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C
B
Katie
you're,
not
at
the
the
live
event
in
la.
A
No,
I
am
I'm
based
in
london,
so
I
need
to
well
traveling
to
us.
Apparently
it's
possible,
but
okay,
so
yeah.
B
A
Like
there's
no
yeah,
I
think
they
have.
Everyone
has
one
minute
to
return
by
themselves
as
well.
Oh
there
they
go
hello.
Everyone
welcome
back
to
the
main
room.
D
E
Just
yeah,
which
is
absolutely.
A
Fine,
I
think
we're
going
to
wait
for
everyone
to
join
as
well
and
then
we're
gonna
go,
live
on
the
platform
on
twitch
and
then
we're
gonna
start
the
panel,
so
is.
A
Yeah,
it's
going
to
be
part
of
the
twitch,
but
well
it's
not
going
to
be
part
of
the
cloud
native
tv
because
that's
a
separate
program,
but
it's
still
going
to
be
part
of
it
and
it's
going
to
be
streamed
on
the
cncf
platforms.
Katie
for.
F
A
So,
oh
actually,
I'm
going
to
introduce
some
of
the
best
practices
as
well
yeah.
Ideally,
okay.
I
think
we
have
pretty
much
everyone
back.
Hopefully,
oh
we
have
someone
else
in
the
waiting
room
as
well
cool,
so
the
way
we're
gonna
run.
The
panel
is
more
of
an
interactive
session,
so
this
is
pretty
much
your
end
user
prime
time
with
the
cncf
and
toc
leadership
so
feel
free
to
keep
your
camera
on.
A
If
you
have
a
question,
definitely
put
your
camera
on,
you
can
raise
your
hand
and
ask
it
directly
or
you
can
put
the
question
in
the
chat
as
well.
If
you
don't
feel
comfortable
sharing
your
audio
and
video.
So
again
we
were
trying
to
make
this
as
interactive
as
possible
and
pretty
much
make
it
work
for
you
as
well.
A
A
Awesome,
hello,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
end
user
partner
summit,
a
panel
that
will
center
on
the
strategy
vision
and
how
to
best,
navigate
and
contribute
the
cloud
native
as
an
end
user.
We
have
an
incredible
lineup
of
panelists
today
from
the
cncf
and
toc
leadership,
including
priyanka
sharma,
chris
anishik
liz
rice
and
aaron
boyd,
I'm
katy
kamanji,
and
I
will
host
this
panel.
A
Currently
I
am
the
ecosystem
advocate
at
cncf
and
I
am
leading
the
end
user
community,
which
is
a
vendor
neutral
group
of
more
than
160
organizations
that
use
cloud
native
to
build
and
distribute
our
products.
Just
as
a
reminder.
We
are
moderating
this
panel
in
zoom
with
questions
from
our
end
users
attendees.
However,
we
will
monitor
the
questions
from
any
live
streaming
platform
such
as
twitch
youtube,
live
periscope
and
linkedin,
and
throughout
the
stream,
we'll
make
sure
to
monitor
these
questions
and
pass
them
to
to
the
panel.
A
Now
before
we
dive
into
some
of
the
questions,
can
I
ask
the
panel
to
introduce
themselves,
starting
with
priyanka.
G
Sure
thing,
thank
you
so
much
for
organizing
this
katie
hi,
everyone,
I'm
priyanka
sharma
and
I'm
the
general
manager
of
the
cloud
native
computing
foundation
or
cncf
right
now.
I
am
I'm
normally
based
in
san
francisco,
but
right
now,
I'm
in
los
angeles
for
our
first
ever
hybrid
kubecon
cloud
nativecon
and
I'm
so
glad
to
see
the
virtual
element
popping
just
like
before.
G
While
we
also
have
the
in
person
joining
in
so
very
nice
to
meet
all
of
you
and
if
you
ever
have
any
questions
or
anything
I'm
most
accessible
through
twitter,
I
spend
way
too
much
time
there.
So
you
can
find
me
there
and
I'll
put
my
handle
in
the
chat
here.
If
that
will
be
helpful
for
people.
F
Sure
everyone,
chris
santasic,
you
have
the
fun
job
of
being
cto
of
the
cloud
native
computing
foundation,
kind
of
serving
our
project
community
and
all
the
craziness
that
kind
of
happens
across
our
over
100
plus
projects
that
we
have
you
know
now
I'll
be
in
and
out
through
kubecon,
both
physically
and
virtually
this
week,
so
feel
free
to
you
know
find
me
whether
it's
through
twitter
or
you
know
a
slack
dm,
but
looking
forward
to
kind
of
catching
up
with
a
lot
of
folks.
