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From YouTube: CNCF SIG App Delivery Meeting 2019-12-18
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CNCF SIG App Delivery Meeting 2019-12-18
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Importantly,
we
have
been
working
on
an
initial
template
for
project
reviews.
As
you
know,
we
have
presented
a
couple
of
projects
and
some
of
you
might
already
be
eager
to
learn
what's
coming
next
and
how
we
continue
the
work
there.
So
we
talked
to
the
TV
and
got
some
example
today,
also
on
the
mailing
list
of
other
examples
of
our
project.
We
recently
diligence
is
done.
So
when
you
click
on
that
link,
you
should
actually
get
access
to
the
templates.
Maybe
just
have
a
look
what's
in
there.
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The
project
is
filling
out
most
of
doesn't
and
working
together
with
us
on
the
with
the
chairs
to
get
this
done.
So
it's
pretty
straightforward.
Authors
are
the
authors
of
the
documents
and
just
link
to
your
TOC
PR,
which
I
was
usually
exist,
the
presentation
on
the
project
and
the
github
project
to
discuss
the
goal
of
the
project
and
the
current
status
giving
an
overview.
Obviously,
people
learn
as
we
go
here
and
also
future
plans,
so
this
is
something
that
we
added
here.
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A
Are
you
planning
to
you
use
other
CNCs
project
so
like
it's
simply
example,
if
you
provide
any
type
of
software,
for
example,
planning
to
export
some
metrics
data,
why
over
prometheus
open
metrics,
these
kind
of
things
in
alignment
designer
CN,
CF
project
estate,
okay,
where
you're
already
actively
working
with
projects?
Obviously
one
of
the
goals
is
here
to
have
close
collaboration
with
the
project.
So
if
you're
already
working
with
other
projects,
then
state
here
are
you
working
with
them
and
how
to
collaborate,
wisdom
we
had
the
alignment.
Is
the
application
delivery
reference
model?
A
Already
in
there
before,
some
people
already
include
this
in
the
project
presentation.
The
goal
here
is
just
to
maybe
copy
and
paste
what
you
already
have,
but
also
to
define
what
you're
expecting
and
what
the
output
to
other
layers
of
the
project
would
be,
or
is
it
totally
agnostic
there
then
there
is
some
formal
requirements
is
linked
to
a
CNCs
regimes.
A
Other
considerations,
why
is
this
project
related
to
cloud
native
for
your
convenience
is
also
the
CNCs
definition
of
cloud
native
in
here
and
then
general
metrics,
around
project
and
code
quality,
which
already
have
performance
goals
results?
Which
cities
is
the
ICD
systems,
are
using
the
code
coverage.
Metrics?
A
How
are
committees
chosen
chosen
how
our
decisions
made
for
the
decision
makers
within
the
project
also
outside
of
the
sponsoring
information,
so
very
important
piece
of
these-
that
we
want
to
have,
as
part
of
this
review
check.
Ok,
what
standard
by
the
sponsoring
organization
of
what's
done
outside
of
the
sponsoring
organization
and
then
the
last
point
in
there
is
their
project
independent
from
a
specific
vendors
such
as
a
better
based
open-source
project
and
the
mailing
list.
Here
are
some
examples
like
on
Falco,
but
the
points
it
is.
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The
the
the
the
question
I
have
is
we've
already
done
most
of
this
for
operator
framework.
Is
there
an
expectation
we
should
redo
it
all
in
this
format?
Or
can
we
move
the
operator
framework
work
ahead
now,
or
is
it
already
passed
as
operator
framework
already
passed
this
stage?
From
your
perspective,
I.
A
Think
that
not
everything
is
in
there,
but
maybe
you
can
copy
and
paste
it
over
from
what
we
have
in
our
documents,
but
we
should
definitely
put
it
into
one
single
spot
and
we
have
some
questions
specifically
about
operator
framework
that
we
then
also
want
to
have
a
slack
a
follow-up
discussion
in
the
document.
Okay,.
B
A
A
We
can
review
that
the
next
sick
meeting,
and
but
our
proposal
was
also
that
we
can
do
it
in
a
smaller
round
with
the
chairs
beforehand,
because
not
everybody
might
want
to
listen
in
and
on
all
of
them.
Obviously,
we
can
make
it
publicly,
otherwise
the
options
also
that
we
get
together
once
we
have
all
that
there,
the
content
together
there
will
be
some
questions
up
front
from
us
from
the
chairs.
A
B
A
A
It
was
a
likes
a
bit
of
structure,
it's
usually
more
sharing,
also
opinion
on
certain
things
and
like
being
related
to
individual
bits
and
pieces
and
yeah
you're
right,
you
kind
of
like
the
guinea
pig.
The
good
thing
is
that
it
worked
well
for
other
projects
that
have
been
submitted,
but
at
least
please
bear
with
us.
If
something
is
not
100%,
clear.
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Hi,
this
is
I,
know
new
to
this
sake,
but
I
have
a
question
on
the
reference
model
that
we
have
here.
Is
there
you
know?
Is
there
a
requirement
for
projects
to
meet
all
of
the
topics
that
are
mentioned?
