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This is an official live stream of the cncf and, as such is subject to the cncf code of conduct. Please do not add anything to the chat or questions that would be in violation of that code of conduct basically be respectful of all your fellow participants and presenters welcome to the cnc face-off, and here is our host. The very luscious maddie stratton.

B

All right welcome to round one of cnc face-off. This is a live stream. Game show featuring two teams facing off, get it compete to see who will eventually rise to the top of the bracket and be awarded the coveted cnc face-off cup. We are really excited to be kicking off today.

B

uh Thank you for joining us as we're gonna go we're gonna get started and uh first though, let's uh go ahead and we've got two different teams, so our first team will introduce each player as they come up, but we have the rogues gallery versus the contrib x, sig and, and our first face-off is going to be- uh is going to feature cat cosgrove facing off against laura santamaria, so uh contestants go ahead, get your hands on your buzzers, but remember, what's gonna happen is we have pulled hundreds of uh technologists engineers developers out there in the cncf ecosystem to get their answers to some popular questions and our contestants are gonna have to try to guess what they think the most popular responses were.

B

So if we're ready uh players, are you ready? You have your hands on your buzzers ready, let's go ahead and we're about to start that first face-off and.

C

B

Producer paul, let's get us started.

B

Okay, so contestants, the question is name a reason someone would give for not backing up their laptop and the buzzer. The first buzz in was cat cat. Give me a reason someone would give for not backing up their laptop laziness. Show me: laziness, lazy,.

A

Number one answer on the days: yeah.

D

So that means that the gallery.

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Takes control and we'll move along, but before we go into that uh cat, let's get to know kat a little bit here, uh so cat you're joining us. I understand that you are quite the expert in um dr shem. So uh can you explain uh dr shim to me in five words or less.

C

A big, a big pain for me.

B

Sounds fantastic.

C

B

So uh we'll go ahead, our our first uh we're moving down the line here. I want you to imagine that our players are lined up and I'm kind of walking along and I'm gonna sidle up next to uh mr uh mr tim banks. So tim, uh I uh love to have you on the show here thanks for joining us, um oh.

D

My pleasure, my pleasure man.

B

I I understand that uh one of your hobbies is uh getting mad at people for putting beans in chile. Can you tell me more about this.

D

Well, I mean yeah, because I mean you have chili and then, when you put beans in it, it ceases to be chilly. It becomes something else. um It's I don't know what it is, but it's not just beany beets do yeah.

A

Like yankee.

D

Bean stew, I don't know like new england bean chowder, maybe but it's definitely not chili anymore,.

B

So chili with beans is monitoring and proper chili's observability, maybe correct correct all right.

E

Tim or maybe it's the other way around all I know.

D

Is the tracks chili with beans? Is a devops engineer.

B

There we go whoa, okay, okay, tim show me tell me a reason: someone might give for not backing up their laptop.

D

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B

Forgetfulness is not on the board, sorry to say sorry to say, but that's okay, so rogues gallery! You have one strike right now. Let's move on down to our our third player on the team, uh mr uh rich burrow, sir, how you doing today.

F

I'm good maddie, uh your hair is fantastic.

B

Your beard is fantastic, can you can you.

F

B

Number one uh beard care tip.

F

um Get a great barber.

B

Get a great barber: uh this is uh so basically higher your way to great uh great beer beard or higher your weight. A great beer, I don't know either either way kind of works out, pretty pretty fine. um Okay, so rich, uh can you tell me a reason someone might give for not backing up their laptop.

F

My data's, all in the cloud.

B

Show me it's all in the cloud. So who cares all right ah there we go picked. One up picked, one up.

B

Give me a reason someone would give for not backing up their laptop.

B

I don't care, I just don't care.

B

Tim, it's on you, man, give me another reason: someone would give for not backing up their laptop.

D

uh Let's go with there's nothing important on there.

B

Show me nothing important very well. Nice.

D

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B

Not important, okay, rich, give me a reason. Someone would give for not backing up their laptop.

F

B

Get up show me get ups.

E

B

Get ops is a big strike. Okay, all right contributes. This is your chance to steal, so our contribex folks uh don't uh have the opportunity to give one answer, and if that answer they come up with is one of the two remaining choices of these hundreds upon hundreds of developers. We surveyed they will steal and they will get all the points so uh caslin, you are the team captain um who we haven't introduced.

E

We can discuss this, though.

B

Right, yes, discuss it amongst yourselves, rogues gallery.

E

Or sorry yeah, my suggestion is, is some variation. I'm too slow. The backup was too slow. I.

G

Was thinking network failure, something like that? I.

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G

To say no network, okay,.

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G

Laptop where you're not allowed to connect to the internet, um that would be a problem. So what do y'all think you might do like.

E

So too slow or no network, which one do I want to go with.