F
It's
just
been
you
know
way
too
long,
since
we've
had
an
opportunity,
I
think,
to
connect
with
folks
face-to-face,
and
you
know
trying
to
kind
of
survive
in
this
hybrid
world.
F
Time
and
virtual
time
across
these
different
different
mediums
so
good
good
to
meet
everyone.
A
Thank
you
for
being
here
both
for
you
and
now
we're
gonna
go
to
the
toc
side,
so
liz.
Would
you
like
to
introduce
yourself
please
as
well.
D
Sure,
thanks
katie,
yes,
my
name
is
liz
rice.
I
am
chief
open
source
officer
at
iso
valence,
which
is
the
originating
company
of
the
psyllium
project
and
I'm
the
chair
of
the
technical
oversight
committee
for
the
cncf
I'm
calling
in
from
london.
So
it
is
great
that
we
can
do
this.
You
know
hybrid
and
being
able
to
be
there,
even
though
I'm
not
physically
there,
but
if
you
are
physically
there,
I'm
much
more
likely
to
be
awake
early.
You
know,
don't
expect
a
quick
response
in
the
evening
l.a
time,
because
I
will
definitely
be
asleep.
A
I'm
definitely
envious
of
everyone
attending
in
person
at
keep
going
at
the
moment.
So
yeah,
let's
have
erin.
Could
you
please
introduce
yourself
as.
H
My
name
is
erin
boyd
and
I
am
a
toc
member.
I
have
been
part
of
the
kubernetes
and
cncf
community
for
years.
I've
had
the
great
pleasure
of
working
with
liz
and
chris
for
a
very
long
time
and
as
we
as
this
ecosystem
continues
to
evolve.
I
previously
worked
at
red
hat,
so
I
feel,
like
the
end
user
community
is
amazing
and
that
I've
gotten
both
the
vendor
perspective
and
also
the
end
user
perspective
of
you
know
not
only
creating
the
technologies
but
how
we
use
them
and
can
make
them
better
for
everyone.
H
A
I've
actually
heard
that
the
weber
is
brilliant
there
at
the
moment.
So
thank
you,
everyone
for
being
here
today.
I'm
really
excited
to
have
again
the
toc
and
the
cncf
leadership
here
together
in
the
same
room,
so
the
discussion
mostly
is
going
to
be
focused
on
how
end
users
can
navigate
the
landscape
and
how
they
can
best
contribute
to
the
wider
ecosystem
as
well
as
such.
My
first
question
is
going
to
be
around
and
use
organizations
that
are
currently
present
in
a
wide
range
of
industries
and
sectors
from
innovative
startups
to
well-renowned
enterprises.
A
I'd
like
to
hear,
maybe
your
thoughts
in.
Why
do
you
think
the
end
users
currently
are
at
the
forefront
of
the
cloud
native
ecosystem.
G
I
can
chime
in
with
a
couple
of
thoughts,
so
I
think
we
aim
you
know
team
cloud
native.
We
built
we
started
off,
as
a
group
of
you
know
almost
like
dreamers
and
like
visionaries
who,
if
work
together,
to
create
this
paradigm
of
computing
that
is
now
relevant
to
every
company
in
the
world,
and
that's
happened
for
so
many
reasons
and
kovit
19
was
such
a
challenging
time,
for
us
all
has
skyrocketed
that
right.
G
I
was
looking
at
research
and
it
said
that
almo
this
is
from
mckinsey
and
company
and
they
were
saying
that
almost
every
technology
every
executive,
that
they
are
in.
Oh
that
wasn't
me,
but
every
that
most
executives,
that
they
talk
to
don't
see
tech
as
a
cost
center
anymore.
G
Now
it's
the
way
to
get
edge,
to
get
innovation
and
to
compete
with
your
competitors,
and
so
I
think
the
awareness
has
first,
it
started
with
the
developers
in
these
companies
and
now
at
the
top
levels
too
they're
all
on
the
same
page,
and
so
basically
the
nature
of
our
community
is
evolving
to
be
much
more
about
the
end
users.
Much
more
end
users
participating.
G
So
it's
it's
the
trends
of
the
time
every
company
is
becoming
a
tech
company,
kovid
accelerated
that
the
developers
were
already
interested
by
what
we
were
doing,
and
so
I
feel
like
the
stargazer
dreamer
types
that
we
were
in
the
beginning
has
now
been
joined
by
the
pragmatists
and
the
operators,
and
those
are
the
people
who
run
the
world.
G
G
D
Please
I'm
gonna
jump
in
there,
but
yeah.
I
completely
agree
with
what
priyanka
was
saying
there
and
when
you
know
cloud
native
first
started
kind
of
almost
by
definition,
it
came
from
the
world
of
vendors
and
increasingly,
as
adoption
grows,
it's
important
to
hear
what
end
users
actually
need
you
know
and
what
problems
they
need.
