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CNCF SIG Contributor Strategy-Contributor Growth WG 2020-09-15
B
C
E
F
A
A
So
I
can
see
my
friends
even
though
I
don't
work
at
the
same
company
so
for
the
agenda
like
I
didn't
want
to
like
guilt-trip
people
and
like
dig
through
what
people
said
they
were
working
on
two
months
ago
or
whatever
I'd
rather
talk
about.
If
people
have
spoons
or
forks
or
cutlery
to
work
on
something
now
and
it's
okay
to
say
no
and
what
that
is
like.
I
had
time
today,
which
was
really
exciting
to
finally
open
that
pr.
A
So
I
was
super
pumped
and
if
other
people
have
things
that
they
have
energy
to
work
on,
we
can
talk
about
it.
If
people
are
super
burnt
out.
You
hurt
me.
A
C
What
I
did
when
I
saw
the
pr
I
was
like
I
clapped
like
literally
it
was
like
real
time,
so
I
was
like
yes
yeah.
Well,
I'm
definitely
gonna
start
on
right
now
for
this
hour
on
the
community
management
strategy
piece.
C
This
is
like
the
advice
that
we
would
give
to
any
project.
That
would
that's
interested
in
the
whole
like
well,
who
takes
care
of
my
people
and
how
do
we
do
this
element?
Someone
started
that
and
then
I'm
also
going
to
start
on
recruiting
contributors
document
just
some
like
high
level
stuff
there,
because
there's
a
lot
of
resources
and
then
also
like
all
the
stuff
in
our
heads,
but
that's
it
for
me.
C
C
So
that's
my
own
personal
guild
trip
there
yeah,
but
yeah
we're
getting
started
today.
Josh.
Where
are
you.
D
A
Yeah,
I
know
that
they're,
not
they
weren't,
able
to
make
it
today,
karen
and
jennifer.
I
think
we're
working
on
a
ladder,
but
I
haven't
haven't
seen
anything.
D
Yeah,
if
you
want,
I
still
haven't
done
any
looking
into
the
annual
assessment
due
diligence
stuff
to
see
what
we
could
glean
there
because,
like
I
said
originally,
someone
else
was
going
to
do
that.
I.
C
Know
I
was
kind
of
hoping
that,
like
bogdan,
could
could
like
come
school
us
on
that
part,
because
I
feel
like
we're
all
kind
of
like
batman
in
the
dark,
but
we're
all
like
this
sounds
great
so
anyway,
I'm
sorry
to
get
off
topic
that
just
excites
the
hell
out
of
me
out
of
everything
that
we're
doing
on
the
governance
side.
I
don't
know
why,
but
when
I
saw
that
I
was
like
so
anyway,
all
right.
A
A
What
I
want
to
do
is
take
what
I
had
there
and
kind
of
take
some
of
the
other
things
that
jennifer
and
I
have
been
working
on
for
porter
and
putting
that
up
at
the
cncf
level
somewhere
and
just
open
a
pr,
and
then
I
don't
know
like
the
google
doc
things.
I
think
it's
stalled
really
easy
because
they
get
piled
on
with
a
lot
of
things
that
aren't
immediately
actionable.
A
A
I
just
like
to
open
pr's
and
if
people
have
comments,
I'd
love
for
them
to
maybe
make
edits
instead
of
comments
for
some
things.
If
we
can,
I
think
that
would
help
me
a
lot
yeah.
I'm
gonna
encourage
people
to
do
that.
C
Yeah,
I
was
thinking
a
very
similar
because
watching
your
experience
and
and
josh's
experience,
I
was
thinking
the
same
thing
of
more
like
well.
Let
me
pr
the
framework
of
the
doc
in
so
people
get
like
where
we're
gonna
go
with
this
yeah
and
then
like
we
all
just
kind
of
collaboratively
fill
in
the
holes
together.
C
That's
where
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
thinking
too
just
based
on
like
because
it
also
it's
just
a
lot
of
information,
a
review
too.
So
it's
almost
like
you
know
like
giving
somebody
some
large
code
piece.
So
it's
like
because
you
want
like,
as
I'm
a
reviewer
like,
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
giving
you
my
whole
time.
C
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
I
understood
why
we
originally
thought
we
wanted
to
do
it
that
way,
yeah
of
course,
but
having
gone
through
it.
I
know
for
me
personally:
it's
not
it's
not
working.
