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A
Okay,
hello
people
welcome
to
the
working
group
meeting
for
foundational
infrastructure
yeah.
Let's
start
with
the
open
PRS.
A
Yeah
I
joined
Constantine
this
morning,
while
I
was
setting
this
up.
B
A
And
I
need
an
approval
from
long
yeah,
so
we
were
a
bit
too
optimistic,
I
guess,
with
this
switch
switching
over
to
15.
A
for
some
of
our
environments,
we
still
apparently
need
the
13
versions.
Otherwise
we
don't
have
enough
great
parts.
So
that's
why
we're
adding
it
back?
Yeah.
B
C
A
B
A
A
Actually,
before
we
go
all
over
all
these
borsche
things
Carson,
do
you
have
anything
that
you
wanted
to
discuss.
D
I
have
nothing
in
particular
to
raise.
Is
there
anything
that
y'all
are
thinking
about
in
the
syslog
area
that
you'd
want
to
talk
about.
A
To
be
honest,
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
contacts
on
it.
Okay,.
D
I
guess
there's
there's
one
thing
to
bring
up
that
the
for
a
while
we
were
shipping,
a
version
of
go
psutil
and
system
metrics
release
that
was
causing
panics
in
Windows,
Diego
cells
and
we've
since
resolved
that
we
only
heard
it
from
one
source
and
we
couldn't
replicate
it,
but
hopefully
bumping
this
is
the
systematrix
release
will
resolve
that
forever?
E
A
D
Missing
the
Windows
system:
oh
wait!
No!
There!
It
is
at
the
bottom.
Third
from
the
bottom
feature
ad
and
still
support.
Yeah
Ben's
been
responding
a
bit
to
that
one.
There
was
a
feature
request
to
add
parity
by
including
mtls
I.
Think
as
of
right
now,
Ben
and
I
don't
have
any
plans
to
go.
Do
that
work
we
encourage
to.
We
encourage
the
pr
for
from
the
folks
who
want
it
and
have
filed
this
way
as
something
to
do
in
the
future.
B
D
D
D
We
weren't
even
testing
it
at
that
time,
November
and
almost
immediately
someone
popped
in
to
say
that
they
are
using
it
and
we
should
be
keeping
it
so
I
was
hoping
I
kept
it
open
and
I
hope
that
some
a
few
more
people
would
hop
in
and
say
no
get
rid
of
it,
and
then
we
could
go
get
rid
of
it,
but
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
the
case
so
far
as
as
of
right
now,
we've
we
have
added
tests
for
it
and
we
do
plan
to
support
it
for
the
future.
D
So
we
can.
We
could
arguably
close
this.
A
Would
it
be
saying
that
bustling
extension,
Builder
249.
A
Yeah
yeah
tough
discussion.
Yes,.
D
Yeah
and
I
think
there
was
a.
There
was
a
few
libraries
that
were
imported
specifically
to
support
relp
and
I
forget
what
the
exact
resolution
of
this
was,
but
as
part
of
this
discussion,
Ben
kind
of
raised
the
idea
that
no
one
is
really
using
relp,
and
that
was
where
I
created
this
side
issue
from
yeah.
A
B
A
A
Is
a
bit
of
an
still
follow
on
from
that
okay,
but
could
you
maybe
comment
here
and
close
it
if.
D
A
So
what
we
have
for
the
on
the
board,
slides
that
we
have
this,
we
have
an
issues
View
and
a
VR
for
you.
So
in
the
issues
field,
we
have
we
look
at
it
this
way
in
the
BRC
about
it.
This
way,
I
don't
know
because
I
don't
know
reasons
yeah.
D
A
A
Would
be
nice
to
to
use
these
columns
if
that
that's
useful
for
you
all,
because
it
demonstrates
what's
what's
going
on
and
what
it's
waiting
for.
So.
D
These
ideas,
sorry
to
interrupt
I
I,
don't
have
access
to
update
these
columns.