Solving.
You
know.
D
Vendors,
successful
vendors
are
obviously
pretty
good
at
figuring
out
what
problems
you
know,
what
solutions
to
to
create,
but
they
do
that
by
talking
to
end
users,
I
feel
like
it's
very
important
that
the
cloud
native
community
continues
to
be
a
successful
ecosystem.
It
has
to
provide
meaningful,
helpful
solutions
to
end
users.
It
has
to
enable
people
to
contribute
together
and
it
has
to
sort
of
foster
an
environment
where
business
can
take
place.
D
You
know
that
we
it's
all
about
open
source,
but
surrounding
that
is
a
a
healthy
ecosystem
that
basically
enables
lots
of
people
to
do
their
jobs,
and
that
applies
whether
they're,
vendors
or
end
users,
so
a
healthy
mix
where
ultimately,
the
end
users
are
the
people
that
we're
solving
problems
for
that's.
I
think
why
they're
so
important.
E
A
F
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
like
two
macro
trends
going
on
where
you
know
one.
I
think
a
lot
of
end
user
organizations.
Adopting
organizations
have
wised
up
a
little
bit
and
are
holding
their
vendors
in
in
check
a
little
bit
by.
You
know
requiring
a
lot
of
this
stuff
to
be
developed
in
the
open,
so
they
have
a
little
bit
more
clear
vision
on
kind
of
the
road
map
and
you
know
just
being
able
to
participate.
You
know
this
kind
of
old-fashioned.
You
know
private
customer
advisory
board.
F
Stuff,
just
doesn't
like
you
know,
really
work
anymore
and
users
are
demanding
a
lot
of
the
innovation
to
happen.
You
know
in
the
open,
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
to
kind
of
you
know,
keep
things
a
little
bit
fair.
You
know
overall
and
a
little
bit
more
beneficial
for
them
and
kind
of
the
other
big
trend
is
a
lot
of
companies
have
decided
that
you
know
they
have
to
bring
software
in-house
or
are
more
comfortable
in
sharing
things.
F
So
if
you
look
at
kind
of
the
latest,
you
know
cncf
projects.
You
know
you
have
things
like
you
know.
Backstage
from
spotify,
you
know,
you
know,
you
know,
envoy
from
lyft.
A
lot
of
these
technologies
are
being
born
from
end
user
companies,
solving
problems
and
they're,
more
comfortable
sharing
these
things,
and
I
think,
having
a
forum
in
cncf
to
kind
of
allow
this.
You
know
innovation
and
collaboration.
Amongst
you
know,
end
users
and
vendors
and
kind
of
keeping
things
fair
is,
is
super
healthy
and
just
good.
A
Awesome
now
I
would
like
to
maybe
transition
how
end
users
operate
within
the
cloud
native
ecosystem
to
maybe
understand
better
some
of
the
positions
they
can
hold
in
the
community
and
I'm
gonna
focus
more
a
bit
on
the
the
toc
side.
So
this
is
more
a
question
for
liz
and
aaron,
but
everyone
else
please
feel
free
to
share
your
thoughts
as
well.
A
Now,
after
this
year's
last
year's
election,
four
out
of
11
uses
are
coming
from
indies
organizations
such
as
apple
spotify
and
cern,
and
I
would
like,
maybe
for
aaron,
to
share
a
bit
more
about
the
the
role
and
the
responsibility
she's
holding
as
an
end-user
qc,
and
maybe
I
would
like
lisa
to
share
how
the
tocs
can
make
impactful
decisions
for
shaping
the
cloud-native
landscape.
H
Sure-
and
maybe
we
could
touch
on
the
question-
that's
here
in
the
chat
about
the
the
widespread
feeling
that
the
community
is
dominated
by
vendors.
I
think
the
toc
really
has
a
mission
to
be
able
to
encourage
the
diversity
and
bring
in
projects
even
kind
of
at
their
infancy
in
the
instantiation
of
an
idea.
H
That's
well-formed
and
you
know
that's
where
sandbox
comes
in,
and
so
the
toc
really
has
a
responsibility
to
look
across
the
ecosystem,
regardless
of
the
size
of
the
company,
that's
producing
it,
but
the
health
of
the
community
behind
it.
So
I
think
that
that
helps
create
a
the
ability
for
even
small
companies
to
be
able
to
participate,
have
their
ideas
seen
and
heard
and
to
grow
it
throughout
the
community
and
understand
that
and
in
terms
of
end
users,
I
really
do
think
that
they
keep
us
grounded
in
what
is
actually
needed.
H
I
think
many
times
as
engineers
we
are
dreamers
and
we
should
be
and
we'd
love
to
innovate,
but
you
know
it
oftentimes.