It
makes
me
feel
really
stuck
yeah,
you
know,
so
I'm
gonna
try
something
different
awesome.
I
hope
people
are
okay
with
it.
Yeah.
C
A
C
Idea,
yeah,
because
that's
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
do
today
here
is
I
kind
of
put
the
framework
together
for
these
docs
and
then
put
a
bunch
of
to-do's
and
stuff
in
there
that
that
might
be
good
for
our
crew
as
well.
C
C
A
That's
cool,
too,
why
do
you
have
one
question?
Actually
it's
not
really
the
contributor
growth,
but
for
the
the
abstract
or
whatever
the.
A
What
is
that
called
the
time
slot
we
asked
for
for
kubecon,
oh
yeah
yeah
it
got
submitted.
I
know
we
wanted
to
pre-record
it
right
or
we're
going
to
do
it
live
and
there's
nothing
pre-recorded.
I
couldn't
tell
if
there
was
going
to
be
yeah.
D
We
do
not
want
to
pre-record
it
whether
or
not
we
will
get
that
option
is
another
question
entirely
because
it
only
occurred
to
me
after
I
submitted
it
that
what
I
submitted
will
work
very
poorly
as
a
pre-recorded
thing,
because
what
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
find
out
who's
in
the
audience
right.
I'm
expecting
a
small
audience
for
this,
because
the
only
appropriate
audience
are
basically
project
leads
for
cnc
of
projects
or
projects
that
want
to
join
cncf.
D
So
if
we
get
seven
qualified
audience,
members
I'll
be
pretty
happy,
but
then
it
depends
on
who
those
seven
are
right,
because
if
we
got
seven
people
who
are
all
from
incubating
projects,
then
they
need
to
know
a
very
different
set
of
stuff
than
seven
people
who
are
from
projects
that
are
looking
to
apply
for
sandbox.
A
D
So
we're
gonna
end
up
having
that
conversation
with
cncf,
because
they're
still
using
oh,
what's
the
name
of
the
platform
in
trotto
yeah,
which
makes
it
very
hard
to
do
anything.
That's
not
pre-recorded.
D
C
Well,
my
thing
to
you
is
like:
could
you
do
like
a
some
kind
of
pre-recorded
segment
part
and
do
what
we
did
for
steering
where
it
was
like
live
q?
A.
C
A
E
D
Well,
honestly,
I
mean
in
that
case,
if
we
have
to
pre-record
something
what
I
would
envision
is
like
a
five
to
seven
minute
thing
on
you
know
here
are
all
the
things
your
project
needs
to
have
at
the
various
maturity
levels,
and
then
you
immediately
cut
over
to
the
q,
a
of
okay,
so
we're
here
to
help
you
get
those
things.
E
D
A
It's
worth
trying,
let's
yeah,
let's
just
see
if
we
can
make
it
work,
you
know
I
want
to
know
if
people
show
up.
D
C
A
One
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
anybody
about
anything
but
we'll
just
prioritize,
what's
relevant
to
the
talk
at
hand.
Yeah,
you
know
that's
fine
and
I
think
also,
let's
not
be
afraid
to
redirect
people
to
the
right
thing.
I
mean
we
have
so
many
different
forums
for
talking
to
people
who
are
interested
about
engaging
with
the
community
that
the
fact
that
they
show
up
means
are
interested,
let's
just
find
the
right
way
to
like
keep
them
talking
to
us
in
some
appropriate
fashion.
A
That's
all
I
care
about,
but
I'd
rather
not
just
like,
say
it's
not
gonna
work
and
be
like
oh
entourage.
Let's
just
give
up
yeah
love
to
find
these
people
and
engage
with
them.
A
A
D
Okay,
can
I
ask
you
something
on
a
completely
different
topic,
of
course,
for
governance.
I'm
currently
working
on
the
section
of
that
sort
of
a
summary
of
here
are
all
the
bits
of
paperwork
that
your
project
needs
to
have
in
a
general
sense,
yeah,
and
I
wanted
to
find
out
which
ones
of
these
somebody
in
contributor
growth
was
working
on.
So
I
can
just
stub
those
out
and
say
link
to
link
to
other
document
here.
D
Sure,
presumably
general
contribution
process
would
be
one
of
those
that
would
be
either
in
templates
directory
or
general
instruction
when.
A
D
Yes,
no!
That's
what
I'm
talking
about!
That's
exactly
what
I'm
talking
about
the
document
that
has
things
like
you
know.
