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A
Okay,
so
you're
recording,
thank
you
actually,
as
I
mentioned
in
an
email,
there
is
no.
There
are
no
talks
with
their
talks,
so
we'll
just
go
through
the
iodized,
as
we
usually
do
and
then
just
jump
into
a
discussion.
One
of
the
things
that
I
kind
of
prepped
is
a
couple
questions
about
the
top
quality
format.
You
know
the
frequency,
the
leadership.
So
if
you
can
think
about
those
things-
and
if
you
have
any
other
questions,
then
maybe
can
jump
to
them.
A
I
usually
did
a
survey
and
I
will
do
one
again,
but
since
you
know
we
didn't
have
any
talk
today,
I
figured
at
least
the
folks
that
are
joining.
Maybe
we
can
expect
with
that,
and
so
it
goes
okay.
So
with
that
we'll
go
through
the
normal
things
that
we
usually
do
with
run
time
extension
so
sweat
eyes
here,
face
water.
B
Didn't
put
in
the
notes
yet,
but
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
updates
from
the
foundation.
It's
just
the
end
of
your
work
that
we
are
focused
on
end
up.
Your
reporting
end
up
here,
kind
of
taking
stock
of
the
inventory
and
everything
but
I'm.
Also
working
on
doing
a
bunch
of
like
is
talking
to
a
bunch
of
folks
in
our
community
that
work
or
interact
with
app
teams
that
have
not
even
looked
at
cloud
foundry.
B
So
you
will
see
at
lists
in
the
future
how
we
will
evolve
the
content
or
at
least
reshape
the
content
on
our
website,
which
is
a
lot
more
useful
for
either
your
teams
or
the
end
user
teams
to
to
use
and
access
when
they're
kind
of
still
in
that
education
or
education
phase.
So
that
is
pretty
much.
What
we're
doing
from
the
foundation
said
mostly
the
end
of
your
stuff.
B
Just
a
quick
note.
I
know
this
is
a
burning
question
for
pretty
much
everybody,
including
ourselves
out
here
foundation.
We
are
so
working
out
the
details
on
summits,
so
this
TL
DR
is
there
will
be
summits
in
2020,
but
we're
figuring
out
how,
when
where
and
what
form
should
it
be
I
think
everyone
here
is
aware
that
we
are
2019.
Summits
were
a
lot
more
expensive.
B
B
A
virtual
summit
that
we
haven't
explored
yet
because
I
know
the
community
values,
face-to-face
presence
and
interactions
a
whole
lot,
so
we're
looking
at
co-locating
with
any
other
event,
so
that
is
at
least
set
of
options
that
we
have
on
the
table.
But
if
it's
a
virtual
summit,
I
would
like
to
hear
either
from
you
norm
or
anyone
else
here.
How
would
it
be
valuable
like
how
can
we
structure
a
virtual
summit
so
that
it
still
feels
like
you're
getting
the
same
value
out
of
it
as
an
in-person
summit.
C
My
feeling
would
be
you
can
have
interactions
with
the
people
talk
to
be
more
interactive.
Talks
on
topics
and
people
can
be
sharing
information
at
that
point,
so
I
could
you
know
somebody
has
an
interest
in
let's
say:
Bill,
packs,
updates
and
stuff
like
that.
They
get
discussion
around
that
and
what
you
do
at
your
site
and
how
to
maintain
that
type
of
stuff.
C
So
it
would
be
different
style
of
talks
where
it's
more
people
leading
the
discussion
more
than
anything
else
and
that
you're
meeting
the
people
at
that
point
and
then,
when
you
go
off
to
these
other
summits
like
Q,
Khan
and
other
places,
you
can
have
meetups
in
there
where
you
get
to
meet
people
at
that
point.
So
therefore,
the
foundation
would
have
to
spend
a
whole
bunch
of
money
on
that
and
it'll.
Allow
other
gilling
allow
things
to
be
recorded
automatically
right
and
people
can
see.
What's
working,
what
the
discussions
are?
It's
just
an
idea.