The
topics
one
two
and
three
in
the
reference
model,
or
could
they
be
targeting,
is
specific,
just
one
or
two
specific
topics?
Out
of
that
and
are
we
gonna
clarify
that
yeah.
A
There's
no
there's
no
requirements
to
meet
all
of
them
at
the
reference
model
was
really
targeted.
That's
having
a
model
where
we
see
one
have
word
as
an
application,
Alire
approach
it
will
it
fit
in
there
and
there
was
project
within
the
CMC
after
the
very
specific
to
one
topic,
but
obviously
might
cover
multiple
but
you're
definitely
not
required
to
fulfill
all
of
them.
If
you
look,
for
example,
at
om
per
se,
om
is
a
way
of
application
definition.
A
Obviously,
then
there's
other
projects
coming
along
with
it
or
days
of
the
scenes.
You
have
project
like,
for
example,
slugs,
who
are
more
on
the
delivery
side,
but
you
should
just
know
where
you
fit
in
there
and
what
you
want
to
consume
from
other
than
yes,
ideally
and
what
you
can
work
with,
but
it
definitely
don't
be
to
support
all
of
them.
A
A
A
A
A
I
was
a
marquis
right.
It's
git
repository
on
github
related
yeah,
the
other
one
was
seemed
this
email
invocation
image
which
has
like
install
uninstall
update.
So
it
has
some
overlap
to
what
some
of
the
operator
works
doing
and
the
third
one
I
put
in
here
is
flux
and,
and
then
the
web
bits
and
pieces
is
pieces.
Pieces
are
just
for
for
references,
so
feel
free
to
through.
A
Oh
in
your
comments
and
try
to
this
custom
and
come
to
a
more
clear
statement
here,
and
we
will
have
a
follow-up
discussion
on
this
during
the
next
meeting.
So
take
the
time
to
really
through
it's
not
that
much
at
your
comments
in
here.
If
you
think
there
is
something
substantially
missing
in
there
or
misrepresented
just
post
in
the
comments,
so
general
guidelines
for
the
documents
I
stood,
there
can
be
a
lot
of
commands
that
eventually
make
it
to
the
document
and
make
it
kind
of
hard
to
read.
A
If
you
have
a
comment
that
I
can
or
that
we
can
work
directly
into
the
document
like
this
example
here,
where
I
was
a
github
is
not
correct.
It's
really
good
repository
I
would
usually
take
them
just
in
the
resolve
commands
just
close
the
command
pack,
you
go
to
edit
it
to
the
document,
and
then
we
solve
the
command
so
that
we
don't
end
up
with.
Like
four
hundred
open
comments,
you
would
still
see
them
in
the
phase.
Three,
so
I
hope
everybody's
fine
with
this
approach,
but
please
feel
free
to.
B
This
is
really
nice
and
if
you
go
back
up
to
the
top
I
just
to
catch
catch,
one
thing
and
I
just
added
a
comment
so
that
doesn't
go
out.
The
the
maturity
model
has
been
renamed.
The
capability
model
maturity
had
some
negative
comment:
connotations
for
some
people
in
the
community,
so
you'll
see
that
all
the
diagrams
have
been
changed
out
there
and
in
the
flesh.
D
B
A
I
make
this
changes
right
after
anything,
Thanks
good,
so
that
that
was
this
one
and
I
want
to
present
it.
Ideally
at
least
the
first
rezneck
scenes
in
meetings.
So
if
you
have
some
time
over
the
holiday
seasons,
please
throw
in
your
comments
and
in
the
next
meeting
we
will
then
continue
to
discuss
this
one.
E
Really
going
to
encourage
us
to
start
thinking
of
operator
is
not
a
proper
noun.
It's
just
another
thing
like
like.
We
think
of
controllers
and
and
I
really
want
to
applaud
core
OS
and
then
Wright
had
for
putting
this
together,
but
for
further
adoption
across
the
whole
community.
Let's
turn
it
into
a
thing.
So,
like
an
example,
the
thing
that
I
saw
here
it
says
in
the
maturity
model
that
you
are
the
capability
model
that
we've
copied
out
of
from
from
Red
Hat,
it
says,
requires
custom
operator
building
simplified
with
SDK.
We.
E
B
E
C
F
A
A
Could
be
and
aren't
riding
a
kubernetes
ship
with
containers
in
the
background
might
not
be
a
logo
but
like
it'd,
be
holy
all
background
for
us,
but
I.
Think
overall
there's
a
general
idea
like
any
animal.
The
tip
that
kind
of
does
something
in
that
area
of
building
something
give
me
you
mentioned.
You
have,
will
have
some
proposals
in
January.
G
D
D
Cool
it
is
alright,
oh
they're,
much
better.
There's
a
nice
green
thing,
awesome,
so
yeah
final
call
on
being
able
to
put
in
your
ideas
now
we'll
have
designs
to
look
at
in
January,
not
quite
sure
on
timing,
yet,
but
get
your
stuff
in
this
week,
and
we
will
turn
around
towards
being
able
to
give
some
ideas
with
the
idea
of
being
able
to
finalize
a
logo.