D
A
Yeah,
so
the
the
problem
is
that
that
that
that
feels,
as
only
it's,
the
filter
share
between
issues
and
PR's.
So
we
have
that's
why
we
have
a
double
meaning
for
each
yeah
right.
Some
pending
reviews
for
the
art
and
discussion
is
for
issues.
D
That
makes
sense
pretty
straightforward.
Do
you
do
you
have
any
do
you
care
whether
I
archive
the
done
column.
A
A
F
A
D
A
Mean
project
this
Project's
view
is
already
much
better
than
the
the
other
projects
here
they
had
before.
B
E
C
A
A
B
D
Is
do
cards
automatically
get
added
to
these
tables
through
some
gifted
action
or
other?
Yes,.
D
D
I
think
I
got
all
the
info.
I
need,
plus
a
couple
tasks,
do
y'all
need
anything
else
from
me.
C
Yeah
I
was:
is
there
a
portion,
as
you
know,
having
this
issue.
A
B
A
Think
there
are
not
a
lot
of
probably
not.
The
problem
is
that
this
is
a
thing
that
at
least
for
our
customers,
a
lot
of
them
are
using
this
at
like
older
versions
right.
So
we
cannot
roll
out
a
new
alternate
version
or
a
new
Bosch
version,
because
we
cannot
force
them
to
upgrade
this
yeah.
Okay,
it's
more
of
a
yeah,
but
yeah
yeah.
If
they
don't
I
are
not
able
to
upgrade
the
DG
agent,
then
they're
also
not
able
to
upgrade
Bosch.
That
will
fix
this
issue.
A
No,
so
usually,
so
that's
not
really
true
right,
because
DD
agent
is
the
thing
that
you,
if
you
have
like
a
CF
right,
you,
you
co-locate
it
on
all
your
instances,
so
that
is
a
bigger.
That
is
something
they
would
want
to
do
in
a
change
window
where
they
are
updating
their
whole
like
deployment.
While
updating
the
director
is
just
affecting
one
instance.
A
That's
what
why
we
added
behind
a
flag
right,
so
people
yeah,
don't
get
bothered
by
it
and
that's
I
think
like
there
will
be
more
it's
more
of
a
pattern
right.
There
will
be
more
of
these
breaking
changes
in
Ruby,
ideally
one
when
we
find
them.
We
just
add
batches
for
this
stuff,
so
that
because
we
we
want
to
keep
a
Bosch
stable
and
the
templating.
A
The
Erb
templating
is
one
of
our
interfaces
and
it's
a
bit
wonky,
but
it
could
be
considered
a
breaking
change:
yeah,
okay,
so
I'm
I'm,
fine
with
like
by
default.
You
don't
want
all
the
like.
You
want
people
to
update
their
releases
to
be
compatible
right,
but
if
that's
not
possible,
ideally
we
have
an
option
to
enable
the
old
Behavior.
A
E
A
A
C
Yeah:
okay,
if
you
yeah,
if.
C
No,
you
don't
have
any
duplication
courses
here
to
in
place.
It
will
be
nice
to
say
okay
in
one
year.
A
C
A
A
We
had
we
had
a
lip
piano
patch
or
something
right,
yeah,
but
I.
Think
that's
for
the
old,
like
the
all
the
rubies
I.
B
A
Well,
yeah,
we
I
mean
I
know
these
are
like
a
lot
of
I,
don't
know
backwards,
compatible
compatibility,
related
changes,
so
in
the
in
the
past
we
had
an
Bosch
LTS
Fork,
but
ideally
we
want
to
stay
with
Upstream
right,
because
that
makes
maintenance
easier
for
for
us,
but
also
I
mean
we
can
spend
more
time
on
developing
features
if
we
don't
have
to
backboard
stuff
to
an
LTS
Fork.
A
But
that's
why
we're
trying
to
get
these
types
of
things
in
Upstream
be
a
bit
more
conservative
about
breaking
compatibility
with
older
versions.