We
expect
all
prs
to
be
squash
commits
you
know
those
sorts
of
things.
Yeah,
the
you
know
the
you
need
to
sign
the
cla,
those
that
sort
of
information.
A
That's
in
the
contributing
pr,
that's
in
the
agenda:
okay,.
A
E
I'm
planning
on
doing
I'm
planning
on
it
community.
Oh
excuse
me
hold
on
me.
Let
me
let
me
swallow
first.
C
D
No,
I
just
what
I
have
now
is:
you
need
to
have
some
place
that
tells
people
when
your
meetings
are
and
what
your
official
channels
yup.
A
Yeah
we
we
made
the
assumption
for
when
I
wrote
that
contributing
guide
that
it
was
somewhere
on
the
readme
and
we
just
kind
of
like
hand
waved
if
there's
an
official
like
it's
always
going
to
be
in
x
document
that'd
be
helpful,
because
then
we
could
just
link
to
something
called.
You
know
comms.md
or
whatever.
It
is
okay.
D
D
This
is
getting
into
sort
of
steadily
more
advanced
paperwork,
depending
on
the
maturity
and
size
of
the
project.
Yeah,
release
process.
C
That
would
be
helpful,
honestly
yeah
I
feel
like,
and
I
feel
because
I
feel,
like
most
engineers
always
want
to
mold
it
into
their
engineering
org,
which
is
fine.
Honestly,
I
mean
that's
what
they
know
right
but
like
for
me
like
a
best
practices
and
like
a
who
who
who
can
guide
you
and
like.
D
Okay,
so
that's
one
that
we
need
to
generate
yeah
and
one
of
the
I
mean
honestly.
My
main
point
in
that
is
whatever
your
release
process
is.
It
should
be
written
down
yeah,
which
is
for
two
reasons.
One
is
for
managing
expectations
and
the
second
reason
is,
you
know:
people
leave
and
I
cannot
tell
you
the
number
of
projects
I
have
been
on
where
you
know,
release
x
was
delayed
for
six
months,
because
nobody
knew
how
to
build
the
packages
so
yeah
do
you
want.
D
Yeah,
the
I
don't
have
a
strong
opinion,
I
mean
yeah.
Eventually
I
I
mean
I
think
the
template
should
be
the
templates.
The
templates
aren't
really
contributor
growth
is
writing
more
of
the
templates,
but
the
templates
aren't
like
a
specific
working
group.
You
follow
me
yep.
That's
fine,
because,
like
we're
going
to
be
writing
templates
for
these
purely
governance,
things
like
leadership,
selection,
the
so,
but
also
I
want
for
each
one
of
these.
I
want
some
narrative
in
a
template.
D
This
is
how
big
you
are
when
you
need
this,
the
because
so
some
of
them,
like
project
trademark
advice,
really
you
only
care
about
if
your
project
has
reached
the
point
of
getting
commercial
adoption,
the
that's
the
point
where
you
have
to
assign
somebody
to
work
with
the
cncf
and
what
your
trademark
policy
is
going
to
be
and
all
those
other
things.
F
So
you
just
reminded
me
of
something.
E
You
know
it
would
be
a
really
interesting
tie-in
to
that,
because
a
lot
of
projects
just
still
don't
even
understand
the
cncf
services.
So
I'm
almost
even
wondering
if,
in
some
of
the
templates.
C
D
C
Because,
like
a
template
could
be
like,
you
know,
one
step
talk
to
cncf
about
xyz
thing.
You
know
they
can
help
you
with
this.
You
know
number
two,
you
know
do
xy
like
that
kind
of
thing,
so
I
think
that's
where
people
get
lost
with
the
like,
where
cncf
can
come
in
because
they
can
actually
come
in
everywhere.
It
seems
like
in
like,
but
in
weird
ways
and
like
they'll,
only
do
so
much
in
like
I
mean-
and
I
don't
mean
this
in
any
negative
way
by
the
way
by
recording.
A
This
seems
to
be
pretty
standard
and
she
goes
through
like
pretty
exhaustively
like
everything
that
needs
to
happen
all
the
documents
how
trademark
works?
What
are
all
the
services
that
cncf
offers?
How
to
study?
That's
all
new
and
awesome,
so
yeah,
and
so
it's
like
I
mean
obviously
after
our
sig
has
created
more
content,
we'll
be
more
involved
in
this
and
it'll
be
start
referencing,
our
templates,
but
I
don't
know
like
this.