G

There's also don't know how we haven't said that yet that's true, that's true! Oh.

E

I could go with that. One yeah, that's actually, probably that's a good one.

B

All right, okay, what your answer.

G

B

G

Okay, okay, we're all going for it right. Yes, yep.

B

Yep, what's the answer so our.

G

The answer from team sig contrib x is don't know how.

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Show me I don't know how to do it.

C

B

Excellent excellent: uh we uh we didn't get a chance to be here but we'll get you another play. But let's uh our next two uh players entering the face-off.

D

uh Did you get a reveal five.

B

Oh yeah, let's see what's.

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Number five, a pure hatred for all that is good.

C

E

Okay, okay, I don't think I would have kissed that.

G

One wait a second questions.

C

About this audience that you pulled.

F

I said get offs, I think that applies.

B

Judges decisions are final, rich uh next up in the face-off is uh going to be uh tim banks facing off against uh caslin fields, no against laura, said, wait who's next.

C

It's like it's castle. That's right.

G

First time.

B

You're getting okay yeah got it okay, so uh caslin before we before we jump in. um So you know you're part of team contrib x here. uh What is the uh one thing that you feel could be done to make the contributing experience worse to cloud native uh technologies.

G

Worse, haven't.

E

We tried everything.

G

We've tried a lot it's. hmm um We could get rid of the the contributor help pages in the website. I think that would make it really hard.

B

It'd be a lot easier to update if they didn't exist.

E

B

There we go make them all proprietary, okay, so caslin and tim hands on your buzzers. uh Let's see our next question in the face-off name, a reason you might not purge a pull request. Tim was our first buzz tim. What's a reason, you might not merge a pull request.

D

Because it's terrible.

B

Show me it's the worst thing. I've ever seen.

B

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B

So uh that means that uh contrib x will will take, take the board and I believe we will now be starting with josh. So uh josh show me a um tell me a reason that you might not merge a pull request.

E

Can we discuss this no.

B

E

Just you, which is me, yeah, yeah, um no cla, dco,.

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Show me did not sign the cl.

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B

Yeah did not do the right paperwork. What do we got? Survey says no. Okay. That brings us back to laura laura name, a reason. You might not merge a pull request. I'm gonna say doesn't.

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Include testing.

B

Does not include testing, show me text number one answer on the board: okay and then that brings us around to caslin castle. What's the reason you might not merge a pull request.

G

G

Took the best one already, I don't know about this, this audience you all pulled.

G

Can I say bad formatting show me like a giant pull request or something.

B

Bad formatting, bad formatting survey, says tabs versus spaces, we'll take it okay. That brings us back to josh josh. Give me another reason that you might not merge a pull request too busy to review. I am too damn busy survey says no, no, all right! So laura! You got two strikes.

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You still got four answers to reveal. Can you give me a reason you might not merge a pull request.

G

I'm gonna say did not pass the ci gate.

B

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Integration failure show me continuous.

B

Integration failure survey says all right: here's your chance to steal rogues; okay, so you have one chance to get one of these remaining four answers. For a reason, you might not merge a pull request so talk amongst yourselves.

F

All right mine is that I that we don't like the person who submitted it. I mean we just hate the person.

D

C

Just hate them personally.

D

What about like, yeah.

C

It's it's undocumented.

C

No documentation or it's just like a single, uh a single typo fix from somebody who's clearly, just like farming prs during hacktoberfest. That might be too specific.

D

Like adding used to favor or favorite unnecessarily, obviously.

C

D

I kind of like I kind of like no documentation.

C

Okay, yeah, I feel I feel I'm all right about documentation.

B

Okay, is that your answer show me no goddamn documentation and there we go rogues gallery steals award them the points. But let's see what was the number three answer?

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Number four: it breaks functionality.

D

That is definitely not a reason not to merge as far as I'm concerned and.

B

uh What is our final choice for not to merge a pull request.

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On that one yeah that.

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Would have been, I don't like don't like somebody. That's that's right.

B

I probably would have counted all right. Look. We've.

C

All been there.

B

Coming into our third third round, there's by the way, there's four four rounds so we're about halfway through our uh questions here so right now, it's a close game. Rogues gallery is only three points. Behind everything is up in the air, so uh bringing on down uh for contrib x, we will have josh and josh. Burkus is going to be facing off against uh rich burrows.

B

And let's go ahead and let's see what question we have contestants hands on the buzzers.

B

Producer, um oh there we go. What animal do you associate with kubernetes, I'm just saying locked for the buzzer.

E

B

You, oh yeah, I hang on um it says I've disconnected. Let me try to refresh if.

G

I start playing the jeopardy theme song is that bad.

B

I don't know, but right.

G

Now we've got uh josh.

B

Josh and rick have time to think about their answer. um While we wait for so.