We
need
to
understand
that
you
know
some
of
these
things
are
very
hard
to
operate
and
use,
and-
and
we
can
make
them
better
in
the
end,
users
help
us-
and
you
know,
regardless
of
the
role
that
people
play
within
a
company.
H
I
think,
having
you
know
these
different
levels
within
the
toc
to
propose
projects
and
understand
their
merit
by
the
health
and
the
acceptance
in
the
community,
as
well
as
the
end
user
perspective,
allows
us
to
have
maybe
a
more
level
playing
ground
given
to
what
henrik's
question
is
in
chat.
D
Confusing
pop-up
about
muting
myself
or
I'm
using
myself,
okay,
so
I
think
one
important
well
a
couple
of
important
points.
One
is
we,
as
a
community
wanted
to
get
more
end
user
involvement,
and
you
know
we
opened
up
additional
seats
on
the
end
on
the
toc
to
end
users
to
get
that
additional
input
to
the
toc.
D
But
the
second
important
point
is
that
that
doesn't
change
the
role
of
the
toc.
The
toc
is
here
to
provide
the
the
kind
of
the
technical
oversight
to
set
the
technical
direction
and,
in
practice,
a
lot
of
that
comes
from
looking
at
projects
and
making
decisions
about
which
projects,
whether
they
fit
into
the
into
the
landscape.
What
level
of
maturity
they're
at
and
that
role
that
we're
performing
there
doesn't
change
whether
we
have,
however
many
end
users,
we
have
it's,
it's
still
the
same
function
in
terms
of
getting
involved.
D
D
Cornelia
from
the
toc
is
going
to
be
speaking
about
this
in
her
keynote,
but
the
technical
advisory
groups
are
how
we
scale
our
efforts
in
the
toc,
how
we
lean
on
expertise
in
the
community,
and
it
would
be
amazing
to
have
more
end
user
participation
in
those
technical
advisory
groups.
So
I
thoroughly
encourage
you
and
your
teams
to
get
involved
in
the
different
areas
that
you're
interested
in
and
that's
how
we
can
make
the
best
use
of
and
leverage
your
your
expertise.
H
And
just
a
quick
clarification,
the
technical
advisory
group
used
to
be
called
cigs.
So
just
in
case
you
are
used
to
that.
That's
that's
been
fairly
recent,
just
to
make
sure
we're
all
using
the
same
understanding
of
what
those
existed.
It's.
A
Cool
now
I
definitely
would
like
to
encourage
everyone
to
participate
in
in
the
tags
or
actually
get
elected
as
a
toc
as
well.
That's
absolutely
an
amazing
role
to
have
in
the
community
and
they
actually
have
a
point
where
it
can
shape
the
landscape
and
actually
provide
your
perspective
as
an
end
user
as
well.
A
Now
I
would
like
to
direct
the
conversation
a
bit
more
into
the
future
and
what's
on
the
horizon,
so
lately
we
had
a
lot
of
push
to
or
only
said,
a
lot
of
push,
but
we
tried
to
increase
the
visibility
of
financial
institutions
that
adopt
cloud
native
and
try
to
create
case
studies
or
provide
those
stories
to
to
the
entire
community,
and
I
would
like
to
ask
chris
and
priyanka:
what
do
you
think
are
the
next
organizations
to
adopt
cloud
native?
A
G
I'll
time,
in
with
my
my
experience
here
is
that
I
think
and
mass
a
lot
of
different
types
of
organizations
are
starting
to
adopt
cloud
native
just
a
few.
A
month
or
so
ago,
I
was
in
europe
and
I
did
a
end
user
road
show
where
I
ended
up
meeting
all
kinds
of
companies,
and
I
met
audi
daimler
spotify,
deutsche
telekom,
which
is
a
telco,
so
not
exactly
end
user,
but
all
of
these
very
different
types
of
companies
were
really
far
along
their
cloud
native
journeys.
G
All
of
them
had
robust
big
teams
in
their
companies
that
were
the
cloud
native
teams
that
were
creating
the
developer
experience
for
by
the
way,
in
the
cases
of
places
like
audi
and
daimler,
like
tens
of
thousands
of
engineers,
if
not
more
right-
and
I
was
frankly
really
impressed
by
this
leapfrogging
that
has
happened
it.
It
really
felt
different
from
like
two
years
ago.
G
So,
just
based
on
that
in
person
experience,
I
would
say,
automotive
seems
to
be
all
in
and
working
quite
hard
and
that
type
of
world
right,
whether
it's
not
just
automotives,
it's
even
like
the
plane
and
train
people
they're.
Also
getting
involved-
and
I
think
very
seriously,
working
on
cloud
native,
so
that's
one
vertical,
I
would
say,
and
then
the
other,
of
course
is
the
telco
vertical,
where
I
think
telcos
are
so
ripe
for
cloud
native
now
and
they
know
it.