C
B
That
is
helpful,
I
I'll
I'll
talk
to
the
team
here
as
well:
I'm,
mainly
chip
and
ABI
and
Evan,
to
see
what
they
think
of
it.
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
online
tools
at
least
or
organizations
that
can
help
us
host
these
virtual
summits
or
virtual
conferences
a
lot
more
effectively
and
efficiently.
So
that's
a
great
suggestion.
I
will
I
will
definitely
I've
made
notes.
I'll
I'll
see
if
that
is
also
something
that
is
useful.
B
I
know
that
some
of
the
member
organizations
also
are
looking
into
hosting
Cloud
Foundry
days,
which,
which
are
like
the
day-long
event,
stay
long,
Simon's,
one-day
events
at
their
region,
so
I
still
need
to
circle
back
and
see
if
they
there's
anything
but
virtual
semester.
A
good
idea.
Thank
you.
No.
A
Yeah
that
could
be-
and,
of
course,
you
you're
contemplating
I
mean
I
love
that
idea
too,
but
just
to
lay
it
out
out
there.
Your
foundation
is
also
contemplating
co-locating
right
with
other
big
conferences
that
point
Center
task.
Uconn
sense,
you
know
we
just
talked
about
it
and
in
potentially
reducing
to
one.
Is
that
also
part
of
the
discussions
yeah.
D
Dr.
max
yeah
give
a
quick
overview
of
some
of
the
things
that
the
runtime
teams
have
been
working
on
over
the
past
month
or
so
realest
integration.
They
haven't
released
in
UCF
deployments
major
version
since
major
version
12,
but
they
have
been
producing
a
lot
of
auto
bumps
with
stem
cell
updates,
so
they
had
mentioned
that
automation
falling
into
place
recently,
and
that
seems
to
be
humming
lis
away
nicely.
D
One
interesting
thing
from
the
CLI
team
they've
recently
published
a
versioning
table
that
has
different
categories
of
changes
and
what
you
would
expect
like
from
a
command
change
and
then
the
corresponding
a
change,
a
patch
or
a
minor
or
whatever
so
I
think
that's
nice
guidance
to
see
within
the
community
around
consistency
and
expectations.
Around
versioning,
a
bunch
of
the
component
teams
have
been
making
progress
on
deeper
integration,
with
kubernetes
deployment
models,
so
in
particular,
Irena
released
1.0
as
a
stability
milestone.
D
D
They
need
for
the
services.
And
then
I
I'm
also
know
that
log
readers
along
been
looking
to
close
out
the
deprecation
timeline
for
the
fire.
Hose
and
they've
recently
provided
some
office
files
into
CF
deployment
to
a
lot
of
people,
at
least
to
test
with
that
configuration
and
to
validate
that
they
are
have
all
of
their
integrations
and
replacements
back
in
place.
A
A
So
for
I'll
stop
sharing
my
screen
so
for
the
extensions
one
of
the
things
we
did
last
month
is
to
go
through
and
kind
of
clean
up,
basically
figure
out
which
projects
you
know
are
still
active.
As
you
know,
this
is
kind
of
like
a
playground,
experimentation.
So
there's
a
few
projects
that
you
know
after
discussing
with
owners.
A
Maybe
it
makes
sense
for
them
to
move
to
attic
so
that
concepts
I
started.
So
if
you
go
to
the
agenda,
you'll
see
the
list
and
then
also
links
to
the
active
projects
as
far
as
their
updates
there's
there
hasn't
been
much.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
discuss
in
terms
of
the
discussion
later
today
after
this
I
guess,
is
what
to
do
with
the
process.
A
No
okay,
so
I
guess
this
might
be
a
very
short
call.
The
last
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
is
so
I
show
my
screen
to
show
you
that
those
questions,
I
think
I
mean
I've,
been
running
these
for
a
few
years
now
and
I'm
happy
to
help,
but
at
some
point
it
might
make
sense
to
start
looking
at
what
to
do
next.
So
let's
go
here
so
I
had
a
couple
major
questions
about.
