►
From YouTube: CNCF SIG Contributor Strategy Governance WG 2020-07-21
Description
CNCF SIG Contributor Strategy Governance WG 2020-07-21
A
A
B
We
kept
changing
the
time
on
you,
so
it's
the
movie
great
moving
meeting.
A
C
A
C
B
Okay,
hello,
everyone?
I
guess
we're
recorded
this-
is
awkward
because
I've
already
started
welcome
to
stig
contributor
strategy,
our
contributor
growth
working
group
for
july
21st,
2020
post,
our
notes
here
in
chat.
B
B
E
B
So
I
just
started
writing
down
some
of
the
things
that
I
know
you
know
always
has
to
be,
and
anna
repo.
We
also
now
finally
have
a
project
templates
repository,
which
is
pretty
cool.
I
think
most
of
the
things
that
this
working
group
creates
is
gonna
end
up
here,
okay,
which
is
pretty
exciting.
So
let
me
link
that
here
as.
B
B
I
think
yeah
we
still
need
to
make
this
a
template
repository,
but
that's
the
idea
is
that
it
should
be
like
this
one
right
here,
for
example,
where
you
can
say,
use
this
template
and
it'll.
Then
kick
you
off
into
making
a
neighbor
process
for
you
from
it.
Oh
cool,
okay,
that's
the
idea,
so
we
have
contributing
pretty
far
along.
I
think
that's
pretty
much
right
at
the
point
where
I
can
submit
this
as
a
pr.
B
I
know
I've
said
that
a
couple
times,
but
now
we
have
repo,
so
I
should
be
able
to
do
that.
This
week
I
started
a
contribution
ladder.
B
I
think
we
have
a
whole
bunch
of
examples
ready
for
people
to
start
working
on
a
template
oops.
I
agreed
with
your
comment
and
then
it
didn't
didn't.
Take
your
comment
there.
You.
B
B
There
you
go
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
more.
B
But
the
idea
is
then,
hopefully
we
can
have
people
start
working
on
pieces
of
content
instead
of
all
of
us
working
on
one
at
a
time
yeah.
So
we
can
make
a
little
bit
more
progress
as
we
keep
chugging
along
on
these
things
is.
B
B
The
idea
is
that
it
lays
out
what
are
possible
roles
yeah
and
then
how
to
how
to
get
it
and
what
are
the
responsibilities
and
things
like
that,
so
here
a
couple:
okay,
yeah,
like
here's,
one
from
openstack,
they
kind
of
tell
you
like:
what's
it
like
to
be
a
team
lead?
How
do
you
get
it,
and
what
do
you
have
to
do
to
keep
it
things
like
that.
B
A
A
Okay,
because
I
feel
like
the
owner's
file
is
like
the
quickest
way
to
find
like
the
stakeholders
whenever,
if
like.
If
and
when,
I
need
something
yeah.
A
E
All
righty,
so
when
it
comes
to
specific
files
like,
I
feel
like
one
of
the
things
to
go
back
to
is
what
the
role
of
this
specific
working
group
is
and
and
like
make
sure
that
lines
up.
A
E
Though
no
it
is
like,
if
I
look
at
number
one
goal,
provide
best
practices
and
resources
for
managing
and
interacting
with
contributors
to
cncf
projects
that
fits
right
in
there.
So
it's
it
because
the
the
the
fine
coloring
I
think
about
is
like
what
is
the
owner's
file
for
and
we're
talking
about,
stakeholders
and
like
that.
The
project
has
specific
stakeholders
that
are
documented
and
how
to
contact
people,
and
maybe
the
owner's
file,
is
one
of
those
things
that
we
include
as
a
template.
B
F
Hi,
it's
josh,
hey
good,
to
see
you
here
yeah,
so
the
other
requirement
is
within
github,
enforced
by
prowl.
I
don't
within
github
within
kubernetes,
enforced
by
prowl.
If
you
are
in
a
specific
owner's
file,
then
some
one
who
is
an
approver
from
that
file
needs
to
sign
off
on
any
change
that
touches
that
directory.
If
you
follow
me.
B
B
So
jennifer
the
the
and
something
else
that
you
were
referring
to
like
how
to
contact
people
etc.
Was
that
something
beyond
approval
or.