G
That's
the
best
part
like
I
don't
have
to
tell
them
and
we
are
doing
efforts
with
defining
what
a
cloud
native
network
function
is,
because
that's
really
what
one
big
thing
they
need
to
truly
go
cloud
native.
So
those
are
two
verticals
that
are,
I
say,
immediate
expansion
and
and
then
I'm
sure
there
are
industries
that
I
haven't
met
yet,
and
it's
like
cloud
natives
booming.
F
Yeah
I
mean
to
echo
kind
of
what
priyanka
said.
I
think
it's
a
lot
of
these
industries
who
may
have
been
a
little
bit.
I
don't
want
to
say
late
to
their
digital
transformation
game,
but
maybe
have
realized
that
software
has
to
be
a
core
competency
of
their
business.
There's
a
I
think,
a
a
press
release
from
porsche
recently
where
they
basically
announced
that
you
know
you
know
software
has
to
be
our
core
competency
and
open
source
part
of
that
story.
Otherwise
you
know
we're
potentially
not
going
to
be
able
to.
You
know.
F
You
know,
innovate
and
you're
kind
of
seeing
this
trend
happen
in
lots
of
different
organ.
You
know
organizations
out
there,
but
you
know
I
had
a
funny
conversation
with
a
a
large.
Let's
call
it
even
how
like
aerospace
company
right
builds,
let's
call
it
large
planes
and
and
other
things
and
they're
like
yeah
we're
gonna
be
putting
like
you
know,
kubernetes
on
on.
You
know,
on
airplanes,
I'm
like
great,
and
you
know,
they're
kind
of
staffing
that
staffing
that
up
and
hiring
you
know
in-house.
F
A
Personally,
I'm
very
excited
to
see
how
kubernetes
is
going
to
perform
on
airplanes
like
I
am
looking
forward
to
that
yeah.
I
just
hope.
There's
going
to
be.
I
G
D
F
Linux
went
to
mars
on
on
kind
of
the
little
helicopter
they
had.
So
why
not?
Why
not?
Kubernetes,
yes,.
B
A
A
Now
before
we
move
to
the
next
question,
I
would
like
to
again
remind
all
of
our
attitudes
to
put
your
questions
in
the
chat
or
raise
your
hand
and
you'll
be
able
to
ask
it
directly
to
our
panel
as
well.
So
don't
be
shy.
This
is
your
prime
time
ask
questions
now.
I
would
like
to,
of
course,
focus
on
this
week,
which
is
the
kubecon
and
cloud
native
conway,
and
I'd
like
to
ask
priyanka,
of
course
everyone
else
as
well.
A
A
G
So
the
theme
you
can
see
it
right
next
to
me,
it's
resilience
realized
and
the
question
of
why
right,
the
pr
team
is
always
asking
me:
how
do
you
come
up
with
this
stuff?
And
the
answer
is
really
it's
think
about
it.
Think
about
the
last
year
and
a
half
almost
two
years
right.
All
of
that
we've
gone
through.
I
think
we
were
the
whole
world
was
told
to
upset
hervey
and
cloud
native
became.
G
First
of
all,
we
had
to
survive
as
a
community
right,
a
lot
of
things
that
were
normal
for
us
that
were
usual
for
us
meeting
up
in
person
having
small
group
events
and
the
kubecons
all
that
went
away,
so
we
had
to
somehow
find
ways
to
take
care
of
ourselves.
G
Second,
because
of
that
it
was
really
speed
of
light
digitization
that
suddenly
started
happening
with
all
the
companies
around
the
world.
We
had
to
take
care
of
the
of
others,
too.
We
became
the
scaffolding
of
of
the
pandemic
era
really,
and
so
all
of
this
is
going
on.
All
of
us
are
juggling.
You
know
children
at
home,
not
going
to
school.
Losing
people
who
are.
We
are
so
close
to
have
experiencing
loss
at
a
mass
scale,
and
the
reality
is
that
we
all
fought
through
it
right
that
showed
our
resilience.
G
G
Then
it's
like
what's
resilience
realized
well,
if
you
think
about
this
event
happening
the
fact
that
it's
existing
at
all
is
a
realization
or
manifestation
of
our
resilience,
because
I
already
shared
with
you
all
the
challenges
that
we
as
a
community
have
gone
with,
and
you
probably
feel
it,
and
I
don't
even
need
to
explain
it
to
you
on
the
other
side,
just
in
terms
of
being
able
to
execute
on
this
event
right.
First
of
all,
it's
the
first
hybrid
one,
so
firsts
are
always
tough.