A
Exactly
then,
though,
sharing
the
screen
of
the
catwalk
right
for
2020,
so
I
think
one
of
the
big
questions
is
whether
or
not
the
frequency
that
we
have
right
now,
which
is
monthly,
is,
is
it's
still
useful
to
people,
or
should
we
change
it?
I
don't
know.
If
anybody
has
opinions
on
this,
obviously
the
next
one
could
be
since
they're,
not
as
well
attended
as
he
used
to
be.
A
C
No
notice,
no
I
was
thinking,
maybe
every
other
month
or
so
was
just
always
these
things
coming
out.
There
won't
be
a
heavy
hit,
you
know,
do
it
no
monthly
call
yeah
and
then
then,
if
that
doesn't
work,
then
then
move
to
quarterly,
but
I
do
find
it
useful
to
hear
updates
and
what's
going
on
in
different
areas.
C
A
Yeah,
that's
a
great
idea:
how
do
you
think
of
that
so
yeah,
one
of
the
things
part
of
why
I'm
asking
those
questions,
because
I'm
gonna
do
a
survey
and
I'm
gonna
try
to
see
thank
him
queried
a
community-owned.
Specifically
things
like
this.
So
obviously
you
guys
can
help
me
decide
what
those
questions
are.
So
if
one
of
the
question
could
be
if
we
change
it
every
other
month,
like
you're,
suggesting
or
the
week
to
something
like
quarterly,
so
excellent.
A
Thank
you
for
that
and
the
last
thing
is
in
terms
of
leadership
as
I
said,
I've
been
running
these
for
a
while
and
it
might
help
to
get
some
new
blood.
So
I
was
thinking
whether
or
not
it
makes
sense
for
me
to
sort
of
step
down
and
offer
it
to
other
people.
So
that's
also
something
out
put
on
the
agenda
to
get
folks
that
want
to
participate
and
want
to
take
on
that
and
hopefully
step
up
and
we
can
do
a
smooth
transition.
A
C
A
Certainly
not
the
unit,
then
the
top
of
the
things
that
I
have
to
do.
You
know
just
for
I,
haven't
for
couldn't
see,
work
around
different
projects,
I
think
I
think
the
biggest
the
biggest
work
is
to
try
to
find
those
talks
right
and
keep
them
interesting.
And
obviously,
if
it's
somebody
that
you
don't
know,
then
you
know
kind
of
get
a
preview
of
the
talk
before
or
if
you've
seen
it.
Obviously
that's
easier
like
a
YouTube,
video
or
something
so
it's
it's.
It's
not
a
lot
of
work.
A
I
think
the
main
thing
is
to
is
to
be
able
to
keep
a
beat
going
and
find
the
talks
like,
for
instance,
this
this
month.
I
was
hoping
you
really
folks
would
present,
but
nobody
got
back
to
me
and
I
kind
of
figured
well.
They
didn't
get
back
to
me
and
they've
already
presented
this
year
and
plus
all
sorts
of
it
that
they
just
didn't
have
anything
new,
so
I
could
have
pushed
coder,
but
I
figured.
You
know
it's
the
last
one.
Maybe
it's
best
to
just
you
know,
maybe
terminate
early
and
and
so
on.
A
C
A
C
A
B
B
You
asked
for
warrant
volunteers
to
just
take
ownership
of
that
particular
called
look
not
to
take
over
as
a
cab,
co-hosts
or
organizer
for
the
future,
but
just
individual
calls,
so
they
can
kind
of
get
a
sense
of
what
goes
in
and
they
also
get
that
code
in
court
experience
of
leading
the
call
and
then
as
we
go
forward.
If
that
person,
repeatedly
volunteers
or
if
that
volunteer
feels
like
they
can
take
ownership
or
probably
step
up,
at
which
point
you
can
either
co-host
or
co-organizer,
be
a
kind
of
passive
backup.
B
A
B
Things
for
anyone
and
I
think
if
it
makes
sense
for
you
to
mention
it.
Even
in
that
question
in
the
survey
max,
you
can
also
mention
that
anyone
from
the
foundation
can
help
them
with
reaching
out
to
folks
as
well
like
if
your.