This
is
actually
incredibly
helpful,
yeah
and
understand
what
projects
there
are
and
what
they
can
offer
and
like.
A
C
No,
no,
no,
I'm
just
saying
like
in
areas
where
we
can
highlight
or
should
highlight
like
we
can
like
even
like
you
know,
like
the
recruiting
contributors
doc
like
people,
don't
know
that
you
know
they'll
pay
for
certain,
like
services
or
or
whatnot,
or
even
contractors
in
certain
cases.
So
it's
just
kind
of
like
just
informing
them
of
hey
talk
to
you
know,
don't
forget
to
talk
to
you,
know
amy
or
your
cncf
rep,
about
what
they
could
do
for
you
or
something
like
that.
That's
all
nothing.
E
A
Do
we
want
to
put
that
navy
in
the
like
one
of
our
advisory
things
not
in
the
template,
but
in
the
advisory
like
guidance
stocks?
Maybe
that
just
talk
about
like
if
you
haven't
onboarded
in
a
while
or
you
weren't
part
of
the
onboarding
and
now
you're
a
maintainer.
Here's
a
refresher
course
yup.
D
I
I
think
that
actually
makes
a
lot
of
sense
because,
like
I'm
planning
to
put
the
things
into
the
individual
sections
where
they
make
sense,
but
it
would
be
super
useful
to
also
have
hey
here's,
this
list
of
things
that
cncf
does
yeah.
You
know
and
here's
a
link
to
the
current
course
on
cncf
services,
yep.
D
E
C
Like
read
this
documentation,
so
that's
why
it's
cool
if
it's
like
hey
by
the
way.
This
is
also
now
like
a
service
of
cncf
or
something
like
where
we
can.
I'm
not
saying,
and
I'm
not
saying
that
we're
pushing
that
it's
just
if
there's,
if
there's
ever
any
point
in
like
our
templates
or
whatever,
where
we
can
like
say,
hey,
there's
extra
hands
for
you.
I
just
think
we
should
do
it.
That's
all,
especially
with
the
ambiguous
stuff.
D
Yeah
it
would,
it
would
go
when,
wherever
our
top
level
advisory
folder
is
do
we
know
yet,
where
stuff
is
going
to
go
once
it's
approved
material.
E
Oh
in
the
project
template
repo,
if
it's
a
template,
what
about
narrative
stuff.
C
I
guess
that
would
be
our
repo
yeah,
I
guess,
or
I
was
gonna
say
or
it
could
still
go
in
there
under
like
a
under
a
like
a
guidelines.
Folder.
A
So
the
template
repo
is
supposed
to
be
like
porter
somebody
who's
like
brand
new,
wants
to
make
something,
that's
destined
for
the
scenes
yeah,
for
they
just
want
to
follow.
Cncf
recommended
guidelines
right.
They
could
clone
this
repo
and
hopefully
not
be
deleting
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff
that
doesn't
belong
in
their
repo
going
forward
right.
They
shouldn't
be
carrying
around
copies
of
our
docs.
A
Essentially,
so
the
templates
make
sense
they
edit
and
they're
theirs
forever
right,
like
the
contributing
guide,
the
governance,
the
latter
owner
code
owners
owners
files,
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
like
our
guidance,
docs
that
they're
not
going
to
edit
and
have
nothing
to
do
with
their
project.
And
it's
really
just
our
content.
D
I
yeah
well,
so
you
know
I
should
take
this
to
the
general
contributor
strategy
meeting,
because
I
kind
of
feel
like
there
needs
to
be
an
approval
process,
because
a
lot
of
these
guidance
stocks
are
kind
of
works
in
progress
and
at
least
within
governance,
we're
about
to
get
into
guidance
stocks
that
have
to
do
with
cncf
requirements
and
those
really
need
to
be
approved
by
someone
in
the
toc
before
projects
start
taking
them
as
guidance.
D
C
I
guess
it'll
be
better
when
we
have
some
examples
to
with,
like,
I
guess
is
the
I
guess,
is
the
governance
doc
ready
for
like
people
at
toc
to
get
blessings
kind
of
deal.
E
All
right,
I
guess
like
let's
just
see
what.
C
D
A
A
C
Yeah
that
would
actually
help
us
with
the
whole
idea
of
you
know
what
carolyn's
saying
of
just
pr
and
iterate.