A
The
first
step
would
I
think
be
taking
the
current
tools
was
in
CNCs
and
trying
to
call
them
together
into
a
landscape
I,
really
following
the
reference
model,
bigger
than
figuring
out
that
the
reference
model
might
not
be
working
perfectly
for
us,
and
it
says
first
rafter,
there
is
actually
no
first
draft,
but
we
should
be
working
on
one,
and
this
is
actually
called
for
volunteers
who
want
to
take
the
first
draft.
I
want
to
be
working
on
the
first
draft
here.
A
B
A
way
to
take
to
look
at
this
1cf
landscape
and
add
a
filter
that
is
rules
that
would
give
you
a
first
pass
for
this.
As
you
know,
I'm
just
anytime,
someone
says
lens:
okay,
that
horrid
CN
CF
thing,
but
it
does
work
for
some
things,
but
there
might
be
a
way
to
just
filter
on
tools,
take
out
or
maybe
operate
or
add
it.
Operators,
tools
or
I,
don't
know
what
you
want
to
delivery.
B
G
G
A
Ideally,
it
should
fit
everything
in
there.
I
don't
know
what
your
take
is
trying
but
I
think
that's
what
should
happen
edit
form,
because
the
main
goal
for
the
landscape
was
for
somebody
you
coming
in
here
and
looking
for
tools
that
provide
specific
capabilities.
They
can
look.
Okay,
I
want
to
shoot
my
application.
I
don't
need
something,
I,
don't
know
for
application
definition.
What
can
I
use
or
I
need
something
for
deployments?
What
can
I
use
and
then
have
a
look
at
what
these
tools
down?
G
A
A
A
D
D
G
So
this
is
just
a
static
page.
It's
a
web
app
that
loads
all
the
information
for
all
of
this
in
the
background
and
then
all
the
filtering
and
everything
happens
in
browser,
so
you're
pulling
in
over
a
thousand
different
projects
and
all
their
metadata
in
and
then
your
browser
can
go
and
cycle
through
it.
So
it
does
take
a
minute
sometimes
to
load.
Okay,
I,
just
downloaded
the
Internet
fine
I
think.
A
B
B
So
the
same
look
and
feel
so
you,
you
know
whether
we
use
an
add
a
metadata
tag
to
this
landscape
for
app
cig
delivery
reference
model
for
tooling,
whatever
that
we
want
to
call
it
which
I
would
say
we
should
do
it's
not
hard
to
do
it
here,
because
this
is
but
or
we
could
just
stand
up
our
own
I
just
don't
want
to
reinvent
the
wheel,
but.
A
A
A
A
Good
yeah:
let's
put
this
thing
on
the
agenda
for
next
one
next
topic
is
continued
work
on
air
gapped
environments.
I
think
we
had
a
great
presentation
in.
I
think
we've
ever
done
on
this
on
the
to
landscape
so
far,
or
are
there
any
other
comments
on
this?
One
like
we
have
action
items
and
should
be
good.
A
D
A
A
A
H
I
would
agree,
I
think
it'd
be
useful
to
maybe
put
out
a
message
on
the
mailing
list
or
something
to
solicit
any
interest,
and
maybe
we
can
do
a
quick
survey
to
see
if
there's
any
other
projects
that
are
addressing
that
somebody
replied
to
the
recording
on
YouTube,
with
a
link
to
something
that
was
kubernetes,
specific
and
I.
Think
somebody
mentioned
that
there's
something
in
the
operator
world.
It
was
kind
of
addressing
this
as
well.
Somebody
at
coop
con
showed
me
a
help.
I
Yeah
I
agree
so
I
think
maybe
software
distributors,
like
s
AP
or
IB
n,
may
be
interested
in
this
topic
because
you
have
to
probably
have
to
leave
your
application
or
air-gapped
environment
I.
Think
we
need
to
send
a
message
or
to
the
to
the
outside
world.
Let
people
know
hey.
We
are
talking
about
this
topic,
so
if
you're
interested
please
come.
A
Yeah
I
think,
ideally,
if
you
continue
this
aside
out
of
the
mailing
list,
who
wants
to
actively
contribute
to
this
topic
just
to
apply
there
and
then
we
can
create,
like
a
smaller
working
group
around
this,
to
either
move
it
to
the
next
level.
Great
now,
people
are
posting
to
youtube
links
so
even
more
channels
to
find
it
from
the
and
maybe
I,
don't
know
what
we
throw
people
back
on
the
YouTube
can
be.
This
can
be
reset.
A
Some
have
to
look
at
whether
we
can
add
this
somebody,
the
YouTube
channel
at
the
best
post
it
back
to
to
the
github
repo
as
an
issue,
or
they
want
to
ask
Amanda
to
the
mailing
this,
because
otherwise
these
things
might
simply
get
lost,
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
we
that
people
get
heard
about
this
one,
because
I
honestly
did
not
look
at
YouTube
good,
so
yeah
this
outward
emailing.
This
ask
other
projects
that
contribute
there
and
also
the
bigger
software
vendors
who
is
interested
and
obviously
other
providers.