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Maintainers, Project Services and CNCF - Amye Scarvada Perrin & Jeffrey Sica, Cloud Native Computing Foundation
Curious about the support that CNCF provides for projects?
Come join a conversation with Amye Scavarda Perrin, Director of Developer Programs, and Jeffrey Sica, Principal Developer Experience Engineer as they discuss options for projects, maintainers, and help answer questions from project maintainers about where to go for more resources.
A
B
A
You
can
apply
either
as
a
sandbox
project,
which
is
one
level
you
can
apply
as
an
incubating
project
and
from
there
you
can
then
move
to
graduation.
So
sandbox
is
the
very
very
entry
level.
The
focus
for
the
toc
around
sandbox
projects
is
really.
This
looks
interesting.
We
are
interested
in
this
from
a
cloud
native
landscape.
A
We
think
this
has
potential
we're
not
necessarily
sure
where
it's
going
to
go.
A
sandbox
project
isn't
necessarily
like
a
hugely
vetted
project.
There's
not
a
lot
of
due
diligence
that
goes
into
it,
but
it's
it's
an
interesting
part
of
the
landscape.
We
like
what
we
see
we
like
what
we're
seeing
from
that
community.
We
want
to
be
able
to
bring
them
in
and
help
support
them
incubating
is
where
the
bar
comes
in
a
little
bit
higher
all
price.
A
A
Those
projects
also
end
up
with
a
great
deal
of
support,
incubating
and
graduating
projects,
because
this
is
a
talk
about
service
for
projects
they
get
space
at
kubecon
to
be
able
to
give
a
maintainer
talk.
We've
introduced
some
new
things
around
projects
being
able
to
have
project
meetings
which
are
intended
to
be
able
to
have
space
for
road
maps
space
for
just
conversations
in
person.
We
do
online
project
office
hours
to
be
able
to
have
the
larger
community
get
a
sense
of
what
like
what
their
their
end
user.
A
A
That's
a
really
good
point,
because
the
point
around
sandbox
marketing
is
sandbox
projects,
don't
necessarily
get
a
talk
at
kubecon
all
by
themselves.
They
are
more
than
welcome
to
be
able
to
go
through
our
normal
process
to
be
able
to
just
kind
of
join
the
general
program
committee,
but
we
reserve
a
maintainers
track
session
for
the
graduated
and
incubating
projects.
A
Yeah.
No,
that's
a
good
point.
Oh
yeah!
Also
swag.
We
do
have
a
cloud
native
store.
There
is
a
cloud
native
store,
the
incubating
graduated
projects
get
included
in
there.
We
also
have
stickers
for
all
of
our
other
projects,
so
now
that
I've
given
a
whole
overview
of
kind
of
like
the
the
levels.
Where
else
do
you
think
people
will
want
to
know
about
projects.
B
A
So
sandbox
projects
are
a
pretty
quick
application
form.
The
technical
oversight
committee
reviews
once
every
two
months,
roughly
with
schedule,
depending
and
really
they're
just
looking
for
something
that
is
interesting,
that
has
potential
and
and
sometimes
like,
a
growing
community
behind
it.
If
it's
brand
brand
new
I'd
really
suggest
that
you
wait
a
bit
to
be
able
to
actually
submit
it
into
sandbox,
simply
because
you
really
want
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
viable
enough
project
that
you're
interested
enough.
A
That
would
benefit
from
being
in
the
cloud
native
ecosystem,
just
as
part
of
the
projects
from
there.
If
you're,
a
much
more
robust
project
you
might
consider
coming
in
and
incubating
incubating
is
the
level
where
it's
gone
through
due
diligence.
It's
gone
through
the
technical
oversight
committee.
It's
gone
through
some
like
technical
group
review
and
people
are
generally
excited
and
engaged.
A
B
A
A
One
thing
that
toc
definitely
wants
to
look
at
is
a
governance
that
is
open,
that
people
can
participate
into
that
that
you
have
a
way
to
be
able
to
become
a
maintainer
of
a
project
and
from
there
you
have
a
way
to
be
able
to
promote
maintainers
into
different
ranks
and
that's
not
usually
as
important
but
being
able
to
say
hey.
We
choose
here
who's
here,
there's
a
very
clear
process
for
how
to
be
able
to
come
in
and
out.
So,
yes,
you
can
talk
to
us
as
cncf
staff.
