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"You're a ROCKSTAR" "AMAZING WORK" "WOW you must never sleep" "Can you take this on? Yes? Great!" "When will you finish it?" "Are you done yet?" Burnout is a slow-burn to slightly destructive tendencies.
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A
I,
flew
all
the
way
from
Toronto
Canada
to
talk
about
burnout
and
I
burned
myself
out
in
the
process
of
getting
here.
So
I
I
decided
not
to
do
a
talk
on
anything
technical
because
you've
seen
a
lot
of
tech
in
the
last
day
and
a
half
and
I
figured
it'd
be
worthwhile
to
talk
about
this
concept
of
burnout
and
and
how
I've
experienced
it
and
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
experienced
it
as
well.
A
A
My
name
is
Marina
wijay
I'm,
a
developer
Advocate
at
solo.io
solo
focuses
on
application,
networking
in
the
Realms
of
kubernetes
networking
so
think,
cni
service,
mesh
and
even
Gateway
Technologies
around,
like
istios
psyllium
and
even
enboy,
but
I'm,
not
really
here.
To
talk
about
talk
about
istio
I'm,
not
here
to
talk
about
service
mesh
or
any
sort
of
application.
Networking
I'm
here
to
talk
about
what
I
went
through
with
my
two
instances
of
burnout
and
a
lot
of
this.
A
A
lot
of
this
inspiration
came
from
someone
Julia
Simon
she's,
actually
a
a
cncf
coordinator
up
in
Canada,
so
she
she
managed
a
lot
of
the
events
up
there
in
Eastern
Canada
for
a
while,
and
she
was
one
of
the
first
people
to
actually
do
a
talk
at
kubecon
on
burnout,
and
so
after
catching
that
I'm,
like
you
know
what
I'm
inspired.
Let
me
go
talk
about
it
too
and
see
if
it
catches
and-
and
here
I
am
so.
A
Thank
you
Julia
I
know
this
is
not
being
live
streamed,
but
when
you
do
watch
this
recording
here's
your
thank
you
for
all
that
all
the
times
you
gave
me
guidance.
So
one
thing
I
also
want
to
clear
up.
Is
I
am
not
an
expert
on
Mental
Health
I
am
not
an
expert
on
imposter
syndrome
or
burnout,
or
anything
of
that
nature.
A
I'm,
not
a
therapist
I,
do
have
a
therapist
and
I
do
talk
to
them
about
these
kinds
of
things
from
time
to
time,
and
they
give
me
some
some
perspective
on
how
I
can
approach
it.
But
what
we
want
to
focus
on
today
is
burnout
is
how
we
arrive
at
burnout,
what
it
is,
why
we
experience
it
and
how
we
can
recover
from
it.
A
So
I
have
a
question
for
y'all
who's
looking
out
for
us
like
who
is
literally
out
there
looking
out
for
us
when
we
fall
sick
or
when
something
goes
wrong,
no
one
so
literally
us
like
we
have
to.
We
have
to
be
the
ones
that
take
care
of
ourselves.
We
have
to
be
the
custodians
of
our
own
lives,
because
quite
honestly,
I'm
not
going
to
come
over
to
you
and
ask
you:
are
you
burning
out
right
now,
you're
going
to
have
to
identify
that
on
your
own?
A
So
I've
had
to
do
this
myself
and
I
had
to
think
long
and
hard
about
what
that
truly
meant.
So,
let's,
let's
define
it
a
little
bit
because
there
are
a
lot
of
different
definitions
to
burn
out,
but
I'll
start
I'll
start
the
list,
and
maybe
some
of
this
will
sound
familiar
to
you.
So
it's
really
about
physical
exhaustion,
where
you're
starting
to
do
so
many
different
things
that
you
start
to
forget
about
your
physical
health,
and
that
starts
to
take
a
toll
on
your
overall
well-being.
A
There's
the
element
of
reaching
your
mental
capacity
where
you're
you're
working
so
much
on
so
many
different
things,
there's
so
many
different
contexts.
You
have
to
switch
through
to
understand
what
you're
working
on
and
then
you
have
to
go
back
and
re-familiarize
yourself
on
something,
and
then
you
start
to
realize
that
you
you've
hit
a
point.
You've
hit
a
limit
where
your
brain
can't
seem
to
process
this
anymore,
and
now
you
start
to
hit
some
sort
of
brain
fog
and
nothing
seems
to
make
sense.
A
Nothing
is
cohesive,
anymore,
and
so
that
also
tends
to
influence
things
like
how
you
eat
and
how
you
sleep,
and
so,
for
example,
when
I
was
experiencing
my
first
bout
of
burnout,
I
had
trouble
sleeping
at
night.
