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A
Hello,
oh,
are
there
any
agenda
items
except
for
the
just
going
over
the
open,
pr's.
B
A
Good,
okay,
I
don't
have
any
or
not
much
context
on
this,
so
maybe
felix
you
want
to
quickly
yeah.
C
So,
in
the
end,
we
have
a
small
team
operating
bosch
in
our
environments,
and
the
idea
for
contributions
would
be
that
from
time
to
time
they
might
also
review
pr
and
work
on
those
things,
even
if
right
now,
there's
not
the
capacity
but
perspectively.
A
A
C
Okay
understood
so,
basically,
the
requirement
is
that
we
have
named
individuals
whether
they
are
in
the
team
of
a
specific
company
or
not
does
not
matter
at
all
right,
but.
A
C
Like
they
need
to
be
well
known,
and
then
we
could
find
a
way
how
to
get
them
as
an
approval,
for
example,
and
then
they
could
do
it.
A
But
yeah
all
the
discussion
would
happen
on
that.
Pr,
and
I
I
don't
see
I
mean
extending
or
growing
or
pull
of
reviewers,
I
think
is
only
a
good
thing
if
they
have
the
ability
to
also
crunch
a
bit
a
bit
of
time.
A
C
It's
not
specific
yeah,
it's
not
yet
that
concrete.
So,
as
I
said,
capacity
is
not
there
right
now
and
we
need
need
to
see
how
that
develops,
and
but
at
that
point
in
time
we
can
rediscuss
for
the
details
or
just
provide
names.
A
And
more
specifically
about
like,
I
think
you
and
kai
are
both
reviewers
currently
but
are
having
not
enough
time.
I
heard
to
yes
do
that.
Would
you
like
to
revoke
your
reviewer
role
or
I
don't
know?
Maybe
we
can
pause
it
or
I
don't
know
what
that
process
looks
like,
but
or
do
you
a
vision
in
the
near
future
or
to
have
more
time
to
spend
on
this.
C
So
yeah
for
kai,
I
think
so
he
will
leave
the
team,
so
I
guess
revoking
makes
sense
here
and
for
myself
we
can
talk
about
pausing
this
okay,
but
regarding
kaya
I
would
trigger
him
that
he
can
directly
contact
you.
I
think
that
makes
sense
and
yeah.
A
Okay:
let's
continue
at
the
npr's.
A
We
have
a
bump
to
ruby
bomb.
Did
everybody
see
that
we
have
an
a
gemmy
stem
cell
on
bosch,
io.
A
Yes,
for
people
that
have
missed
it
for
the
people
watching
from
home
later
yeah,
that's
great,
a
gm
stem
cell
thanks
all
for
the
contributions.
This
was
really
a
team
effort
and
we're
still
not
there
but
yeah
it's
great
to
have
this,
and
there
was
already
some.
A
There
were
already
some
people
in
the
in
the
community
that
started
using
it
and
trying
out
compatibility
with
certain
brush
releases.
I
heard
about
the
nginx
release,
which
was
incompatible.
I
think
kanye's
working
on
fixing
that
and
also
something
with
a
prometheus
brush
release.
So
people
are
trying
this
out
with
the
non-critical
things.
That's
good.
D
E
What
I,
what
I
did
is
for
bionic.
We
have
the
one
x
line
and
if
there
is
a
major
change,
it
will
change
to
the
two
x
and
from
then
on
it
will
just
basically
do
a
minor
version
bomb
and
for
jamie.
I
because
it's
alpha,
I
did
even
a
patch
patch
bump,
just
so
just
so
that
people
see,
because
when
once
we
go
to
beta,
we
can
still
keep
it
on
zero,
but
we
can
basically
do
zero.
One
x
makes.
F
Perfectly
sense,
I
think
we
could
bump
to
zero
one
when
bosch
director
is
running.
E
On
the
stem
cell,
maybe
no
I
want
to
go
to
zero
one
when
so
for
beta
once
jammy
is
officially
live
because
then
there
is
basically
a
stop
of.
So
I
think
two,
three
weeks
before
jamie
is
officially
released.
They
do
like
a
complete
stop
of
all
development
on
all
package
updates
and
from
then
on,
you
can
basically
say:
okay.
F
E
A
That's
also
already
jammy,
like
docker
images
and
stuff.
A
Developer
versions:
nice:
it
is
getting
closer
to
the
final
results
and
it
is
getting
closer
by
just
like
our
pipelines
consume
the
latest
thing
right
from
canonical,
so
the
changes
should
be
less
and
less.