E
I
was
thinking
of
it
is
like
people
you
would
like,
like
if
you,
what
information
you
get
out
of
the
owner's
file,
and
so
if
I
know
if
I
look
and-
and
maybe
this
is
just
my
hack,
if
there
is
an
owner's
file,
if
there
are
sub
projects
or
subdirectories
inside
of
it
say,
for
example,
documentation
and
someone
is
specifically
assigned
to
that
area.
E
B
Bag,
but
as
far
as
just
making
a
template
repository,
I
think
this
is
something
that
we've
said
before:
that
governance
and
contributor
growth
they're
going
to
have
overlap.
B
I
think
governance
overlaps
with
owner's
file
a
lot
we're
just
suggesting
for
templates
that
we
should
have
an
owner's
file,
what
we
put
in
it
as
far
as
the
template
content
and
suggestion
for
what
people
should
put
in
there
or
whatever,
whatever
the
text
ends
up
being
in
there
other
than
maybe
saying
how
to
use
it
or
probably
be
a
collaborative
effort
between
the
two
working
groups.
F
And
I
wouldn't
see
that
going
into
the
owner's
file
template
itself
like
because
the
who
gets
to
be
an
owner
rules
is
going
to
be
a
public
document
for
the
project,
so
that
would
be
in
contributors.md
or
governance.md
or
whatever?
Okay,
rather
than
being
in
the
actual
owners
file.
F
B
B
Okay,
as
long
as
we're
both,
I
just
wanna,
make
sure
I'm
not
making
more
work
for
people,
but
I
don't
want
people
to
think
like.
Why
did
we
forget
x
is
all
other
other
major
files
that
we
want
to
think
about
at
the
beginning,
for
what
should
go
in
the
template
repo
here,
let
me
put
in
the
previous
laser
to
see.
B
E
I
feel
like
that
helps
new
contributors
because,
like
instead
of
like
it
there's
so
much
assumptions,
we
have
them
in
the
shop
community
like
here
is
our
expectations
of
code,
which
we
and
like
follow
these
practices.
We
even
provided
like
cook
style
so
like
if
you
run
cook
style
against
your
repository.
It
would
give
you
the
recommendations
about
the
specific
things.
B
It
isn't
it
isn't
so.
The
pr
checklist.
E
B
E
E
B
E
Because
different
coding
guidelines
or
something
okay,
thanks.
A
E
B
E
B
Yeah,
I
see
your
comment
here.
What
the
release
cycle
looks
like.
E
So
what
did
I
mean
by
this?
So
so
you
have.
This
is
out
of
scope,
how
to
cut
a
release
so,
like
that's
a
maintainer
guide,
but
the?
What
is
the
release
cycle
shows
what
so.
E
So,
if
I
write
a
pull
request
that
like,
if
I
write
some
code,
I
make
a
pull
request:
does
it
go
in
immediately
and
it's
released
or
is
it
batched
up
and
then
a
new
release
is
cut
and
so
like
what
the
release
cycle
is,
is
just
here's
how
we
release
stuff?
Here's
like
the
phases
of
the
release-
and
I
don't
know
if
that's.
B
I
think
there's
there's
there's
two
things
one
is
in
general.
How
do
we
version?
What's
our
release
strategy,
which
I
think
a
lot
of
projects
have
to
answer
when
they
submit
to
cncf
actually
like,
or
at
least
it
used
to
be
part
of
the
the
template?
You
have
to
explain
your
release
strategy
or
your
versioning
strategy,
but
for
for
that
very
specific
scenario
you
gave
basically
like
will
this
immediately
get
released
or
will
get
batched
up?
E
E
C
B
I
don't
wanna,
I
don't
wanna
split
people's
time
off.
Just
writing
stuff.
E
B
Because,
like
depending
on
what
what
type
of
change
it
is,
it
may
get
hot
fixed,
it
may
end
up
batch.
Let
me
go
really
quickly.
I
mean
I
know
like
on
the
projects
I'm
on,
like
not
everything's,
like
kubernetes,
where
it
just
goes
pretty
regularly.
E
B
It's
okay!
I'm
sorry!
I
just
want
to
avoid
spending
all
of
our
time
wordsmithing,
because
I
was
trying
to
make
this
little
a
little
higher
level,
so
you
can
make
sure
to
get.
I'm
sorry,
don't
know,
let's
minus
your
comments.
That's
okay!
Are
there
any
other
templates
that
we
were
hoping
to
create
or
maybe
advisories
to
go
along
with
them
to
help
people
understand?