A
A
A
All
we
do
is
the
foundation
is
hold
any
kind
of
trademark
or
word
mark
or
anything
around
that
in
space,
so
that
the
project
can
maintain
continuity
much
longer
term
so,
and
it
usually
takes
some
time
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
all
of
the
the
legal
paperwork
is
crossed
off.
But
this
is
one
of
the
services
and
one
of
the
reasons
you
would
want
to
be
able
to
put
your
project
in
the
cncf,
so
yeah
there's
some
there's.
Some
legal
things
involved
talk
to
me
about
what
services
we
provide
for
communities.
B
B
In
addition
to
that,
we,
through
our
tags,
we'll
actually
be
able
to
network
other
projects
or
your
project
with
other
projects
to
try
and
grow
your
contributor
base,
especially
if
the
topic
or
you
know
the
problem
that
your
project
is
trying
to
solve,
happens
to
coincide
with.
You
know
some
of
the
other
ones.
A
A
Sure
so,
for
the
recording,
the
question
is:
can
you
talk
about
the
relationship
between
the
technical
oversight
committee,
the
technical
advisory
groups
and
how
projects
interface
and
what
they
can
expect
as
part
of
your
work
with
them?
So
we've
got
seven
different
tags.
Those
tags
report
up
into
the
toc
they
each
have
a
liaison
like
one
named
person
from
the
toc
is
the
person
that,
like
is
like
more
or
less
responsible
for
the
care
and
feeding
of
that
tag,
and
usually
it's
someone
that
has
knowledge
or
interest
or
expertise
in
that
particular
area.
A
So
that's
kind
of
like
the
the
direct
lines
of
like
how
they
actually
work
from
there.
The
project
relationship
is
usually
like,
subject
specific
so
like
app
delivery
tag,
app
delivery
which
meets
on
wednesdays
8
a.m.
Pacific
comes
by
like
there's
a
huge
variety
of
projects
that
report
back
into
them.
Projects
can
come
by
and
do
presentations
for
the
tag
to
be
able
to
get
an
idea
of
what
things
should
we
improve?
A
That's
our
area
for
well
someone's
really
interested
in
being
a
part
of
the
community
and
they're,
maybe
not
attached
to
a
project
directly,
but
a
tag
might
be
a
really
good
fit
and
they
can
be
unlike
maintaining
a
project
which
can
be
a
lot
of
work.
A
tag
can
support
pretty
limited
amounts
of
volunteer
time
and
also
lots
of
volunteer
time.
It
really
depends
on
your
own
kind
of
availability.
For
that,
what
have
I
missed?.
A
So
from
the
sandbox
project,
we've
tried
to
be
able
to
limit
it
down
to
just
like
a
really
lightweight
annual
review,
and
it's
really
just
it's
a
series
of
questions
about
like
hey
how
you
doing
in
there.
I'm
paraphrasing
there's,
there's
a
whole
template
for
this
hey.
How
are
things
what
things
are
you
working
on?
What
things
do
you
wish
you
had
more
time
for
because
that's
always
the
case,
and
what
can
we
do
to
help
and
we've
now
changed
the
process
within
the
technical
oversight
committee?
A
To
have
this
be
a
public
and
open
meeting?
Each
project
gets
one
slide
and
they
there's
a
technical
oversight
sponsor
just
for
that.
One
meeting
who
spent
time
being
able
to
look
at
the
project
and
kind
of
give
them
some
recommendations
on
where
to
be
able
to
grow,
because
the
idea
about
being
in
sandbox
is
that
you're
trying
to
grow
the
community
and
you're
trying
to
be
able
to
expand
things
out.
So
that's
where
you
can
expect
from
a
sandbox
piece
for
incubating
and
graduating.
A
C
D
C
Hence
why
kind
of
the
tags
and
the
like
the
toc
and
stuff
is,
is
appealing
because
I,
like
obviously
would
have
lots
of
feedback
and
and
things
that,
like
I
want
to
see
the
community
thrive
so,
for
instance,
like
testing
like
working
with
a
lot
of
these
projects
and
then
testing
like
say
like
using
link,
linkered
or
something
like
writing
envoy,
like
scripts
and
stuff
and
then
being
able
to
like
test
those
in
a
reliable
way.
That's
gonna
be
actually
indicative
of
their
performance
or
whatever.
I'm
guessing.
B
Okay,
so
the
cncf
has
a
couple
different
ways
for
you
to
get.
Oh
yeah
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Sorry,
the
cncf
has
a
couple
ways
to
try
and
enable
that,
in
terms
of
actually
helping
with
building
those
tests,
we
really
try
to
leave
that
up
to
the
project.