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To work again, yeah.

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B

C

Without technical difficulties, my.

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Internet's been.

B

E

We still have the contest to see who can spot it. Turning green first and hit the buzzer there. We go. Okay, wait, wait.

B

Yeah here we go yes, oh we might, I might have to give you a new key listeners. Are viewers um nope? They say.

A

Do we want to switch to them doing voice buzzers.

G

G

Like it might be hard to tell who's first.

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Oh, I I think we just lost matt.

C

Okay, maybe it should just be louder.

G

How about whoever's louder answers the question we can.

C

Assume automatically ducks audio. So, oh that's true did.

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He lose matt. Is he back? I think we want to see a frozen mask.

C

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In the chat so.

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Our next question is what happened to matt's connection.

C

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Let's give: let's give our top five answers: there can.

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I get a call of duty chat for uh matt, stratton's internet connection. F in the chat twitch.

C

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Could use that as our buzzer question paul decides.

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The best answer between.

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G

Oh, we lost him again. I was going to say I think the reason that he lost internet is the squirrel got with wires.

E

Oh there we go yeah.

F

Why don't we do the voice buzzers.

D

Wait how about how about co-pilot? I know what happened right.

D

He he had to reboot his infinite tiller instance. There.

C

We go. Oh yeah, that's exactly what happened. Yeah.

E

I understand that I hate it when you have to do that. We've all taken forever.

D

You know, but I mean it's, it's you know aws. What are you gonna do.

B

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I think I'm back.

E

B

um But the buzzer might just be totally just so we're just gonna we're just gonna. Do it live okay, so contestants hands on your buzzers, the first one to yell really loud is, as who pauses in you have to wait till I'm done reading. What do you associate with kubernetes.

B

Okay, josh boston; okay, that I heard all right.

E

And my answer is giraffe.

B

Whoa show me giraffe that okay, rich you've got a chance to steal. If you come up with the number one answer on the board, for what animal do you associate with kubernetes, the rogues gallery will take control.

F

C

Cat and I are both making faces.

F

B

Showy, don't say it because we're still playing show me gopher.

B

Oh all right so uh then uh contrib x will play, um I believe, our next. That means we start off with laura laura. What animal do you associate with kubernetes? Give me a goose show me a goose.

B

Okay castle now is when it gets hard, because there's four more so caslin give me an animal that you associate with kubernetes cuttlefish, show me a cuttlefish, no okay, darn. It.

G

People don't gosh.

B

It's a good joke. I like it. I like it yeah we're going to send you home with the prize of a year's supply of rice ceroni. The san francisco tree all right, josh tell me an animal that you people associate with kubernetes, okay,.

E

Well, because people are confused, I'm gonna say whale show me a whale.

B

Yeah number five answer on the board: all right laura. We got three more to go. What's an animal that people associate with kubernetes.

G

I'm gonna say an owl show.

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Owl, no, no all right josh or no, it's caslin caslin. Yes, you got one strike left and if you get this wrong, then rogues get a chance to steal. We asked hundreds of developers and engineers what animal do they associate with kubernetes?

B

What's your guess.

G

So confused that uh the the fippy crew is not in um since we're not getting any of the others of the fippy crew, I'm gonna go octopus. Show me an octopus.

B

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Answers here all right, josh.

E

Oh okay, there's.

B

A lot of points on that board.

E

Right yeah, kubernetes kubernetes, who would what other very random animals would people.

D

B

Clock is running, you've got five.

E

Seconds four: three: to go with a mouse.

B

Show me a mouse, no okay, rogues. This is your chance to steal. If you can pick, the one of the answers is correct of what animal people associate with kubernetes. You will take this.

D

What round you think about penguin.

C

I uh I don't object to penguin, I don't they're just there. Just aren't that many animals that.

D

C

Associate with kubernetes.

D

Right, well, anything anybody says is going to be either like either four or three or two people would say it. So, hey.

G

I'm I'm calling foul because paul is over here making gestures.

D

Oh paul, we can. We can all collaborate on this one. That's okay,.

B

Pulse number 15. paul's, not on your team. Oh.

D

That paul sorry.

C

uh hmm Do we have.

D

To collaborate.

C

We can yeah is, it is a squid. A thing like owl was a no mouse.

D

Wasn't no, no, I don't know, would developers differentiate between octopus and squid.

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uh I mean the argo cd thing is an octopus right.

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C

D

C

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There's our one yeah.

D

Let's go squid, we should. We should then use them. You.

C

Think you think squid over.

D

I mean do we okay, do we want to ask the guy who said gopher.

C

That's fair, that's fair!.

C

um Or with penguin um due to the you know, whole linux thing, maybe a penguin is, is more likely.

D

Yeah, I feel like maybe all right. Let's.

F

B

It we're gonna need an answer. Okay, we're going penguin all right show me penguin no points in this round.