If
we
could
just
pr
it
into
a
drafts
folder,
because
then
the
intention
is
clearly
a
draft
and
then
it
would
just
like
the
pr
would
land
and
then
I
could
you
know,
then
we
could
collaborate
on
it.
I
don't
know
yeah.
A
C
That
sounds
like
a
good
idea,
because
then
it's
then
our
prs
can
move
a
lot
faster
too.
C
E
A
So
just
making
that
issue
about
catching
people
up
what
the
cncf
can
help
with
from
people
who
missed
the
latest
onboarding.
E
E
D
D
Oh
yeah,
okay,
okay,
okay
I'll
put
that
down
to
yours,
then:
okay,
yeah,
okay,
the
yeah
and
we've
got
a
couple
other
like
the
project,
trademark
interface
and
then
also
conformance
requirements,
because
if
the
project
starts
participating
in
conformance
testing
with
the
cncf,
somebody
from
the
project
side
needs
to
handle
that.
D
So
and
if
there's
multiple
companies
sponsoring
the
project,
then
they
need
to
have
some
sort
of
governance
process.
For
that.
D
The
yeah
sorry
we
just
we
started
on
the
advice,
end
of
things
yeah
and
have
been
getting
that
knocked
out.
Rather
than
than
on
the
template
end
of
things
and
the
governance.
The
governance
template
is
going
to
be
complicated
because,
basically,
we're
going
to
have
like
six
different
ones
for
the
six
major
sort
of
governance
structures.
D
Because
there's
no
way
to
genericize
it
between
one
project
that
might
be
you
know
the
most
common
type,
which
is
what
we
call
founder
leader,
where
the
people
who
created
the
project
are
also
the
current
leadership
yeah.
I
you
know
all
the
way
up
to
projects
that
have
actual
formal
elections.
A
Yeah,
well,
we
decided
to
just
write
down
what
we
do
right
now
and
then,
as
a
group
evaluate
and
improve
later,
so
I'm
gonna
steal
your
your
stuff
once
you're
finished,
that's
basically
what
I
decided
when
I
realized.
I
couldn't
take
it
right
now.
D
D
A
People
under
the
cncf
every
month,
every
time.
D
A
That's
in
my
contributing
guide,
yeah
yeah!
No,
I
my
my
point
was
just
that
it
increases
how
many
people
are
going
to
be
looking
for
a
governance,
template
yeah.
A
C
C
A
C
C
G
A
I
don't
know
I
don't.
I
don't
have
any
more,
though
I
have
to
have
to
write
my
talk,
though,
because
they
want
me
to
record
it.
What
talk
thursday?
I
have
you
heard
of
kubernetes
virtual
summit.
D
A
I
love
it,
I
don't
know
they.
They
asked
me
to
speak
in
it
about
whatever
I
wanted
to,
and
so
I'm
like.
Well,
no
one
lets
me
talk
about
cnab
and
porter.
So,
okay,
I
I'm
like.
I'm
writing
the
talk
in
a
week.
D
G
A
A
A
Yeah,
I
don't
know,
I
think
it's
a
newer
conference,
I
think,
did
they
start
last
year.
I.
A
C
C
D
Cloudy,
I
actually
have
not
submitted
any
non-maintainer
sessions
because
you
know
one
of
my
various
jobs
for
red
hat
is
shepherding
all
of
the
red
header
submissions
and
so
by
the
time
I'm
done
with
that,
I'm
like
I
don't
want
to
look
at
another
talk
proposal,
I
absolutely
don't
yeah,
plus
plus,
most
likely
I
would
submit
in
my
own
tracks,
which
means
I
then
have
to
reject
the
talk,
because
you
can't
pick
your
own
talk
so.
A
D
E
I
didn't
see
your
talk
at
the
open
source
conference
josh.
How
did
it
go.
D
Oh,
it
was
fun
I
need
to
find
out
if
they
put
the
videos
for
those
up
anywhere.
D
D
And
it
was,
it
was
actually
particularly
good
because
I
was
back
to
back
with
henrik
from
mysql.
So
the.
D
Did
you
pre-record
your
video
or
did
it
yeah,
in
which
case
right
like
if
that's
going
to
be
stalled?
For
some
reason,
I
can
just
put
it
up
myself.
There
you
go.
The
pre-recording
thing
is
just
so
weird
because
you
know
it's
weird
to
be
a
case
of
I'm
used
to
like
the
night.
Before
the
talk.