I
think
we
were
calling
out
a
couple
of
them
in
the
comments
that
we
wanted
to
make
along
with
them
just
going
through
our
comments.
E
Yeah,
I
feel
in
the
reviewing
guidelines,
which
is
out
of
scope.
There
is
also
a
dealing
with
dealing
with
the
the
borderlines
of
toxic
contributions.
B
B
To
do
this,
oh
okay,
cool!
Sorry!
I
read
this
before
the
meeting
and
I
remember
we
it's
somewhere
here
we
want
to
talk,
it
was
in
the
it
was
our
last
meeting.
We
wanted
to
define
the
community
values
and
then
it's
part
of
this,
and
this
was
just
as
an
advisory
like
supplemental
paper
or
something
not
as
a
template.
B
We
want
to
talk
about
community
values
like
beyond
a
code
of
conduct,
because
I
think
cncf
kind
of
has
a
standard
code
of
conduct,
the
contributor
covenant,
and
so
that
I
think
it
really
flows
in
well
with
what
you're
saying,
which
is
how
to
how
to
like
foster
those
values
and
deal
with
people
who
really.
B
You
know
it's
really
hard
by
the
way
to
write
about
some
of
this
stuff
and
not
end
up
immediately,
drawing
like
moths
of
the
flame
people
who
want
to
engage
in
very
bad
faith
with
whatever
you
just
wrote
by
the
way.
So
when
we
write
something
like
this
expect
engagement
from
people
negative
engagement,
just
like
announcement.
E
B
People's
anonymous
experiences
on
how
how
to
deal
with
these
things,
you
know
it's
tricky.
It's
really
tricky
to
speaking
from
having
been
on
a
couple
of
kodakana
committees.
B
Are
there
any
other
things
that
maybe
we'd
like
to
start
thinking
about?
I
mean
we
have
a
whole
bunch
here.
We
can
just
start
working
on,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
took
time
to
think
about
it
before
then.
We
just
went
off
and
write
and
we
don't
stop
to
then
think
about
what
else
we
wanted
to
write
about.
E
B
B
Yeah,
that's
the
content
that
was
talking
about
that's
currently
that
I
wrote
for
kubernetes
that
I'd
like
to
contribute
up
higher
to
the
cncf
and
then,
if
we
could
expand
on
it
and
get
more
people's
perspectives
and
likes
and
make
it
into
more
of
a
series
or
collection
of
people's
thoughts.
B
Are
people
interested
in
taking
on
a
couple
of
these
like
I'll
put
my
name
next
to
getting
the
contributor
the
creative
reading
guide
past
the
finish
line?
Is
anyone
else
able
to
say
they
can
spend?
You
know
an
hour
to
to
try
to
start
or
get
any
of
these
going.
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
I
think
the
contribution
ladder
would
be
the
the
one
next
that
we're
trying
to
get
get
rolling.
I
will
pair
with
karen
okay
sounds
good.
Okay,
that'd
be
great.
E
A
When
I
tried
to
do
it,
my
invite
expired,
and
I
think
I
came
to
chris
and
I
don't
know,
let
me
let
me
dig
up
some
emails
and
follow
up
on
that.
Yeah.
Okay,.
B
Just
so,
I
actually
saw
people
submitting
to
sandbox
to
cncf
right
now
to
this
day
getting
rejected
because
they
did
not
have
code
of
conduct.
So
this
is
an
easy
one
that
we
can
help
people
with.
B
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
don't
want
to
over
subscribe
people,
so
I
think
we'll
just
stop
right
there
and
just
be
like
that
is
enough.
C
E
E
Is
that
all
google
docs?
So
we
can
do
what
we
want.
B
We
wanted
to
avoid
putting
things
into
the
templates
repository
before
we're
finished
with
them,
so
by
the
time
they're
committed,
it
should
be
safe
for
people
to
clone
and
use
okay,
so
I
was
leaning
towards
using
the
google
doc
and
then
making
sure
that
people
had
edit
rights.
I
was
that's
why
I
was
like
messaging
people
and
asking
them
for
their
email
addresses,
so
they
can
edit
and
be
able
to
put
changes
in
themselves.
B
I
apologize
if
I
missed
anyone,
so
please
let
me
know
if
I,
if
I
made
a
mistake
on
that,
but
we
also
have
the
option
of
submitting
prs
to
sig
contributor
strategy
and
maybe
just
putting
it
in
a
folder
for
our
working
group.
