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From YouTube: Working Group: 2020-10-15
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* Stack Buildpacks
A
A
Sounds
good
reminder
to
everyone
assigned
to
the
document
looks
like
we
don't
have
any
new
faces
today,
so
diving
right
into
the
agenda,
revisit
our
2020
roadmap.
B
Yeah,
if
there's
like,
if
there's
any
rfcs
or
anything
that
we
need
to
talk
about,
we
can
do
that
first.
But
I
don't
see
anything
on
the
agenda,
so
yeah
I'll
go
ahead.
I
was
looking
at
the
2020
road
map.
B
I
think
we
probably
should
like
quarterly
review
it
make
sure
we're
on
track
and
stuff,
but
there
I
mean
there's
a
bunch
of
things
as
you
look
through
it
that
it's
like,
I
think
worth
celebrating,
like
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
over
the
first
three
quarters
of
the
year
and
and
knocked
out
a
lot
of
that,
but
there's
still
some
big
things,
in
particular
the
bill
pack
registry
and
the
os
packages
stuff.
B
I
think
the
pack
registry
is
in
good
shape
and
I
don't
think
we'll
have
any
trouble
shipping
that
fairly
soon,
but
I'm
a
little
bit
worried
about
os
packages
and
really
stack
build
packs,
just
because
it's
such
a
big
thing
and
it's
got
a
lot
of
dependencies
and
so
that's
kind
of
down
to
that
next
bullet
there.
I
was
wondering
if
we
could,
like
formalize
the
like
the
steps
that
need
to
happen
in
order
to
pay.
B
You
know
clear
the
way
for
the
shipping
at
least
the
first
part
of
stack,
packs
and
sort
of
like
timelines.
I
mean,
I
guess
I
don't.
I
I'm
not
as
concerned
about
like
dates
but
more
about
like
dependencies,
and
you
know
what
are
the
things
we
have
to
do,
so
we
don't
get
blocked
so
yeah
emily.
B
I'm
in
particular
want
to
hear
from
you
on
this,
but
I
think,
like
the
very
first
thing
is
finalizing
the
stack
bill,
packs
rfc,
which
I
said
yesterday,
but
I
want
to
just
remind
everyone
that,
like
within,
like
by
next
wednesday,
I'd
really
like
to
have
this
go
to
fcp,
so
I'm
happy
to
do
whatever
work.
I
need
to
do
to
the
rfc
itself,
but
the
thing
I
can't
do
is
review
it,
for
you
so
definitely
take
a
look
and
make
sure
you're
comfortable
with
it.
B
For
the
experimental
stuff,
I
guess
I
probably
need
to
review
that
rfc
myself,
but
I
feel
like
both
the
rfc
and
the
implementation
are
prerequisites
for
certainly
for
the
stack
build
pack
implementation,
but
not
necessarily
for
the
spec.
But
I
was
also
thinking
that
the
after
the
rfc
is
complete
I'll,
probably
start
on
spec
changes,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
those
are
like
dependent
on
some
of
the
decisions
in
the
experimental
api
rfc
or
not.
A
I
think
the
plan
that
terence
and
steven
collaborated
on
there
was
to
have
within
a
given
api
in
the
spec
like
unstable
features
section
and
therefore
the
spec
changes
that
you'd
make
for
step
backs.
If
we
wanted
to
use
that
new
mechanism
would
depend
on
how
we
laid
that
out
in
the
rfc.
B
Sense,
so
I
think
that
also
means
we
need
to
try
and
finalize
this
rfc
tube
soon.
A
B
B
Is
there
anything
else
that
I'm
missing
or
not?
Thinking
about
in
terms
of
like,
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
do
here
is
think
about
it,
such
that
when,
when
it
comes
time
to
like
take
the
existing
pull
request
and
like
treat
it
as
a
like
a
poc
and
re-implement
it
with
the
experimental
api
stuff
on
whatever
changes
are
in
life
cycle
that
we
don't
run
into
any
blockers
that
you
know
it's
like.
Oh
yeah,
we
didn't
do
that
thing,
and
now
we
have
to
do
that.
A
A
B
C
Yeah
I
do
like
having
this
spec
up
there,
because
then,
if
there
are
certain
like
you
know,
I
don't
know
like
disagreements
when
you
get
to
the
point
of
implementation,
it's
like
well,
this
is
what's
in
the
spec,
we
can
follow
up
with
a
spec
change
and
a
change
later
on
right.
It
gives
you
the
target,
that's
not
so
moving
right
now,.
A
Yeah,
I
think
the
perfect
middle
ground-
and
we
don't
have
to
hold
ourselves
to
this,
but
when
we
can
get
there,
it's
nice
is
to
merge
the
spec
change
to
a
branch
start
implementation
before
that
branch
is
released.
So
you
can
use
the
implementation
of
feedback
on
small
changes
if
you
got
it
wrong
in
the
spec
and
then
release
both
of
them.
In
short,
succession.
B
Yeah,
I
think
like
along
with
that-
and
maybe
that's
the
point
where
we
make
this
call,
but
it's
like.
I
would
like
to
pick
a
version
and
block
on
this.
For
that
version.
You
know
what
I
mean
and
like
if
we're
not
there
like,
we
do
everything
we
like.
We
don't
do
other
things.
We
do
the
the
things
we
need
to
do
to
unblock
that
release
like
we're.
A
Yeah,
that's
what
I
would
like
to
do.
I
like
to
once
we
merge
the
rfc,
create
a
specific
schedule,
it
in
a
api
milestone
and
then
just
it's
on
it's
officially
on
the
roadmap
after
that
right.
B
Yeah
for
the
spec
changes
like.
B
Like
it
could
they
could
easily
easily
be
woven
into
like
platforms
back
and
build
packs
back,
but
I
do
worry
about
those
getting
unwieldy
like
they're
already
like
they're
already
pretty
big,
I
wondered
if
there
was
any
opportunity
to
sort
of
decompose
them
into
parts,
but
maybe
that's
a
better
conversation
to
have
than
like
steven
and
terence
and
maybe
ben
are
here.
A
B
B
Yeah,
I
mean
some
of
that's
inevitable.
I
mean
like
we
did.
They
have
a
pack
registry
too,
where
there's
like
at
least
one
more
rfc
that,
like
corrects
the
json
schema.
A
B
This
is
wrong
because
I've
I've
talked
to
people,
certainly
on
the
salesforce
side
that
were
trying
to
get
up
to
speed
on
stackpacks
and
they're.
Like
oh
yeah,
I
see
this
reference
to
this
thing
that
doesn't
exist
and
you
could
go
back
and
look
at
the
commits.