I
don't
do
anything
because
I'm
rehearsing
and
and
now
I'm
like-
I
did
all
that
three
weeks
ago,
I'm
just
showing
up
for
the
q
a.
D
Oh
see,
I
do
so
much
better
with
an
audience
like
one
of
the
things
they
were
like
you
know,
can
you
do
the
little
inset
video
thing
and
I'm
like?
Well,
I
really
actually
can't,
because
I
can't
do
this
talk
unless
I
get
up
and
walk
around
yeah,
I
might
actually
buy
this
little
camera
tracking
thing.
They
make
this
device
for
people
who
do
sports
that
automatically
tracks
you,
oh
yeah,
the.
A
D
Oh
see,
we've
got
because
I
have
the
cordless,
headset
right
and
then
we've
got
my
office
is
down
in
what
we
call
the
rumpus
room,
which
is
the
converted
basement,
which
is
mostly
one
giant
space.
So.
A
D
A
D
It
was
fun
and
I
think
it
really
helped
people
understand
how
it
was
supposed
to
work.
This
is
back
when
postcode's
replication
was
new
and
people
really
understand
the
mechanism
right,
and
so
the
hats
showed
whether
you
were
currently
the
primary
or
a
replica
and
the
the
bungee
cords
were
network
connections
between
the
nodes
and
the
playing
cards
were
we
were
passing
around
disc
blocks.
D
The
I
got
people
out
of
their
seats
so.
A
D
That's
one
of
the
things
I
always
wondered
about
these
online
talks
is
okay.
How
many
of
the
people
who
are
logged
in
are
actually
listening
to
this
and
how
I'm
not
in
another
town,
yeah
yep,
the
I
mean,
because
you
always
know
I
mean
you
know
when
you're
giving
a
talk
live
right.
You've
got
that
certain
crew
who
are
in
the
back
three
rows,
reading
their
email
and
and
they're.
D
Only
in
your
talk,
because
they
were
in
that
room
for
the
last
talk
and
they
don't
want
to
be
bothered
to
get
up
the,
but
with
online
it's
worse
right,
because
somebody
could
have
turned
off
the
sound
they
could
have
put
their
headset
down
and
gone
to
lunch.
You
wouldn't.
A
Know
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
affect
you
if
they're
doing
that,
so
you
can't
let
it.
I
can't
let
that
bother
me
right.
If
they're
streaming
me
and
not
listening
yeah,
it
ultimately
doesn't
hurt
me
at
all.
You
know
so
again,
I'm
always
looking
just
to
have
a
conversation
with
someone
like
that's
what
these
talks
are
for.
D
The
oh
that
reminds
me
I
do
need
to
do
a
write
up
for
nancy
about
you
know
some
small
things
that
we
could
maybe
do
to
improve.
D
Things
like
it
would
be
really
useful
if
the
moderator
knew
how
many
people
we
had
in
the
audience
yeah,
which
is
not
something
we
actually
know
because
one
of
the
talks
I
was
at
you
know,
the
answer
was
like
five
and
which
we
found
out
during
the
q
a
when
there
were
no
questions,
yeah
yeah,
and
if
I'd
known
that
in
advance,
I
would
have
actually
seeded
some
questions.
D
A
I
went
to
devops
state
chicago
and
they
ran
it
on
a
different
platform.
Did
you
go
or
no
okay?
They
did.
They
did
a
different
platform.
They
did,
oh,
which
I
call
discord.
I
think
so
there
was
like
breakout
rooms
for
our
channels
or
whatever
for
every
single
speaker.
I
really
like
that.
It'd
be
nice.
A
If
kubecon
could
do
that
as
well,
it
was
awkward
when
we
wanted
to
chat
in
slack
afterwards
from
a
for
a
talk
because,
like
there
was
a
channel
in
slack
for
every
track
and
like
the
community
track
was
getting
overwhelmed,
it
was
really
hard
to
be
like
no.
I
want
to
speak
about
this
topic
with
people.
A
No
one
seemed
to
understand
threads
because
slack
and
it
was
hard
to
engage
with
people
about
the
talk
after
the
talk,
you
know
what
I
mean
and
it
worked
better
when
there
was
pre-created
little
places
where
you
could
talk
for
an
hour
or
two
after
the
talk
was
over
actually
and
still
get
the
speaker
and
get
other
people
who
are
who
are
keen
to
talk
about.
I
think
we
were
talking
about
like
built.
A
community
building
in
for
was
it
devops
days
in
brazil.