We
have
a
working
group
folder.
B
And
I
think
it
would
be
fine
if
we
put
our
drafts
in
there
while
we're
working
on
it.
We
probably
like
just
make
a
drafts
folder
if
that's
easier
for
people
to
manage.
I
think
it's
kind
of
more
difficult,
though,
to
leave
comments
and
kind
of
really
turn
on
things
as
we
have,
but
I
let
people
decide
how
they
they
find
it
easier
to
collaborate.
Asynchronously.
E
B
E
B
Let's
just
can
we
just
make
a
revo
that
just
like
puts
up
in
there
and
give
people
permissions
on
it,
whoever's
collaborating
on
it
and
then,
when
it's
ready,
we'll
put
it
in
the
template,
repo
cool.
Does
that.
B
I
see
why
that's
special
they're
a
little
different.
F
Better,
no,
I
mean
a
lot
of
this
stuff
on
the
template,
repo
we're
also
going
to
want
to
put
stuff
on
yeah.
So
obviously
the
sooner
you
can
push
drafts
the
better,
because
then
we
can
start
adding
things
to
them.
F
The
I
did
actually
have
a
question
for
you
about
the
template,
repo
sure
yeah.
So
this
came
up
in
our
meeting
this
morning,
and
so
the
problem
is
that
some
things
we
want
to
template
don't
fit
easily
within
a
kind
of
fill-in-the-blank
format
like.
F
Things
like
governance
structures,
where
it's
like.
If
you're
going
to
have
self-selecting
maintainers,
then
you
want
something
kind
of
like
this.
If
you're
going
to
have
elections,
then
here's
this
long
document,
you
know
with
examples
of
how
to
run
elections
where
I'm
not
sure
that
putting
it
all
in
one
file
where
you
say
select
the
portion
that
applies
to
you
is
really
going
to
work.
F
C
B
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
when
you
have
a
couple
of
files
called
like
governance,
food
governance,
dashboard
governance,
dash
whatever
and
then
a
main
governance.
That's
like
you
need
to
pick
one
and
delete
the
others
or
something
along
those
lines
where
we
give
them
instructions,
yeah
go
with.
Whatever
makes
sense,
we
haven't
hit
something
that
was
that
long
form.
Yet.
F
Yeah,
well
it
would.
It
came
up
because
we
were
looking
at
advice
around
how
to
structure
your
leadership
selection
yeah.
It
was
like
okay,
an
actual
template,
for
this
is
not
going
to
be
small
yeah,
the
so
the
you
know
may
come
up
for
other
things,
not
sure
what,
though,.
B
You
know
that
that
makes
sense
we
haven't
had
to
have
like
the
largest
you
know
either
or
for
us
has
been
tco
versus
cla.
B
F
So
the
okay
yeah,
so
I
mean
that's
it.
You
know
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
sort
of
the
same
material,
because
I
mean
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
keep
in
mind
here
is
for
the
smaller
projects,
they're
kind
of
going
to
want
to
have.
Well,
I
mean
they're
required
by
the
cncf
rules
to
split
things
among
like
two
or
three
documents,
but
they're
going
to
want
to
have
everything
within
those
two
or
three
documents,
because
their
stuff
is
just
not
that
complicated
yeah.
F
The
I
mean
honestly,
I
just
we
just
did
the
one
for
operator
framework
and
we
we
did
all
our
drafts
as
one
document,
because
it
was
only
three
and
a
half
pages
long
and
then
we
broke
it
up
into
the
required
cncf
files.
So.
D
B
F
Look
at
I'm
not
sure
it's
been
I.
It
should
be,
at
least
as
a
pr
I'll
have
to
find
it,
though,
because
it
started
out
as
a
google
doc.
The
oh.
C
F
And
so
because
operators
framework
just
got
accepted
into
sandbox
yeah.
E
B
Mostly
just
like
an
example
of
what
someone
has
just
gone
through
like
going
through
the
process
themselves,
I
was
just
curious
because
I
want
to
match
it
up
with
the
template
that
we
started
doing
and
be
like.
Are
we
matching
reality.
B
Cool
you
know
this
is
really
all
we
have
on
the
agenda
for
today.
I
think
everyone
who
wanted
some
content
assigned
to
them
has
something
to
sign.
B
So
let
me
know
if
there's
anything
I
can
help
with.
Otherwise
that's
it.