D
The
the
other
thing
I'd
like
to
say
is
that
I
think
on
one
hand,
I
think,
that's
awesome,
because
we've
had
so
many
feedbacks
in
the
past
as
saying
that
the
stem
cells
were
not
following
samba,
so
it
was
hard
to
sort
of
build
tools.
You
know
on
ci
or
automation.
That
would
just
like
understand.
What's
a
patch,
what's
a
breaking
change,
so
on
one
hand
I
think
that's
cool.
D
On
the
other
hand,
I
think,
like
most
of
the
vendors
that
are
sort
of
a
packaging
cloud
foundry
they
sort
of
are
settled
on
this
format.
So
I'm
not
saying
that
we
should
change
it.
I
personally
think
that
we
should
try
to
keep
december
and
see
how
this
goes,
but
I
would
expect
some
pushback
in
the
future
of
some
vendors
saying.
Oh
no,
like
my
systems,
you
know
stopped
working
because
now
there
are
three
digits
things
like
that.
E
D
E
Doing
the
bosch-
because
that's
the
most
important
thing
here
is
that
we
always
keep
up
with
the
latest
bosch
agent.
So
every
stem
cell
is
now
on
its
latest
boss
agent,
and
this
is
also
an
experiment
for
bionic
to
see.
If
people
will
will
get
twitchy
about
this,
but
yeah
we
haven't
seen
any
they
don't
even
pay
attention
to
it.
So.
C
E
A
D
A
Support
for
3d
3.,
obviously
so
yeah,
that's
where
this
pull
request
comes
from
for
the
aws
cpi
thing.
There's
also
work
in
progress
for
the
bosch
director
to
update.
A
A
Benjamin,
so
maybe
benjamin
you
could
like
look
at
this
and
sign
off
on
it.
If
it's
okay
and
there
were
some
additional
suggestions,
suggestions
which
I
think
would
maybe
be
a
good
idea
to
create
an
rfc
for
because
that
apparently
is
what
the
process
is
now
for.
Bigger
changes.
A
The
drc
process
just
took
a
long
time
to
get
finalized,
so
this
rsc
is
not
merged
yet,
but
we
already
have
a
jamming
stem
cell,
so
it's
lagging
doesn't
matter.
It's
a
good
example
of
the
process.
I.
E
E
Yeah,
it's
it's
cool
that
people
are,
I
thought
there
would
be
less
traction
for
it.
E
Based
on
based
so
the
last
time
they
for
bionic,
when
we
did
the
beta
releases,
they
were
already
putting
it
in
their
pipeline
and
were
already
basically
trying
it
out
and.
A
A
A
When
that
needs
to
be
done,
it
also
includes
some
notes
about
when
to
deprecate
the
bionic
or
yeah
stop
bionic
support
yeah,
I'm
just
still
waiting
for
that
vr
to
be
merged.
B
I'll
change
the
quest
by
benjamin.
I
think
that
already.
B
Also
ramon
was
another
review
of
the
pm.
Maybe
I
don't
know.
E
Check
it
again,
but
it
got
every
time
it
got
because
I
accepted
it
already
because
he
did
it's
now
about
the
commits
and
he
changed
all
of
that.
He
put
really
effort
in
it.
So
for
me
it
works,
and
it
looks
good
to
me
and
I'm
not
going
to
nitpick
now
about
someone
put
a
lot
of
effort
in
it
about
how
the
commits
are
now
looking
because
that's
ridiculous.
This
guy
puts
a
lot
of
effort
in.
B
Clean
up
some
stuff,
yeah
comments
and
related
changes.
So
technically
we
have
two
approvals.
Benjamin
do
you
wanna,
look
at
it
or.
F
A
F
F
Remove
yourself,
I
don't
see
my
comments
anymore
right
and
it,
and
the
conversation
is
way
too
big.
Well,.
A
F
A
Okay,
this
pr
by
joseph
there
were
yeah
joseph
just
needs
to
make
a
few
changes.
A
F
Oh
yeah,
I
just
I
can't
push
anything
to
his
branch
and
it's
taking
quite
some
time.
A
A
E
Yeah
I
introduced
it
now
into
jammy
it's
going
out
through
the
the
whole
jimmy
pipeline
and
see
if
the
last
one.
A
E
On
gcp
right-
and
I
think
the
error
was
also
on
azure,
but
so
an
azure
should
be
checked
as
well.
Double
checked.
E
Yeah
for.
A
Yeah
this
some
context.
There
was
a
previous
br
to
start
blocking
the
traffic
to
nats
from
any
other
process
than
the
bush
agents,
but
there
were
some
subtle
issues
with
that
code
that
caused
it
to
fail
on
other
iss
in
mainly
gcp
and
aws.