Sunday
night
would
roll
around
and
I
would
just
roll
around
in
bed
and
I?
Wouldn't
I,
wouldn't
sleep
until
about
2
3
am
in
the
morning
guess
what
Monday
morning
I
am
exhausted.
A
So
now
my
sleep
is
affected
now,
my
my
how
I
behave
at
work
is
affected
because
I'm,
tired
I'm
exhausted,
but
then
there's
also
the
element
of
now
I'm,
not
eating
anymore
I'm,
not
getting
the
nutrition
I
need
to
be
able
to
function
correctly,
so
these
are
all
after
effects
of
when
you
start
to
experience
the
burnout.
Sometimes
you
might
feel
this
lack
of
motivation
or
lack
of
Drive,
where
you
just
don't
want
to
do
anything
anymore,
like
you
sit
there
and
you're
like
how
do
I.
A
How
do
I
move
forward
like
how
do
I
move
on
with
this,
and
you
just
can't
seem
to
do
it
if
you're?
Like
me,
I
am
a
an
expert
when
it
comes
to
procrastination,
but
I
do
my
best
work
at
the
last
minute,
because
guess
what
I
put
this
deck
together
in
the
last
day
so
I
say
that,
because
quite
honestly,
when
you're
burning
out
you,
you
tend
to
do
your
best
work
at
the
last
minute,
because
everything
tends
to
come
together
right
then
and
there,
and
that
just
happens
for
me.
A
A
Will
I
ever
get
this
completed
on
time
and
maybe
I
might
maybe
I
don't,
but
it's
one
of
those
things
that
I
think
about
and
I'm,
like
maybe
I
shouldn't
be
worried
about
that
anymore,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
I
am
you
know
falling
apart
or
if
I'm
on
the
ground,
because
I
just
simply
cannot
function
and
none
of
the
none
of
the
other
things
that
I'm
working
on
matter.
None
of
that
really
matters.
A
There's
also
an
element
of
you
know,
feeling
defeated
feeling
alone
feeling
isolated,
because
there's
no
one
out
there
to
really
help
you,
and
that
really
comes
from
this
fact
that
you
just
decided
you
didn't
want
to
ask
for
help,
and
that
is
actually
me.
I
will
go
on
endlessly
doing
something
not
asking
for
any
sort
of
help.
Primarily
because
of
you
know
it's
a
pride
issue
like
I.
Don't
want
to
show
others
that
I
I
can't
do
it
on
my
own.
But
quite
honestly
you
should
be
doing
the
opposite.
A
I
should
be
doing
the
opposite.
I
should
be
asking
for
that
help
so
that
I
can
proceed
in
and
move
forward,
but
burnout
is
just
so
much
more.
There
are
so
many
other
definitions
behind
it
that
I
could
go
on
forever.
This
could
literally
be
a
two-hour
talk,
but
I
gotta
do
this
in
like
30
minutes.
So
let's
talk
about
my
first
instance
of
burnout.
A
There
were
a
few
feelings
that
I
was
going
through
at
the
time
back
in
2016.,
I
was
working
for
a
large
tech
company
and
I
was
like
literally
at
the
top
of
my
game.
Like
I.
Was
on
fire
I
loved
doing
what
I
was
doing?
Everyone
came
to
me
for
any
kind
of
networking
related
question,
because
I
was
a
networking
expert
at
the
time
and
what
was
really
interesting
was
Whenever.
There
was
anything
that
came
up.
My
name
would
come
up
because
they'd
want
to
come
to
me
so
that
was
nice.
A
Like
you
know,
it's
a
really
great
feeling
that
people
want
to
use
you
or
want
to
leverage
you
for
some
of
their
projects.
They'll
come
to
you
because
they
they
respect
you,
but
then
the
other
side
to
that
is
well.
You
have
all
these
people
coming
to
you.
How
do
you
service
them
all
so
in
2016,
I
was
asked
to
take
on
a
few
networking
projects
and
I
thought.
A
I
could
be
smart
about
it
and
try
and
combine
all
these
trips
into
like
a
week
and
a
half
I
actually
had
a
training
class
in
Austin
Texas
for
a
week
and
then
over
the
weekend,
I
had
a
network
cut
over
and
so
for
those
that
are
uninitiated
with
network
cutovers
you're,
either
changing
over
overall
protocols
you're
changing
over
Hardware.
You
could
be
changing
a
bunch
of
cables
who
knows,
or
it
could
be,
an
entire
rework
of
someone's
Network
architecture,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
moving
parts
and
things
can
go
wrong.