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B

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Let's go ahead and give them the points.

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Four answer:.

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With kubernetes.

E

Oh yeah, I get that that's again, it's a docker because it's slow.

E

Yeah I forgot about the other docker animals.

B

Okay, we've got our final round here. uh Rogues you're, gonna have to you're gonna have to to push this one along, so uh we're coming back to the face-off is gonna, be laura versus cat. Okay, if we're ready, let's go ahead and see what is our final question of today's game. What is your favorite programming, language and cat buzzes? In first cat, we asked hundreds of developers and engineers what is their favorite programming language? What was the number one answer python show me python number.

D

B

But the rogues gallery will play which brings us to tim, so, mr tim banks, uh what is the most pop one of the next most popular answers for what is your favorite programming language.

D

B

Show me go number two answer on the board: okay, rogues are on their way. Rich, no strikes you got it's wide open. Tell me what an answer might be for what is your favorite programming language.

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I want to say git ops, but I don't think that's it. um Javascript.

B

Show me javascript, javascript, okay, rogues are in in in this to win this okay. That brings us back to cat. We got three more to go and three strikes uh available to us. So uh what what's another answer for? What is your favorite programming language.

C

I don't agree with this, but I'm going to guess java.

B

C

No good, you know what good good I'm glad.

B

Okay, that brings us to tim tim. You still got two strikes available. You got three answers on the board. What is an answer for your favorite uh programming, language.

D

Oh c, plus plus.

B

Show me c plus plus no all right. This is down to you now rich you're gonna have to pull this off here. uh There's two strikes available. um Why don't you go ahead and tell me uh no two strikes available. You got two strikes on you. uh What is.

F

These answers for your favorite programming.

B

F

I wish I knew how to program that would make this easier. It's.

C

Okay, I can't program either, but I still get paid to do it.

E

B

Show me ruby number three, all right, you got two more to go rogues and you will probably walk away with this thing. So uh cat give me another uh favorite, programming, language answer. Rust, show me rust, and that is.

E

And I'm thinking we go with either bash or yaml, so.

B

E

um Which, which one, though,.

G

Surely there's something else we can do.

E

Yeah, I'm I'm sure not going with sql.

G

I was actually pretty sure about russ to be honest with you, but yeah. That was the.

C

G

Kind of banking, on um other things I can think of, are like pearl c sharp. We didn't say c, we said c plus plus, but we didn't say c yeah yeah, but.

E

This is favorite.

G

Yeah, like favorite.

E

G

Doing yeah, but you know okay, but what about bash? I do love bash personally, but I feel like most people, don't think of it as a programming.

E

I can see a lot of people putting it on the survey for fun.

G

E

See a lot of people putting in the survey for fun.

G

I could see yaml as going on the survey for fun too.

B

All right we're going to.

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Leave this audience.

E

G

What do we want to go with it's kubernetes.

C

Do we want to say yaml or do we want to do bash? I could go either way.

G

Like c is stronger.

B

I'm gonna give you about 30.

G

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I don't know I don't think c is likely if rust is not on there.

G

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Want to do yaml.

G

Because kubernetes yeah.

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But people don't know their.

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G

Let's, let's just do yaml because kubernetes, let's do it! Okay,.

B

Okay, that's your.

G

Answer the language, but let's do it anyway,.

B

We asked hundreds of.

G

Whales and octopus yeah- I know, but let's let's just do, let's go for it. Why not.

B

All right, we asked hundreds of engineers what is their favorite programming language? Your answer is yeah. Show me yaml.

G

I figured someone was going to say: that's, not the right language, that's not a language.

B

But the rogue gallery takes the points which brings them.

C

B

I believe, but let's go ahead and award them those points and let's take a look now and see what the final remaining answers were. Show me the number five answer for favorite programming, language excellence: that's.

C

Number six.

E

B

Number five answer, though: it was.

E

That just have gone with bash.

B

All right, which brings us to the end of our game, let's see who our winner was uh producers. The rogues gallery takes the first round, but don't worry uh contrabax. We have some lovely parting gifts again. Not only will you be going home with a virtual year's supply of rice cerrone, the san francisco treat uh we'll also give you the cncf certification of your choice. um This is also the lawyers would like us to say that paul and I cannot promise any such things and you will not get anything other than our undying appreciation.

B

uh Thank you. Everybody uh for uh tuning in players. Thank you for being part of this. um Don't forget uh to uh follow us here on twitch smash that follow button uh tomorrow we have uh coming up, we've got search magic with siam, and uh while we do uh cnc face-off every other wednesday, so we'll be back two weeks from now. There are shows monday through friday here on uh cncf tv. So please come back and uh thanks everybody for being a part of this.

B

uh This first show we'll see you in two weeks for the next round.

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