A
I
was
faster
than
that
speaker
for
like
an
hour.
You
know
stuff
like
that,
whereas
you
can't
really
have
that
sustained
level
of
engagement
with
somebody
even
for
like
two
minutes
after
the
talk,
because
the
net
talk
has
started
and
and
like
three
other
talks
finished
in
that
track,
and
everyone's
talking
over
each
other
in
slack
and
you're
all
trying
to
share
the
same
channel,
which
is
hard.
D
Open
source
summit
for
linux
foundation
open
source
summit,
the
community
track
channel,
ended
up
being
its
own
thing
yeah.
It
ended
up
being
like
this
running
discussion
from
community
managers
about
stuff
that
was
going
on,
and
that
was
only
10
generally
related
to
any
of
the
talks
that
were
being
given.
A
D
Down
to
the
point
where
a
lot
of
the
speakers
ended
up
using
threading
in
order
to
keep
the
stuff
for
their
talks
separate
the,
but
in
for
kubecon,
though
the
the
cncf
slack
channels
were
pretty
dead,
and
I
think
that's
mostly
because
if
a
kubernetes
or
related
you
know,
geek
wants
to
chat
with
people
on
slack,
they
already
have
their
own
slack.
D
C
Let
me
share
my
screen
with
you.
I
want
to
get
your
take
on
this
document
and
it's
nothing
that
I
was
just
talking
about
either
a
whole
other
half
fake
document.
I
have
several
of
those
these
days.
I
never
thought
I
was
gonna
be
that
person
until
I
was
so
here
it
is
hold
on
share
my
screen.
C
So
this
is
what
I
was
thinking
about.
I
really
think
that
cncf
should
rename
ziggs.
I
think
it's
like
a
thorn,
and
I
know
naming
is
hard,
and
so
I
think
that's
fine.
I
think
it's
okay
to
revisit
words.
C
C
C
Hallway
combo
kind
of
thing
because,
like
it
seems
like
cigs,
have
a
hard
time
recruiting
contributors.
They
always
want
to
know
what
they
own
always
think.
It's
a
kubernetes
cig,
just
general
confusion.
I
think,
and
it's
kind
of
like.
C
I
know
what
they're
trying
to
do
right
like
a
we
know,
but
it's
kind
of
like
I
look
at
the
toc
like
the
president
of
the
united
states,
even
though
it's
multiple
people,
but
it's
like
that
kind
of
president
role
and
then
each
one
of
us
is
kind
of
like
the
cabinet,
because
we're
advising
that
council
in
our
areas
of
specialty
right.
G
C
C
C
No,
I
feel
like
it
provides
more
of
a
purpose
and
a
mission,
whereas
like
sig
and
other
projects
always
refers
to
sort
of
like
a
shared
ownership
and
common
and
commonality
around
this
one
thing
that
you're
gonna
get
work
done
in
where
sure
that's
us,
but
we're
also
more
of
like
consulting
and
advising
and
like
giving
our
experience,
which
is
more
of
like
advisory,
even
though
we're
like
doing
work
too,
obviously
we're
making
things,
but
that's
the
the
artifacts
that
we're
making
are
still
like
advisory
right
so-
and
I
know
some
of
the
other
cncf
sigs
have
had
issues
with
like
just
recruiting
people
for
their
causes
and
like
people
think,
like
you
know
in
in
the
case
of
like
a
sick
strategy,
people
think
it's
sick
strategy
for
kubernetes
and
then
you
own
the
security
process
for
kubernetes,
for
instance.
C
So
anyway,
this
is
just
something
meta
that
has
been
literally
in
my
folder
for
months.
I'm
not
kidding
you
months
that
I
have
yet
to
ship
that
I
also
am
like
wow,
I'm
blocking
myself
at
this
point,
but
this
is,
if
you
all
had
it,
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
show
it
to
you
all,
because
it's
like,
if
you
have
any
thoughts
or
anything,
I
would
love
to
hear
them.
So
that's
really.
It.
A
D
A
A
C
A
I
would
say
that
when
I've
invited
people
to
contribute
to
this
with
me,
it
has
people's
hesitation
has
had
less
to
do
with
the
name.
Sig
though,
and
more
to
do
with.
People
are
interested
to
contribute
to
kubernetes,
because
they
perceive
of
value
to
like
their
resume
and
network
to
be
associated
with
kubernetes,
that
they
don't
feel
they
get
just
being
associated
with
cncf.