Well.
A
A
A
Anyways
irregardless
of
the
issue
itself,
I'm
out
of
there
24
hours
later
after
a
workaround
and
I've
got
like
two
hours
before
I
have
to
check
out
of
my
hotel
and
head
to
the
airport,
so
I
go
to
the
air,
hotel
and
I
plead
with
the
front
desk
I'm
like.
Let
me
sleep
here
for
like
a
few
hours,
so
that
I
can
at
least
like
rest
up.
They
gave
me
like
a
two
hour.
Sorry,
a
two
o'clock
checkout
and
I.
A
Was
there
like
at
12
30
so
an
hour
whatever
I'll
do
my
best
I
made
it
out
of
there
made
it
to
the
airport,
because
I
was
actually
going
to
Baltimore.
Baltimore
was
another
Network
cutover
that
I
was
doing
for
a
different
customer.
Now,
here's
here's
where
things
really
start
to
go
south
once
I
landed
into
Baltimore
I
just
didn't
feel
right.
Things
were
just
not
making
sense,
so
it
was
not.
Things
were
very
confusing
to
me.
A
I've
lost
control
because
I
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
over
the
next
few
days,
while
I'm
in
Baltimore
and
when
you're
in
that
vulnerable
situation.
You
honestly
don't
know
what
to
do.
Next.
Anyways
I
powered
through
I
had
to
power
through
because
I
had
to
get
home
at
some
point
in
time,
but
here's
the
thing
right,
you,
you
think
you
constantly
think
that
you
know
as
you're
going
through
these
exercises
as
you're.
Taking
on
all
this
work.
All
these
projects,
you
start
to
overwhelm
yourself.
You
don't
realize
that.
A
A
So
what
I
had
to
do
at
that
point
was
I
had
to
talk
to
my
leader
and
I
said
to
him
look:
I
I
can't
be
doing
this
anymore.
I
know.
I
know
this
was
very
self-inflicted,
because
I
obviously
wanted
to
ensure
that
they
always
looked
up
to
me
and
always
interested
me
with
a
lot
of
their
critical
projects,
but
then
I
had
to
turn
around
and
tell
them.
A
I
can't
do
this
anymore
and
I
felt
like
I
was
letting
him
down
right
and
while
you
feel
like
you're
letting
them
down,
you
also
have
to
think
about
yourself,
because
if
you
don't,
if
you
don't
look
out
for
yourself
like
to
my
earlier
question,
guess
what
your
Leader's
not
looking
out
for
you?
They
don't
care
about
your
physical
state
or
your
mental
health.
Some
do,
but
not
all
of
them
are
and
I
think
that's
critical
for
you
to
have
to
take
ownership
of
your
own
care.
So
that's
what
I
did
I
started.
A
Looking
for
my
next
job,
one
that
actually
took
me
out
of
having
to
do
late
night
2
am
cutovers
and
something
a
little
less
impactful,
but
was
still
rewarding
so
fast
forward
to
2021
I've
been
doing
pre-sales
engineering
for
a
while
and
I
got
to
this.
This
other
point
here
where
you
know
I'm
working
for
a
leader
and
they
had
these
high
expectations
of
being
able
to
do
so
many
things.
A
That
meant,
because,
quite
honestly,
having
a
conversation
without
any
sort
of
meaningful
output
is
not
very
efficient
in
my
opinion,
but
doing
that
endlessly
made
me
think
that
this
is
not
something
I
want
to
do
anymore.
I
do
not
want
to
be
going
through
the
same
same
BS,
this
cyclical,
BS
anymore,
and
so
I
basically
decided
that
I
was
going
to
take
a
month
off
of
work
because
I
was
completely
done.
A
What
can
you
do
for
me
and
for
the
company
that
I
work
for
at
the
time,
I
would
have
thought
that
they'd
be
really
understanding,
they'd,
be
really
forthcoming
and
saying
sure,
let's,
let's
get
it
done,
let's
make
sure
you
have
coverage
what
happened
right
after
I
asked.
That
was
not
what
I
expected
my
manager
made
me
feel
guilty
for
asking
for
that
time
off.
A
A
The.
The
story
behind
this
is
that
burnout
can
actually
come
up
in
so
many
different
ways
in
that
you
might
feel
like
you're
doing
so
much.
You
might
feel
like
you're,
not
even
adding
value
in
the
second
situation.
I
felt
like
I,
wasn't
adding
any
value
because
it
felt
like
any
time
my
manager
asked
for
something
that
I
wasn't
giving
them
or
giving
him
enough
and
that
wasn't
cool
I,
just
I.