G
A
Amazing
now
I
cannot
deny
the
last
year
has
been
quite
challenging
for
all
of
us
and
of
course
we
have
more
prominent
presence
in
the
cloud
native
community,
which
I
think
is
great
a
great
result
of
this
as
well.
But
in
addition
to
the
community,
we
had
new
emerging
technologies
as
well,
and
this
is
some
another
question
I
would
like
to
ask
our
panel
today.
What
do
you
think
are
the
most
promising
cloud
native
technologies
that
will
emerge
in
the
next
half
a
year
or
maybe
a
year
any
any
thoughts.
D
D
I
think
also
high
performance
computing,
we're
going
to
see
some
pretty
specialist
technology
around
that
we
look
at
the
sandbox
projects.
We're
seeing
lots
of.
I
think
interesting,
run
times.
Things
like
rust,
based
runtimes
is
pretty
interesting
and
then-
and
that's
very
much
sort
of
in
the
depths
of
you
know
how
containers
are
actually
running
on
the
hosts
at
completely
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum.
D
D
I
think
that's
huge
and
then
finally,
I
can't
answer
this
question
without
mentioning
my
current
favorite
technology,
which
is
ebpf
which
we're
seeing
not
just
cilium,
which
I'm
involved
with,
but
several
other
projects
like
falco
and
pixi
using
ebpf
because
of
the
way
we're
able
to
hook
into
the
linux
kernel
and
then
use
that
to
instrument
all
the
apps
that
are
running
on
a
given
host
with
one
sort
of
set
of
instrumentation.
H
This
one
I'm
seeing
a
lot
more
maturity
towards
looking
at
the
security
lens
in
terms
of
you
know,
end
to
end
image
signing
as
well.
You
know,
there's,
obviously,
from
an
end
user
perspective,
the
the
radar
that
just
came
out
in
september,
you
know
was
all
around
that
and
it's
still
being
very
difficult,
maybe
to
use
those
and
develop
those
at
the
same
time.
H
So
what
are
we
doing
and
leaning
towards
you
know
being
secure
by
default
out
of
the
gate
and
making
sure
that
we
can
develop
on
a
platform
that
instills
trust?
So
I'm
excited
to
see
also
what
is
happening
within
the
security
arena.
D
F
Definitely
one
of
our
busier
co-located
events
yesterday
when
I
was
touring
through
all
the
different
ones,
so
there's
definitely
a
lot
of
interest
there.
You
know
outside
of
kind
of
the
excellent
you
know
points
you
know
made.
You
know.
I
think
you
know
that
there's
an
interest
in
stretching
you
know
kubernetes
to
support.
You
know
different
types
of
workload,
types
and
so
on.
I
think
you
know
you're
kind
of
seeing
the
same
thing
that
happened
with
linux
a
while
ago,
where
people
were
stuffing
it
in
you
know,
embedded
devices
cars.
F
You
know
like
every
type
of
format.
I
think
people
are
doing
the
same
thing
with
kubernetes
and
trying
to
figure
out
like
how
does
it
work
for
my
telco
edge
cases?
How
do
I
potentially
run?
You
know
webassembly
workloads
how
to
potentially
you
know
I
stuff
database,
like
everyone's
just
kind
of
stretching
this
core
technology
to
meet
their
specific.
You
know
end
user
needs
and
I
think
we're
going
to
see
kubernetes
kind
of
evolve
in
a
similar
way.
That
kind
of
linux
has
done
to
kind
of
support.
These
different
end
user
specific
needs.
G
Yeah-
and
I
think
the
reason
this
is
happening
is
because
the
folks
that
have
been
involved
with
cloud
native,
the
folks
that
have
been
running
the
kubernetes
clusters-
they
have
this
baseline
of
knowledge
that
they
are
being
able
to
verticalize
now,
and
so
it's
the
same
folks
with
an
expansion
of
like
you,
know
our
ranks,
but
it's
like
cloud
native
is
becoming
like
the
baseline
understanding
that
you
need
to
have,
and
then
you
kind
of
go
verticalize
and
figure
out
kubernetes
on
the
edge
figure
out,
the
wasm
situation
figure
out
what
to
do
with
security.
G
A
I
couldn't
agree,
I
think,
like
kubecon
is
a
great
way
for
us
to
determine
what
are
going
to
be
next
on
the
horizon
as
well,
when
it
comes
to
the
community
steps
and
the
technology
steps
as
well-
and
this
brings
me
to
the
next
question-
I
am
trying
to
very
quickly
get
a
sneak
peek
into
some
of
the
keynotes.
Just
briefly
as
much
as
as
we
can
share
now.
A
This
one
is
for
liz
and
erin,
because
in
the
past
we
had
the
tocs
having
their
predictions
around
the
emerging
technologies
and
methodologies
within
the
landscape
and
last
keep
going.
