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From YouTube: Learning Sync: 2021-05-18
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C
Research,
I
can
talk
about
a
little
bit,
so
we
had
the
second
of
our
two
share
out
sessions
at
office
hours
last
week,
and
I
think
we
had
a
few
sort
of
concrete
action
items
that
came
out
of
that
discussion.
C
Sam
pianato
he's
not
here,
but
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
help
sort
of
solidify
those
and
basically
try
to
carry
on
doing
user
research
in
some
fashion.
You
know,
maybe
not,
as
part
of
this
like
focused
highly
coordinated
between
two
people
project
that
has
been
so
far,
but
you
know
maybe
kind
of
establishing
some
practices
throughout
the
project
that
could
help
filter
some
of
the
conversations
that
are
happening
into
some
place
where
they
can
be.
You
know
valuable
to
others.
C
I
did
have
a
question
about
you
know
like
data
privacy
concerns
that
have
come
up
in
the
past.
When
we
tried
to
you
know,
we
talked
about
doing
a
survey
at
one
point
and
there
were
some
concerns
that
you
know
as
a
cncf
project
like
what
do
we
do
with
that
data?
C
A
Yeah,
I'm
not
sure
I'd,
say
open
a
service
desk
ticket
with
the
cncf.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
I
don't
know,
if
there's
a
category
that
fits
it
obviously
but
like
they
tend
to
just
like
you
could
open
something
in
the
totally
wrong
category
and
it's
the
same.
People
and
they'd
still
help
you
so
take
your
best
guess
and
I
think,
even
if
it's
an
open-ended
question,
they're
usually
really
responsive.
A
Like
when
we
had
that
well,
I
think
it's
never
really
got
resolved,
but
there
was
that
website
that
was
using
a
logo
that
was
like
the
same
as
ours
but
tilted
I
mean
I
don't
think
we
ever
got
resolution,
but
they
were
really
helpful
about
it.
So.
C
A
That
all
right,
unlabeled
issues
is
that
all
sorry.
B
Intro
video
yeah,
thank
you.
So
a
few
people
put
like
a
a
script
and
on
friday
I
try
to
combine
all
of
them
to
one
script,
so
we
can
move
on.
B
I
really
want
as
much
people
as
possible
will
review
it
before
we're,
starting
to
actually
work
on
the
video
itself
wondering
whether
it
will
be
the
best
to
share
it
tomorrow
in
the
working
group
or
just
to
schedule
another
meeting,
so
people
can
arrive
and
we
can
talk
about
it
just
wanted
to
hear
your
thoughts
about
it
because
it's
pretty
short,
it's
like
a
few
lines,
because
it's
only
like
a
one
minute
video,
but
it's
important
that
we'll
be
we'll
pick
the
right
sentences.
A
Yeah,
if
I
I
think,
I
think
we
should
iterate
on
it
like
I
I'm
sorry,
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
have
my
feedback,
but
if
we
bring
it
to
the
working
group,
I
would
say
bring
it
more
as
like.
A
This
is
what
we've
established
like
this
is
what
we've
decided
and
sort
of
imply
that
it's
not
open
to
feedback.
At
that
point,
I
worry
that
if
we
bring
it
to
the
working
group,
it'll
just
reopen
a
whole
bunch
of
things,
a
whole
bunch
of
questions
that
maybe
have
even
already
been
answered.
So
that'd
be
just
my
suggestions.
Let's
like
harden
it
as
learning
team
and
with
whatever
inputs
you've
got,
and
then
we
can
sort
of
present
it
at
working
group
rather
than
like
open
it
up
for
deep
feedback.
B
B
Exactly
okay.
D
C
All
right
all
right,
this
is
just
an
idea
but
like
at
one
point,
javier
had
said
something
like
this
is
a
learning
I
mean,
I
think
he
he
said
both
things
but
like
maybe
like
a
a
sub
team
rfc
for
the
learning
team,
so
that
it's
there
for
anyone
to
look
at.
But
it's
also
clear
that
it's
you
know
scoped
to
learning.
I
don't
know
it's
just
an
idea.
A
A
Simple
rfc
too,
don't
like
don't
don't
assume
that
like
because
it's
an
rfc
it
has
to
be
like
long
and
drawn
out
like
it
can
just
be
like
a
one
sentence
statement,
one
sentence,
motivation
and
then
the
how
it
works
is
just
this.
It's
just
the
text
right.
B
Yeah
yeah,
okay,
okay
I'll,
do
it
I'll
either
do
this
or
I'll
schedule
a
meeting
or
both
I'll
think
about
it
and
I'll
share
it
tomorrow
at
work
with
the
work
group?
Okay,
great.
Thank
you.
D
I
just
wanted
to
ask
about
one
thing.
So,
in
the
last
meeting
we
were
like
trying
to
tackle
these
two
issues
around
comparisons
with
dr
phil.
So
it's
taking
a
look
at
the
existing
feature,
comparison
matrix.