A
Just
simply
couldn't
tolerate
that,
and
so
there's
this
idea
that
I've
been
trying
my
best
to
be
very
comfortable
with,
and
it's
trying
to
say
no
saying
no,
when
you
can
and
saying
no
is
not
so
much
about
you
just
not
wanting
to
do
something.
It's
about
guarding
your
time.
It's
about
setting
up
those
boundaries
in
place
so
that
you
have
time
for
yourself
to
recover
recuperate,
get
ready
for
the
next
thing,
whatever
that
might
be,
you
have
time
to
strategize
and
prepare,
because
guess
what,
if
you
keep
saying?
A
Yes
like
I
always
did
I
always
said
yes
to
everything.
You
reach
a
state
of
being
supremely
overwhelmed
that
okay,
you
will
arrive
at
burnout
because
I
did
so.
What
do
we
do?
We
set
boundaries
right?
We
set
boundaries
by
saying
no,
you
know
making
sure
that
we
have
planned
time
off
plan
breaks
and
we
communicate
those
to
the
people
that
we
work
with
or
that
we
report
to
so
that
they
can
understand
that
we
don't
have
to
justify
everything
that
we
do.
A
But
if
we
establish
these
up
front
with
the
expectation
that
we'll
deliver
when
we're
available,
then
it
creates
for
a
better
environment
overall
there's
an
element
of
limiting
Your
Capacity.
You
might
think
you
might
be
able
to
run
100
of
the
time
all
the
time,
but
that's
not
true
Monday,
you
might
be
at
44
percent
Tuesday.
You
might
be
at
98
percent.
A
So
what
about
leadership
and
management?
Like
how
do
we
work
around
those
constraints,
the
people
that
don't
quite
understand
what
we
do
and
what
we
go
through
well,
I
know
that
some
of
you
are
leaders
you're
watching
me
talk
about
this
stuff,
which
means
now
you're
going
to
go
back
and
think
about
it
with
the
people
that
work
with
you
that
report
to
you
and
you're
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
empathetic
about
some
of
their
own
needs,
and
that's
why
I'm
here
to
talk
about
it?
So
so
how
do
we
recover?
A
So
I
did
mention
that
we
have
to
set
some
boundaries.
That's
the
first
step,
but
we
also
have
to
identify
those
triggers
that'll
that
take
us
to
that
level
of
burnout.
We
have
to
write
those
those
triggers
down.
We
have
to
sit
down
and
assess
what
is
going
to
get
me
to
that
state
of
burnout
to
the
point
that
I
just
want
to
say:
f
everything
leave
me
alone.
A
Maybe
they
come
up
with
special
programs
that
say:
look
we're
going
to
give
everyone
like
I,
don't
know
four
hours
a
week
just
for
your
own
mental
health
go
do
whatever
you
need
to
do
to
address
that,
and
this
only
happens.
If
we
only
talk
about
it,
so
the
other
thing
too
is
once
you've
identified
those
triggers.
A
If
you
can,
even
if
it's
like
once
a
month
or
something
because
it
makes
a
world
of
a
difference
having
someone
else
analyze
what
you
do
analyze
your
behaviors,
your
thought,
processes
and
whatnot
allows
you
to
form
a
plan
to
not
get
to
not
feel
burnt
out.
So
there
is
there's
a
lot
that
that
I
could
go
on
about
when
it
comes
to
burnout,
but
what
I
really
want
to
say
is
that
we
all
have
to
look
out
for
ourselves.
A
A
You
know
I
I
identify
with
some
of
those
triggers
identify
with
some
of
those
feelings,
take
that
list
and
then
expand
upon
it
so
that
you
can
identify
further
triggers
and
further
symptoms
of
what
can
what
what
drives
you
to
burnout
with
that
being
said,
you
know,
just
to
summarize
burnout
is
a
combination
of
different
things.
It
could
be
a
combination
of
you
being
so
physically
tapped
by
doing
so
many
different
things.
It
could
be
a
combination
of
being
mentally
at
your
mental
capacity.
A
It
could
be
the
fact
that
you
are
just
isolated
and
you
don't
have
the
help
you
need,
but
there
are
ways
to
get
around
it.
There
are
ways
to
recover
from
it
start
writing
it
down
start
talking
about
it
start
normalizing.
This
conversation
with
burnout,
talk
to
your
leaders,
tell
them
how
you
feel,
because
if
you
don't,
if
you
don't
communicate,
if
we
don't
communicate
our
thoughts
around
what
we're
trying
to
do
around
how
we
go
about
recovering
from
burnout,
well
we're
never
going
to
have
a
system
in
place.