We
don't
want
to
be
very
hands-on.
There
is
certainly
people
within
the
community
and
maybe
even
within
tags
that
can
help.
With
that
I
will
say
I
don't
believe
there
is
actually
a
tag
specific
to
ci.
B
So
there's
there's
room
for
growth
yeah,
but
there
are
two
main
things
that
the
cncf
offers.
There's
the
cncf
community
cluster
quote:
unquote,
it
is
a
set
of
resources
provided
by
equinix
metal
and
pretty
much
anyone
related
to
a
project
can
apply
and
they
get
an
equinix
metal
account
and
go
to
town.
B
B
A
A
My
thinking-
and
this
is
this-
is
a
long
time
ago,
and
I'm
now
going
to
look
at
like
tim
pepper,
like
my
thinking,
is
that
went
more
back
into
kubernetes,
more
proper
and
being
like
a
tag
like
a
cncf
thing.
However,
the
answer
is,
we
probably
have
something
related
to
it,
just
because
I
can't
think
of
it
off
the
top
of
my
head
as
far
as
like
yes,
pop
quiz
doesn't
mean
we
don't
have
anything
so:
okay,
lisa,
I'm
gonna,
pause
and
see
if
we've
got
any
online
questions.
E
Hello,
I'm
curious.
Does
the
wood
if
the
cncf
has
any
recommendations
or
resources
to
help
manage
you
talked
about
if
you
needed,
like
equinix
metal
they'll,
give
you
credentials
shared
credential
resources
like
how
would
a
project
maintain
passing
those
around?
Is
that
on
them
to
do
it?
Is
there
recommendations
or
guidance
there.
B
I
can
attempt
to
provide
an
answer
and
then
amy
may
may
slap
me
okay.
So
normally,
when
you
would
make
this
request,
we
would
send
you
an
invite
you're,
actually,
the
one
that
already
sets
up
those
credentials
so
we're
not
necessarily
passing
credentials
to
you
via
an
email
and
then
the
project
has
to
do
its
thing.
B
Usually
it
is
give
us
the
emails
of
the
accounts
of
the
maintainers
that
you
would
like
if
they
are
not
already
in
there's
a
giant
csv
file
called
maintainers.csv,
which
is
pop,
which
is
public,
so
you
would
just
say
yes,
I
just
want
my
maintainers
of
the
project.
We
would
invite
all
of
them
and
then
it's
on
those
maintainers
to
handle
those
credentials.
A
So
separately,
there
is
a
service
that
offers
free
use.
It's
one
password,
I
believe,
yeah
one
password
yeah
one
password
does
actually
have
a
program
for
just
any
open
source
project
to
be
able
to
come,
yeah
right
yeah,
you
don't
have
to
be
part
of
the
cncf
to
be
able
to
use
it,
but
that's
one
of
our
recommended
solutions,
because
obviously
this
is
a
challenging
problem.
You
want
to
be
able
to
have
like
passwords
in
a
safe-ish
way,
but
also
in
a
shared
way,
and
that's
one
of
our
solutions
see.
F
So
we're
all
of
our
projects
are
starting
to
grow
up.
You've
described
the
the
flow
towards
graduation.
We
have
more
and
more
projects
coming
back
in
the
day
it
used
to
be
like
hey
chat
with
amy.
She
can
help
you
out.
Are
there
tips
and
tricks
tips
and
tricks
pitfalls
that
you
would
recommend
now
that
we're
sort
of
growing
up
into
having
a
ticket
based
system?
How
do
we
give
a
good
formed
request
to
you.
A
No,
that's
a
really
good
question
because
in
large
part,
when
I
joined
there
were
maybe
like
42
projects
and
the
level
of
service
that
we
provide
hasn't
changed.
The
method
by
which
we
actually
try
to
be
able
to
take
those
requests
has
started
to
be
a
little
bit
more
focused.
We
have
a
jira
service
desk.
That
service
desk
is
our
preferred
method
for
being
able
to
get
things
because
it
takes
it
out
of
my
individual
email
box
and
puts
it
into
several
other
people's
intel
boxes,
which
is
highly
desirable.
A
Your
question
was
what
is
a
well-formed
request
and
my
well-formed
answer
is
anything
that's
in
service?
That's
enough
for
us
to
be
able
to
understand
what
it
is
that
you're
asking
and
giving
us
a
chance
to
be
able
like.