So
so
it's
a
bit
of
a
trade-off.
A
A
Okay,
let's
see.
B
A
A
Okay,
yeah
I
will
just
open
on
PING
people
on
slack,
probably
better.
At
this
point.
E
C
E
B
A
Chris,
do
you
know
how
to
to
get
this
resolved?
It
seems.
B
E
F
F
A
E
F
I
actually
don't
see
a
ccla
from
swisscom
signed,
I
mean
they're
attributing
as
much
as
they
used
to.
So
that's
not
that
shocking,
but.
F
Yeah
I
don't
see
a
ccla
aside
from
from
Switzerland.
There
are
two
folks
well
at
least
one
who's.
Active
who's
signed
an
icla,
so
yeah,
don't
don't
need
to
don't
need
to
click
through
and
they
need.
E
F
Be
authorized
either
sign
an
icla
or
have
someone
at
swisscom
sign
on
ccla,
okay,
and
if
the
the
support
ticket
is
also
the
please
submit
a
support
request
ticket
that
is
basically
the
same
flow
that
I
go
through.
If
someone
has
a
problem,
so
it's
a
little
bit
faster
just
to
click
on
that.
If,
if
there
is
a
problem
and
they
think
they
should
be
authorized,
so
yeah
you'll
just
have
to
ask
them
to
sign
a
CLA
or.
E
C
B
A
B
A
A
There
have
been
no
changes
in
the
agents,
no
changes
in
the
we
are
running
a
little,
a
little
old,
the
Vala
agents,
that's
Azure
specific.
A
In
Jimmy,
we
already
migrated
to
using
using
cloud
in
it
anyways.
A
A
C
F
B
A
Don't
know,
is
it
in
the
settings
I
mean
this.
Is
the
agent
configuration
that's
in
the
stem
cell
right?
This
is
Azure
specific,
saying
that
we
need
to
use
config
drive
to
get
their
stuff.
Then
it's
trying
to
go.
Do
that
stem
cells,
blah.
E
A
A
A
B
B
E
A
B
A
You
built
locally
fine,
but
then,
when
you
try
to
run
BBL
the
extracted
terraform,
that's
embedded
is
not
correct
at
all
and
I.
A
This
but
I
couldn't
get
into
it,
so
that
makes
total
sense.
I
mean
I've,
had
the
same
issue
and
then
like
we
gave
up.
We
just
used
an
old
version
that
worked
right.
That's
what's
currently
still
being
published,
but
Master
is
broken
yeah.
So
if.
A
A
A
F
A
E
A
No,
but
it's
correct,
but
I.
It's
still
weird
that
his
terraform
is
because
the
terraform
in
BBL
is
is
embedded.
It
extracts
to
slash
temp,
slash,
BBL
terraform,
and
then
it
will
use
that
terraform
version
and
he
said,
is
using
terraform137,
which
is
particularly
weird
I,
don't
think
he's
correct,
no,
probably
he
and
he's
using
BBL
and
BBL
Springs,
and
therefore
we
just
looked
at
his
own
thing.
You.
A
A
A
To
test
it
so
and
CI
is
not
testing
it
either.
B
A
A
A
Yeah,
it's
something
of
its
Mac
OS
specific.
A
I,
don't
know
how
this
the
pre-start
scripts
and
postal
scripts
are
done.
I
I
thought
it
was
by
default
that
they
would
write
it
on
every
monogram.
B
A
A
And
the
problem
is
that,
after
a
reboot,
Monet
is
still
there,
a
module
start
start
starting
all
the
processes.
A
But
you
mean
the
reboot
of
the
VM,
because
the
reboot
of
the
VM
kicks
off
the
post
start
and
pre-start
groups
right.
It's
online.
A
C
B
A
I
mean
it's
not
pure,
but
I
mean
like
this
is
already
quite
a
big
hack
like
changing
the
network
stuff.