That's
what
cold
was
reverted,
and
this
is
an
attempt
to
reintroduce
that
change.
A
Yeah
we
have
to
flip
stem
cell
stuff
still
waiting
on
a
refactor.
I've
asked
about
that
yesterday.
A
There's
an
there
wasn't
a
pr
that
I
made
to
allow
for
building
things
like
this,
so
stems
are
built
and
then
bionic
dash
fibs,
so
that
we
can
have
a
stem
cell
that
is
distinct
distinguishable
as
a
vip
stem.
A
Cell,
so
this
pr
just
needs
to
be
changed
to
to
use
that
code
so
waiting
for
that.
F
A
F
Although
hasn't
come
back
to
me,
I
should
handing
him.
Oh,
he
can.
C
A
A
C
I
mean
regarding
that
boston
has
designed
for
specific
logging.
I
saw
you
answered
again
yeah.
I
guess,
if
we
can
asynchronously
asynchronously
settle
on
an
interface
for
this
at
some
point
in
time,
which
is
probably
not
soon,
but
at
some
point
in
time
you
can
could
then
work
on
it,
but
as
far
as
I
understood
it,
it's
now
more
or
less
clear.
What
would
need
to
be
done
right.
A
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
I
have
talked
with
kenneth
about
this
and
he
was
he
actually
came
up
with
the
whole
tuple
thing.
So
I
think
that's
and
it's
just,
I
think,
a
change
to
the
configuration
interface
right.
C
A
A
Yeah
so
I
mean
this
is
this:
was
the
idea
for
the
interface
I
just
tried.
F
C
F
Yeah,
I
was
just
mentioning
another
issue
raised
by
orange,
but
it
has
been
closed,
foreign
activity
by
the
state
boat,
and
it
was
quite
the
same
requirement
to
understand
where,
in
from
those
instances,
something
is
calling
is
resolving
dns
names
not
with
appropriately,
but
this.
F
Yeah
and
I
answered
them
that
I've
questioned
their
requirements
because
because
the
dns
resolver
on
the
the
instances
is
actually
only
available
for
local
hosts
because
the
the
socket
is
only
bound
to
lock
and
host
so
I
mean
they
are
looking
for
the
process
responsible
for
issuing
dns
requests.
Well,
that's
quite
simple:
it's
it's
a
local
process
for
sure.
A
F
F
Themselves,
possibly
yeah
yeah
right
yeah,
but
they
haven't
answered
so.
A
C
F
The
parts
are
forwarded
to
the
theme,
I
guess
by
jego,
so
externa
outside
front
of
vmg.
Well,
what
are
we
talking
about?
That's
a
loopback.
A
Okay,
if
there's
nothing
else,
then
I
think
we
can
end
this
call
early.
F
F
I
would
like
to
discuss
the
removal
of
monit.
What
would
it
involve?
Did
you
guys
at
vmware
have
any
document
on
that
on
your
research
on
that
or
any
public
pivotal
tracker.
A
I
mean
publicly,
I
don't
know
in
what
format
it
is.
I
think
it's
just
like
a
few
notes
from
someone,
so
there's
no
like
doc
or
something
so
it
just
would
require
time
all
right-
and
I
at
this
point
so
the
outcome
of
the
research
was
basically
that
bpm
is
missing,
process,
management's
capabilities,
so
it
would
be
a
bigger
effort
to
replace
all
what
all
that
money
does
right.
So
things
like
just
http
health
monitoring,
that's
something
monash
can
do
that's
missing
from
bpm
yeah.
It's
monitoring!
F
Right
well:
okay,
yeah,
send
it
to
me
and
yeah
I'd,
be
happy
to
put
that
in
google
docs
and
at
least
more
deplete
the
opportunity.
Well
yeah.
A
A
That
that's
what
I
it's
this
repo
right
and
that's
where
they
started
this
whole
rfc
process.
There's
a
pr
currently
describing
the
rfc
process,
which
is
not
merged
yet,
but
they
have
like
a
whole
process
described
here
which,
how
it's
all
supposed
to
work,
there's
even
a
template
for
it,
and
they
are
now
trying
out
the
rfc
process
on,
for
example,
this.
A
Gem
jellyfish
rfc,
but
like
the
removal
of
knowledge,
would
also
be
a
concern
that
would
like
affect
the
ecosystem
more
broadly,
it's
not
only
bosch
right.
It's
also
all
the
releases
that
use
it
yeah
so.