Oh,
I
think
I
know
what
the
give
me
a
little
bit
more
detail
in
here.
I'm
not
sure
if
I
understand
so,
that's
really
our
preferred
method,
but
yeah
yeah.
B
Also
within
service
desk,
there
are
certain
categories
for
tickets,
so,
like
legal,
usually
dealing
with
trademarks
and
whatnot.
I
t
support
if
a
domain
name
needs
to
change
and
like
that,
just
knowing
where
that
ticket
should
fall
into
there,
also
helps
because
chances
are
something
legal
specific
is
pretty
much
going
to
go
right
to
amy.
B
Another
thing
that
we
are
working
on
is:
there
are
still
certain
processes
in
documentation
that
say,
ping
amy
and
not,
and
maybe
you
know,
try
and
ping.
This
doesn't
exist
yet
projects
at
cncf.io
in
order
for
it
to
you
know,
go
to
this
group
mailbox
that
everyone
that's
working
on
projects
can
do
so
any
request
is
a
well-formed
request
as
long
as
it's
not
help.
A
That
would
be
fine,
too
help
with
and
then
like
being
willing
to
be
able
to
come
work
with
us
on
that.
But
one
of
the
other
things
that's
coming
up
around
like
how
to
be
able
to
do
requests
is
we'll
also
help
out
with
white
papers.
So
if
a
project
wants
to
be
able
to
do
like
a
case
study
or
a
white
paper,
or
something
and
yeah,
okay,
we've
hit
22
minutes.
So
we
are
like
well
on
time
excellent.
We're
willing
to
be
able
to
help
projects
with
like.
A
C
B
And
and
security
audits,
as
as
you
know,
in
kubernetes
kubernetes
has
had
security
audits.
Etsy
has
had
security
audits,
that's
another
thing
that
projects
can
come
and
request
of
us
and
we
can
kick
those
things
off.
So
it's
just
super
helpful,
pretty
much
anything
that
you
have
a
request
for
for
your
project.
If
you're
already
accepted,
please
let
us
know
we're
gonna
do
our
best
to
try
and
make
it
happen
all
right.
You
first,
then
you,
then
you
sorry,
it's
just
in
the
order.
I
saw.
A
So
as
a
sandbox
project,
you're
more
likely
to
benefit
from
being
able
to
work
with
tag
security
than
trying
to
be
able
to
get
like
a
full-blown
security
audit.
So
what
we
will
do
as
a
sandbox
project
come
in
is
try
to
be
able
to
match
the
level
of
effort
with
something
that
will
benefit.
You
like
pretty
quickly
so
like
being
able
to
do
like
a
docs
assessment
for
a
sandbox
project
rather
than
like
a
whole
like
here's
all
the
things
you
should
be
doing.
A
What
we
will
usually
try
to
do
is
to
be
able,
because
sandbox
is
meant
to
be
a
growing
place
to
be
able
to
like.
Oh,
we
want
to
be
able
to
show
value
and
momentum,
we'll
focus
on
being
able
to
do
the
smaller
pieces.
First
doesn't
mean
that
you
can't
request.
It
doesn't
mean
that,
like
we
can't
figure
out
a
way,
but
I
want
to
be
able
to
use
the
the
maximum
like
kind
of
like
resources
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
benefit.
A
H
H
Usually
is
what
they're
saying
and
in
one
case
so
far
it
was
already
very
popular
and,
and
we
did
we
end
up
adopting
them
and
and
they're
now
owned
by
the
sig
that
I'm
part
of
and-
and
we
had
another
one
more
recently,
that
the
initial
advice
was
just
to
keep
to
keep
growing
the
community
on
their
side.
But
how
do
we
evaluate
a
request
like
that
as
to
whether
or
not
they
should
join
be
adopted
by
a
sig
within
the
kubernetes
project
or
whether
it's
more
suitable
to
be
an
independent
project?.
A
So
this
is
interesting
because
kubernetes
as
a
project
in
and
of
itself
chooses
all
of
its
own
sub-projects,
like
all
by
itself,
they
are
more
than
willing
to
be
able
to
come.
Ask
for
guidance
from
staff
and
all
of
that,
but
but
typically
like
that.
I
would
consider
that
to
be
somewhat
out
of
scope
for
me
personally
to
be
able
to
say
like
well.
