
what
it's
all
about.
We
need
to
get
people
active
and
actually,
in
my
opinion,
electing
a
generation
of
people
who
show
up
on
day
one
with
a
full
plate
of
of
things.
D
They're
gonna
do
not
what
we
typically
do,
which
is
we
sadly
non-profits
wait
until
the
board
of
trade
and
business
elect
somebody,
and
then
we
go
in
and
think
it's
our
job
to
educate
them,
and
that's
just
that,
that's
not
working.
We
need
to
help.
We
need
to
elect
educated
people
show
up
on
day.
One.
C
Thanks
for
that
answer,
jim
you've
been
very
patient,
quick
question,
actually
more
of
a
comment
robert.
I
just
wanted
to
say
you
know
we're
a
bunch
of
potential
activists
here
and
I
think
I
was
listening
sometimes
to
your
message
and
sometime
to
your
delivery
and
your
methodology,
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
being
a
great
example
of
of
delivering
not
just
facts
but
but
passion
and
and
education,
and
and
feelings
that
a
lot
of
times.
C
I
think
when
people
are
just
starting
out,
they
get
wound
up
on
the
facts
and
lose
lose
the
other
part
of
the
message,
and
so
just
thanks.
I
mean
I'm
going
to
go
back
and
watch
this
again.
Just
because,
like
I
said,
my
brain
was
flipping
back
and
forth
between
wow
look
at
how
he's
doing
it
as
opposed
to
what
he's
talking
about
so
just
thank
you
just
wanted
to
say
a
quick
thank
you
for
that.
C
Yeah
you're,
the
last
quick
question
from
robert.
Thank
you
sure.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
robert.
I
think,
on
behalf
of
the
chapter
really
thank
you
for
your
your.
You
know
everything
you
do
and
then
talking
to
us
through
the
process.
I
have
a
quick
question,
so
you
know
in
climate
activism
we're
always
struggling
in
terms
of
how
we
can
come
up
with
tangible
items
for
people
to
act
on.
C
D
Give
you
one
quick
thing,
I'm
working
on,
because
it's
actually
kind
of
embarrassing
to
be
quite
honest
with
you,
because
I've
spent
decades
delivering
meal
producing
meals
with
so
much
love,
so
much
intent.
Yet
I
end
up
dropping
them
off
at
a
shelter
or
a
senior
center
and
hope
and
pray
they
deliver
it
with
the
same
kind
of
dignity
and
purpose
that
I
put
into
it.
D
Yet
for
the
most
part,
we
still
when
we
feed
people
in
america.
We
say
kids
over
here
seniors
over
here
and
frankly,
if
you
self-identify
as
poor
and
stand
in
this
line
at
the
pantry,
we'll
give
you
a
box
of
odds
and
ends.
Now
during
the
pandemic,
I
activated
the
local
community
college
and
got
college
students
who
are
in
the
culinary
program
that
were
do
that.
The
school
was
closed.
We
reopened
the
school
and
got
the
nursing
staff
to
get
credit
hours,
developing
the
protocols
and
managing
the
perimeter.
D
Culinary
students
got
credit
hours
producing
meals,
but
we
actually
activate
I'm
looking
at
right
because
they
see
it
outside
my
window.
In
this
little
town
I
live
in.
There's
a
volunteer
fire
department
and
undocumented
people
are
not
afraid
of
a
fire.
Firehouse
addicts
aren't
afraid
of
a
firehouse.
Firehouses
were
like,
oh,
my
god
and
there's
a
kitchen
in
there
and
they're
in
every
every
little
area.
But
more
importantly,
we
we
served
in
that
in
this
cove
environment.
D
There
wasn't
a
sense
of
economics,
it
was
just
come,
one
come
all
and
it
was
the
first
time
and
I'm
embarrassed
to
say
it,
but
it's
the
first
time
in
my
career,
I
actually
purposely
set
out
to
say
I
don't
care
of
your
income
bracket.
All
I
want
to
do
is
see
people
sitting
together
and
that
to
me
is
one
of
the
great
missing
ingredients
of
the
hunger
movement.
D
Is
we've
never
used
food
to
build
community,
and
I
would
urge
you
to
ponder
is
just
a
simple
idea
of
meals
together
and
the
powerful
opportunity
to
bring
people
together
over
a
meal
to
talk
about
climate,
and
you
know,
there's
lots
of
ways
you
can
dress
up
a
meal
to
talk
about.
This
is
almost
a
climate
change
cuisine.
These
are
meals
or
foods
that
are
in
danger
because
of
climate
change.