We
had
justin
cormack,
actually
giving
an
insight
of
over
80
sandbox
cncf
sandbox
projects,
which
was
obviously
a
very,
very
rich
keynote
in
information.
Now
I'm
trying
to
see
maybe
some
details,
or
maybe
some
insights
into
the
keynote
that
the
teosis
will
give
tomorrow
or
yeah
in
the
next
couple
of
days.
Let's
put
it
this
way.
D
Yeah,
so
cornelia
is
going
to
be
handling
that
for
us,
because
she's
able
to
be
there
in
person
which
is
awesome
and
she's,
focusing
on
the
role
of
those
technical
advisory
groups
that
we
discussed
earlier
and
really
how
they've
already
helped
scale
the
activity
to
do.
Some
really
good
work
in
some
specific
areas
like
different
white
papers,
they've
helped
us
with
assessing
projects.
There's
tons
of
work
they've
been
doing
so
really
in
that
keynote
she's
going
to
be
shining
a
spotlight
on
those
different
activities.
H
And
to
add
to
that
you
know
it
was
really
important
for
us,
as
a
toc
from
the
beginning,
to
now
to
be
able
to
actually
scale
and
understand
the
technologies
deeply
to
have
the
tags.
As
part
of
you
know,
our
success
story,
where
we
have
people
who
are
entrenched
in
the
details
and
understand
what
users
need,
what
restrictions
there
are,
what
kind
of
text
still
needs
to
be
developed
and
they're
able
to
talk
with
the
wider
community?
That's
concerned
with
that.
H
You
know:
there's
many
tags,
there's
networking
security,
sig
apps,
you
know
it.
It
defines
really
all
these
different
cloud
native
pillars
and
then
has
people
within
those
that
can
discuss
that
are
that
have
been
involved
or
getting
involved
in
the
community
from
vendors
to
end
users
to
researchers.
H
Even
so,
it's
a
very
diverse
and
rich
community
and
I
think,
being
able
to
highlight
that
and
and
how
much
they
help
propel
the
technologies
forward
and
really
educate
us
as
a
toc,
where
we
we
cannot,
possibly,
you
know,
go
through
80
efficiently
individually,
so
they
help
us
scale
out
and
and
provide
that
fairness
that
is
deserved
to
people
in
the
community.
Bringing
those
projects
forward.
A
Great
I'm
definitely
looking
forward
for
the
toc
keynote.
I
know
priyanka
she's,
obviously
gonna
open
the
the
stage
tomorrow.
So
maybe
you
cannot
share
so
much
but
rank
I
made.
Could
you
share
an
overview
of
your
keynote,
or
maybe
this
special
message
that
you'd
like
to
share
with
all
of
us?
G
No
I'll
tell
you
this
that
I
think
my
keynote
is
a
celebration
of
our
community
of
our
resilience
being
realized,
and
I
talk
about
how
that
happened
because
of
the
power
of
us,
the
emphasis
being
on
the
word
us
and
I'll
talk
about
who,
who
is
us?
Has
that
changed?
What
does
that
mean
that
that
that
has
changed?
How
do
we
uphold
the
awesomeness
that
we've
expected.
G
And
the
internet
connection,
so
many
companies
are
now
end
users
like
the
growing
and
increasing
in
size.
Oh
sorry
did
you
did
I
cut
out
for
a
second
just
for
a
sec,
just
for
saying
I'm
sorry,
but
it's
fine,
okay,
but
yeah.
So
basically
it
all
comes
back
to
more
and
more
companies
are
using
cloud
native,
so
much
growth
in
our
numbers.
How
do
we
retain
the
beauty
and
the
ethos
of
our
environment?
How
do
we
enable
all
kinds
of
people,
and
that
will
be
the
power
of
us,
so
you'll
hear
more.
A
Tomorrow,
awesome,
thank
you
very
much
for
sharing
all
of
all
of
this
with
us.
Of
course,
I
hope
everyone
here
is
looking
forward
for
the
keynotes
in
the
next
couple
of
days
and,
of
course,
the
sessions
now
so
far,
we've
touched
upon
what,
in
future
end
users
we
have
on
the
horizon.
What
kind
of
technologies
are
emerging
some
of
the
sessions
that
the
identity
should
attend
as
well
or
tune?
A
G
G
There
are
challenges,
because
many
organizations,
many
verticals,
still
have
a
a
different
view
in
terms
of
how
much
you
know
how
much
they
want
to
open
up
how
much
they
want
to
be
how
much
they're
able
to
really
like
communicate
in
a
larger
setting,
and
I
think
this
is
where
we
could
use
the
help
of
the
existing
end
user
ecosystem
and
community.
It's
like
spread.
The
word
tell
people
how
useful
this
is
for
you.
I
was
in
a
breakout
session
and
one
of
the
folks
david
over
there.