A
A
However,
I
think
the
sandbox
project
guidelines
are
still
helpful
to
be
able
to
know,
because
what
is
consistent
over
on
the
toc
side
may
also
be
helpful
for
being
able
to
have
the
zig
kubernetes
work
and-
and
I
think
the
biggest
thing
that
we
are
looking
at
right
now
is
really
momentum-
that
the
project
has
taken
off,
that
it's
actively
getting
and
been
merging
contributions,
rather
than
like.
Oh
yeah.
A
We
want
the
thing,
but
like
oh
actively,
being
able
to
work
on
being
able
to
say
here's
our
contributor
base,
here's
how
we're
growing
here's,
how
we
can
make
sure
that
people
that
are
contributing
will
come
and
stay
and
what
that
looks
like
for
the
longer
term.
So
I
answered
it
out
of
scope
and
then
in
scope.
So.
H
Yeah,
if
the
project
is
is
like
more
tangentially
related
to
kubernetes
and
sig
like
if
I
could
imagine
that
it
would
be
used
outside
the
scope
of
kubernetes,
for
example,
because
it's
more
to
do
with
containers
or
something
could
it
be
appropriate
for
me
to
recommend
them
approach
the
cncf
as
a
sandbox
project.
Instead.
B
A
And
I
have
he
has
opinions
and
I
have
data.
I
think
I
think
you
are
best
served
by
going
back
to
look
at
like
the
cncf
principles
that
were
written
down
they're
in
they're
in
the
the
toc
github
repo,
and
that
actually,
I
think,
would
help
answer
your
question
more
around,
because
what
I
heard
in
your
question
was
philosophy,
for
how
do
you
handle
like
what
the
the
path
forward
is,
and
I
think
the
mission
statement
is
going
to
be
much
more
helpful
because
we
don't
semantic.
A
D
D
I
wanted
to
add
a
little
bit
of
color
to
your
question.
One
of
the
expectations
along
the
progression
for
the
project
not
only
to
grow
in
traction,
but
maturity
is
to
follow
software
development,
best
practices
and
we
measured
that
against
a
tool
from
the
linux
foundation
called
the
core
infrastructure
best
practices
batch.
The
expectation
within
the
sandbox
period
is
for
the
project
to
attain
a
passing.
D
Versioning
is
one
of
the
criteria.
There's
many
different
areas
as
part
of
it.
I'd
encourage
you
to
check
it
out
from
when
you
when
you
enter
incubation,
the
requirements
get
slightly
more
stringent
and
it's
encouraged
to
pursue
silver
and
gold.
There's
only
a
few
projects
that
have
attained
these
but
yeah
awesome.
B
B
What?
What
can
they
do
in
order
to
improve
their
score?
We're
doing
things
like
judging
them
against
open
ssf
standards,
all
the
way
to
like
expected
governing
markdown
files.
Things
like
that.
Admittedly,
the
score
is
kind
of
you
know.
Arbitrary,
like
a
is
75
to
100
b,
is
50
to
75
right,
but
it
ignoring
the
score.
It
does
provide
a
very
good
checklist
that
projects
of
all
maturity
level
can
use
in
order
to
kind
of
figure
out
what
they
need
to.
B
So,
by
default
any
project
that
gets
accepted,
they
will
get
their
own
mailing
list
and
they
can
request
pretty
much
as
many
as
they
want
from
us
and
then
on
top
of
that.
Yes,
in
terms
of
like
meeting
resources,
zoom
accounts,
there's
the
community.cncf.io,
that's
also
kind
of
an
event
platform
and
a
meeting
platform
and
there's
even
more
getting
rolled
out
and
that's
just
like
it
doesn't
matter
what
level
project
you're
at
you.
You
get
access
to.
All
of
that.
B
Yes,
that
that
is
also
in
there.
Oh
thank
you.
What
about
things
like
private
mailing
emails
and
security
lists,
and
essentially
an
area
for
privileged
information
to
be
shared?
Those
mailing
lists
do
have
settings
and
pretty
much.
Every
project
has
something
like
cncf
hyphen
project,
hyphen,
priv
or
hyphen
security.
B
Those
only
go
to
the
people
that
are
in
that
maintainer
csv
file
that
I
was
talking
about
and
even
then
again,
projects
can
request
specific
email
groups
for
very
specific
people,
not
even
in
the
maintainers.
It's
it's
very
fluid.
So
pretty
much.
If
you
have
a
request,
you
can
make
it
and
it's
five
minutes
boom.
You
have
an
email.
Is
that
good
sure.