We
have
it's
mostly
against
other
tools,
that
sort
of
to
auto
detection
and
they're,
not
tools
like
docker
file,
which
users
have
to
provide
their
own
set
of
instructions.
D
So
there
are
a
couple
of
tickets
to
add
like
dockerfile.
To
that
feature
column.
Does
it
make
sense
to
just
add
that,
because
it
won't
really
apply
like
dockerfile,
won't
really
apply
to
a
lot
of
those
rows,
and
it
has
like
some
other
features
where,
like
users
may
want
to
default
to
dockerfiles
when
they
can't
use
buildbacks
or
something
like
that.
D
So
should
we
instead
have
like
a
different
page
related
to
like
tools
that
use
a
dockerfile
like
approach
to
building
container
images,
where
the
app
developer
provides
instructions
and
has
more
fine
gain
control
over
what
the
output
image
is
versus
like
source
to
image
tools
like
build
packs,
s2i
go
or
something
like
that,
or
do
we
want
to
just
put
it
there?
It
is
right
now.
D
D
A
I
think
I
I
don't
think
I
might
be
wrong
about
this,
but
I
don't
think
most
people
think
about
that
differentiation
between
source
to
image
versus
what
dockerfile
is
like.
I
think
for
most
people
unless
you're
like
in
the
container
image
building
space
like
it's
just
stuff,
that
turns
a
repository
into
a
docker
image.
So
I
don't
that
doesn't
bother
me
that
there's
it's
sort
of
an
apples,
oranges,
kind
of
thing.
B
A
Think
yeah
yeah.
I
think
if
you're
gonna
go
into
that
kind
of
detail
like
the
root's.
A
good
example
where,
like
is
that
a
good
thing
or
a
bad
thing?
It's
complicated,
it
depends
what
you're
doing
and
whatever
whatever
that
sounds
like
it
would
be
better
in
the
docs,
like
maybe
under
reference.
A
I'm
looking
at
what
else
is
here:
yeah
cause.
Oh
yeah,
like
we
have
an
explanation
of
reproducible
builds
here.
I
think
that's
like
the
same
kind
of
thing
where
it's
like
this
is
information.
You
need
it
kind
of
doesn't
fit
neatly
and
anywhere
else,
so
I
could
see
it
being
just
like
a
comparison
to
dockerfile
page
right.
There.
A
A
A
A
All
right
anything
else
on
the
agenda
that
we
need
to
discuss.
C
Nothing
on
the
agenda.
Oh
sorry,
I
didn't
send
this
to
everyone.
I
just
want
to
just
pass
on
like
this
cool.
C
I
really
share
this
with
me,
like
description
of
documentation
and
different
types
of
documentation
that
in
reading
it
just
got
me
thinking
about
what
we
have
and
where
our
gaps
might
be,
it's
just
a
you
know.
If
you're
interested,
I
found
it
pretty
useful.
C
C
C
D
C
C
C
D
I
guess
we
could
try
and
find
some
similar
programs
which
are
or
like
some
way
to
surface
issues
in
the
docs
repository
to
a
wider
audience.
I
don't
know,
I
think
it's
I've
usually
seen
like
students
or
like
people
who
are
willing
to
contribute
to
a
project
when
they
want
to
start.
D
D
D
Like
you
answer
a
bunch
of
questions
like
what's
your
area
of
expertise
or
what
you're
interested
in
it
points
you
to
like
here's,
an
issue
you
can
help
out
with
or
like
here's,
a
repository
which
you
may
be
interested
in,
I
don't
know
if
cncf
has
something
similar
so
like
I
know,
lots
of
people
would
be
willing
to
contribute
to
cncf
projects.
If
you
have
like
hey,
I'm
interested
in
learning
more
about
containers
or
docker,
but
I'm
like
someone
new,
and
I
want
to
help
out
with
talks
if
we
could.
C
C
C
C
It's
I
think,
because
sam
just
posted
the
contribute
that
cncf
dot
io,
slash,
contributor.
C
C
But
it
would
be
nice
if
this
page
had
like
you
know,
because
it
has
like
project
name
focus
primary
language.
Maybe
if
it
had
like
a
help
wanted
and
like
you
know,
just
a
you
could
you
know
like?
Maybe
you
want
help
on
a
specific
repository
or
maybe
you
want
help
on
your
docs
or
you
know
like
just
a
place
for
people
to
go
as
opposed
to
like
I'm
on
the
buildpacksio
website,
although
we
can
also
put
that
on
our
website
like
want
to
get
started,
we
love
doc's
contributions.
D
C
Let
me
capture
these
as
like
possible
action.
C
Items
I'm
gonna,
I'm
I've
been
taking
little
notes,
I'm
just
gonna
drop
them
into
the
document.
I
can
make.
C
B
C
C
C
Oh
sorry,
the
I
guess,
just
adding
you
know
a
clear
direction
on
our
on
our
website
or
on
our
community
page
is
like
if
you're
interested
in
getting
involved.
Here's
where
you
get.