If
those
volunteers
are
not
able
to
hear
from
the
folks
that
they're
trying
to
reach
out
to
and
obviously
you
they
will
come
to
you
first,
if
you're,
busy
or
if
they're,
not
responding
to
you
as
well.
A
And
I'm
glad
you
mention
this,
because
one
of
the
unsung
heroes
of
the
cup
calls
is
somebody.
That's
here.
Right
now
is
Ashley
from
stuck
in
Lane,
who
has
been
very,
very
good
at
pretty
much
recording
the
cause
and
also
helping
upload
them
in
soon
I
think
send
your
link.
So
you
have
to
do
the
work
to
get
the
file
to
the
foundation,
so
it
gets
put
on
youtube.
You
know,
and
of
course
you
remember
to
start
the
recording
in
Toronto
Thank,
You
Ashley.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
about
Copco
or
in
general,
otherwise
I'll
be
sending
that
survey,
probably
in
the
next
week.
I
think
next
week
is
it's
Thanksgiving
in
the
u.s.
so
called
later,
Monday
or
Tuesday
or
the
week
after
that,
and
then
I'll
keep
it
open
until
January.
So
that
way
we
get
hopefully
good
amount
of
responses.
E
A
I
can
tell
you
that
them
so
for
a
backness.
The
ASAP
team
has
asked
to
go
to
a
deck,
because
internally,
the
at
least
for
my
understanding.
They
had
had
some
pressure
to
move
to
a
quote-unquote
proprietary
version
and
because
they're
using
it's
deeply
integrated
with
their
internal
system,
so
they
couldn't
keep
going
on
supporting
the
external,
the
public
version
in
their
version
and
then
that
IBM
unfortunately
and
I
have
tried
very
hard
on
this.
We
did
exactly
the
same
thing
to
me.
I'm
not
happy
about
this,
but
you
know.
A
E
A
For
blockhead
for
blockhead,
you
know
it's
it's
it's
one
of
those
interesting
projects.
It's
it's
like
you
know.
We've
seen
this
many
times,
I'm
sure
you
have
and
I
have
in
many
of
us
here
that
things
like
technology
such
as
you
know,
blockchain
they
get
these
hypes,
you
know,
and
then
it
kind
of
dies
down.
I
mean
obviously
there's
still
quite
a
bit
of
activities
going
on
a
blockchain.
A
We
have
an
entire
team
and
so
on,
but
the
team
at
IBM
that
did
the
blockhead,
which
is
to
integrate,
got
chain
with
you
know
closer
to
cross
boundary.
The
result
were
yeah,
I'd
worked,
but
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
interest,
at
least
in
in
that
overlap
of
blockchain
and
cut
foundry
as
we
anticipated.
So
the
project
has
been
kind
of
like
there
and
it's
not
there's
no
activities,
and
you
know
just
to
kind
of.
Maybe
you
raise
the
concern,
so
you
know
anybody
that
wants
to
pick
it
up,
they
kind
of
decided.
A
Well,
maybe
it
makes
sense
because
what
we
were
trying
to
do
for
the
extension
is
just
say:
well,
it's
not
necessarily
a
failure,
but
if
a
project
is
not
active
then
maybe
it
makes
sense
to
move
it
to
an
ad
to
attic,
and
then
you
know,
if
somebody
wants
to
pick
it
up
or
clone
it,
you
know
do
whatever.
So
that's
what's
happening,
it's
not
that
we
will
be
interested.
It's
just
that
the
community
didn't
there
wasn't
as
much
interest
as
we
had
anticipated.
A
I
can
I
mean,
especially
since
this
this
came
from
IBM
I
can
connect
you
with
the
folks
that
led
this
email
and
then
maybe,
if
you
want
to
have
further
discussion
ping
me
offline,
you
know,
okay,
any
other
questions.
No
all
right!
Well,
I
give
you
back
30
minutes
of
your
time
and
I
think
you
and
have
a
happy
holidays
and
then
we'll
talk
again
by
email
for
the
I
guess
for
the
survey
and
then
the
next
call
will
be
in
January
take
care.
Everybody.