B
Service
desk,
if
you
have
access
to
service
desk
or
one
of
the
maintainers
of
the
project,
has
access
to
service
desk.
You
can
create
a
ticket
just
specify
which
project
you're
looking
you're
from
what
mailing
list
you
want
and
who
you
want
on
it
like
a
proposed
name
and
then
again
it's
pretty
easy
for
us
to
cut
a
new
mailing
list
and
then
go
to
town.
It's
all
part
of
lists.cncf.io
nick
did
you
have
one?
I'm
gonna
put
a.
G
All
right,
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
yeah
contour
is
an
incubating
project.
We've
got
like
a
distributors
list
and
a
couple
of
other
and
a
couple
of
other
lists
for
that
sort
of
thing.
The
distributors
list
is
for
telling
people
who
do
stuff
that
uses
contour.
If
we
have
a
cv
or
something
like
that,
so
yeah,
you
can
absolutely
use
them
for
like
more
private
kind
of
stuff.
A
C
This
is
the
normal
stuff.
I
guess
beyond.
That
is
the
amongst,
like
the
tag
and
toc
community
and
stuff,
there's,
obviously
a
lot
of
people
who
are
contributing
from
various
different
companies
and
things,
I
guess
as
you
as
sort
of
permanent
people
of
cncf,
do
you
like
check
in
with
people
making
sure,
like
I
mean
burnout,
there's
literally
a
talk,
I
think
going
on
right
now
about
burnout.
Do
you
like
checking
with
people?
Do
you
have
like
processes
and
stuff
like
that?
Or
is
it
pretty
fluid
or.
A
So
I
think
I
think
the
question
that
I
heard
in
that
was:
how
do
you
keep
yourself
sane
with
all
of
these
things
running
around?
Is
that
that's
a
fair
like
yeah?
In
large
part,
we?
We
are
a
very
supportive
team,
you're
actually
missing
the
third
member
of
our
tribe,
ihor
e
hor
was
working
out
of
ukraine
up
until
february
and
yeah.
So
in
large
part,
we
have
a
really
supportive
team.
That
is
really
good
about
being
able
to
say
all
right.
A
A
So
we
we
have
a
pretty
good
understanding
of
like
the
ebbs
and
flows
around
that
internally
externally,
like
the
toc
meetings,
I'm
on
them
every
week
we
get
like
a
chance
to
be
able
to
get
feedback
from
what's
working
out
in
the
community.
What
things
we
need
to
be
able
to
improve!
We
try
to
be
able
to
get
to
most
of
the
tag
meetings,
but
it's
we're
working
on
scaling.
We're
working
on
scaling.
B
I
came
from
being
a
kubernetes
contributor,
first,
a
completely
independent
one.
I
worked
at
the
university
of
michigan
and
they
didn't
really
support
my
open
source
contributions
at
first
then
they
did,
but
still
I
had
a
day
job
and
that's
kind
of
how
my
mentality
has
always
been
until
I
joined
the
ncf.
I
already
was
like
in
the
mode
of
trying
to
prevent
burnout
and
checking
in
with
other
people
so
like.
B
It
is
not
uncommon
for
me
to
message
like
one
or
two
people
a
week
and
be
like
how's
it
going
you
doing
all
right
or
if
you
know
something
crazy
is
happening
in
the
community.
Just
pulling
a
few
people
into
like
you
know
a
slack
or
discord
chat
and
be
like
all
right.
Does
anyone
need
to
vent
so
like
that's
kind
of
how
we
keep
each
other
sane
like
community
members,
so.
I
Because
I
do
have
a
day
job
and
I
am
a
cncf
ambassador
and
I've
never
worked
for
the
cnc,
and
I
think
the
part
of
your
question
that
I
heard
was
when
you
don't
work
for
the
cncf.
You
know.
How
do
you
manage
that,
and
I
want
to
say
you
know.
Amy
and
er
have
been
incredibly
supportive
with
the
ambassador
program.
I
There
are
monthly
check-ins
with
us
and
then
we
check
in
with
our
communities
and
it's
it's
just
been
a
great
resource
for
us,
so
definitely
leverage
these
folks
who
are
you
know,
focused
on
the
community
and
the
cncf
and
they're
incredible.
I
mean
like
when
I
slack
amy.
I
get
a
response
like
so
fast.
It's
ridiculous.
I
don't
know
how
you
do
it,
but
they're,
incredibly,
responsive
and
they're,
just
really
warm
and
great
people
that
really
really
care
about
the
community.