G
He
was
just
saying
how
how
essential
the
bi-weekly
developer
experience
meetings
are
for
him
and
how
much
value
he
gets
out
of
them.
I
want
to
really
like
beat
that
drum,
because
people
need
to
hear
about
it
and
not
just
developers
executives
need
to
hear
about
it
because
that's
when
they
start
seeing
oh
okay,
I
should
really
be
enabling
my
developers
to
go
here
my
devops
professionals
to
be
part
of
this
ecosystem.
G
So
I
think
for
us
I
am
100
confident
that
the
end
user
ecosystem
community,
the
and
the
vendor
community,
all
of
cloud
native
benefits
a
lot
from
being
together
from
increasing
their
ranks.
It's
a
matter
of
getting
the
word
out
there
so
that
each
and
every
developer
can
join.
H
And
I
think
one
of
the
unique
things
about
the
end
user
community,
which
really
embodies
open
source,
as
well
as
the
level
of
transparency
and
candidness
that
people
are
able
to
have
in
some
of
these
discussions,
they're
able
to
bring
their
struggles
and
you
know
use
the
community
is
a
way
to
foster
solutions
and
success,
and
or
at
least
you
know,
collectively
say
it's
not
working
for
us
either.
H
It's
not
just
you
so
I
mean
I
think
it's
really
a
great
opportunity
for
people
to
come
together
and
help
solve
a
diverse
set
of
problems
that
maybe
even
as
engineers
or
even
vendors,
we
didn't
understand
we're
there.
So
I
think
you
know,
having
that
be
a
sometimes
a
smaller
set
of
people
and
very
specific
discussions
helps
lead
even
to
innovation,
new
projects
or
solutions
that
go
back
to
the
vendors
to
help
solve
those
problems.
F
No,
I
mean,
I
think
I
think
everyone
has
said
great
things.
I
think
you
know.
One
simple
thing
is
you
know
you
know
make
time
in
your
organizations
for
your
folks,
potentially
kind
of
show
up.
You
know
to
these
meetings,
and
you
know
even
if
they
can't
necessarily
share
you,
know,
details
and
and
so
on,
but
you
know
being
there
making
time
for
it.
Recording
any.
You
know,
information
that
you
find
sending
it
back
and
eventually
kind
of
working
through.
F
You
know
your
organization
in
a
way
where
you
could
actually
make
time
for
open
source.
You
know
contribution,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
code,
it
could
be
simply
ideas
and
so
on
and
you'll
find
that
a
lot
of
time,
people
in
other
organizations
are,
you
know
completely
free
to
kind
of
share
information
with
you.
You
know
how
they
deploy.
You
know
a
blob
store
within
their
respective
company
and
so
on.
F
Everyone's
just
fairly
kind
of
you
know
helpful,
but
the
first
step
is
truly
just
like
showing
up
and
kind
of
making
making
the
time
and
and
kind
of
meeting
people.
We
have
a
lot
of
projects
and
meetings
in
in
the
cncf
arena
and
you
know
we
have
folks,
like
you,
know,
katie
and
other
cncf
staff
members
that
are
more
than
willing
to
kind
of
help.
You
and
kind
of
guide
you
through
your
cloud
native
journey.
G
If
I
may
just
chime
in
one
last
things
to
do
what
chris
has
been
saying,
you
know
about
just
also
that
the
end
users
are
now
standing
up
and
being
like
being
a
stronger
voice
in
the
vendor
ecosystem
right.
They
they
are
as
a
collective.
G
Your
power
is
more,
you
know,
the
power
of
us
increases
the
larger
the
number
we
are,
and
so
to
that
end,
I
think
the
the
executives,
the
leadership
in
the
companies,
need
to
become
aware
of
the
strategic
advantage,
in
addition
to
developer
happiness,
developer
productivity
that
comes
from
being
part
of
an
ecosystem
line
like
the
end
user
ecosystem,
because
it
just
makes
them
get
the
best
possible
results
for
the
technologies.
G
They
are
ultimately
going
to
consume,
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
need
to
get
the
word
out
there
and
ensure
that
they
all
hear
and
absorb.
A
Amazing,
personally,
I
am
very
excited
to
see
how
the
end
users
will
shape
the
future
of
the
cloud
native
and
contribute
back
to
the
community,
and
I
would
like
to
remind
everyone
if
you'd
like
to
learn
more
about
the
cncf
end
user
community
go
to
cncf.io
forward,
slash
end
user,
we'll
find
insights
into.
How
can
you
join
the
community
and
shape
your
industry
story
as
well,
and
I
would
like
to
take
the
last
couple
of
moments
and
thank
all
of
our
panelists
that
joined
us
today
on
and
all
of
our
attendees
as
well.